[Goanet] Diabetes

[icsouza]

From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org 
On Behalf Of Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Ivo,
You again display your acumen, carefully selecting very nuanced terminology 
like "adjunct therapy"; which many non-clinicians may not understand or 
appreciate. 
**Thank you, dear Dr.Gilbert, for your sincere encouragement. I am in the 
medical field for decades. It is good that we agree with each other and with 
the scientific research. Scientific and medical illiteracy will always be a 
problem in this Forum. That is not our problem!
 
<

Re: [Goanet] Pictures of dead Bin Laden won't be released....

[Mervyn Lobo]

Jim Fernandes wrote:
> In an interview with '60 minutes' last night, President Obama made it clear, 
> that anybody who has sympathies with bin Laden, need to get their head 
> examined.

 
 
Thank you for making my point so clear!
Every time an African leader announces that he has killed his enemy,
people climb trees around the state house, chant and start dancing,
waving tree branches in the air. While I don't think this has happened in the 
USA, such scenes are now not too far away as everyone loves a strong man, 
one who goes to his enemy's hometown and kills him. Why bother with a 
court case when everyone knows that the accused is guilty?
 
 
 
> By hunting down bin Laden, the Americans proved a point - that they 
> got the b*lls to find their enemies and send the dead men walking under 
> the seas.

 
 
 
Yep, the US is building a reputation for killing its enemies and some friends 
too. It has become exceedingly clear that every missile fired in Afghanistan in 
the past five years, was because of military b*lls and not intelligence. 
 
 
Talking about b*lls, I hope you guys have the intelligence to re-pay and not
default on the loans you took from the Chinese to finance your war b*lls er, 
bills. 
 
 
I will wind up on a happy note, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.
 
 
Mervyn1650Lobo
PS. Once again, thank you for devaluing your currency (and sending the price
of gold to record levels).

[Goanet] Free Speech and Free Expression

[Eugene Correia]

While on the debate on Free Speech, here comes the latest news that
Hindus in India are protesting against the display of Hindu goddess
Lakshmi on an one-piece swimsuit and on a bikini. The swimwear was
worn by a model during the Australian Fashion Week. The swimwear is
designed by Byron Bay’s Lisa Blue fashion house.
However, the famous fashion designer Roberto Cavalli had made similar
swimwear some years ago. The spokesman for Cavalli said that the
designer wanted to "celebrate Hindu culture."
In Lisa Blue's swimwear, the image of Lakshmi is on the backside of
the bikini bottom. The fashion house apologized and promised not to
make the swimwear available for sale anywhere in the world. A
statement included, “The use of images of Goddess Lakshmi was not in
any way a measure of calculated risk taking, simply it was a desire to
celebrate different cultures and share that through our brand.”
Lisa Blue, it is said, lived in India and should have been aware of
Hindu sensibilities. Australian yoga instructor John Ogilvie, who
studied Hinduism for 30 years, said, “There is a lot of clothing like
that in India with images of the Goddess Lakshmi. But the image of the
goddess on the bikini bottom, Hindus would consider that very
tasteless."
Many years ago the Hindus in America were in arms against a
sanitaryware company having icons of Hindu deities on toilet seats. A
US company had also started selling slippers with Hindu icons.
In 2005 the great-grandson of Mahatma Gandhi condemned the name of
Ballina-based curry house Handi Ghandi and called the Indian-accented
jingle the local business used, “very offensive.”
In Toronto, I ate at an Indian restaurant called Ghandi House.
Chatting with the owner, I told him that Gandhi would be turning in
his grave to his name used for a restaurant that served meat dishes.
He just gave me a blank sta
Years ago, Hindus in US protested against a film by Ismail Merchant,
Shakti, in which rock singer Tina Turner plays the role of goddess
Kali.

Eugene Correia

Re: [Goanet] Diabetes

[Santosh Helekar]

It is good to see that Gilbert has finally learned to copy and paste links from 
genuine medical websites such as that of Harvard Medical School, rather than 
from his usual websites such as Huffington Post that promote quackery. 
Regarding cinnamon and other untested alternative and quack nostrums, the Mayo 
Clinic website in my previous post in this thread does not recommend that they 
be used as an adjunct therapy. Please see the relevant quote below:

"Numerous substances have been shown in some studies to improve insulin 
sensitivity, yet other studies have failed to find any benefit for blood sugar 
control or in lowering A1C levels. Because of the conflicting findings, no 
alternative therapies are currently recommended for diabetes control."
The Mayo Clinic

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Sun, 5/8/11, Gilbert Lawrence  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ivo,
>  
> You again display your acumen, carefully selecting very
> nuanced terminology like "adjunct therapy"; which many
> non-clinicians may not understand or appreciate. 
>  
> Of course their ignorance is not your problem!
>  
> Using Styrofoam as a container can be a health problem (see
> link); in addition to waste-disposal of the container.
>  
> http://www.grinningplanet.com/2008/04-08/foam-cups-polystyrene-cups-article.htm
>  
> The following is a link to your question about using the
> microwave and some of the commonly used containers to
> prepare / warm the food
>  
> http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0706a.shtml
>  
> Regards, GL
>  
> - Ivo wrote:
>  
> It agrees with what I said: 1. Cinnamon can be an adjunct
> therapy. 2. Therefore, anti-diabetic drugs should be
> prescribed by modern medicine physicians. 3. There is no
> cure, either with modern medicine or with alternative
> medicine (ayurvedic and homeopathic medicines may help).
>  
> What about microwave prepared food? Is it true that many
> people, mainly women, got cancer?
>

[Goanet] Goanet Reader -- German coffers, merchant bankers of Antwerp and Genoa... and Goa (Luis de Assis Correia)

[Goanet Reader]

GERMAN COFFERS, MERCHANT BANKERS OF ANTWERP AND GENOA... AND GOA

The European Influence in Goa
and the German Contribution to
the Portuguese Trade and
Commerce in the Sixteenth and
Seventeenth and early
Eighteenth Centuries.

Luis de Assis Correia
assiscorr...@aol.com

By one of the greatest ironies of history, the Sultan of
Malindi sent an Omani plot, Shihab al-Din Ahmad ibn Majid
al-Najdi, the most celebrated Arab navigator and theorist of
navigation of the fifteenth century, popularly known as Ahmad
ibn Majid, to Vasco da Gama, and piloted by Ahmad ibn Majid,
the Portuguese caravels set sail from Malindi in late April.

They traversed the Indian Ocean and made land fall at Calicut
on May 20, 1498.  Unwittingly, ibn Majid al-Najdi, not only
helped the Portuguese in their discovery of the maritime
route to India, but also was directly responsible for the
destruction of Arab primacy in the seas and the extinction of
Arab monopoly of trade in Oriental spices.

Earlier, when the caravels weighed anchor in the Tejo on July
8, 1497, far away in the Arabian Sea, lay Goa, its citizens
unaware that just 13 years later this monumental Portuguese
voyage of discovery of the maritime route would inextricably
intertwine itself with the fate of Goans for the next
four-and-a-half centuries, after Afonso de Albuquerque's
reconquest of Goa and the subsequent transfer of the Capital
from Cochin to Goa in 1530.

  In the European context, Vasco da Gama's arrival at
  Calicut, gave India to Europe and to England. Vasco
  da Gama unknowingly became one of the three men --
  the other two were Cristovão Colombo and Fernão
  Magalhães -- who saved the Europe of the Renaissance
  and of the Reformation from being laid waste by the
  Ottoman Sultans.

MONEY FROM GERMAN MERCHANTS

Had not Vasco da Gama, twenty years before the battles and
successes of Frederick Barbarossa in the Mediterranean,
bestowed upon Portugal the riches of the East Indies, the
Habsburgh King Charles V could never have succeeded in
driving back from the frontiers of Germany and the Italian
coast, the hordes of Sulaiman Pasha, the Magnificent.

The defenders of Christendom could not have achieved the
victories had not the coffers of the German merchants and
financiers provided the money, specially the Fuggars and
Welsers operating in the Estado da India, the merchant
bankers of Antwerp and Genoa, who derived their wealth from
the newly discovered maritime route to Calicut and access to
the Portuguese naus da India-Oriental [Portuguese
merchant-men] to dominate the spice trade of South India and
the Spice Islands. With the discovery of the maritime route
to Calicut, Vasco da Gama made Lisbon and Antwerp the Emporia
of the World.

>From then on, the European nations awakened to Portugal's
riches and vied with each other to outdo the Portuguese. But
Portugal being a maritime nation of intrepid pioneers, with a
strong naval tradition, controlled the seas. The European
nations were unable to challenge the supremacy of the
Portuguese in the East during the sixteenth and early
seventeenth centuries. The Portuguese had in their employ
large numbers sailors from Cochin and Goa, and German
mercenary gunnery experts, who helped the Portuguese navy to
control the seas.

ENGLAND TAKES A KEEN INTEREST

It was only after the arrival in Goa of an English Jesuit
priest, Thomas Stephens (Tómas Estevão) on 24th October,
1579 that England began to take a keen interest in the
Portuguese Oriental spice trade. Fr. Thomas Stephens lived in
Goa for forty years. He devoted his time for the acquisition
of complete mastery of KonKani, Marathi and Sanskrit. He
wrote in Portuguese, KonKani and Marathi religious texts for
the education of the indigenous in the tenets of the
Christian faith.

