[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits (Maharishi speaks of his vow of celebacy on BBC
-An old BBC interview with Maharishi, where he discusses his vow of celibacy and on being a monk. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/audiointerviews/profilepages/maharishi1. shtml -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not okay with MMY giving jewelry and saris to favorite ladies unless the money was donated specifically for that. After all, the TMO's selling of MMY to the public has always made a big thing of MMY's vow of poverty and has continually assured us that MMY would never take actual possession of any TMO money for personal use. Actually, I have to say that I *never* heard anything like this from the TMO -- officially or unofficially -- in my 14 years with the organization. I'm wondering if it's one of those imagined urban legends that show up from time to time, like Maharishi claiming to be celibate. I never heard him say anything about *that*, either. In my experience, people sometimes take their assump- tions about how a spiritual teacher should act and make them into assumptions about how the teacher has actually *said* they would act. My suspicion is that if you heard either thing -- that MMY had taken a vow of poverty or that he had taken a vow of celibacy -- from someone in the TM movement, that person either made it up or was passing along something that someone else had made up. Can anyone here claim to have heard *Maharishi himself* ever say such things? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not okay with MMY giving jewelry and saris to favorite ladies unless the money was donated specifically for that. After all, the TMO's selling of MMY to the public has always made a big thing of MMY's vow of poverty and has continually assured us that MMY would never take actual possession of any TMO money for personal use. Actually, I have to say that I *never* heard anything like this from the TMO -- officially or unofficially -- in my 14 years with the organization. I'm wondering if it's one of those imagined urban legends that show up from time to time, like Maharishi claiming to be celibate. I never heard him say anything about *that*, either. In my experience, people sometimes take their assump- tions about how a spiritual teacher should act and make them into assumptions about how the teacher has actually *said* they would act. My suspicion is that if you heard either thing -- that MMY had taken a vow of poverty or that he had taken a vow of celibacy -- from someone in the TM movement, that person either made it up or was passing along something that someone else had made up. Can anyone here claim to have heard *Maharishi himself* ever say such things? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY gave jewelry and saris to his favorite MD women? That has an odd quality to it, doesn't it? Be thankful for little things. He could be knocking them up and growing the cult one little Maharishi at a time... :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/3/05 1:23 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the feeling that what Rick was referring to was the idea of women as equals. In my experience, Maharishi always treated the women around him as decoration, or as something you put up on a pedestal and revere, as opposed to actually relating to. And he often decorated them. It was common for him to buy jewelry and saris for Mother Divine ladies. Expensive ones for the higher-ups, but even my wife got some nice stuff while on MD. I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing. Ladies like stuff like that and it gave them some relative happiness, which they may have been missing. There may not have been anything technically wrong with it, but the idea of a life-long celibate giving women jewelry and saris does make me feel icky. Leave the giving of feminine gifts to ladies to the householders, please. Yes, there's a creep factor in it. Something adharmic. A bluring of appropriate social roles. Like a spiritual teacher asking an attractive follower to give him a back rub. I don't know the answer to this question, because I haven't been in touch with the TMO for so long, but among all the scientists invited to speak and lend their caveat to the TMO and help sell its products, has there ever been a woman scientist? Has any woman who is considered a leader in her field ever been invited to speak at TM-sponsored symposia? Has any woman ever been involved in the groups that do the strategic planning with Maharishi? I never saw any. Suzie Dillbeck did plenty. Also Rhoda Orme-Johnson and other ladies with academic qualifications spoke at conferences if they were qualified to speak. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not putting you on about this. It's just the strangest phenomenon in the world, but it happens. And far more often than you might think, -You mean the atraction between a man and a woman is strange even when it's between a teacher and student? No, of course not. That's natural. What is strange is that the teacher would spend a lot of time with the student he's sleeping with talking trash about the other students and putting them down. That's the phenomenon that's common, and strikes me as more than a little strange. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole problem is that in the TMO where most of the powerful figures are male and where women are accorded no respect, who amongst them is going to believe anything any woman says? I've got alot of complaints about the TMO but no where and at no time did I ever have the impression that either MMY or the TMO ever accorded women no respect; indeed, I would say that, between the sexes, preferential treatment and respect were given women...both in practise and in the teaching. I got the feeling that what Rick was referring to was the idea of women as equals. In my experience, Maharishi always treated the women around him as decoration, or as something you put up on a pedestal and revere, as opposed to actually relating to. I don't know the answer to this question, because I haven't been in touch with the TMO for so long, but among all the scientists invited to speak and lend their caveat to the TMO and help sell its products, has there ever been a woman scientist? Has any woman who is considered a leader in her field ever been invited to speak at TM-sponsored symposia? Has any woman ever been involved in the groups that do the strategic planning with Maharishi? I never saw any. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits and outlandish schemes.