Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

[Brendan McWilliams]

*Missing a smiley mischievous emoticon there, so please don't flame me to 
death. ;-/

From: Brendan McWilliams 
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 4:20:32 PM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

Not really a fan of Tennis but I always support Andy Murray, precisely because 
he's Scottish, and always wanted Henman to win.

Clearly lots of English have taken against Murray for his _possibly_ wanting 
Scottish independence.

However I want Federer to win every match as he's been the most stylish and 
graceful player I can remember.

BMW

PS I reserve my anyone-but-the-english primarily for the soccer and in 
particular the rugby.




From: Leedslist  on behalf of Rob Heath 

Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 4:11:16 PM
To: Graham Thirkill
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

I did indeed love good old "Come on" Tim. Winning is not everything in
sport, although it's amazing how many people watch or play sport yet don't
know that.

P.s. No.
On 5 Jun 2017 21:57, "Graham Thirkill" 
wrote:

> Maybe because he’s a winner and world number one…….each to their own
> Rob….Maybe, then, you drooled over, never-one-owt, Tim Henman….. he had
> charisma but little else IMHHO……..
>
> Cheers and Beers
> Thirkers
>
> PS….Did you visit me in Whitby at my business, about 15 years ago, with
> your son If so,
> I hope he still has the John Charles signed programme I have gave
> him…. Sorry if I’m wrong,
> but it was a long time ago, but a few people used to come to see me in
> Whitby…..
>
>
> Rob Heath Posted;_
>
> You're going to think I'm being deliberately contrary, but I have to say
> that I cannot warm to Murray.
>
> I used to despise him with a passionafter he single handedly won
> us the Davis Cup I tried hard to like him, but I just can't.
>
> For some reason, style is SO important in tennis. Murray is undoubtedly a
> impressively effective player who yes does play some great shots, and yes
> he's a fantastic competitor but he's got none of the style or charisma of,
> as a perfect example, these two fabulous players who are on court
> nowMonfils and Wawrinka.
> On 5 Jun 2017 20:52, "Graham Thirkill" 
> wrote:
>
>> Just watched World "Number One" Andy Murray cruise through to the last
>> eight in the French open, three sets to nil. I remember a few years ago I
>> seemed to be the only Andy Murray fan on this list. I mentioned his name
>> and got blasted by a few on here.
>> Not one other lister had a good word to say about him, I distinctly
>> remember that……although that didn’t really surprise me. Seeing as he has
>> won just about everything and being knighted as well, I suppose some of you
>> will dislike him even more……It is because he’s a winner or a Scot or that
>> he’s both…Just wondered???
>> Have a good Monday gents…..
>> Cheers and Beers
>> Thirkers\098/
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Re: [LU] totally non LU - scum of the earth

[Brendan Osborne]

Dave,


So sorry to hear that - the death of a child is such a life changing event, and 
to have to put up with the trauma of such mindless vandalism on top of that, is 
challenging to say the least.


Leeds family love to you all,



Ossie


From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: 26 July 2017 21:12
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] totally non LU - scum of the earth

This post is nothing at all to do with LUFC or football but I am so angry and 
upset I just need to vent a bit - so feel free to delete without reading
My 6 year old neice, Lexi,  died last year after a long and painful terminal 
illness. As you can imagine that is pretty upsetting and even more so for her 
mum (Emma) Dad  and siblings
Anyway I got home from a great night at cubs tonight to find my wife a bit upset
 Emma had been to Lexis grave and caught a lad and his mates (they got away) 
destroying the grave, they have smashed the ornaments, broken flowers and even 
worse broken a small pink money box into which  her 10 year old sister Ellie 
puts one pence each time she visits, and they nicked the money - all 88pence of 
it.
Somehow Emma restrained both herself and the kid concerned - how she did not 
batter him I am not sure, till police came
The kid is 11 and his mates the same age - police put him back of the van and 
tried to put the fear of god up him - the kid was hysterical, they said they 
would do what they could but given his age etc
Emma is heartbroken as you can imagine - the cross has been ripped from the 
grave and everything trashed - and wants to 'dig Lexi up and bring her home'
I know there is nothing anyone can say or do but I am so angry and upset words 
fail me and I just needed to vent a bit
It makes you despair for humanity - they are old enough to know and understand 
what they were doing for 'fun' and that it was so obviously the grave of a 
little girl
Myself and my wife are going to shops tomorrow and will buy what we can to 
replace the broken stuff but it will not be the same
Sorry to put this on any of you (if you have read this far)
Like I say scum of the earth
Dave

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Re: [LU] Another big call

[Brendan Osborne]

Working so far! 1-0 Saiz!


MOT


Ossie



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Sent: 21 October 2017 13:47
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Another big call

TC has made another big call (after dropping Felix last time) and has left out 
Pontus . Alioski has also been recalled and so has Viera in a 3 man midfield
Team- Lonergan, Ayling, Pennington, Cooper, Berardi, Phillips, O'Kane, Vieira, 
Saiz, Lasogga, Alioski.Wiedwald, Anita, Jansson, Roofe, Sacko, Hernandez, Grot.
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Brendan Osborne]

I've just noticed the "Flame Wars 'R Us" in the email trailers 😊



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Nigel Sykes 

Sent: 26 October 2017 15:11
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Ha!  You're right!  It wasn't even Rob's joke about Israel!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:53
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; 
{broken-address} Graham White; Mark
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 Matt was the instigator (harmlessly no doubt) Dr Mike responded to his email I 
believe:
|-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> |Matt Anderson
> |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> |To: Rob Heath 
> |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the
> |point..LU (ish)
> |
> |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel

On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 10:50:36 AM EDT, Mark 
 wrote:

 Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
the wrong this time.

Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
Chicago Fire

From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham White
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. In 
that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
White  wrote:

 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh  
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson 
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm
> still here of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations?
>> Will there be a transition period?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock > > wrote:
>>
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>>
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>>
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Brendan Osborne]

Mike,


I think the lists' confusion lies in the fact that you mentioned "searching 
through my past emails" on a number of occasions, whereas I certainly speak for 
myself when I say that I didn't see that evidenced in anything posted to the 
list.


I/We may have missed something or perhaps something was posted off list - 
which, if so, I feel should be just between you two and the list should be 
saved from the fallout.


Personally I'd prefer to have you both on the list as I'd miss the excitement!! 
😊



Ossie



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Michael Benjamin 

Sent: 26 October 2017 16:05
To: Graham White; Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I was infuriated by an act I described at least twice.
But you decide.
Good luck & MOT--
Michael
-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Graham White
Sent: 26 October 2017 16:41
To: Peter Castlehouse ; ejwalsh 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson 
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh  
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson 
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm
> still here of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations?
>> Will there be a transition period?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock > > wrote:
>>
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>>
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>>
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>
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Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Brendan Osborne]

You're definitely not alone in this. A try hard, looking for someone to bite, 
that's all. Sad really.



From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 

Sent: 01 November 2017 09:20
To: GRAHAM THIRKILL
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

I doubt I’m alone when wondering why this chump keeps posting this crap, but I 
content myself that he is of an age where he probably shits himself twice a 
week! That’s satisfying enough!

Sent from my iPad

> On 1 Nov 2017, at 07:57, GRAHAM THIRKILL  
> wrote:
>
> Nicholas Armit armitn at yahoo.com  quote I thought we did fine first half 
> and even though they had some pressure second they were nowhere near as good 
> as Sheffield Utd quote
>
> The stats say Leeds had only 40% to Derby's 60% of the play in the first 
> half, so you must have missed quite a bit of the game, unless it was those 
> rose tinted spectacles of yours..hahahahaha
> You experts have just three days to sort out the team selection, management 
> problens, player problems, tactics laundry, boot cleaning, sweeping the 
> stands, cutting the grass  and all the other problems you wannabee managers 
> have to discuss, hahahahaha
> Remember, it's only a game you have a rubbish team get used to it, you should 
> know better after all these years in the third and second division that you 
> are in now. What is it now, five games on the trot lost, it's only 15 points 
> plus another 3 on Saturday at Brentford maybe yiu are on a roll for a club 
> recordhahahahaha
> Anyhow leedslisters, I hope my message has cheered you all up. I can't 
> imagine how it feels for all of you.it must be terrible, FIVE OUT OF DEFEATS 
> IN THE SECOND DIVISION AFTER BEING ON TOP FOR 5 MINUTES
> Not so loud Cheers & Beers,Thirkers, (The Legend)
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Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Brendan Osborne]

I suggest that someone describing themselves as a legend needs far more 
professional help that those who've complained about you.


Or are you being ironic? If there was a scintilla of humour in your posts I 
might see the funny side of this, but you just come across as a bitter 
attention seeking old man.


How would you feel if you were actually having nasty thoughts about yourself 
and someone taunted you with this online? If you must "flame" someone, kindly 
use what's left of your brain to consider the real life implications of what 
you type.


Oh and don't bother having a go at me after this - I won't be reading your 
shite again.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of GRAHAM THIRKILL 

Sent: 02 November 2017 09:51
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

"Quote from a tragic lister;_ ianjamesmur...@hotmil.com"Actually makes me feel 
like unsubscribing. It is a particular Yorkshire trait to pretend to enjoy 
misery and try to exacerbate it in others (especially in sport), but it's shit. 
I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, but I just delete his nonsense. It's annoying 
that my phone buzzes with constant shit though. Between him, MDM and Heath' s 
lovely rapartee I'm thinking "Do I need this shit interrupting my life?". If 
you want to wind people up, join a message board.
Maybe I'm just stressed with work atm and tolerance levels are low, but it's 
always irritated me. I've been on the list since 2000."---Ian 
James, my heart goes out to you, this is a heartbreaking story of a Leeds 
lister with severe deep depression. Don't worry it's very common with Leeds 
listers. No one, not even a Leeds lister should have to encounter this terrible 
illness. Are you having nasty thoughts about yourself.? Actually, one of the 
people you are whinging, moaning and crying about is a wonderful gentleman and 
a Professional Psychiarist. Of course I am referring to my dear Leeds born, 
Friend and "Real Leeds Fan", Dr Michael Benjamim. He will help you if reach out 
to him and say sorry for bitching about him. If you will take my advice I think 
you should contact Dr Benjamin sooner rather than later. You sound pretty 
desperate to me, with, stress with work, tolerance levels, irritation, phone 
buzzes, etc etc. Are you sure you are not having bad thoughts about yourse
 lf? The phone buzzes must be dreadful and the worst of your terrible problems 
for you, it's such a shame. How old are you???Anyhow ianjames just to recap 
on my two suggestions, contact the wonderful Dr, Michael Benjamin, he has spent 
a lifetime treating people who are in your condition, they were not ALL Leeds 
lister fans, I hasten to add. I would say contact him immediately. I think you 
are having nasty thoughts about yourself, My second suggestion is quite simple. 
Turn the fucking phone off.Thirkers (The Legend)PS. Ianjames this was written, 
in an effort, to try to cheer you up a little bit. I hope my email has helped 
to lessen the stress, tolerance levels, irritation, shit, phone buzzes etc etc 
etc etc etc somewhat. My goodness me you poor little lost lamb I do feel so 
sorry for you, especially when you mention, you have been on the list since the 
year 2000. What a faithful wonderful lister you are, this could probably, be 
why you are feeling desperate, like you are.Hang on i
 n there!!!




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Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Brendan Osborne]

Have you ever re-read your mails? See quoted bits below.


Don't make this about your spat with Rob Heath - Thirkers had a scatter gun 
approach and was trying to abuse everyone who answered him. You, as a mental 
health professional should not be defending a keyboard warrior, especially when 
he is taunting others with his "nasty thoughts" routine. I was fucking 
disgusted at that and so should you be.


I don't mind admitting that I've had mental health issues and we constantly 
hear of young people who take their own lives because of cyber bullying.


You would serve this list better if you dropped this and accepted that Thirkers 
behaviour was at best, unacceptable, and at worst, downright irresponsible.





I  cannot pretend to know what was behind Graham's anger.

followed by..

He loathed the treatment I was getting and finally struck out.






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Re: [LU] game

[Brendan Osborne]

Just watched Wolves give the ball away about 8 times in a row - maybe a bit 
rattled!!!



From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker 
Sent: 22 November 2017 21:00
To: Richard Walker; Nicholas Armit; Robinson, Mick; Leeds List; 
{broken-address} Richard Walker; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Subject: Re: [LU] game

fucking great stuff now !

  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 

 To: Nicholas Armit ; "Robinson, Mick" 
; Leeds List ; {broken-address} 
Richard Walker ; {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:57
 Subject: Re: [LU] game

2-1 allioski the laibility lol

  From: Nicholas Armit 
 To: "Robinson, Mick" ; Leeds List 
; {broken-address} Richard Walker 
; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
; Richard Walker 

 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:45
 Subject: Re: [LU] game

 Well think he could have done better with the second. On second viewing the 
first was pretty top corner.
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 3:40:21 PM EST, Richard Walker 
 wrote:

 bit harsh on Lonergan me thinks however I agree about Beradi - not a left back 
!