  Besides, the output of Religious works, the most
  important literary activity of Fr. Thomas Stephens
  were his letters from Goa to his father, also named
  Thomas Stephens, a City of London merchant and to
  his brother, Robert Stephens. Of the many letters,
  one dated 10th November 1579 written soon after his
  arrival in Goa is preserved and included in
  Hakluyt's Voyages -- Navigation, Voyages and
  Discoveries of the English Nation, Edinburgh
  (1886); and the one written in Latin to his
  brother, Richard in Paris, is preserved in part at
  the National Library in Brussels, Belgium.

The first letter to his father, written in mercantile style.
It described the Portuguese trade in the East Indies and held
out the strongest inducements to the City of London
merchants, which spurred them to embark on East Indies trade
speculations. This was more so because Fr. Thomas Stephens
showed a remarkably thorough grasp of commercial benefits of
such an enterprise and the riches it would bring to England.

Fr. Thomas Stephens exhorted his father to urge 

[Goanet] Goa news for May 10, 2011

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*** Law panel's land acquisition policy awaiting govt approval -
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*** Karishma claims crown at Goa beauty pageant - Gulf Times
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*** Regularize power daily-wage, contract employees: Union -
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[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goan spices -- from adding flavour to health-giving properties (Alda Figueiredo)

[Goanet Reader]

GOAN SPICES: FROM ADDING FLAVOUR TO HEALTH-GIVING PROPERTIES

By Alda Figueiredo
alda_juli...@yahoo.co.uk

Delights of Goa is the new edition to my cookery book 'Fusion
Flavours' which was published only in the UK in 2005.  It was
my ambition to publish this book in Goa, and this became a
reality recently.

To give a brief about this book.  Delights of Goa covers 210
recipes from Africa, Asia and Europe and provides a fusion of
many styles of cuisine but the Goan style a major influence.

  This book is simple and easy-to-follow instructions
  ensure success every time you attempt to cook a
  recipe from the book.  Each recipe is tried and
  tested. There are dishes for all occasions,
  including starters, main courses of meat, fish, sea
  food, fresh vegetables, various salads, selected
  preserves, pickles and luscious desserts and cakes
  from three continents that I have lived in.  My
  advice to anyone who has never cooked before is to
  try first an easy recipe before attempting
  difficult ones.

In this book I have listed 15 different commonly used spices
in curries (pg 13).  Spices and seasoning perks recipes up.

Spices are not only used to give flavour to curries, but each
spice has its own health-giving properties.  I will explain a
few of them that I use in my cooking very liberally.

In Indian and Goan recipes garlic is used a lot and also in
this cookery book. Garlic was prized by Greeks, Romans and
Egyptians for its health-giving properties. It is rich in
minerals and is thought to strengthen the body against
illness. It has antibacterial, antiviral and blood-clotting
qualities, in other words it thins the blood. In the West
garlic is not appreciated because of the powerful smell on
the breath.

Another spice I often use is Cinnamon.  It is an aromatic,
warm and sweet spice used in curries, desserts and cakes.  It
is also highly antiseptic and useful for a cold and flu
remedy and can be used as a very effective mouth wash.

There are other therapeutic properties such as it improves
blood circulation and digestive system. Cumin is another
popular spice used in curries a lot. It helps to improve
digestive system.

Another spice I used extensively is cloves. It has
wonderfully warm and comforting spicy taste and aroma. When
we use spices in our cooking we do not think of any
nutritional value. In fact cloves have an amazing list of
health benefits, including vitamin A and C and minerals such
as calcium, iron, phosphorous, sodium and potassium.

In addition to the health benefits they have other
therapeutic properties and they can be used for treating a
variety of disorders e.g. toothache, mouth sores, for coughs
and colds.  Ginger, asafoetida and turmeric are all
considered digestives and are therefore thrown into pots of
beans or split peas or other pulses to fight of their
hard-to-digest stubbornness.

Food, music, love and life go hand in glove. If you love food
you will love life and trying to cook a dish of any
nationality is not a big issue, but a challenge. One
important point I would like to stress is that eating healthy
food is vital in this day-and-age, where refined and
processed foods are the cause of modern ailments.

In the West there is growing recognition that the way we eat
is not good for our health. Generally we eat too much sugar,
salt and fat and too little fibre. Measures for salt, fat and
sugar in this book are given as guide amounts only.

If you want to use less or no sugar, that is up to you. Most
recipes call simply for margarine or oil. It is best to use
unsaturated varieties such as corn, sunflower, soybean or
vegetable oils. Coconut oil or ghee are saturated fats and
normally best avoided as they can contribute to cholesterol
build-up in the body.

Incidentally, in the book I have added a special section for
the preparation of ground spices, masala and pastes, which we
use on daily basis. Ready-made spices are not fresh and can
lose it flavour because they have been sitting on the shelves
for some time. It is better to grind your own whole spices
whenever you can. Firstly, you can be sure of the quality and
contents and secondly, they will be fresher and tastier.
Lastly you can save a lot of time and money by preparing in
advance and storing them in dry and airtight jars.

  The true skill of any cooking is to learn to be
  flexible. The wonder of Goan or Indian cookery is
  its flexibility. In the beginning cooking can be
  apprehensive just like anything new we attempt
  first time. We should not be afraid if the results
  of the first and second attempt are not what you
  expect.  Once you have had a few trial runs I am
  sure you will be inventing your own dishes and
  enjoy cooking with complete easy. I hope this book
  will open up a great deal of ideas for cooking and
  that you will 

[Goanet] Talking Photos/Video : New hilly develpment at Bambolim (opp GMC)

[JoeGoaUk]

Talking Photos/Video : New hilly develpment at Bambolim (opp GMC)
 

Don't know if it Pvt or Govt
Hill cutting going on..
No Public notice board on display

Could it be a new school project (shifting of city schools?)
or another mega project?
 

http://youtu.be/pMlFX-rNMuo?hd=1
 

Pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk39/5704463656/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk39/5704469940/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk39/5703908901/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk39/5703894647/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk39/5703900265/
 

now, watch a clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMlFX-rNMuo



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Re: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?

[J. Colaco < jc>]

(a) R. Fernandes (while agreeing that Child Abuse is a serious crime)
wrote: .. we should NOT ridicule our Religion or The head of our
Religion on a public forum. It will only provide fuel for the
Atheists, non-church-goers and those who are just plain negative.

(b) Roland Francis (after 'misquoting me in jest')  wrote: For the
record, JC meant he supported JP II's beatification but that other
candidates are EQUALLY deserving.


COMMENT:

1: I do not believe that anybody ridiculed either Catholicism or the
Pope - in this thread. Criticism is not the same as ridicule.
Criticism, however difficult to face, is always beneficial. Many
progressive actions have resulted from criticism.

2: "Atheists, non-church-goers and those who are just plain negative"
do not need fuel to be hyper-critical of the church or anything else.
They have in-built (possibly) GAS batteries which do not need external
recharging.

3: Roland Francis has mis-represented my position. I did not use the
word "EQUALLY" in my previous post. To have done that, I would have
had to evaluate the candidature of the other nominees. I have not done
so.

I'd say this (possibly again): Anytime one finds an obsessive and
unreasonably virulent antagonism against (say) the Church, a
particular priest or (as the case may be) Portugal or India, Try ask
this question - even to one's own self: WHY is this person this
obsessively virulent? Is there an antecedant issue (precursor) to this
obsession? Did the person miss out on any personal benefit?

practical examples: IF he was incarcerated by the Portuguese, was it
because he was a conscientious objector or was it because he was a
dacoit or a dangerous vandal ? If it is the case of an ex-priest, was
it because he felt that the vows were too onerous or was it because he
did not get his way to the top? If a specific priest is being
targeted, was it because the priest was plain wrong or was it because
the priest did not give a 'financial contract' to the friend?

If the person claims to be an atheist, that is what he/she is. What
makes his anti-religion tirade suspect is IF he selectively and
obsessively slams a particular religion, and yet attends 'church
services' (say) for 'social reasons'.

I believe that it is a personal right to be whatever one wants to
be.as long as one allows others their right to be what they want
to be and do (provided, of course, that NO ONE ELSE is physically or
otherwise endangered or harmed in the process).

jc

Re: [Goanet] Films and civil society: Standing up against the easy ...

[Eugene Correia]

Just this morning I was reading a review of Prof. Stanley Fish's new
book, How to Write a Sentence: And How to Read One, and that suddenly
reminded me of his book, There's No Such Thing As Free Speech, and
it's a Good Thing, Too. The title of the book, if I remember
correctly, is taken from an essay from this collection.
I have always admired Prof. Fish's writings  and some other academics
and journalists who have written at length on the dimension of free
speech and how it relates to modern society. In this age of political
correctness, it is important how we write without offending the
sensibilities of others.
Political correctness does not matter in satirical writings or comedy
acts. Stand-up comics, including the famous Indo-Canadian Russell
Peters, often poke fun at ethnic people. Some liberties or "license"
can be taken in certain writings, including screenplays. The outcry
over N. Shivdas's poem, Cheddi, was unnecessary. Movies on Christ,
including the Temptation of Christ, brought lot of criticism.
Sikh movie makers have never depicted Guru Nanak on the screen. I
talked once to a Sikh filmmaker who had made a documentary on the Sikh
religion and he said that he dared not to have an actor play the role
of Guru Nanak for fear that both he and the actor would be killed. I
am not sure if any film shows an actor play the role of Prophet
Mohammed. Fear of blasphemy as well as fear for life is what keeps
filmmakers from not depicting Guru Nanak on the small or big screens.
There were muted protests even against the play, Jesus Christ
Superstar. The late Prof. George Mark Moraes, the doyen of Goan
historians as well as a respected historian of Christianity, wrote a
scathing piece on the play in one of the Indian newspapers when it was
performed in Mumbai. I didn't agree with all his points but he did
express his displeasure of creating a surperstar out of Jesus who, as
we read in the Bible, led a simple life. (Sorry, Selma for bring Jesus
into this debate because you care NOT to know Him ;-).
There are "hate laws" in many countries. One of the oft-quoted remarks
on free speech is that it does allow a person to shout "fire" in a
cinema hall. I remember Mario Miranda's cartoon on the "hijack"
phenomenon that hit the world after many cases of plane hijacking. His
cartoon showed a cop drag a man by his collar for greeting his friend
at the airport, "Hi Jack."
My request to those who are caught in this debate to read Fish's essay
if they haven't yet done so.