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that MMY knows these outlandish schemes wont get achieved time after time year after year , but in effect it is some technique for his true believer type die hard followers. I am not one and get angry when these relative goals dont occur and dont really want to be a part to this cult anymore that follows a master no matter what he says whether it happens on the relative plane or not but I have to belive he knows what he is doing and it gets his followers to know his wishes and to strive for them as goals. If not then he would be so angry at everything we had not done or achieved by now he would have shut us down a long time ago way before England. Hopefully someone tells him we dont even have 500 in the domes period no less to fly and 2,000 to live in Vedic City is our Ru population or not even with everyone doing other techniques etc and we are not leaving our mortgage homes for some prefab structure. It will be great for renters. So I think he gives the weak followers who cant think for themselves these projects so that they have some path and for the rest of us who can think for ourselves we dont need that master thing. Doesn't it strike you that Maharishi is only interested in dealing with people who DO need that master thing? TM is really only being taught in schools where he can control the indoctrination of students over a period of years. Teachers who show any indication of being independent are declared non-teachers. It's an obvious consolidation of the organization to eliminate anyone who *doesn't* need the master thing, and consider him the master. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits and outlandish schemes.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that MMY knows these outlandish schemes wont get achieved time after time year after year , but in effect it is some technique for his true believer type die hard followers. I am not one and get angry when these relative goals dont occur and dont really want to be a part to this cult anymore that follows a master no matter what he says whether it happens on the relative plane or not but I have to belive he knows what he is doing and it gets his followers to know his wishes and to strive for them as goals. If not then he would be so angry at everything we had not done or achieved by now he would have shut us down a long time ago way before England. Hopefully someone tells him we dont even have 500 in the domes period no less to fly and 2,000 to live in Vedic City is our Ru population or not even with everyone doing other techniques etc and we are not leaving our mortgage homes for some prefab structure. It will be great for renters. So I think he gives the weak followers who cant think for themselves these projects so that they have some path and for the rest of us who can think for ourselves we dont need that master thing. Doesn't it strike you that Maharishi is only interested in dealing with people who DO need that master thing? TM is really only being taught in schools where he can control the indoctrination of students over a period of years. Teachers who show any indication of being independent are declared non-teachers. It's an obvious consolidation of the organization to eliminate anyone who *doesn't* need the master thing, and consider him the master. To a certain extentthis may be true (I've said as much saying that MMY is creating a hardcore group that will follow King Tony after MMY dies). However, there are reasonably (as far as I can tell) independent schools and whatnot that still associate with the TMO without the requirement of crowns and so on. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Not hard for me to imagine at all Whoa dude. Now that is Awesome! That is just plain beautiful. Hats off to Llundrub, the cooking, writing sensation from NOLA. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
-- I've got alot of complaints about the TMO but no where and at no time did I ever have the impression that either MMY or the TMO ever accorded women no respect; indeed, I would say that, between the sexes, preferential treatment and respect were given women...both in practise and in the teaching. Ain't no lady Rajas... The TMO of old is not be the TMO of present. Sort of the whole rasion etre for FFL right? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also is she married? Is now; wasn't then. He's starting to crack. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
talking trash about the other students and putting them down.That's the phenomenon that's common, and strikes me as morethan a little strange.It can mean only one thing - self hatred - otherwise the teacher would have to respect the student who had the foresight to listen to him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
Oh thanks. MY wife said, "Will you stop please. I'm trying to eat." - Original Message - From: lurkernomore20002000 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote:snip Not hard for me to imagine at allWhoa dude. Now that is Awesome! That is just plain beautiful. Hats off to Llundrub, the cooking, writing sensation from NOLA.lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits and outlandish schemes.
yes I do agree and it is not for me I love living in Fairfield because we have been here so long and have so many friends here and it is small town living at its finest very easy. You give up amenties but they are close by if you need them. Not like some cities but enough to get by it is very sweet but the whole TMO thing makes me feel so jailed in this town. I try to just stay away from it . I am sure in some big city I would feel jailed by traffic or something else. I do feel very safe here which goes a long way these days , but yes I think it has always been this way the weak are around MMY. They may be brillant but they cant think for themselves at all and are happy to blindly follow a master. Does he take advantage of that probably why would he want to waste his energy going up against all the non believers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that MMY knows these outlandish schemes wont get achieved time after time year after year , but in effect it is some technique for his true believer type die hard followers. I am not one and get angry when these relative goals dont occur and dont really want to be a part to this cult anymore that follows a master no matter what he says whether it happens on the relative plane or not but I have to belive he knows what he is doing and it gets his followers to know his wishes and to strive for them as goals. If not then he would be so angry at everything we had not done or achieved by now he would have shut us down a long time ago way before England. Hopefully someone tells him we dont even have 500 in the domes period no less to fly and 2,000 to live in Vedic City is our Ru population or not even with everyone doing other techniques etc and we are not leaving our mortgage homes for some prefab structure. It will be great for renters. So I think he gives the weak followers who cant think for themselves these projects so that they have some path and for the rest of us who can think for ourselves we dont need that master thing. Doesn't it strike you that Maharishi is only interested in dealing with people who DO need that master thing? TM is really only being taught in schools where he can control the indoctrination of students over a period of years. Teachers who show any indication of being independent are declared non-teachers. It's an obvious consolidation of the organization to eliminate anyone who *doesn't* need the master thing, and consider him the master. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits and outlandish schemes.
