date:20080906

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/5gsrzx
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hey, it's not JUST a sustainable living center, it's the 
> WORLD'S "most 
> > > advanced" sustainable living center.
> > > 
> > > Don't these clowns see that when they use superlatives like this 
> that 
> > > they are destroying any little credibility that they have left?
> > >
> > 
> > Unless, of cousre, it happens to be true...
> > 
> > 
> > Lawson
> >
> 
> Well, then Lawson, if it's true then those who built it won't have to 
> be the ones shouting that claim from the rooftops.  They can have 
> independent experts come in and do the shouting for them.
>


Quite so, but if they don't invite them in, who will ever know?


lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Superlative University of Management

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
wrote:
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/5gsrzx
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Hey, it's not JUST a sustainable living center, it's the 
WORLD'S "most 
> > advanced" sustainable living center.
> > 
> > Don't these clowns see that when they use superlatives like this 
that 
> > they are destroying any little credibility that they have left?
> >
> 
> Unless, of cousre, it happens to be true...
> 
> 
> Lawson
>

Well, then Lawson, if it's true then those who built it won't have to 
be the ones shouting that claim from the rooftops.  They can have 
independent experts come in and do the shouting for them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > > >>
> > >  Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on,
> > >  it should be obvious, Judy.  The repugs, as
> > >  you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting
> > >  for McCain.
> > > >>
> > > >> This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least,
> > > >> like it or not.
> > > >
> > > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many
> > > > times, that that's not the case.
> > > >
> > > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit
> > > > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about
> > > > where I stand?
> > > 
> > > Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't
> > > you just not bother responding?  What difference does
> > > it make what I think?
> > 
> > Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal,
> > where people who don't know me might think you're
> > actually telling the truth.
> > 
> > > I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue.
> > 
> > And I think you're in denial about how much you
> > suck as a human being.
> 
> P.S.: And how RLY RLY STOOOPID
> you are.
>

OK, I'm pretty sure that Judy's account has ben hacked.


Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > 
> > >> Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on,
> > >> it should be obvious, Judy.  The repugs, as
> > >> you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting
> > >> for McCain.
> > 
> > This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least,
> > like it or not.
> 
> And you know very well I've been explicit, many
> times, that that's not the case.
> 
> Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit
> from you. Are you accusing me of lying about
> where I stand?
>


*I* am accusing you of not being aware of where you stand, yourself.



Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Superlative University of Management

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/5gsrzx
> >
> 
> 
> Hey, it's not JUST a sustainable living center, it's the WORLD'S "most 
> advanced" sustainable living center.
> 
> Don't these clowns see that when they use superlatives like this that 
> they are destroying any little credibility that they have left?
>

Unless, of cousre, it happens to be true...


Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Greek analog computer

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > Fascinating video about an ancient Greek analog computer which could 
> predict
> > eclipses 1500 years ahead:
> > 
> > Check it out.
> > 
> > http://www.nature.com/nature/videoarchive/antikythera/
> >
> 
>  That was very interesting.  It makes one wonder: what else did the 
> Greeks know?  Where did they get the knowledge to make such a mechanism?
> 
> In astrology, the Greek and Hindu systems have some similarities.  For 
> example, both systems use the same 12 signs of the zodiac.  And, the 
> lords of these zodiac signs are the same.
> 
> So, it appears that these two systems either came from a common source, 
> or that the two systems borrowed from each other at one point in the 
> ancient past.
>

That entire culture in the region was really all just variations of the same
theme(s). There are interesting parallels between Plato's descriptions
of the "perfect forms" and the "flavors" of sidhis practice reported by TMers, 
for example, ,prompting MIU professors to speculate that the Platonic 
Mystery School  practiced yogic-like techniques at that time (or the Yogis
got their techniques from the Greeks, if you will).

Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: technologies for manifesting intentions

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan  wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> > ï¿½
> > Jai Guru Dev Maharishi
> > Susan
> >
> 
> 
> Is this something new in our TM culture since the passing of Maharishi?
> 
> That the phrase "Jai Guru Dev" has now morphed into "Jai Guru Dev 
> Maharishi"?
> 
> Please let me know as I am usually the last to know these things...
>

I wonder if she's even from Fairfield. Seems to me the ULTIMATE
desire manifestation thing is the TM-SIdhis (assuming they work of course)
and anyone who feels compelled to go talk to a Westerner with "new" 
technology rather than doing group TM and Yogic FLying is, well, a tad off...

...and if they ahve time to go play wither her new toys, they have time to 
engage in vigorous physical activity, or more Yogic Flying, depending on 
where the
balance should be in their lives.

Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Moore: Liberals, lay off Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Curtis wrote: 
> > That stuff about his associating with terrorists 
> > doesn't pass the smell test with me and demeaning 
> > his community organizing work is pathetic.  
> >
> From what I've read, Obama used to work for the
> terrorist Ayers. They both got a lot of money from
> the Anneneburg Foundation for a housing project.
> 
> Apparently you haven't been keeping up with the 
> news!
> 
> > Doing good is not bad.  Not by a long shot.
> > 
> But the housing project is now boarded up. What
> happened to all the money? Is this an example of
> the kind of community orgainizing you'd want for
> your neighborhood?
> 
> "Documents released Tuesday by the University of 
> Illinois at Chicago shed some light on Barack 
> Obama's relationship with William Ayers, a 
> founding member of the 1960s and 1970s radical 
> group the Weather Underground."
> 
> Read more:
> 
> 'Newly Released Documents Highlight Obama's 
> Relationship With Ayers'
> Fox News, Tuesday, August 26, 2008
> http://tinyurl.com/5bwee2
>

Just read the article. The smoking gun in your eyes is...?


L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The Republicans are actually telling the 
> > > truth of what they intend to 
> > > do in office.  In the economic front, 
> > > they say: we will reduce taxes 
> > > and increase national security.  
> > 
> > You've captured what has long struck me 
> > as an inborn conflict of the conservative 
> > agenda. People who stand for low taxes and 
> > a strong military are at odds with themselves. 
> > A strong military requires a big cash outlay - 
> > as much as 54% of the budget, by one measure:
> > 
> > http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm
> > 
> > Seems to me, if we're to have a strong military 
> > and low taxes, we'll need to borrow lots of money.
> >
> 
> 
> War spending was over 75% during some of the years of WWII but this 
> guy is stretching it.  The figures don't gel with other sources:
> 
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2007/tables.html
>

Military spending is both the budgeted AND emergency spending.


L.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher: You don't like Obama cuz he's smarter 'n you

2008-09-06 Thread new . morning

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > Full text:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Republicans, stop calling Obama elitist
> 
> 
> We wouldn't mind if Obama was just an elitist, Rick.
> 
> We mind because he is a Marxist elitist.

Worse -- he is responsible for all of the crop circles!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin


On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:39 PM, authfriend wrote:


Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't
you just not bother responding?  What difference does
it make what I think?


Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal,
where people who don't know me might think you're
actually telling the truth.


Heaven forbid...




I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue.


And I think you're in denial about how much you
suck as a human being.


And on that classy note, I'm outta here. :)

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Greek analog computer

2008-09-06 Thread Stu

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote:
> >
> > Fascinating video about an ancient Greek analog computer which could
> predict
> > eclipses 1500 years ahead:
> >
> > Check it out.
> >
> > http://www.nature.com/nature/videoarchive/antikythera/
> >
>
>  That was very interesting.  It makes one wonder: what else did the
> Greeks know?  Where did they get the knowledge to make such a
mechanism?
>
> In astrology, the Greek and Hindu systems have some similarities.  For
> example, both systems use the same 12 signs of the zodiac.  And, the
> lords of these zodiac signs are the same.
>
> So, it appears that these two systems either came from a common
source,
> or that the two systems borrowed from each other at one point in the
> ancient past.
>

There is much historical evidence indicating trade routes would have
allowed for communication between these cultures.  Readings of
Pythagoras reveal much in common with the Jains which go back to near
600 B.C.   The practice of non-violence, vegetarianism, a fascination
with the mathematical harmonies inherent in the cosmos.  This is
academic mainstream stuff and comes up in most ancient Greek philosophy
courses.  A google search will reveal more if your interested.  The
Teaching Company has tapes detailing some of this.

I really enjoy reading about ancient Greece.  Here was a subculture (not
all Greeks agreed) practicing democracy, questioning myths and looking
towards science at a time when most peoples were bowing to paternalistic
magical super beings, clinging to tribal doctrines, and promoting war.

s.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 

> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > >>
> >  Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on,
> >  it should be obvious, Judy.  The repugs, as
> >  you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting
> >  for McCain.
> > >>
> > >> This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least,
> > >> like it or not.
> > >
> > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many
> > > times, that that's not the case.
> > >
> > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit
> > > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about
> > > where I stand?
> > 
> > Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't
> > you just not bother responding?  What difference does
> > it make what I think?
> 
> Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal,
> where people who don't know me might think you're
> actually telling the truth.
> 
> > I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue.
> 
> And I think you're in denial about how much you
> suck as a human being.

P.S.: And how RLY RLY STOOOPID
you are.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote:
> >>
>  Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on,
>  it should be obvious, Judy.  The repugs, as
>  you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting
>  for McCain.
> >>
> >> This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least,
> >> like it or not.
> >
> > And you know very well I've been explicit, many
> > times, that that's not the case.
> >
> > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit
> > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about
> > where I stand?
> 
> Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't
> you just not bother responding?  What difference does
> it make what I think?

Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal,
where people who don't know me might think you're
actually telling the truth.

> I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue.

And I think you're in denial about how much you
suck as a human being.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin


On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote:


Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on,
it should be obvious, Judy.  The repugs, as
you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting
for McCain.


This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least,
like it or not.


And you know very well I've been explicit, many
times, that that's not the case.

Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit
from you. Are you accusing me of lying about
where I stand?


Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't
you just not bother responding?  What difference does
it make what I think?

I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> >> Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on,
> >> it should be obvious, Judy.  The repugs, as
> >> you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting
> >> for McCain.
> 
> This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least,
> like it or not.

And you know very well I've been explicit, many
times, that that's not the case.

Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit
from you. Are you accusing me of lying about
where I stand?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin


On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote:


Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on,
it should be obvious, Judy.  The repugs, as
you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting
for McCain.


This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least,
like it or not.

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now THAT is a "shotgun wedding"


On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:49 PM, authfriend wrote:


You are a thoroughly meanspirited, dishonest,
disgusting person.


Stop looking in the mirror already, Judy.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:40 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> Glad to see you finally agree. :)  Have fun on the dark side.
> >
> > Still waiting for an answer to my question, Sal.
> > What do you imagine to be the "dark side" that
> > I'm now allegedly on?
> >
> > I'm asking because last week you said this,
> > referring to Palin:
> >
> > > Judy and Shemp have really hitched themselves
> > > to a winner here.
> >
> > But you're well aware I don't support Palin; you
> > were lying. Is "dark side" intended to suggest
> > the same lie, just without being specific?
> 
> Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on,
> it should be obvious, Judy.  The repugs, as
> you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting
> for McCain.

Right, just as I thought, you were lying.

Why is it you can't seem to disagree with
people without lying about them?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now THAT is a "shotgun wedding"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:18 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> >>> ...In a widely quoted 2006 survey
> >>
> >> Notice the date, Judy?  2006
> >
> > Yes, Sal, I did "notice" the date. Did you think it
> > had some special astrological significance, perhaps?
> 
> LOL...

Translation: Sal was trying to suggest the date
cast some doubt on Palin's support for teaching
about contraception in schools, even though she
knew it had no significance in that regard.

> >>> [Palin] answered during her
> >>> gubernatorial campaign, Palin said she supported abstinence-
> >>> until-marriage programs. But weeks later, she proclaimed 
> >>> herself "pro-contraception"
> >>
> >> Ah, she was against contraception before she was for it.
> >> Got it.
> >
> > Nope, you missed it. Read it again, please,
> > including the parts you snipped.

Sal understandably doesn't want to read it again,
because it makes her look RLY STOOPID.
So I'll just repost what she snipped:

Palin's statements date to her 2006 gubernatorial run. In July of
that year, she completed a candidate questionnaire that asked, would
she support funding for abstinence-until-marriage programs instead
of "explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics and the
distribution of contraceptives in schools?"

Palin wrote, "Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my
support."

But in August of that year, Palin was asked during a KTOO radio
debate if "explicit" programs include those that discuss condoms.
Palin said no and called discussions of condoms "relatively benign."

"Explicit means explicit," she said. "No, I'm pro-contraception, and
I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it
in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah,
abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids.
I don't have a problem with that. That doesn't scare me, so it's
something I would support also."

> >>> and said condoms ought to be discussed in schools
> >>> alongside abstinence.
> >>>
> >>> "I'm pro-contraception...
> >>
> >> Evidently she forgot to tell her daughter.
> >
> > Right, nobody *ever* gets pregnant when a condom is
> > used. They're 100 percent effective, every time.
> 
> Ah, it's all the fault of that danged contraception they
> were using.
> 
> And the basis for this latest fantasy comes from...?

Let's see, now, you claim she "forgot to tell her
daughter" about condoms, assuming that's why she got
pregnant. I point out that people can get pregnant
even if they use condoms.

And I'm the one who's fantasizing?

> And whatever they may or may not have been using (and as
> far as I know there's no way to know) isn't premarital
> sex kind of a no-no to fundamentalists as well?  You're really
> saying that Palin is even more of a phony than she seems?  If
> so, I'm in complete agreement.

You are a thoroughly meanspirited, dishonest,
disgusting person.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin


On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:40 PM, authfriend wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


Glad to see you finally agree. :)  Have fun on the dark side.


Still waiting for an answer to my question, Sal.
What do you imagine to be the "dark side" that
I'm now allegedly on?


Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on,
it should be obvious, Judy.  The repugs, as
you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting
for McCain.

I didn't realize I needed to spell out something
so obvious.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Glad to see you finally agree. :)  Have fun on the dark side.

Still waiting for an answer to my question, Sal.
What do you imagine to be the "dark side" that
I'm now allegedly on?

I'm asking because last week you said this, 
referring to Palin:

> Judy and Shemp have really hitched themselves
> to a winner here.

But you're well aware I don't support Palin; you
were lying. Is "dark side" intended to suggest
the same lie, just without being specific?

Why is it that you can't seem to disagree with
people without lying about them?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now THAT is a "shotgun wedding"


On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:18 PM, authfriend wrote:


...In a widely quoted 2006 survey


Notice the date, Judy?  2006


Yes, Sal, I did "notice" the date. Did you think it
had some special astrological significance, perhaps?


LOL...



[Palin] answered during her
gubernatorial campaign, Palin said she supported abstinence-until-
marriage programs. But weeks later, she proclaimed herself "pro-
contraception"


Ah, she was against contraception before she was for it.
Got it.


Nope, you missed it. Read it again, please,
including the parts you snipped.


and said condoms ought to be discussed in schools
alongside abstinence.

"I'm pro-contraception...


Evidently she forgot to tell her daughter.


Right, nobody *ever* gets pregnant when a condom is
used. They're 100 percent effective, every time.


Ah, it's all the fault of that danged contraception they were using.

And the basis for this latest fantasy comes from...?

And whatever they may or may not have been using (and as
far as I know there's no way to know) isn't premarital
sex kind of a no-no to fundamentalists as well?  You're really
saying that Palin is even more of a phony than she seems?  If
so, I'm in complete agreement.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Moore: Liberals, lay off Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
>  wrote:

> > "Documents released Tuesday by the University of 
> > Illinois at Chicago shed some light on Barack 
> > Obama's relationship with William Ayers, a 
> > founding member of the 1960s and 1970s radical 
> > group the Weather Underground."
> > 
> The documents showed virtually no connection between obama and 
> ayers except both present at some boards meetings together.

You forgot their appearances together at several
panel discussions, one of them arranged by Michelle
Obama.

You also forgot that Ayers and his wife, former
Weather Underground member and fugitive Bernadine
Dohrn, hosted a fundraising event in their home
for Obama when he was running for state senate.

Yet in the debate in April in Philadelphia, when
asked about Ayers, Obama said:

"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor
of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received
some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange 
ideas from [sic] on a regular basis."

(Actually Ayers is a professor of education, not
of English. You'd think Obama would know that from
having worked with him on the Annenberg Challenge.)

As far as I'm concerned, the issue isn't that Obama
worked closely with Ayers or that Ayers and Dohrn
supported him for the Illinois senate. It's that 
Obama hasn't been straightforward about the
association.

[FairfieldLife] The Best Daily Show Episode Ever? - The Jed Report

2008-09-06 Thread Rick Archer

The Best Daily Show Episode Ever?

Maybe this isn't the best, but if not, it's right up there, delivering a
wonderful ride through the final night of the GOP convention:

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/the-best-daily-show-episode-ev.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now THAT is a "shotgun wedding"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:19 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  
wrote:
> > 
> >> And wouldn't you know it...
> >>
> >> "Gov. Palin is a strong proponent of teaching abstinence-only sex
> >> education to teenagers."
> >>
> >> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/gov-palin-
says.html
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > From the Los Angeles Times:
> >
> > Palin appears to disagree with McCain on sex education
> >
> > The Republican vice presidential candidate says students should be
> > taught about condoms. Her running mate -- and the party platform -
-
> > disagree.
> >
> > By Seema Mehta
> > Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
> >
> > September 6, 2008
> >
> > ...In a widely quoted 2006 survey
> 
> Notice the date, Judy?  2006

Yes, Sal, I did "notice" the date. Did you think it
had some special astrological significance, perhaps?

> > [Palin] answered during her
> > gubernatorial campaign, Palin said she supported abstinence-until-
> > marriage programs. But weeks later, she proclaimed herself "pro-
> > contraception"
> 
> Ah, she was against contraception before she was for it.
> Got it.

Nope, you missed it. Read it again, please,
including the parts you snipped.

> > and said condoms ought to be discussed in schools
> > alongside abstinence.
> >
> > "I'm pro-contraception...
> 
> Evidently she forgot to tell her daughter.

Right, nobody *ever* gets pregnant when a condom is
used. They're 100 percent effective, every time.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Moore: Liberals, lay off Palin

2008-09-06 Thread boo_lives

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Curtis wrote: 
> > That stuff about his associating with terrorists 
> > doesn't pass the smell test with me and demeaning 
> > his community organizing work is pathetic.  
> >
> From what I've read, Obama used to work for the
> terrorist Ayers. They both got a lot of money from
> the Anneneburg Foundation for a housing project.

Maybe you should read some facts.  Ayers has been on the board of the
annenburg foundation along with many other leading citizens of chicago
for many yrs.  Obama was on it for 3 yrs.  Maybe you could read up on
what exactly a board of directors is and does and you'd understand
obama never got any money from that foundation.  Ayers is a professor
and active in helping the poor, he's not under any criminal suspicion,
though he was a member of the weather underground.

> Apparently you haven't been keeping up with the 
> news!
> 
You reading chain emails from paid right wing assassins?

> > Doing good is not bad.  Not by a long shot.
> > 
> But the housing project is now boarded up. What
> happened to all the money? Is this an example of
> the kind of community orgainizing you'd want for
> your neighborhood?
> 
> "Documents released Tuesday by the University of 
> Illinois at Chicago shed some light on Barack 
> Obama's relationship with William Ayers, a 
> founding member of the 1960s and 1970s radical 
> group the Weather Underground."
> 
The documents showed virtually no connection between obama and ayers
except both present at some boards meetings together.

