Re: [gentoo-user] Re: any problems with gcc 3.3?
Hello, Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2004 10:31 schrieb Michael Wever: > On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:53:54 +0100, Harald Arnesen wrote: > > Some programs won't compile, due to the stricter standards conformance in > > 3.3.2. > > Tora (Toolkit for Oracle) for example. > Any ideas on how to relax this restrictions? CCFLAG? > Mick. just informational: tora emerged on 3 machines here without any problem using gcc-3.3.2 I'm not shure, but I think you can add something like --disable-strict to myconf in some ebuilds. I don't know, if this is a general feature, or something special in some packages. Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...
Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2004 00:24 schrieb Spider: > begin quote > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 23:10:09 +0100 > > Michael Schreckenbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're text terminals get corrupted due to a bug in the driver. If you > > stop using framebuffer or add > > Too bad, I want my TV out. "oops". And I said "text" not "framebuffer" > . Back to go. Hmmm. Never heard of this one. In which way do your text terminals get corrupted? How does this look like? Only problem I have is, that consolefonts get "lost", once X has started. "Workaround": after console-login call /etc/init.d consolefont restart My TV out is working as a second X server with a different layout. Before I changed from vga=791 to vga=normal in my grub.conf, I got strange block artefacts on my consoles after X has started. Text mode is ok. > > Maybe a bug that should be reported? > Done, no feedback. Gave up. Yes, I already read in another mail, that nvidia is not good in fixing reported bugs. That's bad behaviour, of course. > same goes along in the lower part of said email. See , you think it > works for you, when developers have to hack around nvidia specific > headaches (not using certain hardware scalers and so on) because the > drivers don't get fixed. Well, I am a developer. And nvidia cards are the only ones, I can use with linux for the kind of applications I am programming. Ati ones are an alternative. But I'd have to use the binary drivers there too, so where's the disadvantage of nvidia compared to ati? Which other card could I use for my purpose? I'm reader of the dri-devel mailing list, I'm waiting for the day, I can switch to opensource drivers. I know, there are great progresses in the ati-drivers atm. Once they are done, I will switch, if there is no comparable opensource nvidia driver. Others will do so too, I think. That's the day nvidia will have to re-think their policy. > So, no. I'm not happy with the so called "excellent" nvidia drivers, and > the drivers poor 2D performance we shouldn't even -talk- about. (oh, I > care about 2D. And quality there. "oops" ) 2D performance is ok for me. Maybe true, others are better, _I_ don't care. What I care about, is performance, quality and reliability in 3D. And there is no opensource driver fitting my needs in all of these atm. > So no, no points to nvidia from my behalf. That's ok. It would be kind of strange, if nvidia cards were the best choice for everybody. > //Spider Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 23:54 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 23:10:09 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Bugs? You as a developer of gentoo should know, that there is no > | bugfree software out there. Why should this be any other with > | nvidia-drivers? Report them, and maybe they get fixed. > > Yeah right. nVidia have consistently failed to fix reported bugs. That's not good. I never tried it. > Given > the source and the relevant documentation, I can pretty much guarantee > that we could fix these in short order. However, nVidia are doing a > Microsoft here -- being at the mercy of a single vendor with such a poor > track record is not a sane solution. I see. Can you name me only one really good working opensource 3D graphics driver? Why don't these work? You have the source and maybe some documentation. Why do you think, nvidias bugs are so much more easy to fix than the bugs in the open dri drivers? I agree with you in the point, that nvidia being the only vendor of working 3D cards for Linux is a poor situation. But why blame nvidia for this? Ati drivers are worse in my experience, others do not even offer drivers for Linux. Hell, nvidia even has drivers for FreeBSD. Of course I would prefer a better opensource driver for my nvidia card. And of course I'd be happy, if nvidia decides to open their driver for just that reason. But it's their market. And as long as there is no better supported 3D card (with opensource) out there, I see no need for them to do this. Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 22:06 schrieb Spider: > begin quote > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:35:43 +0100 > Michael Schreckenbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > > > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > | Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just > > > | flaming? I > > > | am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux. > > > > > > Please tell me where to find these good drivers. It'd be nice to get > > > an > > > ebuild made for them. > > > > Or what unsolveable problems are you experiencing? > > Maybe I can help, all works for me (console, X on monitor, X on TV). > > Btw: if you want to have real problems regarding X, try enabling dri > > on a sis630 based laptop ;-) > Why is the kernel-driver larger than the binary image of my kernel? Why > does it corrupt all my -text- terminals once loaded? Why does it lock > the machine hard if I start multiple X servers? I don't know, why the kernel module is that big. Why should I? I'am using this thing, not developing it. I do have enough space for a 2,3MB module on my harddisc also, so this is no problem for me. The more ram the kernel might use is no problem for me, as I use kde anyway :-) You're text terminals get corrupted due to a bug in the driver. If you stop using framebuffer or add Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "TV" to your XF86Config things should be ok. At least this works here. My X server does not lock hard, when started multiple times. I do this regularly, cause this is how I use my TV out. Maybe a bug that should be reported? > Why doesn't it unload prettily? > Why is the RENDER extention broken? (visible in nautilus > mouse selection code fex. ) Bugs? You as a developer of gentoo should know, that there is no bugfree software out there. Why should this be any other with nvidia-drivers? Report them, and maybe they get fixed. As a developer of OpenGL apps, I need the 3D features of my grafics board. The opensource nv driver has no 3D support at all. The opensource Ati driver is under heavy construction and has lots of bugs (search dri-devel mailinglist archive for radeon). nvidia and their binary driver is my only choice so far. And they work perfect for me. Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...
Hi, Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 20:26 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:18:15 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just flaming? I > | am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux. > > Please tell me where to find these good drivers. It'd be nice to get an > ebuild made for them. lol, shure I can: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html But there are already ebuilds for them (as you already know, I'm shure). I wrote imho, because _I_ never had any big problems with them. They are not perfect, of course. But would you mind, naming a _perfect_ opensource software then? Or what unsolveable problems are you experiencing? Maybe I can help, all works for me (console, X on monitor, X on TV). Btw: if you want to have real problems regarding X, try enabling dri on a sis630 based laptop ;-) Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Graphics cards recommendations...
Hello, Am Montag, 9. Februar 2004 19:27 schrieb Norbert Kamenicky: > Grendel wrote: > > the reason they arent open sourcing is that they are (justifiably) afraid > > that ATI will have a look at their driver interface to the card, then > > they (ATI) can figure out the current wekneses of NVIDIA cards and > > improve there ATI's based on that. Its not that they dont like the linux > > community, if that is the case they wouldnt even bother about releasing > > even a closed source driver. > > Now I definitely know u are nvidia employee, but nevertheless > did u hear about "reverse engineering"? Yes, I did. > It's not a problem to disassemble the "super fantastic" > nvidia driver and spy the "ultra top" secret inside. And if some > company is very interested, they does it already. > But what for u need to plagiate driver if u have different HW ? So it is that easy? Why isn't XFree going that way to enable DRI on nvidia cards then? > I would say nvidia is worry about the same thing as microshit. > If they open the sources, a lot of programmers will die. > 50% will die on terrible smile disease reading it. > 50% will catch an infarct, if they recognize their Open source > code, which was stolen and diletantly used. Blah. Did you actually read their sources, or are you just flaming? I am happy, that nvidia releases imho good drivers for linux. Otherwise I had to use a card with worse 3D support. The 9800 Atis are not yet supported by GPL'ed drivers, are they? Btw: from where did you get the incredible wisdom, that only opensource developers can do clean codeing? > > Just get realistic and tell me does nvidia make a profit by writing a > > driver for linux, no way at all, the windows market for nvidia cards is > > much greater than the linux desktop market which is very small. So they > > For sure they earn money from it, if not today, they are just looking > forward. Who needs a card without driver ? Me sure not ! Exactly. So they release drivers for linux, that people like me can use. No need for open-source drivers, cause they work. The power of dri-developers should be aimed to get yet-unsupported cards working, not to add "yet another flavour of an accelerated nvidia-driver". > > are doing a service and if you dont like what they are producing then > > instead of grumbling just use any other driver you like. > > > > Even if they open sourced it, it would probablky take years for people to > > figure out how the code works, remember that 3d cards are really rocket > > science. > > U must be very well informed, have u got actions of nvidia? > Remember, intel declared 386 cpu so sophisticated, nobody in the > world can clone it. Few months later it was cloned in East Germany. > I am sure next cpus are clonable as well. You are right here. Opensource developers would be able to program a working driver for nvidia cards given the original source and documentation. But why should they? There are cards out there not supported at all. Better do the work there. > And if it is really true, than progress can be achieved only > by opening the sources, 'cause no company has so big programmer's > power as linux has. My nvidia board works better with linux than any other grafics card I own (Ati, Sis, Savage). So my opinion is, that people at nvidia know, what they are doing. And as addition: No, I do not work there and no, I do not get money from nvidia for saying this. > noro Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xine-lib twice...