Well I will change it to those who want to follow a master and not think for themselves at all. @yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that MMY knows these outlandish schemes wont get achieved time after time year after year , but in effect it is some technique for his true believer type die hard followers. I am not one and get angry when these relative goals dont occur and dont really want to be a part to this cult anymore that follows a master no matter what he says whether it happens on the relative plane or not but I have to belive he knows what he is doing and it gets his followers to know his wishes and to strive for them as goals. If not then he would be so angry at everything we had not done or achieved by now he would have shut us down a long time ago way before England. Hopefully someone tells him we dont even have 500 in the domes period no less to fly and 2,000 to live in Vedic City is our Ru population or not even with everyone doing other techniques etc and we are not leaving our mortgage homes for some prefab structure. It will be great for renters. So I think he gives the weak followers who cant think for themselves these projects so that they have some path and for the rest of us who can think for ourselves we dont need that master thing. Doesn't it strike you that Maharishi is only interested in dealing with people who DO need that master thing? TM is really only being taught in schools where he can control the indoctrination of students over a period of years. Teachers who show any indication of being independent are declared non-teachers. It's an obvious consolidation of the organization to eliminate anyone who *doesn't* need the master thing, and consider him the master. To a certain extentthis may be true (I've said as much saying that MMY is creating a hardcore group that will follow King Tony after MMY dies). However, there are reasonably (as far as I can tell) independent schools and whatnot that still associate with the TMO without the requirement of crowns and so on. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...talking trash about the other students and putting them down. That's the phenomenon that's common, and strikes me as more than a little strange. It can mean only one thing - self hatred - otherwise the teacher would have to respect the student who had the foresight to listen to him. That's certainly a possibility. It could also be a method of channeling self-doubts by projecting them onto the students. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
on 8/3/05 7:41 AM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also is she married? Is now; wasn't then. He's starting to crack. Her name rhymes with floccinaucinihilipilification To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/3/05 7:41 AM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also is she married? Is now; wasn't then. He's starting to crack. Her name rhymes with floccinaucinihilipilification Shit. I've slept with her, too. I hope she doesn't tell all. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
on 8/3/05 1:23 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the feeling that what Rick was referring to was the idea of women as equals. In my experience, Maharishi always treated the women around him as decoration, or as something you put up on a pedestal and revere, as opposed to actually relating to. And he often decorated them. It was common for him to buy jewelry and saris for Mother Divine ladies. Expensive ones for the higher-ups, but even my wife got some nice stuff while on MD. I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing. Ladies like stuff like that and it gave them some relative happiness, which they may have been missing. I don't know the answer to this question, because I haven't been in touch with the TMO for so long, but among all the scientists invited to speak and lend their caveat to the TMO and help sell its products, has there ever been a woman scientist? Has any woman who is considered a leader in her field ever been invited to speak at TM-sponsored symposia? Has any woman ever been involved in the groups that do the strategic planning with Maharishi? I never saw any. Suzie Dillbeck did plenty. Also Rhoda Orme-Johnson and other ladies with academic qualifications spoke at conferences if they were qualified to speak. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
---Also, Susan Humphrey.. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/3/05 1:23 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the feeling that what Rick was referring to was the idea of women as equals. In my experience, Maharishi always treated the women around him as decoration, or as something you put up on a pedestal and revere, as opposed to actually relating to. And he often decorated them. It was common for him to buy jewelry and saris for Mother Divine ladies. Expensive ones for the higher-ups, but even my wife got some nice stuff while on MD. I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing. Ladies like stuff like that and it gave them some relative happiness, which they may have been missing. I don't know the answer to this question, because I haven't been in touch with the TMO for so long, but among all the scientists invited to speak and lend their caveat to the TMO and help sell its products, has there ever been a woman scientist? Has any woman who is considered a leader in her field ever been invited to speak at TM-sponsored symposia? Has any woman ever been involved in the groups that do the strategic planning with Maharishi? I never saw any. Suzie Dillbeck did plenty. Also Rhoda Orme-Johnson and other ladies with academic qualifications spoke at conferences if they were qualified to speak. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Also, Susan Humphrey.. And what about Nancy Lansdorf? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits and outlandish schemes.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes I do agree and it is not for me I love living in Fairfield because we have been here so long and have so many friends here and it is small town living at its finest very easy. You give up amenties but they are close by if you need them. Not like some cities but enough to get by it is very sweet but the whole TMO thing makes me feel so jailed in this town. I try to just stay away from it . I am sure in some big city I would feel jailed by traffic or something else. I do feel very safe here which goes a long way these days , but yes I think it has always been this way the weak are around MMY. They may be brillant but they cant think for themselves at all and are happy to blindly follow a master. Does he take advantage of that probably why would he want to waste his energy going up against all the non believers. Pibs, I enjoy your posts, but do you have something against *paragraphs*. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