> Read more:
> 
> 'Newly Released Documents Highlight Obama's 
> Relationship With Ayers'
> Fox News, Tuesday, August 26, 2008
> http://tinyurl.com/5bwee2
>

[FairfieldLife] Ban guns? Heck, Britain should ban Equestrian

http://tinyurl.com/5tmrfs

[FairfieldLife] Saw a lawn sign for this candidate today in Phoenix

http://www.teamschmuck.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher: You don't like Obama cuz he's smarter 'n you

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Full text:
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Republicans, stop calling Obama elitist


We wouldn't mind if Obama was just an elitist, Rick.

We mind because he is a Marxist elitist.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin


On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:43 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:

On the same note, I was listening to one of those right-wing talk  
shows

the other day and they were commenting on how shocked and taken aback
the Democrats were as a result of Sarah Palin's appointment as VP.

The host, Hugh Hewitt, said that the Democrats were "regrouping in  
Mordor."



Regrouping?  Heck, that's where we live.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin Home Pregnancy Kit

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  From Real Time with Bill Maher
> 
> So easy to use, even a fundamentalist Christian could use it.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXz3cOV8A_w
>


Now, THAT is funny!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now THAT is a "shotgun wedding"


On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:19 PM, authfriend wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


And wouldn't you know it...

"Gov. Palin is a strong proponent of teaching abstinence-only sex
education to teenagers."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/gov-palin-says.html


Wrong.

From the Los Angeles Times:

Palin appears to disagree with McCain on sex education

The Republican vice presidential candidate says students should be
taught about condoms. Her running mate -- and the party platform --
disagree.

By Seema Mehta
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

September 6, 2008

...In a widely quoted 2006 survey


Notice the date, Judy?  2006


[Palin] answered during her
gubernatorial campaign, Palin said she supported abstinence-until-
marriage programs. But weeks later, she proclaimed herself "pro-
contraception"


Ah, she was against contraception before she was for it.
Got it.


and said condoms ought to be discussed in schools
alongside abstinence.

"I'm pro-contraception...


Evidently she forgot to tell her daughter.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]


> LOL.  There was also a Roman philosopher who said, "Life is short.  
> Let's have a drink."  They may be related.
>


"Grub first, then ethics" -- Bertolt Brecht

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

[snip]

 Have fun on the dark side.
> 
> Sal
>

On the same note, I was listening to one of those right-wing talk shows 
the other day and they were commenting on how shocked and taken aback 
the Democrats were as a result of Sarah Palin's appointment as VP.  

The host, Hugh Hewitt, said that the Democrats were "regrouping in 
Mordor."

[FairfieldLife] Superlative University of Management

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5gsrzx
>

Hey, it's not JUST a sustainable living center, it's the WORLD'S "most 
advanced" sustainable living center.

Don't these clowns see that when they use superlatives like this that 
they are destroying any little credibility that they have left?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Greek analog computer

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Fascinating video about an ancient Greek analog computer which could 
predict
> eclipses 1500 years ahead:
> 
> Check it out.
> 
> http://www.nature.com/nature/videoarchive/antikythera/
>

 That was very interesting.  It makes one wonder: what else did the 
Greeks know?  Where did they get the knowledge to make such a mechanism?

In astrology, the Greek and Hindu systems have some similarities.  For 
example, both systems use the same 12 signs of the zodiac.  And, the 
lords of these zodiac signs are the same.

So, it appears that these two systems either came from a common source, 
or that the two systems borrowed from each other at one point in the 
ancient past.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now THAT is a "shotgun wedding"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And wouldn't you know it...
> 
> "Gov. Palin is a strong proponent of teaching abstinence-only sex
> education to teenagers."
> 
> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/gov-palin-says.html

Wrong.

>From the Los Angeles Times:

Palin appears to disagree with McCain on sex education

The Republican vice presidential candidate says students should be 
taught about condoms. Her running mate -- and the party platform -- 
disagree.

By Seema Mehta
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

September 6, 2008

...In a widely quoted 2006 survey [Palin] answered during her 
gubernatorial campaign, Palin said she supported abstinence-until-
marriage programs. But weeks later, she proclaimed herself "pro-
contraception" and said condoms ought to be discussed in schools 
alongside abstinence.

"I'm pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at 
home should hear about it in other avenues," she said during a debate 
in Juneau

Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said the governor stands by her 2006 
statement, supporting sex education that covers both abstinence and 
contraception

Palin's statements date to her 2006 gubernatorial run. In July of 
that year, she completed a candidate questionnaire that asked, would 
she support funding for abstinence-until-marriage programs instead 
of "explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics and the 
distribution of contraceptives in schools?"

Palin wrote, "Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my 
support."

But in August of that year, Palin was asked during a KTOO radio 
debate if "explicit" programs include those that discuss condoms. 
Palin said no and called discussions of condoms "relatively benign."

"Explicit means explicit," she said. "No, I'm pro-contraception, and 
I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it 
in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah, 
abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. 
I don't have a problem with that. That doesn't scare me, so it's 
something I would support also."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-sexed6-
2008sep06,0,3119305.story

http://tinyurl.com/5nog8z

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[FairfieldLife] Re: technologies for manifesting intentions

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]
>  
> Jai Guru Dev Maharishi
> Susan
>

Is this something new in our TM culture since the passing of Maharishi?

That the phrase "Jai Guru Dev" has now morphed into "Jai Guru Dev 
Maharishi"?

Please let me know as I am usually the last to know these things...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Crop Circle reported Agust 16, Wiltshire

2008-09-06 Thread Peter

Dang, I thought we were not visible with our Harry Potter invisibility cloaks! 
Nabs, stop spilling the beans, please!


--- On Sat, 9/6/08, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Crop Circle reported Agust 16, Wiltshire
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 4:13 PM
> Another Crop Circle made by peter on heavy medication and
> som drunken 
> british lads:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/6j5j5w
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
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[FairfieldLife] Palin Home Pregnancy Kit

2008-09-06 Thread Vaj

 From Real Time with Bill Maher

So easy to use, even a fundamentalist Christian could use it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXz3cOV8A_w

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:07 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > Gee, I thought it was pretty clear from my
> > posts. My ideology hasn't changed, but the
> > Democratic Party is no longer in tune with
> > it.
> 
> You and Ronnie: "I didn't leave the Democratic Party,
> the Democratic Party left me."

No, as I said, I've left the Democratic Party.

Reagan, I believe, became a Republican, did he not?

> > The Dems took over Congress in 2006, but not
> > a damn thing has changed; they're still
> > kowtowing to the Republicans.
> 
> And as as I recall, Judy, when Barry pointed  out to you
> that that seemed like what they were gearing up to do,
> and then I did as well, you ridiculed us and basically said
> that all they needed was time.

Nope, you recall incorrectly. What I pointed
out repeatedly was that the newly Democratic
Congress was *in a position* to turn things
around and that we needed to give them a little
time before we could determine whether they
were going to or not. If I ridiculed you--and
I don't believe I did--it would have been for
proclaiming something you had no basis for 
being so certain about.

You might want to check out post #123015. Your
fave Michael Moore was highly optimistic--more
so than I was--about what Congress would
accomplish.

> Glad to see you finally agree. :)  Have fun on the dark side.

Just out of curiosity, Sal, what is it in your
fevered imagination that you think of as "the
dark side" that I'm supposedly now on?

I ask because you've lied so often about where I
stand; I'm interested to know if you're doing it
again.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher: You don't like Obama cuz he's smarter 'n you

2008-09-06 Thread Rick Archer

Full text:

 


Republicans, stop calling Obama elitist


Because the real reason you don't like him is that he's smarter than you.

By Bill Maher

Sept. 5, 2008 | New Rule: Republicans need to stop saying Barack Obama is an
elitist, or looks down on rural people, and just admit you don't like him
because of something he can't help, something that's a result of the way he
was born. Admit it, you're not voting for him because he's smarter than you.


In her acceptance speech, Gov. Sarah Palin accused Obama of using his run
for the White House as a "journey of personal discovery" -- this from the
lady who just spent 10 minutes of her speech introducing her family --
Track, Trig, Bristol, Piper -- for a minute there I thought she was calling
in an airstrike. 

Karl Rove described Obama as "the guy at the country club with the beautiful
date, holding a martini, and making snide comments about everyone who passes
by." Unlike George Bush, who's the guy at the country club who makes snide
comments, and then passes out. Now this characterization, of course, was
something Mr. Rove just completely pulled out of his bulbous, gelatinous
ass, but remember this is America, a land where people believe anything they
hear. One of McCain's ads casts Obama as "the one," implying he thinks he's
the Messiah. Good, maybe he can raise McCain from the dead. 

It doesn't matter to Karl Rove that his country club characterization is
fictitious, it's the role that Obama must play if the party of plutocrats is
going to win over the little guy. Over and over at this convention we heard
about the new put-upon victim in our society, the person in America, like
Sarah Palin, who's constantly mocked because they're from a ... small town!
Governor Yup Yup's got 'em all riled up about being disrespected. 

Barack Obama can't help it if he's a magna cum laude Harvard grad and you're
a Wal-Mart shopper who resurfaces driveways with your brother-in-law.
Americans are so narcissistic that our candidates have to be just like us.
That's why George Bush is president. And that's where the McCain camp gets
its campaign strategy: Paint Obama as cocky and arrogant and wait for
America to vote him off, like the black guy in every reality show. A black
president? Half of Pennsylvania isn't ready for black quarterbacks. Forget
Obama, they think Will Smith needs to be taken down a peg. 