Hi Mark, Am Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2004 14:20 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 00:47, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > > Wizard root # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p xine-lib xine-dvdnav > > > xine-ui > > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > > > [ebuild R ] media-libs/xine-lib-1_rc3-r1 > > > [ebuild N] media-libs/xine-lib-0.9.13-r3 > > > [ebuild R ] media-plugins/xine-dvdnav-0.9.13 > > > [ebuild R ] media-video/xine-ui-0.9.23 > > > Wizard root # > > afaik the problem is, that you are emerging xine-dvdnav aside with the > > latest xine-lib. xine-lib > 1 doesn't need xine-dvdnav for navigating > > DVDs iirc. I believe, that xine-lib-0.9.13 is emerged as a dependancy > > from xine-dvdnav. Try without it. Works for me. > > > > HTH, > > Michael > > Michael, >Thanks for writing back. Yes, you are right about that, and I'm sorry > I didn't communicate that earlier. However, my issue was that if I have > xine-dvdnav installed for any reason (as I do) and portage tries to do > an update, then isn't portage going to break my xine-lib installation? > (Please note that dvdnav is causing a NEW xine-lib installation to > happen over an existing one...) > Wizard root # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p xine-lib xine-dvdnav > xine-ui > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > Calculating dependencies ...done! > [ebuild R ] media-libs/xine-lib-1_rc3-r1 > [ebuild N] media-libs/xine-lib-0.9.13-r3 > [ebuild R ] media-plugins/xine-dvdnav-0.9.13 > [ebuild R ] media-video/xine-ui-0.9.23 Ah, I overlooked the R with xine-dvdnav. It is already installed. > Wizard root # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p xine-lib xine-ui > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > Calculating dependencies ...done! > [ebuild R ] media-libs/xine-lib-1_rc3-r1 > [ebuild R ] media-video/xine-ui-0.9.23 > Wizard root # > In the example above, since I have xinedvdnav installed, isn't portage > going to break my xine-lib-1_rc3 installation by writing over it, or > changing links? I'm pretty shure, things will break after emerging media-libs/xine-lib-0.9.13-r3 in your case... > This all just looks like it's a problem waiting to happen. You're right with that, I think. > Is there an emerge or etcat command (or any othre program) that will > tell me what packages I have installed that depend on xine-dvdnav, so I > can safely uninstall it? Yes, try etcat -d xine-dvdnav and/or qpkg -q -v -I xine-dvdnav. > Thanks, > Mark Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xine-lib twice...
Hi Mark, Am Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2004 03:11 schrieb Mark Knecht: > Hi, >Does the following indicate a problem, possibly with the xine-dvdnav > ebuild? I'm not clear how I can have two libraries with the same name > and different revisions installed. (xine-lib) Why, if I already have > 1_rc3-r1 installed should I then build 0.9.13? > >If this is a problem I'll report the bug this evening. I did a quick > search in Bugzilla and didn't see anything quite like this, but I will > look more before reporting it. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > Wizard root # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p xine-lib xine-dvdnav > xine-ui > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > [ebuild R ] media-libs/xine-lib-1_rc3-r1 > [ebuild N] media-libs/xine-lib-0.9.13-r3 > [ebuild R ] media-plugins/xine-dvdnav-0.9.13 > [ebuild R ] media-video/xine-ui-0.9.23 > > Wizard root # afaik the problem is, that you are emerging xine-dvdnav aside with the latest xine-lib. xine-lib > 1 doesn't need xine-dvdnav for navigating DVDs iirc. I believe, that xine-lib-0.9.13 is emerged as a dependancy from xine-dvdnav. Try without it. Works for me. HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grep rotated-log ?
Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2004 17:08 schrieb raptor: > is there a easy way to grep rotated logs... when they are gziped... > I mean a quick way.. i.e. ready console tool.. I think you are looking for zgrep (in app-arch/gzip) > thanx HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1
Am Montag, 2. Februar 2004 20:38 schrieb Collins Richey: > On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 08:09:20 -0600 > > Kathy Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Collins Richey wrote: > > >On my AthlonXP with VIA chipset, I cannot use AGP (either kernel or > > >nvidia option) or nvidia (4496 or earlier levels) locks up tighter > > >than a drum. I wish that nvidia knew what the [EMAIL PROTECTED] they were doing > > >when it comes to coding. > > > > When I first switched to Gentoo, I tried using the ebuilds for the > > nvidia kernel and glx and couldn't get them to work right even with > > the command "opengl-update nvidia". I use the Nvidia packages from > > nvidia.org and have never had any trouble with them > > I just this morning downloaded and installed > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1.run from nvidia.org and it installed > > and is running without any problems. I have a Riva TNT2 card > > But do you have a VIA chipset? Well, I have an athlon, a via-based-board and a nvidia GF3. Only problem is, that my consolefont changes after starting X. I do not use framebuffer, because when I do this, I cannot use TV out (vesafb and TV out was working with some older versions of the driver, something before 4496 iirc). No problems at all with 3D stuff (playing RtCW, UT2k3 and ssam1&2). I'm using agpgart. The ebuilds are working perfect for me since I installed gentoo the first time. Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] consolefont and X
Hi, Am Samstag, 31. Januar 2004 21:19 schrieb Ani Adarsh: > Yes I am seeing this problem too once I upgraded to kernel 2.6.2_rc2 > Im not sure but i keep upgraded ~x86 all the time and I too got an > NVIDIA card and might have upgraded something else too ... > > On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 16:04, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a small problem with consolefont and X. Without starting X > > everything is ok. I have german umlauts and the eurosign on my console. > > As soon as I startx, my consolefont gets messed up. To be more precise: > > the umlauts and > > > > Spex: > > Kernel 2.6.2_rc2 > > XFree4.3.0-r3 > > nvidia-kernel 1.0.5328-r1 > > nvidia-glx 1.0.5328-r1 > > My specs exactly > Maybe one of us should file a bug report ??? after some further investigation I don't think, this is gentoo related. It works perfekt on my notebook with sis-chipset and graphics. So I think it's a problem with nvidia-binary drivers and only nvidia has a chance to change this. Btw: Am I blind, or is it true, that nvidia has no official way to report bugs on its webpage? ;) > Cheers > Ani Thanks for your response, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] consolefont and X
Hi, I have a small problem with consolefont and X. Without starting X everything is ok. I have german umlauts and the eurosign on my console. As soon as I startx, my consolefont gets messed up. To be more precise: the umlauts and the eurosign are replaced by strange characters. Switching back to a console (--) and restarting consolefont (/etc/init.d/consolefont restart) restores everything. Switching back to X (--) removes this change. I have to restart consolefont again, to get umlauts etc on a console. In X everything works as wanted :-) Anybody else here seeing this? Spex: Kernel 2.6.2_rc2 XFree4.3.0-r3 nvidia-kernel 1.0.5328-r1 nvidia-glx 1.0.5328-r1 Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SCSI emulation under Gentoo - MOSTLY SOLVED!
Hello Mark, Am Donnerstag, 22. Januar 2004 14:26 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 04:39, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > On Thursday 22 Jan 2004 04:05, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > QUESTION: how do I test these devices (cdrw and dvdr drives) to > > > ensure DMA is still enabled? I cannot figure out yet what parameters > > > to give hdparm -I /dev/WHAT? > > > > > > Wizard root # hdparm -I /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 > > > /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 not supported by hdparm > > > > If you're using ide-scsi those devices are not supported by hdparm. > > (Someone tell me if I'm wrong). > > Right. That's what I see. So my question is that we know the devices are > attached to an IDE controller and we want to determine whether DMA is > enabled for the IDE controller. How do we do it? > > 1) Some different program *like* hdparm that tells us? > > 2) Run some sort of benchmark that shows us? > > 3) Something else? > > Of course, you've sort of shown me that I might not need SCSI emulation > anyway, but I'm not sure which way to go and why just yet, so I'd like > to know how to make DMA is enabled in the channel. I didn't follow this thread from the beginning, but have you tried using the devfsd-names for your devices? eg: hdparm -I /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc These should exist even with ide-scsi. I cannot check this, as I am burning CDs with atapi and a 2.6.1-kernel. > - Mark HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] equivelant of Nero's Image Writer
Hello, Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2004 15:15 schrieb Andrew Gaffney: > Barry Marler wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 07:57:38 -0600 > > > > Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Is there a program/kernel module for Linux that emulates a CD burner > >>for the purpose of generating ISOs? > > > > mkisofs? > > Not what I'm looking for. Basically, it could be useful for converting one > rip format (BIN/CUE or CCD/CUE/IMG/SUB) to another (ISO). in this case perhaps one of those might help: app-cdr/cdemu app-cdr/cuetools app-cdr/bchunk app-cdr/bin2iso (found via esearch -S cue) HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] equivelant of Nero's Image Writer
Hello, Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2004 14:57 schrieb Andrew Gaffney: > Is there a program/kernel module for Linux that emulates a CD burner for > the purpose of generating ISOs? not sure, if this is what you're looking for, but have a look at mkisofs (app-cdr/cdrtools). HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing troubles
Happy new year everybody, Am Donnerstag, 1. Januar 2004 16:55 schrieb Nejko Zidarjev: > Hi! I hoped that I've solved the printing issue in Gentoo but I was wrong. > Here it goes: using the Gentoo printing guide I installed Cups and my > printer (HP Deskjet 656c), including hpijs. The printer is not printing. If > I try to print the Cups' test page I get this error: > I [01/Jan/2004:16:41:01 +0100] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" > (pid=1901) > I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" > (pid=2045) > I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Adding start banner page "none" to job 3. > I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Adding end banner page "none" to job 3. > I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Job 3 queued on 'HP' by 'root'. > I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops > (PID 2046) for job 3. > I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Started filter > /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 2047) for job 3. > I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb > (PID 2048) for job 3. > E [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] PID 2047 stopped with status 1! > I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to "debug" to > find out more. > The modules that required are loaded (usbcore, printer). I noticed that the > device URI in Cups points to: /dev/usb/lp0, which does not exist in the > /dev/usb map. > What's not working? Can you advise me please? > Thanks for the help, > JZidar I'm not sure, but I think I had this problem, when foomatic-rip did not exist on my computer (which is the process failing here PID2047). It belongs to net-print/foomatic-filters. On my system it looks like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sb $ ls -la /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 21 2003-10-21 12:52 /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip -> /usr/bin/foomatic-rip [EMAIL PROTECTED] sb $ ls -la /usr/bin/foomatic-rip -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 190609 2003-10-21 12:52 /usr/bin/foomatic-rip Maybe (re-)emerging it helps. HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa and jack-sensing ?!