  From: Nicholas Armit 
 To: "Robinson, Mick" ; Leeds List 
; Richard Walker ; 
{broken-address} Richard Walker ; 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:35
 Subject: Re: [LU] game

 Berardi having a mare and maybe lonergan at fault for both goals?
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 3:31:37 PM EST, {broken-address} Nicholas 
Armit  wrote:

  TBF they are good
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 3:29:09 PM EST, {broken-address} Richard 
Walker  wrote:

 thanks Mick superb
although not sure I want to watch

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 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:22
 Subject: RE: [LU] game

Good link on FB

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2-0 down now - they're a yard quicker

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 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 20:10
 Subject: [LU] game

watching on dodgy Periscope link
goal was poor - Vierra gave away , Cooper hacked man down on edge of box. Good 
freekick over wall.
this could be embarassing if we don't get a grip 
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Re: [LU] Luke Murphy

[Brendan Osborne]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8800644/Transfer-news-Sky-Sports-understands-Luke-Murphy-agrees-Leeds-move
Sky Sports understands that Crewe Alexandra midfielder Luke Murphy has agreed a 
move to Leeds United and will pen a three-year contract.It emerged earlier on 
Monday that the 23-year-old was at Elland Road to undergo a medical.With an 
agreement having been reached with Crewe, he is now clear to step up into the 
Championship.Murphy is a product of Crewe's famed academy system and made his 
senior debut for the Railwaymen while still in his teens.He has gone on to 
become a first team regular, making close to 200 appearances over the last five 
seasons.Murphy did not look out of place at League One level last season and 
will be looking to hit the ground running in the second tier with Leeds.It is 
understood that Crewe will collect a fee of £1million as part of the deal.



> From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 19:25:22 +0800
> To: andyclayto...@gmail.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Luke Murphy
> 
> I've gotten all excited Vern and posted this on facebook so you'd better not 
> be pulling my chain!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 01/07/2013, at 19:23, "Andy Clayton"  wrote:
> 
> > Confirmed?
> > 
> > Not seeing it anywhere!
> > 
> > cheers,
> > 
> > AndyC
> > 
> > On 1 July 2013 11:57, Errand Fivefold  wrote:
> > 
> >> Signed 3 year deal!
> >> Chuffin' 'ell!
> >> 
> >> Verner
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: [LU] change in policy

[Brendan Osborne]

Victor Moses anyone? :-)

> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:48:38 +0100
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] change in policy
> 
> Clearly last year Warnock was going for colours - Green, White and Brown
> 
> McDermott is more of a biblical man and is going for Gospel writers - we have 
> Matthew and Luke so he is on the look out for a Mark and a John
> 
> Noel Hunt also fits in with this bible theme - the first No-el and all that
> 
> 
> F*ck me the morphine is strong today
> 
> Dave
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Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil

[Brendan McWilliams]

DISCLAIMER: living in Spain, married to a spaniard, half spanish kids etc, thus 
been roused from lurking with this thread. :->

 

This recent line on Spain being boring and some being glad they lost (not just 
Dave Sutton below), criticism of their footballing style - if there was such a 
thing as footballing BLASPHEMY or luddite then this is it.  

 

Rather, it's more a case of simply turning on a team that have won too much 
lately i.e. there was no criticism of Spain's victories in '08 or '10 when they 
were the underdog and shedding their perennial loser bottler tag.  We all tire 
of the same team winning too much (apart from our beloved LUFC).

 

Recall that it was Zidane and France who put Spain out of the WC in 2006 BUT 
against a Spanish team which had HALF of the players who played on Sunday. 
Since then Spain changed their style a little i.e. they have had different 
styles and didn't do it, but this latter one has been SO successful.  If it's 
not broke...?Possesion football works for them but yes they should start 
looking at the Bayern Munich way with more power in central midfield - which is 
exactly what Brazil did with Paulinho and Dias - which Busquets tries to do but 
has faded a lot lately..

 

Let's not forget also that Spain were KNACKERED from both the long season and 
having played ET + penalties just two days before. I still can't understand why 
those who go to the Confed don't take more B players and rest the older ones.

 

But have they been boring? For me, absolutely not. Who remembers the tedium of 
France winning in '98 or '00 with Guivarche and Dugarry, with only ZZ to inject 
some quality? Or Greece in 2004, which was worse than anything Jack Charlton 
had the Rep playing in the 90s. Brazil in '94? Dire dire football.

 

Would I rather watch Spain "mix it up" like England and try any number of 
unsuccessful champagne passes like Gerrard up in the air to Carroll? Erm, pass 
on that one (see what i did there... :->).It's not fair to mention England 
here of course, but they are almost a footballing opposite. In recent years i 
can't watch England play without constantly counting the number of consecutive 
passes they make to each other - it rarely gets above 3 or 4. When England wins 
playing like that, is it exciting? For England fans yes, but you'll know it'll 
get found out and as a neutral, i think it's a sh1t way to play and no, it's 
rarely exciting.

 

Spain's possession football also suits the fact that a number of their players 
in the Spain first XI are actually not quite World Class but still they still 
have won: Torres (on the slide since 2008/9), Arbeloa (truly woeful the other 
night), Pique (good footballer, poor defender), Casillas (Mou was in large part 
right, although great at 1-on-1s), Navas has doesn't score goals and the final 
pass hasn't been great of late, then theres Valdés (a David James calamity 
every 5th match).  

 

Not to mention the fact that this is actually a VERY small team physically.  Is 
it boring to see little guys dink their way past clodders in midfield and 
keeping the ball off them?  It is FOOT ball afterall and anything that is not 
lamping a ball up to a beanpole donkey up front for a hopeful knockdown cannot 
be bad. 

 

Again, i'm biased, but the FC Barcelona of the last 4 years has been IMHO the 
best quality football there has ever been and if you're not excited by Messi or 
Villa then fek knows. 

 

Hasta Luego! :-> 

 

BMW

 

 

> From: dsm...@dsmail.plus.com
> To: c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:03:14 +0100
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil
> 
> I see your point, but you are comparing a current day 2nd tier English club 
> with the World Champions. Well done to Spain and Barcelona for their 
> respective triumphs, but
> they have created a bland rigid style with no option to change and 
> presumably no intention of ever trying to. (Whilst Pat Nevin's observations 
> were interesting, it doesn't change the fact that it's boring.)
> This was clearly shown when they were losing 3-0 to Brazil the other night 
> and a change of tempo / style was needed and they weren't able to. A lot of 
> managers say that they concentrate on what their own team does and not worry 
> so much about the oppo.
> I believe this idea to have faults. It's the team that can adapt best to 
> what the opposition is doing that bosses the game. Spain could not adapt to 
> what Brazil were throwing at them
> and just continued as they were and went on to concede more goals.
> 
> I don't consider myself audacious one bit, but the Spanish way which has 
> worked for them for so long is being replaced by a multi paced / styled 
> system as shown by the likes of Brazil and Bayern.
> And the big point - it's great to watch!
> 
> One or two players with 10% of the likes of Iniesta's quality would be 
> dragged down by the other donkeys in the team. Think big, we need a bunch of 
> them. I w

Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil

[Brendan McWilliams]

Again, see previous email and my disclaimer and bias, BUT there have of 
course been some boring matches with Spain,  largely during Euro 2012 - but one 
has to blame the opposition they were up against and the tactics they employed 
to negate them. 

 

Two dire games involving Spain were the matches last year against France (Euro 
QF) and then the SF against Portugal.  

Both France & Portugal did nothing whatsoever beyond parking the bus as per 
what Mourinho had Inter Milan do against FCB in the CL Semi final of 2010. Both 
oppositions had 1 true creative player - Ribery, Ronaldo - with the remainder 
not likely to thread a pass like Pirlo. 

 

The surprise of Euro 2012 was how Italy didn't employ anthing remotely like 
catenaccio in any match - in particular the first game against Spain which was 
an absolute belter. Italy again tried to play and attack in the final, and 
Spain took full advantage in a far from boring match.  

 

Iniesta and Xavi are simply not capable of playing boring football - they are 
constantly looking for the killer pass and if they can't do that they short 
pass it keeping possession. 

 

Anyhow, with new signing Luke Murphy we'll be making the same complaint very 
soon! 

 

Btw, any takers yet for Tonge, Brown-eh, Pugh, Pearce, Varney and Norris yet??? 
 Actually, do we want rid of Tonge? 
 

> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:50:59 +0100
> From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
> To: dsm...@dsmail.plus.com; c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil
> 
> Spain have played some of the best passing football the world has ever seen - 
> even in the Uruguay match some of the layoffs were superb, and how they only 
> got 2 is beyond me. Spain have also played some of the most boring footie too 
> on occasion - mind numbing stuff . Some teams will find them out, most won't! 
>  
> To deny their absolute class is obtuse, but to deny how boring they are 'at 
> times' is to ignore reality.
>  
> Right, off the fence...
> 
> 
> 
> From: Sutton / Smail 
> To: Chris Briggs  
> Cc: leeds List (Post to list)  
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 10:03
> Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] test

[Brendan Osborne]

Tickles. 


> > :-)
> > On Jul 16, 2013 11:24 AM, "Graham Farr"  wrote:
> > 
> >> test
> 
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Re: [LU] is everyone dead ?

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hola, 

 

from this sunny armchair, I would make the following comments:

 

1) Pre Season form means NOTHING. In fact, for years LUFC have won the most if 
not all the 6(?) pre season games only to then sh1t it the moment the league 
starts in earnest. The fact they have lost a few really means nothing at all, 
and they should only be used for fitness and formations.  Now, lose the first 
three league games that would be an issue... 

 

2) the new gold strip is a bit shocking, one that you'll look back upon as soon 
as next year and say to yourself "oh ffs...)... but then again if it was up to 
me they'd play in a white polo with the club badge only, so anything else is 
just gaudy.

 

3) if McD says some have to go out before some can be transferred in, well, if 
i check the squad list from the paragon of truth and reliability that is 
Wikipedia, there are 28 players in the 1st team squad - and the limit is 25?  
Of course Lenighan and Killock may be loaned out but it does seem to be the 
case that quite a number have to go before others can come in. Obviously those 
most likely - for me at least - would be: Pugh, Brown, Hall, Norris, Varney and 
maybe even Aidy White?

 

In saying that i don't know how much this 25 man squad rule is enforced or if 
it applies to players over 21 only. 

 

Perhaps GFH are skint and haven't got any cash to throw around but without 
question the LUFC squad at present needs to get rid of 4 to 6 players and some 
out before some come in doesn't surprise. 

 

Regards,

 

BMW
 

> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:19:36 +0100
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] is everyone dead ?
> 
> After an awful performance at Walsall,and  some worrying words from McDermott 
> about our finances failed to raise any posts on the list I was sure the 
> release of a gold - yes gold - away kit would have the list buzzing , but not 
> a thing !!
> 
> Perhaps we should all stick to non LU stuff that seems to get lots of 
> response on here ?
> 
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Re: [LU] tonights line up

[Brendan Osborne]

1-0 Noel Hunt.

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Subject: [LU] tonights line up
Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 19:38




Just in case anyone is actually interested*
The starting line up tonight is
Cairns, Thompson, Killock, Taylor, Drury, Austin, Hunt, Dawson, Mowatt, Smith, 
Hall.


Austin is banned for Sat (and Chesterfield game) so that is why he is playing - 
not sure what it means for Hunt and Smith, or indeed Drury and Thompson who may 
have expected to be in the squad on Saturday

Good to see Hall getting a run out - he is probably not the answer to our 
winger problems but at least if he gets a few run outs Brian McD can get a 
proper look at him before deciding

Dave

* Last pre season game, Bates gone and threatening to sue, Brian again saying 
can't bring anyone in till some leave, Harvey getting FL top job, Brighton game 
heading for a sell out , more talk of Arab take-overs, - none of these have 
raised even a couple of posts on here


Dave
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Re: [LU] tonights line up

[Brendan Osborne]

2 up now. Ryan Hall.

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1-0 Noel Hunt.

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Subject: [LU] tonights line up
Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 19:38




Just in case anyone is actually interested*
The starting line up tonight is
Cairns, Thompson, Killock, Taylor, Drury, Austin, Hunt, Dawson, Mowatt, Smith, 
Hall.


Austin is banned for Sat (and Chesterfield game) so that is why he is playing - 
not sure what it means for Hunt and Smith, or indeed Drury and Thompson who may 
have expected to be in the squad on Saturday

Good to see Hall getting a run out - he is probably not the answer to our 
winger problems but at least if he gets a few run outs Brian McD can get a 
proper look at him before deciding

Dave

* Last pre season game, Bates gone and threatening to sue, Brian again saying 
can't bring anyone in till some leave, Harvey getting FL top job, Brighton game 
heading for a sell out , more talk of Arab take-overs, - none of these have 
raised even a couple of posts on here


Dave
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Re: [LU] tonights line up

[Brendan Osborne]

3-0 now. Ross Killock

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Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 20:14





2 up now. Ryan Hall.