And finally: As for "country first," you know who's putting country first? I
am, by supporting Obama, because a victory this fall for the
McCain-Mooseburger ticket would make my job in the next four years very,
very easy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher: You don't like Obama cuz he's smarter 'n you

2008-09-06 Thread sgrayatlarge

-That's why Obama chose Biden, as an intellectual counter weight.
Smart move



-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> "Barack Obama can't help it if he's a magna cum laude Harvard grad 
and 
> you're a Wal-Mart shopper who resurfaces driveways with your 
brother-in-
> law. Americans are so narcissistic that our candidates have to be 
just 
> like us. That's why George Bush is president. And that's where the 
> McCain camp gets its campaign strategy: Paint Obama as cocky and 
> arrogant and wait for America to vote him off, like the black guy 
in 
> every reality show. A black president? Half of Pennsylvania isn't 
ready 
> for black quarterbacks. Forget Obama, they think Will Smith needs 
to be 
> taken down a peg. 
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/6h75l6
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism


On Sep 6, 2008, at 3:54 PM, John wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


On Sep 6, 2008, at 3:16 PM, do.rflex wrote:


"People react to fear, not love; they don't teach that in Sunday
School, but it's true."

-Richard M. Nixon


Well, I'm not sure he was wrong--people *react* to fear,
while they respond to love.  Corny but true.

Or, as a famous philosopher put it, "You attract more
flies with honey than vinegar."

Sal



LOL.  There was also a Roman philosopher who said, "Life is short.   
Let's have a drink."  They may be related.


Are you sure that wasn't George Bush in one of his
more lucid moments?

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin


On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:07 PM, authfriend wrote:


Gee, I thought it was pretty clear from my
posts. My ideology hasn't changed, but the
Democratic Party is no longer in tune with
it.


You and Ronnie: "I didn't leave the Democratic Party,
the Democratic Party left me."


The Dems took over Congress in 2006, but not
a damn thing has changed; they're still
kowtowing to the Republicans.


And as as I recall, Judy, when Barry pointed  out to you
that that seemed like what they were gearing up to do,
and then I did as well, you ridiculed us and basically said
that all they needed was time.

Glad to see you finally agree. :)  Have fun on the dark side.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher: You don't like Obama cuz he's smarter 'n you

2008-09-06 Thread sgrayatlarge

Whaddever you say Billy Boy

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> "Barack Obama can't help it if he's a magna cum laude Harvard grad 
and 
> you're a Wal-Mart shopper who resurfaces driveways with your 
brother-in-
> law. Americans are so narcissistic that our candidates have to be 
just 
> like us. That's why George Bush is president. And that's where the 
> McCain camp gets its campaign strategy: Paint Obama as cocky and 
> arrogant and wait for America to vote him off, like the black guy 
in 
> every reality show. A black president? Half of Pennsylvania isn't 
ready 
> for black quarterbacks. Forget Obama, they think Will Smith needs 
to be 
> taken down a peg. 
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/6h75l6
>

[FairfieldLife] MUM's Sustainable Living Center

2008-09-06 Thread bob_brigante

http://tinyurl.com/5gsrzx

[FairfieldLife] America's Greenest Schools: MUM's supergreen bldg

2008-09-06 Thread bob_brigante

http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=211611

[FairfieldLife] Bill Maher: You don't like Obama cuz he's smarter 'n you

2008-09-06 Thread bob_brigante

"Barack Obama can't help it if he's a magna cum laude Harvard grad and 
you're a Wal-Mart shopper who resurfaces driveways with your brother-in-
law. Americans are so narcissistic that our candidates have to be just 
like us. That's why George Bush is president. And that's where the 
McCain camp gets its campaign strategy: Paint Obama as cocky and 
arrogant and wait for America to vote him off, like the black guy in 
every reality show. A black president? Half of Pennsylvania isn't ready 
for black quarterbacks. Forget Obama, they think Will Smith needs to be 
taken down a peg. 

http://tinyurl.com/6h75l6

[FairfieldLife] Ancient Greek analog computer

2008-09-06 Thread Rick Archer

Fascinating video about an ancient Greek analog computer which could predict
eclipses 1500 years ahead:

Check it out.

http://www.nature.com/nature/videoarchive/antikythera/

[FairfieldLife] Tropic Thunder-Go See

Don't know it's been discussed here, but just saw Tropic Thunder. 
with my 12yr. old. Sounds strange, but the 12yr. old is somehow more 
tuned in to that language and references than my 15yr. old.  Lot of f-
words and sexual references.  I wasn't quite expecting that.  
(thinking of the 12yr. old here) Tom Cruise was excellent.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

The article I read was in Friday's NYT, the WeekendArts section, in 
an art review titled, "Mr. Natural Goes the the Museum"  You will 
enjoy it!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hey, did you notice the Crumbster, or an exhibit about his work 
got 
> > a good write up in the NYT yesterday.
> 
> No. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart
> for bringing it to my attention.
> 
> 
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/robert_c
rumb/index.html
> 
> or 
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/6hjwaa
> 
> I really love Robert. He is one of the most sincere,
> straightforward, honest people it has ever been my
> good fortune to meet. You just want to hug him, 
> but you don't, because you know it would make him 
> uncomfortable.
> 
> What those who have never really dived into his more
> esoteric (read "limited edition" and "expensive")
> work may not realize is the God's-honest-truthness
> of the lines from the article, "...art critic Robert 
> Hughes once called Mr. Crumb 'the Bruegel of the 20th 
> century.'" 
> 
> He's that good. I'm into art. I've seen the line
> drawings of Bruegel and all of the other Dutch
> Masters. Robert's in their league.
> 
> Also from the article: "Mr. Crumb's work presents a 
> vision of American life as a phantasmagoric gallery 
> of grotesques that is as gripping as it is harshly 
> funny."
> 
> Hey, I lived for a time as Robert's next-door neighbor.
> Life often IS a a phantasmagoric gallery of grotesques
> in Sauve. But it's also To Die For Funny, and I loved 
> that Robert, given all he's been through, could laugh 
> at it as much as he does. 
> 
> One of the first things that endeared me to R.Crumb,
> the first time I met him in Paris, is that he laughed 
> at my jokes. 
> 
> Really. 
> 
> I mean, he *really* laughed.
> 
> Get a couple of glasses of wine in me, and I tell jokes.
> It's just who I am, and what I do. And I *understand*
> that some of my friends put up with my jokes only because
> they really, really love me.
> 
> But, weirdo that I am, I really *get into* the telling
> of a good joke. I look at a joke as an artform, something
> that one practices but never masters. So I don't just
> tell jokes over and over, I *tune* them, and try to make
> them more *effective* jokes. 
> 
> This inner artistic quest has so far met with far too
> much stony non-laughter. Maybe it's my choice of jokes.
> 
> But Robert really *liked* my jokes. And when he did --
> and it would always take him a few seconds before he
> did, and realized that he did -- he would burst into
> the most Buddhalike laughter I have ever heard.
> 
> It was like someone who carried the weight of the
> world around on his shoulders for a living suddenly
> having a moment that made him laugh.
> 
> Contributing to that laughter, whenever I could, were
> the high points of my time in Sauve.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 3:16 PM, do.rflex wrote:
> 
> > "People react to fear, not love; they don't teach that in Sunday
> > School, but it's true."
> >
> > -Richard M. Nixon
> 
> Well, I'm not sure he was wrong--people *react* to fear,
> while they respond to love.  Corny but true.
> 
> Or, as a famous philosopher put it, "You attract more
> flies with honey than vinegar."
> 
> Sal

I think Barry's suggestion, like Nixon's, was that using fear to
manipulate people works quite well for politicians.

Here's another similar lovely quote that illustrates the meaning:

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on
a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of
it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common
people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that
matter in Germany. That is understood. 

But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the
policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along,
whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament,
or a communist dictatorship. 

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism
and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." 

~~  Hermann Goering

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

Sal Sunshine wrote:
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 3:16 PM, do.rflex wrote:
>
>> "People react to fear, not love; they don't teach that in Sunday
>> School, but it's true."
>>
>> -Richard M. Nixon
>
> Well, I'm not sure he was wrong--people *react* to fear,
> while they respond to love.  Corny but true.
>
> Or, as a famous philosopher put it, "You attract more
> flies with honey than vinegar."
>
> Sal
And people who have no fear of death don't react to fear at all.  If 
they seem fearful it is more likely that they are just annoyed.  I would 
say that extends to many people in this group who after years of 
meditation should no longer fear death.  IOW, to the fear mongers we are 
a dangerous force because we can't be controlled by them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

John wrote:
>
> Whether we like or not, the military industrial complex will always 
> be present in the American economy and politics.  The pragmatic 
> approach to the situation is to have a president who will reduce the 
> expenditures for the military.  This requires a president to have a 
> new vision as to where the direction of the American economy should 
> be headed.
>   
You're certainly idealistic.  The MIC has TOO MUCH POWER.  GE is a major 
part of the MIC and owns NBC and MSNBC.  The MIC as GE is an example of 
has too much control over the media.  They want eternal war for eternal 
profits.  Your attitude is just to give up and except it.  Not an 
enlightened approach at all.

We need the anti-trust laws back in force again and break up these big 
corporations and keep them from merging again.  The suit boys will whine 
but who the fuck are they anyway?  It's not their planet.  Fuck 'em!
> At the present time, the priority should be to reduce the US treasury 
> debt which is causing the economic problems we are having now.
>   
Indeed but lets not be too idealistic about it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 3:16 PM, do.rflex wrote:
> 
> > "People react to fear, not love; they don't teach that in Sunday
> > School, but it's true."
> >
> > -Richard M. Nixon
> 
> Well, I'm not sure he was wrong--people *react* to fear,
> while they respond to love.  Corny but true.
> 
> Or, as a famous philosopher put it, "You attract more
> flies with honey than vinegar."
> 
> Sal
>

LOL.  There was also a Roman philosopher who said, "Life is short.  
Let's have a drink."  They may be related.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism


On Sep 6, 2008, at 3:16 PM, do.rflex wrote:


"People react to fear, not love; they don't teach that in Sunday
School, but it's true."