Eugene Correia

Eugene Correia

[Goanet] India on Watch List of United States Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF),

[Eugene Correia]

The report says:

"The activities of these groups, especially those with an extremist
agenda or history of using violence against minorities, often
negatively impact the status of religious freedom in the country. Many
of these organizations exist under the banner of the Sangh Parivar, a
'family' of over 30 organizations that includes the Vishwa Hindu
Parishad (VHP), Bajrang Dal, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), and
the BJP. Sangh Parivar entities aggressively press for governmental
policies to promote a Hindu nationalist agenda, and adhere in varying
degrees to an ideology of Hindutva, which holds non-Hindus as foreign
to India".
This is the third consecutive year that India has been featured in the
Watch List.

Eugene

[Goanet] Why is a Goan Pedro always a drunkard, asks filmmaker

[Gabe Menezes]

Why is a Goan Pedro always a drunkard, asks filmmaker1 December 2010
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Panaji, Dec 1 (IANS) A Goan filmmaker will now tap the doors of the
archbishop, asking him to examine the stereotypical portrayal of Catholics
in Bollywood cinema.

Rajendra Talak, whose film “O Maria” was screened at the 41st International
Film Festival of India (IFFI) Tuesday, said that a special screening would
be conducted for Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao, a religious leader of the
Roman Catholic community in Goa, complaining about the portrayal of Goans in
Hindi films as vain alcoholics.

“Hindi films keep labelling a character (Pedro) in the movie as boozer and
through that they are labelling all the Goans as drunkards. This is wrong. I
want the archbishop to see this,” Talak said Wednesday.

“I will be conducting a special screening for the archbishop, press,
politicians, bureaucrats, everyone. Perhaps this is the first time that a
Goan Catholic has been projected properly than as a drunkard like in most
Hindi films,” Talak said.

Talak’s film starring Shernaz Patel, Sulbha Arya and American actor Cory
Goldberg deals with the subject of a sense of decadence seeping in Goa,
afflicted by rampant, uncontrolled in-migration, drug abuse and rampant sale
of land.

“Why Pedro has to be a drunkard always? And why that Pedro has to be Goan
Pedro only? Aren’t there Pedros in other states too?” Talak asked.

Several Christian groups in the state have in the past dissented against the
manner in which Hindi films had stereotyped the image of a Goan Catholic
home, where women wear short skirts and men are beer, whisky or feni
swilling alcoholics a la “Bobby”.


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[Goanet] ‘Your Goa 101’ Presentation in Toronto -- CORRECTION

[Silviano Barbosa]

 

‘Your Goa 101’ Presentation in Toronto

 

 

The G.O.A. (Goan Overseas Association) Toronto’s
first ever “Your Goa 101” presentation was attended by over 80 Goans in Toronto 
on
Saturday, May 7, 2011.

 

It was ably organized by Marcelina Dias, the
Cultural Secretary of the G.O.A. Toronto.

 

 

Marcelina Dias started the seminar with an
introduction of the presentation and  the objective behind it.

 

The emcee and facilitator, Rachel Castelino
introduced the presenters.

 

 

Silviano Barbosa, author of the novel, “The Sixth
Night” started the session by giving a brief overview  of Goa’s history, 
geography, economy, people, culture,
tourism and food.

 

 

Mel D’Souza, author of the book, “Feasts, Feni and
Firecrackers” focused on the
assets of our rich heritage and defined the four characteristics of a Goan.

 

 

This was followed by a Konkani lesson. The English
phrases recited by Marcelina were translated by Serah Barbosa  in Konkani and 
then repeated by the audience.This interaction was quite positive and exciting
for the audience.

 

 

A  group song
depicting the raising of the toast “Uddon Guelem” was
sung  in Konkani. 

 

Marcelina Dias gave a brief background of the
origin of the Goan cuisine.

 



The “Know Goa” Participants Presentation was quite impressive with the young  
Goans 
Michelle Dias and Rebecca Castelino, who

described their own views about Goa, the land, the
people and the environment from their recent Goan trip paid for by the 
Government of Goa. They showed a series of pictures taken in Goa to make their 
point. Their
visits to the University of Goa, mining sites, Legislative Assembly, the
beaches, National Parks, Goa Chitra, Bigfoot and other places were highlighted.

 

 

There were a lot of questions and suggestions from
the audience including from the representatives of
I.G.O. regarding Goa, what  NRIs could do to help Goa and where Goa was heading 
today.

 

 

Recent books by Goan authors from Goa and Canada
were on sale.

 

 

A popular DVD “Goa, Pearl of the Orient” by
Agostinho Da Cruz was played at the beginning of the seminar.

 

 

There were a couple of stalls selling Goan
sausages, pickles and other Goan foods. 

There were a lot of Goan crafts and artifacts on
display.There was a raffle in aid of Goa Chitra.

 

Renowned Canadian Goan architect Braz Menezes made
an announcement of  his
upcoming “THE MATATA TRILOGY”  based on
life in Kenya. 

 
On the whole this presentation went a long way in
terms of the audience participation and satisfaction  in knowing a lot about 
Goa they did not know of. 

  

The audience which included some young people
indicated that there was a need for continuing this type of
discourse so more youth would be aware of their roots and heritage. 

 



 

Silviano Barbosa
***
N.B.   Sorry I mistyped the name of young Rebecca Castelino who worked very 
hard along with Michelle Dias, and replaced it with her sister's name "Rachel 
Castelino" in "The Know Goa" participants..paragraph in my original post.I 
sincerely regret the error. Rachel Castelino, her sister, was the emcee however.
Thanks to all the overseas goanetters such as Rene Barreto and George Pinto for 
showing a lot of interest in the above programme and emailing me privately.By 
the way there was a sumptuous meal of pulau & sorpotel and chick peas and also 
some Goan desserts such as "mandoss" and "goddshem" included in the meal and 
prepared by Mrs. Goes for this occasion. 


 

Silviano Barbosa


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004PLO6YQ

 

http://www.oocities.org/goa...@rogers.com/index.htm





  

[Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Dovarnnem, dove corunc, dovim, dovo, dovornnem

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:

DOVARNNEM mound built to show the mileage of a road

DOVORNNEM resting place for carriers, the mound of mileage being used to
keep their loads on.

* * *

DOVE CORUNC to make white, to clean

DOVIM f. washed-clothes

DOVO, -i, -em, white

DOVO ZAUNC to be white, to be clean

[Source: Konkani-English Pocket Dictionary/Concanim-Inglez Dicionar. First
published in 1930. Republished in 1991 and 1999 by the Asian Educational
Services, Rs 195 in India.]

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org

[Goanet] European clubs sell dreams to Indian footballers

[armstrong augusto vaz]

European clubs sell dreams to Indian footballers
By Abhishek Roy (15:12)
New Delhi, May 8 (IANS) Top European clubs are selling the Indians a
football dream, promising them foreign trips and even playing for
their teams. These clubs are going about announcing the opening up of
talent hunt shops in India like fast food chains.

Some see these big-ticket floor shops as pure business for the
European clubs while others visualise a sea change in Indian football
that is down in the doldrums right now.

The exercise has been going on for close to three years with top
European clubs, starting with German giants Bayern Munich. It was soon
followed by Manchester United, Arsenal, Celtic and West Ham which went
scouting for talent, and more so, a market, using FIFA chief Sepp
Blatter's quotable quote "India is a sleeping giant".

Be it Arsenal Tata Tea Jaago Re Soccer Stars, Manchester United
Premier Cup or Mahindra Youth Football Challenge in association with
Celtic FC, the clubs are on an aggressive marketing drive in
collaboration with top Indian corporates.

For long, cricket, the country's number one obsession, was the
priority for corporates, but now they have realised the popularity of
football. India's FIFA World Cup viewership has shown a steady upward
curve over the years.

No wonder, the European big guns are on a recce, knowing fully well
that India can be a sellers' market.

Former Iranian star Jamshed Nasiri, a naturalised Indian having played
for Kolkata clubs in the 1980s, is the project administrator of the
Tata Tea Arsenal Soccer and calls the tie-up with European clubs a
partnership for soccer development in the country.

"I see European clubs as partners in development. Till a few years
ago, there was no interest in Indian football, but now European clubs
have suddenly realised that there is talent here," Nasiri told IANS.

"Tomorrow they may even set up an academy here. India need
infrastructure and if any overseas club sets up an academy here,
nothing better than that," said Nasiri, who was a rage in the early
80s with East Bengal and Mohammedan Sporting.

But in India, land acquisition is controversial.

Manchester United and Indian telecom giant Bharti had joined hands
with the All India Football Federation (AIFF) in 2008 in preparing a
blueprint for a Rs.100-crore academy in Goa, but the project had to be
shelved after the allocated land got into controversy. German club
Bayern Munich has also shown interest in setting up an academy in West
Bengal with the government promising land. But nothing has happened.

Football analyst Shaji Prabhakaran, a former national team director,
feels that instead of coming up with isolated projects, foreign clubs
should work alongside AIFF.