Santana Dharma - good name for an album... You might be missing an a? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santana Dharma - good name for an album... You might be missing an a? Yes, dharma according to Carlos. Black Magic Woman as an ode to Mother Divine. Actually, it didn't look right so I looked it up before I posted. http://www.experiencefestival.com/santana_dharma But I think you are right. Most spell it Sanatana Dharma. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santana Dharma - good name for an album... You might be missing an a? Or, Lawd have mercy, two: sanaatana-dharma --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
Here's Rick's question and the answer to it, in two short posts. Gullibility is having made the decision to believe someone, and believe in someone, no matter what. It renders one incapable of even hearing something other than what the authority has said. Does Maharishi play with this, knowing that his followers have lost their ability to discriminate? Well, duh. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the Pillow Talk with the Great Man consisted of him bashing everyone who was willing to work for him because they were so gullible? Sounds to me like there's another gullible person posting in this exchange... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some here have wondered about Maharishi1s motives in fostering his increasingly bizarre schemes. Tallest buildings, rajas, etc. Some say he1s upping the weirdness ante in order to motivate people to leave and think for themselves. Others say his vision is far ahead of the rest of the world and he1s establishing the foundation of an enlightened society. Here1s another theory. When Jennifer was in M1s room late at night in Mallorca (for reasons we need not re-hash) she said he often derided the Westerners as gullible fools for believing all the things he was telling them (hence, our dear, already-enlightened co-moderator1s handle). Perhaps, like a playground bully, he has a cynical streak that causes him to derive pleasure from making fools out of people. Perhaps, as with any addiction, he has had to keep increasing the weirdness ante in order to continue gratifying this streak. If there is any truth to this theory, I wouldn1t assume this was his only motivation. He1s a master at incorporating paradoxical tendencies. I would suggest that plenty of altruism is mixed with the cynicism. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's Rick's question and the answer to it, in two short posts. Gullibility is having made the decision to believe someone, and believe in someone, no matter what. It renders one incapable of even hearing something other than what the authority has said. Does Maharishi play with this, knowing that his followers have lost their ability to discriminate? Well, duh. I tend to think about this whenever I see 1 million dollar crowns and robs, and fairly quiet real estate transactions on rundown properties bought with other peoples money... (sometimes accompanied by a flickering thought of Girish) JohnY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the Pillow Talk with the Great Man consisted of him bashing everyone who was willing to work for him because they were so gullible? Sounds to me like there's another gullible person posting in this exchange... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some here have wondered about Maharishi1s motives in fostering his increasingly bizarre schemes. Tallest buildings, rajas, etc. Some say he1s upping the weirdness ante in order to motivate people to leave and think for themselves. Others say his vision is far ahead of the rest of the world and he1s establishing the foundation of an enlightened society. Here1s another theory. When Jennifer was in M1s room late at night in Mallorca (for reasons we need not re-hash) she said he often derided the Westerners as gullible fools for believing all the things he was telling them (hence, our dear, already-enlightened co-moderator1s handle). Perhaps, like a playground bully, he has a cynical streak that causes him to derive pleasure from making fools out of people. Perhaps, as with any addiction, he has had to keep increasing the weirdness ante in order to continue gratifying this streak. If there is any truth to this theory, I wouldn1t assume this was his only motivation. He1s a master at incorporating paradoxical tendencies. I would suggest that plenty of altruism is mixed with the cynicism. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
on 8/2/05 2:31 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't address whether or not MMY said these things or whether or not he was having sex with the woman, but I CAN suggest that it would be rather odd to have sex with a guru- worshiper and inform her that he didn't respect the guru-worshipers... Maybe the nature of their relationship kind of leveled the playing field. Hard to worship someone you're sleeping with. Or maybe he was flattering her by treating her as a confidant. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits on 8/2/04 3:15 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. -Is it a crown flipper? No crown. Women dont get crowns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 2:45 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole thing seems unlikely. If MMY was so out-of-control as to have had multiple affairs, it seems likely that this thing would have been common knowledge throughout the TMO from day one, and not a rumor. There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Is it bigger than a breadbox? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. It just seems incredibly self-destructive for MMY to not only have a secret love affair with a worshiper and then spend his time bashing all the other worshipers. Maybe he was supposed to be building her up by implying that she wasn't one of those silly people? I think that if you look into the whole subject of teacher-student sex in a spiritual community, you'll find that this behavior is actually pretty common. It seems to be part of the syndrome. In almost every instance of it I've heard about or read about, the pattern is the same. I don't really understand it any more than anyone else, but I know that it happened with Rama, I know that it happened with Trungpa and with his senior teachers, I know that it happened with the Zen Center scandals in San Francsico. Go figure. Maybe the teachers think that they're bonding somehow with the student they're fucking by convincing them that they're somehow special, compared to the other students. Maybe it really *is* self destructive. I don't know. I'm not putting you on about this. It's just the strangest phenomenon in the world, but it happens. And far more often than you might think, To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 2:45 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole thing seems unlikely. If MMY was so out-of-control as to have had multiple affairs, it seems likely that this thing would have been common knowledge throughout the TMO from day one, and not a rumor. There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Rindy Schwartz? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 2:45 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole thing seems unlikely. If MMY was so out-of-control as to have had multiple affairs, it seems likely that this thing would have been common knowledge throughout the TMO from day one, and not a rumor. There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Rindy Schwartz? Pamela Lee Anderson? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. It just seems incredibly self-destructive for MMY to not only have a secret love affair with a worshiper and then spend his time bashing all the other worshipers. Maybe he was supposed to be building her up by implying that she wasn't one of those silly people? I think that if you look into the whole subject of teacher-student sex in a spiritual community, you'll find that this behavior is actually pretty common. It seems to be part of the syndrome. In almost every instance of it I've heard about or read about, the pattern is the same. I don't really understand it any more than anyone else, but I know that it happened with Rama, I know that it happened with Trungpa and with his senior teachers, I know that it happened with the Zen Center scandals in San Francsico. Go figure. Maybe the teachers think that they're bonding somehow with the student they're fucking by convincing them that they're somehow special, compared to the other students. Maybe it really *is* self destructive. I don't know. I'm not putting you on about this. It's just the strangest phenomenon in the world, but it happens. And far more often than you might think, One thing I know for sureand that is that MMY did not have sex with me. Period. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. -Is it a crown flipper? Damn! There are times when your sick sense of humor just makes my day, man. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
on 8/2/05 3:22 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 2:45 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole thing seems unlikely. If MMY was so out-of-control as to have had multiple affairs, it seems likely that this thing would have been common knowledge throughout the TMO from day one, and not a rumor. There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Rindy Schwartz? No, but a friend of mine was living under M's room in Weggis and he used to hear Rindi and Maharishi up there talking and laughing most of the night. Doesn't mean anything inappropriate was happening though. But don't keep guessing. I can't name names on this one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
on 8/2/05 3:21 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Is it bigger than a breadbox? Size does matter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
I'm not putting you on about this. It's just the strangest phenomenon in the world, but it happens. And far moreoften than you might think,-You mean the atraction between a man and a woman is strange even when it's between a teacher and student? I don't find that strange at all really. I therefore have chosen the path of the Ngakpa who is basically the Buddhist tantric householder. At least there can be no sexual scandals amongst ngakpa, unless of course the teacher is just fucking everybody. I mean, consider being a teacher. You're sitting on a platform for long hours and the blood is pooling in your loins. Your ass feels flat and you're craving a good set of asanas. Thank God the meeting is over and you leave. But then half way back to your floor... The acolytes have gone and the wife of your assistant is clearing the flowers and tidying up. You go back to the room to get your spare dhoti that you left on the back table.It's your favorite bacause it doesn't bind up when you sit on it and pull your shoulders and hair. The wife sees you and does a bow and namaste and looks up at you with startling green eyes and the most intense blue black hair you've ever seen and you can smell the freshness of it. H, what is that? It smells like fresh Nag Champa blossoms. She also has lips that are as plush as a new feather pillow and she says, "Can I do anything for you...Master?" You are about to run out of the room but think that would be rude so you say, "No thanks." And she frowns. And all of a sudden you feel sorry for her, and sort of love her and have a hardon under your cloak. You want to tear away but to do so is somehow harder than you could imagine because all you have waiting for you backinyour room high is an open window and those sterile Alps jutting high into the clouds, anda hard matress and thin silk sheets and acopy of themanu Smriti, and it all somehow now just seems so empty. Then you realize it would be so full if she was naked on that bed, giving that ripe fruit of a mouth to you to drink from, giving her vagina like a clasp for your hook, and you think that unless you pursue this all your future days and night will be misery. In fact, due to the very nature of your normally empty mind now she has assumed some cosmic importance that you just cannot overcome. You know it must be the will of Mother Divine. You never even consider that George, her husband is your most devoted servant, who loves you and will do anything for you. Meanwhile she's thinking, "George loves this man and will do anything for him. He sort of smells like rancid sesame oil but look at those deep and mesmerizing eyes. It seems like he can read my very soul. I've never been stripped so naked before, having sex would just be like so natural after the way he undressed my mind like this." George retreats to some mental background hum and the Masters eyes and voice, the way he says, "hummg" it all sort of tears you apart... You go back to his room and get naked. He digs into your crotch with his kneeding little fingers and pastes his mouth to your neck but wont kiss your mouth. You feel like you must have bad breath maybe? Itmust bethe ginger tofu, it always makes you have to brush your teeth. And as you're thinking of your bad breath he gets his cock in you and then it's over as fast as it began and he asks you to leave. Not hard for me to imagine at all To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Damn. Just as I was planning to fade in to the FFL sunset. The soap opera quality here reminds me of when my first wife was pregnant with our first son at MIU. All she could do was lie in our pod room and throw up and watch TV. The only channel we got on our crappy little BW TV was ABC: All My Children, One Life to Live and General Hospital (anyone remember Luke Laura?). As it was only during this time slot that she wasn't feeling totally like shit, that was our time together. We actually named our son Jaimini, partially due to Indian saint and (more likely) because there was a cute kid on one of those damn soap operas named Jamie. I did both of our class work (statute of limitations on that one?) and tried to get her potatoes from the commissary, as it was the only thing she could keep down. A potato baked in our equally crappy toaster oven. You wouldn't believe how hard it was to get a few lousy taters. I showed them her meal card, saying she wouldn't be eating at the cafeteria and could I have a few potatoes. Suffice it to say I had to get a friend who had commissary privileges to smuggle the spuds (man, who knows what the statute is on that one!) Anyway, I vowed after all of that, never to watch a soap opera again. And here I am on FFL. Funnily enough (remember that phrase?) I met a