-Richard M. Nixon


Well, I'm not sure he was wrong--people *react* to fear,
while they respond to love.  Corny but true.

Or, as a famous philosopher put it, "You attract more
flies with honey than vinegar."

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Barak will not be bullied!

Our next President, Barak Obama, will not 
be bullied by hockey moms, former PTA members, 
or small-town mayors like Sarah Palin!

"Whether Obama is revealing personal weakness 
or simply highlighting the historic weakness 
of his party, this is not talk that projects 
strength, especially in the current context 
- what is Obama saying, he won't be bullied 
by a 44 year old hockey mom?  Stand Tall, 
Barack - you won't be bullied by Sarah Palin!"

Read more: 

'Obama Will Not be Bullied!'
Posted by Tom Maguire
http://tinyurl.com/6chh37

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

   
> >
> > You've captured what has long struck me 
> > as an inborn conflict of the conservative 
> > agenda. People who stand for low taxes and 
> > a strong military are at odds with themselves. 
> > A strong military requires a big cash outlay - 
> > as much as 54% of the budget, by one measure:
> >
> > http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm
> >
> > Seems to me, if we're to have a strong military 
> > and low taxes, we'll need to borrow lots of money.
> I've always called the military industrial complex a corporate 
welfare 
> state.  It doesn't deserve to exist and covertly arranges for wars 
so 
> that it can sell its hardware.  If you are against welfare then you 
have 
> to be against it all the way around and that is also to be against 
> corporate welfare whether it be for the military industrial complex 
or 
> forcing our agricultural products on countries quite capable of 
growing 
> their own and in the process destroying their agricultural economy. 
> 
> Don't forget that Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial 
> complex and his fears about them have materialized.
>

Whether we like or not, the military industrial complex will always 
be present in the American economy and politics.  The pragmatic 
approach to the situation is to have a president who will reduce the 
expenditures for the military.  This requires a president to have a 
new vision as to where the direction of the American economy should 
be headed.

At the present time, the priority should be to reduce the US treasury 
debt which is causing the economic problems we are having now.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John wrote:
> > The Republicans are actually telling the truth of 
> > what they intend to do in office.  In the economic 
> > front, they say: we will reduce taxes and increase 
> > national security.  Thus, the USA has a deficit 
> > because the taxes were reduced and American troops 
> > are in Iraq and Afghanistan.
> > 
> > In effect, the Americans should think about what 
> > they're voting for in the next election.  
> >
> > One way or another, politicians are going to cost 
> > you money.
> > 
> Myabe so.
> 
> Do federal payroll taxes pay for the war Iraq and 
> Afghanistan? Obama apparently voted to cut off the
> funding for U.S. troops, but did he vote to cut any
> payroll taxes?

I don't know how Obama voted relating to payroll taxes.  But he is 
touting or tooting a new tune these days.  He is proposing to cut 
taxes, which sounds good to the American people.  He'll gain points 
with this one.

On the other hand, he is consistently opposed against the war in Iraq 
and is for continuing the US military presence in Afghanistan.  It 
appears that he is playing the right chord on this one too. 

>

[FairfieldLife] Crop Circle, Lockeridge, Wiltshire

Done by very drunk english lads in a couple of hours during thursday 
7'th August:

http://tinyurl.com/55kn2r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing beverage for ice found in Russia!

[FairfieldLife] Crop Circle, Cherhill, reported 7'th August

http://tinyurl.com/64rl93

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Moore: Liberals, lay off Palin

Richard J. Williams wrote:
>>>   
> Bhairitu wrote:
>   
>> In a much, much larger community that Sarah Palin 
>> was ever mayor of. Probably a community with more 
>> population than the whole state of Alaska. 
>>  
>> 
> Maybe so, but what was the result? There is rampant
> unemployment in Chicago, but in Achorage there is a 
> surplus of jobs. Why is it that the high unemployment
> is concentrated in all the 'blue' states, the ones 
> with the liberal governors and senators?
>   
Because nobody wants to live in cold, inhospitable Alaska.  Would you 
live there?  Why do you live in Texas (with it's high taxes)?  Everyone 
wants to live in places like California because of the weather.  They'd 
probably live in Mexico that has even better weather year around if we 
could get rid of the corruption there and it was part of the US.  Maybe 
a NAU isn't such a bad idea after but they wanted to spring it on the 
public because they knew the public would not support it.
>   
>> And after all how did 2006 go?   
>>
>> 
> >From what I've read, Obama was a community orgainizer
> in a small neighborhood in Chicago, most of whom used
> to go to church with Obama to listen to the Rev. 
> Wright. Apparently Obama sat next to Mr. Rezko. I
> wonder where Rezko is now?
>   
No, that is not the question I asked.  Again, how did 2006 go or to be 
even more clear the 2006 election?
>   
>> I suspect 2008 will go the same way.
>>
>> 
> Well, I guess they closed down the housing project
> Mr. Obama organized in Chicago, but the library up
> in Wasilla, Alaska is still open and serving the 
> public.
>   
Apparently with only Palin approved books or at least she attempted 
that.  Are you also a dominionist?

> Apparently Obama took up with the terrorist Bill 
> Ayers and relieved the Annenburg Foundation of 
> several million dollars. I wonder what happened to 
> all the money?
>   
Where is your evidence of this?
>   
>> Your party is over.
>>
>> 
> If Obama's idea of community orgainizing can't 
> produce anything better than a big new million 
> dollar house for himself and one for the Rev Wright, 
> then probably "your party is over"!
>   
A million dollar house isn't anything nowadays and a politician, even 
conservative ones, needs to live in a secure neighborhood.  This 
argument has little merit.  My bet as we move away from the Republican 
convention we'll see more of a surge in the polls for Obama and there is 
already a surge in Democratic Party voter registrations:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Democrats_post_big_gains_in_voter_0906.html

> "I don't doubt that Obama is saddened by his 
> mentor's conviction, but the rest of his statement 
> is from outer space. "This isn't the Tony Rezko 
> I knew." Deja vu, anyone? I could swear I've 
> heard it somewhere before. Sure enough--the 
> racist, anti-American Rev. Wright whom we've all 
> seen on video wasn't the Rev. Wright whom Obama 
> knew for 20 years, either. And the outrageously 
> bigoted Father Pfleger wasn't the Pfleger whom 
> Obama assiduously supported with earmarks--another 
> form of political corruption."
>
> Read more:
>
> 'The Most Wildly Inappropriate Statement Ever?'
> Posted by Posted by John Hinderaker:
> Powerline, June 4, 2008
> http://tinyurl.com/6jygm4
Mudslinging the popular sport of election years through history.   What 
else is new.  Why aren't you posting Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity too?

[FairfieldLife] technologies for manifesting intentions

2008-09-06 Thread Susan

Hi everyone, 
My name is Susan Sayler and I just joined this group recently. I have only been 
living in Fairfield since the Fourth of July, 2008. I am on the IA course, 
meditating in the dome 6 hours every day. 
 
I came here from San Diego where I was involved in a group that met regularly 
to support one another in the application of manifesting technologies (like in 
the Secret, What the Bleep, Intenders of the Highest Good, Clinton Swaine's 
Play to Win and etc.) 
 
I am looking for people who are willing to meet up once a week to form a core 
group here in Fairfield with the courage to manifest what you really want; such 
as in health, money, relationships or spiritual goals. It would be nice to have 
an afternoon group and an evening group and it would be great to have a pot 
luck once a month. 
 
There is no charge for this group.
 
I have all the materials needed, I just need committed, dedicated warm bodies 
that want to play chicken with the application of these laws of intention and 
manifestation.
 
 I would like to hold the first meeting on Friday night, September 19th at 7:30 
pm, in Revelations Bookstore, either upstairs or downstairs. Other meetings can 
be at my home, outdoors and other public places depending on the theme for that 
week.
 
If you are interested, you can email me back or call me at 
760 687-5911
 
Jai Guru Dev Maharishi
Susan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The Republicans are actually telling the 
> > > truth of what they intend to 
> > > do in office.  In the economic front, 
> > > they say: we will reduce taxes 
> > > and increase national security.  
> > 
> > You've captured what has long struck me 
> > as an inborn conflict of the conservative 
> > agenda. People who stand for low taxes and 
> > a strong military are at odds with themselves. 
> > A strong military requires a big cash outlay - 
> > as much as 54% of the budget, by one measure:
> > 
> > http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm
> > 
> > Seems to me, if we're to have a strong military 
> > and low taxes, we'll need to borrow lots of money.
> 
> Bingo!!!
> 
> Give this man a kewpie doll.
> 
> The issue -- as I see it -- on the level of
> energy, is FEAR vs. HOPE.
> 
> Those who try to sell (in their political
> agendas) a strong military are appealing to
> the Lesser Emotion of FEAR.


"People react to fear, not love; they don't teach that in Sunday
School, but it's true."

