Re: [MBZ] Strong bidding for an '87 turbo wagon

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Yes.  That would be awesome.  Email sent.

Kyle



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Re: [MBZ] Strong bidding for an '87 turbo wagon

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I do like a super clean wagon and I know someone would love that car, but
that someone is not me.  Just dont care for that body style forward.

I am loving the wagon, Andrew.  Running like a top and everything is
getting shiny!

Kyle




> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:27:07 -0400
> Subject: [MBZ] Strong bidding for an '87 turbo wagon
> Must be the meticulous records...
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-mercedes-benz-300td/
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Awesome! I had seen this site but couldn't find much on their quality. The
company in California is talked about on the interweebs.

As far as buying a used engine, might get a good one if you can wait around
until you find it, or you slap down the cash for a rebuilt. I must admit,
after the last 2 tanks of diesel, I am not too worried about needing an
engine soon. The motor is literally purring now that it is being run
regularly. I haven't even done the diesel purge and second oil change yet!

Kyle

On Mar 21, 2017 8:30 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> I found rebuilt engines for wagons:
>
> http://www.dieselmercedes.com/Complete_Diesel_Motors_s/2150.
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[MBZ] Mercedes Wagon - Too much money, again

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

https://treasure.craigslist.org/cto/6038274988.html

Well, it is a wagon, but not the wagon I need.  It should be perfect for
this price.

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Re: [MBZ] Car for Kyle and SWMBO

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I have a spare truck if the MB breaks down so another car is not really
what I need, or want to insure and take care of.

If I did want another "real" car, I certainly would look at a nice older
MB... Maybe a Coupe as I think those are pretty cool!

Kyle

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Naa, this one is for his n Hers.  Or a backup car for when one of the
> others needs work.  It is much cheaper to keep a spare MB Diesel than to be
> without wheels due to repairs or catastrophe.
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> March 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM
>> I did look at that wagon also. I just hesitated as getting it here without
>> a blue interior seemed to be too much work.
>>
>> I will get the perfect spare car when the perfect spare comes along! Or
>> maybe just skip the whole thing and wait until I need an
>> engine/transmission/etc.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Car for Kyle and SWMBO

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I did look at that wagon also.  I just hesitated as getting it here without
a blue interior seemed to be too much work.

I will get the perfect spare car when the perfect spare comes along!  Or
maybe just skip the whole thing and wait until I need an
engine/transmission/etc.

Kyle

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> I like it - the seller seems to be a full discloser who realizes his car
> will take a lot of work to bring it up to snuff.  A visit and some kind
> words and he'd probably let it go for $1300.  Unfortunatey, the interior is
> the wrong color for Kyle et al.
>
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> > https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/5999581053.html
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> > Almost as good as the first, and a lot less money.
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Re: [MBZ] Kyle's Next Wagon

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That sounds like a super nice swap! Something to consider in another 100k
miles or so...

Kyle

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> Herbert my mechanic swapped a 560sl drivetrain into his w123 wagon from a
> car he was left with. It was a nice direct swap without a lot of bs.
> Probably had more power than this junker ever will. He used to tow his
> water ski boat to lake havasu and back with it for about 10 years. He just
> sold it for 7k. It had a new leather interior in it, totally perfect. Guy
> got a deal.
>
> On Mar 4, 2017 2:11 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
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> > http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/
> > 2655210-euro-wagon-v-8-swap.html#post14562290
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> > Crazy.
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Re: [MBZ] 85 wagon

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Awesome! Too bad it is 15 hours each way to drive.

Kyle

Kyle

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>
> 1985 Mercedes Benz 300TD Diesel Wagon
> http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/6028036817.html
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Re: [MBZ] Powder Coating?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Oh... Bummer.

