Re: [gentoo-user] how to enable glx

2006-03-10 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 10 March 2006 03:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I enabled the glx, but it seems the speed is still slow.

 $ glxinfo | grep rendering
 direct rendering: Yes

 The output of glxgears is about 130 FPS.
 I use intel_agp.

As I have stated before I get around 230 FPS when [EMAIL PROTECTED] is running 
and it jumps 
to around 1300 FPS when I stop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing else changed. This is 
an Radeon 
9000 Mobility. Make sure you have nothing else running and see if that makes 
a difference.

~ $ glxgears
1001 frames in 5.0 seconds = 200.200 FPS
1136 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.200 FPS
1186 frames in 5.0 seconds = 237.200 FPS
1149 frames in 5.0 seconds = 229.800 FPS
1185 frames in 5.0 seconds = 237.000 FPS

~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/foldingathome stop
 * Stopping [EMAIL PROTECTED] on CPU 1 ...  

  
[ ok ]
~ $ glxgears
6299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1259.800 FPS
6744 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1348.800 FPS
6941 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1388.200 FPS
6897 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1379.400 FPS
6801 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1360.200 FPS

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Peter van Eck



A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman wrote:


Well I can't get the live cd to boot so I'll check back in a year to see
if Gentoo has it's act togather yet. I do look forward to running Gentoo,
someday.
Alvin

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I 've had 2006.0 livecd freezes as well...first time on a machine that 
had no troubles whatsoever with the previous releases..


By frozen I mean : Booting the default kernel with or wouth framebuffer 
stops at copying

to the tmpfs into ram

So I can confirm it may have some bugs for certain hardware...
in my case :

a via board based system.

Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400/A] Chipset Host Bridge
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8118


rgds,

Peter


P.S. The minimal CD worked just fine !!!

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[gentoo-user] Re: Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Ghaith Hachem
i've run the live cd and the installer on my MSI neo4 with amd athlon
64 3000+  and 1GB of RAM with no errors.. i just ran into a problem
that i made myself by canceling the installation while still
partitioning the system it deleted the partitions but that was easliy
fixed.
a bug in the installer is that it hangs when installing ssmtp but if
you want to install the system just install the packages marked GRP to
get a workign system and boot it and emerge whatever package you
need..
i personally liked the old isntallation method more it gave me great
experience but if you're in a rush and want the system to just work
the installer is perfect

On 3/10/06, Peter van Eck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman wrote:

 Well I can't get the live cd to boot so I'll check back in a year to see
 if Gentoo has it's act togather yet. I do look forward to running Gentoo,
 someday.
 Alvin
 
 For the best jerky you've ever had go to
 http://alk.jerkydirect.com/
 My home page
 http://ka9qlq.tripod.com
 This PC is windows free with Mepis Linux 3.4-3
 http://www.mepis.org/
 1(747)632-4973 SIP
 Get Gizmo 1 cent per minuet calling
 http://www.gizmoproject.com/
 
 

 I 've had 2006.0 livecd freezes as well...first time on a machine that
 had no troubles whatsoever with the previous releases..

 By frozen I mean : Booting the default kernel with or wouth framebuffer
 stops at copying
  to the tmpfs into ram

 So I can confirm it may have some bugs for certain hardware...
 in my case :

 a via board based system.

 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400/A] Chipset Host Bridge
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8118


 rgds,

 Peter


 P.S. The minimal CD worked just fine !!!

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[gentoo-user] Re: moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On 3/10/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
I have an out of disk space problem machine. It looks like moving
 /usr to a new partition would be the best thing to do. How can I do
 this safely?

 Thanks,
 Mark


Very sorry to answer my own post. I found this link in the forums:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=121164

I'll  proceed in this manner unless I hear back that there is some
problem with doing it this way.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Rsync backup problem2

2006-03-10 Thread Paul Stear
On Friday 10 Mar 2006 14:42, Harry Putnam wrote:
snip

 I don't really understand the relationship between what you call a
 server and the actual disks.  How is it different from just having the
 disks on an USB port?
The external USB discs have a USB connector that plugs into the Linksys 
network storage box, that in turn is connected to my network switch as are my 
linux and my windows boxes.
I will disconnect one of the drives and connected it to my linux box's USB 
port and see if I can glean any more information.

snip

 I suggest you take this question in as succinct a format as you can to
 the rsync list.  I suspect some of the experts there will recognize
 this right off the bat.  It can be accessed thru gmane.
Thanks, I will post a question and let you know the answer.

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Ghaith Hachem
i think this should be easy,
make the new partition copy the contenet of /usr to it
change your fstab to include the new modifications
i'm not sure how to delete the old one after it's mounted maybe mount
-o bind? or just boot a live cd and delete the content of your old
/usr from there when you restart it shoudl be working fine

On 3/10/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
   I have an out of disk space problem machine. It looks like moving
 /usr to a new partition would be the best thing to do. How can I do
 this safely?

 Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to track this down (emerge of amaya)

2006-03-10 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:49:28 -0600 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Attempting to emerge www-client/amaya
 The tail end of emerge shows:
 
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: ../redland/raptor/.libs/libraptor.a: No such
 file or directory make[1]: *** [../bin/amaya] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/amaya-8.7/work/Amaya/LINUX-ELF/amaya' make: ***
 [amaya_prog] Error 2
 
 !!! ERROR: www-client/amaya-8.7 failed.
 
 media-libs/raptor is installed.
 
 How to track this down?

The ebuild needs a fix, or even better: upstream needs to be fixed.
It's mentioned in bugzilla already (gentoo bugzilla, that is).

I helped myself by compiling manually. The same problem occurs, but you
can simply change the directory to Amaya/WX/redland/raptor, type
make, return to Amaya/WX/amaya and continue building with another
make. This would also give you a more current version of amaya, the
one in portage is a little bit older.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Holly Bostick
A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman schreef:
 It recognises my Nvida card [fx 5200] but when you get to the stage
 where the icons dissapear as stuff loads, when the last one goes the
 monitor shuts off. as is't booting from a cd there's no error log and
 nofb didn't help.
 
 Like I said some day Gentoo will get there, but right now it's not
 stable.

The graphical installer is not the distribution. The fact that the
installer doesn't work for you is not the same as Gentoo is not stable.

The graphical installer is indeed not stable, but we all knew that (or
we would have if we read the release notes).

Is there some reason that you can't use the current CD to install in the
traditional manner (without X), or with an ncurses interface (again,
without X), or conversely use the previous install CD (that doesn't have
a graphical installer), to install Gentoo?

Also, you might check the forums and bugs.gentoo.org to see if this is a
known problem (you seem to be not the first having signal loss from the
install CD on this list) and if there is a workaround.

