Re: Tiger without Appletalk issues

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 17, 2005, at 3:49 PM, David Lesher wrote:




A solution for Mac OS 7 and 8 is Shareway IP.

http://www.opendoor.com/shareway/




Wonder if it is more stable than the Apple solution??


Apple's solution IS Sharway IP, so probably not.

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Re: Tiger without Appletalk issues

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 17/06/05 22:51, Jeff Hubatka at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Jun 17, 2005, at 4:25 PM, G-Books wrote:
> 
>> First are my printers. Both are Apple printers: LaserWriter 16/600
>> PS and
>> Color StyleWriter 1500. The StyleWriter was never supported by OSX
>> even though
>> I have it hooked to my ethernet network with another Apple product
>> (Apple
>> StyleWriter Ethernet Adapter) which works great in OS9.x and
>> earlier. Is there
>> any way to keep this as a viable printer on my network?
>> 
>> The LaserWriter has just recently become a problem and only because
>> Tiger dose
>> not support AppleTalk. Dose anyone make third party software to
>> support this
>> printer over an ethernet network? Or can I hook this computer into
>> a print
>> server and go around the Appletalk issue?
> 
> The 16/600 supports IP printing, that's how I have mine set up via
> ethernet. You can manually set a IP address using the LaserWriter
> Utility from OS9 or Classic, then just set it up in Print Center.

Mine is configure for AppleTalk over Ethernet. I think the part that is now
missing is file sharing over AppleTalk. Tiger supports only AppleTalk over
TCP/IP for file sharing.

-Laurent.
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Re: Lombard snags, L2 cache failure message

[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

>> There were also cases reported where the Lombard processor was
>> turning bad at some point.
>
> true, the dreaded L2 cache failure, I suppose... That's why
> I sort of cross my fingers every time something weird happens!

Oh boy, a question I can answer!
You'll know it if the L2 cache goes.
In 9.2.2 after the 9.2 splash screen you get a error message that says
"the built in memory test has detected a problem with cache memory. 
Please contact a service technician for assistance"

Maybe it should be updated to say "please contact Daystar for assistance"

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Re: Tiger without Appletalk issues

[Jeff Hubatka]

On Jun 17, 2005, at 4:25 PM, G-Books wrote:

First are my printers. Both are Apple printers: LaserWriter 16/600  
PS and
Color StyleWriter 1500. The StyleWriter was never supported by OSX  
even though
I have it hooked to my ethernet network with another Apple product  
(Apple
StyleWriter Ethernet Adapter) which works great in OS9.x and  
earlier. Is there

any way to keep this as a viable printer on my network?

The LaserWriter has just recently become a problem and only because  
Tiger dose
not support AppleTalk. Dose anyone make third party software to  
support this
printer over an ethernet network? Or can I hook this computer into  
a print

server and go around the Appletalk issue?


The 16/600 supports IP printing, that's how I have mine set up via  
ethernet. You can manually set a IP address using the LaserWriter  
Utility from OS9 or Classic, then just set it up in Print Center.


As for your older computers, they can connect up to Tiger via IP. You  
just can't connect from Tiger down.


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Re: troubleshooting G4 15" long distance...

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 17/06/05 21:05, Dan O'Donnell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Jun 9, 2005, at 6:30 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I still use my Newton. I check on NewtonTalk from time to time
>> but it
>> doesn't seem like much is happening anymore. It's still the same
>> messages
>> and questions over and over...
>> 
>> -Laurent.
> 
> I discovered that too awhile ago.
>   Have the Newton users migrated to a different list, or is interest
> finally dying out?

I don't think users migrated to another list because NewtonTalk has always,
and is still, when maintained. From what I've seen, there is a constant flow
of new people asking the same new questions and those that used to be new
will then answer. From time to time, you'll get a reply or a post from one
of the best known people like Paul Guyot or Victor Rehorst but at the time I
checked, they were not posting very often...

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Re: 2400c-190 battery?