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1-0 Noel Hunt.

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From: "nat...@sky.com" 
To: "leeds list" 
Subject: [LU] tonights line up
Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 19:38




Just in case anyone is actually interested*
The starting line up tonight is
Cairns, Thompson, Killock, Taylor, Drury, Austin, Hunt, Dawson, Mowatt, Smith, 
Hall.


Austin is banned for Sat (and Chesterfield game) so that is why he is playing - 
not sure what it means for Hunt and Smith, or indeed Drury and Thompson who may 
have expected to be in the squad on Saturday

Good to see Hall getting a run out - he is probably not the answer to our 
winger problems but at least if he gets a few run outs Brian McD can get a 
proper look at him before deciding

Dave

* Last pre season game, Bates gone and threatening to sue, Brian again saying 
can't bring anyone in till some leave, Harvey getting FL top job, Brighton game 
heading for a sell out , more talk of Arab take-overs, - none of these have 
raised even a couple of posts on here


Dave
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[LU] Last night vs Shelbourne

[Brendan Osborne]

Couple of thoughts from last nights game.  
We played a very mediocre League of Ireland side who have been
struggling at the bottom of the league all season, but who had recently put a
few wins together. Despite the lack of most of our first team squad, we pretty
much bossed the game, and ran out comfortable winners in the end.


Rudi dominated the centre of the park and sprayed some lovely 40 yard
passes around from there. We seemed to be playing nice football and there was
less “hoof it up to Matt Smith” than I thought there might have been, when I
saw him on the team sheet. Smith is basically our version of Peter Crouch,
without the deft touch and fitness. He seemed to be slow and a bit heavy but
was a threat every time the ball got into the box.


Young Chris Dawson was lively in the middle of the park, and after some
initial hiccups settled well and was busy and assured on the ball. He’s small
and a little lightweight but will be one to watch for the future. Ryan Hall
scored twice on the night, but could have given the team a few more chances if
he looked up occasionally when on the ball. 


The back four were comfortable all night, but that probably had more to
do with the quality of the opposition. Noel Hunt put in a good shift and looked
sharp for his 60 minutes.


Overall I was pleased with the effort they put in, but on the grounds
that most of the team from last night will be on the periphery of the first
team squad, it wasn’t really surprising that they gave their all. Overall 
enjoyable for a meaningless game!!
Ossie
  
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Re: [LU] captain

[Brendan Osborne]

Actually I was right behind the Leeds dugout last night - McDermott was 
constantly talking to Rudi, and his most common phrase was "Keep the shape to 
the team" - that could've been because he was the most experienced and there 
were quite a few younger lads out there.
Incidentally, McD seems to be a very sound bloke, and didn't refuse any 
autographs or requests for pictures. He's a lot smaller than he looks on TV!! 
:-)
Betty - I was driving - saving my pints for the weekend after the Brighton game!

Ossie

> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:49:01 +0100
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] captain
> 
> I notice that Rudy was made captain for the match yesterday- is this just a 
> one off for what was basically a reserve team or a sign of things to come ?
> 
>
  
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Re: [LU] Best quote from Salah in his interview

[Brendan Osborne]

Mike, I read it differently.
The Club and the Business are separate in the eyes of the owners.
The club stands for the history, tradition and ethos that is Leeds United 
football club, whereas their interests are purely in making money. Therefore 
they are happy to call us the de facto owners of the Club.
Making money in football is aligned to a happy support base, so if you make 
statements like this, and sack Bates, and remove all his sundry negative 
business alliances with the club, reduce ticket prices etc etc you encourage 
people to come back to Elland Road. This is borne out by the statistic that we 
will have our biggest opening day crowd for several years, despite the lack of 
(huge) investment in the transfer market.
A large regular attendance boosts the coffers (and possibly the transfer 
budget) and makes us a more attractive prospect for a potential investor.
So where you might read the statement as flim flam, it is not without purpose. 
I salute the fact that they recognize the fans at last - we've had years of 
Bates p*ssing us off, so it's a welcome change. Ultimately it cost NOTHING to 
make such statements so why not?

Ossie

> From: beden...@gmail.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; nat...@sky.com
> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:08:57 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] Best quote from Salah in his interview
> 
> I so suspect sound bites.
> 

> 
> 
> 
> From: nat...@sky.com
> Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎July‎ ‎31‎, ‎2013 ‎5‎:‎38‎ ‎PM
> To: leeds list
> 
> "The fans are the de facto owners of the club"
> 

> 
> Dave

  
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[LU] Come from behind ..... again

[Brendan Osborne]

One nil down after 20 mins, we've just scored two in 3 mins  - Brown and Poleon.

MOT   
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Re: [LU] Chesterfield report

[Brendan Osborne]

Could I just add to the general cap doffing to Dave, Rich W and all other 
regular match reportists.
I always enjoy reading them, they're generally much more insightful than 
anything you'll read online or in the printed media.
Keep it up guys!!!

Ossie

> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:51:37 +0100
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: tedhea...@gmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Chesterfield report
> 
> 
> 
> You should give it a go Ted - the more reports we get , the more those abroad 
> etc can get a feel for what is going on, plus it lets us argue and discuss 
> our different views of the same thing (I found it odd that there were 10 
> emails about 'techie stuff' this morning and only 5 about Chesterfield.
> 
> My memory is mixed and for most games I am fairly drunk and take a lot of 
> prescription drugs so I am not always 'compos mentis' when I watch the games.
> My tactical nous is about nil - hence my reports being more general and more 
> about things like the crowd rather than Rich W's reports which discuss the 
> ins and outs of our formation etc
> 
> As for writing style  I doubt anyone cares much
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for the report Dave, (and for all the other stuff you post)  I think
> at the moment there only seems to be you and Rich W who post match reports
> - where's everyone else?
> 
> (I've got a rubbish memory, limited tactical nous and am not a very good
> writer - otherwise I'd do brilliant reports!)
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Re: [LU] Podcast

[Brendan Osborne]

 Now we know how Norwich feel!! Ba Dum Tish!! :-)


> To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> From: m...@leeds-united.net
> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:55:26 +
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Podcast
> 
> This week's is basically that having given norwich one of our top 10 
> goalscorers of all time and him sat on a bench being no use, the trade we got 
> is now at Millwall so we effectively got nothing for becchio
> 
> 

  
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Re: [LU] Comms?

[Brendan Osborne]

Streaming here
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/stevenelson334
MOT

> From: markpill...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 19:15:40 +0300
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Comms?
> 
> Hi gang
> 
> Commentary link anywhere?
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[LU] A reminder...

[Brendan Osborne]

For those of you with a subscription to Sky which excludes Sky Sports, on 
Saturday, Sky will have open access to Sky Sports 1 as part of the Premiership 
season opening day celebrations. The good news for us is that this will allow 
free access to our game with Sheffield Wednesday!! 
MOT!!

Ossie 
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Re: [LU] Sky

[Brendan Osborne]

Sky 2.channel 121

MOT


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From: "Wayne" 
To: "Leeds List" 
Subject: [LU] Sky
Date: Sat, Aug 17, 2013 11:58




Did someone say sky sports was free to watch today.. What channel? The normal 
sky sports 1 channel  wants me to upgrade to watch.

Wayne

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Re: [LU] Chelscum

[Brendan McWilliams]

Mourinho is hugely entertaining at the beginning of his 3 year max stay at Club 
X, then around the mid way point of the 2nd season he becomes a bit of a pain 
with the whole paranoia and victimisation tactics he employs to motivate the 
players. 

 

This accelerates into the 3rd season at which point he will have then lost the 
players, the press genuinely get fed up with him, he then invents the lack of 
backing from the club and/or not selecting a high profile club player  - then 
he moves on. 

 

As to Chelsea itself, they have long replaced Man U at the top of my least 
liked clubs.  
 

> From: dsm...@dsmail.plus.com
> To: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 02:36:30 +0100
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Chelscum
> 
> I'm particularly pleased that Morhinio is back on these shores. His comments 
> and style add a certain spark. Even if they cause "hatred", it all adds to 
> the fun!
> Chelsea and Man U are just big teams doing what they do - sadly we are not 
> these days.
> Jose for Elland Road please - bring it on!
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: [LU] Bates

[Brendan Osborne]

A young 52 year old 😁 wishes you a Very Happy Birthday from Johannesburg (temp 
work assignment).
Cheers Betty, enjoy!!

> From: davesow...@hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 17:23:41 +0800
> To: j...@boocock.net
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Bates
> 
> Birthday greetings from Singapore Betty
> 
> I hit 60 end of 2011. It wasn't that bad! I got to play what will almost 
> certainly be my last gig!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 3 Oct, 2013, at 3:05 pm, j...@boocock.net wrote:
> > 
> > I got dogs abuse for what I said especially the Evening Post and so called 
> > lefty journalist Pete Lazenby. It was at that point I thought bollocks to 
> > it all. I had helped an honourable man, Norman Stubbs work towards putting 
> > a very credible package together: club , ground and training ground but 
> > because he wasn't willing to keel over to things like  the financial 
> > demands of some members of the Kronsortium we got Bates and all that that 
> > would mean. The abuse wasn't important (some Leeds Fans even assaulted me 
> > in City Station) what was important was the fact that someone with Bates' 
> > well documented history could even be considered as fit to own a football 
> > club.

> > 
> > Football authorities and the football world take a bow!
> > 
> > I'm enjoying my retirement.
> > 
> > Betty
> > (60 today)
> > 

  
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Re: [LU] Happy Birthday John Boocock!

[Brendan McWilliams]

FELICIDADES BETTY, QUE CUMPLAS MUCHOS MÁS! 

Don BMW

 Original message 
From: John Boocock  
Date: 03/10/2013  15:19  (GMT+01:00) 
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Happy Birthday John Boocock! 
 
Thanks everyone - all back to mine after work?

I have the keys to Pete's wagon!

Betty
(I'm 60 you know!)
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Re: [LU] Marius

[Brendan Osborne]

Ditto - look after yourself Dave!!
Ossie

> From: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 08:53:44 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] Marius
> 
> sorry to hear you took a bit of knock back Dave, very glad to hear you are
> better.
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
> 
> Triumph Computer Services
> 01273 505214
> 07974870424
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
> Behalf Of nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 30 October 2013 07:35
> To: leeds list
> Subject: [LU] Marius
> 
> I watched the u21s / Dev squad live on youtube at Barnsley last night (the
> feed was not good so hard to work bits out) We lost 4 3 - Marius Zaliukas
> played and although he looked OK I note that in the 2 games we have played
> we have conceded 7 goals !! (3-3 v Sheff Wed) He looked big and fairly
> commanding and did a couple of decent passes BUT 2 of their goals did come
> from set pieces.
> Cairns looked like the new Rehubka - he was at fault for 2 of the goals
> 
> We had the vast majority of the game but wasted loads of chances inc Poleon
> hitting a penalty wide.
> 
> 
> In case anyone was wondering where I have been and why no report from me on
> Brum - if you recall in my Bournemouth report I did say I was in pain -
> turns out I was quite ill and ended up in hospital on a drip for a week and
> a bit and then I went to Lanzarote for a week to recuperate. Am Ok now (I
> hope) and am looking forward to Yoevil game on Sat
> 
> Dave
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Re: [LU] for Ed Watkinson

[Brendan Osborne]

Btw...game delayed for 30 mins today. Pitch very wet but just passed inspection.

MOT

Ossie

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From: "John Lee" 
To: "Leeds List 2010" 
Subject: [LU] for Ed Watkinson
Date: Sat, Nov 9, 2013 14:22





Ed - stupidly deleted your email - ping me it off line and we'll have an 
e-natter. Saw Colin on the train last night and he said you'd both ben dancing 
in the aisles at a Leonard Cohen gig :-)
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Re: [LU] John Sykes

[Brendan Osborne]

Brenda & Cindy
I'd like to add my condolences to the many on this list who have already been 
in touch.
I never met John, but I always enjoyed reading his contributions to the list. I 
think it's obvious that we all felt like we knew him, and are sad to hear of 
his passing.  
Rest in peace Grampa Sykes.

Brendan


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Re: [LU] Link?

[Brendan Osborne]

http://leedsunitedlivestreaming.webs.com/
Oh and Ross just scored again 2-0 now!! MOT!

> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:00:07 -0800
> From: arm...@yahoo.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Link?
> 
> Sorry to ask this again
> 
> I would sign up for LUTV but I did so earlier in the Summer and none of the 
> videos worked. Kind of pissed me off. Anyone had more luck lately?
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Re: [LU] PO'C Removal

[Brendan Osborne]

Thanks to you both for representing us. Cheers.