Or you could just go on as you are doing and blow us off as unstable.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] lost partition table

2006-03-10 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Ghaith,
on Thursday, 2006-03-09 at 06:52:38, you wrote:
 help, it seems the gentoo installer deleted my home partition
 fdisk don't show it what can i do?
 is there a way to restore it

gpart is the tool for that. If nothing works any more, you can use
Knoppix or something. Then just start gpart on your disk, let it grind
away for a while, and then check the (usually several) partition layouts
it finds for one you recognize. It's been a while since I used it but
AFAIR it can restore a certain MBR layout you select. If not, you have
to recreate it in fdisk.

cheers!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Michael Crute
On 3/10/06, A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like I said some day Gentoo will get there, but right now it's not stable.

Holy crap... good thing you are here to tell me this... guess I will
have to pull Gentoo off of all my 1/2 dozen or so production servers
and go back to Fedora!

flame
In all seriousness, if your too lazy to sit down with the minimal CD
and a pile of docs for your first install then Gentoo is probably NOT
for you. Also, there is no reason to go about insulting the developers
by making blind statements about the stability of their software.
Sheesh.
/flame

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Re: [gentoo-user] weird error messages

2006-03-10 Thread znx
All those entries are stored in
/etc/login.defs

I guess they are set wrong?

Here is it without comments:
FAIL_DELAY  3
FAILLOG_ENAByes
LOG_UNKFAIL_ENABno
LASTLOG_ENAByes
MOTD_FILE   /etc/motd
TTYTYPE_FILE/etc/ttytype
FTMP_FILE   /var/log/btmp
HUSHLOGIN_FILE  .hushlogin
ENV_PATH/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
ENV_ROOTPATH/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
ENV_SUPATH  /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
TTYGROUPtty
TTYPERM 0600
PASS_MAX_DAYS   9
PASS_MIN_DAYS   0
PASS_MIN_LEN5
PASS_WARN_AGE   7
UID_MIN  1000
UID_MAX 6
GID_MIN   100
GID_MAX 6
LOGIN_RETRIES3
LOGIN_TIMEOUT   60
CHFN_AUTH   yes
CHFN_RESTRICT   rwh

..
Mark

On 10/03/06, nick thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
   When I logged into my box just now I received the following error
 messages:



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ su
  Password:
  configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'MOTD_FILE' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_ROOTPATH' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MIN_LEN' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
  jaguar npt #


  Can someone tell me what I messed up, and possibly how to fix it? I have
 been emerging a lot of stuff and doing all sorts of stuff to my box for the
 last few days and I really don't know what this relates to. Thanks for any
 help.

  Nick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Dave Moore
 Gentoo is pretty stable.. the installer isn't
 try the old way it's way better and makes you more familiar with your system

I just finished (about a week ago) my first non-binary install of a
linux distribution, compiling from a stage3, starting with the 2006.0
Gentoo Minimal Install CD. As someone who is still relatively new to
Linux, I can attest that this was not very difficult, it simply
requires patience and a lot of looking things up. Now that I've got my
system up and running, I couldn't be happier

I'd recommend trying this route, I'm glad I did. If I had gone with a
graphical installer, I wouldn't know half of what I know now about
Gentoo.. it was a great learning process.

Dave

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Sergio Polini
Mark Knecht:
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=121164
 
 I'll proceed in this manner unless I hear back that there is some
 problem with doing it this way.

There are several hints in that topic.
I did move my /usr to a new partition, so I'ld say:
1. create and format your new partition;
2. mount your new partition in /mnt/whatever;
3. copy the content of your /usr into this partition by:
cp -a /usr/* /mnt/whatever (the -a option is important; look at man
cp);
4. reboot frome a livecd;
5. mount your root filesystem and edit /etc/fstab:
/dev/hdXY /usr etc.
6. reboot from the hard disk to be sure that your new partition is well
mounted and works; run mount to check that /usr is on your new
partition; test this in other ways to be really sure ;-)
7. reboot again from a live cd;
8. mount your root filesystem in /mnt/something;
9. delete the old /usr directory to free the unused space:
cd /mnt/something/usr
rm -rf *
NB: do not delete /usr itself, just its contents, as /usr is the mount
point for the new partition;
10. cross your fingers and reboot from the hard disk ;-)

HTH
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RE: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Moser, Dan
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:35 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now
 
  Gentoo is pretty stable.. the installer isn't try the old 
 way it's way 
  better and makes you more familiar with your system
 
 I just finished (about a week ago) my first non-binary 
 install of a linux distribution, compiling from a stage3, 
 starting with the 2006.0 Gentoo Minimal Install CD. As 
 someone who is still relatively new to Linux, I can attest 
 that this was not very difficult, it simply requires patience 
 and a lot of looking things up. Now that I've got my system 
 up and running, I couldn't be happier
 
 I'd recommend trying this route, I'm glad I did. If I had 
 gone with a graphical installer, I wouldn't know half of what 
 I know now about Gentoo.. it was a great learning process.
 
 Dave

I second Dave's opinion.

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Re: [gentoo-user] weird error messages

2006-03-10 Thread James Ausmus
It sounds like either bash or baselayout was upgraded recently. Login
as root and run etc-update, merge your configuraation changes
appropriately, and you should be good to go.

HTH-

James


On 3/9/06, nick thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
   When I logged into my box just now I received the following error
 messages:



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ su
  Password:
  configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'MOTD_FILE' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_ROOTPATH' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MIN_LEN' (notify administrator)
  configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
  jaguar npt #


  Can someone tell me what I messed up, and possibly how to fix it? I have
 been emerging a lot of stuff and doing all sorts of stuff to my box for the
 last few days and I really don't know what this relates to. Thanks for any
 help.

  Nick


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Re: [FIXED] Re: [gentoo-user] newbie livecd installation dual boot problems

2006-03-10 Thread Travis Osterman
I am a jfs user as well and would recommend (especially on a laptop)
to add the line that was recommended above:

 root (hd0,1)
 kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda2

to the bottom of your /boot/grub/grub.conf.  Often when I hard reboot
(power failures, etc), reading the bootsplash stuff seems to take
priority over checking the fs.  The simple solution for me is to leave
a non-nonsense 'failsafe' line in grub and boot into it so that my fs
gets repaired and then reboot normally.  You could achieve the same
thing by editting the grub command at boot, but this seems like a
simple alternative.  HTH.

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 10 March 2006 15:53, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
I have an out of disk space problem machine. It looks like moving
 /usr to a new partition would be the best thing to do. How can I do
 this safely?

go to the suse support database.

Look up your question.

They recommend tar (I did it once with their instructions and it worked 
perfectly).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Ralph Slooten
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Mark Knecht wrote:
 Very sorry to answer my own post. I found this link in the forums:

Funny enough, you asked almost the exact same question on 04 June 2004!
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/83253
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On 3/10/06, Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Mark Knecht wrote:
  Very sorry to answer my own post. I found this link in the forums:

 Funny enough, you asked almost the exact same question on 04 June 2004!
 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/83253

That's hilarious! Actually, this is the same machine I was speakign
about then. However at that time I actually ended up just moving
/usr/portage and never had to follow through on that thread.