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 17/06/05 19:39, Dan O'Donnell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> A neighbor has just discovered that I know a little about Macs and
> asked me about her machine. Turns out it's a 2400c/190. Problem is that
> it's losing date and time, and so I assume the small battery that holds
> PRAM settings is dead. (Assuming the 2400c is like old desktop
> machines.)
> 
> Is this a safe assumption?
> If so, where is this battery located, and is it user-replaceable?

You might get more replies if you ask this question on the regular PowerBook
list. There also used to be a specific 2400 list from somebody else.

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Re: troubleshooting G4 15" long distance...

[Dan O'Donnell]

On Jun 9, 2005, at 6:30 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

Yes, I still use my Newton. I check on NewtonTalk from time to time 
but it
doesn't seem like much is happening anymore. It's still the same 
messages

and questions over and over...

-Laurent.


I discovered that too awhile ago.
 Have the Newton users migrated to a different list, or is interest 
finally dying out?



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sick Lombard

[R Michael Vogt]

Hi all I ask about this the other day but found few more things about  
it Lombard is G3 400 512 of ram it has Panther 10.39
 what its doing is it will start up to a point the right before you  
get to the Blue screen then quits  I notiis that top processor was  
very hot I'm not sure if that is normal but when freeze up you can  
get it to anything for a day then it will do that again .
I know the HD is fine I took it out test it with disk warrior it had  
few problems  fix them

any ideas


Michael & Sharon  Vogt <><


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Re: Lombard snags [signed]

[themacuser]

And besides, we don't need someone to give us a link, do we?

We know how to google, don't we?

Well, we figured out how to get the right computer.

On 17/06/2005, at 11:07 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:



on 17/06/05 01:55, Michael J. Amato [c] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I aplogize. Is the ban on service manuals infinite ie is there a  
cutoff
point for age of model? I took my Lombard to a local Mac shop and  
they

wouldn't try to repair it saying they can't get parts anymore.




Hmmm, Dan never mentioned any cutoff date so I would say the ban is
permanent. Sorry, I didn't come up with this!

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Re: Tiger without Appletalk issues

[Dan O'Donnell]

On Jun 17, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Tim Collier wrote:

I have an option to turn on Appletalk and I'm using 10.4.  What are 
you talking about?


In system preferences click on network and then on the adapter and 
you'll see an Appletalk tab.


Tim
On Friday, June 17, 2005, at 05:46PM, pegleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


I am sending this out to several lists because it is an issue that 
effects

many Mac users and business owners when they upgrade to Tiger.

Now that Appletalk has been removed from OSX Tiger, I am looking for 
solutions
for my older equipment. I would love to here any and all suggestions. 
I
imagine many others will be facing this problem as well when they 
upgrade to

Tiger.



I believe he may also have to turn on AppleTalk in Directory Services.


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2400c-190 battery?

[Dan O'Donnell]

A neighbor has just discovered that I know a little about Macs and 
asked me about her machine. Turns out it's a 2400c/190. Problem is that 
it's losing date and time, and so I assume the small battery that holds 
PRAM settings is dead. (Assuming the 2400c is like old desktop 
machines.)


Is this a safe assumption?
If so, where is this battery located, and is it user-replaceable?

Thanks,

Dan


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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 17, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Michael J. Amato [c] wrote:



Please remember all the hoopla about Apple shifting to Unix with OSX.
Cries of doomsday and a big Wass'up.


90% of the people I know were not calling doomsday, but more like  
'YeeeHAW!!! ABOUT FREAKIN'TIME!!!'






There seems to be a wider horizon opening up. Intel is a chip  
making company

period. IBM had so little expertise they had to sell their computer
manufacturing unit.


This isn't 'so little expertise' this was a recognition that IBM  
isn't in the commodity PC business. IBM's laptops are widely regarded  
as some of the best built in the industry. It's just an industry on a  
race to the bottom, lead by Dell.



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Re: Automatic Network Connection.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 17, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Karen Thompson wrote:


Hello all,

I'm having the very same problem on my PowerBook G4 17". I either  
have to
log out, shut down or go to Network preferences and do diagnostics  
to get it
working again. It's really wonky and I'm never sure which of these  
methods
will fix the problem. A real annoyance. The G3 iBook and the G4  
Sawtooth are
both running OX 10.3.9 on the same Apple Airport network with no  
problem.