Hi, Am Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2003 00:55 schrieb raptor: > hi > I have sound card - realtek ALC655 (working well with intel8x0 drivers). > The problem is that it I dont know how to activate Mic-in and Line-In to > work as outputs !? > Under windows there is app that senses if u connect speakers to them and > activates them as outputs... > > So I can't play 5+1 AC3 sounds... :"((( > > Is there a way, config, application that can turn these inputs into outputs > ?!? I don't have this card, but I found: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=i820&chip=i820&module=intel8x0 Maybe you find something helpful there. > tia... HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install new kernel & kde3.2
Hi, Am Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2003 07:20 schrieb Vanh Phom: > I don't have /etc/portage/package.unmask > What to do? just create it and add the entries below. HTH Michael > Vanh > > > For KDE: > > > > Put the following in /etc/portage/package.unmask: > > >=kde-base/kde-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdeaccessibility-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdeaddons-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdeartwork-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdeedu-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdelibs-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdebase-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdebase-3.2.0_beta1-r1 > > >=kde-base/kdesdk-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdesdk-3.2.0_beta1-r1 > > >=kde-base/kdegraphics-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdenetwork-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdepim-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdegames-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdeadmin-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdetoys-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kdeutils-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/kde-i18n-3.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/arts-1.2.0_beta1 > > >=kde-base/arts-1.2.0_beta1-r1 > > > > and then > > > > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge (-pv) kde > > > > HTH... > > > > Dirk > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS
Hi, Am Samstag, 29. November 2003 16:31 schrieb Ulrich Rhein: > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Saturday 29 November 2003 22:25, Ulrich Rhein wrote: > >> Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > The biggest improvement in performance will come by adding > >> > -fomit-frame-pointer to your flags. > >> > >> That won't actually change anything but remove three instructions from > >> some function calls. The resulting performance improvement is > >> practically insignificant. > > > > WTF? Have you tried it? > > Yes. Shure? Compiling and timing one small program is no test. > > Benchmarks give a 30% improvement across the board and > > I must say there definately is a very noticable improvement to system > > responsiveness. > > Entirely unrealistic. Arguments? 30% is very optimistic, but I notice speed improvements too. > > It may only remove three instructions from some function > > calls, but it frees up a register or two allowing for better optimisation > > in other ways. > > On x86, it's exactly one register (namely %ebp). I have tried it with > gcc -S -O2 on a small project (~1.600 SLOC) of mine. In the functions in > which %ebp is not used as frame pointer, it is not used at all. So you tested it with one of your own programs and say we are telling shit? I had my whole system compiled without this flag, then the only change was adding it (and of course I recompiled my system). There was a noticable performance boost. The desktop is much more responsive, not only in my imagination. > Could you point out some pieces of code where gcc does such an > optimization? No need for this. Just use google to get the answer. > Gruß Uli Grüße vom Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't compile kdemultimedia
Hi, Am Mittwoch, 26. November 2003 00:27 schrieb Norberto Bensa: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Check out the bug report like Mike Gardiner said. The problem is there - > > in extensive detail! > > > > Basically, for the time being, you'll have to either downgrade gcc to > > 3.2.x or edit > > /usr/portage/kde-base/kdemultimedia/kdemultimedia-3.1.4.ebuild and > > Just edit the damn /usr/include/asm/byteorder.h header file! > See my other post in this thread. Anyway, I'm attaching a patch That works, but is that a proper solution to this problem? kdemultimedia tries to compile something using long long with strict ANSI-C checking. That _should_ not work. Imho the "right" way to fix this is to change the ebuild, like Jason Stubbs suggested (and what works perfectly here). > Regards, > Norberto Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Debugging OpenGL program returns error
Hi Paulo, Am Dienstag, 25. November 2003 10:14 schrieb Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos: > On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 02:10, Leendert van den Berg wrote: > > > Yes, all OpenGL programs run. :D > > > I'm using a Pentium 4, indeed I have use flag for sse set but I though > > > sse was supported in Pentium 4. Well, I'll try to unset the flag and > > > recompile X to see if gdb runs ok this time! > > > > > > Is there any way to see if my processor has sse support? > > > > Yes, the Pentium 4 should have SSE. You can verify this by looking at the > > flags section when you do cat /proc/cpuinfo > > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca > cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm > > So, it seems I have sse after all. :) But still, gdb doesn't run. :( Has > anyone tried successfuly to debug the program I attached? > > Best regards, > > Paulo I tried to compile and debug the program, and all works fine here. I have a nvidia card and use the binary drivers from them. Anyways, here is some information from the dri-devel mailing list: Jacek Popawski wrote: > Sometimes when using gdb with my program I see error: > Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception. > [Switching to Thread 1024 (LWP 2340)] > 0x405cdcfb in _mesa_test_os_sse_exception_support () from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so > > This is not my program fault, because there is same message with glxgears and > other OpenGL applications. However I remember - sometimes I could debug OpenGL > program without problems! > > Stack: > > (gdb) bt > #0 0x405cdcfb in _mesa_test_os_sse_exception_support () >from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so > #1 0x405cda4e in check_os_sse_support () at common_x86.c:190 Just continue when you hit the _mesa_test_os_sse_exception_support() function. It's a normal part of start-up. We found that the only reliable way to detect SSE support (both CPU-wias and OS-wise) is to try an SSE instruction and see if an exception is raised. -Brian HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] language setting during the installation of openoffice?
Hi, Am Dienstag, 18. November 2003 01:11 schrieb Zhang, Peng: > Hi Michael, > > I had try this before. I got the same error. > > pzhang root # LANGUAGE=ENUS emerge openoffice > Calculating dependencies ...done! > > >>> emerge (1 of 1) app-office/openoffice-1.1.0-r2 to / > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) OOo_1.1.0_source.tar.bz2 > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) gpc231.tar.Z > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) freetype-2.1.4.tar.bz2 > > * > * It is important to note that OpenOffice.org is a very fragile > * build when it comes to CFLAGS. A number of flags have already > * been filtered out. If you experience difficulty merging this > * package and use agressive CFLAGS, lower the CFLAGS and try to > * merge again. > * > * Unknown LANGUAGE setting! > * > * Known LANGUAGE settings are: > * ENUS | PORT | RUSS | GREEK | DTCH | FREN | SPAN | FINN | CAT | ITAL > > * CZECH | SLOVAK | DAN | SWED | POL | GER | PORTBR | THAI | ESTONIAN > > * JAPN | KOREAN | CHINSIM | CHINTRAD | TURK | HINDI | ARAB | HEBREW > > !!! ERROR: app-office/openoffice-1.1.0-r2 failed. > !!! Function set_languages, Line 213, Exitcode 0 > !!! (no error message) > > you probably should use one of the values the ebuild suggests, or none, > > if you want english (default). The variable's name is LANGUAGE, eg: > > LANGUAGE=RUSS emerge openoffice > > for russian. > > > > HTH, > > Michael sorry, I can't help you further then :-( I have two machines running OO1.1.0, one German, one english. The german install failed in earlier releases of OO1.1.0 due to an error telling something like "Nothing to unpack for this LANGUAGE", but works with 1.1.0-r2 now. English was always ok (no LANGUAGE setting). Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] language setting during the installation of openoffice?
Hello, Am Montag, 17. November 2003 20:04 schrieb Zhang, Peng: > Hi folks, > > I am trying to upgrade the openoffice to 1.1.0-r2, and I got the > following error: > > I don't have this problem when I install 1.1.0. Can somebody tell me > which files or variables store the language information for openoffice > to use? Thanks a lot! > > Peng > > pzhang root # echo $LANG > en_US > pzhang root # echo $LANGUAGE > en_US > pzhang root # emerge world -UuDq > Calculating world dependencies ...done! > > >>> emerge (1 of 2) app-office/openoffice-1.1.0-r2 to / > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) OOo_1.1.0_source.tar.bz2 > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) gpc231.tar.Z > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) freetype-2.1.4.tar.bz2 > > * > * It is important to note that OpenOffice.org is a very fragile > * build when it comes to CFLAGS. A number of flags have already > * been filtered out. If you experience difficulty merging this > * package and use agressive CFLAGS, lower the CFLAGS and try to > * merge again. > * > * Unknown LANGUAGE setting! > * > * Known LANGUAGE settings are: > * ENUS | PORT | RUSS | GREEK | DTCH | FREN | SPAN | FINN | CAT | ITAL > > * CZECH | SLOVAK | DAN | SWED | POL | GER | PORTBR | THAI | ESTONIAN > > * JAPN | KOREAN | CHINSIM | CHINTRAD | TURK | HINDI | ARAB | HEBREW > > !!! ERROR: app-office/openoffice-1.1.0-r2 failed. > !!! Function set_languages, Line 213, Exitcode 0 > !!! (no error message) you probably should use one of the values the ebuild suggests, or none, if you want english (default). The variable's name is LANGUAGE, eg: LANGUAGE=RUSS emerge openoffice for russian. HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the problem with ping
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2003 15:13 schrieb Hall Stevenson: > At 02:29 AM 11/12/2003, you wrote: > >is that it never stops anymore with -c ... I have to use the > > "kill" command to stop it. I'm using net-misc/iputils-020927. > > > >Is something wrong with my setup? > > Nope, unless you think the method that 'ping' on Windows works is > "correct". On Windows, it pings (4) times and stops. On *nix, I don't know > how many times it will ping before it stops. If you want it to ping 'x' > number of times, use 'ping -c X site', where 'X' is the number of times you > want it to ping. that's right, but was not the OPs problem ;-) -c should work, and stop the pinging: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sb $ ping www.gentoo.org PING www.gentoo.org (212.162.48.146) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 212.162.48.146: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=15.7 ms 64 bytes from 212.162.48.146: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=15.9 ms 64 bytes from 212.162.48.146: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=15.9 ms 64 bytes from 212.162.48.146: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=15.5 ms 64 bytes from 212.162.48.146: icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=15.6 ms 64 bytes from 212.162.48.146: icmp_seq=6 ttl=53 time=15.7 ms 64 bytes from 212.162.48.146: icmp_seq=7 ttl=53 time=15.7 ms Here I pressed -c --- www.gentoo.org ping statistics --- 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6032ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 15.550/15.763/15.963/0.200 ms > You could also create an alias that makes ping only ping "x" number of > times instead of having to specify it each time. > > Hall To the OP: Are you trying this in a xterm or something similar? Does it work in a text-console? Regards Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidea emerge instructions?