> From: ni...@sykesonline.com
> To: jameslun...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:27:06 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] PO'C Removal
> 
> Well done James.
> 
> I attended the ceremony at the church.  It was a very big turn out -
> literally standing room only.  It was testament to the man's generosity of
> spirit and to his fellow man.
> 
> Listers will be touched to hear that amongst several items placed on a table
> at the front, to represent the important things in Padraig's life, were a
> Leeds United shirt and a charger cable for a laptop, which I think are
> particularly poignant in our little sphere of contact.  'We' were also
> mentioned by his family when they spoke, and there was even a prayer read
> out to all people in supporters groups - Padraig was also active on other
> Internet groups, to do with his charity cycling activities etc.
> 
> It was a moving ceremony, and I was happy to be there to help represent the
> List.  
> 
> Padraig was a top bloke, and he will clearly be missed by many...
> 
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
> Behalf Of James A. Lundon @ Yahoo!
> Sent: 18 December 2013 11:44
> To: LeedsList
> Subject: [LU] PO'C Removal
> 
> List Folks,
> 
> I made it up to the removal last night near Dun Laoghaire but missed the
> funeral home part as I got lost en route - I don't 
> 
> go to Dublin that often and the place has changed a lot since 
> 
> I worked up there over 25 years ago. 
> 
> I made my way back to PO'C's home though, and was invited in where I spent
> the guts of an hour trying to explain what mailing lists, list meets,
> MOALMs, Adelphi/Britannia pub crawls were all about. 
> 
> His wife, kids and Brid were really appreciative of the efforts I made to be
> there and passed along their best regards to all of you.
> 
> We did our bit!
> 
> James.
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Re: [LU] Barnsley

[Brendan Osborne]

Cheers Rich
Sounds like it was bloody awful!! 
Thanks for your reports throughout the year - enjoy your Chateauneuf-Du-Pape 
mate!
Happy Christmas

Ossie

> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 19:39:11 +
> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Barnsley
> 
> There’s nothing like a poor Leeds perfrormance to put you in a bad mood 
> pre-Christmas. I was looking forward to my bottle of Chateauneuf-Du-Pape 
> tonight after a great win over our bogey team Barnsley. What I actually feel 
> is completely pissed off with a performance that was so poor I really found 
> myself questioning the manager and a lot of the team. 
> 
> How many managers do you know would play a 5-3-3 wing back system with Danny 
> fecking Pugh and Lee fecking Peltier as wing backs ? 
> 
> First Peltier. Worse captain ever (even worse than Butler and Aizlewood) and 
> now is being reinvented as some sort of rampaging wing back. He’s so limited 
> in his play its untrue and when it comes to defending he’s not right good at 
> that either. Waste of space. 
> 
> Second Pugh. I really have to question the sanity of a manager who not only 
> pick him in a team pushing for promotion but actually play him as a wing 
> back. The guy can’t defend, has no pace and no skill. Granted he has a half 
> decent left foot but the amount of times he got into great positions and just 
> floated over an aimless cross was beyond frustration. He adds stability 
> apparently !? Give it a rest, he adds bugga all and BMD should hang his head 
> in shame if he thinks that this is the answer to our left sided crises. 
> 
> The 5 at the back is so blatantly not working, nobody knows who is marking 
> who ? There are massive gaps all over the shop. Barnsley carved us apart in 
> the first 30 minutes, not through creative, inventive play but through the 
> massive holes and space that appeared on the left side of our defence. Jason 
> Pearce is playing as a left back, Tom Lees as a right back and our Lithuanian 
> (sorry still don’t know his name) is isolated as our only cenre back. The 
> amount of times he was left one on one at the back was criminal. I like the 
> look of the lad but in this system its all or nothing and he had to put in a 
> load of reckless challenges , most of which to his credit he got away with. 
> On other occasions he didn’t and Barnsley really should have taken the lead 
> on more than one occasion. 
> 
> In midfield we look lightweight especially with 3 players. Mowatt, a player 
> who I think has done ok in the games I’ve seen, didn’t look right from the 
> start. He really looked all at sea and maybe he was injured ‘cos BMD dragged 
> him off at half-time. With Mowatt having an off day it lies with Murphy and 
> Austin to drag us along. That ain’t gonna happen is it ? 
> 
> and up front, the slowest combination of strikers in the country - Macca and 
> Smith. What a partnership ? Yes they’ve scored goals but on this performance 
> the partnership has no future whatsoever. 
> 
> Back to the first half  yes we had chances. Actually, I should say Matt 
> Smith had chances. Two very straight forward finishes. The first a Danny Pugh 
> ball (his best and only decent cross of the game) fell kindly and Smith 
> looked in control. He shot directly at the advancing keeper who made a good 
> save (according to people sat near me in the NE Upper). I’d say it was a bad 
> miss. 
> 
> then he was put through again by a great intelligent ball from Macca, he was 
> weak and scraped the ball into the keeper’s arms. Today, Smith made some of 
> Becchio’s performances look sharp. He is flat footed, tall but actually 
> pretty shit in the air and in terms of ability he looks like a centre half. 
> Actually that’s being unkind to most centre halves. John Pearson is the 
> nearest comparison I can make, again emphasing my point that you can be shit 
> but still score goals in this league. It really means feck all. Becchio is 
> the ultimate example of this point. 
> 
> In that first half, it has to be said that Barnsley were the better side. 
> They played football, they passed the ball, they had a bit of pace and skill 
> up front. We were hopeless and most of the time despite playing on paper what 
> looks like a progressive 5-3-3, what we actually did most of the time is punt 
> it long to the hapless Smith in the hope of a knock down. You have to ask 
> serious questions about that first half performance. We made Barnsley look 
> good and they are not. Their no 11 - a 4ft player with blonde hair looked 
> like Lionel Messi next to Austin, Murphy and Mowatt. We really lack the 
> basics at times. 
> 
> We did have other chances. In fact the best chance should have been handed to 
> Macca. A decent bit of play from us, ended with Murphy only having to play a 
> simple one-two type ball in to Macca and he was in, Murphy pathetically over 
> cooked the pass and it went astray. Macca just looked at Murphy, arms in the 
> air and h

Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

[Brendan Osborne]

Get in Matt Smith 1-2 now!

MOT

> From: dsm...@dsmail.plus.com
> To: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 16:07:49 +
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn link here
> 
> It's been coming for months. We are clueless and panic in possession which
> normally leads to a hoof as the pressure and burden of possession gets too
> much.
> We have no money so don't expect any great signings - just the usual crop of
> has beens. Interesting to see what happens though. Wouldn't mind losing
> all the time if we were on the right track, but we're simply awful and I'm
> nearing the point where disappointment gives way to becoming ashamed!
> The good people of Leeds still paying to watch this? I raise my glass to you
> all.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Fwd: Re: Game tonight

[Brendan Osborne]

Can't help thinking that tonight is make or break for BMD - I hope it isn't.
I just feel if we could get a decent foothold early in the game, it would give 
us the confidence we need to go on and win the game and build on this to 
eventually get back in to play off contention. 
We've had our bad patch, it's time for some other teams to have a wobble!!
MOT
Ossie(childhood dreams of eventually playing the Sniffer Clarke role for Leeds) 
:-)

> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:32:02 +
> From: n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Fwd: Re:  Game tonight
> 
> 
> Well I'm looking forward to the game tonight, mainly because its Leeds Utd and
> I'm a Leeds Utd fan and most of my childhood was spent dreaming about playing
> CHalf for Leeds Utd.
> 

  
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[LU] HT 0-0

[Brendan Osborne]

Sounds like a snore - anyone there?
Sky saying that we are short of ideas going forward - no shots on target from 
either team yet?

MOT.

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Re: [LU] HT 0-0

[Brendan Osborne]

Went behind but now level 1-1 Ross McCormack penalty.
Kenny apparently had a howler for their goal - a 30 yard speculative shot that 
he should've easily saved.
I'd nearly take the draw now! 

Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:42:54 +
From: matthew.gayn...@btopenworld.com
Subject: Re: [LU] HT 0-0
To: bosborn...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org

DRBs half-time review;
"It's rubbish. They're rubbish. We're rubbish"
Matt

From: Brendan Osborne 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014, 20:36
 Subject: [LU] HT 0-0
   
Sounds like a snore - anyone there?
Sky saying that we are short of ideas going forward - no shots on target from 
either team yet?

MOT.

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Re: [LU] Fwd: The life of Brian

[Brendan Osborne]

Sorry, the title of this thread is making me laugh more than it should.
An old uncle of mine (called Brian) died a couple of weeks back, and at his 
funeral, the priest said:
"We must thank God for the Life of Brian"
My brother, sitting beside me, whispers:
"Great movie, can't believe that old priest is a Python fan"  :-)


Ossie

> From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:55:16 +0800
> To: n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd:  The life of Brian
> 
> The yep article has made me feel sick. Poor old Brian. It's just not how 
> civilised people behave.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 30 Jan 2014, at 17:31, "n...@6haroldplace.co.uk" 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bloody shafted by another bloody off-shore Tory again…effin wankers...they 
> > are a
> > plague
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> -- Original Message --

  
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Re: [LU] Where now ?

[Brendan Osborne]

Hope the new crowd honour your 20 year ticket Dave!! :-)
As Betty ( I think ) said, 10pm tomorrow evening a takeover will go through, 
just late enough to do NO business in the transfer window. 

MOT

> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:56:38 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Where now ?
> 
> So Haigh and his attempted take over with Sports Capital has been withdrawn,
> That leaves us with a skint GFH who want to get out, a very dodgy Italian who 
> may not even pass the fit and proper test, and another consortium with a ex 
> Man U director or whatever
> 
> Things look bleak indeed
> Still MOT eh ?
> 
> Dave
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Re: [LU] cellino new owner ?

[Brendan Osborne]

That's a shame if true. A gentleman who really seemed to get us.

MOT

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To: 
Subject: [LU] cellino new owner ?
Date: Fri, Jan 31, 2014 19:56




All over Twitter Bmcd sacked

On 31 Jan 2014 19:18, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
>
> With Cellino lying back smoking a cigar with a glass of chianti.
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Chris Briggs wrote:
>
> > Given the way the take over has gone I think 'pimped' might be close, 
> > followed by 'gang banged'.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 31 Jan 2014, at 18:44, j...@boocock.net wrote:
> >>
> >> Briggsy said "cheap" add to that "prostituted"
> >>
> >> Betty
> >>
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[LU] 6 enquiries for Ross since his interview earlier

[Brendan Osborne]

This has to be one of the craziest f*ckin meltdown stupid things that the club 
has done.
Imposters indeed!




  
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Re: [LU] Today

[Brendan Osborne]

Dave
I think most of us are in the same boat, not knowing what to feel or how to 
react.
In the circumstances, I've gone for the simpler view - they are, and always 
will be my team, so ups and downs are all part of the agony and occasional 
ecstacy that it is to be associated with the (once) Mighty Whites!
I know Brian's name will be chanted today and I'm with that sentiment. I'm 
hugely against his sacking despite recent results. You can't appoint a guy, 
hamstring him with no funds, and then sack him. He was one of the most decent 
managers that we've had in the last 10 years, and he really seemed to 
understand the culture, history and expectation of the club and supporters. I 
can't recall an interview with him when he didn't mention the wonderful fans.
So Arrivederci Brian, good luck to all today, and Captain Ross, rouse that team 
of ours today, use whatever motivation you can from the mess of the last 24 
hours, and go and get us 3 points!!

MOT


Ossie

> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 09:18:05 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Today
> 
> Well it was not all a dream after all !
> Will be setting off to ER in half an hour or so. Before 5pm or whenever last 
> night I was expecting to travel to the game hoping for a good performance and 
> a win, and expecting to get behind Brian and the team, but now I am just 
> gob-smacked
> I really do not know how to feel or react - we are in turmoil, the OS still 
> does not mention the sacking or the take over, so I do not know who will be 
> in charge of either the club, or, more importantly the team. Rumour has it 
> Festa will be manager and there may be any number of Italians from 0 to 4 
> depending on whose twitter you believe.
> Do I chant McDermotts name (probably) even though recent results make his 
> sacking almost reasonable albeit a bit premature. Do I boo GFH - will they be 
> there ?
> .Do I boo some Italian who may or not buy the club? I know nothing about him 
> other than he has fraud convictions and , like many foreign owners, likes to 
> sack managers quickly. If he has the money and pumps it into the club isn't 
> that what we have all be calling for ?
> 
> Will any demonstrations or abuse change his mind about buying the club ? Will 
> it affect the FL when they look at fit and proper person ?
> 
> What happens when the game kicks off , do I ignore it and concentrate on 
> ownership etc or cheer the players and get behind them - does that include 
> Varney after his refusal to play on Tuesday or was his stance warranted , the 
> same with Ross, do I give him a hero's welcome after his comments yesterday 
> which I approved of at the time or is he the selfish Judas that Simon Jordan 
> tried to paint him ?
> 
> Confusion reigns in my head, I am sure a few pints, a good shot of morphine 
> and a chin wag with my son (making his first appearance of the season) and my 
> mates will sort me out
> 
> I will do a match report and try and let those of you far away know what the 
> atmosphere was like and how fans have reacted
> 
> Whatever I still want 3 points !!!
> 

  
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[LU] 1-1

[Brendan Osborne]

McCormack - get in!   
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[LU] 2-1

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Jimmy Kebe!!  
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[LU] 3-1

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Ross again!! 
MOT   
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[LU] Hat trick Ross

[Brendan Osborne]

4-1
Can we have a disastrous takeover every week?   
  