Maybe this is a bug in Tiger.


If it's a bug in Tiger, it's not a universal one. I'm not having this  
problem with my system.


Possibly trash the airport prefs, or delete the airport entries from  
your keychain?


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Re: Tiger without Appletalk issues

[David Lesher]

Have you tried this. From Macintouch

Tiger refuses to work with some older Macs sharing files, saying "This file
server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You cannot connect
to it." You can check "Enable File Sharing clients to connect over TCP/IP"
in the File Sharing control panel of Mac OS 9. See KB 106461.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106461#sec4



This is a half-truth AFP worked at first over Appletalk, then 
later over TCP/IP.

{Actually... I think it first worked over Localtalk...}

The above turns on TCP/IP on OS9, period. No help on pre-9 boxes.

BUT...

I have a truckload of ADN bug reports on file over the resulting 
instability issue. If you have an OS9 box serving over TCP/IP and X.2 
or .3 {and maybe X.4, who knows...} desktops. the sharing session 
terminates every 90 seconds or so if idle.


Apple denied it was happening, then admitted it then was an issue, 
THEN promised "Just Buy Jaguar" and then when they was no help; 
"Duplicate Report" {i.e. others have already bitched and we're 
ignoring them too...}





A solution for Mac OS 7 and 8 is Shareway IP.

http://www.opendoor.com/shareway/



Wonder if it is more stable than the Apple solution??

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Re: Fax programs for Tiger

[Aaron Willems]

There's a Fax program built in Tiger. Select the Apple Menu and scroll down
to System Preference. open it. Select Print & Fax. In there you can set up
your computer to send and receive faxes. Requires you have an analog line
and printer.

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> 
> I would love to have a fax program that I could use just to be able
> to send and receive the occasional fax on my Mac.  I certainly don't
> fax enough to justify buying a Fax machine - although it seems Faxstf
> pro is almost as expensive as buying one !
> 
> Are there any decent OX Fax programs for Tiger that are a little
> cheaper than Faxstf Pro and work sufficiently for the occasional fax
> that anybody here has tried and can recommend ?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have,
> 
> Amber
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Fax programs for Tiger

[Amber]

Hi,

I would love to have a fax program that I could use just to be able  
to send and receive the occasional fax on my Mac.  I certainly don't  
fax enough to justify buying a Fax machine - although it seems Faxstf  
pro is almost as expensive as buying one !


Are there any decent OX Fax programs for Tiger that are a little  
cheaper than Faxstf Pro and work sufficiently for the occasional fax  
that anybody here has tried and can recommend ?


Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have,

Amber

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Re: gamepad/controller for Tiger

[Ruffin Bailey]

>> I am looking for a gamepad/controller for my Al PB which is   
>> compatible with Tiger.  I do have the Macally iShock II but can't   
>> find a driver for it that will work in Tiger.
>>
>> Any suggestions would really be appreciated - I'd like to use it   
>> with Halo and a few other games.

Give ControllerMate a shot (http://www.orderedbytes.com/controllermate/).  
It might be a little on the processor intensive side at times, but depending
on what you're playing, might let you use the iShock without a problem.  The
author is awfully responsive if you find bugs, and added support for my 
Gravis Gamepad within a week or so of me requesting it!

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Re: Tiger without Appletalk issues

[Tim Collier]

I have an option to turn on Appletalk and I'm using 10.4.  What are you talking 
about?

In system preferences click on network and then on the adapter and you'll see 
an Appletalk tab.