-Richard M. Nixon

[FairfieldLife] Crop Circle, Etchilhapmton Hill, 15'th August

For sure made by Christian fundamentalists on speed.

http://tinyurl.com/66j8c3

[FairfieldLife] Crop Circle reported Agust 16, Wiltshire

Another Crop Circle made by peter on heavy medication and som drunken 
british lads:

http://tinyurl.com/6j5j5w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > The Republicans are actually telling the 
> > truth of what they intend to 
> > do in office.  In the economic front, 
> > they say: we will reduce taxes 
> > and increase national security.  
> 
> You've captured what has long struck me 
> as an inborn conflict of the conservative 
> agenda. People who stand for low taxes and 
> a strong military are at odds with themselves. 
> A strong military requires a big cash outlay - 
> as much as 54% of the budget, by one measure:
> 
> http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm
> 
> Seems to me, if we're to have a strong military 
> and low taxes, we'll need to borrow lots of money.
>

Double Bingo

The USA is already several trillion dollars in debt.  We're living on 
borrowed time.  One way or another, the chickens will come home to 
roost.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From the looks of it, the Democrats are doing a Slick Willie
> strategy by trying to triangulate the middle of the road policy
> for the American electorate.  They're trying to get the 
> independents and Reagan Democrats to vote for the Obama program.

When have they *not* done this? The only way for
either party to win is to attract swing voters.

> To address the Hillary supporters, the Democrats are thinking of 
> asking prominent Democratic women, including Hillary, to pitch
> for the Democratic agenda.

"Thinking of asking"? That's what Hillary promised
to do after losing the primary and has been doing
ever since.

> On the other hand, the Republicans pulled a Sarah Palin to attract 
> the Hillary voters and independents into their camp.

Actually they picked Palin primarily to shore up
McCain's very shaky support with the base; he's
not conservative enough for many Republican voters.
Palin isn't very attractive to most Hillary
supporters given her stance on "women's issues,"
including abortion.

> In the end, the determining factors for the election would
> be the economy and the war.  Which candidate can solve these 
> problems?  He will be the winner.

I'm in agreement with Barry on this one. Whoever
tells the best story about solving these problems--
but primarily the economy--will win.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

Patrick Gillam wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> The Republicans are actually telling the 
>> truth of what they intend to 
>> do in office.  In the economic front, 
>> they say: we will reduce taxes 
>> and increase national security.  
>> 
>
> You've captured what has long struck me 
> as an inborn conflict of the conservative 
> agenda. People who stand for low taxes and 
> a strong military are at odds with themselves. 
> A strong military requires a big cash outlay - 
> as much as 54% of the budget, by one measure:
>
> http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm
>
> Seems to me, if we're to have a strong military 
> and low taxes, we'll need to borrow lots of money.
I've always called the military industrial complex a corporate welfare 
state.  It doesn't deserve to exist and covertly arranges for wars so 
that it can sell its hardware.  If you are against welfare then you have 
to be against it all the way around and that is also to be against 
corporate welfare whether it be for the military industrial complex or 
forcing our agricultural products on countries quite capable of growing 
their own and in the process destroying their agricultural economy. 

Don't forget that Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial 
complex and his fears about them have materialized.

[FairfieldLife] Former Bush White House aides to 'educate' Palin

Silly me - I thought she was *already* "fully qualified*

But tell me now that McCain/Palin isn't a continuation of Bush/Cheney

The McCain team has hastily assembled a team of former Bush White
House aides to tutor the vice-presidential candidate, Alaska Gov.
Sarah Palin, on foreign-policy issues, to write her speeches and to
begin preparing her for her all-important Oct. 2 debate against Sen.
Joe Biden.

Steve Biegun, who once served as the No. 3 National Security Council
official under Condoleezza Rice at the White House, has been hired as
chief foreign-policy adviser to the Alaska governor, campaign
officials told NEWSWEEK. [...]

Biegun is hardly the only Bushie to be tapped for Palin duty. Among
others:

-Matt Scully, a former Bush White House speechwriter who helped draft
some of the major foreign-policy addresses during the president's
first term, is working on Palin's acceptance speech to the convention
Wednesday night.

-Mark Wallace, a former lawyer for the Bush 2000 campaign who served
in a variety of administration jobs including chief counsel at the
Federal Emergency Management Agency and deputy ambassador to the
United Nations, has been put in charge of "prep" for the debate
against Biden.

-Wallace's wife, Nicolle Wallace, the former White House
communications director, has taken over the same job for Palin.

-Tucker Eskew, another senior Bush White House communications aide, is
serving as senior counselor to Palin's operation.

-Douglas Holtz-Eakin, the former chief economist at the Council of
Economic Advisers who has been serving as top economics guru for the
McCain campaign, has moved over to serve as Palin's chief
domestic-policy adviser.

The proliferation of former Bush White House aides in the Palin team
may strike some as ironicand could even provide some fodder for the
Democratsgiven the McCain camp's efforts to distance itself from the
unpopular president. [...]

~~NEWSWEEK
http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/02/bushies-come-to-palin-s-rescue.aspx

or, http://tinyurl.com/5a88s3

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam Hussein: feminist icon and liberator of women

2008-09-06 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Richard Williams 
> wrote:
> >
> > > > Houston we have a big F'n problem here.
> > > >
> > Judy wrote:
> > > If we spend all our energy deconstructing Sarah
> > > while neglecting to do the same for McCain,
> > > those who are moved to protest our treatment of
> > > her by voting for the Republican ticket won't have
> > > been given any reason *not* to.
> > >
> > Sarah Palin has more exuctive experience than Joe
> > Biden and she probably has better judgement as well.
> >
> > Biden voted *against* gulf war 1 and the U.S. won
> > the war. If we had listened to Joe Biden, Saddam
> > would be in control of Kuwait and probably Saudi
> > Arabia as well - Saddam would be the head of OPEC
> > by now.
>
>
> I agree with you, of course, Richard.
>
> But one thing we have to admit: if the mass-murdering freedom-
> violating dictator Saddam had, indeed, been left to his own devices
> and was, today, in control of both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, as you
> hypothesize above, 50% of the populations of both of those countries
> would be freer -- MUCH freer -- than they are today.
>
> I'm talking of course, about the women of those two countries.  For
> all his murderous faults, Saddam was for equality of the sexes and
> for the elimination of pretty much all those horrible things that
> middle eastern countries are known for vis a vis mistreating their
> women.
>
> This is a legitimate point to make because it is the Bush
> Administration that keeps reminding us -- and rightly so -- how much
> that they have done for the women of Afghanistan, freeing them from
> the misogynistic suppression of the Taliban.
>
> Well, folks, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
> Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and the Taliban are all pretty much equal-
> opportunity repressors of women...and Saddam would no doubt have made
> the lot of women much, much better in both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia,
> just as he did in Iraq.>>

Wow, Shemp, you're telling us what we have been telling you for years.
There was more freedom under Saddam than under the American regime
there.

Well done, you finally woke up. Too late for the hundreds of  thousands
children killed and mutilated, millions of people displaced, and all
resemblence of modern civilized society wiped off the face of the map by
the invasion. But hey, who cares if Iraq is now an ungovernable zone,
free for rapists and women-oppressors to roam, and a breeding zone for
American hating fanatics.

Saddam may have been an oppressor, but no-one else was able to control
that region and America is trillion in debt, while the Iraqi government
officials are holding on to an 80 billion surplus until the Americans
leave, then they will appropriate it for their own personal use.

Good job BushSheep.

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin


> I'm really liking your political analyses so far.
> They very different from the way I see things, but
> very interesting.
> 
> I guess my question is whether you really believe
> your last sentence.
> 
> I don't.
> 
> I've worked for far too many software companies 
> that really DID have the Better Mousetrap, and the
> world did NOT beat a path to their door.
> 
> I'm more of the opinion that the candidate who casts
> the most effective occult glammer about the economy
> and the war will be the winner.
> 
> Americans love to be wrapped. Politicians are occult
> wrappers. The best wrapper wins.
>

I agree with you on this one.  I believe Marshall McCluhan once said 
that the medium is the message, or maybe the massage.

Also, the movie starring Robert Redford about a presidential 
candidate [The Selling of a President(?)] may have addressed your 
point.  After being elected president, he asked his handlers at the 
end of the movie, "what I do now?".

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Moore: Liberals, lay off Palin

Curtis wrote: 
> That stuff about his associating with terrorists 
> doesn't pass the smell test with me and demeaning 
> his community organizing work is pathetic.  
>
>From what I've read, Obama used to work for the
terrorist Ayers. They both got a lot of money from
the Anneneburg Foundation for a housing project.

Apparently you haven't been keeping up with the 
news!

> Doing good is not bad.  Not by a long shot.
> 
But the housing project is now boarded up. What
happened to all the money? Is this an example of
the kind of community orgainizing you'd want for
your neighborhood?

"Documents released Tuesday by the University of 
Illinois at Chicago shed some light on Barack 
Obama's relationship with William Ayers, a 
founding member of the 1960s and 1970s radical 
group the Weather Underground."

Read more:

'Newly Released Documents Highlight Obama's 
Relationship With Ayers'
Fox News, Tuesday, August 26, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/5bwee2

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > The Republicans are actually telling the 
> > truth of what they intend to 
> > do in office.  In the economic front, 
> > they say: we will reduce taxes 
> > and increase national security.  
> 
> You've captured what has long struck me 
> as an inborn conflict of the conservative 
> agenda. People who stand for low taxes and 
> a strong military are at odds with themselves. 
> A strong military requires a big cash outlay - 
> as much as 54% of the budget, by one measure:
> 
> http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm
> 
> Seems to me, if we're to have a strong military 
> and low taxes, we'll need to borrow lots of money.

Bingo!!!

Give this man a kewpie doll.

The issue -- as I see it -- on the level of
energy, is FEAR vs. HOPE.

Those who try to sell (in their political
agendas) a strong military are appealing to
the Lesser Emotion of FEAR.

So far, people in America have been willing
to overlook the unfulfilled promise of low
taxes for the illusion a strong military. 
There is simply no question as to which of
these two goals is more important to them.