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2003 23:40 schrieb Matt Chorman: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 06 November 2003 02:00 pm, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > you need to run opengl-update nvidia as well. This will change the > > symlinks libGL.so and friends in /usr/lib to point to the nvidia-glx. I > > also have agpgart and dri enabled in my kernel. Don't know, if that is > > really needed, but it works here without problems (Geforce 3) :-) I have > > a file /etc/ modules.d/nvidia. Maybe you should run modules-update to get > > the entries in / etc/modules.conf. But I'm not shure, if I did that, so > > perhaps you try first without that. > > opengl-update is run by the nvidia-glx.ebuild, so it should not be > necessary. Is that new? I think that didn't happen, when I configured my video. As far as I remember, I had to call it manually. > Agpgart is fine to enable, and is the default. The nvidia driver states > that dri should be removed from XF86Config (see lines 357-375 of > /usr/share/doc/ nvidia-glx-1.0.4496-r1/README.gz) > > You should also remove the following lines: > Load "dri" > Load "GLcore" > You are right. I don't have these lines in my XF86Config. But I have dri enabled in my kernel. Seems nvidia doesn't need that. > I doubt it causes a fatal error, but if you check you XF86 log I'll bet it > throws an error and does not load the dri module > > - -- > Matt > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7D81740A > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/qs3VZosHVX2BdAoRAotLAJ0Q+CzM7FvjZS7yBwrOlbZrZjbsjwCdGD8F > fHtegYwux6z5uhvgY7vsDug= > =EC1G > -END PGP SIGNATURE- Regards Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidea emerge instructions?
Hi Mark, Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2003 22:27 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:55, Matt Chorman wrote: > > Quite simple, really. > > > > $ emerge nvidia-kernel > > $ emerge nvidia-glx > > > > Remove any references to glcore or dri from the start of XF86Config. > > Change the driver to > > > > Driver="nvidia" > > > > Under this line, add > > > > Option "RenderAccel" "true" > > to enable hardware rendering in X. > > > > Viola! 2d/3d accelerated desktop with nvidia drivers! > > - -- > > Matt > > Matt, >Thanks much. You proved I couldn't even spell NVidia! No wonder I've > been an ATI guy up until now! ;-) > >OK, everything is emerged and I've modified the XF86config file as > instructed. I'm getting an error message > > NV: could not open control device /dev/nvidiactl (No such file or > directory) > > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! > >Indeed, /dev/nvidiactl does not exist. > >Are there any specific options I needed to enable in my kernel to > make this work? agpgart? Other stuff? dri/drm? That's required by the > Radeon family, but this is a new box and new kernel, so likely I didn't > get somethign turned on if required. > > Thanks, > MArk you need to run opengl-update nvidia as well. This will change the symlinks libGL.so and friends in /usr/lib to point to the nvidia-glx. I also have agpgart and dri enabled in my kernel. Don't know, if that is really needed, but it works here without problems (Geforce 3) :-) I have a file /etc/ modules.d/nvidia. Maybe you should run modules-update to get the entries in / etc/modules.conf. But I'm not shure, if I did that, so perhaps you try first without that. HTH, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SiS 630 DRM
Hello Phil, I have a Sis630 in my laptop. To get dri running on it, you'll need the latest dri-cvs version (dri.sourceforge.net). The driver didn't compile for a long time, so it's building was commented out by the dri-team. Now Eric Anholt fixed it and Sis-DRI is supported again, but cvs only afaik. I have a functional sis_dri.so here, but its size is ~8MB, far to big for the list ;-) If you want, I can mail it to you directly. HTH Michael Am Samstag, 1. November 2003 18:52 schrieb Philip Ward: > Well that was a bit of a palaver. After following the instructions at > www.winischhofer.net and compiling XFree there is still no sis_dri.so > file. I unpacked the X430src-x.tgz files, copied Thomas's driver code > into the correct place and rebuilt. Nothing. > > Anyone out there have a pre-compiled copy of sis_dri.so I can leech? > > Phil. > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 14:57, Philip Ward wrote: > >>Donnie Berkholz wrote: > >>>Be sure you also have this: > >>>/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/sis_dri.so > >> > >> Ah, that's what's missing. Is sis_dri.so part of a particular package > >>or should I add sis_dri or dri to my USE flags and rebuild xfree? > > > > For whatever reason xfree-4.3 doesn't build it. That's why > > www.winischhofer.net has them available for download. > > > > However, you'll find that 4.3.99.x will build it. > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] RISC
Hi Christian, Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003 12:19 schrieb Christian Herzyk: > Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2003 20:15 schrieb Wojciech Potentas: > >> Hej fellows! Do anybody use any RISC processors? > >>Just curious :] > > > >I have one in a HP Apollo 715/50. It has a 50MHz Pa-Risc CPU, 64MB Ram and > >2*1GB Harddiscs. The (I think it is) network port looks a bit like a > >gameport. Unusable for me, I think. It was a present from a friend of > > mine, so I have not much information about this box. Actually it is > > running some ancient version of HP-UX. In some time I will try to install > > Gentoo or, at least, some other Linux on it. But no idea, where to start, > > as I have no piece of documentation for it :-( > > Hello Michael, > > a friend of mine installed Gentoo on a 715/75 and it is running quite > well now. The main problem was diskspace when compiling X. Oh yes and it > takes quite some time :-)) That's good news :-)) If someone else succeeded in installing Gentoo on it, I think, I have a chance doing so, too. > The strange network port is called AUI and it will really be quite > unusable unless you use a twisted pair network (for that you can get > converters). Many thanks, now I have an idea what to google for :-) Nice to hear there are converters. > The only alternative to Gentoo is Debian at the moment. > You can find some docu about HPPA on the Gentoo website, but get the > other RISC docus too because I think they relate to these someplace. > > Christian Thanks for the info, Greetings Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] RISC
Hi, Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2003 20:15 schrieb Wojciech Potentas: > Hej fellows! Do anybody use any RISC processors? > Just curious :] I have one in a HP Apollo 715/50. It has a 50MHz Pa-Risc CPU, 64MB Ram and 2*1GB Harddiscs. The (I think it is) network port looks a bit like a gameport. Unusable for me, I think. It was a present from a friend of mine, so I have not much information about this box. Actually it is running some ancient version of HP-UX. In some time I will try to install Gentoo or, at least, some other Linux on it. But no idea, where to start, as I have no piece of documentation for it :-( > best regards > Wojtek Bye, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How many of you are 100% Linux?
Hello, Am Dienstag, 21. Oktober 2003 13:47 schrieb Eric Livingston: > I'm curious regarding the penetration of linux as a comprehensive solution > for all computing tasks in a normal day. i.e. what percentage of Linux > users are 100% linux, or even 100% Gentoo for that matter. > > I know a couple of folks who are 100% linux, but the circumstances seem > rare - i.e. they are server admins in small shops that use Red Hat for > server work, they don't have to deal with user desktops (which are windows, > but handled by somebody else), and they use only linux at home (they aren't > avid gamers, either, so the few linux titles available are sufficient). But > that particular combination can't be that common, can it? > > I, for instance, run three Gentoo boxes at home, including my server and a > desktop-configured "play" box. However, the vast majority of my time is > spent on my XP-based company notebook computer (that also has Gentoo in a > VMWare virtual machine). My work environment is a hodgepodge of stuff, > including Windows, Solaris, Linux, and even a couple of Mac X's. We're a > software development firm so we have to keep a lot of stuff kicking around > to accomodate clients. > > Also, I'm an avid gamer, and thus at this point I must have Windows to play > the various games I enjoy. > > So, I'm a long, long way from a day where I could get by touching nothing > but Linux day in and day out. It would be fair to say, even, that my > "default" environment is Windows. How about you all? > > Eric I'm 100% Linux (Gentoo) @work. There is a WinNT Box standing besides me, but it is turned off since at least 1 year. I will install Gentoo on it in the near future, as our hole company (the technical team) migrates to Linux (free choice of distribution :-) ). @home I am 80% Linux (Gentoo), 5% HPUX (on a HP Apollo) and 15% Windows. The later is for gaming stuff. I do not use wine. My wife is 100% Linux, because she doesn't like gaming on PCs, and she feels much more comfortable with KDE than with the windows gui and software. Hand, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] autoconf re-re-re-recompile && how many quicktimes do you need? && openoffice won't compile
Hello, Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2003 02:54 schrieb Jason Stubbs: > On Sunday 05 October 2003 09:32, Patrick Börjesson wrote: > > > lastly, open office won't compile with the gcc version i'm using > > > (3.3.1-r1). it says i need gcc-3.2.x but then it says i shouldn't > > > emerge a different gcc: > > > > There seems to be alot of people who's got problems compiling packages > > with gcc-3.3.1-r[12] so it's probably recommended to upgrade gcc to > > the latest version available and try compiling openoffice again > > afterwards. Or you could do as the ebuild says and downgrade gcc to a > > 3.2-version (which was what I did when I had problems with the > > 3.3-versions of gcc). The downgrade can be accomplished by pinning the > > I'm currently attempting an install of oo11 with gcc33 at the moment. In > the ebuild it's got code that quits on detection of gcc33 that is the same > as oo10. However, further on it's got code that's been modified from the > oo10 ebuild that implies that it should work with gcc33. Will let you know > how it goes... I already did that. Compiled without any problems and seems to work so far. But I did not much testing ;-) > Jason Hand, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up ../distfiles from make.conf