"Every year these clubs come and select a group of boys and take them
on a 10-15 days training stint to their state-of-the-art academies in
Europe. The clubs get the hype, but what will a kid learn in 10 days?
You have to keep a bunch a youngsters together and groom them for
long," said Prabhakaran, who was the director of Vision India, Asian
Football Confederation (AFC) development project.

AIFF secretary general Kushal Das said the talent hunt programmes are
nothing but marketing gimmicks by the overseas clubs.

"India is a big market for such clubs and I guess through these
programmes they are trying to get a foothold in the lucrative Indian
market," Das told IANS.

Former India coach Englishman Bob Houghton, too, was critical of such
programmes, saying they are an eyewash since no English club can sign
an overseas player under the age of 16.

"If you think that a 12-year-old or a 13-year-old will go and play and
get spotted by Manchester United, you are in a fool's paradise. A
player should have played for India at 14 and then only can he apply
for a work permit.

"But getting the work permit is not the issue. They can easily go to
places like Leicester and Birmingham, where there is a huge
concentration of Indians. But the Professional Football Association
will oppose their recruitment on the ground that there are better
players in England than the chosen Indians," he said.

The Englishman was also critical of a corporate spending Rs.100-150
million for an exhibition match between Bayern Munich and Mohun Bagan
in 2008.

Overseas clubs are also trying to tap the Indian diaspora to find
another Michael Chopra or Vikash Dhorasoo.

Chelsea's Search for an Asian Star is one such programme in England
and they have roped in Bollywood star Abhishek Bachchan as their brand
ambassador.

(Abhishek Roy can be contacted at abhishek@ians.in)

Re: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?

[Roland Francis]

In a hypothetical situation in which my critics found themselves closely
related to one of the thousands of boys abused and molested by a deviant
priest, here is what they would have said, based on their posts:

R Fernandes of Gulf International Promotions: "All I am saying is that we
should not ridicule our religion (for beatifying someone who protected the
abuser). 
My comment: For the record I did not abuse any religion - I just bemoaned
the action of beatifying JP II on account of his cover-up.

Elvino Rodrigues: "People who are criticizing the protectors of the abuse
are all former Catholics who have converted to another sect. Let us ignore
them.

Joseph Fernandes: Saul of Tarsus (later St Paul) was also a great sinner.
Who knows whether he may have also committed such a heinous crime against
young men. But remember he was canonized. So why not John Paul II.

Lino Dourado: Let us not look at the negative side of the situation. The
priest in question is a great educator and is responsible for my young
relative getting a first class in the SSC. So what if he abused him?

And the cake goes to our Goanet Socrates Dr JC who in his paragraph (f) made
the following famous comment: "There are many others in need of attention".
Words taken probably from the very mouth of the Cardinal in the Times
article who is reported to have abused 2000 boys and who must have said
those words after abusing the first 1000 boys, finding he had 1000 more to
"pay attention to"

OK JC before you fly off the handle I have in jest misquoted you. But only
because it is appropriate. 
For the record, JC meant he supported JP II's beatification but that other
candidates are equally deserving

Roland
Toronto.
 

R Fernandes wrote:
All I am saying is that we should NOT ridicule our Religion or The head of
our Religion on a public forum. It will only provide fuel for the Atheists,
non-church-goers and those who are just plain negative. Your paragraph G is
very much true and says it all.

JC wrote:
f: On the basis of what I know of John Paul II's life, I applaud his
Beatification. Having noted that, I'd say that there are many others
in need of attention.

[Goanet] Automatic Promotion in the Schools!

[icsouza]

From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org 
On Behalf Of Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
<<

Re: [Goanet] Pictures of dead Bin Laden won't be released....

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

On Mon, 09 May 2011 04:24:59 -0700, Jim Fernandes wrote :
<<< When someone messes around with a formidable opponent such as the
United States, they need to be well aware that they are dealing with the
military apparatus of a nation, that is second to none. By hunting down bin
Laden, the Americans proved a point - that they got the  b*lls to find their 
enemies and send
the dead men walking under the seas….>>>

 



COMMENT : It was suspected that Osama bin Laden was suffering from
tuberculosis and was sick for the past five years or so. In all probabilities
he died before the US even knew his whereabouts. The Pakistani government
played good politics to bolster US aid in arms etc. Expect the world to believe
that Pakistan could not detect intrusion of their airspace, that too for more
than 300 km or so. US too is playing its politics with Obama taking credit, but
go to the different websites, their own Americans are not believing this fake
drama. See a recent picture of Osama bin Laden released by the US. He is
frail, sickly and with a fully white beard:

http://oheraldo.in/news/Main%20Picture%20News/WHEN-OSAMA-FACED-OBAMA/48078.html

 

And see this picture of Osama shot in the forehead released by US on
the day they claimed he was killed by US troops and featured in most news
media. It is an old photograph with Osama having black hair and beard. It is so 
obvious
that it is a photoshop image:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/goaghantis/5703394262/in/photostream/

 




Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.

  

Re: [Goanet] Dum Maro Dum

[Eugene Correia]

The below-quoted para is from a previous post of mine
"In his Stray Thoughts, in the current issue of Goan Observer, Rajan
Narayan has conveniently shielded himself by saying that it is "public
perception that Goa is a hedonistic paradise where both liquor and
girls are available cheap." In the book, 60 Stray Thoughts, Rajan has
proclaimed Goa to be a "hedonistic paradise." But this time around, he
attributes the "hedonistic paradise" tag to "public perception." In
the earlier para,  he says, "The film Dum Maro Dum only reflects
the ground reality in Goa." Later on he blames the film for "the
denigration of Goa."
==
I came upon a startling statement by Rajan in the same book. In his
November 6, 1995 Stray Thoughts,  on page 158, he says"...Even the
Chief Minister and the Deputy Chief Minister have acknowledged that
Goa is looked upon  as another Pattaya, a land where the women are as
cheap as the wine."  Can someone let me know how what words these two
worthies actually utter. Was Rane the CM and Dr. Willy the Deputy CM
then?

Eugene

[Goanet] Leave it in the hands of Parents

[Joel Moraes]

Leave it in the hands of Parents!



Goemkar hanv Khas,Concanim Mhoji Bhas!
 With regard to the script,I am really not concerned about the script 
and at the same time,I have got nothing against Marathi.With regard to 
the future of my children,I will try my level best to get them educated 
in a English Medium School.I studied in a local,English medium Parish 
school but things are different now.
I know what is best for my 
children.I really don't need any advise from so called experts.If there 
were so called experts in Goa,our Goa would not have been ruined and 
raped miserably.
In plain,simple language,I wish to educate my 
children in a English  medium school.I am aware of my culture,tradition 
and what I am supposed to do.
Forget about the laws or acts,Everybody has the Right to chose the Medium of 
Education,It's common sense.
Shashikala is a expired medicine and needs to be disposed off  immediately

Joel Morais
P.O.Cuncolim,
Bencleamvaddo,
Salcette,Goa.
mob - 9970561727

Re: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?

[Gulf International Promotions]

I agree with you that :"Child Abuse is a serious crime. It
should be exposed right out in the middleso that the known few are
never again allowed again to cause the good priests to suffer the
mistrust and suspicion".

All I am saying is that we should NOT ridicule our Religion or The head of
our Religion on a public forum. It will only provide fuel for the Atheists,
non-church-goers and those who are just plain negative. Your paragraph G is
very much true and says it all.

R Fernandes

-Original Message-
From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org
[mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of J. Colaco < jc>
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:51 PM
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
Subject: Re: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?

[1] R Fernandes:Can we PLEASE NOT discuss (negatively) or argue or
ridicule our RELIGION on a public forum? ...have respect for the POPE
and more so for our Religion. Let's not wash the dirty linen in
public.

Could the moderators of Goanet please draw a line to control certain posts?


[2] Roland Francis wrote: Fr Ivo  This very man who is now
"beatified" and whom you so effusively praise, played the main role in
the cover-up of the church's massive child abuse scandals. The word
'abuse' is mild and misleading. It should really be called child rape
and destruction of lives but that is a digression.

ALLEGATIONS that the late pontiff blocked an inquiry into a paedophile
cardinal, promoted senior church figures despite accusations that they
had molested boys and covered up innumerable cases of abuse during his
26-year papacy have cast ...The most serious claims are related to
Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer, an Austrian friend of John Paul's who
ABUSED an estimated 2,000 boys over decades but never faced any
sanction from Rome.

Stanislaw Obirek, a Polish theologian and a FORMER Jesuit priest,
said: "I believe John Paul is the key person responsible for the
cover-up of abuse cases because most of it occurred during his papacy.
How can someone who is to blame for this be beatified?"

COMMENT:

Dears,

a: I disagree with R. Fernandes. Child Abuse is a serious crime. It
should be exposed right out in the middleso that the known few are
never again allowed again to cause the good priests to suffer the
mistrust and suspicion.

b: While I know that 'abusers' have infected many segments of life,
and that one finds them among the 'guardians' of many faiths, I am
happy that all the Catholic Church leaders (I personally know) have
taken a firm 'zero tolerance' on such matters. I seriously doubt that
this would have been possible if not for the exposure.

c: Having said that, we all (possibly) know that the Catholic Church
is a specific target for selective attack. It is perceived as being
rich and has disturbed the status quo by helping the poor and
educating them (esp in countries like India with its caste
discrimination).

d: I'd think a million times before accepting the word of a man/woman
who has been dumped by a woman/man, a priest who has left the Church,
or anyone who is upset that he/she cannot commit bigamy or cannot
remarry in the church after stranding his/her first spouse and
possibly the children.

e: Until one knows ALL the possibly available facts and analyses them
fairly and reasonably, all one will end up doing is a hatchet job
replete with hate, obsession, ignorance and libel.

f: On the basis of what I know of John Paul II's life, I applaud his
Beatification. Having noted that, I'd say that there are many others
in need of attention.

g: Atheists, non-church-goers and those who are just plain negative
...may not understand this.

jc

[Goanet] Films and civil society: Standing up against the easy response

[Carvalho]

Frederick Noronha wrote:
But do the Bollywoods of the world deserve applause when they go about
repeatedly and unrepentently painting The Other in crude stereotypes? If we
treat them with Free Speech arguments, then why not also respect the "right"
people have to indulge in blatant communal speech, racist talk or
gender-based bigotry?
-

I think this debate is one of the most important debates, we will have in a 
free society. What is free speech and what is an infringement on one's right to 
respect? There are always two valid points of view. For me personally, when in 
doubt err on the side of free speech.