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[LU] 5-1

[Brendan Osborne]

Mowatt now :-)
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Brendan Osborne]

Oe Missus!! Strictly hetro me!! :-)

Ossie

> From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:32:16 +0800
> To: davidwool...@gmail.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
> 
> That's actually quite well put.
> 
> I would classify myself as camp 2. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

  
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Re: [LU] Unwatchable football

[Brendan Osborne]

1-0 Yeovil. Apparently were playing with the wind second half. Another 5-1 for 
us please. Sounds awful though.

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Subject: [LU] Unwatchable football
Date: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 12:52




22 players, none of whom can spot the problem with hoofing it into the air when 
there's a gale-force wind blowing??? The exact opposite of the beautiful game 
is playing out in Yeovil.

And this is the second tier of English football??

Awful stuff
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Re: [LU] Unwatchable football

[Brendan Osborne]

1-1 now. Get in Ross.

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From: "Wayne" 
To: "Richard Walker" , "John Lee" 

Cc: "LEEDSLIST" 
Subject: [LU] Unwatchable football
Date: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 13:17




   Kenny can't kick it more than 10 yards out of his box because of the
   wind, so why the fk have we passed it back to him at every opportunity,
   I know footballers are not always the sharpest tools in the box but how
   fkin brain dead are our lot.
   I expect it' 'll be different 2nd half and if we don't score 3
   'McDermot out'
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   From: Richard Walker
   Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 12:55 pm
   To: John Lee 
   CC:LEEDSLIST 
   Subject: Re: [LU] Unwatchable football
   Yep was thinking the same thing. On conditions awful and wind against
   us but FFS some of our play has just been brainless - Mowatt and Murphy
   bloody awful .
   Second half will show how good we are (or how bad)
   > On 8 Feb 2014, at 12:52, John Lee wrote:
   >
   > 22 players, none of whom can spot the problem with hoofing it into
   the air when there's a gale-force wind blowing??? The exact opposite of
   the beautiful game is playing out in Yeovil.
   >
   > And this is the second tier of English football??
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   > Awful stuff
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Re: [LU] Steve Gillen

[Brendan Osborne]

I've passed on my message of support to Paula's direct mail - just in case 
she's not reading these messages.
If I could lighten the humour by telling Paula to ensure that they do not hook 
Steve up to any machines whose manufacturer once sponsored a certain Red team 
from the Manchester area. :-)
I always am hugely impressed by Steves' dedication to avoiding Sharp and AIG 
products!!!
MOT Steve.

Ossie

> From: jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:04:51 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] Steve Gillen
> 
> Paula
> 
> I have never met Steve but obviously share a common bond and have always
> been entertained by his comments on this list.
> He seemingly always wears his heart on his sleeve and it has always been
> evident that the two of you are a strong loving couple.
> I'm sure that he's going to fight this all the way back to you and the
> people he loves.
> Stay strong, keep your faith in his desire to beat this and win, we are all
> their with you.
> 
> Jezz Thorpe
> MOT
> 
> 
> > On 18 February 2014 08:10, Steve Gillen  wrote:
> > 
> >> Hello Leeds List,
> >> 
> >> I am not sure how to contact you all so hopefully this will get 
> >> about.  My name is Paula Gillen, My husband Steve is a part of your 
> >> group. I wanted to tell you that Steve is in ICU in very, very 
> >> critical condition.  He has infections that the doctors cannot 
> >> identify that are attacking his body and are trying to find an 
> >> antibiotic(s) that will be able to kill it. So far they are only 
> >> managing barely to keep him from dying.  He is on dialysis and has 
> >> been put into an induced coma and is on a ventilator. They are doing 
> >> everything they can.  My email address is pgil...@ntlworld.com. I 
> >> have sent this email to my computer in case things go horribly wrong 
> >> and I can let you know. Please keep him in your thought and prayers. 
> >> Thank you,
> >> 
> >> Paula Gillen
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Update on Steve

[Brendan Osborne]

Paula,
Thanks so much for the detailed update. I'm sure that we all understand the 
"fog" that you must feel you are living in at the moment. Glad to hear that the 
list of "what it isn't" is growing by the day - hopefully they'll get to the 
bottom of this and be able to help Steve out of his current situation.

You both remain in my prayers. 

Brendan

> From: pgil...@ntlworld.com
> To: pgil...@ntlworld.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:51:57 +
> Subject: [LU] Update on Steve
> 
> Hello
> 
> Here are my last two updates to family and friends.  If I don't answer
> texts, emails, phone calls, please do be offended. Days and nights run into
> one long nightmare that I cannot wake up from.  My sister and brother-in-law
> leave on Sunday. I will miss them terribly.  I have to deal with this on my
> own and I will.  As long as the prayers continue, I will endure.  Thank you
> for your concern,
> 
>  
> 
> Paula x
> 
>  
> 
> Hello all. The latest on Steve. They have determined that it is not his
> immune system; he does not have swine flu so not masks are not longer needed
> and his door is open to allow fresh air, his white blood cells count is just
> started to curve downward. He may infection and possibly more than one. He
> still has the ventilator in to feed oxygen in but now the breathes taken are
> his own. They are trying to bring him around slowly but if he shows any sign
> of panic or if his breathing becomes laboured again, he goes back under. His
> body needs him distracted to work as hard as it is. The doctors are very
> careful to advise that he is still in very very critical condition and it
> could still go bad. Doctors have to say this. I am grasping for any bright
> spot in this situation. They have taken a biopsy of the skin on his legs to
> test as they do not have any idea what he has. Hopefully the tests will be
> complete tomorrow and the will tell them something or they go back to more
> testing. They have taken him off some of the blood pressure meds, but his
> heart still requires help. He is getting some nutrition directly into the
> stomach through a tube going in his nose and down to there. He is not going
> to be happy to wake up to stuff like that. I have been talking to him about
> all the people out there who are praying for him and loving him in there
> wishes to get well. On behalf of myself and his children and grandchildren
> and all the rest of his extended family, we thank you from the bottom of our
> hearts. I will update you as and when there is something to report.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Update  - Spoke to the doctor today (20/2/2014) with Louise (his daughter)
> there.  His room door was closed as he had a watery stool and they are
> checking that nothing has entered his intestine, so we wait for more test
> results. The liquid nutrition continues. The skin biopsy may take a week to
> come back with a result.  It could be viral or a bacterial infection.  The
> circumstances of him getting whatever this is is a chance all of us take
> everyday and it just happened that he came into something where, as the
> doctor said, there was a gap in his system that made it possible to it to
> get into his system and run rampant.   If it is viral all they can do is let
> his body handle it, with them keeping him stable, and hope his heart keeps
> going.  If it is bacteria, they should have something in the antibiotic
> arsenal to help him.  They are bringing him out of the coma to fine out if
> what he has is affecting his brain and any other function. If he panics or
> becomes "unhelpful" to the point they have trouble doing what they need to
> do for him, then they will put him under.  His liver, and lungs are okay.
> His kidneys are not particularly okay and his heart goes into mad rhythms
> sometimes.  They say he is stable so we will hang on to that. He could go
> either way, but I am putting my hopes on him beating this. At least they are
> weeding out what it isn't and right now that list is bigger. When he turns
> the right corner and starts to come back to the world of the living instead
> of the half life that he now exists in, our lives will start heading in the
> normal direction and I will be able to function knowing he is beating this.
> Until them, I pray and I live in a fog but keep going.  I tell him everyone
> is out there praying for him on both sides of the pond.  If prayers and love
> can heal, he will be on his way to coming back to us.  Thank you for all you
> are doing. xx
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Re: [LU] Tec question Chrome or IE

[Brendan Osborne]

Internet Explorer - the best browser to use when downloading a better browser 
:-)

Ossie

> From: lee@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 05:42:23 -0800
> To: jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk; rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; 
> leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Tec question Chrome or IE
> 
> Hooray! Another Opera user. Hands down the best browser. As soon as you
> get used to the mouse gesture functionality you'll never go back. Not
> to mention the dozens of other features.
> 
> Opera invents most features and the rest catch up in about 12 months
> time...
> From: Jeremy Thorpe
> Sent: 21/02/2014 11:40
> To: Richard Naef; Leeds leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] Tec question Chrome or IE
> That was going to be my response as well...Firefox or Opera, both a long way
> ahead of the rest.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
> Behalf Of Richard Naef
> Subject: Re: [LU] Tec question Chrome or IE
> 
> Firefox!
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
> > Subject: [LU] Tec question Chrome or IE
> >
> > Hi
> > Which is really the better?
> > Chrome is supposed to be but...
> > GOOGLE seems to be going through a WINDOWS type megalomania.
> > There latest apps competing with Windows 8.1 has left me bewildered.
> > They have a new 'bar ' with other apps. Of course all GOOGLE. I cannot
> > fathom how to add non GOOGLE apps icons, like DROPBOX, OFFICE.Even
> > weirder is that there is another icon with almost identical bar in it.
> > What that does
> is
> > beyond me. Amazingly to get to the CALENDAR, for me the most useful
> > and synched app, you have to open gmail first.
> > And with all this new 'lets take on WINDOWS', CHROME seems much slower
> > than before.
> > So which is really better, CHROMEor IE?
> > Michael
> > Dr Michael Benjamin,
> > Community Psychiatrist
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Re: [LU] Steve latest update

[Brendan Osborne]

Agreed - thanks Paula - you are doing a great job for Steve and we are 
delighted that you take the time to keep us informed.
I'm sure none of us expect a direct response - keep doing what you're doing, 
look after yourself too!

Brendan

> To: pgil...@ntlworld.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> From: j...@boocock.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:00:02 +
> Subject: [LU] Steve latest update
> 
> Hi Paula, 
> 
> Thanks for your update, love. What a time for you and that lad eh?
> 
> Rest assured we are all thinking of both of you. The updates will be welcomed 
> by all the list have no doubts about that.
> 
> Take care of yourself too!
> 
> Tell Steve we were shite against the Smoggies, he'll love that.
> 
> Betty
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Re: [LU] update

[Brendan Osborne]

I think we're all getting them Jeremy. Sounds a little more positive today 
alright. 
If you replied to the mail I think it only goes to Paula.


Ossie
> From: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:38:42 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] update
> 
> Think this was sent to everyone by Paula but not fully sure. If not it seems 
> that Steve is in a slightly better state than he was a few days ago.
> Poor Paula must be exhausted.
> Jeremy
> > 
> > Just dashed home to see to cat. Has urinary infection that is resistant to
> > all antibiotics but one. Still fighting mild fever and extremely tired. CT
> > scan showed no infection in lungs, stomach or kidneys. White blood count
> > still coming down. Salt in blood was coming down. Haven't had test results
> > back. Legs are healing. No surgery needed. He is afraid for me to leave him
> > and panics and won't cooperate with nurses so have to do what needs to be
> > done when he is sleeping which is after the bath him and all that stuff.
> > Have to go back. At hospital again tonight.
> > 
> > More as and when. Please pass around as necessary.
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Re: [LU] Prospects -- Long and Short Term

[Brendan McWilliams]

Since that Friday evening in early Feb when we were all glued to Twitter the 
same thought has been going through my head - have we enough points to avoid 
relegation if we fall into Administration. 

44pts now and GD of -2, we'll need to get to 60pts from the remaining 12 
games... it's gonna be tight. 

If we do go into Admin briefly, what happens during the summer and next season 
- transfer embargo for how long? 

BMW

> From: m...@leeds-united.net
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:12:57 +
> To: mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Prospects -- Long and Short Term
> 
> I was more depressed this time last year with warnock 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Reading report

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi, 

 

I don't rule out Admin, but at the same time I expect Cellino's bid to go 
through - the FL knows that if he's rejected they are literally sinking the 
club. Plus who's that chappy who heads up the FL these days? Oh yeah... (for 
what it's worth).

 

Besides, a bit of alleged tax dodging is par for the course for any millionaire 
worth his salt. 

 

It's actually worse than the end of Colin's era, as this time a good guy 
espousing football has tried and actually failed bigger.

 

BMW
 

> From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 20:41:31 +1100
> To: nat...@sky.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Reading report
> 
> The season is over Dave - it's yet another wasted year. I haven't felt 
> positive about us since we had Larry and two premiership class wingers 
> tearing it up. I know I'm something of a broken record on this but Bates 
> destroyed us when we had a chance at promotion to the promised land. Now we 
> have nothing. Cellino is not going to get approved, clearly. I don't know 
> much about Italian law but I do know this much - there will be no finality 
> when his case is heard hence the league will not approve him. What does this 
> mean for us in a takeover sense?
> 
> Depressed of Perth.
> 
> MOT
> 
> Ian
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Re: [LU] Joke De jour - Positive Attitude

[Brendan Osborne]

Thursday night, I gradually woke up stiff as a plank in hospital's ICU, tubes
up my nose & down my throat, wires monitoring every function & all
around my head, hell of a pain over my left ear, and a gorgeous nurse hovering
over me. It was obvious I'd been in
a serious accident.