So Duh! If you want to win an election, which
do you appeal to?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > The Republicans are actually telling the 
> > truth of what they intend to 
> > do in office.  In the economic front, 
> > they say: we will reduce taxes 
> > and increase national security.  
> 
> You've captured what has long struck me 
> as an inborn conflict of the conservative 
> agenda. People who stand for low taxes and 
> a strong military are at odds with themselves. 
> A strong military requires a big cash outlay - 
> as much as 54% of the budget, by one measure:
> 
> http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm
> 
> Seems to me, if we're to have a strong military 
> and low taxes, we'll need to borrow lots of money.
>


War spending was over 75% during some of the years of WWII but this 
guy is stretching it.  The figures don't gel with other sources:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2007/tables.html

[FairfieldLife] Amazing ice in Stonehenge-like formation!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6ztg8h
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

John wrote:
> The Republicans are actually telling the truth of 
> what they intend to do in office.  In the economic 
> front, they say: we will reduce taxes and increase 
> national security.  Thus, the USA has a deficit 
> because the taxes were reduced and American troops 
> are in Iraq and Afghanistan.
> 
> In effect, the Americans should think about what 
> they're voting for in the next election.  
>
> One way or another, politicians are going to cost 
> you money.
> 
Myabe so.

Do federal payroll taxes pay for the war Iraq and 
Afghanistan? Obama apparently voted to cut off the
funding for U.S. troops, but did he vote to cut any
payroll taxes?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

2008-09-06 Thread Patrick Gillam

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Republicans are actually telling the 
> truth of what they intend to 
> do in office.  In the economic front, 
> they say: we will reduce taxes 
> and increase national security.  

You've captured what has long struck me 
as an inborn conflict of the conservative 
agenda. People who stand for low taxes and 
a strong military are at odds with themselves. 
A strong military requires a big cash outlay - 
as much as 54% of the budget, by one measure:

http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm

Seems to me, if we're to have a strong military 
and low taxes, we'll need to borrow lots of money.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Moore: Liberals, lay off Palin

> > You could cast another spoiler vote if you wanted 
> > to. Or, you could vote for a community organizer
> > who never even joined the PTA or fought in a war.
> >
Bhairitu wrote:
> In a much, much larger community that Sarah Palin 
> was ever mayor of. Probably a community with more 
> population than the whole state of Alaska. 
>  
Maybe so, but what was the result? There is rampant
unemployment in Chicago, but in Achorage there is a 
surplus of jobs. Why is it that the high unemployment
is concentrated in all the 'blue' states, the ones 
with the liberal governors and senators?

> And after all how did 2006 go?   
>
>From what I've read, Obama was a community orgainizer
in a small neighborhood in Chicago, most of whom used
to go to church with Obama to listen to the Rev. 
Wright. Apparently Obama sat next to Mr. Rezko. I
wonder where Rezko is now?

> I suspect 2008 will go the same way.
> 
Well, I guess they closed down the housing project
Mr. Obama organized in Chicago, but the library up
in Wasilla, Alaska is still open and serving the 
public.

Apparently Obama took up with the terrorist Bill 
Ayers and relieved the Annenburg Foundation of 
several million dollars. I wonder what happened to 
all the money?

> Your party is over.
>
If Obama's idea of community orgainizing can't 
produce anything better than a big new million 
dollar house for himself and one for the Rev Wright, 
then probably "your party is over"!

"I don't doubt that Obama is saddened by his 
mentor's conviction, but the rest of his statement 
is from outer space. "This isn't the Tony Rezko 
I knew." Deja vu, anyone? I could swear I've 
heard it somewhere before. Sure enough--the 
racist, anti-American Rev. Wright whom we've all 
seen on video wasn't the Rev. Wright whom Obama 
knew for 20 years, either. And the outrageously 
bigoted Father Pfleger wasn't the Pfleger whom 
Obama assiduously supported with earmarks--another 
form of political corruption."

Read more:

'The Most Wildly Inappropriate Statement Ever?'
Posted by Posted by John Hinderaker:
Powerline, June 4, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/6jygm4

[FairfieldLife] Strange Ice Formation in Russia

http://tinyurl.com/6ztg8h

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From the looks of it, the Democrats are doing a Slick Willie 
> strategy by trying to triangulate the middle of the road policy 
> for the American electorate.  They're trying to get the 
> independents and Reagan Democrats to vote for the Obama program.
> 
> To address the Hillary supporters, the Democrats are thinking of 
> asking prominent Democratic women, including Hillary, to pitch for 
> the Democratic agenda.
> 
> On the other hand, the Republicans pulled a Sarah Palin to attract 
> the Hillary voters and independents into their camp.
> 
> In the end, the determining factors for the election would be the 
> economy and the war. Which candidate can solve these problems? He 
> will be the winner.

I'm really liking your political analyses so far.
They very different from the way I see things, but
very interesting.

I guess my question is whether you really believe
your last sentence.

I don't.

I've worked for far too many software companies 
that really DID have the Better Mousetrap, and the
world did NOT beat a path to their door.

I'm more of the opinion that the candidate who casts
the most effective occult glammer about the economy
and the war will be the winner.

Americans love to be wrapped. Politicians are occult
wrappers. The best wrapper wins.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are the American people realy this dumb?

John wrote:
> Are the American people realy this dumb?
>
Aparently you are!

"I think that the surge has succeeded in ways 
that nobody anticipated," Obama said while 
refusing to retract his initial opposition 
to the surge. "I've already said it's 
succeeded beyond our wildest dreams."

Read more:

'Obama: Surge Succeeded Beyond `Wildest Dreams'
Fox News, Thursday, September 4, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/6edajx 

> http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/vastleft/depression.jpg
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey, did you notice the Crumbster, or an exhibit about his work got 
> a good write up in the NYT yesterday.

No. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart
for bringing it to my attention.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/robert_crumb/index.html

or 

http://tinyurl.com/6hjwaa

I really love Robert. He is one of the most sincere,
straightforward, honest people it has ever been my
good fortune to meet. You just want to hug him, 
but you don't, because you know it would make him 
uncomfortable.

What those who have never really dived into his more
esoteric (read "limited edition" and "expensive")
work may not realize is the God's-honest-truthness
of the lines from the article, "...art critic Robert 
Hughes once called Mr. Crumb 'the Bruegel of the 20th 
century.'" 

He's that good. I'm into art. I've seen the line
drawings of Bruegel and all of the other Dutch
Masters. Robert's in their league.

Also from the article: "Mr. Crumb's work presents a 
vision of American life as a phantasmagoric gallery 
of grotesques that is as gripping as it is harshly 
funny."

Hey, I lived for a time as Robert's next-door neighbor.
Life often IS a a phantasmagoric gallery of grotesques
in Sauve. But it's also To Die For Funny, and I loved 
that Robert, given all he's been through, could laugh 
at it as much as he does. 

One of the first things that endeared me to R.Crumb,
the first time I met him in Paris, is that he laughed 
at my jokes. 

Really. 

I mean, he *really* laughed.

Get a couple of glasses of wine in me, and I tell jokes.
It's just who I am, and what I do. And I *understand*
that some of my friends put up with my jokes only because
they really, really love me.

But, weirdo that I am, I really *get into* the telling
of a good joke. I look at a joke as an artform, something
that one practices but never masters. So I don't just
tell jokes over and over, I *tune* them, and try to make
them more *effective* jokes. 

This inner artistic quest has so far met with far too
much stony non-laughter. Maybe it's my choice of jokes.

But Robert really *liked* my jokes. And when he did --
and it would always take him a few seconds before he
did, and realized that he did -- he would burst into
the most Buddhalike laughter I have ever heard.

It was like someone who carried the weight of the
world around on his shoulders for a living suddenly
having a moment that made him laugh.

Contributing to that laughter, whenever I could, were
the high points of my time in Sauve.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the American people realy this dumb?

do.rflex wrote:
> http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/vastleft/depression.jpg
We'll know in November.

[FairfieldLife] Are the American people realy this dumb?



http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/vastleft/depression.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

2008-09-06 Thread boo_lives

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, Bongo, for providing the first two excellent links.
> > 
> > This is what I've been saying for years on this forum: the 
> > Republicans' preach is completely different from the Republicans' 
> > practise.
> > 
> > They talk about small government but once in power do the exact 
> > opposite.
> > 
> 
> The Republicans are actually telling the truth of what they intend to 
> do in office.  In the economic front, they say: we will reduce taxes 
> and increase national security.  Thus, the USA has a deficit because 
> the taxes were reduced and American troops are in Iraq and 
> Afghanistan.
> 
Govt' spending outside defense was also significantly increased.  look
it up.

> In effect, the Americans should think about what they're voting for 
> in the next election.  One way or another, politicians are going to 
> cost you money.
> 
The drastically increased US debt under Bush means HIGHER TAXES, just
a little later and with interest.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

Hey, did you notice the Crumbster, or an exhibit about his work got 
a good write up in the NYT yesterday.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the 
FairfieldLife 
> > > group.
> > > 
> > >   File: /Intro.pdf 
> > >   Uploaded by : transactual  
> > >   Description : Amazing channeled book from the Creator 
> > > 
> > > You can access this file at the URL:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Intro.pdf 
> > > 
> > 
> > The file is now in the folder labeled "Members' Writings and 
> > Suggestions".
> 
> Speaking of "suggestions," how's about not uploading
> files that don't have a clear explanation of what the
> document is in the title. 
> 
> I, for one, am never going to click on a document called
> "Intro.pdf"...to put such a document up is downright rude.
> *At least* tell us what it is, right?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah bikini pics

Are you saying you have a limp left wrist?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have been silent so far today because I have spent the entire
> morning examining all the gorgeous Sarah bikini pics on You Tube.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fiscal conservatism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Thank you, Bongo, for providing the first two excellent links.
> 
> This is what I've been saying for years on this forum: the 
> Republicans' preach is completely different from the Republicans' 
> practise.
> 
> They talk about small government but once in power do the exact 
> opposite.
> 

The Republicans are actually telling the truth of what they intend to 
do in office.  In the economic front, they say: we will reduce taxes 
and increase national security.  Thus, the USA has a deficit because 
the taxes were reduced and American troops are in Iraq and 
Afghanistan.