But to take Frederick's argument further, where do we stop? If you can censor 
Bollywood, do we also censor the print media, the literary novelist, the 
internet blogger? There are tens of books that refer to Indian Christians as 
Chutney Marys, ayahs, drunk bakers. Do we ban them all? Top on that list would 
be Sir Richard Burton's classic, Goa and the Blue Mountains, followed closely 
by  V S Naipaul. 

Secondly, does artistic interpretation create stereotypes or reflect it? Where 
do stereotypes arise from? Surely not from the pages of a writer. They arise in 
the whirlpool of human interaction. So do we ban society from creating 
stereotypes? I agree that stereotypes dehumanise people, but censorship and 
legislation is not always the correct way to counter them, but rather through 
re-education and assimilation.

Thirdly, the writer has always used common stereotype to enhance 
characterization. Do you want to take that privilege away from the writer? To 
give an example of free speech, the word "nig*er" is banned on US screens but 
it is not banned when used by a character in a movie. The more important 
question is why must the writer not have the freedom to form characters exactly 
as he sees them? Where do we stop? What if the Bhatkars of Goa protest tomorrow 
that they are fed-up of tiatrists characterizing them as arrogant and 
mercenary? What if the "bhaile" of Goa stand in a queue outside tiatr halls 
demanding a ban on the tiatr, Aum Goenkar, tum konn?

Fourthly, each society will rightfully decide the extent of free speech it is 
comfortable with. In the US, the word "fu&&" is banned on TV, in the UK (though 
generally bleeped) is not banned. In my experience, free speech has done far 
less harm in this world than repressed speech. The most handicapped societies 
are those that emerge from a tradition of repression. 

When we chip away at free speech, we undermine the very fundamentals of 
democracy. And I am surprised Frederick of all people should not get this.

Best,
Selma

Re: [Goanet] Pictures of dead Bin Laden won't be released....‏

[Domnic Fernandes]

Common folks did not hire "professional wailers;" only bhattkar or landlords 
did. 

Moi-mogan,

Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna, Goa
Mob: 420979201

If there was nobody around to perform power packed wailing, folks would hire 
"professional wailers",
who would belt out a performance for a little "copa-chem" and food.
 
Jim Fernandes.
New York.


  

[Goanet] Ami Cuncol'kar!

[Joel Moraes]

Ami Cuncol'kar!



Rogtan boroillam nanv amchem goemchea Itihasachea bookar,

Rogot dillem ani Kaddlem Sotha mollar.

Amkam bivon Kamplo Purtuguez Serkar,

Ami cuncol'kar ! Ami cuncol'kar !



Zolmant ami henvchea adim,Chint'lo amcho tannim Fud'dar,

Veta thoi Panchvo rong,nizache ami Xetkar.

Xetam-bat'tam borum kad'lim,atam pavlleat amchea dongrar,

Disa uzvaddak soimacher,sod'lo faar,

Ami Cuncol'kar! Ami Cuncol'kar!



Ganvchem amchea,Chintum tumchea,Otmeak Nam thaar,

Ganeare Karkanne had'dun marl'le amchea Vorddear.

Povitr ganvchem,povitr Udok,dusmananim kellem pid'dear,

Zage tumche rite zalle,konn nam tumchea zagear.

Ami Cuncol'kar! Ami Cuncol'kar!



Joel Morais

Cuncolim,Goa.

Re: [Goanet] Pictures of dead Bin Laden won't be released....

[Jim Fernandes]

When someone messes around with a formidable opponent such as the United 
States, they need to be well aware that they are dealing with the military 
apparatus of a nation, that is second to none.

By hunting down bin Laden, the Americans proved a point - that they got the 
b*lls to find their enemies and send the dead men walking under the seas.

In an interview with '60 minutes' last night, President Obama made it clear, 
that anybody who has sympathies with bin Laden, need to get their head examined.

If one wants to know why I agree with the US president, please check my post 
published on GoaNet shortly after 9/11.

Jim Fernandes.
New York.

--- On Sun, 5/8/11, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

> From: Mervyn Lobo 
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Pictures of dead Bin Laden won't be released
> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
> Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 11:07 PM
> Jim Fernandes  wrote:
> > If there was nobody around to perform power packed
> wailing, folks would 
> > hire "professional wailers", who would belt out a
> performance for a little 
> > "copa-chem" and food.
> -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Fernandes,
> 
...
...
> Osama bin Laden’s killing was cheered by flag-waving
> crowds near the White 
> House and Ground Zero, and in sports arenas with shouts of
> “U-S-A, U-S-A.” 
> Star sports columnist Cathal Kelly observed: “By American
> lights, it was an 
> emotional, patriotic spectacle. To this outsider, it had an
> unseemly aspect. 
> A celebration of death smacks of a barbecue held outside
> the gates to the 
> gas chamber.”"
> 
> 
...
...
> 
> 
> 
> Mervyn1650Lobo
> 
> 

[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] 4th Sunday of Easter

[Jude Botelho]

 
8-May-2011

Dear Friend,

Are we enjoying life? Living it up? We may claim that we are having a good 
time! But often we yearn for more; we don't seem to be satisfied by the way we 
are living life. We keep trying one thing after another. We try to reach the 
top, and have wealth and power but still feel empty inside. Have we tried God? 
Jesus guarantees us the fullness of life through Him. Have a fulfilling weekend 
with Jesus!  Fr. Jude

Sunday Reflections Fourth Sunday of Easter 'Jesus the gateway to fullness of 
life!' 15-May-2011
Acts 2: 14, 36-41;        1 Peter 2: 20-25;        John 10: 1-10;

In the first reading from the Acts Peter addresses the crowds after the first 
followers had experienced the coming of the Spirit. He boldly says, "Let the 
entire house of Israel know with certainty that God has made him both Lord and 
Messiah, this Jesus whom you crucified." His listeners are moved and ask what 
they need to do to be saved. Peter asks them to repent and believe in Jesus the 
only way to fullness of life. Peter's message is essentially the same as 
today's Gospel and responsorial psalm: The stone which the builders, the 
Sanhedrin and the other leaders - had rejected, had become the corner stone of 
the whole edifice of salvation.

Showing the Way
In San Salvador on March 24, 1980, an assassin killed Archbishop Oscar Romero 
with a single shot to the heart while he was saying Mass. Only a few minutes 
before, Archbishop Romero had finished a hope-filled homily in which he urged 
the people to serve one another. Since Archbishop Romero was demanding human 
rights for his people under oppression, he knew that his life was in danger. 
Still he persisted in speaking out against tyranny and for freedom. He once 
told newspapermen that even if his enemies killed him, he would rise again 
among his people. Today, good shepherds who lay down their lives are husbands 
and wives who can't do enough for each other to demonstrate their commitment to 
each other; parents who make countless sacrifices for the good of their 
children; teachers who spend untold hours instructing the weak students; 
doctors and nurses who work untiringly to show they care for their patients; 
employers who share profits with their workers;
 politicians who unselfishly promote the common good of their voters and 
parishioners who generously support their parish community.
Albert Cylwicki in 'His Word Resounds'

In the Gospel Jesus explains his role as the Risen One in a parable "I am the 
gate." The words 'I am' are a claim to divine life. They echo the name of God 
revealed to Moses when he received his call to lead the Hebrew people out of 
Egypt to the Promised Land. As Jesus echoes that name there is an invitation to 
all to believe that He is God. He claims that he is the gate. There is no gate 
as such into the sheepfold. The shepherd acts as the gate. The sheep pass into 
the fold through his hands. He examines them, and tends to their bruises. When 
all are in he lies down across the entrance. No one can come in nor go out 
except over his body. He is their security. "Whoever enters by me will be 
saved, and will come in and go out and find pasture." He concludes, "I came 
that they may have life, and have it more abundantly." The risen Lord is 
calling us to the fullness of life. He is the only gate, the entrance to divine 
life. In the context of being the
 life-giver of his people he calls himself the Good Shepherd, who loves his 
sheep, takes care of them provides for their needs and leads them to rich 
pastures. Jesus is the only way to life. All other ways prove deceptive and 
short-lived. They may bring temporary pleasure but certainly no lasting 
happiness. Are we existing or living? Our Shepherd wants us to enjoy life, -a 
full life that is only possible in and through Him.