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2003 14:51 schrieb Stroller: > > I think, this would work, but that's not what I really want to do: > > editing > > world files, copying them here over and there over, everytime I update > > a > > desktop and/or the server. > > Well, of course you don't need to copy the files manually everytime. > There are lots of ways to do this: at 4:30pm every machine runs > something like: > `cat /var/cache/edb/world >> > //somemachine/NFS/share/world.othermachines` > Or: > `qpkg -I -v >> //somemachine/NFS/share/world.othermachines` > To retain version information. The server can uniquely sort this file > before running `emerge -Uf` for each line. Of course you are right here. No need to copy manually. Your other response to me had some quite good tips, especially the suggestion to have a copy of each desktop's worldfile on the server, synced, when the desktop shuts down. > > Note I have some machines running ~x86, and I do > > updates quite often (every two days average on this computers). I also > > often > > emerge packages only to have a look, how they work and if they fit my > > needs > > better than the program I actually use for this purpose. That's not my > > idea > > of comfort ;-) > > But as long as the automated sync & fetch process only takes place at > midnight, you can quite happily emerge new packages during the day, to > the same shared distfiles, without interfering with it. Well, a pure cron job would not fit my needs. There is no particular time in a day, when it could do its job safely. I'm working all times a day and at night. It depends on my wife, me, moonphase and what not. I'm currently thinking of a script, running when the desktops start up, which tells the server "here I am". When doing shutdown it will copy the worldfile to the server and "logout" from the server. When cron says "Do the emerge", it will only be started, if no desktops are online, hopeing, no desktop is started and updating, while it is still syncing and fetching ;-) > Stroller. Many thanks, did help a lot, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up ../distfiles from make.conf
Hi, Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 22:07 schrieb Paul Hannah: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have never tried something similar to this, but if you added any packages > installed on the clients manually (or through some automated script) to the > world file, after backing up the original and remembering to replace it > when you want to do an update to the server. Then the 'emerge sync && > emerge - -fud' should retreive all the files needed by all clients, no? > > Paul. > > On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 7:18 pm, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 18:46 schrieb Stroller: > > > > I feel unhappy with automatic system updates. Should etc-update be > > ... > > > > systems - it only updates the local portage database & fetches the > > > updates you require. It would, I would think, be quite easy to unshare > > > the NFS export before getting the files, and reshare it afterwards, as > > > part of the cron job. If this is done at 4am, then it is likely to > > > cause little interruption to service in most environments. > > > > Besides I share your opinion, that shell-scripting is an adequate way of > > cleaning distfiles, I must admit, that a cron-job, which calls emerge > > sync && emerge -fud world only makes sense on a shared .../distfiles, if > > and only if all machines sharing this, have the same packages installed. > > Given I have a server w/o X and such and some desktop machines naturally > > with this things. The share resides on the server, because this is the > > only machine 24/7 up. How could an update of X, KDE etc happen and use > > already downloaded files? When the desktops call emerge -ud world > > parallel, wouldn't that cause problems? Am I missing something? I'd love > > to do it this way, but I found no workaround for this problem yet. > > > > > Stroller. > > > -- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > Michael I think, this would work, but that's not what I really want to do: editing world files, copying them here over and there over, everytime I update a desktop and/or the server. Note I have some machines running ~x86, and I do updates quite often (every two days average on this computers). I also often emerge packages only to have a look, how they work and if they fit my needs better than the program I actually use for this purpose. That's not my idea of comfort ;-) Thanks anyway for your suggestion, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up ../distfiles from make.conf
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 18:46 schrieb Stroller: > > I feel unhappy with automatic system updates. Should etc-update be > > executed > > automatically after the emerge or not? Should every operator check > > his/her > > computer every morning to see if en etc-update gives something to do? > > The `emerge --update` is done separately - no-one sensible would advise > system updates without manual intervention. However if all the files > are stored on one machine & exported over NFS, then it is expedient to > have that machine do the fetching of all files. A cron job to `emerge > sync && emerge -fud world` does NO installation or upgrading of any > systems - it only updates the local portage database & fetches the > updates you require. It would, I would think, be quite easy to unshare > the NFS export before getting the files, and reshare it afterwards, as > part of the cron job. If this is done at 4am, then it is likely to > cause little interruption to service in most environments. Besides I share your opinion, that shell-scripting is an adequate way of cleaning distfiles, I must admit, that a cron-job, which calls emerge sync && emerge -fud world only makes sense on a shared .../distfiles, if and only if all machines sharing this, have the same packages installed. Given I have a server w/o X and such and some desktop machines naturally with this things. The share resides on the server, because this is the only machine 24/7 up. How could an update of X, KDE etc happen and use already downloaded files? When the desktops call emerge -ud world parallel, wouldn't that cause problems? Am I missing something? I'd love to do it this way, but I found no workaround for this problem yet. > Stroller. > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia/new kernel
Hello,
Am Samstag, 20. September 2003 15:57 schrieb Ernie Schroder:
> On Saturday 20 September 2003 06:08 am, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Am Samstag, 20. September 2003 00:47 schrieb Ernie Schroder:
> > > On Friday 19 September 2003 06:21 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> > > > On Friday 19 September 2003 05:50 pm, Michael Schreckenbauer
>
> wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Freitag, 19. September 2003 22:34 schrieb Ernie Schroder:
> > > > > > Interestingly, When the XF86Config contains "nvidia"
> > > > > > attempting to start X produces NO log output. The machine
> > > > > > just locks up hard. The "nvidia" module can be successfully
> > > > > > loaded prior to starting X but still, the damned thing
> > > > > > locks solid. This has got to be a kernel issue. I looked
> > > > > > for the obvious by diff'ing the old and new .configs and
> > > > > > removed AGP and DRM and rebuilt it but I'm still in the
> > > > > > same spot. Next I'll rebuild with the old config if I can.
> > > > > > In the mean time, I'm using the "nv" module which logs
> > > > > > with no errors and only one warning about APM.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ernie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday 19 September 2003 02:36 pm, Michael
> > > > > > Schreckenbauer
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Ernie,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am Freitag, 19. September 2003 20:05 schrieb Ernie
>
> Schroder:
> > > > > > > > H is right! yes, the module is loading in the r7
> > > > > > > > kernel but startx completely hangs the box. I'm going
> > > > > > > > to rebuild the nvidia pkgs. on the r1 kernel and, if
> > > > > > > > that works I;ll assume I've left something out of the
> > > > > > > > kernel
> > > > > > > > Ernie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > is it possible to post your /var/log/XFree86.0.log after
> > > > > > > trying to startx with the nvidia-driver? Maybe there are
> > > > > > > some useful hints in it.
> > > > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > very weird :-( Perhaps you can get some information when
> > > > > running strace X 1>out.txt 2>&1. And then have a look into
> > > > > out.txt, at which point the server hangs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > I'm not familiar with strace. I'm assuming I need to back out
> > > > of X, reset the Xconfig to the nvidia driver and THEN run the
> > > > command. Right?
> > >
> > > I did as above and I got a zero bit file. I did:
> > > # emerge strace
> > > # strace X 1>out.txt 2>&1
> >
> > your commands look ok. A zero bit file is very strange. strace
> > traces system calls and signals. I cant imagine, how this could be
> > empty and the kernel locks. Could you try this as root, and add -f
> > to strace? This allowes tracing forked processes.
> > #strace -f X 1>out.txt 2>&1
> >
> > Michael
>
> I ran strace with the "f" flag and do get some output (see below)
> At a quick glance, nothing jumps out at me. Perhaps you can make some
> sense of it.
>
> # cat out.txt
>
> geteuid32() = 0
> execve("/etc/X11/X", ["/etc/X11/X"], [/* 36 vars */]
>
> I really appreciate the help, Michael. Thanks
the last command executed (/etc/X11/X) does not return. This is a symlink to /
usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86. So maybe you can get further information by running:
#strace -f /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 1>out.txt 2>&1
On my laptop I see things like opening the config and loading the drivers
specified there in the output.
I'm not very familiar with debugging such things, but I hope, we can get it
running this way.
Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia/new kernel
Hello, Am Samstag, 20. September 2003 00:47 schrieb Ernie Schroder: > On Friday 19 September 2003 06:21 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote: > > On Friday 19 September 2003 05:50 pm, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Am Freitag, 19. September 2003 22:34 schrieb Ernie Schroder: > > > > Interestingly, When the XF86Config contains "nvidia" > > > > attempting to start X produces NO log output. The machine just > > > > locks up hard. The "nvidia" module can be successfully loaded > > > > prior to starting X but still, the damned thing locks solid. > > > > This has got to be a kernel issue. I looked for the obvious by > > > > diff'ing the old and new .configs and removed AGP and DRM and > > > > rebuilt it but I'm still in the same spot. Next I'll rebuild > > > > with the old config if I can. > > > > In the mean time, I'm using the "nv" module which logs with no > > > > errors and only one warning about APM. > > > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > On Friday 19 September 2003 02:36 pm, Michael Schreckenbauer > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Ernie, > > > > > > > > > > Am Freitag, 19. September 2003 20:05 schrieb Ernie Schroder: > > > > > > H is right! yes, the module is loading in the r7 kernel > > > > > > but startx completely hangs the box. I'm going to rebuild > > > > > > the nvidia pkgs. on the r1 kernel and, if that works I;ll > > > > > > assume I've left something out of the kernel > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > > is it possible to post your /var/log/XFree86.0.log after > > > > > trying to startx with the nvidia-driver? Maybe there are some > > > > > useful hints in it. > > > > > Michael > > > > > > very weird :-( Perhaps you can get some information when running > > > strace X 1>out.txt 2>&1. And then have a look into out.txt, at > > > which point the server hangs. > > > > > > Michael > > > > I'm not familiar with strace. I'm assuming I need to back out of X, > > reset the Xconfig to the nvidia driver and THEN run the command. > > Right? > > I did as above and I got a zero bit file. I did: > # emerge strace > # strace X 1>out.txt 2>&1 your commands look ok. A zero bit file is very strange. strace traces system calls and signals. I cant imagine, how this could be empty and the kernel locks. Could you try this as root, and add -f to strace? This allowes tracing forked processes. #strace -f X 1>out.txt 2>&1 Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia/new kernel
Hello, Am Freitag, 19. September 2003 22:34 schrieb Ernie Schroder: > Interestingly, When the XF86Config contains "nvidia" attempting to > start X produces NO log output. The machine just locks up hard. The > "nvidia" module can be successfully loaded prior to starting X but > still, the damned thing locks solid. This has got to be a kernel > issue. I looked for the obvious by diff'ing the old and new .configs > and removed AGP and DRM and rebuilt it but I'm still in the same > spot. Next I'll rebuild with the old config if I can. > In the mean time, I'm using the "nv" module which logs with no errors > and only one warning about APM. > > Ernie > > On Friday 19 September 2003 02:36 pm, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > Hi Ernie, > > > > Am Freitag, 19. September 2003 20:05 schrieb Ernie Schroder: > > > H is right! yes, the module is loading in the r7 kernel but > > > startx completely hangs the box. I'm going to rebuild the nvidia > > > pkgs. on the r1 kernel and, if that works I;ll assume I've left > > > something out of the kernel > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > On Friday 19 September 2003 01:54 pm, brett holcomb wrote: > > > > Hmmm. I haven't had any problems running Nvidia in X. Is > > > > the module loading? If not there was a version of the > > > > Nvidia ebuild that put the module in the wrong directory. > > > > It was in /lib/*/video if I remember instead of under the > > > > kernel. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:03:50 -0400 > > > > > > > > Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >On Friday 19 September 2003 12:51 pm, brett holcomb > > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > >> This is a simple question - I assume you set up > > > > >> /etc/X11/XF86Config? > > > > >> > > > > >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:12:57 -0400 > > > > >> > > > > >> Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> >I've gotten my new kernel (gentoo-siurces-2.4.20-r7) > > > > > > > > > >I hadn't made any changes to the XF86Config Brett. This > > > > >thing WAS > > > > >running fine in Gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r1 until I had such > > > > >a bear > > > > >compiling Gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7. I HAVE for now edited > > > > >the config > > > > >to use driver "nv" instead of "nvidia" just to get X > > > > >running. > > > > >I don't mind saying that I'm completely lost! > > > > >-- > > > > >Regards, Ernie > > > > >100% Microsoft and Intel free > > > > is it possible to post your /var/log/XFree86.0.log after trying to > > startx with the nvidia-driver? Maybe there are some useful hints in > > it. > > > > Michael very weird :-( Perhaps you can get some information when running strace X 1>out.txt 2>&1. And then have a look into out.txt, at which point the server hangs. Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia/new kernel
Hi Ernie, Am Freitag, 19. September 2003 20:05 schrieb Ernie Schroder: > H is right! yes, the module is loading in the r7 kernel but startx > completely hangs the box. I'm going to rebuild the nvidia pkgs. on > the r1 kernel and, if that works I;ll assume I've left something out > of the kernel > > Ernie > > On Friday 19 September 2003 01:54 pm, brett holcomb wrote: > > Hmmm. I haven't had any problems running Nvidia in X. Is > > the module loading? If not there was a version of the > > Nvidia ebuild that put the module in the wrong directory. > > It was in /lib/*/video if I remember instead of under the > > kernel. > > > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:03:50 -0400 > > > > Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Friday 19 September 2003 12:51 pm, brett holcomb > > > > > >wrote: > > >> This is a simple question - I assume you set up > > >> /etc/X11/XF86Config? > > >> > > >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:12:57 -0400 > > >> > > >> Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >I've gotten my new kernel (gentoo-siurces-2.4.20-r7) > > > > > >I hadn't made any changes to the XF86Config Brett. This > > >thing WAS > > >running fine in Gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r1 until I had such > > >a bear > > >compiling Gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7. I HAVE for now edited > > >the config > > >to use driver "nv" instead of "nvidia" just to get X > > >running. > > >I don't mind saying that I'm completely lost! > > >-- > > >Regards, Ernie > > >100% Microsoft and Intel free is it possible to post your /var/log/XFree86.0.log after trying to startx with the nvidia-driver? Maybe there are some useful hints in it. Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What creates System.map, config and vmlinuz?
Hi Mark, I'm, not an expert with this, but I'll try... Am Montag, 15. September 2003 18:57 schrieb Mark Knecht: > Hi, >I've never received an answer for these question in the Redhat > reflectors, and never asked here. Please excuse my ignorance on this > subject. > >I just did a kernel build of gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 by hand (make dep > clean bzImage modules modules_install & then copy bzImage to /boot by hand) > and I do not get the System.map, config and vmlinuz files in /boot. > However, I apparently did a build of 2.4.20-r5 some other way (possibly > make install?) and these files, plus their links were created. I think, there is a make bzlilo. Maybe you used this one? > QUESTION 1: What do these files do, and are they necessary? Afaik system.map is created and needed by your bootmanager (lilo?). vmlinuz is your kernel or a symlink to it. I dont know what config could be. I don't have this file and my machine boots quite good. I use grub now, but I had lilo installed before. > QUESTION 2: What is the process to create these files if I want them? vmlinuz is created by you, when you copy your kernel after compiling with cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz. Maybe make bzlilo does that for you, I never used this. System.map is created by your bootloader, when you install it (call /sbin/lilo, setup in grup?). > QUESTION 3: What is the difference between booting from a vmlinuz file and > a bzImage file? There is none. It's just the name of your kernelimage. > QUESTION 4: Does having these -r5 files impact running -r7 if the -r7 > versions don't exist and the links point to the -r5 versions? No, if you have a section in the configfile of your bootloader, that starts the -r7 kernel. Don't forget to call /sbin/lilo, if you use lilo (/boot mounted). After that there should be a System.map. > Thanks, > Mark Hand Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Enabeling sse2 in MPlayer
Am Freitag, 5. September 2003 20:19 schrieb Michael Gruetzner: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:54:22PM -0400, Jarrett Graham wrote: > > put sse in your make.conf and recompile > > I already have -msse2 in my make.conf(and compiled with it). > > > On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 12:59, Michael Gruetzner wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > whenever I start MPlayer it tells me 'sse2 supported but disabled'. Is > > > there a way to enable it? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Michael Hi Michael, I think, Jarrett wanted to say you should add sse to your USE-Variable (not CFLAGS) and recompile then ;-) HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] multiple snd cards
Am Montag, 1. September 2003 14:07 schrieb Simon Mushi: > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > Am Montag, 1. September 2003 10:52 schrieb Rick [Kitty5]: > > > Simon Mushi wrote: > > > > I am pursuing a dual-sound card setup onmy linux box in hopes of > > > > turning it into a daytime dj practice station. > > > > > > Give it up, it will not work. > > > > Ah yes, would you tell this my pc please? It refuses to stop working with > > my two soundcards (sb16 using ens1371 + EWS88MT using ice1712). Why > > shouldn't this work anyway? > > I'd suggest to use the snd-ens1370-driver for the ens1370-card ;-) > > > > HTH > > Michael > > Michael, > > Thanks for the encouragement! Hi, just for interest: Is it working as expected now? Well, I think so, because of the sound of your post, but I'm not shure ;-) > Simon Bye, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] multiple snd cards
Am Montag, 1. September 2003 10:52 schrieb Rick [Kitty5]: > Simon Mushi wrote: > > I am pursuing a dual-sound card setup onmy linux box in hopes of > > turning it into a daytime dj practice station. > > Give it up, it will not work. Ah yes, would you tell this my pc please? It refuses to stop working with my two soundcards (sb16 using ens1371 + EWS88MT using ice1712). Why shouldn't this work anyway? I'd suggest to use the snd-ens1370-driver for the ens1370-card ;-) HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia Riva TNT32 x OpenGL
Am Freitag, 29. August 2003 23:26 schrieb Pupeno: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > El Viernes Agosto 29 2003 18:09, Michael Schreckenbauer escribió: > > Am Freitag, 29. August 2003 22:45 schrieb Andrew Farmer: > > > At 29 August, 2003 Fellipe Weno wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I want configure my XFree to use glx support but it dont work i > > > > install nvidia-kernel and gl support but its dont work i run opengl > > > > config i change to nvidia gl and if a try run xfree its dont start. > > > > any idea is appreciated. > > > > > > Did you install xfree-drm? > > > > Hello, > > xfree-drm is not necessary, if you are using nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx > > ;-) Have you changed your /etc/X11/XF86Config to use the nvidia-driver? > > There's a section that should read similar to this: > > Section "Device" > > BoardName"AutoDetected" > > Driver "nvidia" <-- if you have nv or something diff here, > > change Identifier "Device[0]" > > Option "dpms" > > Option "HWCursor" "1" > > VendorName "AutoDetected" > > EndSection > > > > If this does not help, could you post your /var/log/XFree86.0.log? > > > > HTH > > Michael > > To use nvidia-glx, doen't you need to run > opengl-update nvidia > as well ? > Thanks > > - -- > Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.kde.org Hello, yes, you are right, that's needed :-) I think, this was meant by "...i run opengl config i change to nvidia gl...", but I could be wrong about that. Good point you mentioned this. Greetings Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia Riva TNT32 x OpenGL
Am Freitag, 29. August 2003 22:45 schrieb Andrew Farmer: > At 29 August, 2003 Fellipe Weno wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I want configure my XFree to use glx support but it dont work i install > > nvidia-kernel and gl support but its dont work i run opengl config i > > change to nvidia gl and if a try run xfree its dont start. any idea is > > appreciated. > > Did you install xfree-drm? Hello, xfree-drm is not necessary, if you are using nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx ;-) Have you changed your /etc/X11/XF86Config to use the nvidia-driver? There's a section that should read similar to this: Section "Device" BoardName"AutoDetected" Driver "nvidia" <-- if you have nv or something diff here, change Identifier "Device[0]" Option "dpms" Option "HWCursor" "1" VendorName "AutoDetected" EndSection If this does not help, could you post your /var/log/XFree86.0.log? HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] net-mail/evolution-1.4.4
Am Freitag, 29. August 2003 21:42 schrieb Mark Knecht: > Hi, >This has been going on for a few hours this morning. Has anyone else > seen this? > > Thanks, > Mark > > > > >>> Updating Portage cache... ...done! > > Wizard root # emerge --deep --update -p world > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating world dependencies / > emerge: there are no masked or unmasked ebuilds to satisfy > "dev-python/PyXML". > > !!! Problem with ebuild net-mail/evolution-1.4.4 > !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. > > !!! Depgraph creation failed. > Wizard root # Hi, 8< emerge: there are no masked or unmasked ebuilds to satisfy "dev-python/PyXML". !!! Problem with ebuild app-editors/emacs-21.3-r1 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. 8< There is a topic in the forums about that: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=79159 No solution yet afaik. Cheers Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] qpkg -q - am I interpreting it correctly?