Scientologist who used to be on one of those shows. He opened his talk by saying he had been on a soap opera with the most unlikely title and made us guess. Yup: One Life to Live Most likely to tease poster: Nominating Mr. Archer To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 2:45 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole thing seems unlikely. If MMY was so out-of-control as to have had multiple affairs, it seems likely that this thing would have been common knowledge throughout the TMO from day one, and not a rumor. There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Rindy Schwartz? Pamela Lee Anderson? Nah, she's Canadian, contains loads of sillycone, and her grandfather was finish! http://tinyurl.com/4rrng To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 3:22 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 2:45 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole thing seems unlikely. If MMY was so out-of-control as to have had multiple affairs, it seems likely that this thing would have been common knowledge throughout the TMO from day one, and not a rumor. There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Rindy Schwartz? No, but a friend of mine was living under M's room in Weggis and he used to hear Rindi and Maharishi up there talking and laughing most of the night. Doesn't mean anything inappropriate was happening though. But don't keep guessing. I can't name names on this one. Mother Olsen? Lillian Rosen? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/04 3:40 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just meant is it believable enough that people who payed a million bucks for a crown will flip out over it? Most will believe it unless they are seriously brain washed. Then again, if they don¹t have all the other stories to corroborate it, they may decide this person has flipped out, as I used to do when one of M¹s secretaries would fly the coop. fly the coope...care to relate any of those stories to us, please? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Damn. Just as I was planning to fade in to the FFL sunset. The soap opera quality here reminds me of when my first wife was pregnant with our first son at MIU. All she could do was lie in our pod room and throw up and watch TV. The only channel we got on our crappy little BW TV was ABC: All My Children, One Life to Live and General Hospital (anyone remember Luke Laura?). As it was only during this time slot that she wasn't feeling totally like shit, that was our time together. We actually named our son Jaimini, partially due to Indian saint and (more likely) because there was a cute kid on one of those damn soap operas named Jamie. I did both of our class work (statute of limitations on that one?) and tried to get her potatoes from the commissary, as it was the only thing she could keep down. A potato baked in our equally crappy toaster oven. You wouldn't believe how hard it was to get a few lousy taters. I showed them her meal card, saying she wouldn't be eating at the cafeteria and could I have a few potatoes. Suffice it to say I had to get a friend who had commissary privileges to smuggle the spuds (man, who knows what the statute is on that one!) Anyway, I vowed after all of that, never to watch a soap opera again. And here I am on FFL. Funnily enough (remember that phrase?) I met a Scientologist who used to be on one of those shows. He opened his talk by saying he had been on a soap opera with the most unlikely title and made us guess. Yup: One Life to Live Most likely to tease poster: Nominating Mr. Archer Yeah, he's a regular Sheharezade To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rindy Schwartz? The whole problem is that in the TMO where most of the powerful figures are male and where women are accorded no respect, who amongst them is going to believe anything any woman says? I've got alot of complaints about the TMO but no where and at no time did I ever have the impression that either MMY or the TMO ever accorded women no respect; indeed, I would say that, between the sexes, preferential treatment and respect were given women...both in practise and in the teaching. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
on 8/2/05 5:45 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most likely to tease poster: Nominating Mr. Archer Yeah, he's a regular Sheharezade I'll cop to that, but I'm not familiar with the term and Google doesn't help. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: indeed, I would say that, between the sexes, preferential treatment and respect were given women...both in practise and in the teaching. I agree. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rindy Schwartz? The whole problem is that in the TMO where most of the powerful figures are male and where women are accorded no respect, who amongst them is going to believe anything any woman says? I've got alot of complaints about the TMO but no where and at no time did I ever have the impression that either MMY or the TMO ever accorded women no respect; indeed, I would say that, between the sexes, preferential treatment and respect were given women...both in practise and in the teaching. Ain't no lady Rajas... If you look at the photos of the recent Raja coronation ceremony (somebody posted a link a couple weeks ago), many of them are pictured side-by-side with their wives, but the captions read Raja So-and-So of Wherever; the women aren't mentioned, as if they didn't exist. (Actually at first the captions said, Raja So-and- So and Wife, but apparently somebody felt that gave a little too much recognition to the women, so the and Wife was subsequently removed from the captions.) The respect is more like lip service, as someone here observed a while back, at least in terms of women having any voice in running the movement at the top levels. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 5:45 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most likely to tease poster: Nominating Mr. Archer Yeah, he's a regular Sheharezade I'll cop to that, but I'm not familiar with the term and Google doesn't help. Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheherazade (The name is a transliteration from the Arabic, so it's spelled several different ways.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
The whole problem is that in the TMO where most of the powerful figures are male and where women are accorded no respect, who amongst them is going to believe anything any woman says?I've got alot of complaints about the TMO but no where and at no time did I ever have the impression that either MMY or the TMO ever accorded women "no respect"; indeed, I would say that, between the sexes, preferential treatment and respect were given women...both in practise and in the teaching.But not in terms of any sort of actualization. Women are fine, on Mother Divine, but not in management. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits on 8/2/04 6:48 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole problem is that in the TMO where most of the powerful figures are male and where women are accorded no respect, who amongst them is going to believe anything any woman says? I've got alot of complaints about the TMO but no where and at no time did I ever have the impression that either MMY or the TMO ever accorded women no respect; indeed, I would say that, between the sexes, preferential treatment and respect were given women...both in practise and in the teaching. But not in terms of any sort of actualization. Women are fine, on Mother Divine, but not in management. At MUM women often hold high administrative positions, but never top ones. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
on 8/2/05 6:29 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 5:45 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most likely to tease poster: Nominating Mr. Archer Yeah, he's a regular Sheharezade I'll cop to that, but I'm not familiar with the term and Google doesn't help. Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheherazade (The name is a transliteration from the Arabic, so it's spelled several different ways.) I see. So he thinks I'm making up stories. Whatever. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
on 8/2/05 5:39 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/04 3:40 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just meant is it believable enough that people who payed a million bucks for a crown will flip out over it? Most will believe it unless they are seriously brain washed. Then again, if they don¹t have all the other stories to corroborate it, they may decide this person has flipped out, as I used to do when one of M¹s secretaries would fly the coop. fly the coope...care to relate any of those stories to us, please? Just the stuff Conny Larsson, Billy Clayton, Rob McCutchean, and others said. Most of it is in the Sexy Sadie file. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 5:39 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/04 3:40 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just meant is it believable enough that people who payed a million bucks for a crown will flip out over it? Most will believe it unless they are seriously brain washed. Then again, if they don¹t have all the other stories to corroborate it, they may decide this person has flipped out, as I used to do when one of M¹s secretaries would fly the coop. fly the coope...care to relate any of those stories to us, please? Just the stuff Conny Larsson, Billy Clayton, Rob McCutchean, and others said. Most of it is in the Sexy Sadie file. Rick, when do you think we'll find out about this? Also is she married? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
on 8/2/05 8:47 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just the stuff Conny Larsson, Billy Clayton, Rob McCutchean, and others said. Most of it is in the Sexy Sadie file. Rick, when do you think we'll find out about this? She wants to talk with me. I can't guarantee she'll let me post anything here. Also is she married? Is now; wasn't then. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 8:47 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just the stuff Conny Larsson, Billy Clayton, Rob McCutchean, and others said. Most of it is in the Sexy Sadie file. Rick, when do you think we'll find out about this? She wants to talk with me. I can't guarantee she'll let me post anything here. Also is she married? Is now; wasn't then. H. Someone involved in the TMO for a long time. Worked on International Staff probably, hence the contact with MMY. If she lives in Ffld I probably know who it is. More of a guess, but if it is her, it will blow everyone's mind. MMY's type too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits At MUM women often hold high administrative positions, but never top ones. ---That sounded kinky. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
Rick, when do you think we'll find out about this?Also is she married?---She only likes men with huge egos. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
For whatever my puny opinion is worth, I personally think it would be for the good if everyone just let this be. If the woman/women want to come forward voluntarily let them. Otherwise, at this point, why stir the pot any longer? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 8:47 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just the stuff Conny Larsson, Billy Clayton, Rob McCutchean, and others said. Most of it is in the Sexy Sadie file. Rick, when do you think we'll find out about this? She wants to talk with me. I can't guarantee she'll let me post anything here. Also is she married? Is now; wasn't then. H. Someone involved in the TMO for a long time. Worked on International Staff probably, hence the contact with MMY. If she lives in Ffld I probably know who it is. More of a guess, but if it is her, it will blow everyone's mind. MMY's type too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 2:45 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole thing seems unlikely. If MMY was so out-of-control as to have had multiple affairs, it seems likely that this thing would have been common knowledge throughout the TMO from day one, and not a rumor. There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected source, which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but you'll probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower. Someone YOU respect, at least... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For whatever my puny opinion is worth, I personally think it would be for the good if everyone just let this be. If the woman/women want to come forward voluntarily let them. Otherwise, at this point, why stir the pot any longer? Why indeed? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 5:45 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most likely to tease poster: Nominating Mr. Archer Yeah, he's a regular Sheharezade I'll cop to that, but I'm not familiar with the term and Google doesn't help. Perhaps because I've spelled it wrong. Sheharezade was the wife of a sheik in the 1,001 Arabian Nights who married a new wife every day and then killed her in the morning. Sheharezade's solution to not being killed was to tell the Sheik a wonderful story every night but to leave out the ending so that he wouldn't kill her in the morning because he had to wait until the night for her to give the ending which she would then start in on a new story that night and, again, leave out the ending. that way she outlived the king. I was calling you that because you're making us wait -): To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 6:29 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/2/05 5:45 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most likely to tease poster: Nominating Mr. Archer Yeah, he's a regular Sheharezade I'll cop to that, but I'm not familiar with the term and Google doesn't help. Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheherazade (The name is a transliteration from the Arabic, so it's spelled several different ways.) I see. So he thinks I'm making up stories. Whatever. No...the analogy was to the waiting and keeping the listener in suspense until some later date... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits and outlandish schemes.