The Sheepgate
Like many devoted shepherds, Jesus is both the shepherd and the gate. I once 
heard a description of Middle Eastern sheepherding practices that ties these 
two images together. The sheepfold, especially one unattached to a larger 
settlement or dwelling, is a circular wall of stones, topped by barriers of 
briar. There is a small opening for the sheep to pass through. Once they are 
all in, instead of closing a hinged gate, the shepherd simply lies across the 
opening, so that nothing or no one can get through without going over his body 
first, without confronting or even killing him. This particular kind of 
shepherd literally makes himself into a barrier gate, a role that requires not 
only care but courage. If the marauders or predators are to get to the sheep, 
they will only do so over the dead body of the shepherd. When Jesus reveals 
that he is the gate of the sheepfold, he is not just suggesting that he is the 
unique way into safety or the only way out to
 pasture. He is saying that he will prevent our destruction by laying down his 
life. He has come to us that we may have life and have it abundantly.
John Kava

[Goanet] Fw: Creatures of the Earth

[floriano]

Creatures
- Original Message - 
From: Nazar

To: Florian Lobo
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:48 PM
Subject: Creatures


Hi Florian,  Thanks for your unstinting and spontaneous response. Could you 
please post this message for maximum coverage on the net? Nazar.


N O T I C E

"Creatures of the Earth" is a hard-hitting play sponsored by the Department 
of Science and Technology.


Its message is presented in theatrical dance-form by Hartman D'Souza and his 
troupe to high-light social issues that arise from indiscriminate mining 
activities in Goa.


The play was recently presented in Kala Academy and has been taken around 
the State of Goa to alert all citizens about the wide-spread impending 
fall-out to our way of life, including the real choices we have to face in 
the village of Moira: namely "Life with Water or Life With-Out Water".


This programme is now brought to you by concerned citizens in collaboration 
with


A.A. de Moira Club.

Date: Friday 13th May 2011

Time: 5.30 p.m.

Venue: A. A. de Moira Club.









(Nazar da Silva)

Re: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?

[Albert Desouza]

Dear GoanettersMaking saints can be termed as saint bazaar or saint sale at a 
discount rate.

> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 13:50:50 -0400
> From: cola...@gmail.com
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?
> 
> [1] R Fernandes:Can we PLEASE NOT discuss (negatively) or argue or
> ridicule our RELIGION on a public forum? ...have respect for the POPE
> and more so for our Religion. Let's not wash the dirty linen in
> public.
> 
> Could the moderators of Goanet please draw a line to control certain posts?
> 
> 
> [2] Roland Francis wrote: Fr Ivo  This very man who is now
> "beatified" and whom you so effusively praise, played the main role in
> the cover-up of the church's massive child abuse scandals. The word
> 'abuse' is mild and misleading. It should really be called child rape
> and destruction of lives but that is a digression.
> 
> ALLEGATIONS that the late pontiff blocked an inquiry into a paedophile
> cardinal, promoted senior church figures despite accusations that they
> had molested boys and covered up innumerable cases of abuse during his
> 26-year papacy have cast ...The most serious claims are related to
> Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer, an Austrian friend of John Paul’s who
> ABUSED an estimated 2,000 boys over decades but never faced any
> sanction from Rome.
> 
> Stanislaw Obirek, a Polish theologian and a FORMER Jesuit priest,
> said: “I believe John Paul is the key person responsible for the
> cover-up of abuse cases because most of it occurred during his papacy.
> How can someone who is to blame for this be beatified?”
> 
> COMMENT:
> 
> Dears,
> 
> a: I disagree with R. Fernandes. Child Abuse is a serious crime. It
> should be exposed right out in the middleso that the known few are
> never again allowed again to cause the good priests to suffer the
> mistrust and suspicion.
> 
> b: While I know that 'abusers' have infected many segments of life,
> and that one finds them among the 'guardians' of many faiths, I am
> happy that all the Catholic Church leaders (I personally know) have
> taken a firm 'zero tolerance' on such matters. I seriously doubt that
> this would have been possible if not for the exposure.
> 
> c: Having said that, we all (possibly) know that the Catholic Church
> is a specific target for selective attack. It is perceived as being
> rich and has disturbed the status quo by helping the poor and
> educating them (esp in countries like India with its caste
> discrimination).
> 
> d: I'd think a million times before accepting the word of a man/woman
> who has been dumped by a woman/man, a priest who has left the Church,
> or anyone who is upset that he/she cannot commit bigamy or cannot
> remarry in the church after stranding his/her first spouse and
> possibly the children.
> 
> e: Until one knows ALL the possibly available facts and analyses them
> fairly and reasonably, all one will end up doing is a hatchet job
> replete with hate, obsession, ignorance and libel.
> 
> f: On the basis of what I know of John Paul II's life, I applaud his
> Beatification. Having noted that, I'd say that there are many others
> in need of attention.
> 
> g: Atheists, non-church-goers and those who are just plain negative
> ...may not understand this.
> 
> jc
  

[Goanet] Song for the day.

[Gabe Menezes]

 Bobby 
Vee
-
Go Away Little Girl (1963)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVcEOONDnSk&feature=grec_index
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Invitation for Goan Convention July 6-8, 2012 in Detroit

[George Pinto]

FYI...


Dear Friends,

The 11th biennial Goan Convention is scheduled to be held in Metropolitan 
Detroit from July 6-8, 2012. The convention is planned to be like a family 
vacation, with fun filled activities for the whole family.

We are leveraging the cultural and professional diversity of this great 
American city to create an enjoyable experience. The Motown is the home to the 
auto giants: General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler. Less than an hour away in Ann 
Arbor is the University of Michigan, one of the finest universities in the 
country. Greektown is the entertainment hub with three casino hotels. The 
region fields professional teams in baseball, football, basketball, and ice 
hockey.

We are hoping that Goenkars from cities within driving distances such as 
Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, and Toronto as well 
as from the coasts and the south will attend the convention in large numbers.

Please visit the convention website http://www.goanconvention2012.com/

Feel free to contact us at goan2...@gmail.com.

Sincerely,
Mahendra Kenkre

[Goanet] Daily Grook #946

[Francis Rodrigues]

DAILY GROOK #946
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===
by Francis Rodrigues





he can succeed first try
in a comedy stand-up act,
yes, that's my pizza guy
whose delivery's perfect!




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sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits
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[Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?

[Elvino Rodrigues]

 Earlier, I have noticed in this forum that some former Catholics converted
into another sect are very hotly arguing against Rome and Catholicism, it
will be prudent if we ignore such critics, especially from a converted one
because there will be no limits nor boundaries for such debates, it is like
one criticizing  the religion and beliefs of others religion. None are
equals.

Mog asundhi.

Elvino.



Original message 5...
Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 11:32:19 +0400
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To: "'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!'"
   
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A Humble request.

This forum is being used by most folks to, debate, air grievances', argue,
ridicule, insult, abuse, praise, applaud etc, etc.

Can we PLEASE NOT discuss (negatively) or argue or ridicule our RELIGION on
a public forum? If at all one does want to pursue the matter I suggest you
do it by corresponding through your private emails. The POPE (past and
present) - who is the head of our religion - has made a decision and we as
Catholics should respect the decision even if we do not accept it (majority
of the world does accept it) . You may debate about it, discus it,etc, etc
but do it through your own private channels. Majority of the people that
read this forum daily, have respect for the POPE and more so for our
Religion. Let's not wash the dirty linen in public.

Could the moderators of Goanet please draw a line to control certain posts?
Most of us like to keep in touch with Goanet to know what is happening in
our dear Goa and anything relevant to the place. Private feuds and
discussions should be discussed on private mediums of correspondence. This
is only a humble request..

God Bless you all.
Thanks


R Fernandes

-Original Message-
From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:
goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Roland Francis
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:44 PM
To: 'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!'
Subject: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?

Fr Ivo,

This very man who is now "beatified" and whom you so effusively praise,
played the main role in the cover-up of the church's massive child abuse
scandals. The word 'abuse' is mild and misleading. It should really be
called child rape and destruction of lives but that is a digression.

Allegations that the late pontiff blocked an inquiry into a paedophile
cardinal, promoted senior church figures despite accusations that they had
molested boys and covered up innumerable cases of abuse during his 26-year
papacy have cast a cloud over his path to sainthood. The most serious claims
are related to Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer, an Austrian friend of John
Paul?s who abused an estimated 2,000 boys over decades but never faced any
sanction from Rome.

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger ? who became Pope Benedict ? had tried to
investigate the abuses as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the
Faith, according to Sch?nborn. But his efforts had been blocked by ?the
Vatican?, an apparent reference to John Paul.

Stanislaw Obirek, a Polish theologian and a former Jesuit priest, said: ?I
believe John Paul is the key person responsible for the cover-up of abuse
cases because most of it occurred during his papacy. How can someone who is
to blame for this be beatified??

The paragraphs above and further sordid details of some of JP II's doings
are from a London's Sunday Times article:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7086738.ece

Better to choose some other hero, Fr Ivo.

Roland.
Toronto.


BLESSED JOHN PAUL II
* IVO DA CONCEI??O SOUZA (Marg?o)
  ?Santo Subito! (Soon a Saint)? were the words to be read on
several plackards on the day of the death itself of Pope John Paul II. They
were the wish of the people who admired and loved him, in particular the
youth. Today he is Blessed. He is really ?The Great?. He is simply
universal. John Paul II has left a rich legacy to the Church of tomorrow, to
the society and to humanity. Pope Benedict XVI beatified him on May 1, 2011.
  When I heard about the novel of Morris West, Shoes of Fisherman,
as a student, I was eager to see a Pope of such a calibre, during my
lifetime, and succeeded. John Paul II has become a catalyst in the world
history. The Pope has brought out the Gospel message and its values to the
socio-political arena, to everyday life, to the man in the street.
Karol J?zef Wojtyla was a bright student, a good sportsman, an excellent
actor, a strong worker, an excellent Professor of Philosophy, a good
educationist, an honest diplomat, a true statesman, a holy priest, a good
shepherd, an excellent bishop, a saintly Pope. He was simply great!