Very funny! Thanks for finding it!

Cheers,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] Re: how to track this down (emerge of amaya)

2006-03-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The ebuild needs a fix, or even better: upstream needs to be fixed.
 It's mentioned in bugzilla already (gentoo bugzilla, that is).

 I helped myself by compiling manually. The same problem occurs, but you
 can simply change the directory to Amaya/WX/redland/raptor, type
 make, return to Amaya/WX/amaya and continue building with another
 make. This would also give you a more current version of amaya, the
 one in portage is a little bit older.

Thanks... I noticed the portage version was bit aged.  And in fact I
downloaded the current version and was going to try to build it but
thought by installing the portage version first I'd sort of gaurantee
the libs needed would be on board.

Thanks for the tip about chdir and make...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Richard Fish
On 3/10/06, A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like I said some day Gentoo will get there, but right now it's not stable.

You're right, Gentoo is not 'stable' [1], and it never will be stable.
 It is functional and reliable however.  But you need to know linux,
your hardware, and unix system administration.  And a bit of
programming knowledge doesn't hurt either.  If you can't do something
with Gentoo, it is more than likely because you have not learned
enough about one of the aforementioned topics, and don't have the
patience/desire to learn.

[1] Stable implies that the system doesn't change frequently.  That
definition certainly doesn't apply to gentoo.

 Alvin

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On 3/10/06, Sergio Polini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht:
  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=121164
 
  I'll proceed in this manner unless I hear back that there is some
  problem with doing it this way.

 There are several hints in that topic.
 I did move my /usr to a new partition, so I'ld say:
 1. create and format your new partition;
 2. mount your new partition in /mnt/whatever;
 3. copy the content of your /usr into this partition by:
 cp -a /usr/* /mnt/whatever (the -a option is important; look at man
 cp);
 4. reboot frome a livecd;
 5. mount your root filesystem and edit /etc/fstab:
 /dev/hdXY /usr etc.
 6. reboot from the hard disk to be sure that your new partition is well
 mounted and works; run mount to check that /usr is on your new
 partition; test this in other ways to be really sure ;-)
 7. reboot again from a live cd;
 8. mount your root filesystem in /mnt/something;
 9. delete the old /usr directory to free the unused space:
 cd /mnt/something/usr
 rm -rf *
 NB: do not delete /usr itself, just its contents, as /usr is the mount
 point for the new partition;
 10. cross your fingers and reboot from the hard disk ;-)

 HTH
 Sergio

Well...I did my best, but it wasn't good enough. The machine no longer
boots to any level that a user could use. I'm told there are lots of
messages on the screen about being unable to find files. (/usr/bin,
/usr/sbin sort of things...)

To bad for me...I guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend.

I'm hoping they can find their Gentoo install disk, boot the machine
and get it on the network with sshd running. That will give me a
fighting chance of getting the darn thing fixed.

Thanks to all for the help. I'm sure it was something stupid on my
part and not anyone's instructions.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mark Knecht wrote:

 Well...I did my best, but it wasn't good enough. The machine no longer
 boots to any level that a user could use.

Now that you've broke it, I'd like to suggest to learn
and refrain from using old fashioned partitioning. Instead,
I'd strongly suggest to use LVM instead. With LVM, it's
no problem at all to increase the size of filesystems.
Actually, the proper use of LVM includes that the filesystems
will be increased when there's need; with LVM, it's normally
suggested to make the filesystems as small as needed and
then add space on them, when required.

I'd suggest to read the LVM howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/

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[gentoo-user] DFE-580TX

2006-03-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

did anyone here get the D-Link multiport ethernet card DFE-580TX to work on 
gentoo with kernel 2.6.15 or, preferably, 2.6.14?

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[gentoo-user] Re: how to track this down (emerge of amaya)

2006-03-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I helped myself by compiling manually. The same problem occurs, but you
 can simply change the directory to Amaya/WX/redland/raptor, type
 make, return to Amaya/WX/amaya and continue building with another
 make. This would also give you a more current version of amaya, the
 one in portage is a little bit older.

 Thanks... I noticed the portage version was bit aged.  And in fact I
 downloaded the current version and was going to try to build it but
 thought by installing the portage version first I'd sort of gaurantee
 the libs needed would be on board.

 Thanks for the tip about chdir and make...

What did you do about Mesa? Just leave it out.  I see the Mesa libs
are masked even though I'm running ~x86 enabled in /etc/make.conf

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Eric Bliss
On Friday 10 March 2006 09:43, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Well...I did my best, but it wasn't good enough. The machine no longer
 boots to any level that a user could use. I'm told there are lots of
 messages on the screen about being unable to find files. (/usr/bin,
 /usr/sbin sort of things...)
 
 To bad for me...I guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend.
 
 I'm hoping they can find their Gentoo install disk, boot the machine
 and get it on the network with sshd running. That will give me a
 fighting chance of getting the darn thing fixed.
 
 Thanks to all for the help. I'm sure it was something stupid on my
 part and not anyone's instructions.
 
 Cheers,
 Mark
 

Before you do that...  did you also edit /etc/mtab in addition to /etc/fstab?

Just a thought, since we are talking about separate partitions to mount.

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[gentoo-user] Back in the soup [circular mask problem]

2006-03-10 Thread Harry Putnam
I've hit this problem before but never did have to get it sorted
because the package I was after was actually installed already.

I'm installing amaya by hand since the ebuild fails and its pretty old
anyway. 

I need Mesa libs onboard  (its not mandatory ) so looking at partage
for mesa libs I find:
 media-libs/mesa [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 6.4.2-r1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 8,534 kB
  Homepage:http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net/
  Description: OpenGL-like graphic library for Linux
  License: LGPL-2

Ok, so far so good.  I'm running iwth ~x86 enabled in /etc/make.conf
so this should work.. I'm thinking but it doesn't

root # emerge -vp  media-libs/mesa
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
  Calculating dependencies   
  !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy media-libs/mesa have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete
  your request:
  - media-libs/mesa-6.4.2-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
  # Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] (07 Aug 2005)
  # Modularized X, upstream release candidates

And the advice:
  For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man
  page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.


Ok, Its the only ebuild available 
and following that advice for ever will not explain how to get aroud
this circular masking problem.

Its probably simple enough but not apparent to me.


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RE: [gentoo-user] antivirus

2006-03-10 Thread Bob Young


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:12 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] antivirus

  -Original Message-
  From: Bob Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 08 March 2006 21:05
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] antivirus
 
 [snip]
  As to insert App Name here not running without Admin
  rights, most of those
  cases can be taken care of with RunAs. It's better to run a
  single App with
  Admin privledges rather than have all apps including email
  and browsers
  running with Admin rights.

 Actually, it would be better to troubleshoot the particular application
 and allow it write/execute or modify rights *only* to the files it needs
 to access for the particular plain user (typically some files or a
 folder under C:\Program Files).

In most cases it's not blocked file writes that cause these apps to fail,
it's blocked access to registry keys. In many cases, I'm convinced it's
simply a matter of the app incorrectly specifying read/write access to a
value or key that it really only needs read access to. It would be
inappropiate and dangerous to grant registry write permissions to regular
users, even just for certain keys or subsections, just to fix one or two
badly designed apps.

If it were just a matter of writing to files under the Program Files
directory, then the apps would work under a PowerUser account, and yet there
are indeed badly designed apps that fail to run as a PowerUser, but work
fine when executed with Admin rights.


 It may take some time to set up access rights for all such badly written
 apps, but it'll keep your M$Windoze box as safe as it will ever be.  If
 in addition you shut down all the open by default Windoze ports
 (135-139, 445, 500, 1900, 4000 + remote admin) and disable

I agree that a properly configured firewall is important to system security
on any machine with a public IP address, that's true regardless of what
operating system is running on it.

 unnecessary/dangerous services and also stop using OE and IE (or at
 least stop using them with their default settings) you should be safe
 enough going about your normal business.

I've never used OE under Windows, I consider it a throw away app, I find the
full version of Outlook much more capable. As to the defaults for it and IE,
I'd agree that it's possible to choose more lockedown settings. I'm less
concerned about this if they are running under a non Admin account and are
behind a decently configured firewall. Personally I find html email much
more readable and expressive than bland ASCII text, that being said, neither
I nor my wife open unknown/untrusted attachments. WRT IE, I enable/disable
scripting/ActiveX depending on what I'm doing and what I know about my
destination(s).

Regards,
Bob Young





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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Josh Helmer
On Friday 10 March 2006 18:05, Eric Bliss wrote:
 Before you do that...  did you also edit /etc/mtab in addition to
 /etc/fstab?

 Just a thought, since we are talking about separate partitions to mount.

Don't touch mtab.   mtab is auto-magically generated by mount. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Back in the soup [circular mask problem]

2006-03-10 Thread Mike Williams
On Friday 10 March 2006 18:10, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Ok, Its the only ebuild available 
 and following that advice for ever will not explain how to get aroud
 this circular masking problem.

It's not a circular masking problem, mesa is package.mask'd, as in 
proper-unstable-breaks-the-tree-broken masked.

 Its probably simple enough but not apparent to me.

You could add media-libs/mesa to /etc/portage/package.unmask, but that will 
lead you into the (also package.mask'd) modularized X.
Modularized X is obviously not ready for unstable, and the version of mesa in 
the tree depends on that modularized version to work.

I don't think you are going to get mesa installed without a fair bit of 
trouble.

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Eric Bliss
On Friday 10 March 2006 03:17, Josh Helmer wrote:
 On Friday 10 March 2006 18:05, Eric Bliss wrote:
  Before you do that...  did you also edit /etc/mtab in addition to
  /etc/fstab?
 
  Just a thought, since we are talking about separate partitions to mount.
 
 Don't touch mtab.   mtab is auto-magically generated by mount. 
 
 Josh

Ah, okay.  Learn something every day.  I just remembered seeing mount 
information in that file when I was reading it (although why I was doing 
that, I now have no idea).  Guess this would explain why.  Now if only I 
could remember why I had even read the file in the past.  You don't edit it 
during the original install process do you?

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Re: [gentoo-user] DFE-580TX

2006-03-10 Thread Mike Williams
On Friday 10 March 2006 17:58, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 did anyone here get the D-Link multiport ethernet card DFE-580TX to work on
 gentoo with kernel 2.6.15 or, preferably, 2.6.14?

Well, strangely enough, I have a machine on the other desk not doing anything 
which is running 2.6.14, and 3 DFE-580TX also doing nothing (that I've also 
never used)!
Having just plugged one in and booted it up, ifconfig lists all 4 interfaces 
with the sundance module loaded.

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread John Jolet


On Mar 10, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Eric Bliss wrote:


On Friday 10 March 2006 03:17, Josh Helmer wrote:

On Friday 10 March 2006 18:05, Eric Bliss wrote:

Before you do that...  did you also edit /etc/mtab in addition to
/etc/fstab?

Just a thought, since we are talking about separate partitions to  
mount.


Don't touch mtab.   mtab is auto-magically generated by mount.

Josh


Ah, okay.  Learn something every day.  I just remembered seeing mount
information in that file when I was reading it (although why I was  
doing
that, I now have no idea).  Guess this would explain why.  Now if  
only I
could remember why I had even read the file in the past.  You don't  
edit it

during the original install process do you?

before you chroot, you copy /proc/mounts to it so your chrooted  
environment matches.maybe that's where you saw it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman
--- Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3/10/06, A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 flame
 In all seriousness, if your too lazy to sit down with the minimal CD
 and a pile of docs for your first install then Gentoo is probably NOT
 for you. Also, there is no reason to go about insulting the developers
 by making blind statements about the stability of their software.
 Sheesh.
 /flame
 
 -Mike
 
Wow! Thank You, and here all this time I though the reason I have 20% use
of one hand and can only handle a mouse was because of muscular dystrophy.
Of corse I'm sure you can install Gentoo without the need of your hands
I'm just to lasy to figure out how. 

As for insulting the developers I said I looked forward to when they had
something I [a normal person] could use and would check back in a year to
see what happens, but you were to busy playing with your chip on your
shoulder to notice that. 

Sense we're on it though, why would they put out a broken product? If you
have to install gentoo from a stage tarball why devlope a live cd that
can't even boot right? Maybe because the devlopers understand that if
gentoo is to become populare beyond the geek squad they'll have to have
something non-programmers can use. That meens taking risks and working out
bugs instead of going whaa he said my product din't work mommy.

Bill Gates can sleep good...they even have voice software [8=)
Alvin

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[gentoo-user] problems emerge'ing amavis-new

2006-03-10 Thread Nick Smith
i get this when i try to emerge amavis-new:

 Unpacking amavisd-new-2.3.3.tar.gz to
/var/tmp/portage/amavisd-new-2.3.3-r2/work
 * Patching with qmail qmqp support.
 * Applying amavisd-new-qmqpqq.patch ...  
  
 [ ok ]
 * Patching with qmail lf bug workaround.
 * Applying amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch ...

 * Failed Patch: amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch !
 *  ( 
/usr/portage/mail-filter/amavisd-new/files/amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch
)
 *
 * Include in your bugreport the contents of:
 *
 *   
/var/tmp/portage/amavisd-new-2.3.3-r2/temp/amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch-28558.out


!!! ERROR: mail-filter/amavisd-new-2.3.3-r2 failed.
!!! Function epatch, Line 350, Exitcode 0
!!! Failed Patch: amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch!
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

here is the contents of the .out file:


[14:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[/home/nick]# cat
/var/tmp/portage/amavisd-new-2.3.3-r2/temp/amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch-29392.out
* amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch *

===

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p0 -g0 --no-backup-if-mismatch 
/usr/portage/mail-filter/amavisd-new/files/amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch

===
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- amavisd-new-2.2.1/amavisd.chris2005-01-09 18:05:09.0 +0100
|+++ amavisd-new-2.2.1/amavisd  2005-01-09 18:05:47.360864816 +0100
--
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
1 out of 1 hunk ignored

===

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p1 -g0 --no-backup-if-mismatch 
/usr/portage/mail-filter/amavisd-new/files/amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch

===
patching file amavisd
Hunk #1 FAILED at 3948.
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file amavisd.rej
===

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p2 -g0 --no-backup-if-mismatch 
/usr/portage/mail-filter/amavisd-new/files/amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch

===
missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- amavisd-new-2.2.1/amavisd.chris2005-01-09 18:05:09.0 +0100
|+++ amavisd-new-2.2.1/amavisd  2005-01-09 18:05:47.360864816 +0100
--
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
1 out of 1 hunk ignored
===

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p3 -g0 --no-backup-if-mismatch 
/usr/portage/mail-filter/amavisd-new/files/amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch

===
missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- amavisd-new-2.2.1/amavisd.chris2005-01-09 18:05:09.0 +0100
|+++ amavisd-new-2.2.1/amavisd  2005-01-09 18:05:47.360864816 +0100
--
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
1 out of 1 hunk ignored
===

PATCH COMMAND:  patch -p4 -g0 --no-backup-if-mismatch 
/usr/portage/mail-filter/amavisd-new/files/amavisd-new-2.2.1-qmail-lf-workaround.patch

===
missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- amavisd-new-2.2.1/amavisd.chris2005-01-09 18:05:09.0 +0100
|+++ amavisd-new-2.2.1/amavisd  2005-01-09 18:05:47.360864816 +0100
--
No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
1 out of 1 hunk ignored


what do i need to do to correct this?

TIA

Nick

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Sergio Polini
Mark Knecht:
 Well...I did my best, but it wasn't good enough. The machine no
 longer boots to any level that a user could use. I'm told there are
 lots of messages on the screen about being unable to find files.
 (/usr/bin, /usr/sbin sort of things...)

That happened to me too ;-)
But the reason was quickly clear: I had deleted /usr instead 
of /usr/*!
Remember:

 9. delete the old /usr directory to free the unused space:
 cd /mnt/something/usr
 rm -rf *
 NB: do not delete /usr itself, just its contents, as /usr is the
 mount point for the new partition;

Let us suppose that your /etc/fstab looks like:

/dev/hda1 /boot type opts dump/pass
/dev/hda2 / type opts dump/pass
/dev/hda3 /usr type opts dump/pass

The first and simplest try: reboot from a livecd, then:

mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/something
ls /mnt/something/usr

If /mnt/something/usr doesn't exist, then:

mkdir /mnt/something/usr
reboot

You could check that the new /usr partition is there, before 
rebooting:

mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/something_else
ls /mnt/something_else

The old /usr contents should be there. Why not?
So, if your reboot doesn't work, reboot again from a livecd and 
check /etc/fstab.

Let me/us know!

Sergio
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Ralph Slooten
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Mark Knecht wrote:
 Very funny! Thanks for finding it!

LOL, well it's not really like I was trying to find it. Truth be told it
was my software that found it. I wrote a few scripts to archive all my
gentoo-user mailing to a MySQL database (88,132 emails and counting).

It got stuck on the reply from Sergio Polini, whose email doesn't
comply with the standards (doesn't contain a In-Reply-To header).

The software then checks the database for message-subjects matching the
email's, in this case finding 2 (your old one and this one), and didn't
know which to add it to, skipping it ~ that's how I spotted it ;-)

Greetings
Ralph
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Antoine
 Sense we're on it though, why would they put out a broken product? If you
 have to install gentoo from a stage tarball why devlope a live cd that
 can't even boot right? Maybe because the devlopers understand that if
 gentoo is to become populare beyond the geek squad they'll have to have
 something non-programmers can use.

I think you will find that is a minority of gentoo programmers - the
majority are just fine in geek mode - haven't you heard? the Geek will
inherit the earth.
8=}
Cheers
Antoine

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Re: [gentoo-user] DFE-580TX

2006-03-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 10 March 2006 20:19, Mike Williams wrote:
 On Friday 10 March 2006 17:58, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  did anyone here get the D-Link multiport ethernet card DFE-580TX to work
  on gentoo with kernel 2.6.15 or, preferably, 2.6.14?

 Well, strangely enough, I have a machine on the other desk not doing
 anything which is running 2.6.14, and 3 DFE-580TX also doing nothing (that
 I've also never used)!
 Having just plugged one in and booted it up, ifconfig lists all 4
 interfaces with the sundance module loaded.

How did you do that?

Here is my experience with 2.6.14-gentoo-r6.

Hardware detection works because the sundance driver gets loaded.

dmesg:
tg3.c:v3.42 (Oct 3, 2005)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :04:04.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 20
eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95705A50) rev 3003 PHY(5705)] (PCI:33MHz:32-bit) 
10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:0b:cd:e7:12:bd
eth0: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] ASF[0] Split[0] WireSpeed[0] TSOcap[1] 
eth0: dma_rwctrl[763f]
Linux Tulip driver version 1.1.13-NAPI (May 11, 2002)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :04:05.0[A] - GSI 18 (level, low) - IRQ 16
tulip0:  MII transceiver #1 config 3100 status 7849 advertising 05e1.
eth1: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at e14a4000, 00:50:BF:A9:AE:02, IRQ 16.
sundance.c:v1.01+LK1.09a 10-Jul-2003  Written by Donald Becker
  http://www.scyld.com/network/sundance.html
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :05:04.0[A] - GSI 21 (level, low) - IRQ 21
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :05:05.0[A] - GSI 18 (level, low) - IRQ 16
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :05:06.0[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :05:07.0[A] - GSI 20 (level, low) - IRQ 22

lspci:
04:04.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705_2 Gigabit 
Ethernet (rev 03)
04:05.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 
10/100 (rev 11)
04:06.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 21152 PCI-to-PCI Bridge
05:04.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet (rev 
15)
05:05.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet (rev 
15)
05:06.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet (rev 
15)
05:07.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet (rev 
15)


So it's there.

ifconfig shows only the other two interfaces eth0 and eth1 which isn't 
surprising because the ones DFE-680TX is supposed to provide aren't 
configured yet.

ls /sys/class/net only shows eth0, eth1 and lo. And there it ends.

You are saying ifconfig showed all four interfaces of that card. That means 
you actually got them configured. How?

Would you please shed some more light on this? I am under a deadline here and 
need it to work by Monday. ;-)

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am Freitag, 10. März 2006 19:44 schrieb A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman:
 Bill Gates can sleep good...they even have voice software [8=)

Stop trolling and grow up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DFE-580TX

2006-03-10 Thread Mike Williams
On Friday 10 March 2006 19:00, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 Would you please shed some more light on this? I am under a deadline here
 and need it to work by Monday. ;-)

Sure.
I booted the machine, ran genkernel to find and compile the driver, then 
restart coldplug.
ifconfig -a then listed all 5 real interfaces, only eth0 has an IP address, 
but they are there.

dmesg:
sis900.c: v1.08.08 Jan. 22 2005
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:04.0[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 17
:00:04.0: ICS LAN PHY transceiver found at address 1.
:00:04.0: Using transceiver found at address 1 as default
eth0: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xb400, IRQ 17, 00:0f:ea:ca:0c:eb.
eth0: Media Link On 100mbps full-duplex
sundance.c:v1.01+LK1.09a 10-Jul-2003  Written by Donald Becker
  http://www.scyld.com/network/sundance.html
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:04.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 22
eth1: D-Link DFE-580TX 4 port Server Adapter at 0001a000, 00:0d:88:c6:0b:90, 
IRQ 22.
eth1: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7809 advertising 01e1.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:05.0[A] - GSI 18 (level, low) - IRQ 23
eth2: D-Link DFE-580TX 4 port Server Adapter at 0001a400, 00:0d:88:c6:0b:91, 
IRQ 23.
eth2: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7809 advertising 01e1.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:06.0[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 17
eth3: D-Link DFE-580TX 4 port Server Adapter at 0001a800, 00:0d:88:c6:0b:92, 
IRQ 17.
eth3: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7809 advertising 01e1.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:07.0[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16
eth4: D-Link DFE-580TX 4 port Server Adapter at 0001ac00, 00:0d:88:c6:0b:93, 
IRQ 16.
eth4: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7809 advertising 01e1.

lspci:
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast 
Ethernet (rev 90)
02:04.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet (rev 
14)
02:05.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet (rev 
14)
02:06.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet (rev 
14)
02:07.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet (rev 
14)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Holly Bostick
A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman schreef:
 As for insulting the developers I said I looked forward to when they
  had something I [a normal person] could use

You know, it just occurs to me to question this often-heard assumption
that non-geek=normal -- with geek being defined by these so-called
normal people.

Is it not normal to want to understand what you're doing when
installing an OS?

Is it normal to object (vociferously, usually) to having to read the
instructions before attempting to perform a complex technical procedure?

Is it normal to think that click a fancy button and everything just
works is the way things are *supposed* to be, when dealing with a
complex technical operation?

I personally don't think so, but then again I'm a geek, apparently,
and I don't know what normal is, anyway, since I'm apparently not.

Not to be rude, but if I was normal, I suppose I would understand how
one can be a normal person and severely disabled in the same paragraph,
since these conditions either have no relationship to each other (in
which case there was no need for the I'm disabled trump card), or
contradict each other (in which case the speaker looks like a.
person who smells of elderberries).

But of course, I'm out of here; pointless flame-fests are not my idea of
a fun Friday night.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] moving /usr

2006-03-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On 3/10/06, Sergio Polini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht:
  Well...I did my best, but it wasn't good enough. The machine no
  longer boots to any level that a user could use. I'm told there are
  lots of messages on the screen about being unable to find files.
  (/usr/bin, /usr/sbin sort of things...)

 That happened to me too ;-)
 But the reason was quickly clear: I had deleted /usr instead
 of /usr/*!
 Remember:

OK, so far I cannot get into the machine so I don't know how to double
check that but I'm pretty sure I didn't do this.

The issue in and around these instructions, for me was that:

1) I'm in a completely out of disk space situation
2) I'm trying to move /usr
3) /usr includes /usr/bin and /usr/sbin which is where all commands
are to basically use the machine and make the changes. (mv, cp, ls and
all the normal stuff.)

so I

1) Copied everything to the new partition
2) Removed everything from the original /usr except /usr/bin and
/usr/lib. The only copy of /usr/sbin is on the new partition. /usr/lib
had to remain for me to use vim to edit fstab.
3) The new partition was labeled using e2label
4) fstab was edited to mount the new partition at the existing /usr
direcotry which still contained /usr/bin and /usr/lib
5) As a backup, since I had removed most of /usr to create space I now
made a new directory /usrBACKUP and placed a copy of what was left in
/usr there so I could get to it if I needed to.
6) Unmounted /mnt/usr_temp and rebooted.

The messages (I'm told over the phone by a 78 year old man who is hard
of hearing) are in and around not being able to find /usr/sbin. I
don't know what they really say as we didn't try to get that detailed.

He has decided to ship the machine to me via FedEx and I'll have to
fix it here when it arrives. He didn't want to mess with Knoppix or
the Gentoo install disk as he felt it was way beyond what he could do.

Again, thanks for the ideas below, but since the machine is 350 miles
away it's hard to do the experiements below. I'll do them when it
arrives next week.

Cheers,
Mark


  9. delete the old /usr directory to free the unused space:
  cd /mnt/something/usr
  rm -rf *
  NB: do not delete /usr itself, just its contents, as /usr is the
  mount point for the new partition;

 Let us suppose that your /etc/fstab looks like:

 /dev/hda1 /boot type opts dump/pass
 /dev/hda2 / type opts dump/pass
 /dev/hda3 /usr type opts dump/pass

 The first and simplest try: reboot from a livecd, then:

 mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/something
 ls /mnt/something/usr

 If /mnt/something/usr doesn't exist, then:

 mkdir /mnt/something/usr
 reboot

 You could check that the new /usr partition is there, before
 rebooting:

 mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/something_else
 ls /mnt/something_else

 The old /usr contents should be there. Why not?
 So, if your reboot doesn't work, reboot again from a livecd and
 check /etc/fstab.

 Let me/us know!

 Sergio
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RE: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Timothy A. Holmes

 -Original Message-
 From: Moser, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:44 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:35 AM
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now
 
   Gentoo is pretty stable.. the installer isn't try the old
  way it's way
   better and makes you more familiar with your system
 
  I just finished (about a week ago) my first non-binary
  install of a linux distribution, compiling from a stage3,
  starting with the 2006.0 Gentoo Minimal Install CD. As
  someone who is still relatively new to Linux, I can attest
  that this was not very difficult, it simply requires patience
  and a lot of looking things up. Now that I've got my system
  up and running, I couldn't be happier
 
  I'd recommend trying this route, I'm glad I did. If I had
  gone with a graphical installer, I wouldn't know half of what
  I know now about Gentoo.. it was a great learning process.
 
  Dave
 
 I second Dave's opinion.

[Timothy A. Holmes] 
At the risk of piling on opinions, I agree as well, after doing 15 or so
compiled installs, I have moved to the installer for the simple fact of
needing to speed up my deployment.  My only complaint with the compiled
installation is that it takes a lot of time, I cannot just sit down get
it going and move on to other tasks.  It is faster for me to do the
graphical install (all the effort is at the front end) and then just
turn it loose,  if I need to later, I can rework the kernel and install
that.  It may not be the ideal deployment strategy, but it appears to be
working reasonably well.