She looked at me deep & steady and I heard her slowly say, “You may not
feel anything from the waist down.”

I managed to mumble a reply, “Can I feel your tits, then?”





NOW THAT'S A POSITIVE ATTITUDE!



Have a nice day

> From: dubca...@iinet.net.au
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 20:26:09 +1100
> Subject: [LU] Joke De jour
> 
> Something to break the apathy
> 
>  
> 
> A Man Utd fan on holiday in Bradford narrowly escaped serious injury
> recently when he attempted horseback riding with no prior experience.
> 
>  
> 
> After mounting his horse unassisted, the horse immediately began moving.   
> 
>  
> 
> As it galloped along at a steady and rhythmic pace, the lad, who has not
> been named, began to slip sideways from the saddle.
> 
>  
> 
> Although attempting to grab for the horse's mane he could not get a firm
> grip. He then threw his arms around the horse's neck but continued to slide
> down the side of the horse.
> 
>  
> 
> The horse galloped along, seemingly oblivious to its slipping rider.
> 
>  
> 
> Finally, losing his grip, the rider attempted to leap away from the horse
> and throw himself to safety... however, his foot became entangled in the
> stirrup, leaving him at the mercy of the horse's pounding hooves as his head
> and upper body repeatedly struck the ground.
> 
>  
> 
> Moments away from unconsciousness and certain death, and to his great
> fortune a Leeds Utd supporter, also shopping at ALDI saw him and quickly
> unplugged the horse.
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Re: [LU] Audio commentary for Millwall

[Brendan Osborne]

Took the words out of my mouth Mick!! Just enjoy your holiday David!! 

Ossie :-)

> From: mick.robin...@miq.com
> To: altruistic1...@btinternet.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:33:13 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] Audio commentary for Millwall
> 
> My advice would be to go out and have some fun and forget that Leeds are 
> playing :-)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
> Behalf Of David Watson
> Sent: 21 March 2014 18:25
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Audio commentary for Millwall
> 
> Am currently on holiday in the Canaries and would like to know where I can 
> get audio commentary for the game tomorrow. I have a Google Nexus 7 - do I 
> need to download software and if so, is it safe from viruses.
> 
> Any advice gratefully accepted.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my Google Tablet
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Re: [LU] We want six...

[Brendan Osborne]

Don't bother - 3 nil now!! 

> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:11:34 -0700
> From: arm...@yahoo.com
> To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; ws.callag...@live.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] We want six...
> 
> cant find a feed
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Richard Walker 
> To: Wayne  
> Cc: Leeds List  
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [LU] We want six...
>  
> 
> Listening on RL , sounds like they are quicker and running us ragged.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 25 Mar 2014, at 20:05, Wayne  wrote:
> > 
> >   Looks Like we are in for another shocker
> >   2-0 down inside 20 mins and could have been more
> >   Sent by Enhanced Email for Android
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Re: [LU] We want six...

[Brendan Osborne]

Oh FFS - SSN are showing all Championship goals as they go in - my pub team 
would've defended the last goal better than that.
Shaving yer balls sounds like a good idea. 

> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 20:53:32 +
> To: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] We want six...
> 
> 4-0 free header
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 25 Mar 2014, at 20:51, Wayne  wrote:
> > 
> > Glad to see we haven't made any subs at half time... The lads have all
> > played so well, who would you sub...
> > 
> > Im off to shave my balls with our lasses leg razor, whilst blindfolded,
> > anything for a bit of excitement ... plus it'll be less painful to listening
> > to the 2nd half.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
> > Behalf Of Wayne
> > Sent: 25 March 2014 20:31
> > To: 'Richard Walker'; 'Andy Pyzer'
> > Cc: 'Leeds List'
> > Subject: Re: [LU] We want six...
> > 
> > 30 yds from the Bournemouth goal and we pass it all the way back to the
> > keeper Not fit to wear the shirt... Not fit to call themselves
> > footballers... It's a shame we cant afford to pay off MCD we aren't
> > improving with him in situ ... 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
> > Behalf Of Richard Walker
> > Sent: 25 March 2014 20:18
> > To: Andy Pyzer
> > Cc: Leeds List
> > Subject: Re: [LU] We want six...
> > 
> > They've just hit the post. Leeds fans singing "you're not fit to wear the
> > shirt"
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On 25 Mar 2014, at 20:14, Richard Walker  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 3-0 now inside the first half an hour. Oh dear, these are desperate times.
> > BMD - no sympathy, he picks Danny Pugh. 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >> 
> >>> On 25 Mar 2014, at 20:09, Andy Pyzer  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> was just trying to find a link at 12.10 a.m. but now you made me 
> >>> realise better go to bed. ffs
> >>> 
>  Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 20:05:32 +
>  From: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
>  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>  Subject: [LU] We want six...
>  
>  Looks Like we are in for another shocker
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Re: [LU] 1-2.

[Brendan Osborne]

Ross again!


> From: j...@jimmoran.co.uk
> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:48:06 +
> To: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] 0-2.
> 
> Passed round us for a few minutes. Simple finish. Leeds garbage. 
> --
> 
> > On 29 Mar 2014, at 15:32, Wayne  wrote:
> > 
> > 2nd verse , same as the first..
> > Or if you prefer, shite at home as usual.
> > From: Jim Moran 
> > Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 3:25 pm
> > To: Leeds List 
> > CC:
> > Subject: [LU] 0-1 smith own goal
> > 
> > Unchallenged cross flooring a corner. 
> > 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Interview

[Brendan Osborne]

Surely it’s potentially slanderous rather than libellous?
Spoken word rather than written word?

Either way, it seems to be fair comment on a matter of
public importance, therefore not slanderous!! 

 

MOT! 
> From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:20:34 +0800
> To: tedhea...@gmail.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Interview
> 
> Is it the Haigh comments? I'd think fair comment defence is appropriate! :)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 31 Mar 2014, at 19:14, "Ted"  wrote:
> > 
> > It's just been reported on the Guardian's site as "potentially libellous"!
> >  
> > http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/31/leeds-united-takeover-appeal-monday-massimo-cellino
> >  
> >  
> > "The Italian was quoted on Sunday night in a potentially libellous 
> > interview with White Leeds Radio, questioning the club's high wage bill and 
> > appearing unhappy with recent performances"
> > Ted H
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Re: [LU] A reasonable assessment of the situation

[Brendan Osborne]

I think that the FA's further assessment of this case is merely to ensure that 
this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
I may be being naive here, but I too don't think the FA can scupper Cellino's 
ownership, no matter what happens in June in the Italian courts.

Ossie

> From: j...@jimmoran.co.uk
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2014 10:46:30 +0100
> To: j...@boocock.net
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] A reasonable assessment of the situation
> 
> I can't see it. 
> 
> What would the FL do after he'd taken over? Force him to sell the club? Wind 
> the club up? Once he's in, he's in.
> 
> --
> 
> > On 6 Apr 2014, at 09:02, John Boocock  wrote:
> > 
> > From to Rob Atkinson's blog. A reasonable summary if you ask me.
> > 
> > http://roblufc.org/2014/04/06/football-league-need-to-be-wary-of-vendetta-accusations-by-rob-atkinson/
> > 
> > The point being that the FL is still in a mess and that this is not over 
> > until the final whistle is blown in the Italian Courts in June.  This 
> > accounts for Kerr's final statement that Cellino is, so to speak, innocent 
> > for the moment.
> > 
> > Could get messier still
> > 
> > Betty
> > 
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Re: [LU] Scousepool Fans

[Brendan McWilliams]

hi All, 

 

my football club blacklist contains the same clubs, but their positions are 
interchangeable, and at present it goes like:

 

1) Chelsea (by a considerable distance)

2) One of the Old Firm Teams (;->)

3) MUFC

4) Real Madrid

 

After yet another night of anti-football from a Mourinho XI vs Atlético last 
night, how anyone can wish that team well in any competition is beyond me. 

 

Due to 3) i've automatically wanted City to do well and ALSO Liverpool. 

 

Given that Liverpool are playing great football, Suarez is genuinely world 
class - like him or not - lots of young players, and let's not forget their 
wonderfully named manager 😃

 

So on Sunday, come on Liverpool!

 

BMW
 

> To: forzale...@aol.com; r.good...@bradford.ac.uk
> From: errand.fivef...@talk21.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:05:17 +0100
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Scousepool Fans
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> Verner
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Leeds List" 
> Sent: ‎23/‎04/‎2014 12:56
> To: "RM Goodair" 
> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Scousepool Fans
> 
> Agree 100% - fans full of self pity, self delusion, and enough chips on their 
> collective shoulders to open a branch of Harry Ramsdens.
> 
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Re: [LU] Stick or twist

[Brendan McWilliams]

Norris - he was injured this year apparently, but you're joking?

 

How many are out of contract next month? 

 

 

> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:36:41 +0200
> From: davidwool...@gmail.com
> To: tedhea...@gmail.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Stick or twist
> 
> Don't forget Norris. He's had a cracking season and one more year on his
> contract.
> 
> Plus 2 more years to go of finding South London clubs to loan Morison out
> to.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ted  wrote:
> 
> > Me, I'd keep...
> > McCormack
> > Byram
> > Smith
> > Murphy
> > Pearce
> > Mowatt
> > ...and maybe Austin as a squad player.
> >
> > The rest? Thanks but goodbye.
> >
> > Anyway, where's Cellino? Its a bit quiet. McD did say he was meeting with
> > him this week to discuss McD's future plan. I wonder if Cellino's plans
> > include him.
> >
> > Ted H
> > On 23 Apr 2014 11:30, "Richard Naef" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Awaiting retained list for first team, but quite a few out of contract
> > > anyway, so the list of players we want to keep (Mccormack) could well
> > match
> > > UKIP's list of actual policies (kill all foreigners) - I suppose Murphy
> > > might make it as well, but anyone else?
> > >
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Re: [LU] no one has mentioned this

[Brendan Osborne]

Probably Max Clifford is keeping it suppressed!!
Surprised that no one mentioned his link with us back in 2002!
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/aug/08/newsstory.sport6

Ossie

> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:02:58 +0100
> From: j...@boocock.net
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] no one has mentioned this
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/kuuh85k
> 
> Simon Lenighan accused of rape in Leeds
> 
> Betty
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Re: [LU] Non lu

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi, 

 

hmmm, there really is quite an extraordinary amount of hysteria about this 
latest episode from the new favourite pantomine villain that is Luis Suarez. 

 

What he has now done at least twice and looking like a third is something my 2 
year old is now growing out of in the nursery.  All this "he's not right is 
he", for goodness sake...  Clearly it's a reflex that gets the better of him 
when the red mist comes swirling down but why is it worse than some legendary 
assaults from e.g. Scholes, Shearer or Keane where the recipients have been 
booted in the face or had a career ending broken leg?  It's hardly cause for 
lining up ten clinical psychologists from Harley Street to give an opinion is 
it? Is it worse than gouging someone's EYE in rugby? 

 

As to his diving - alas rampant in the game - they're just as bad as any of the 
laughable "falls" of Ashley Young - if only he got taken to task for his. 

 

Quite why this is THE headline news, and why the english media needs a baddie 
every tournament is on the whole a bit sad to say the least. This is the same 
media who will have his face all over the place for the next SUPER DUPER S*Y 
SUNDAY BETTER THAN THE LAST ONE etc etc. Then the muppet journalists hoping for 
his execution now like he ate live new born babies will wait a month or two 
then trot out the usual "redemption" articles.

 

There are two outcomes: he'll get suspended for 1 match for the unseen mild 
head butt, or they'll grow a pair and ban him for a significant number of games 
for the bite. End of etc, can we please stop with the witch hunt. How about a 
witchhunt on something significant like why Cameron managed to create a 
scenario whereby the Hacking trial could be declared null and void without a 
re-trial. 

 

Anyhow, rant over, it was more about the media than Suarez behaving worse than 
my 2 year old i really have become my Dad, shouting at the TV and 
everything. :->

 

BMW
 

> From: edmorr...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:22:36 +0100
> To: ni...@mindbrix.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Non lu
> 
> 
> > On 25 Jun 2014, at 09:59, Nigel Barber  wrote:
> > 
> > Polite players win nothing.
> 
> As opposed to biting, diving racially abusive players, who win so much. Like 
> the Dutch Cup, the English League Cup, and... Er...
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Re: [LU] World Cup

[Brendan McWilliams]

If you were English then of course the Scotland match would have been 
enjoyable, not to mention the whalloping the Dutch got and the 4-1. 

 

Otherwise my memories of that tournament were low scoring in general and the 
knockout stages being absolutely dire.