In effect, the Americans should think about what they're voting for 
in the next election.  One way or another, politicians are going to 
cost you money.









> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Presidents and fiscal conservatism:   
> > http://www.bartcop.com/fiscal-conservatives-808.jpg
> > ==
> > 
> > US Budget Deficit or Surplus - 1961 to present - Click to 
> enlarge:   
> > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/368978847_9f70bfd9c3_o.gif
> > ==
> > 
> > 
> > McSame brags he voted over 90% of the time with Bush - Watch: 
> > 
> 
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1185304443/bctid17641447
> 59 
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/05/open-thread-917/
> > ==
> > 
> > Palin left Wasilla [pop approx 7000] $20 million in debt:
> > http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/09/03/wasilla-in-debt/
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Englishman's jeremiad as to learning DN

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
> >
> 
> Flsahcards are actually worthless for something like that. 
> 
> Instead,
> get 8x enlarged pictures of each character (or combination) with 
> stroke order marked, and trace them 50 times each while saying them 
> aloud in a normal voice (not whispering). 
> 
> Now copythem another 50 times each without tracing, while still
> saying them aloud in a normal voice.
> 
> Now work from memory, still saying them in a normal voice as
> you draw.
> 
> 
> Go back every few days and repeat step 3 but only draw them 10 times.
> Always say them out loud while writing, and make sure its in a normal
> voice. Research shows that you must involve as many senses as possible
> so the sensation of your head vibrating while you say them will become
> part of the learning process. That's why you can't get the same result
> by whispering (my Japanese sensei did his PhD work, partly on this topic).
> 
> 
> Very simple, very tedious, but unless you have a strange nervous system,
> you WILLL learn them.
> 
> 
> Do the same thing with words and entire sentences.

Oh, and if possible, recite in unison with other students. Just like a chorus,
you tend to unconsciously adjust your pitch (pronunciation) to fit with everyone
else, even if you can't consciously get it right.

L.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Englishman's jeremiad as to learning DN

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

Flsahcards are actually worthless for something like that. 

Instead,
get 8x enlarged pictures of each character (or combination) with 
stroke order marked, and trace them 50 times each while saying them 
aloud in a normal voice (not whispering). 

Now copythem another 50 times each without tracing, while still
saying them aloud in a normal voice.

Now work from memory, still saying them in a normal voice as
you draw.


Go back every few days and repeat step 3 but only draw them 10 times.
Always say them out loud while writing, and make sure its in a normal
voice. Research shows that you must involve as many senses as possible
so the sensation of your head vibrating while you say them will become
part of the learning process. That's why you can't get the same result
by whispering (my Japanese sensei did his PhD work, partly on this topic).


Very simple, very tedious, but unless you have a strange nervous system,
you WILLL learn them.


Do the same thing with words and entire sentences.


> 
> A decade and a half ago, I thought it quite possible to read the
> Script in just several weeks.
>  
> After all, I had just settled back in the UK after more than a decade
> in Saudi Arabia, producing Bi-lingual reports for Saudi Telephone, The
> National Port Authority, Not to mention MODA (Ministry of Defense and
> Aviation - on the Aviation side) - during that time I got to the stage
> where I could actually 'read' numbers which was more than what most of
> the Europeans - (Austrians, Germans - no Fins)  Indians - many of
> them!  or Americans managed! There were plenty of Egyptians Syrians
> Saudi around - including the odd Iraqi at one time.
>  
> Anyway, I carefully printed and cut, every one of Wikner's Flash cards
> - they are right here, right now on my desk. I began . . . an hour
> later I woke up,  well, I was tired. A week later (well, I was busy!)
> I had another go - after about 10 minutes, I realized I had been
> staring out the window, daydreaming, try again - same thing.
>  
> About a month later . . . you get the Idea.
>  
> Before that , I had an old Windows 3.5 App. It would pop up a
> Devnagari letter at random and invite you to click the Latin one. They
> all looked the same to me!
>  
> But I am persistent . . .
>  
> I -can- recognize the script, like a child - if they don't have too
> many ligatures.
>  
> On the other hand I can (and do), delve into those hexadecimal bits
> and bytes, write computer code for hours at a stretch, but please not
> Devanagari!
>  
> When I can't get to sleep at night for some reason - Maurer's 'The
> Sanskrit Language' does the trick in no time - really!
>  
> Romanized diacritics are no problem at all, I don't even realize they
> are Sanskrit - Camel case letters are something else, like some
> teenage hacker has hacked my computer!
>  
> I don't need to sing the praises of the Lord, where a miss-pronounced
> syllable will earn me eternal damnation in a warm place. I am not a
> member of any of the Dead Poets Appreciation Societies. In science a
> clay pot is a clay pot, whatever is on the label, it won't jump up and
> bite me if I pronounce it klay paurt, claiy putt or whatever.
>  
> There are many, many like myself, who don't  -need- the script, but
> want the text(s) in readable form.
>  
> As to Bhoja's stuff I have transliterated the complete text, parsed
> it, and marked it up in .htm. After throwing it at the MW for
> verification of the hyperlinks I have still a thousand or so root/stem
> forms in those links to determine. But have been neglecting this side
> of things to work on the computing side. To where I am able, mouse
> click on a source- text word, - plain text, rtf or htm, Devanaagarii
> or otherwise word, and have the dictionary present the word together
> with any inflection information. The machine is immune to sleeping
> sickness!
>  
> It's alright for you with dozens of case endings in your language. A
> mere eight is a piffle!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah bikini pics

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have been silent so far today because I have spent the entire
> morning examining all the gorgeous Sarah bikini pics on You Tube.
> Unfortunately, after extensive and time consuming analysis, I have to
> inform my fellow FFLers that they are all fake. Pity. But they've
> certainly found some nice bodies to put Sarah's head on.
>


I hope your keyboard isn't too sticky.

[FairfieldLife] An Englishman's jeremiad as to learning DN

2008-09-06 Thread cardemaister


A decade and a half ago, I thought it quite possible to read the
Script in just several weeks.
 
After all, I had just settled back in the UK after more than a decade
in Saudi Arabia, producing Bi-lingual reports for Saudi Telephone, The
National Port Authority, Not to mention MODA (Ministry of Defense and
Aviation - on the Aviation side) - during that time I got to the stage
where I could actually 'read' numbers which was more than what most of
the Europeans - (Austrians, Germans - no Fins)  Indians - many of
them!  or Americans managed! There were plenty of Egyptians Syrians
Saudi around - including the odd Iraqi at one time.
 
Anyway, I carefully printed and cut, every one of Wikner's Flash cards
- they are right here, right now on my desk. I began . . . an hour
later I woke up,  well, I was tired. A week later (well, I was busy!)
I had another go - after about 10 minutes, I realized I had been
staring out the window, daydreaming, try again - same thing.
 
About a month later . . . you get the Idea.
 
Before that , I had an old Windows 3.5 App. It would pop up a
Devnagari letter at random and invite you to click the Latin one. They
all looked the same to me!
 
But I am persistent . . .
 
I -can- recognize the script, like a child - if they don't have too
many ligatures.
 
On the other hand I can (and do), delve into those hexadecimal bits
and bytes, write computer code for hours at a stretch, but please not
Devanagari!
 
When I can't get to sleep at night for some reason - Maurer's 'The
Sanskrit Language' does the trick in no time - really!
 
Romanized diacritics are no problem at all, I don't even realize they
are Sanskrit - Camel case letters are something else, like some
teenage hacker has hacked my computer!
 
I don't need to sing the praises of the Lord, where a miss-pronounced
syllable will earn me eternal damnation in a warm place. I am not a
member of any of the Dead Poets Appreciation Societies. In science a
clay pot is a clay pot, whatever is on the label, it won't jump up and
bite me if I pronounce it klay paurt, claiy putt or whatever.
 
There are many, many like myself, who don't  -need- the script, but
want the text(s) in readable form.
 
As to Bhoja's stuff I have transliterated the complete text, parsed
it, and marked it up in .htm. After throwing it at the MW for
verification of the hyperlinks I have still a thousand or so root/stem
forms in those links to determine. But have been neglecting this side
of things to work on the computing side. To where I am able, mouse
click on a source- text word, - plain text, rtf or htm, Devanaagarii
or otherwise word, and have the dictionary present the word together
with any inflection information. The machine is immune to sleeping
sickness!
 
It's alright for you with dozens of case endings in your language. A
mere eight is a piffle!

[FairfieldLife] Sarah bikini pics

2008-09-06 Thread feste37

I have been silent so far today because I have spent the entire
morning examining all the gorgeous Sarah bikini pics on You Tube.
Unfortunately, after extensive and time consuming analysis, I have to
inform my fellow FFLers that they are all fake. Pity. But they've
certainly found some nice bodies to put Sarah's head on.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

Emily Latella time. I see there is a Description field.

Never mind.  :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife 
> > > group.
> > > 
> > >   File: /Intro.pdf 
> > >   Uploaded by : transactual  
> > >   Description : Amazing channeled book from the Creator 
> > > 
> > > You can access this file at the URL:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Intro.pdf 
> > > 
> > 
> > The file is now in the folder labeled "Members' Writings and 
> > Suggestions".
> 
> Speaking of "suggestions," how's about not uploading
> files that don't have a clear explanation of what the
> document is in the title. 
> 
> I, for one, am never going to click on a document called
> "Intro.pdf"...to put such a document up is downright rude.
> *At least* tell us what it is, right?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife