[LegacyUG] Calculated Dates [was Favorite Legacy Tip]

[Kirsten Bowman]

Sara:

I use "cal" (or actually "calc") all the time, and it's the recommended format 
in "Getting It Right."  That abbreviation tells me the date is derived from 
another record such as age at marriage, death, or in a census rather than being 
a known fact in and of itself.  I also add a note to remind me of the basis for 
the calculation.  I prefer "calc" because "cal" seems to indicate "calendar" to 
most people and can be confusing although it is the recommended abbreviation.

Kirsten

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip


Heather,

I certainly understand the nuances, but I have to admit that in eleven
years of genealogical research, I have never seen anyone use "cal."
Good idea though.  Am I just exchanging data with the wrong people?

Sara






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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[Cathy]

Hi Kirsten,

I guess it is confusing.
There is a setting in Options > Customise that sets whether the 
Source list name prints.

It usually only prints if you haven't entered a Title.
It's really just for your use.

Cathy

At 02:03 PM 21/08/2007, you wrote:


Hello Cathy:

That's very good to know.  From what you say and a couple of little
experiments of my own, I gather that the list sorts by one name but prints
another.  Seems a little confusing, but now that I know how it works I'll
have to think about how to make best use of it.  Thanks!

Kirsten

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Hi Kirsten,
You need to use the Source List Name to keep things together and
findable on the Master Source list.
It sorts (currently) only by Source List Name.
How you do it depends on how you think about sources. I do it by
type. Some people put location first so that all sources for a
particular State are found together.

Cathy




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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[Kirsten Bowman]

Hello Cathy:

That's very good to know.  From what you say and a couple of little
experiments of my own, I gather that the list sorts by one name but prints
another.  Seems a little confusing, but now that I know how it works I'll
have to think about how to make best use of it.  Thanks!

Kirsten

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting (for Gail)


Hi Kirsten,
You need to use the Source List Name to keep things together and
findable on the Master Source list.
It sorts (currently) only by Source List Name.
How you do it depends on how you think about sources. I do it by
type. Some people put location first so that all sources for a
particular State are found together.

Cathy




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[LegacyUG] Sourcing a directory

[Valeris Garton]

I have the following and I would like some help as to how to enter this
information with sources the correct way please:

Dublin Directory 1814
DYAS Robert tailer 22 Castle Street
DYAS George pharmacist Mill Street
DYAS Richard Warburg & Co druggist 26 Bridge Street

Dublin Directory 1848
CULLODEN Peter tanner Mill Street
DYAS John 13 Canal Street

Thanking you in advance

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Dublin, Wicklow &
Wexford 




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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting (for Gail)

[Cathy]

Hi Kirsten,
You need to use the Source List Name to keep things together and 
findable on the Master Source list.

It sorts (currently) only by Source List Name.
How you do it depends on how you think about sources. I do it by 
type. Some people put location first so that all sources for a 
particular State are found together.


Cathy

At 12:03 PM 21/08/2007, you wrote:


Hello Gail:

Your list was extremely informative.  Thanks for doing that tabulation.
Your breakdown appears to pretty closely follow Elizabeth Shown Mills'
recommendations.  Now, of course, it generates a few additional questions:

1)  Does a list of 800+ Master Sources become cumbersome to manage?  (Is it
difficult to find things?)
2)  Do you use Legacy's Source List Name field (short name) to cause like
items such as books, church or cemetery records to sort together on the
Master Source List or does that happen automatically because of the title of
the citation?  (I can see that census listings would sort together, but
church records and some of the others probably would not.)
3)  If you do use a "short name," how do you keep track of what you called
things?

Thanks again for your response; it's been very helpful.

Kirsten




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Re: [LegacyUG] how to set living indicator default to NO

[Cathy]

Options > Customise - Data Default tab
top of screen - Living Indicator Default

Cathy
At 06:38 AM 21/08/2007, you wrote:


How do i set the indicator to "NO" as you mentioned.  I also have a 
lot of people in my file without dates.  I tryed to do it using 
"tools" but it would not let me do it when there are no dates in the 
birth or death fields.



from marilyn




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Re: [LegacyUG] Tag Living

[aseddon.com]

Thanks C.G.,

Fast and very good. And I find people with spouses in the 1500's, even though I 
had run the "advance set living" tool yesterday.

Art Seddon

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Living

How about ...

Search -> Find

Individual - Living - Equal To - Yes

Create List

When the List comes up ... 

Options - Advanced Tagging - Everyone in Search List (with your tag number)

C.G. Ouimet 
Kingston, ON



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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting (for Gail)

[Kirsten Bowman]

Hello Gail:

Your list was extremely informative.  Thanks for doing that tabulation.
Your breakdown appears to pretty closely follow Elizabeth Shown Mills'
recommendations.  Now, of course, it generates a few additional questions:

1)  Does a list of 800+ Master Sources become cumbersome to manage?  (Is it
difficult to find things?)
2)  Do you use Legacy's Source List Name field (short name) to cause like
items such as books, church or cemetery records to sort together on the
Master Source List or does that happen automatically because of the title of
the citation?  (I can see that census listings would sort together, but
church records and some of the others probably would not.)
3)  If you do use a "short name," how do you keep track of what you called
things?

Thanks again for your response; it's been very helpful.

Kirsten

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Nestor
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting


Hi Kirsten, yours is another good and thought-provoking question.  I
decided to do a little survey of my sources.  In my database of almost
7,000 names, I have 857 Master Sources, grouped/lumped as follows:

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[Mitch Mackrory]

I use the same three terms as Heather for the same reasons.

I also use the exact same calculations and have done since the mid
1980s.  I was given them by a friend in the LDS church (I am LDS) and
I understood them to be the recommended method within the church.
They have always worked reasonably well for me although I have some
significant exceptions (see below).

Here is an excellent example (and some humor/humour) ...My great
grandfather married three times (and he wasn't LDS; he had them one at
a time :) ).  The last marriage was when he was 72 and his new wife
was only 21.  They subsequently produced my Half Granduncle (the same
generation as my grandfather and he is only 10 years older than me.
Nobody's system could have predicted that marriage or child's birth!

The moral of this story - don't get too hung up on estimates but they
can be useful if you have nothing better.

Cheers, Mitch

On 8/20/07, Sara Binkley Tarpley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heather,
>
> I certainly understand the nuances, but I have to admit that in eleven
> years of genealogical research, I have never seen anyone use "cal."
> Good idea though.  Am I just exchanging data with the wrong people?
>
> Sara
>
>
>
> On 8/20/07, Heather Stovold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > no, to me they are all different.
> >
> > cal - means I was given an age and a time  so he was 34 in 1834, so his
> > birth is: cal 1800
> >
> > abt - means that someone gave me an about time, like in an interview so
> > I ask someone when their parent was born and they say oh, it was about 1910,
> > then I put abt 1910.   I also use abt when I'm given a database with abt
> > used in it.(ok, I don't differentiate between ca and abt)
> >
> > est - means that I guessed the date based on the dates of other events, or
> > dates of the events of relatives.  (The whole, children are born about 2
> > years apart, women are about 21 when they marry, men are about 25.)  So
> > basically, I don't have any basis for the date except my guess based on the
> > norms of society (which vary...)
> >
> > each of these are entirely different to me.   I admit that many people
> > wouldn't understand the nuances, but to me, they are huge.
> >
> >
> > On 8/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Myrna...
> > > But... isn't "est." the same as writing "abt./about", "ca./circa"??? My
> > preference is "abt."
> > > Happy hunting...
> > > Pami
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] please forgive my HTML (was OT but pertinent IMHO)

[Yvonne Murgatroyd]

Richard.  I may be having a serious "Senior Moment" here, but I honestly dont 
know what you are getting at.

I have set everything in Outlook Express to be read/sent or whatever else it 
does to PLAIN TEXT, to hopefully keep eve4ryone everywhere happy (or it is 
supposed to)

If it doesnt well I am very sorry, and will once again unsubscribe, as I really 
dont know what else to do!


Yvonne 
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in the apple of your eye"
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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[Kirsten Bowman]

Ron:

Then I would classify you as a True Blue Lumper.  Thanks for the explanation
of your system; it does help to have these specifics to define general
terms.

Kirsten

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Kirsten,

Again, we are different to the USA in that we have censuses for England and
Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. I just have one Master Source called
"Census" and in the Details I have Country and year. Where I have Census
information from other countries I have a Master Source for that Country and
all the other information goes into the detail.

Ron Ferguson






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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding pictures problem

[Brian/Support]

Rich,

Legacy 4 was the current version from 6 mar 2002 to Nov 2003 when the 
last update for 4.0 was issued. These dates were taken from the revision 
history for Legacy 4.0 here: 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory4.asp


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RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

IMHO, some of the current types of photos, (jpg, bmp,
etc.) may not be recognized by the program L4 which
came out a few years ago. (date unknown).  I know that
in the past I had problems with new photos and old
programs. You should go to the L4 book for a 'list' of
what existed then, and the year.
Rich in LA CA
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Can someone please tell me what causes the Load
Picture window not to 
recognize certain photos in standard formats?  I use
4.0 Deluxe.  When I 
navigate to these photos in the Load Picture window,
the preview box stays 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding pictures problem

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

IMHO, some of the current types of photos, (jpg, bmp,
etc.) may not be recognized by the program L4 which
came out a few years ago. (date unknown).  I know that
in the past I had problems with new photos and old
programs. You should go to the L4 book for a 'list' of
what existed then, and the year.
Rich in LA CA
--- Jeff Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can someone please tell me what causes the Load
> Picture window not to 
> recognize certain photos in standard formats?  I use
> 4.0 Deluxe.  When I 
> navigate to these photos in the Load Picture window,
> the preview box stays 
> empty.  


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Re: [LegacyUG] county as a person

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I have added those types of things into my Chronology
lists. It is much easier to check/uncheck the many
lines, than to retype them again.
Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

IMHO, I do think that the current Gedcom program, has
not been changed, and probably won't, so Legacy 7 has
no control over it. When the committee that monitors
and edits/upgrades Gedcom does this, it will be
mentioned. L7 may create a tool to send data into an
'Event' type field, but Gedcom won't recognize what it
is. Years ago, I had info on that group (committee)
but I lost it. Wish I could be more positive. I
welcome comments from those who kow more of this.
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> Quoting Renee Zamora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> Does anyone know if exporting map coordinates into
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[Sara Binkley Tarpley]

Heather,

I certainly understand the nuances, but I have to admit that in eleven
years of genealogical research, I have never seen anyone use "cal."
Good idea though.  Am I just exchanging data with the wrong people?

Sara



On 8/20/07, Heather Stovold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no, to me they are all different.
>
> cal - means I was given an age and a time  so he was 34 in 1834, so his
> birth is: cal 1800
>
> abt - means that someone gave me an about time, like in an interview so
> I ask someone when their parent was born and they say oh, it was about 1910,
> then I put abt 1910.   I also use abt when I'm given a database with abt
> used in it.(ok, I don't differentiate between ca and abt)
>
> est - means that I guessed the date based on the dates of other events, or
> dates of the events of relatives.  (The whole, children are born about 2
> years apart, women are about 21 when they marry, men are about 25.)  So
> basically, I don't have any basis for the date except my guess based on the
> norms of society (which vary...)
>
> each of these are entirely different to me.   I admit that many people
> wouldn't understand the nuances, but to me, they are huge.
>
>
> On 8/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Myrna...
> > But... isn't "est." the same as writing "abt./about", "ca./circa"??? My
> preference is "abt."
> > Happy hunting...
> > Pami
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[Cathy]

Hi Paul,

I'm not Heather but you are right that different countries, different 
times and different families have different norms for marriage age 
(can I get another different in there? ;-))  You need to get a feel 
from your research.


In my family very few people marry in the 18th and 19th century 
before they are at least 18 and most over 21, many, including the 
women, well over. I was surprised by this. Perhaps it was economics 
that kept them single. This is in England and Australia.

21 and 25 as estimates work for me in this time period.

Cathy

At 09:52 AM 21/08/2007, you wrote:


Heather,

I am interested where you get the years that women marry at about 21 
and men at about 25.  Are you basing the past on today's 
estimates?  Men and women used to get married at much earlier ages 
than they do now. It was nothing for men and women to marry at 14 
and 16.  It was probably more common than not.


If you look into many lines of nobility, men were many times married 
as early or earlier than commoners.  At a time when over 50% of the 
population of the United States lived on farms, a woman was an old 
maid by the time she was 21 and if she wasn't married by then, she 
was less likely to be able to marry.


So, I don't use those ages in estimating dates, because they would 
be absolutely unrealistic in most of my data file.
I'm not bashing by any means.  I was just curious how you arrived at 
those ages of 21 and 25.  I am curious.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[Cathy]

Hi Heather,

That's precisely how I use them as well - though I rarely actually 
enter the Est dates but do it when I'm researching that person and if 
I make a To Do to find that birth or marriage I put the Estimated 
dates in the To do.


Cathy

At 09:04 AM 21/08/2007, you wrote:


no, to me they are all different.

cal - means I was given an age and a time  so he was 34 in 1834, 
so his birth is: cal 1800


abt - means that someone gave me an about time, like in an 
interview so I ask someone when their parent was born and they 
say oh, it was about 1910, then I put abt 1910.   I also use abt 
when I'm given a database with abt used in it.(ok, I don't 
differentiate between ca and abt)


est - means that I guessed the date based on the dates of other 
events, or dates of the events of relatives.  (The whole, children 
are born about 2 years apart, women are about 21 when they marry, 
men are about 25.)  So basically, I don't have any basis for the 
date except my guess based on the norms of society (which vary...)


each of these are entirely different to me.   I admit that many 
people wouldn't understand the nuances, but to me, they are huge.




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[LegacyUG] Estimated Dates

[Renee Zamora]

I thought I would share my source citation for estimated dates. Using "Est" 
and this source allows me to tag all individuals and periodically see if I 
can find any "real" dates for them. If I have recieved estimated dates from 
anyone else I put "about" on them in my database so I have no confusion on 
the issue.


Name: Abigal Harris
Given Name: Abigal
Surname: Harris
Sex: F
Birth: Est 1824

Source List Name: Estimated Dates
Type: Personal
Author: Renee M. Zamora
Title: This date was estimated by Renee M. Zamora using standard 
genealogical approximations.
Publication Facts: You may use standard genealogical approximations. From a 
marriage date, you can estimate birth dates. You can estimate that a man was 
married at age twenty-five and a woman at age twenty-one. You can also 
estimate that a first child was born one year after the parents' marriage 
and that subsequent children were born every two years after that. [A 
Member's Guide to Temple and Family History Work, pg. 12]
Source Citation Details: based on Chester Harris & Juliette Webster's 
marriage abt 1823


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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[Paul A.]

Heather,

 

I am interested where you get the years that women marry at about 21 and men
at about 25.  Are you basing the past on today's estimates?  Men and women
used to get married at much earlier ages than they do now. It was nothing
for men and women to marry at 14 and 16.  It was probably more common than
not.  

 

If you look into many lines of nobility, men were many times married as
early or earlier than commoners.  At a time when over 50% of the population
of the United States lived on farms, a woman was an old maid by the time she
was 21 and if she wasn't married by then, she was less likely to be able to
marry.   

 

So, I don't use those ages in estimating dates, because they would be
absolutely unrealistic in most of my data file.  

I'm not bashing by any means.  I was just curious how you arrived at those
ages of 21 and 25.  I am curious.

 

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Paul

 

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ungrateful we are, and how we labor to mar His gifts." ~ Gen. Robert E. Lee,
CSA

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no, to me they are all different.  

 

cal - means I was given an age and a time  so he was 34 in 1834, so his
birth is: cal 1800

 

abt - means that someone gave me an about time, like in an interview so
I ask someone when their parent was born and they say oh, it was about 1910,
then I put abt 1910.   I also use abt when I'm given a database with abt
used in it.(ok, I don't differentiate between ca and abt)  

 

est - means that I guessed the date based on the dates of other events, or
dates of the events of relatives.  (The whole, children are born about 2
years apart, women are about 21 when they marry, men are about 25.)  So
basically, I don't have any basis for the date except my guess based on the
norms of society (which vary...) 

 

each of these are entirely different to me.   I admit that many people
wouldn't understand the nuances, but to me, they are huge.

 

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Myrna...

But... isn't "est." the same as writing "abt./about", "ca./circa"??? My
preference is "abt."

Happy hunting...

Pami 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 76

[Anne Picketts]

Hi Bill

I've just repeated what I did earlier and added several chapters - i.e. various 
charts (for the object of this exercise) and yes - the preview is greyed out, 
but if 
you save it (I saved this current one as *.rtf)  and then go back to the saved 
copy 
there is no problem - at least I didn't have one.  I think it might be a case 
of 
patiently trying different ways of doing it...not sure.

There is probably a more refined way of getting a good result than what I did, 
but 
I could not generate the Error 76.  Sorry about that (not sure if sorry is the 
right 
word in this case ;-)  )  

Regards

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Re: [LegacyUG] abt / c / est - was: Favorite Legacy Tip

[Susie Zada]

Hi Pami,

I use abt (about) and est (estimated) quite different and I believe they mean 
very different things.

If I know that someone was x years old when they married and I have the year of 
marriage, then their year of birth is "abt"  because they may have been 
born early in the year, late in the year etc. etc.  Similarly if I have 
immigration or census details, I am reasonably confident of being close to the 
year of birth +/- a year or two - hence "abt".

For people that I don't have a specific year and age to calculate the "abt" 
date of birth, I'll use the c.25 years generation estimate and hence use "est" 
.  For example if my gg-grandmother was born abt 1820 and I have her 
parents names then their dates of birth with be "est" 1795 until such time as I 
find something that narrows it down more specifically.  If my gg-grandmother is 
the 5th or 10th child then her parents dates of birth might be "est" 1790 or 
"est" 1785.

To me, "abt" means I have some sort of reference year / age for the calculation,
"est" means I've done a "generational estimate".

Hope that makes sense - this process works great for me as can at least see 
what "generation" ancestors might belong to - particularly those with identical 
names.

Oh - "c" (circa) would equate to "abt" in my approach but from memory that 
wasn't a valid date prefix in Legacy (and some other genie programs) - I could 
be wrong on that or it may have changed, but I've stuck to "abt" for those type 
of dates.

Regards ... Susie Z


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Myrna...
But... isn't "est." the same as writing "abt./about", "ca./circa"??? My 
preference is "abt."
Happy hunting...
Pami 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[Heather Stovold]

no, to me they are all different.

cal - means I was given an age and a time  so he was 34 in 1834, so his
birth is: cal 1800

abt - means that someone gave me an about time, like in an interview so
I ask someone when their parent was born and they say oh, it was about 1910,
then I put abt 1910.   I also use abt when I'm given a database with abt
used in it.(ok, I don't differentiate between ca and abt)

est - means that I guessed the date based on the dates of other events, or
dates of the events of relatives.  (The whole, children are born about 2
years apart, women are about 21 when they marry, men are about 25.)  So
basically, I don't have any basis for the date except my guess based on the
norms of society (which vary...)

each of these are entirely different to me.   I admit that many people
wouldn't understand the nuances, but to me, they are huge.


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>
>  Myrna...
> But... isn't "est." the same as writing "abt./about", "ca./circa"??? My
> preference is "abt."
> Happy hunting...
> Pami
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[Sara Binkley Tarpley]

I'm not Myrna, and I don't use estimated dates; but I see them as
different from "about" or "circa."  For example, I use "about" when I
read in the 1850 census that John Jones was 25.  I enter his birth
date as "about 1825," knowing full well that in ten years he may
report his age as 33  and that his tombstone may show his birth year
as 1828.  [I enter the various other dates as Alt. Birth.]  If I were
to use an estimated date of birth, it might be in a case where I have
only a marriage date of 1840 and no other records.  If I used
estimates, I might estimate his date of birth as " est. 1819-1824."
[I am sure many of you are better at making estimates than I am.]

I also use "about" when a couple reports in the later censuses how
many years they have been married.  I know that if I eventually find a
marriage record, it may vary from what they reported.  I also know
that in another census they might show a different length of marriage.

Sara Binkley Tarpley

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>
> Myrna...
> But... isn't "est." the same as writing "abt./about", "ca./circa"??? My
> preference is "abt."
> Happy hunting...
> Pami
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Please truncate your mail

[Laurence E Stephenson]

Phil Hawkins wrote:

Kirstin Martinez wrote:
I use Thunderbird. Is there a way to automatically add the hyphen 
hyphen space in thunderbird?



Hi Kirsten
I use THunderbird also and according to it's website/forum thers is no 
way of adding a automatic signature file to email with Thunderbird.
There is some info on adding your own file at the end but I understood 
it to be similar to an attachment so other mail systems might not 
recognise it and view it as a virus


I just add in manually
Regards

Phil



Hi Phil,
Follows is my automatic signature in Thunderbird



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[TaylorResearch4u]

Myrna...
But... isn't "est." the same as writing "abt./about", "ca./circa"??? My  
preference is "abt."
Happy hunting...
Pami 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Living

[C.G. Ouimet]

How about ...
 
Search -> Find
 
Individual - Living - Equal To - Yes
 
Create List
 
When the List comes up ... 
 
Options - Advanced Tagging - Everyone in Search List (with your tag number)
 
...


C.G. Ouimet 
Kingston, ON 

 

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Tag Living


Is there a way to tag all living individuals?
 
Art Seddon
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Re: [LegacyUG] Please truncate your mail

[Phil Hawkins]

Ed Lawler wrote:

Thanks Ed for putting me straight
I had looked for that information a coouple of days ago and read the 
website wrong - obviously!

(Now let's see if it works 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Please truncate your mail

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Kirstin Martinez wrote:
I use Thunderbird. Is there a way to automatically add the hyphen hyphen 
space in thunderbird?



IGNORE my previous post!
I should have read all the mail before responding
Jumped in with both feet!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Please truncate your mail

[Phil Hawkins]

Kirstin Martinez wrote:
I use Thunderbird. Is there a way to automatically add the hyphen hyphen 
space in thunderbird?



Hi Kirsten
I use THunderbird also and according to it's website/forum thers is no 
way of adding a automatic signature file to email with Thunderbird.
There is some info on adding your own file at the end but I understood 
it to be similar to an attachment so other mail systems might not 
recognise it and view it as a virus


I just add in manually
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[LegacyUG] Tag Living

[aseddon.com]

Is there a way to tag all living individuals?

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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[ronald ferguson]

Kirsten,

Again, we are different to the USA in that we have censuses for England and 
Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. I just have one Master Source called 
"Census" and in the Details I have Country and year. Where I have Census 
information from other countries I have a Master Source for that Country and 
all the other information goes into the detail.


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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:40:34 -0700

Ron:

Actually I wouldn't consider your BMD example "lumping" at all, but simply
efficient use of the Master Source feature, since probably several GRO
details remain consistent from one record to the next.  In the US, however,
maintaining these records is a state or county function.  Lumping these
together under something like "Vitals" would lose details at the Master
Source level.  Those details would still be included in source citations
when producing most reports, of course, but it seems a Master Source
report/list would have little usefulness.

I'm not lobbying for either the lumping or splitting approach, but looking
for a middle ground that would produce a sort of bibliography from the
master source list without making the list unwieldy.

As a Lumper, how do you handle published books or census records?  Do you
group all books together under a single master source or list them
individually?  At what level do you split census citations?  (This is key
since they could feasibly all be lumped under Census, or they could be
divided at any one of many different levels.)

Kirsten


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Kirsten,

I do not really use the Sources for the purposes which you indicate but as 
a
lumper I would say that your supposition is not really accurate. For 
example

all BMD certificates in the UK are issued by the GRO (Government Record
Office) and I lump all these together under Certificates published by the
GRO. However, in the Details I specify the type of certificate and where
appropriate the date (although usually the latter would be in the event).

Similarly for newspapers the name of the newspaper and date, page etc would
go in the Detail.

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Re: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[Gail Nestor]

Hi Kirsten, yours is another good and thought-provoking question.  I
decided to do a little survey of my sources.  In my database of almost
7,000 names, I have 857 Master Sources, grouped/lumped as follows:

8 Bible - 1 source for each Bible found
104 Book - 1 source for each book
3 Booklet - 1 source for each booklet
101 Cemetery - 1 source for each cemetery or cemetery database
(Sometimes I have two sources for a cemetery - 1 for a stone I took a
photo of and 1 for a stone I found in a database.  Since the detail
vary, I create a separate source for each one.)
429 Census - 1 source for each county for each census year (I like to
see who lived in a county at a certain time.)
1 Certificate - a membership certificate of my own
1 Chart - family group chart
20 Church - 1 source for each church (records involve membership
rolls, baptismal certificates, etc.)
3 Directory - 1 source for each directory for an individual year
1 Funeral Home
62 County Sources - each one is different, may be an actual will book
or deed book, or a microfilm of one of these
2 Immigration
21 Marriage - each state's records as 1 source (sort of clumped by repository)
26 Military - hodgepodge of stuff from databases to DAR files to pension files
35 Newspaper - 1 source for each paper title
1 Personal Correspondence - used for all e-mails, phone calls, and letters
1 Social Security Death Index
17 Vital - typically birth or death; clumped by state (e.g.
Pennsylvania Vital Records, 1906-Present)
4 Website - used for websites of a surname; other web sites, like
Ancestry or FindaGrave are split by each database or cemetery

That being said, I not sure how many total citation details are
associated with these master sources.  I'm sure it's in the thousands.
 I can get a count for an individual source, but I don't know how to
obtain the total over all sources.

In my web-based software, TNG (The Next Generation of Genealogy
Sitebuilding), I can get sort of a Bibliography (Source List as Mills
would call it), but I have not yet figured out if it can be formatted
to look like a Source List.

It would be so nice if the user could select a master source which
would take them to a drop down box to create or select the appropriate
detail, and then attach that to one or more events or facts.  I just
hate having to copy and paste a cemetery source + detail to the name,
the birth, and the death facts.  Then, if I catch a mistake, I have to
correct each one separately.

Sorry for getting off on a tangent, but I spent lots and lots of time
thinking about sources!

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On 8/20/07, Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not experienced in the various options within Legacy for printing books
> so I may have a wrong impression, but wouldn't the Master Source List equate
> to a bibliography at the end of a book?  And if so, wouldn't "lumping" say,
> all bmd records under a Master Source perhaps called "Vitals," defeat that
> function?
>
> Also, couldn't the Master Source List serve as a checklist of the resources
> you had used in research?  In that case, wouldn't lumping say, various
> newspapers together under "Newspapers," also defeat that function?
>
> Or are there better ways to get a bibliography-type report rather than using
> the Master Source List?  (I know the "To-Do" list is supposed to be good for
> tracking research; unfortunately I'm just not very religious about using it
> that way.)
>
> Kirsten
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 76

[William Haines]

> Bill - I have just generated exactly what you did. 
> If you choose which ever way 
> you want your file - I chose *.pdf, and then click
> save, it all comes back to 
> 'normal' and those preview and print areas are not
> greyed out.

1 Every chapter I try, to add in the publishing
center, does the same thing, errot 76
2  The only setting that will work is screen/printer.
The rest have the preview greyed out, also the printer
showing the pages being formed does not show either.
3 If I go to reports and click on Descendant narrative
everything works as it should. It's just the
publishing center that gives me trouble.
4 Anne if you can duplicate this, then there must be a
conflict with Legacy and Vista. I never had this
problem with XP.

> Vista is fine - we just have to except that it
> behaves differently and find a way 
> around those behavourial problems.

Anne, I have found that Vista requires a lot more
finger strokes to get the same thing done then in XP.
If I thought I could install XP on this machine and
have it work as good as my other machine, I would do
it in a heart beat. I still have the XP installation
disks from my Gateway but I don't think it would work
unless I could leave Vista on the disk.

Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it.

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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[ronald ferguson]

Jack,

Thank you. You are, of course, correct and it was a sloppy example to give. 
I obtain my certificates from the GRO hence that is generally the repository 
which I use rather than the local office at which the event was first 
registered.


The point I was making still remains valid, that is, even when lumping the 
Detail section of the Source can be used to contain the individual 
information relating to a specific event.


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From: "Jack Earnshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:17:43 +0100

Ron

I normally agree 100% with your comments and assistance, but in this case
you are slightly incorrect.

ALL certificates are NOT issued by the GRO. Pre 1983 this is how it was -
not totally sure how the post 1984 computerised system operates. When a
birth or death event occurred the "informant" registered that with a local
registrar. At the end of each quarter the registrar sent a copy to the GRO.
It was therefore possible for an error to be made in the transcription that
went to the GRO. Register office marriages were dealt with similarly -
except that the "informant" was the registrar who performed the marriage. 
In

C of E marriages there were three different certificates - the one held by
the church, the one sent to the registrar and the one that eventually found
its way to the GRO.

It is important to recognise that these were different documents - that
should be the same, but sometimes differed.

If you get a certificate from the GRO it will normally be a photocopy of
entry they have onto a modern blank certificate. If that isn't clear enough
to copy they send you a newly written certificate - fraught with problems 
as

it may introduce new errors into what was already a transcription.

You may also buy a certificate from the local registrar. In most cases this
is also a modern transcription of the original entry, but a few register
offices are now using the same photocopying technique as the GRO.

Lastly, for marriages, you can also obtain a copy of the church register - 
a

lot cheaper of course as it need only cost the price of a photocopy.

But the main point I am making is that there are up to 3 different sources
for a single certificate - GRO, Local registrar, church (marriages only).
And, most importantly, the three can have different information on them. 
The
number of sources in some ways can be 5 - transcript of GRO entry, 
photocopy

of GRO entry, transcript of local entry, photocopy of local entry, copy of
church marriage entry.

I have two specific examples
- GRO sent me a death certificate that was newly written. The informant was
Mary REW. It was over 12 months later that I discovered that this had been
rewritten wrongly and that her name was ROW.

- my gt grandfather (Joseph Henry THORNE) married twice. I obtained a copy
of the GRO certificate for his 2nd marriage and found that he was also one
of the witnesses! When I looked at the parish church copy it had a 
different

name for the witness (his son William Henry THORNE).

I happen to use the "lumper" method, but would differentiate between these 
3

distinct sources of the information. I believe that, strictly, the local
registrar's information is the true master and that the GRO is a secondary
source.

Jack





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: 20 August 2007 19:28
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting


Kirsten,

I do not really use the Sources for the purposes which you indicate but as 
a


lumper I would say that your supposition is not really accurate. For 
example


all BMD certificates in the UK are issued by the GRO (Government Record
Office) and I lump all these together under Certificates published by the
GRO. However, in the Details I specify the type of certificate and where
appropriate the date (although usually the latter would be in the event).

Similarly for newspapers the name of the newspaper and date, page etc would
go in the Detail.

Ron Ferguson



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[LegacyUG] Re: Chronology Report issues

[Leon Chapman]

Ok, I fixed it.
I delete the file:   Chron.usr

Thanks.

On 8/20/07, Leon Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> I am having problems with Chronology report with date errors.
>
> I am using Legacy 6.0.0.155, the latest version and have Windows XP, SP2.
>
> When I select the Chronology tab for a given person, it works fine.
> When I then select Report, I get a date error window message that says:
>
> =
> Unrecognized Date
>   -99-99
> Accept & continue
> Accept or turn off Date Validation
> ==
>
> Can anyone repeat this??
> --
> Leon Chapman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -
>


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[LegacyUG] Chronology Report issues

[Leon Chapman]

Hi folks!

I am having problems with Chronology report with date errors.

I am using Legacy 6.0.0.155, the latest version and have Windows XP, SP2.

When I select the Chronology tab for a given person, it works fine.
When I then select Report, I get a date error window message that says:

=
Unrecognized Date
   -99-99
Accept & continue
Accept or turn off Date Validation
==

Can anyone repeat this??
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[marilyn cebrowski]

OOPs,  I found it, needed to re-read the email, DUH !! sorry



from marilyn






From: "Renee Zamora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:51:37 -0600

I also like to set the Living Indicator default to NO. This will set 
everyone I enter in my database as deceased automatically.  Since I deal 
with more dead people than alive it is easier for me to remember to change 
the living status to "Living" than to remember to change it to deceased. I 
just hate it when you have someone living in the 1500s without dates and 
they show up as living when you upload them to Rootsweb. Changing this 
option has been a life saver for me.


It's on the Options > Customise - Data Defaults

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Re: [LegacyUG] how to set living indicator default to NO

[marilyn cebrowski]

How do i set the indicator to "NO" as you mentioned.  I also have a lot of 
people in my file without dates.  I tryed to do it using "tools" but it 
would not let me do it when there are no dates in the birth or death fields.



from marilyn






From: "Renee Zamora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:51:37 -0600

I also like to set the Living Indicator default to NO. This will set 
everyone I enter in my database as deceased automatically.  Since I deal 
with more dead people than alive it is easier for me to remember to change 
the living status to "Living" than to remember to change it to deceased. I 
just hate it when you have someone living in the 1500s without dates and 
they show up as living when you upload them to Rootsweb. Changing this 
option has been a life saver for me.


It's on the Options > Customise - Data Defaults

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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding pictures problem

[Susan Daily]

Jeff,
I did a search in Help for "TIF" and came up with this possibility:
"Legacy recognizes all TIFFs, except those employing LZW compression,
which should be avoided."

Not sure how you can tell which is which. Hope this helps. (There are
more TIF items in Help which I did not read.)
Susan

On 8/20/07, Jeff Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can someone please tell me what causes the Load Picture window not to
> recognize certain photos in standard formats?  I use 4.0 Deluxe.  When I
> navigate to these photos in the Load Picture window, the preview box stays
> empty.  If I click "OK" anyway, the Display Picture window is empty, too,
> and the Picture Gallery adds a blank photo.  Slow loading is not the
> problem; they are not loading at all.
>
>A specific example.  I have a folder of land deed scans on my hard
> drive.  My non-Legacy image viewers can display every scan just fine.  But
> the Load Picture window only recognizes about half of them, even after I
> copy them into my Legacy Pictures folder.  All of these scans are the same
> format (tif), and all were originally copied from microfilm with the same
> machine at the same time.  All are under 1 MB in size, and file size is not
> the determining factor between what Legacy loads and what it doesn't.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Adding pictures problem

[Sherry/Support]

Jeff,

It sounds like you have TIF files with LZW compression. Legacy v4 won't
recognize those (patent issues) but v6 will.

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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Adding pictures problem

Can someone please tell me what causes the Load Picture window not to 
recognize certain photos in standard formats?  I use 4.0 Deluxe.  When I 
navigate to these photos in the Load Picture window, the preview box stays 
empty.  If I click "OK" anyway, the Display Picture window is empty, too, 
and the Picture Gallery adds a blank photo.  Slow loading is not the 
problem; they are not loading at all.

A specific example.  I have a folder of land deed scans on my hard 
drive.  My non-Legacy image viewers can display every scan just fine.  But 
the Load Picture window only recognizes about half of them, even after I 
copy them into my Legacy Pictures folder.  All of these scans are the same 
format (tif), and all were originally copied from microfilm with the same 
machine at the same time.  All are under 1 MB in size, and file size is not 
the determining factor between what Legacy loads and what it doesn't.

I've successfully added many, many pictures, but what am I missing here?

Thank you.

Jeff 




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[LegacyUG] Adding pictures problem

[Jeff Golden]

Can someone please tell me what causes the Load Picture window not to 
recognize certain photos in standard formats?  I use 4.0 Deluxe.  When I 
navigate to these photos in the Load Picture window, the preview box stays 
empty.  If I click "OK" anyway, the Display Picture window is empty, too, 
and the Picture Gallery adds a blank photo.  Slow loading is not the 
problem; they are not loading at all.

A specific example.  I have a folder of land deed scans on my hard 
drive.  My non-Legacy image viewers can display every scan just fine.  But 
the Load Picture window only recognizes about half of them, even after I 
copy them into my Legacy Pictures folder.  All of these scans are the same 
format (tif), and all were originally copied from microfilm with the same 
machine at the same time.  All are under 1 MB in size, and file size is not 
the determining factor between what Legacy loads and what it doesn't.

I've successfully added many, many pictures, but what am I missing here? 
Thank you.

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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[Kirsten Bowman]

Ron:

Actually I wouldn't consider your BMD example "lumping" at all, but simply
efficient use of the Master Source feature, since probably several GRO
details remain consistent from one record to the next.  In the US, however,
maintaining these records is a state or county function.  Lumping these
together under something like "Vitals" would lose details at the Master
Source level.  Those details would still be included in source citations
when producing most reports, of course, but it seems a Master Source
report/list would have little usefulness.

I'm not lobbying for either the lumping or splitting approach, but looking
for a middle ground that would produce a sort of bibliography from the
master source list without making the list unwieldy.

As a Lumper, how do you handle published books or census records?  Do you
group all books together under a single master source or list them
individually?  At what level do you split census citations?  (This is key
since they could feasibly all be lumped under Census, or they could be
divided at any one of many different levels.)

Kirsten


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting



Kirsten,

I do not really use the Sources for the purposes which you indicate but as a
lumper I would say that your supposition is not really accurate. For example
all BMD certificates in the UK are issued by the GRO (Government Record
Office) and I lump all these together under Certificates published by the
GRO. However, in the Details I specify the type of certificate and where
appropriate the date (although usually the latter would be in the event).

Similarly for newspapers the name of the newspaper and date, page etc would
go in the Detail.

Ron Ferguson







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Re: [LegacyUG] Please truncate your mail

[Ed Lawler]

Kirsten,

You can add a signature without using an extension. Use the following steps:

1. Create a text file to contain your signature in an appropriate place 
("My Documents", etc.).


2. In the signature file, add "-- " on a line by itself as the *first* 
line. Add any other lines that you want to appear in the signature. 
There used to be an informal convention that sigs be no more than four 
lines (but that was in the times of the 300 baud teletype 
printer/terminals). I don't think anyone would complain if it were 
longer than four lines now, but, people being people, you never can 
tell. From my own personal opinion, though, please refrain from 
including political or religious proclamations.


3. In Thunderbird:
   Select Tools -> Account Settings
   Select the appropriate mail account. This is the title line for the 
account, the one that contains the account name, usually just above the 
line that says "Server Settings". (If you have more than one mail 
account, you can have different signatures for each).

   Check the "Add this signature box" and select "Choose".
   Navigate to the appropriate signature file.
   Select the file and then "Open".
   Select "OK".

That's it. Thunderbird will now use that signature for all outgoing 
email for that particular account. As long as you don't change the name 
of the sig file, you won't have to touch Thunderbird again. If you ever 
want to change the signature, you only have to change the contents of 
the signature file.


Ed Lawler


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Kirstin Martinez wrote:
I use Thunderbird. Is there a way to automatically add the hyphen hyphen 
space in thunderbird?


There is an add on for Thunderbird called Signature which can be installed from 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/578.


Just create a custom signature with the hyphens inserted as the first line.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Please truncate your mail

[Wendy Howard]

"I use Thunderbird. Is there a way to automatically add the hyphen 
hyphen space in thunderbird?"


I don't know about "automatically", but what I do is keep a draft email 
(subject: signatures) in the Templates folder with the various 
signatures I use at times, along with some URLs that I use almost every 
day.  In it, I include the "hyphen hyphen space" line in the signatures 
where I want it to appear.  When I need that signature or URL, I go to 
that template email (which is open already 'cos I use it so much) and 
copy & paste the required lines.


I keep the draft email in the Templates folder rather than the Drafts 
folder 'cos it's harder to accidentally delete it there (especially with 
the changes that came with the new update recently).


Thunderbird has excellent support, so if you want to pursue this 
further, I suggest going to their forums and asking about it there.  
I've always gotten good help there when I've asked for assistance.  :-)


Kind Regards,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Please truncate your mail

[Gene Young]

Kirstin Martinez wrote:
I use Thunderbird. Is there a way to automatically add the hyphen hyphen 
space in thunderbird?


There is an add on for Thunderbird called Signature which can be installed from 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/578.


Just create a custom signature with the hyphens inserted as the first line.


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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[Jack Earnshaw]

Ron

I normally agree 100% with your comments and assistance, but in this case
you are slightly incorrect.

ALL certificates are NOT issued by the GRO. Pre 1983 this is how it was -
not totally sure how the post 1984 computerised system operates. When a
birth or death event occurred the "informant" registered that with a local
registrar. At the end of each quarter the registrar sent a copy to the GRO.
It was therefore possible for an error to be made in the transcription that
went to the GRO. Register office marriages were dealt with similarly -
except that the "informant" was the registrar who performed the marriage. In
C of E marriages there were three different certificates - the one held by
the church, the one sent to the registrar and the one that eventually found
its way to the GRO.

It is important to recognise that these were different documents - that
should be the same, but sometimes differed.

If you get a certificate from the GRO it will normally be a photocopy of
entry they have onto a modern blank certificate. If that isn't clear enough
to copy they send you a newly written certificate - fraught with problems as
it may introduce new errors into what was already a transcription.

You may also buy a certificate from the local registrar. In most cases this
is also a modern transcription of the original entry, but a few register
offices are now using the same photocopying technique as the GRO.

Lastly, for marriages, you can also obtain a copy of the church register - a
lot cheaper of course as it need only cost the price of a photocopy.

But the main point I am making is that there are up to 3 different sources
for a single certificate - GRO, Local registrar, church (marriages only).
And, most importantly, the three can have different information on them. The
number of sources in some ways can be 5 - transcript of GRO entry, photocopy
of GRO entry, transcript of local entry, photocopy of local entry, copy of
church marriage entry.

I have two specific examples
- GRO sent me a death certificate that was newly written. The informant was
Mary REW. It was over 12 months later that I discovered that this had been
rewritten wrongly and that her name was ROW.

- my gt grandfather (Joseph Henry THORNE) married twice. I obtained a copy
of the GRO certificate for his 2nd marriage and found that he was also one
of the witnesses! When I looked at the parish church copy it had a different
name for the witness (his son William Henry THORNE).

I happen to use the "lumper" method, but would differentiate between these 3
distinct sources of the information. I believe that, strictly, the local
registrar's information is the true master and that the GRO is a secondary
source.

Jack
 




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ferguson
Sent: 20 August 2007 19:28
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting


Kirsten,

I do not really use the Sources for the purposes which you indicate but as a

lumper I would say that your supposition is not really accurate. For example

all BMD certificates in the UK are issued by the GRO (Government Record 
Office) and I lump all these together under Certificates published by the 
GRO. However, in the Details I specify the type of certificate and where 
appropriate the date (although usually the latter would be in the event).

Similarly for newspapers the name of the newspaper and date, page etc would 
go in the Detail.

Ron Ferguson



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>From: "Kirsten Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
>Subject: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting
>Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:21:07 -0700
>
>I'm not experienced in the various options within Legacy for printing books
>so I may have a wrong impression, but wouldn't the Master Source List 
>equate
>to a bibliography at the end of a book?  And if so, wouldn't "lumping" say,
>all bmd records under a Master Source perhaps called "Vitals," defeat that
>function?
>
>Also, couldn't the Master Source List serve as a checklist of the resources
>you had used in research?  In that case, wouldn't lumping say, various
>newspapers together under "Newspapers," also defeat that function?
>
>Or are there better ways to get a bibliography-type report rather than 
>using
>the Master Source List?  (I know the "To-Do" list is supposed to be good 
>for
>tracking research; unfortunately I'm just not very religious about using it
>that way.)
>
>Kirsten

_
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Re: [LegacyUG] Please truncate your mail

[Kirstin Martinez]

I use Thunderbird. Is there a way to automatically add the hyphen hyphen 
space in thunderbird?


--
Kirstin

Mike Fry wrote:

Mike Fry wrote:

Wayne Martell wrote:
Millenia could do its part by minimizing the amount they tack on at 
the end of each message. I see no reason why it has to be more than 
1 line, 2 at the most.


If it was formatted to proper signature standards, most 'real' email 
readers would automatically truncate the Millennia 'signature'. I 
still don't see why the Millennia-added lines can't be preceded by 
the standard 'hyphen hyphen space' line.




Then again... if all users had a 'standard' signature beginning with 
the 'hyphen hyphen space' line, then things would solve themselves. 
Probably too much to hope for :-)






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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 76

[Anne Picketts]

Bill - I have just generated exactly what you did.  If you choose which ever 
way 
you want your file - I chose *.pdf, and then click save, it all comes back to 
'normal' and those preview and print areas are not greyed out.

Vista is fine - we just have to except that it behaves differently and find a 
way 
around those behavourial problems.

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RE: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[ronald ferguson]

Kirsten,

I do not really use the Sources for the purposes which you indicate but as a 
lumper I would say that your supposition is not really accurate. For example 
all BMD certificates in the UK are issued by the GRO (Government Record 
Office) and I lump all these together under Certificates published by the 
GRO. However, in the Details I specify the type of certificate and where 
appropriate the date (although usually the latter would be in the event).


Similarly for newspapers the name of the newspaper and date, page etc would 
go in the Detail.


Ron Ferguson



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From: "Kirsten Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
Subject: [LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:21:07 -0700

I'm not experienced in the various options within Legacy for printing books
so I may have a wrong impression, but wouldn't the Master Source List 
equate

to a bibliography at the end of a book?  And if so, wouldn't "lumping" say,
all bmd records under a Master Source perhaps called "Vitals," defeat that
function?

Also, couldn't the Master Source List serve as a checklist of the resources
you had used in research?  In that case, wouldn't lumping say, various
newspapers together under "Newspapers," also defeat that function?

Or are there better ways to get a bibliography-type report rather than 
using
the Master Source List?  (I know the "To-Do" list is supposed to be good 
for

tracking research; unfortunately I'm just not very religious about using it
that way.)

Kirsten


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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 76

[Susan Daily]

Bill,
It works fine for me, following your steps, in XP. Perhaps someone
with Vista can verify.

Susan
(Sorry about your Vista problems.)

On 8/20/07, William Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When I go to Reports and then Publishing center and
> add a Descendant Narrative book to the Chapter and
> then to preview, everything seems fine. If I click on
> "edit settings for current chapter," another window
> appears and the the "preview, print and printer setup"
> are greyed out. I select my options and close the
> window and this error report appears;
>
> Error opening Report user file
> C:\LegacyV6\Books\CurrentBook.000.
> Error 76: Path not found
> Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?
>
> If I click on "no" I can procede, but none of the
> selected option takes hold. If I click on "quit,"
> Legacy closes. If I click on "yes" the error just
> keeps popping up.
>
> I have the latest build and using Vista. I checked the
> archives and error 76 and found no solution to the
> problem. I also have administration rights on this
> computer.
>
> What am I or Vista, or the program doing wrong?
>
> By the way, if I could get Windows XP back I would be
> a most happy camper.
>
> Bill


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[LegacyUG] More Lumping and Splitting

[Kirsten Bowman]

I'm not experienced in the various options within Legacy for printing books
so I may have a wrong impression, but wouldn't the Master Source List equate
to a bibliography at the end of a book?  And if so, wouldn't "lumping" say,
all bmd records under a Master Source perhaps called "Vitals," defeat that
function?

Also, couldn't the Master Source List serve as a checklist of the resources
you had used in research?  In that case, wouldn't lumping say, various
newspapers together under "Newspapers," also defeat that function?

Or are there better ways to get a bibliography-type report rather than using
the Master Source List?  (I know the "To-Do" list is supposed to be good for
tracking research; unfortunately I'm just not very religious about using it
that way.)

Kirsten




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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 76

[Sherry/Support]

Bill,

I haven't seen this problem in Vista and I was just spending some time this
morning in Publishing Center.

The preview, printer and printer setup buttons should be grayed out when
you're editing a chapter.  Previewing is done through Publishing Center
itself.

It's possible that the book file is corrupted.  Try removing that chapter
and then adding it back. If that doesn't help, you may need to completely
delete the book and start over.

A  lot of people have dumped Vista and gone back to XP!  I hear the computer
stores are being kept busy doing this!

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 76


When I go to Reports and then Publishing center and
add a Descendant Narrative book to the Chapter and
then to preview, everything seems fine. If I click on
"edit settings for current chapter," another window
appears and the the "preview, print and printer setup"
are greyed out. I select my options and close the
window and this error report appears;

Error opening Report user file
C:\LegacyV6\Books\CurrentBook.000.
Error 76: Path not found
Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?

If I click on "no" I can procede, but none of the
selected option takes hold. If I click on "quit,"
Legacy closes. If I click on "yes" the error just
keeps popping up.

I have the latest build and using Vista. I checked the
archives and error 76 and found no solution to the
problem. I also have administration rights on this
computer.

What am I or Vista, or the program doing wrong?

By the way, if I could get Windows XP back I would be
a most happy camper.

Bill




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[LegacyUG] county as a person

[Janis Gilmore]

In the same vein as a Surname persona, which collects surname-pertinent
data, I have a persona for each of the four counties in which I do the most
research. I enter "events" such as courthouse burnings, iconic moments in
history (the night the dance hall blew up, the Jesse James bank robbery,
etc) It makes a nice little county history, which comes in handy for
creating interesting family narratives.

 

I used to use TMG (The Master Genealogist), and someone on that list had
created a really inventive way of recording census, which involved creating
a person with the state surname, and county given name, etc.

 

I would be interested to know if others in Legacy are creating other kinds
of research "individuals."

 

Janis




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[LegacyUG] Error 76

[William Haines]

When I go to Reports and then Publishing center and
add a Descendant Narrative book to the Chapter and
then to preview, everything seems fine. If I click on
"edit settings for current chapter," another window
appears and the the "preview, print and printer setup"
are greyed out. I select my options and close the
window and this error report appears;

Error opening Report user file
C:\LegacyV6\Books\CurrentBook.000.
Error 76: Path not found
Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?

If I click on "no" I can procede, but none of the
selected option takes hold. If I click on "quit,"
Legacy closes. If I click on "yes" the error just
keeps popping up.

I have the latest build and using Vista. I checked the
archives and error 76 and found no solution to the
problem. I also have administration rights on this
computer.

What am I or Vista, or the program doing wrong?

By the way, if I could get Windows XP back I would be
a most happy camper.

Bill




   

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7

[Renee Zamora]

I have no idea - it's not something that was discussed at the sneak peek of 
Legacy 7.Renee Zamorawww.harrisena.com

> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:16:10 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7> > 
> Quoting Renee Zamora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> > Does anyone know if exporting 
> map coordinates into the gedcom file is covered > in the new Legacy 7?> > I 
> saw here at some point a question about it and the response was that this is 
> > not a standard gedcom feature. Things have progressed however since gedcom 
> came > along and what is the purpose of having a geodatabase with lat/long if 
> you are > not able to use them on your website?> > Best regards,> Johan 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History

[Mike Fry]

Jenny M Benson wrote:

Mike Fry wrote
Or, if they want a really good argument, try broaching the subject on 
soc.genealogy.britain :-)


Do you really want to unleash DM on the nice folks of LUG?!


At least we aficionados of SGB can tell the difference between the 
gentle, kitten-play that goes on here, with the rough-and-tumble caused 
by a Moody-moment ;-)


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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Name History

[Jenny M Benson]

Mike Fry wrote
Or, if they want a really good argument, try broaching the subject on 
soc.genealogy.britain :-)


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RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing SSDI (was lumper or splitter)

[Sherry/Support]

Dermot,

That is the correct dates for the Legacy cruise.

We will still be monitoring and answering emails but please be patient for
responses from us!  We'll be really busy the first five days with classes
and then the rest of the week we'll be having other learning experiences


No definite date has been set yet for the release of v7.

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Thanks.

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McGlone
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:33 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing SSDI (was lumper or splitter)

Jim,

No firm date has been mentioned yet, although I seem to remember
Sherry saying it would be after the Legacy Cruise this year, which I
believe takes place 19 Sep to 01 Oct (I can be corrected on those
dates).

Hope that helps,

Dermot.

On 19/08/07, Jim Keener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Has anyone been able to pin down an approximate date when version 7
> willbe released?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[myrna20]

If there are no birth or death dates available for someone I 
ALWAYS add "Est" to my birth date. All other dates are as I 
receive them, i.e, about, cir, etc. This way I know it is plus or 
minus about 20 years and gives me something to look for. I know 
that anything with the Est is MY''' estimate and not someone 
else's.

My default is also set to Living = NO.

Myrna 


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[LegacyUG] Vacation

[myrna20]

Hello Listers,

I have really enjoyed reading all the 'favorite Legacy tips.' 
Some I know and some I didn't - see, an "older" person can still 
learn new tricks.

I am trying to beat the hurricane out of Mexico (I am down south 
of Guadalajara).I am headed for Texas Wednesday morning. I will 
cancel my message board until I return since access to a computer 
will be iffy at best.

Please remember to change your subject line so when I do return I 
can quickly go through the archives.

Thanks all,
Myrna



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Legacy Tip

[Dermot McGlone]

Dave,

You the man!!  I knew Renee's tip, but not the distinction between
left- and right-click.  Looks like you even surprised Geoff too, which
is extra kudos to you ;)

Dermot.

On 18/08/07, Dave Naylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You didn't mention that if it's a Left-Click it goes forward, whereas
> if it's a Right-Click it goes backward to the next individual.   :-)
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing SSDI (was lumper or splitter)

[Dermot McGlone]

Jim,

No firm date has been mentioned yet, although I seem to remember
Sherry saying it would be after the Legacy Cruise this year, which I
believe takes place 19 Sep to 01 Oct (I can be corrected on those
dates).

Hope that helps,

Dermot.

On 19/08/07, Jim Keener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Has anyone been able to pin down an approximate date when version 7
> willbe released?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Siteing sources for Griffiths Valuation ?

[Dermot McGlone]

Slightly OT, but just to add a little more to this, for those of you
not familiar with Griffith's Valuation, the following is copied from
http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php:

" Irelands Valuation office conducted it's first survey of property
ownership in Ireland from 1848  to 1864. This survey became known as
"Griffiths Valuation" after Richard Griffith who was the director of
the office at that time. The survey was used to determine the amount
of tax each person should pay towards the support of the poor within
their poor law union. This involved determining the value of  all
privately held lands and buildings in rural as well as urban areas to
figure the rate at which each unit of property could be rented year
after year. The resulting survey was arranged by barony and civil
parish with an index to the townlands appearing in each volume.
Griffith's Valuation can be used as an excellent census substitute for
the years after the Great Famine as censuses prior to 1901 were
destroyed."

Hope this helps,

Dermot.

On 19/08/07, Alice Hawrilenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  For those not familiar eith
> it,  Griffith's Valuation can be used as an excellent census substitute for
> the years after the Great Famine as censuses prior to 1901 were destroyed.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Alphabetizing Names

[Dermot McGlone]

In the Irish phone books, Mac and Mc appear together.  They are both
treated as Mac for filing purposes, therefore appearing after Mab...
and before Mad... Names like Macken would appear in the middle of all
the McK's, for example.  Spaces, if the exist between the Mc and the
remainder of the name, are ignored.  For instance, I write my surname
McGlone, but my father usually (but not always) writes Mc Glone.  it's
a matter of personal preference.

Those with a prefix O' (or O followed by a space), are listed before
any other O... surnames (such as Oates, Etc.).

As far as I know, Fitz's are generally treated as ignoring the space
(if there is one, most people don't use the space here at all).

Hope this helps (and doesn't confuse too much!)

Regards,

Dermot.

On 17/08/07, Phil Warn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Also, in British phone books, both Mac an Mc sort together.
>
> So both McBeth and MacBeth would appear together,
> sorted within by the alphabetical order of the initials of, or full, 
> forenames.


> Then again, the Irish use O'  too as a prefix.


> Also what does one do with the prefix Fitz - son of?
>
> Is Fitzroy the same as Fitz Roy?
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7

[johan]

Quoting Renee Zamora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Does anyone know if exporting map coordinates into the gedcom file is covered 
in the new Legacy 7?

I saw here at some point a question about it and the response was that this is 
not a standard gedcom feature. Things have progressed however since gedcom came 
along and what is the purpose of having a geodatabase with lat/long if you are 
not able to use them on your website?

Best regards,
Johan Lauwens
www.family-maw.co.uk


> I was told Legacy 7 will be released in October after the Legacy Cruise and
> yes I have seen the new source template screens and they do look different
> than RootsMagic. I think RootsMagics sources are not as easy to use as Legacy
> 7 will be.
> 
> Here are the links to the articles I have written on Legacy 7.
> 
> http://rzamor1.blogspot.com/2007/07/sneak-peek-of-legacy-7.html
> http://rzamor1.blogspot.com/2007/08/sneak-peek-of-legacy-7-part-two.html
> 
> Renee Zamora
> www.harrisena.com 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Jim Keener 
>   To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:45 AM
>   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing SSDI (was lumper or splitter)
> 
> 
>   Has anyone been able to pin down an approximate date when version 7 will be
> released?  I am struggling with Legacy's source format.  I'm thinking about
> buying Roots Magic just because of the ease of citing information.  Also, 
> does anyone know what the source portion of version 7 is going to look like?
> 
> 
>   Thanks,
> 
>   Jim
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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