Tim 
On Friday, June 17, 2005, at 05:46PM, pegleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I am sending this out to several lists because it is an issue that effects
>many Mac users and business owners when they upgrade to Tiger.
>
>Now that Appletalk has been removed from OSX Tiger, I am looking for solutions
>for my older equipment. I would love to here any and all suggestions. I
>imagine many others will be facing this problem as well when they upgrade to
>Tiger.
>
>First are my printers. Both are Apple printers: LaserWriter 16/600 PS and
>Color StyleWriter 1500. The StyleWriter was never supported by OSX even though
>I have it hooked to my ethernet network with another Apple product (Apple
>StyleWriter Ethernet Adapter) which works great in OS9.x and earlier. Is there
>any way to keep this as a viable printer on my network?
>
>The LaserWriter has just recently become a problem and only because Tiger dose
>not support AppleTalk. Dose anyone make third party software to support this
>printer over an ethernet network? Or can I hook this computer into a print
>server and go around the Appletalk issue?
>
>Lastly I have several Macs that do not support Appletalk IP. One the Quadra
>630(ATA), I have been using as a file server (small Mac that uses little power
>when left on 24/7.) I would really like to see these in Tiger. Is there
>software that will help: Timbuktu, VNC or another that will allow me to see
>the hard drive and transfer files? Any suggestions may be helpful?
>
>Opinion and gripe coming.
>
>Ok, why did Apple decide to leave AppleTalk out of Tiger? I know it is an old
>and wordy protocol but it has been the networking standard on Macs for 20
>years. This legacy solves many a problem for small business and home owners. I
>can understand that Apple wouldn't want to support third party legacy products
>but these are all Apple brand and Apple created equipment and protocols.
>Leaving Appletalk out is a slap in the face to long time Apple users who have
>supported them with purchases over the years.
>
>Personally, I think Apple should keep straight AppleTalk as an option as a
>show of support for their long time supporters and businesses.
>
>At the very least Apple should release Appletalk into the public domain so
>someone can write an open source implementation for those who need it.
>
>Bob Titus
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Re: Lombard snags [signed]

[Francesco sciacca]

> I am in high level talks with my banker, my husband the DELL user,
> regarding
> the funds to do the upgrade  Michael J. Amato suggested at
> Daystar...

this looks as an interesting option, although the price is what it is. By 
all means do a little research before shelling out. Some previous upgrade 
options from other vendors simply didn't work as hoped and advertised.

I'll be keeping an eye on it, in the hope that santa claus would know 
where to get one for me!

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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[darm0k]

At 09:09 PM -0700 06/16/2005, Zoltan Batiz wrote:


I have come to a very logical and realistic conclusion:

The proverbial gap between PC's and Mac's will not change.  In fact, 
I honestly think that NOTHING will change at all.


The Mac's market share will decrease, just like it did during the 
68k->PPC and 9->X transitions.  Partly because of hesitant buyers and 
partly because of developers being jerked around - which looses 
marketing momentum.  Hopefully, Intel's influence (and the fact that 
they pay for marketing) will encourage Apple to create a decent ad 
campaign. (LOL; yea right).


hum. A new potential here - Apple could regain market share because 
they'll be able to get enough chips to make more systems.  Currently, 
they loose way too many sales because they're unable to deliver.


Call me an optimist, but the only thing that's going to happen 
besides faster Macs overall,


Faster is a given, as technologies improve.  The issue is "faster than"

Up side is that people will be able to compare GHz to GHz.

The down side is that we're totally going to loose the AltaVec edge. 
So Macs will rarely (just the brief frog hop at release time) be 
faster than PCs.


...Headache: What if Dell scoops Apple?  What if Dell's cycle time 
(design to market) is shorter than Apple's?  Intel commits to 
high-volume of a faster chip, and Dell's product hits the market 
before Apple's...  :(


Pretty design (and perhaps higher cost for Macs) aside, IMO, it will 
ultimately become a direct user experience competition, OS X vs 
Windows.  I fear that even with a faster Virtual PC running Windows, 
we'll still be marginalized due to the low app count and other 
perceptions.


Anyone agree?  Or is everyone leaning on Laporte's side saying that 
"this move is a stake in Apple's heart"


I think Apple will survive, barely.  Only time will tell.

Luckily, the Low End Mac market is thriving.  Prices are good. 
Supply is decent.  Expertise abounds...


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Re: Another good article regarding Apple and Intel

[darm0k]

At 11:37 PM -0400 06/16/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 05:26 PM -0700 06/16/2005, Bruce Johnson wrote:

On Jun 16, 2005, at 4:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*nod*  A combo that lets them create system architectures that 
aren't dictated  and dumbed down by MS.  What a concept.  :)


Yes and no. MS doesn't dictate hardware or system architectures. So 
long as drivers are there MS windows could run on anything.


Uh, waitamin.  I gotta research, but I remember reading about 
Microsoft maintaining a rather long/detailed specification as to 
what a PC is and how it has to work, and that Intel balked at their 
newest revisions, but dummied up as MS controlled everything.


Oh yea.  Google is your friend.  Hundreds of pages, on Microsoft's 
developer web site for the PC 95, PC 97, etc specifications.  In 
html, they have glossy overviews.  For OEMs, they have hardcore 
details in pdf and ppt.  It goes way deep into the hardware level. 
Basically: a PC simply must conform to their specs.  MS maintains 
full rights over those specs.  If the PC doesn't conform, it "cannot" 
be supported by Windows.  It's all even updated for Longhorn.


Now, don't misunderstand my point here.  Apple has the same types of 
spec docs, they're just targetted a bit differently since there are 
no outside designers.  But because Apple is using these as comms 
between their own OS and hardware teams, I think it tends to be more 
of a living document ... that will be able to include the latest and 
greatest...


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Re: Tiger without Appletalk issues

[Aaron Willems]

Have you tried this. From Macintouch

Tiger refuses to work with some older Macs sharing files, saying "This file
server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You cannot connect
to it." You can check "Enable File Sharing clients to connect over TCP/IP"
in the File Sharing control panel of Mac OS 9. See KB 106461.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106461#sec4

A solution for Mac OS 7 and 8 is Shareway IP.

http://www.opendoor.com/shareway/

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Re: Lombard snags [signed]

[Francesco sciacca]

> > Lombard with OS 9.2 is a great machine
> 
> There were also cases reported where the Lombard processor was turning 
bad
> at some point.

true, the dreaded L2 cache failure, I suppose... That's why I sort of 
cross my fingers every time something weird happens! (which luckily isn't 
much often since a long time). So far so good (more finger crossing...)

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Re: Tiger without Appletalk issues

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 17/06/05 17:48, "pegleg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> First are my printers. Both are Apple printers: LaserWriter 16/600 PS and
> Color StyleWriter 1500. The StyleWriter was never supported by OSX even though
> I have it hooked to my ethernet network with another Apple product (Apple
> StyleWriter Ethernet Adapter) which works great in OS9.x and earlier. Is there
> any way to keep this as a viable printer on my network?
> 
> The LaserWriter has just recently become a problem and only because Tiger dose
> not support AppleTalk. Dose anyone make third party software to support this
> printer over an ethernet network? Or can I hook this computer into a print
> server and go around the Appletalk issue?

Ugh? I have the exact same LaserWriter, the 16/600 PS and I can still print
to it while in Tiger.

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Tiger without Appletalk issues

[pegleg]

I am sending this out to several lists because it is an issue that effects
many Mac users and business owners when they upgrade to Tiger.

Now that Appletalk has been removed from OSX Tiger, I am looking for solutions
for my older equipment. I would love to here any and all suggestions. I
imagine many others will be facing this problem as well when they upgrade to
Tiger.

First are my printers. Both are Apple printers: LaserWriter 16/600 PS and
Color StyleWriter 1500. The StyleWriter was never supported by OSX even though
I have it hooked to my ethernet network with another Apple product (Apple
StyleWriter Ethernet Adapter) which works great in OS9.x and earlier. Is there
any way to keep this as a viable printer on my network?

The LaserWriter has just recently become a problem and only because Tiger dose
not support AppleTalk. Dose anyone make third party software to support this
printer over an ethernet network? Or can I hook this computer into a print
server and go around the Appletalk issue?

Lastly I have several Macs that do not support Appletalk IP. One the Quadra
630(ATA), I have been using as a file server (small Mac that uses little power
when left on 24/7.) I would really like to see these in Tiger. Is there
software that will help: Timbuktu, VNC or another that will allow me to see
the hard drive and transfer files? Any suggestions may be helpful?

Opinion and gripe coming.

Ok, why did Apple decide to leave AppleTalk out of Tiger? I know it is an old
and wordy protocol but it has been the networking standard on Macs for 20
years. This legacy solves many a problem for small business and home owners. I
can understand that Apple wouldn't want to support third party legacy products
but these are all Apple brand and Apple created equipment and protocols.
Leaving Appletalk out is a slap in the face to long time Apple users who have
supported them with purchases over the years.

Personally, I think Apple should keep straight AppleTalk as an option as a
show of support for their long time supporters and businesses.

At the very least Apple should release Appletalk into the public domain so
someone can write an open source implementation for those who need it.

Bob Titus


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Re: Automatic Network Connection.

[Karen Thompson]

Thanks. I'll be right on that.

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Re: Automatic Network Connection.

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 17/06/05 16:13, "Karen Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I'm having the very same problem on my PowerBook G4 17". I either have to
> log out, shut down or go to Network preferences and do diagnostics to get it
> working again. It's really wonky and I'm never sure which of these methods
> will fix the problem. A real annoyance. The G3 iBook and the G4 Sawtooth are
> both running OX 10.3.9 on the same Apple Airport network with no problem.
> Maybe this is a bug in Tiger.

I replied earlier today about a hint on MacOSXHints that I've read where if
you upgrade from Panther directly to Tiger, you lose the ability to choose
"Automatic" for your network in the AirPort tab of the Network preference
pane. I haven't paid much attention to the hint since I don't have this
problem, but the hint apparently describes how to bring back that
functionality.

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Re: Automatic Network Connection.

[Karen Thompson]

Hello all,

I'm having the very same problem on my PowerBook G4 17". I either have to
log out, shut down or go to Network preferences and do diagnostics to get it
working again. It's really wonky and I'm never sure which of these methods
will fix the problem. A real annoyance. The G3 iBook and the G4 Sawtooth are
both running OX 10.3.9 on the same Apple Airport network with no problem.
Maybe this is a bug in Tiger.

Can someone help us?

Thanks.

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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[sacear3]

Zoltan,

I think your conclusion, from your analysis, is an accurate assessment. 
I also think that assessment is similar among those of this list. 
Additionally, that the message of your conclusion is very similar to 
messages previously posted to this list. So my analysis of your thought 
on the subject leads me to conclude with the assessment that the 
posters to this list generally are in accord about the issue of Apple 
switching to Intel, that it's no big deal, or that is is no where near 
as big a deal as some people are making it out to be. Apple Macs will 
be Apple Macs, no matter what CPU is in the system. Apple Macs will 
still be on the leading edge of design and be a cut above PCs.


[the following is humor, so please take this salt shaker before 
reading] :-)
So, Zoltan, were glad you caught up with us. Welcome to the party! Oh, 
and there is still plenty of hors d'oeuvres and refreshments. Hmmnf, 
delicious. So please, help yourself. Those Motorola chips over there 
are pretty good, [in a whisper] but they're about to go stale, so be 
forewarned. [resume full voice] Oh, and the crow isn't that bad 
actually. Tastes kind of like chicken. ;-)


Have a great weekend all!

Best regards,
Scott


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Subject: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:09:09 -0700

Hello All,

I just had to add one more thought on this subject, and wanted to see
if anyone agrees.  After reading all the input from this invaluable
list group, and listening to the radio (Leo Laporte has said some VERY
interesting things when it comes to Apple moving to Intel on AM 640),
and reading all the relevant articles in mags I have come to a very
logical and realistic conclusion:

The proverbial gap between PC's and Mac's will not change.  In fact, I
honestly think that NOTHING will change at all.  Call me an optimist,
but the only thing that's going to happen besides faster Macs overall,
is that one day a PC user will be going over to his/her old friends
house who happens to be a Mac user and that Mac user will tell his/her
PC user, "hey did you know that my Mac has an Intel designed
processor?"  The astonished PC user will just be that. . .astonished.
Then they'll go about their business.  I expect nothing more, nothing
less.  Macs will still be "just above" PC's, PC's will still dominate
the business world, and Mac's will still dominate the design world.