Re: [Goanet] : culture and medium of instruction

[Albert Desouza]

Dear GoanettersAs a teacher I used to be appointed as an examiner for SSC 
science paper. The question paper used to have lots of mistakes. Some of the 
questions were eliptical and others had multiple answers. The name of the paper 
setter was kept a secret because he was coming from Marathi background. Some of 
our moderators could not speak proper English . Some of them were from 
Maharastra and had their SSC in Marathi Medium. There are many people against 
English as medium of Instructions. Most of them are politicians and others are 
dissappointed priests .Some of the politicians are against English not for love 
of Marathi but for fear of closure of Marathi schools .The priests who are 
fighting for konkani want cheap popularity. The schools run by the church may 
be closed down as their standard is not up to mark. There are many more things 
to write but I have no time.
against English Albert de souza
> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 17:40:51 +0530
> From: nellope...@gmail.com
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet] : culture and medium of instruction
> 
> CULTURE AND MEDIUM OF INSTRUCTION
> State reorganization is based on languages.How many states in India
> recognize two languages as official and mother tongue too? Does it
> mean that Goa has two cultures  kept alive separately without
> intermingling. Do we intend to tightly compartmentalize  two
> distinctive cultures Which culture takes precedent over the other.? Is
> it a fact that Goans will always be at logger heads regarding the
> convergence of  Goan cultural identity Is there a conflict of interest
> of cultures in Goa.?Those who vehemently supported merger of Goa into
> Mahrashtra were traitors to deny the special  and distinct identity of
> Goa or to subvert one aspect of culture as non existent  and yet they
> are shamelessly in fore front of  legislative assembly If language
> alone is the corner stone and preserver  of cultural identity, then
> 450 years of oppressive Portuguese Regime should have decimated that
> idea. Yet we know that the language and culture survived to be proud
> of under those circumstances The so called culture in isolation
> ,insulated from any influence is a myth. Static culture is a fad, but
> culture that progresses by assimilating the best from any culture is a
> reality. Today the world  is the global village and happenings any
> where immediately impact every citizen of the world All those
> countries using English are killing their respective cultural
> identity? Any way what is the cultural identity that some want to
> preserve by forcing Konkani medium of Instruction in Primary schools
> The Goans of any religious denomination have undergone a sea change in
> their way of life, traditions,dress, leisure, customs food, beliefs,
> celebration of our feasts and marriages functions of initiation into
> our beliefs etc The only identity is of birth ,but that cannot be
> openly put on display Many a non Goans is  using the Konkani language
> very fluently ,as the means of adjustment and survival The protagonist
> of Marathi do no favour to the neighboring state .Marathi is believed
> to be used for Religious purposes as Konkani in Roman script  serves
> the needs of the other community The youth of to day deplore the
> tradition and customs as totally abhorrent that stifle freedom and
> individual choices when chained to old values. In fact when old value
> system is replaced by new values, the latter become the tradition and
> custom These changes are happening all the time and influencing
> thinking acting and behaving There is vested interest in opposing
> English medium, when unaided schools are freely permitted to
> proliferate Do they destroy our identity and why are they allowed to
> function without any objections , In fact they are more in number than
> Konkani medium schools If Konkani is preserver of culture there no
> specific measures to promote it ,other then saying that medium must be
> in Regional language only, One fails to understand the rational of
> allowing urdu, kanada medium schools patronized by Govt .grants ,
> without any reciprocal arrangement to benefit Goans spread in those
> states Marathi in Goa cannot survive by forcing and continuation of
> Konkani, it must flourish on its own merit and interest by the users
> But the fear is real that English medium schools might sound death
> knell for these schools Few individuals cannot advocate or thrust
> their fanatic views on the majority in a democracy Individual have the
> right to freedom of choice and is determined by the parents, who are
> directly concerned with the welfare of their wards English today is
> tool of communication .higher studies, courts and Govt administration
> and it alone unites all the states, which are otherwise divided on the
> imposition of other state languages The rich are free to decide, but
> the poor cannot exercise the same choice because of economic condition
> alone. Thus there is division of 

[Goanet] Education policy and Child psychology

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

This is a retrograde step in education policy that destroys the very
base of education, and will destroy the ability of children to learn. A child’s
very ability to recognise it’s capabilities in learning will be taken away as
there is no motivation to study and learn. Similarly the child’s competitive
ability to do better (healthy competition) than the others is lacking. A child
will fail to learn to counteract and to accept small failures as a part of life
and recognise them as a motivation to do better the next time. Parents will be
more stressed as children will be throughout watching the idiot box or be  out 
playing. They will be like
government servants getting salaries immaterial of whether they work or not.

More problems will await children and parents when the child reaches
standard VIII and at the age of about 12 years. There will be many among the
failures who will discontinue studies, as they cannot cope with failures. Many
may resort to suicides as they have watched on the idiot box. Some of the
schools may pass undeserving students as they may have less numbers in the IX
standard.
The government should realise not to play politics with education.
Children should do learn and should learn from young. And by young it means
from the cradle. A child becomes demanding when  parents respond to every 
demand of theirs. A condition
reflex learnt by them with cries from their cradle. If parents knew to
recognise and not respond to false cries, the child would not throw tantrums
later in life. This just goes to confirm that children start learning very
early, and the earlier they learn, pleasant or unpleasant incidents, the better
a child can cope up with it.
Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. 


  

[Goanet] The Last Prabhu

[eric pinto]

  
The Last Prabhu

A Hunt for Roots: DNA, Ancient Documents and Migration in Goa 
was released on the 30th of April to coincide with the month of birth of our 
first grandchild, Raul Sanjay, to emphasize the fact that my book is all about 
roots.
The idea of doing this project emerged gradually: discussions on ancestry at 
home as I was growing up, the influence of my wife, a great granddaughter of 
José Nicolau de Fonseca and herself very well-versed in history, and also the 
inspiration from books by eminent historians most notably those authored by 
Prof. Teotonio de Souza. The immediate trigger was an article in The National 
Geographic magazine regarding their Genographic project carried out jointly 
with 
IBM that set the ball rolling.
 About the book
They did not leave paradise and would have accepted food from a serpent or any 
other creature in their quest for survival. More than 60 thousand years ago, 
humans belonging to haplogroup C – the so-called coastal people – migrated from 
Africa inhabiting the coastlinethrough the southern Arabian Peninsula, India, 
Sri Lanka and Southeast Asia up to Australia. A second migration followed: 
Africa that had entered the ice age bringing with it a drought and making food 
scarce for these hunter-gatherersbut theSahara had temporarily become greener 
attracting the animals that were indispensable for their survival. These nomads 
characterized by the genetic marker 168moved northwards literally 
followingtheir 
food. Their intellectual ability had evolved, they had invented tools that 
could 
aid them in their quest for survival and developed communication skills that 
gave them a determining advantage over all other species. Based on the results 
of DNA tests, The Last Prabhu describes the route that the descendants of these 
emigrants from Africa followed, leading them to populate the world including 
Goa. It also combines the results of DNA tests with literature data and an 
analysis of old documents such as Ghantkar's  "A History of Goa in Goykannadi 
Script" pertaining to the village of Aldona, where I was born and grew up, 
leading to some interesting conclusions.
We are all migrants to some extent and descendants of the first migrants out of 
Africa. The story of my ancestors is that of emigrants who on many occasions 
abandoned whatever was home at the time for greener pastures until they found a 
peaceful haven in Goa. Every time, it was their quest for survival that 
triggered their migration and specific value adding innovative skills enabled 
them to set their roots in new surroundings.
Another conclusion is that there is absolutely no genetic basis to the 
existence 
of the caste system since Brahmins all over India not only do not belong to the 
same haplogroup but additionally share haplogroups with other varnas and even 
with tribal populations. 

My resources being too limited for such a vast topic, my focus on Goa was based 
on the haplogroups of about half a dozen individuals, sufficient however to 
provide scientific proof that all the members of a specific vangod (family clan 
of the founders of the village) of Aldona's Comunidade Fraternal are 
descendants 
of a common ancestor. This conclusion is applicable to all the villages of Goa, 
since their foundation has followed an identical pattern. DNA tests have 
enabled 
me to identify and personally meet a member of the 4th vangod of Aldona's 
Comunidade Fraternal, to which I belong, whose ancestors emigrated to Karnataka 
centuries ago and is now currently settled in the USA, a long lost cousin with 
whom I had the pleasure and opportunity to have dinner and continue to be in 
contact.The book reports on an analysis of the meetings of Aldona's Gaunkars as 
related in Ghantkar's Tombo de Aldona and determines the pre-conversion names 
of 
all the 12 vangods of the Comunidade Fraternal. My pre-conversion Hindu name 
was 
Prabhu from where the book draws its title. 

The book also explains how to discover through DNA tests a person's ancestral 
migration route starting some 60 thousand years ago, how deep ancestry can be 
helpful in identifying common ancestors going back several generations, it 
discusses the peopling of Goa as well as historical aspects related to the 
village of Aldona that could serve as an example of what possibly occurred in 
many other Goan village.
It would be very helpful if Goa University would initiate a large-scale project 
to test the Y DNA as well as mDNA of Goa's various communities and Comunidade 
vangods. It would provide insights on the peopling of Goa and perhaps other 
highly interesting conclusions of historical interest.