 

BMW
 

> Subject: Re: [LU] World Cup
> From: m...@leeds-united.net
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 02:00:56 +0200
> CC: brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> To: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> 
> I was there for England v holland. Don't go to many England games but can't 
> seethe current/ immediate future England surpassing that day!!
> 
> I was on a plane with Scottish mate for eng v sco. Best way to experience it. 
> No idea until we landed. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 30 Jun 2014, at 01:24, Ian Murray  wrote:
> > 
> > What about England v Scotland?
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On 30 Jun 2014, at 4:20, "Brendan"  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Euro 96??? That tournament on the whole was an abomination - dire football 
> >> throughout unless you were an English fan for 1 game (Holland).
> >> 
> >> Germany the best team so far.
> >> 
> >> BMW
> >> 
> >> --- Original Message ---
> >> 
> >> From: "Richard Walker" 
> >> Sent: 29 June 2014 00:45
> >> To: m...@myray.com
> >> Cc: "leedslist" 
> >> Subject: Re: [LU] World Cup
> >> 
> >> Who won mate? I'm sat here arseholled listening to Jake Bugg. I can't work 
> >> our whether he's a shite Dylan tribute act or in fact he is the future. I 
> >> am impressed.
> >> 
> >>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 20:41, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I agree.
> >>> I am too tired to watch Columbia Uruguay. It'll end at almost two if it
> >>> goes to penalties. I tell myself that it'll be boring. But I sense that
> >>> it'll be very dirty and full of drama.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Dr Michael Benjamin,
> >>> Community Psychiatrist
> >>> ---
> >>> myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT
> >>> http://www.myRay.com
> >>> http://www.myRay.org
> >>> --
> >>> Mental Health:
> >>> http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com
> >>> 
> >>> Auditing || Quality Control
> >>> http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/
> >>> 
> >>> Blog:
> >>> http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On 28 June 2014 22:19, Ted  wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> How can anyone not be enjoying this world cup???
> >>>> Especially after the fantastic spectacle of Brazil v Chile?
> >>>> What a great game, it had everything. I'm knackered just watching it!
> >>>> 
> >>>> This tournament is probably best I've ever seen (at least since Euro 96) 
> >>>> -
> >>>> no negative play, only attacking fast footy. I'm loving it!
> >>>> 
> >>>> I think I've finally grown up - I'm not bothered who wins (I don't hate
> >>>> anyone anymore)...
> >>>> Brazil: the support is fantastic plus they sound like a pub side - Joe,
> >>>> Bernard, William, Fred and Hulk!
> >>>> Argies: I just love watching Messi.
> >>>> Germany: I love their football "model" so want them to prosper.
> >>>> (They're the teams we're supposed to dislike)
> >>>> As for the rest - some great attacking teams. Holland are my tip - after
> >>>> they tore Spain apart.
> >>>> 
> >>>> As a nation, we're miles off. I agree with someone else's point - as long
> >>>> as Sky pump millions into the Premier League we won't see young English
> >>>> players coming thru as foreign players will come for the money.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I guess I'll come down to reality with a bump come early August when I
> >>>> travel to Millwall or see our first home game! Here's hoping I'm wrong 
> >>>> and
> >>>> Hockawho is the amswer. I'm the eternal optimist where Leeds is concerned
> >>&

Re: [LU] Squad arrived in Italy

[Brendan McWilliams]

Well, look on the bright side - almost all the rubbish that we all wanted rid 
from last season are now gone with even Cameron Stewart now signing for 
Ipswich, and doubts about Paddy Kenny (have you seen the size of him!?).

 

If it's true that Fulham have offered 10m for McCormack, pff, that has to be 
accepted. Obviously the question remains as to what happens with that money, 
but 10m is unreal at this level and cannot be rejected. 

 

That said, without a influx of about 10 significant players in the next 2 weeks 
it looks very bad indeed.

 

BMW
 

> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:06:40 +0200
> From: davidwool...@gmail.com
> To: j...@jimmoran.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Squad arrived in Italy
> 
> Where's that young Irish lad we bought from Glenavon at the end of last
> season and who we aere having a friendly for as part of the deal?
> 
> Astonishing that Zac Thompson still hangs on in there without ever
> seriously threatening the first team for getting on 5 years now. He has the
> survivial skills of a cockroach in the nuclear war. Whatever drama and cuts
> befall us, he's always just cheap enough, and notionally versatile
> enough as a player not to be worth culling.
> 
> 
  
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Re: [LU] ...and so it begins

[Brendan McWilliams]

At present a growing sense of nervousness but note that:

 

1) when I/we were doing our lists at the end of last season and who you'd 
happily see never play again, they are now almost all gone. Can't fault him 
there. 

 

2) Transfers are only permitted from July 1st, the transfer embargo was only 
lifted yesterday, and we've not had great success with free transfers in the 
past have we? 

 

3) I've no doubt he's lined up a string of Italians from Serie B etc - let's 
hope they adapt quickly, which is not usually the case i'm afraid at any level 
(Vialli, Zola apart) in the english league system for some reason.

 

4) Ross was ALWAYS going to go, and frankly anything over 5m (not to mention 
the much mentioned 10m from Fulham) cannot be rejected by a Championship club.  
Note also he'd a great season last year, but the previous three were not so 
dazzling. 

 

5) Paddy Kenny. The #17 story is obviously nonsense, and i too also think that 
it's more to do with the fact that he barely played the last 4 months last 
season, is getting on and is about twice the width I am. 

 

6) The club was losing 1m a month, and the fair play rules mean that you can't 
throw (a lot) of money at it? 

 

7) Buyback of ER is surely a maze of complications due to you know who. 

 

However, there's no getting away from the fact that it's going to end badly 
with Hockaday - 4 games max. 

 

But could it be that, maybe just maybe, it works out? Must we always go with 
the usual recyling of managers that at this level that brings nothing? OK, here 
I'm being wildly optimistic. 

 

BMW

 

SP LUFC and Twitter is particularly entertaining at the moment. Who was it that 
was anti Twitter once upon a time, moi?

 


 

> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:37:28 +0100
> From: phillshie...@hotmail.com
> To: m...@leeds-united.net
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] ...and so it begins
> 
> Exactly but that isn't as newsworthy. Think the media have decided what tack 
> to take on any stories about our new owner.
> 
> On Jul 3, 2014 9:21 AM, Matt Anderson  wrote:
> Probably axed paddy kenny because he is now fatter than me rather than 
> anything to do with numbers
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 3 Jul 2014, at 10:05, Ian Murray  wrote:
> >
> > Wow. I'm really excited.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 3 Jul 2014, at 16:00, "Roy Blackwell"  wrote:
> >>
> >> First new signing made
> >> Stuart Taylor on 1 year contract
> >>> On 3 Jul 2014 08:58,  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was 17 in 1970 so that's me out too then. Wouldn't want to jinx the
> >>> club when they are on a roll.
> >>>
> >>> And what about this?
> >>>
> >>> https://audioboo.fm/boos/2295990-gfh-capital-on-leeds-united-ex-md-davi
> >>> d-haigh
> >>>
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Re: [LU] Cellino

[Brendan Osborne]

I'm firmly in the "Give them the support until they f*ck up" camp.
 
At least we have something different now eh? When was the last time we were 
linked with so many players? Or an owner was willing to spend some money 
acquiring players? Ross has been sold, yes, but we got an unreal price for him 
and it seems as if this money is being spent on assembling a teamwho knows 
how good (or bad) they'll be??
 
I'm cautiously optimistic - I'm going to at least give them half a dozen games 
to see how they get on before I make my mind up on this new regieme.
 
MOT.
 
> From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> To: phillshie...@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 21:35:18 +0800
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino
> 
> I will never give Hockaday my support. He is simply not fit to be associated 
> with the club as manager or coach or coach driver.
> 
> Don't see why we should put up with it myself.
> 
> I'll support the team but never this owner or coach, both of whom are fcking 
> disasters.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 18 Jul 2014, at 21:22, "phillshields"  wrote:
> > 
> > With you on this Dave. He seems to want to be here for the duration.
> > 
> > He has a proven record of managing a football club at a top level despite 
> > what some listers on here say.
> > 
> > I'm giving him and Hockaday along with new players my support.
> > 
> > MOT
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from Samsung Mobile
> > 
> >  Original message From: nat...@sky.com 
> > Date:18/07/2014  10:30  (GMT+00:00) To: leeds list 
> >  Subject: [LU] Cellino 
> > 
> > Not sure how much is just bluster and bullsh1t but he doesn't half talk a 
> > good fight. His enthusiasm seems boundless - IF (and I know if is a big IF) 
> > he can 'walk the walk like he talks the talk' we are in for fun and games 
> > and ultimately (hopefully quite soon) good times
> > 
> > This bit especially will endear him to fans - but the whole article is well 
> > worth a read
> > 
> > "And I won’t go to the city of Manchester for a mortgage. I won’t give them 
> > the money. I’d prefer to pay cash. Because I’m Leeds, Leeds, Leeds.”
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-the-town-has-a-new-sheriff-says-cellino-1-6736431
> > 
> > 
> > I am really starting to get the buzz for the new season now
> > 
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Re: [LU] Fixtures

[Brendan McWilliams]

Hi all, 

 

I still think that Cellino has done everything that i would have liked a new 
owner to have done apart from two things:

 

1) the Hock

2) an influx of players not used to the english 2nd tier.

3) get the finances under control 

 

The zillions of mails on The Hock are largely merited but miss one thing - he's 
got about 3 or 4 games to make it or he's out. End of. I reckon Zola will be 
installed before the end of Sept. 

 

For the new players, i think it was Dave Nattan that pointed out that the 
starting XI will still largely be half to two thirds of those from last 
season...and in any case, Kebe & Stewart were used to the Championship and look 
how well that went.  

 

Regards,

 

BMW
 

> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:36:28 +0100
> From: simon.h...@york.ac.uk
> To: markpill...@gmail.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fixtures
> 
> I use the Sky calendar builder. This one gets updated when games are moved
> for TV.
> 
> http://www1.skysports.com/calendars
> 
> 
> On 29 July 2014 08:31, Mark Pilling  wrote:
> 
> > Hi gang
> >
> > Sorry I presumably missed this Anyone got a link to a csv or ical for
> > putting our fixtures in Google calendar or outlook?
> >
> > Way I look at it (and I know, I don't get to go and watch) is I wish
> > Hockaday well. He will have to be really good to survive long. His track
> > record means no leeway for him, The fans, press and players will all turn
> > on him the second things don't go well. So, hope it happens and he
> > survives!
> >
> > Would be lovely to think that all these young Italians mean we will be
> > playing cultured classy football and mesmerising the opposition with
> > technically polished flair. I fear we're more likely to damage their games
> > and knock that out of them by forcing thwm into an alien kick rush and
> > hope.
> >
> > Anyway, best of luck everyone.
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[LU] One club worse than ours in the league?

[Brendan McWilliams]

hi, 

 

as crazy as LUFC is at the moment etc etc and the massive doubts we all have 
about The Hock etc, could it be that we'll have at least Blackpool below us in 
the league this year? 

 

Check out the following letter and the ownership shennigans going on there, 
it's very Captain Birdseye indeed:

 

http://www.blackpoolfc.co.uk/news/article/open-letter-to-valeri-belokon-and-kaspars-varpins-177.aspx

 

BMW
  
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Re: [LU] Fixtures

[Brendan McWilliams]

oops, 3) actually he IS getting under control - if we believe the press at 
least. 
 

> From: brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:16:40 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] Fixtures
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> 
> 
> I still think that Cellino has done everything that i would have liked a new 
> owner to have done apart from two things:
> 
> 
> 
> 1) the Hock
> 
> 2) an influx of players not used to the english 2nd tier.
> 
> 3) get the finances under control 
> 
> 
> 
> The zillions of mails on The Hock are largely merited but miss one thing - 
> he's got about 3 or 4 games to make it or he's out. End of. I reckon Zola 
> will be installed before the end of Sept. 
> 
> 
> 
> For the new players, i think it was Dave Nattan that pointed out that the 
> starting XI will still largely be half to two thirds of those from last 
> season...and in any case, Kebe & Stewart were used to the Championship and 
> look how well that went. 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> BMW
> 
> 
> > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:36:28 +0100
> > From: simon.h...@york.ac.uk
> > To: markpill...@gmail.com
> > CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Fixtures
> > 
> > I use the Sky calendar builder. This one gets updated when games are moved
> > for TV.
> > 
> > http://www1.skysports.com/calendars
> > 
> > 
> > On 29 July 2014 08:31, Mark Pilling  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi gang
> > >
> > > Sorry I presumably missed this Anyone got a link to a csv or ical for
> > > putting our fixtures in Google calendar or outlook?
> > >
> > > Way I look at it (and I know, I don't get to go and watch) is I wish
> > > Hockaday well. He will have to be really good to survive long. His track
> > > record means no leeway for him, The fans, press and players will all turn
> > > on him the second things don't go well. So, hope it happens and he
> > > survives!
> > >
> > > Would be lovely to think that all these young Italians mean we will be
> > > playing cultured classy football and mesmerising the opposition with
> > > technically polished flair. I fear we're more likely to damage their games
> > > and knock that out of them by forcing thwm into an alien kick rush and
> > > hope.
> > >
> > > Anyway, best of luck everyone.
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Re: [LU] 2 1 victory

[Brendan McWilliams]

I'm only moderately concerned:

 

- with the exception of McCormack we've kept the "good" players and binned out 
the dross entirely (except maybe Kenny & Warnock and i too hold some belief 
that Morison may come good)

 - if we have a bad start it'll be short, Cellino will simply boot him out 
after 3 or 4 games. 