Hello Mark, Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2003 23:27 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > Hello Mark, > > I don't know how to handle this with qpkg, I prefer etcat (in > > app-portage/gentoolkit). > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ etcat -d kdemultimedia | grep rosegarden > > * media-sound/rosegarden-4.0.9 > > * media-sound/rosegarden-4.0.8.5 > > > > So rosegarden seems to depend on kdemultimedia. > > > > HTH > > Michael > > Thanks Michael! > > I have no problems at all with using etcat. I didn't actually know about > it. It seems to work nicely though. Some nice tools are well hidden in gentoo ;-) > I don't suppose you know how to go any further in terms of determining what > portion of kdemultimedia Rosegarden is actually using do you? None of the > options in the man page seem to suggest this tool can go that far. I also don't think, that etcat can handle this. > There must be some sort of tools for figuring out (maybe when a program is > running) what it's calling and where it's getting it? Guess: Maybe rosegarden is linked against a lib belonging to kdemultimedia. If this is the case ldd `which rosegarden` (or however the binary is called) shows the libs rosegarden is linked against. You can use etcat -b then to verify the suspicious libraries belong to kdemultimedia. Example (may be clearer ;-) ): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ldd `which kmail` libkhtml.so.4 => /usr/kde/3.1/lib/libkhtml.so.4 (0x4000) libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x4b09a000) libkjs.so.1 => /usr/kde/3.1/lib/libkjs.so.1 (0x4030f000) libpcreposix.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpcreposix.so.0 (0x4ae8f000) libpcre.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpcre.so.0 (0x4ae79000) libkdeprint.so.4 => /usr/kde/3.1/lib/libkdeprint.so.4 (0x40382000) ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ etcat -b /usr/kde/3.1/lib/libkjs.so.1 Searching for /usr/kde/3.1/lib/libkjs.so.1 in * ... kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.3-r1 Maybe this helps you any further. > Anyway, thanks much for the new tool. Nice to hear it helped :-) > Cheers, > Mark Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] qpkg -q - am I interpreting it correctly?
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2003 22:54 schrieb Mark Knecht: > Brett, >Ok, so that limits the output a bit, but it still doesn't show me that > Rosegarden (which installed kdemultimedia) actually depends on > kdemultimedia. > >Or can I infer that kdemultimedia is not needed by anything (except > itself?) and remove it safely? Maybe the ebuild incorrectly installed it, > but the program doesn't depend on it? > > Thanks, > Mark Hello Mark, I don't know how to handle this with qpkg, I prefer etcat (in app-portage/gentoolkit). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ etcat -d kdemultimedia | grep rosegarden * media-sound/rosegarden-4.0.9 * media-sound/rosegarden-4.0.8.5 So rosegarden seems to depend on kdemultimedia. HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing to CUPS from another linux computer
Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2003 20:19 schrieb Vincent van de Camp: > OK, I've had partial success. As it turns out (after a four hour power > outage due to some heavy storms in the area), the was set > to Deny all and then Allow all, in that order. After I'd changed that, I > was able to print from one computer to the print server, but only using > the kde-print manager, as was suggested. > However, as said, I don't use kde, and I don't want to depend on that. > There has to be a way to just foomatic my way to the other computer. But > alas, I haven't found one yet. How would I set up the "-c" part of the > foomatic statement? lpd? http? ipp? Now that I know my printserver is > reachable, I know it can be done, just not exactly how... Hmmm, just another thought. Have you browsing activated in cupsd.conf? I have this in my cupsd.conf on my printserver: Browsing On BrowseProtocols CUPS BrowsePort 631 BrowseInterval 30 BrowseAddress 192.168.6.255 BrowseOrder allow,deny On my remote machines there is: Browsing On BrowseProtocols CUPS BrowsePort 631 No printersetup was necessary on any client. The server "broadcasts" his printers to the net, the clients autodetect them. Page setup is done on the server. HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help please! I screwed up!
Am Montag, 25. August 2003 21:56 schrieb Klaus Neumann: > After compiling a new kernel (and exchanging my second HD) I got this while > trying to boot: > > Mounting /proc ... > Mounting devfs at /dev ... > modprobe: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file > /lib/modules/2.4.4-4GB/modules.dep > (No such file or directory) > The "mount" command failed with error: > sf type devfs not supported by kernel ... > ... startup cannot continue. > > What does this mean, and how can I fix it? What kernel are you using? This looks like a SuSE-Kernel. The message says, that you compiled your kernel w/o support for devfs or you compiled it as a module. If the second is the case, the module needs to be loaded from a initrd afaik. > I hope someone can tell me how to get out of this mess, without > re-installing everything! TIA! I would suggest to use one of the kernels gentoo provides and compile it with devfs enabled (and automount at boot) both in the menu "File systems" [*] /dev file system support (EXPERIMENTAL) [*] Automatically mount at boot > Cheers, > Klaus HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Power off button
Am Montag, 25. August 2003 21:36 schrieb Dmitry Suzdalev: > On Monday 25 August 2003 23:07, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > Yes and yes ;-) acpid calls /etc/acpi/default.sh, where you can do > > everything you want to.Kde is controlable by dcop, for example: > > /usr/kde/3.1/bin/dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface logout > > gives the logout-dialog. > > Wow! I didn't even know this! Thaks! I've been searching for info on how to > logout kde from command line for very long time :). For some I was > searching that for my self w/o trying to ask community. My fault :). I had a hard time to find this information some time ago. I wanted kde to show the logout-dialog, when I press the Power-Button ;) Then I stumbled over kdcop, a comfortable Browser and client for dcop. Have a look at it, you will find a lot of interesting things there. > WBW, Dmitry. HAND Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Power off button
Am Montag, 25. August 2003 17:54 schrieb Dmitry Suzdalev: > On Monday 25 August 2003 13:39, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Monday 25 August 2003 18:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Does this mean that the OS can intercept you pushing the "power off" > > > button and do something? > > > > > > - Like booting to another OS on the same computer? > > > - Like doing a controlled shutdown instead of just letting the computer > > > turn off the power? > > > - Like even refusing to power off? > > > > Usually the button is configurable in BIOS so that it either powers off > > straight away or powers off after the button is held for 4 seconds, the > > latter being the default. When the button is depressed an ACPI event is > > generated, which the OS intercepts and reacts to accordingly. With acpid, > > your first two suggestions above are both possible - the third could only > > be the result of a buggy motherboard (or motherboard producer ;-). > > And will this work if I'm running kde? I mean will it shutdown properly > (i.e. store session, close all open windows etc)? Is acpid configurable for > that kind of action? Yes and yes ;-) acpid calls /etc/acpi/default.sh, where you can do everything you want to.Kde is controlable by dcop, for example: /usr/kde/3.1/bin/dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface logout gives the logout-dialog. > TIA, > Dmitry. > > P.S. Will acpid work with 2.4.20 vanilla sources? I'm not sure, but it works perfectly with vanilla 2.4.21 on my machine. HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fetching updates with cron
Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2003 18:57 schrieb Thorsten Kampe:
> * Michael Schreckenbauer (2003-08-07 16:37 +0200)
>
> > Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2003 16:15 schrieb Thorsten Kampe:
> >> I have a vcron job[1] that syncs the portage tree und afterward
> >> fetches available updates - at least that's how it is supposed to
> >> work. The sync works fine and the fetch, too, at least according to
> >> /var/log/emerge.log[2].
> >>
> >> But actually the .tar.bz never reaches /usr/portage/distfiles, so I
> >> have to execute "emerge -fuD world" manually. This happens with all
> >> updates!
> >>
> >> I even tried to search for the files - with locate - but they're not
> >> on my harddisk.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have a hint or idea?!
> >>
> >> [1] 0 */12 * * * root /opt/gentoo-rsync/rsync-gentoo-portage.sh;
> >> emerge -fuD world &> /dev/null [2] Started emerge on: Aug 07, 2003
> >> 12:14:020
> >
> > Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the '&' at the wrong position? Afaik the line
> > should read:
> > 0 */12 * * * root /opt/gentoo-rsync/rsync-gentoo-portage.sh;
> > emerge -fuD world > /dev/null &
>
> Well "&" (background) doesn't make much sense in a cron job in my
> opinion.
Of course you are right here. I realized this, when I started to read your
answer.
> > I believe you are forcing your updates straight forward to /dev/null
>
> Well no and yes:
>
> man bash
> There are two formats for redirecting standard output and standard
> error: "&>word" and ">&word". Of the two forms, the first is
> preferred. This is semantically equivalent to ">word 2>&1".
Ah, interesting. Thanks for this.
> But the real culprit was *Prozilla*! I changed the $FETCHCOMMAND to
> [1] and when I get back to the default wget - it works...!