It is most unfortunate that old documents in Goa's archives and libraries are 
treated with such appalling neglect and disrespect and access to them is 
hindered by massive bureaucracy. It is our last opportunity to save information 
on the past history of Goa and its inhabitants, our last opportunity to save 
information on our ro

Re: [Goanet] Diabetes

[Gilbert Lawrence]

Hi Ivo,
 
You again display your acumen, carefully selecting very nuanced terminology 
like "adjunct therapy"; which many non-clinicians may not understand or 
appreciate. 
 
Of course their ignorance is not your problem!
 
Using Styrofoam as a container can be a health problem (see link); in addition 
to waste-disposal of the container.
 
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2008/04-08/foam-cups-polystyrene-cups-article.htm
 
The following is a link to your question about using the microwave and some of 
the commonly used containers to prepare / warm the food
 
http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0706a.shtml
 
Regards, GL
 
- Ivo wrote:
 
It agrees with what I said: 1. Cinnamon can be an adjunct therapy. 2. 
Therefore, anti-diabetic drugs should be prescribed by modern medicine 
physicians. 3. There is no cure, either with modern medicine or with 
alternative medicine (ayurvedic and homeopathic medicines may help).
 
What about microwave prepared food? Is it true that many people, mainly women, 
got cancer?

Re: [Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO to focus on People's preparedness & participation in Disaster Management in Goa.

[floriano]

Dear Rico,

The topic of disaster management is not simple and cannot be discussed over 
Balcao sittings with a cup tea or a glass of feni in hand.


This is a serious matter and the State-wide preparedness is necessary with 
pre-determined mock exercises ( not the Naka-Bandi type where guys in Delhi 
sneeze and our guys in Goa catch the cold) :-))


If you are interested to know  what goasuraj thinks of 'Disaster Management' 
at State level, please check goasuraj's ROADMAP FOR GOA,  Chapter II (8)

and you will know what we are talking about.

The State of Goa under the Congress, the BJP or the NCP can never have such 
preparedness as we have detailed therein. I don't know why these blokes do 
not refer the this 'document' and copy it's contents, instead of being the 
bulldozers for the mining industry in Goa. It would do a world of good for 
Goa and Goans.


BTW when I refer to Balcao above, I do not mean the Friday Balcao organized 
by Roland Martins.


Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org


- Original Message - 
From: "Frederick Noronha" 

To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO to focus on People's preparedness & 
participation in Disaster Management in Goa.




Floriano, Looks like the usual red herring --  doing it for money! And no
small amounts here, nothing less than one crore at that! Either you don't
have an idea of how broke the State is, or I'm misreading how desperate
Dig-bab is.

I would think it unfair to criticise someone on the basis of what issues
they choose to take up.

If you have any specific reason to see a quid pro quo, please state it.
Otherwise, vague kite-flying could be less than fair too, isn't it? FN

[Goanet] Karishma Vaz wins May Queen beauty pageant of Doha Goans Sports Club

[Doha Goans Sports Club]

http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=237316

[Goanet] Happy Mother's Week! - Joel Moraes

[Elvino Rodrigues]

Salam Tuka Joel Bab.
Kitlim girest tujim utram! Kitli khuxalkai bogchi nam eke Avoyche Kalzak him
utram aikon jednam tim yeit thor aplea putanche and dhuvanche toddantlean
tachem kalzant'lim!

Asat kaim avoyo, zannim apleam putanche moga khatir aplo koro mog dakoun
dolle dampun apli soi dilli sogli girestkai tanche modem vanttun khaunk
apleak kainch dovrinastana, tiche somplele ghorkaracho pasun ordo vantto
tanche navar zalo. Polle kitlo mog to eke Avoyk aplea zolmololea Putancho!
Ani uprant kitem nam bogot tech Avoyk zor tor tannim tika kikont kelear,
somzun apleak aplem mellpachem asa tem meulem atam mar konkear.  Ugdas dhor,
he Put kazari zalear! ani amche Even  Adavank kelem toxench tanche
ghorkanini aplea ghorkarank kelem zalear - tallnent ghalunk, jerul he put
aple ghorkanichi khuxi kortole ani aple Avoyk kushin dovortole, tika kikont
kortole tka eksuri sanddoitele, toxem zalear, hich Avoy ji apleak khainch
dovrinastana soglench aplea putanche tabeant kelem zalear, ani put uprant
oxe bodol'le zalear kitem zatolo ticho bess!!! Ek bhikarn koxi? Put asonuim
nam tosli ek eksuri Avoy!

Mhoje aunvdde, oxem goddon eina zaunk ani ghoddon eilear Devachi doya ani
khallji he Avoyk aundetam.

Khuxal-borit Avoyancho suman soglem Avoyank, hech mhojei avundde.

Elvino.


Original Message: 6 .
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 02:08:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Moraes 
To: Goanet , Goanet
   ,Goanet Reader
   , goanet@lists.goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Happy Mother's Week!
Message-ID: <661692.70131...@web130124.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Maim!

Zolmant hadteli amchi maim,
Ti mogan bhorleli baim.
Kaim sor zainam tichea moga thaim.
Amchem borem utor zai thika anik nhaka kaim.

Tum ragan bhorot,punn thika dukhoinaka,
Hath tuza vont'tir marum modd,punn ticher Uklinaka.
Kitem divchem aslear atam dhi,
mortoch thika ful'lam nhaka.

Happy Mother's week !

Joel Morais
Cuncolim,
Bencleamvaddo,
Salcette,Goa.
mob - 9970561726

[Goanet] Gitmo detainees told US how ISI allowed attacks on India

[Naguesh Bhatcar]

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/159881/gitmo-detainees-told-us-isi.html

 Gitmo detainees told US how ISI allowed attacks on IndiaWashington, May 8 (PTI)
The ISI facilitated militants to cross the border to carry out strikes on 
Indian targets chosen by the Pakistan Army, several detainees at the Guantanamo 
Bay facility told US interrogators, according to a fresh set of American 
diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks.
The interrogation reports quoted a detainee as saying that ISI "allowed" 
militants to travel to India where they conducted bombings, kidnappings and 
killing of Kashmiri people and the targets were picked up by the Pakistani Army.

The revelations add to Pakistan's embarrassment after Osama bin Laden was found 
living at a million-dollar mansion in the garrison city of Abbottabad.

The US was long aware of the presence of anti-India terror training camps in 
Pakistan with several inmates telling investigators how ISI allowed militants 
to carry attacks in India.

The disclosures are part of 779 interrogation reports from the facility of 
detainees from all over the world and show how a number of detainees were 
linked to anti-India Lashkar-e-Taiba and had received terror training in 
Pakistan.

The reports quote detainees from countries like Saudi Arabia, Algeria and 
Pakistan as telling interrogators about their recruitment and subsequent 
travelling to Pakistan for terror training before their actual deployment to 
launch attacks against India and also Afghanistan.

An Algerian detainee Abdul Azia admitted he was a member of LeT for which he 
noted that "their mission (was) to kill Indians in India", says a detailed 
report of his interrogation, released by the whistleblower website.

"Detainee is assessed to have recruited in Saudi Arabia and received training 
from the LT in Pakistan. The detainees is further assessed to have participated 
in combat in Kashmir, and then travelled to Afghanistan where he was injured," 
says a note about Azia.
Records of a Pakistani prisoner named Mohammad Anwer showed that he travelled 
to Muzaffarabad in Pakistan-occupied Kashmirwhere he attended an LeT 
training camp for 21 days in 1998 and later served in Afghanistan.

"Detainee has been identified through sensitive reporting as a Pakistani Inter 
Service Intelligence Dirctorate agent," the document says.

One of the reports quotes Chaman Gul, an Afghan militant as telling 
investigators about Mast Gul, a former Major of the Pakistani Army, who was "a 
notorious terrorist who fought in Kashmir and planned terror attacks against a 
number of targets in Kabul.
Gul is closely alligned to Hizb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), an al Qaeda linked 
group and ISI Directorate.

The detainee claimed that Mast Gul controlled all guerilla activity in Kashmir 
from his home base in Muzaffarabad.


  

Re: [Goanet] Pictures of dead Bin Laden won't be released....

[Mervyn Lobo]

Jim Fernandes  wrote:
> If there was nobody around to perform power packed wailing, folks would 
> hire "professional wailers", who would belt out a performance for a little 
> "copa-chem" and food.
-




Jim Fernandes,
"In the old wild west of America, executed criminals were hung up in public 
squares. And photos of gunned down criminals — some featuring the 
triumphant sheriff and his posse — were widely circulated.


When they ruled Afghanistan, the Taliban used to string up executed 
criminals and political enemies on trees in traffic squares. Or they gathered 
people in stadiums to cheer the stoning of women.


Osama bin Laden’s killing was cheered by flag-waving crowds near the White 
House and Ground Zero, and in sports arenas with shouts of “U-S-A, U-S-A.” 
Star sports columnist Cathal Kelly observed: “By American lights, it was an 
emotional, patriotic spectacle. To this outsider, it had an unseemly aspect. 
A celebration of death smacks of a barbecue held outside the gates to the 
gas chamber.”"


The above is a quote from Canada's most popular journalist. If you need to 
read the entire article, here is the link.
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/987416--siddiqui-obama-s-evolution-into-a-warrior




Mervyn1650Lobo














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[Goanet] PARTY TIME - No failures till Std. 8

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

On Sun, 08 May 2011 15:27:39 -0700, Frederick Noronha wrote :
<<>>

 

COMMENT : Don’t Politicians and their  builder partners in arms say that Goans 
are against “Development”
for every opposition of Mega projects? 
If one's main aim is to decorate their children with only degrees rather than a 
have wider knowledge of the world and knowledge that physics, general science, 
maths, biology, etc., teach that we see and use in daily life; then opposition 
can be labeled as "conspiracy".




Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.