 

On a different note, is Twitter killing this list? 
 

> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:19:59 +0300
> To: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] 2 1 victory
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Re: [LU] Tactical Genius quote no 1

[Brendan McWilliams]

Dave - couldn't agree more. 
 

> From: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:57:12 +0100
> Subject: Re: [LU] Tactical Genius quote no 1
> 
> as usual, clear, concise grown up analysis from Dave. Not much anyone can
> argue with ;)
> 
> Nattan IN!
> 
> > To be fair about 90% of what players and managers say can be put into this
> > category The anti Hock stuff made me smile yesterday when some idiot on
> > waccoe posted that Bryam had injured his hamstring and would be out for
> SNIP 
> > For me Hockaday is an odd choice but whoever we got would have a limited
> > shelf life and who knows he may be decent. He has spent 40years in the
> > game as a player and assistant backroom boy so he MUST surely know more
> > than us about the running of a football club and how to deal with players
> 
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Re: [LU] Tactical Genius quote no 1

[Brendan McWilliams]

Surely a Dopiaza dish is unbeatable? 
 

> From: a...@andybrown.co.uk
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:35:28 +0100
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Tactical Genius quote no 1
> 
> Where can I try this? It sounds awful but I have to try it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 31 Jul 2014, at 13:03, Chris Briggs  wrote:
> > 
> > I'm with Ian on this, then again given some of the erm, how shall I put it, 
> > knuckle dragging types that have been known to inhabit the forum are you 
> > sure they just haven't poured jalfrezi sauce on a full English ;o)
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On 31 Jul 2014, at 12:43, "Ian Murray"  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Egg? What sourcery (or saucery) is this? 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On 31 Jul 2014, at 19:39, "Rick Duniec"  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> - Original Message - 
> >>> Pre-season is nigh finished - and not one thread about Curry Houses - we 
> >>> are
> >>> indeed doomed :)
> >>> 
> >>> The burning question on WACCOE is whether or not Jalfrezi should have egg 
> >>> in it, and if it does should it be scrambled or boiled.
> >>> (Jalfrezi has now become the UK's favorite Indian Curry).
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Re: [LU] BHA

[Brendan Osborne]

I think he should check the others too! Is apathy a virus?
 
 
Ossie :-)
 
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:40:20 +0100
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] BHA
> 
> I see the Hock is saying that a lot of the team have been suffering from a 
> virus from Phil Hay via twitter , may explain the really lacklustre 
> performance (or may just be a rubbish excuse)
> 
> No new injuries (Doukara out obviously) but there's been a virus in the camp. 
> Hockaday says half a dozen players were suffering v Brighton
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Losing again......Not any more!!

[Brendan Osborne]

OG 1-1
 
> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 17:29:29 +0300
> From: m...@myray.com
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> Subject: [LU] Losing again
> 
> 0-1
> Cooper dropped.
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[LU] Tumbleweed......

[Brendan Osborne]

I'm not too surprised that there is little reaction to Scumchesters' 
humiliation at the hands of the fake Dons last night - it's not easy for us to 
gloat in our position!
 
Shame to see that a certain Mr J Beckford has at last re-discovered his scoring 
boots (2 goals last night, admittedly against Crewe), and right before Notlob 
play us on Saturday toogr! Hopefully their extra time exploits last 
night have tired out the entire squad!
 
Fingers crossed that a positive result tonight will give the lads some 
confidence going into the weekend. 
 
We live in hope - MOT.
 
 
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Re: [LU] 3nil

[Brendan Osborne]

Berardi sent off - down to 10.
 
Oh, and a certain Mr L. Becchio has just scored for Rotherham - first league 
goal since New Years Day 2013.
 
MOT
 
 
Ossie
 
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> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:28:55 +0100
> To: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] 3nil
> 
> Doukara!
> 
> > On 20 Sep 2014, at 16:18, Ian Murray  wrote:
> > 
> > Antenucci!!! 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On 20 Sep 2014, at 22:21, "Roy Blackwell"  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Austin
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Re: [LU] What is it with MC and watermelons?

[Brendan McWilliams]

Even before a single game under his tutelage, may I be the first on the List to 
say "Milanic OUT!!!" ... :-> 

 

As for Massimo, in his defence that expression he used is very common - at 
least here in sunny España. 

 

BMW
 

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> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:07:22 +0800
> To: graham.longbot...@gmail.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] What is it with MC and watermelons?
> 
> That's what he said about Hockaday.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 24 Sep 2014, at 06:59, Graham Longbottom  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > ... And because he's a "very cool guy"
> > 
> > Cellino added: "His particularly qualities? He's good looking, what can I
> > tell you?"
> > Not exactly reassuring that he's been carefully chosen.
> > I hope it doesn't dampen the high expectations I have for Brentford game.
> > 
> > G
> > 
> >> On Tuesday, 23 September 2014, Alec McQueen  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cheers
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Re: [LU] never see it enough times...

[Brendan Osborne]

Never tire of seeing that one either.
 
My exact thoughts at the time were.I don't care what happens next, we gave 
them a shock and that's what matters!!
 
Couldn't believe it when we held out for the win. 
 
 
Ossie 
 
> From: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:22:55 +0100
> Subject: [LU] never see it enough times...
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29416099
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ttfn
> 
>  
> 
> Richard
> 

  
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Re: [LU] Bye bye Bellusci ?

[Brendan Osborne]

Didn't Suarez use the word negrito?
 
"I like him as a defender...but if he's a racist then he can do one" - agreed! 
 
Wasn't Cameron Jerome booked during the incident? 
 
 
Ossie
 
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:32:22 +0100
> From: n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bellusci ?
> 
> I like him as a defender...but if he's a racist then he can do one..

> .
> 
> The alleged word is understood to have been “negro”, although this has yet to 
> be
> confirmed. Negro is the term which led to the former Liverpool striker Luis
> Suárez receiving an eight-match ban and £40,000 fine after he abused 
> Manchester
> United’s Patrice Evra.
> 
>
> 


  
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Re: [LU] Blackpool

[Brendan Osborne]

3-0 Antenucci
 
Jeez Blackpool are poor.
 
> From: j...@jimmoran.co.uk
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:33:59 +
> To: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Blackpool
> 
> 2-0. Doulas
> 
> --
> 
> > On 8 Nov 2014, at 15:23, Richard Naef  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Gambling!  
> > 
> >> 
> >> How comes all these Leeds games are now available?
> > 
> > 
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Re: [LU] 2-0

[Brendan Osborne]

Same here - think our fitness is getting better as is our communication between 
keeper and defenders.
 
Clean sheet is looking good! How many bookings today?
 
 
Ossie
 
> From: j...@jimmoran.co.uk
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 16:45:48 +
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] 2-0
> 
> Watching on a live stream, we're playing pretty well, Derby not taking their 
> chances though, they just missed an open sitter.
> 
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Re: [LU] Adryan dive

[Brendan Osborne]

The Derby player was booked but (my impression from watching on tv was) the ref 
also spoke to Adryan about the way he was jumping about like a fish out of 
water.
 
Embarrassing indeed.
 
 
Ossie
 
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 15:44:05 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Adryan  dive
> 
> I like the lad and think he has something special about him but this is 
> shockinghttps://vine.co/v/On3vUw6WLp7
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[LU] 0-1

[Brendan Osborne]

Antenucchi made by Warnock (again)
 
Get in!!
 
 
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Re: [LU] 2-1

[Brendan Osborne]

Softest penalty I have ever seen awarded 2-1 Ipswich
 
We're playing some nice pacey football, crisp passing and movement. C'mon you 
Leeds
 
 
MOT
 

 
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 15:20:59 +
> From: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
> To: rhe...@hkis.edu.hk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org; arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] 0-1
> 
>There are links to Leeds every week at wiziwig.net
>The wiznet link on the wiziwig page always seems to be the most
>reliable.. Just make sure you have a pop up blocker running on your
>browser
> 
>On Sat, Dec 06, 2014 at 3:14 pm, Rob Heath <[1]rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
>wrote:
> 
>Anybody got a video link?
> 
>On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 11:12 PM, [broken-address] Nicholas Armit
><[2]arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>  Spoke too soon
>  Sent from my iPhone
>  > On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:10 AM, wayne callaghan
>  <[3]ws.callag...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>  >
>  > Just need to hold on for 80 mins now :)
>  >
>  > On Sat, Dec 06, 2014 at 3:05 pm, Brendan Osborne
>  > <[1][4]bosborn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>  > Antenucchi made by Warnock (again)
>  > Get in!!
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Re: [LU] Edgar Cani

[Brendan McWilliams]

What a relief to hear that he's not coming back! 

 

Twitter #lufc exploded in fury of course, with minimal mention of the fact that 
he hasn't played hardly in TWO YEARS, couldn't trap a bag of cement when he was 
playing and is now on the wrong side of 30.

 

As for Warnock, it's too bad that he's not seeing out the rest of the season 
but why would you give him a contract after last season? 
 

Can't fault Il Presidente on both counts, there is just that small matter of 
being 4th bottom only now... 

 

Betty - can't believe you went back down to Broken Britain ;-> 

 

BMW

 

> From: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:17:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [LU] Edgar Cani
> 
> 
> 
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Edgar Cani
> > From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:30:56 +
> > CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > To: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com
> > 
> > http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11715/9644529/transfer-centre-leeds-chase-catania-striker-edgar-cani-but-rule-out-luciano-becchio-return
> > 
> > Refreshing. 
> Refreshing indeed though the last line saying "He is the best coach we could 
> have at the moment" makes me wonder how long that moment will last.
> Still, no Becchio is please any way you look at it.
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[LU] 1-1

[Brendan Osborne]

Murphy. Get in. 
 
 
Ossie 
  
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Re: [LU] Lu: Appeal lost

[Brendan Osborne]

The most worrying bit...
 
"In addition, a further misconduct charge against Mr. Cellino and the 
Club for failing to supply the Italian Court judgment to The Football 
League when it first became available will be heard by a Football 
Disciplinary Commission in line with League regulations in due course"
 
Points deduction???
 
Relegation party anyone? Blue Monday indeed! Grr!
 
 
 
Ossie

 

> 
> The PCC’s judgment can be viewed in full here 
> 
> Read more at 
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Re: [LU] 1-0 Murphy

[Brendan Osborne]

SSN just showed the goal - Austin feeds Murphy on the right, he moves to about 
20 yards out and hits one with the outside of his left foot, curling away from 
the keeper and into the top corner - an absolute screamer!!
 
From: andypy...@hotmail.com
To: bosborn...@hotmail.com; j...@jimmoran.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: RE: [LU] 1-0 Murphy
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 00:27:46 +0400




BBC stats suggest the same. no link for me damn it...
 
> From: bosborn...@hotmail.com
> To: j...@jimmoran.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:26:38 +
> Subject: Re: [LU] 1-0 Murphy
> 
> Sky Sports News saying the same - they've just had one disallowed too! 
>  
> > From: j...@jimmoran.co.uk
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:24:21 +
> > To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > Subject: [LU] 1-0 Murphy
> > 
> > We're all over them according to Radio Leeds. 
> > 
> >  
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Re: [LU] 1-0 Murphy

[Brendan Osborne]

Sky Sports News saying the same - they've just had one disallowed too! 
 
> From: j...@jimmoran.co.uk
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:24:21 +
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> We're all over them according to Radio Leeds. 
> 
>  
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Re: [LU] i have a question

[Brendan Osborne]

Makes no difference to me,  however there may be some validity in the thinking 
that some of our Italians may be suffering more from Cellinogate than  the home 
grown talent perhaps .

MOT


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 Original message From: n...@6haroldplace.co.uk 
Date:21/01/2015  13:01  (GMT+00:00) To: 
leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: [LU] i have a question 

Does the nationality of the person in the white kit really make difference to
you...from some of the responses to last night's wonderful victory...it seems it
does.

The only thing that has ever mattered to me is the colour of the kit they're
wearing.


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Re: [LU] 1 - 1 last gamble

[Brendan Osborne]

GET IN 2-1 SHARP!
 
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:19:41 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
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> Subject: [LU] 1 - 1 last gamble
> 
> Sharp coming on for the( injured ) CookThen good bit of play and Antenucci 
> misses a sitter - puts over the bar. What has happened to him? Earlier he was 
> lethal - always ontargetThen Morsion with decent chence - still hope with 2 
> mins plus injury to godave
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