I think that MMY knows these outlandish schemes wont get achieved time after time year after year , but in effect it is some technique for his true believer type die hard followers. I am not one and get angry when these relative goals dont occur and dont really want to be a part to this cult anymore that follows a master no matter what he says whether it happens on the relative plane or not but I have to belive he knows what he is doing and it gets his followers to know his wishes and to strive for them as goals. If not then he would be so angry at everything we had not done or achieved by now he would have shut us down a long time ago way before England. Hopefully someone tells him we dont even have 500 in the domes period no less to fly and 2,000 to live in Vedic City is our Ru population or not even with everyone doing other techniques etc and we are not leaving our mortgage homes for some prefab structure. It will be great for renters. So I think he gives the weak followers who cant think for themselves these projects so that they have some path and for the rest of us who can think for ourselves we dont need that master thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the Pillow Talk with the Great Man consisted of him bashing everyone who was willing to work for him because they were so gullible? Sounds to me like there's another gullible person posting in this exchange... Here's Rick's question and the answer to it, in two short posts. Gullibility is having made the decision to believe someone, and believe in someone, no matter what. It renders one incapable of even hearing something other than what the authority has said. Does Maharishi play with this, knowing that his followers have lost their ability to discriminate? Well, duh. I can't address whether or not MMY said these things or whether or not he was having sex with the woman, but I CAN suggest that it would be rather odd to have sex with a guru- worshiper and inform her that he didn't respect the guru- worshipers... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some here have wondered about Maharishi1s motives in fostering his increasingly bizarre schemes. Tallest buildings, rajas, etc. Some say he1s upping the weirdness ante in order to motivate people to leave and think for themselves. Others say his vision is far ahead of the rest of the world and he1s establishing the foundation of an enlightened society. Here1s another theory. When Jennifer was in M1s room late at night in Mallorca (for reasons we need not re-hash) she said he often derided the Westerners as gullible fools for believing all the things he was telling them (hence, our dear, already-enlightened co-moderator1s handle). Perhaps, like a playground bully, he has a cynical streak that causes him to derive pleasure from making fools out of people. Perhaps, as with any addiction, he has had to keep increasing the weirdness ante in order to continue gratifying this streak. If there is any truth to this theory, I wouldn1t assume this was his only motivation. He1s a master at incorporating paradoxical tendencies. I would suggest that plenty of altruism is mixed with the cynicism. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--Yes, we are all here to wake up and help our fellows to wake to wake up too/ A Course in Miracles, goes as far as to say that we are assigned certain people to wake up and certain people are assigned to wake us up... - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. What would be scary if Bevan and the Rajas were not tools of Brahman. Then we would be in the metaphysical and spiritual twilight zone. Creation is not just about flowers blooming and perpetual spring. Its also summer fall and winter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. What would be scary if Bevan and the Rajas were not tools of Brahman. Then we would be in the metaphysical and spiritual twilight zone. Creation is not just about flowers blooming and perpetual spring. Its also summer fall and winter. In that case, we're not granting any special status to MMY when we say he is a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman, and there's no reason to demand to know when Brahman is going to awaken some of his people. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. What would be scary if Bevan and the Rajas were not tools of Brahman. Then we would be in the metaphysical and spiritual twilight zone. Creation is not just about flowers blooming and perpetual spring. Its also summer fall and winter. In that case, we're not granting any special status to MMY when we say he is a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman, One answer could be Exactly! Another might be, Some tools are power tools, some are hand tools, some are made by Catepillar http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=37840x=7 and there's no reason to demand to know when Brahman is going to awaken some of his people. Not sure what that means. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
and there's no reason to demand to know when Brahman is going to awaken some of his people. I'm certainly not demanding. In fact, my question So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people?, was a rhetorical question. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. What would be scary if Bevan and the Rajas were not tools of Brahman. Then we would be in the metaphysical and spiritual twilight zone. Creation is not just about flowers blooming and perpetual spring. Its also summer fall and winter. In that case, we're not granting any special status to MMY when we say he is a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman, and there's no reason to demand to know when Brahman is going to awaken some of his people. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. What would be scary if Bevan and the Rajas were not tools of Brahman. Then we would be in the metaphysical and spiritual twilight zone. Creation is not just about flowers blooming and perpetual spring. Its also summer fall and winter. In that case, we're not granting any special status to MMY when we say he is a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman, One answer could be Exactly! Another might be, Some tools are power tools, some are hand tools, some are made by Catepillar http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=37840x=7 and there's no reason to demand to know when Brahman is going to awaken some of his people. Not sure what that means. Look up at the very top, the second paragraph. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and there's no reason to demand to know when Brahman is going to awaken some of his people. I'm certainly not demanding. In fact, my question So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people?, was a rhetorical question. Sort of like, Why do bad things happen to good people? --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it has multiple effects on people. He's a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman. So, when is Brahman going to actually awaken some of his people? The awful thing is, if we assume MMY is a tool of Brahman, we no longer have any basis for assuming folks like Bevan and the rajas aren't also tools of Brahman. Everyone, everything is a tool of Brahman, of Santana Dharma, of Nature. We are all delivering karma and absorbing karma, in the big multi-dimensional, galactic, interactive pin ball game called creation. What would be scary if Bevan and the Rajas were not tools of Brahman. Then we would be in the metaphysical and spiritual twilight zone. Creation is not just about flowers blooming and perpetual spring. Its also summer fall and winter. In that case, we're not granting any special status to MMY when we say he is a tool of Brahman to awaken Brahman, and there's no reason to demand to know when Brahman is going to awaken some of his people. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits
So the Pillow Talk with the Great Man consisted of him bashing everyone who was willing to work for him because they were so gullible? Sounds to me like there's another gullible person posting in this exchange... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some here have wondered about Maharishi¹s motives in fostering his increasingly bizarre schemes. Tallest buildings, rajas, etc. Some say he¹s upping the weirdness ante in order to motivate people to leave and think for themselves. Others say his vision is far ahead of the rest of the world and he¹s establishing the foundation of an enlightened society. Here¹s another theory. When Jennifer was in M¹s room late at night in Mallorca (for reasons we need not re-hash) she said he often derided the Westerners as gullible fools for believing all the things he was telling them (hence, our dear, already-enlightened co-moderator¹s handle). Perhaps, like a playground bully, he has a cynical streak that causes him to derive pleasure from making fools out of people. Perhaps, as with any addiction, he has had to keep increasing the weirdness ante in order to continue gratifying this streak. If there is any truth to this theory, I wouldn¹t assume this was his only motivation. He¹s a master at incorporating paradoxical tendencies. I would suggest that plenty of altruism is mixed with the cynicism. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/