TIM





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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Dave Moore
 But of course, I'm out of here; pointless flame-fests are not my idea of
 a fun Friday night.

Well said.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman
-- Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At the risk of piling on opinions, I agree as well, after doing 15 or so
 compiled installs, I have moved to the installer for the simple fact of
 needing to speed up my deployment.  My only complaint with the compiled
 installation is that it takes a lot of time, I cannot just sit down get
 it going and move on to other tasks.  It is faster for me to do the
 graphical install (all the effort is at the front end) and then just
 turn it loose,  if I need to later, I can rework the kernel and install
 that.  It may not be the ideal deployment strategy, but it appears to be
 working reasonably well.
 
 TIM

Thank you Tim, I like to tinker and learn too, but sometime it's nice to
just start the car with out having to rebuild it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 20:32 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
 A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman schreef:
  As for insulting the developers I said I looked forward to when they
   had something I [a normal person] could use
 
 You know, it just occurs to me to question this often-heard assumption
 that non-geek=normal -- with geek being defined by these so-called
 normal people.
 
 Is it not normal to want to understand what you're doing when
 installing an OS?
 
 Is it normal to object (vociferously, usually) to having to read the
 instructions before attempting to perform a complex technical procedure?
 
 Is it normal to think that click a fancy button and everything just
 works is the way things are *supposed* to be, when dealing with a
 complex technical operation?
 
 I personally don't think so, but then again I'm a geek, apparently,
 and I don't know what normal is, anyway, since I'm apparently not.
 
 Not to be rude, but if I was normal, I suppose I would understand how
 one can be a normal person and severely disabled in the same paragraph,
 since these conditions either have no relationship to each other (in
 which case there was no need for the I'm disabled trump card), or
 contradict each other (in which case the speaker looks like a.
 person who smells of elderberries).
 
 But of course, I'm out of here; pointless flame-fests are not my idea of
 a fun Friday night.
 
 Holly

Amen to that.  The US government has labelled me mentally disabled,
and I still managed to successfully install Gentoo on three different
PCs...  If someone like me can do it, anyone can.  

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[gentoo-user] Drive Failing?

2006-03-10 Thread Ash Varma




Hi.

I get the following error in my logs.. Should I be looking at replacing this drive.. This is on a machine that has been up for well in excess of 2 years at this stage..

Thanks

WARNING: Kernel Errors Present
 end_request: I/O error, dev 03:05 (hda)...: 1 Time(s)
 hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { Uncorrect...: 1 Time(s)
 hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }...: 1 Time(s)


Mar 10 23:50:11 hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Mar 10 23:50:11 hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=6579533, high=0, low=6579533, sector=1952744 
Mar 10 23:50:11 end_request: I/O error, dev 03:05 (hda), sector 1952744 





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Re: [gentoo-user] Drive Failing?

2006-03-10 Thread Ash Varma




On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 15:44 -0500, Michael Crute wrote:


It may not be the drive. I would start by checking the ribbon cable
and replacing that before you go out and buy a new drive.



OK Thanks..
Will do..





Re: [gentoo-user] Back in the soup [circular mask problem]

2006-03-10 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Harry Putnam wrote:
 I need Mesa libs onboard  (its not mandatory ) so looking at
 partage for mesa libs I find:
  media-libs/mesa [ Masked ]
   Latest version available: 6.4.2-r1
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]

If you have xorg-6.8.2 installed, then you already have Mesa on 
board:

  equery files xorg-x11 | grep -i mesa

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fairwell for now

2006-03-10 Thread Alexander Skwar
Michael Sullivan wrote:

 Amen to that.  The US government has labelled me mentally disabled,
 and I still managed to successfully install Gentoo on three different
 PCs...  If someone like me can do it, anyone can.  

Well, maybe you've *GOT* to be mentally disabled to be able
to install and appreciate Gentoo? :)

SCNR,

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[gentoo-user] Re: Back in the soup [circular mask problem]

2006-03-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 equery files xorg-x11 | grep -i mesa

Yes of course, what I need is I guess the developer set with include
files. 

I've downloaded and installed most of it not they look like:

ls -F /usr/local/include/
  GL/  GLES/

/usr/local/include/GL:
GLwDrawA.hfxmesa.h glu_mangle.h  mglmesa.hxmesa.h
GLwDrawAP.h   ggimesa.hglut.hosmesa.h xmesa_x.h
GLwMDrawA.h   gl.h glutf90.h svgamesa.h   xmesa_xf86.h
GLwMDrawAP.h  gl_mangle.h  glx.h uglglutshapes.h
amesa.h   glext.h  glx_mangle.h  uglmesa.h
directfbgl.h  glfbdev.hglxext.h  vms_x_fix.h
dmesa.h   glu.hmesa_wgl.hwmesa.h


This stuff is what Amaya wants to compile... but I still  haven't got
it all pieced together... Thats why I wanted to emerge it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Rsync backup problem2

2006-03-10 Thread Ryan Tandy



2.  How do other gentoo'ers achieve backup onto a windows machine?


In my case, with dd and gzip.
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[gentoo-user] Apache security tips

2006-03-10 Thread Jim
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Hey group,

I was wondering if anyone has some easy to do tips for checking the
security of Apache.  I am running Apache/2.0.55.  Is apache good with
handling bad URL's?  I remember with an IIS server I use to have I
needed to install a url filter to help it out.  I noticed that I get
requests like the following in my apache log:

70.121.133.60 - - [07/Mar/2006:21:31:05 -0500] SEARCH
/\x90\xc9\xc9\xc9\xc9\xc9\

The above is one line and it is 30,000 characters long in the log file.

Thanks for any tips,

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to enable glx

2006-03-10 Thread Ryan Tandy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I enabled the glx, but it seems the speed is still slow.

 $ glxinfo | grep rendering
 direct rendering: Yes

 The output of glxgears is about 130 FPS.
 I use intel_agp.

   
Yes, it's not a particularly powerful card. Since direct rendering is
now enabled, that's about as good as it'll get until such time as the
drivers improve significantly.
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Re: [gentoo-user] eth1:1 alais help

2006-03-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 10 March 2006 04:54, Mattias Merilai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 
'Re: 
[gentoo-user] eth1:1 alais help':
 Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 I have a wireless card in my laptop, setup on all my ap's it is
  assigned 192.168.14.102. My vm-ware is setup to use samba to share the
  drives on teh laptop. Now I have the necessity to use ap's that are
  set-up to use 192.168.0.nn series ip addresses, so therefore samba
  does not work properly to share those disk drives.
 
 I want to use possible an alaised eth1:1? and set it at 192.168.14.102
  somehow to get samba to work correctly, and I am lost..

 This is a snip of /etc/conf.d/net from one of my servers.

 config_eth0=(
 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255
 192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.2.255
 192.168.3.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.3.255
 )

 Works for me, but i'm not sure about the /24 netmasks - aliasing
 interfaces on my freebsd boxen i came upon the requirement to set
 netmasks of aliases to 255.255.255.255.
 Just checked out - I seem to have some trouble connecting between the
 machines. Maybe someone can point me to some good information about
 netmasks and aliases?