Anyone agree?  Or is everyone leaning on Laporte's side saying that
"this move is a stake in Apple's heart"


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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?! [signed]

[Michael J. Amato [c]]

Please remember all the hoopla about Apple shifting to Unix with OSX.
Cries of doomsday and a big Wass'up.

Apple shifting to an open system???

It's all been uphill pretty much.

The biggest problem Apple had with Motorola/IBM was delivering a faster chip
for their laptops, one of the bigger selling sectors.

There seems to be a wider horizon opening up. Intel is a chip making company
period. IBM had so little expertise they had to sell their computer
manufacturing unit. Remember IBM was responsible for Microsoft, practically
giving them DOS, figuring it wasn't worth much and clearing the way for BG
and crew to monopolize the OS for pc's.

Open vistas ahead, maybe even getting game for Mac!

I'm sure this is a well thought strategy for the future.
Hang on for the ride.
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Re: Is Apple really moving to x86 architechture?!

[Larry le Mac]

From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



I just had to add one more thought on this subject,
and wanted to see if anyone agrees.



I agree with you Zoltan.

I think anyone who thinks in the lines of a Mac becoming
just another PC box because the CPU is made by Intel is
more than just a little ignorant of the whole situation.

Your visualisation was very good IMO.


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Re: Lombard snags [signed]

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 17/06/05 01:55, Michael J. Amato [c] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I aplogize. Is the ban on service manuals infinite ie is there a cutoff
> point for age of model? I took my Lombard to a local Mac shop and they
> wouldn't try to repair it saying they can't get parts anymore.

Hmmm, Dan never mentioned any cutoff date so I would say the ban is
permanent. Sorry, I didn't come up with this!

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Airport Snow print sharing

[Frank Cornew]

I can print very well from my Pismo running Tiger via an airport snow 
base station's USB port to an epson 740.


I am curious as to whether and how I can print to this printer from a 
TAM running OS 9.2.2 that is hooked up to the base station's LAN port.


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Re: Lombard snags [signed]

[Kristina]

on 6/17/05 6:18 AM, Francesco sciacca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> I really wanted it to just work at the OS 9.2. level as my kajillion apps of
>> graphics software match that system.

> I own and use a Lombard since 6 years and in my experience, in the pre-OS X
> days, random freezes and/or crashes were predominantly due to conflicting
> extensions (third party stuff) and lousy freeware randomly installed.

Dear  cheery, gianfranco,

I am in high level talks with my banker, my husband the DELL user, regarding
the funds to do the upgrade  Michael J. Amato suggested at Daystar...sending
it to a tech tho more (pricey for me) ...might be less. Then the techs there
can make the daughterboard et al sit down or  seat well.

I just don't want to get too far down the tech road and find I have left my
vintage graphics programs behind.  I really liked the OS 8.6 days when I was
working (sort of) ..but my digital camera doesn't...so I was finally forced
to upgrade to a mere 9.2.2 here in the rustic backfields of Indiana...and
the G-Books list is my only line to technology...unless i go into Chicago
and I haven't a clue where that would be...

On the other hand my AGFA Studio Star  scanner, has become con fused and
won't rest after trying to calibrate, I guess it has become well...insane.

 So I am looking to  replace that old friend with either:
 Epson 2580Photo Flatbed Scanner with auto film loader
or
Canon  CanoScan LiDE 500F Color Image Scanner

I am well aware of the delicate symbiotic relationships of  extensions...and
I am thinking what 
> (third party stuff) and lousy freeware randomly installed.
have I installed. its not much, as I just replaced the hard drive and loaded
just  the necessary internet progams, Netscape 7.04 and IE 5.0, Photoshop
4.0, Word 6, Quark 4, my Canon i6000 printer and the Olympus camera...ok
BarFly a ABC music notation reader/decoder...but we need that, we play
fiddles here on the back porch.