>
> Thorsten
>
> [1] FETCHCOMMAND='/usr/bin/proz -r --no-netrc --no-getch --no-search -k=4
> --timeout=300 -t=5 --retry-delay=15 --max-bps=0 ${URI} -P ${DISTDIR}'
Nice to hear everything works again :-)
HAND
Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetching updates with cron
Hi Thorsten, Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2003 16:15 schrieb Thorsten Kampe: > Hi, > > I have a vcron job[1] that syncs the portage tree und afterward > fetches available updates - at least that's how it is supposed to > work. The sync works fine and the fetch, too, at least according to > /var/log/emerge.log[2]. > > But actually the .tar.bz never reaches /usr/portage/distfiles, so I > have to execute "emerge -fuD world" manually. This happens with all > updates! > > I even tried to search for the files - with locate - but they're not > on my harddisk. > > Does anyone have a hint or idea?! > > > Thorsten > > [1] 0 */12 * * * root /opt/gentoo-rsync/rsync-gentoo-portage.sh; > emerge -fuD world &> /dev/null [2] Started emerge on: Aug 07, 2003 > 12:14:020 Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the '&' at the wrong position? Afaik the line should read: 0 */12 * * * root /opt/gentoo-rsync/rsync-gentoo-portage.sh; emerge -fuD world > /dev/null & I believe you are forcing your updates straight forward to /dev/null HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Arts problem
Hello Andrea, Am Dienstag, 5. August 2003 13:25 schrieb Andrea Bergia: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Hi everyone. I've a problem with Arts. > I installed Gentoo last week, and it works really well! Arts went installed > with KDE 3.1.2, and it worked fine. Now, I've installed the KDE-Cvs > version, but Arts works really bed. I hear a second sound every 2 / 3 > seconds, and it's not fine. I believe that. But may I ask, why you changed from a stable KDE-Version to the CVS one? I think, it's normal, that versions coming from the CVS do not always work as they are supposed to do. Since a few days KDE 3.1.3 is in portage (at least ~x86), I use this since then and had yet no problems (even with arts). > I'm asking here becase on my Slackware (which I > used before Gentoo), Arts from KDE-Cvs worked fine. Well, things in CVS change, perhaps some critical code changed from your "slackware" CVS snippet to the one you are using with Gentoo (just a guess). > I've a Sound Blaster Live, and I use the driver emu10k1. The driver should > works good, because with XMMS the sound is what it should be. So, the > problem should be in Arts (or maybe in Noatun, since with KSCD the sound > works nicely). Can someone help me? I really cannot help you, but might I suggest to change your KDE Version to 3.1.3? You can use portage to do so, and, as I said, it works here on 3 machines (2 Desktops, 1 Laptop) without any problems. I personally never use CVS-Versions of any software on a machine I do every days work with. > - -- > Andrea Bergia - studente Linux Registered User #281550 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/L5QT/QsGXRtKyZkRApbGAJ9IUM3rInKiGEykhCBjG50ERbvS8gCffHIG > 23wNbnpUNBh1FgIwJUrdcnA= > =43Nh > -END PGP SIGNATURE- Greetings Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wish?
Hello Mark, Am Dienstag, 5. August 2003 17:57 schrieb Mark Knecht: > What package do I emerge to get wish? make xconfig won't run without it. > emerge -S wish didn't find it. A qpkg -f `which wish` gives me dev-lang/tk. make xconfig works for me, so I think, this is the package you want to install. > Thanks, > Mark HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems connecting to internet
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 09:30 schrieb CrPy: > Hi ml, > > > cat /etc/resolve.conf > > > > nameserver 66.114.79.40 > > Looks good. Maybe use a second one. Sorry for jumping in, but shouldn't this one be /etc/resolv.conf (without the 'e')? > > /CrPy Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] my first alsa install: segfault?
Hello, I've got a similar Dell-PC (same Chipset and Soundcard listed by lspci). Mine is working just fine with Alsa. My wild guess: - Perhaps aggressive CFLAGS (-mcpu=pentium4 or -march=pentium4, see /etc/make.conf)? - Do you have acpi enabled? I have. Afaik IRQ-Routing is handled different, when using it. HTH Michael Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2003 15:54 schrieb daniel: > On July 16, 2003 12:08 pm, Joe Stone wrote: > > hi ! > > > > could you please send the output from lspci ? > > sure anything to get my tunes back: > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] Chipset Host > Bridge (rev 03) > 00:02.0 Display controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] Chipset > Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) > 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #1) (rev 02) > 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #2) (rev 02) > 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #3) (rev 02) > 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB2 (rev 02) > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev 82) > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DB LPC Interface Controller (rev 02) > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller > (rev 02) > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM SMBus Controller (rev 02) > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB AC'97 Audio > Controller (rev 02) > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY > [Radeon 7000/VE] > 01:09.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev > 01) > > > I think you have 4 devices on the same irq. > > And in the past this meant problems. > > It may be, that computers are smart enough today, but I don't think so. > > > > Can you check in the BIOS if resources are controlled by Auto (or > > similar) Do you have assigned IRQ's manually to ISA or can the be > > assigned with pnp ? > > i checked the bios, but these damn dells... everything is friendly. > there's no mention if irq's and only mention of the on board sound is > "enable/disable". > > > During POST, my computers show a table named PCI device listing. There is > > each PCI-device with the used IRQ. could you check if this assignment is > > the same linux uses? > > again, this dell doesn't have such a thing. it just goes right from the > ram count to grub. does the output of lspci help at all? > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver 0.9.5 - any ebuild yet?
Hello, Am Dienstag, 15. Juli 2003 19:59 schrieb Mark Knecht: > Hi, >I don't know how to check things like masked packages yet, but there has > been a new alsa-driver package on CVS for a few weeks now. Is there and > ebuild for it? I'm not finding it yet. Yes, there is a ebuild for alsa-0.9.5 in portage. I'm using it with success on a SoundblasterPCI, a Terratec EWS88MT, an Intel (i8x0) and on my Notebook with a Sis-Chipset (630, uses Trident-Module). I have it, cause I'm ~x86 ;-) >If there is one, how would I get it? I'm using > emerge -p --deep world to look right now. I think a ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~86" emerge -p alsa-driver would do the trick. You can always look in /usr/portage// to see, if there are updates to packages you are interested in. > Thanks, > Mark HTH Michael > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot after install L 02
Hello Robin, Am Montag, 7. Juli 2003 15:45 schrieb Robin Rowe: > Michael, > Changing LILO root to /dev/hda3 made no difference. Other ideas? Not yet ;-) > How is lilo.conf supposed to work with the recommended partition layout? I > haven't created a setup like this before where the boot image is on an > optionally mounted separate partition. What does LILO do with > /boot/bzImage? How does it know that refers to /dev/hda1? Since > /boot/bzImage is a temporary mount/chroot during installation, and not > really on /boot of /dev/hda3, why should 'image = /boot/bzImage' work? Well, I do not know how lilo works exactly, but afaik it remembers where your kernel-image resides physically. When you mount your /dev/hda1 to /boot, copy bzImage to it and call /sbin/lilo, lilo looks in lilo.conf, finds the line "image = /boot/bzImage" and remembers the position of it on your harddisk. That's why you have to call /sbin/lilo every time you installed a new kernel, even if the new one has the same name. My setup looks like follows: /dev/hda1 /boot /dev/hda6 / lilo.conf is: image = /boot/vmlinuz root = /dev/hda6 vga= 791 label = Gentoo It works perfectly. Michael > Cheers, > Robin > --- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hollywood, California > www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing software > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Schreckenbauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 1:13 AM > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot after install L 02 > > > Hello, > > > > Am Montag, 7. Juli 2003 08:35 schrieb Robin Rowe: > > > Partitions: > > > /dev/hda1 100MB boot > > > /dev/hda2 512MB swap > > > /dev/hda3 4GB root > > > > > > Relevant parts of lilo.conf: > > > > > > boot = /dev/hda > > > > > > image = /boot/bzImage > > > root = /dev/hda1 > > > > This one should be: > > root = /dev/hda3 > > > > Dont forget to rerun lilo after changing this (also mount your > > boot-partition) > > > > I'm guessing I have LILO wrong. What should it be? > > > > See above ;-) > > > > HTH, Greets > > Michael > > > > > Thanks, > > > Robin > > > > - > >- > > - > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hollywood, California > > > www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing > > > software > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot after install L 02
Hello, Am Montag, 7. Juli 2003 08:35 schrieb Robin Rowe: > Partitions: > /dev/hda1 100MB boot > /dev/hda2 512MB swap > /dev/hda3 4GB root > > Relevant parts of lilo.conf: > > boot = /dev/hda > > image = /boot/bzImage > root = /dev/hda1 This one should be: root = /dev/hda3 Dont forget to rerun lilo after changing this (also mount your boot-partition) > I'm guessing I have LILO wrong. What should it be? See above ;-) HTH, Greets Michael > Thanks, > Robin > --- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hollywood, California > www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing software > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lilo and 2 windows
Am Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2003 18:50 schrieb Kees Bergwerf: > Op donderdag 12 juni 2003 11:22, schreef Zack Gilburd: > > > How can I configure lilo so that I can choose between 2 windows > > > > I believe this is explained in the installation docs. I know they > > explain how to set up dual booting between Gentoo and Win, so I would > > guess it's just a matter of repeating the Win entry again. > > With 2 windows, when starting the 2nd windows, the 1st windows partition > must be made invisible or else the 2nd partition will not be C: > So the trick is: how to hide a partition. Is that possible with lilo > > > --Kees > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Hello Kees, I have something like this in my lilo.conf: # second DOS bootable partition config begins other = /dev/hdb1 label = Windows2 table = /dev/hdb map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 This makes /dev/hdb to drive C and /dev/hda to drive D in a windows installation. First DOS Sections reads as described in docs. It resides on /dev/hda. Second Windows installation is on /dev/hdb. HTH Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