The documentation for iproute2 (or maybe it was the kernel...) mentions 
that all addresses assigned to a link/interface are equal and doesn't 
refer to them as aliases.  I don't remember anything in the document 
requiring /32 netmasks, so I'm fairly sure you don't need to do that.

HOWEVER, you probably do want to check your routing tables and make sure 
they are sane.  You don't want packets to have multiple outgoing routes, 
normally.

As for references.  I'd say the your best sources are the TLDP's Advanced 
Linux Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO, the iproute2 documentation (man 
pages and such), and the kernel documentation.  The TLDP's ALRaTCHT is 
incomplete in a few areas, but easier to digest than the other two.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to enable glx

2006-03-10 Thread Ryan Tandy

 As I have stated before I get around 230 FPS when [EMAIL PROTECTED] is 
 running and it jumps 
 to around 1300 FPS when I stop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing else changed. This 
 is an Radeon 
 9000 Mobility. Make sure you have nothing else running and see if that makes 
 a difference.
   
The Rage card he's using is far less powerful than any Radeon - not
surprisingly, considering that when it was current there *were* no
Radeons yet.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Back in the soup [circular mask problem]

2006-03-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 10 March 2006 18:22, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user]  Re: Back in the soup [circular mask problem]':
 Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  equery files xorg-x11 | grep -i mesa

 Yes of course, what I need is I guess the developer set with include
 files.

Does xorg-x11 not have a SDK USE flag?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Drive Failing?

2006-03-10 Thread Ryan Tandy

Ash Varma wrote:
hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error 
}...:  1 Time(s)
Every time I have ever seen this error, it has been because of a drive 
getting ready to die.  It could be the ribbon, but have a backup ready 
just in case.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Drive Failing?

2006-03-10 Thread Ash Varma




On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 18:30 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote:


Ash Varma wrote:
 hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error 
 }...:  1 Time(s)
Every time I have ever seen this error, it has been because of a drive 
getting ready to die.  It could be the ribbon, but have a backup ready 
just in case.


thanks...
ordered a new drive earlier today.. will probably take the machine offline and replace the drive...






Re: [gentoo-user] Drive Failing?

2006-03-10 Thread Joe Menola
On Friday 10 March 2006 8:37 pm, Ash Varma wrote:
 thanks...
  ordered a new drive earlier today.. will probably take the machine offline
 and replace the drive...

Keep in mind that any attempt to backup or copy this drive could be what kills 
it completely. 
My advice is don't use the drive until a replacement is available, and then 
only use it to transfer data to the new drive.
Whatever you decide, only attempt backup/transfer after the drive is over 
night cold. 

HTH-jm
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Re: [gentoo-user] Drive Failing?

2006-03-10 Thread Ash Varma




On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 20:55 -0600, Joe Menola wrote:


On Friday 10 March 2006 8:37 pm, Ash Varma wrote:
 thanks...
  ordered a new drive earlier today.. will probably take the machine offline
 and replace the drive...

Keep in mind that any attempt to backup or copy this drive could be what kills 
it completely. 
My advice is don't use the drive until a replacement is available, and then 
only use it to transfer data to the new drive.
Whatever you decide, only attempt backup/transfer after the drive is over 
night cold. 

HTH-jm


thanks for the advise..

the drive in question just holds the /boot, one of the swap partitions and my /usr/portage..
i have already disabled the swap on the drive and have a backup of the /boot stored in the attached raid array on the machine...
not too concerned about the /usr/portage

but good advise anyways :)

Thanks




[gentoo-user] Gentoo 2006.0 on HP DL580

2006-03-10 Thread Michael Madden
Has anyone gotten Gentoo 2006.0 installed using the x86
livecd installer on a HP DL580?  On my DL580,  it loads
the cciss driver and the partitions show up in /proc/partitions.
However both the console and gui installation don't find
a hard drive to partition.  The console installer crashes
while the gui install doesn't find any partitions at all.

If it helps I booted the cd with:
gentoo doscsi

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[gentoo-user] Network Speed

2006-03-10 Thread Statux
I noticed something today. For some reason, when I'm running a Gentoo
Live-CD to rebuild this system (as I am now in the finishing stages of
once again) I get really speedy data xfer rates over my cable link
pulling files from portage mirrors. I noticed that 1.2MB/s was average
which is correct because I think my ISP runs around 10Mbit or there
abouts. However, when I rebooted the machine, pulling files from the
same mirror(s) now seems to go much slower (say, 170KB/s tops). Come to
think of it, I have noticed that difference before. I never get xfer
rates normally like I do when running the live-cd.

During the install, I run net-setup and just tell it to use dhcp (my
router issues addresses which is fine when doing an install since the
system isn't really set up to be interesting to anyone else yet). When I
am all set for production again, I use the same settings, hardcoded, as
the router receives from the modem and passes to clients, just a
different address obviously.

So my question seems to be: What might the live-cd be doing which I am
not? Is it something in the kernel or could the xfer rate be throttled
somewhere, etc?

Ideas? Thanks.

-Statux



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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache security tips

2006-03-10 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 08:59:09PM -0500, Penguin Lover Jim squawked:
 I was wondering if anyone has some easy to do tips for checking the
 security of Apache.  I am running Apache/2.0.55.  Is apache good with
 handling bad URL's?  I remember with an IIS server I use to have I
 needed to install a url filter to help it out.  I noticed that I get
 requests like the following in my apache log:
 
 70.121.133.60 - - [07/Mar/2006:21:31:05 -0500] SEARCH
 /\x90\xc9\xc9\xc9\xc9\xc9\
 
 The above is one line and it is 30,000 characters long in the log file.
 

Near the end of that line should be the HTTP return code Apache gave
for that request. What is it? 

On my box it always returns 414 (Request-URI too long), so I doubt it
would be a problem, beyond a major annoyance when going through the
logs with 'less'. 

A URI string like that is almost certainly a client trying to exploit
a buffer overflow. I've never seen it being a problem with my
(limited) experience running apache. 

HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] weird error messages

2006-03-10 Thread nick thompson

James Ausmus wrote:


It sounds like either bash or baselayout was upgraded recently. Login
as root and run etc-update, merge your configuraation changes
appropriately, and you should be good to go.

HTH-

James
 



James,
etc-update did the trick. thanks to all who replied. you guys are great!

nick



On 3/9/06, nick thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Hi,
 When I logged into my box just now I received the following error
messages:



[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ su
Password:
configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'MOTD_FILE' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_ROOTPATH' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MIN_LEN' (notify administrator)
configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
jaguar npt #


Can someone tell me what I messed up, and possibly how to fix it? I have
been emerging a lot of stuff and doing all sorts of stuff to my box for the
last few days and I really don't know what this relates to. Thanks for any
help.

Nick


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