³In order to seek one¹s own direction, one must simplify the mechanics of
ordinary, everyday life.² -Plato

preach it Plato!

> I would suggest (if you pass ...you just back up your data and re-install the
> OS afresh,
ack! and this was summer!

> Lombard with OS 9.2 is a great machine,
so they say

Thanks for your  advice
trying to be cheery
Kristina


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Re: Lombard snags

[Kristina]

on 6/17/05 1:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am not sure I remember OS 9 clearly anymore.

This is the trouble,  at the design studio where I used to work,  my old
friend  has forgotten most of OS 9.  Its called overload.

but thanks for the  control panels how to...

I came, I saw , I conquered, I forgot.
Kristina


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Re: Lombard snags [signed]

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 17/06/05 07:18, Francesco sciacca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip!]
> Lombard with OS 9.2 is a great machine, Finder is way more responsive than
> my 1 GHz Titanium running Panther and graphics apps work a charm (at least
> on mine, 333 MHz, 384 MB RAM)

There were also cases reported where the Lombard processor was turning bad
at some point.

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Re: Lombard snags [signed]

[Francesco sciacca]

> I really wanted it to just work at the OS 9.2. level as my kajillion apps
> of
> graphics software match that system...and I can do all I want at that
> level...i even still use a pencil to draw.

> > As a former Lombard owner I can empathize. It had a serious flaw on wake
> up
> > and was known as the "sleep of death". It would be worth it to send it

I own and use a Lombard since 6 years and in my experience, in the pre-OS X
days, random freezes and/or crashes were predominantly due to conflicting
extensions (third party stuff) and lousy freeware randomly installed.

Temporary instabilities also in the sleep/non-slpeep/wake-from-sleep
department were also in my case due to the same reason.

If you want to tackle your case, you should firstly make sure to the best
extent that the basics of the hardware seems ok. That is, as previously
suggested, make sure that RAM cards (both), processor daughtercard, hard
drive cable, are all properly seated. After that, you have to go through the
painstaking process of sorting out extensions and control panels:

1) Boot the Lombard with all extension off (pressing the space-bar? I can't
remember...). Run like that, chek for freezes. If not:

2) Use the "Extension Manager" control panel and select "OS 9 only", or
something along these lines. Run like that, chek for freezes. If not:

3) Add, one by one (or a few at the time, again from the "Extension Manager"
control panel) additional extensions, taking care of not selecting anything
you do not strictly need for your work. Run like that, etc

Since this this process will take you some time, I would suggest (if you
pass step 1) and possibly 2)), you just back up your data and re-install the
OS afresh, after which, make sure you install only the stuff you strictly
need for your work. Of course there's also the chance of some hardware
fault, but it's advisable you get your software sorted first, unless you
have the bits and pieces to check the hardware (like spare RAM, etc...)

Lombard with OS 9.2 is a great machine, Finder is way more responsive than
my 1 GHz Titanium running Panther and graphics apps work a charm (at least
on mine, 333 MHz, 384 MB RAM)

cheers,
gianfranco

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Re: gamepad/controller for Tiger

[John McGibney]

On Jun 17, 2005, at 1:09 AM, Amber wrote:


Hi,

I am looking for a gamepad/controller for my Al PB which is  
compatible with Tiger.  I do have the Macally iShock II but can't  
find a driver for it that will work in Tiger.


Any suggestions would really be appreciated - I'd like to use it  
with Halo and a few other games.


Thanks,

Amber

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Automatic Network Connection.

[Andre Balogh]

Hello All,

Since upgrading to OS X 10.4.1 my ALPB 17" does not connect  
automatically to my wireless network on start-up or awakening from  
sleep. Apple Care cannot help me. Weird is that sometimes when I log  
out and choose my test account it sometimes connects automatically on  
logging in but it is haphazard.


Can this be rectified?

TIA, greetings, André.
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