Kyle

On Mar 2, 2017 6:23 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> First time I went there last Feb to ask about doing my wheels they told me
> it would be September before they would have time to do them. When I went
> in the middle of September they said they don't do wheels.
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Did you check with Powder Coating of Gainesville?  I know they have done
>> some amazing work and is who I am planning on visiting for my wheels.  Not
>> sure of their prices yet...
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:04 PM, MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Roger's welding and truck repair on South Main St does powder coating.
>>> Said it would be 250-350 depending on how much needs to be done to clean
>>> them. I thought it was a bit much and will see what the places in Orlando
>>> want to do the job.
>>>
>>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> I have them on the rear already and the front are getting done this
>>>> Saturday.
>>>>
>>>> It is just the overall appearance of the wheel is much nicer, in my
>>>> opinion, when the wheels are powder coated.
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
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>>>> wrote:
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>>>> Change to ceramic pads and you won't have an issue with dust.
>>>>
>>>>> -D
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
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>>>>>
>>>>> And I can't wait to get a spare set of bunts to powdercoat for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wagon...
>>>>>
>>>>> So easy to clean on car wash day!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kyle
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Re: [MBZ] Powder Coating?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Did you check with Powder Coating of Gainesville?  I know they have done
some amazing work and is who I am planning on visiting for my wheels.  Not
sure of their prices yet...

Kyle

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:04 PM, MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Roger's welding and truck repair on South Main St does powder coating.
> Said it would be 250-350 depending on how much needs to be done to clean
> them. I thought it was a bit much and will see what the places in Orlando
> want to do the job.
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I have them on the rear already and the front are getting done this
>> Saturday.
>>
>> It is just the overall appearance of the wheel is much nicer, in my
>> opinion, when the wheels are powder coated.
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
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>> wrote:
>>
>> Change to ceramic pads and you won't have an issue with dust.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
>>>>
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And I can't wait to get a spare set of bunts to powdercoat for the
>>>>
>>> wagon...
>>>
>>>> So easy to clean on car wash day!
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Because my neighbors are ass-hats. It is not worth have an "unknown" car at
my place.

Ktle

On Mar 2, 2017 8:56 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> If its going to be a parts car why do you care about the title?
> -Curt
>
>   From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 7:19 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!
>
> I told the seller that if he got a Florida title that I would come and
> check out the car with intent to make an offer, but without the FL title, I
> was going to pass.  All I can do about it as I don't want to eat a bowl of
> "should have had a Florida title" BS...  I really don't "need" a parts car,
> yet, but am just planning for the future when they are even more scarce.
>
> If anyone has a parts wagon in their area that is worth looking at, let me
> know.  Diamond blue, with Blue interior preferred, but not necessarily
> required.  IF it is awesome enough, I certainly would have it shipped to
> me.  Clear title a must! hahaha!
>
> Kyle
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> > >
> > > Here in SC the deal is the new "owner" sends a registered
> >
> > letter to the last registered owner's address, I think the letter
> basically
> > > says that if the registered owner doesn't respond in 90 days or some
> time
> > > period, the state will cancel the old title and issue a new title to
> the
> > > new owner.  Once the 90 days are up with no response to the state, new
> > > owner can get a new title issued.
> > >
> >
> > Essentially that is the drill here in WA, or was when I procured the
> > Frankenheap.
> > The registered letter was returned
> > No-Such-Person-Here-No-Forwarding-Address.
> > The unopened letter was all I needed to get the car titled in my name,
> > essentially
> > immediately.
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Re: [MBZ] Powder Coating?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I have them on the rear already and the front are getting done this
Saturday.

It is just the overall appearance of the wheel is much nicer, in my
opinion, when the wheels are powder coated.

Kyle

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> Change to ceramic pads and you won't have an issue with dust.
>
> -D
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> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > And I can't wait to get a spare set of bunts to powdercoat for the
> wagon...
> > So easy to clean on car wash day!
> >
> > Kyle
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Re: [MBZ] Powder Coating?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

And I can't wait to get a spare set of bunts to powdercoat for the wagon...
So easy to clean on car wash day!

Kyle

On Mar 2, 2017 7:50 AM, "Dan--- via Mercedes"  wrote:

> I had intake and exhaust manifolds done on my W114 coupe some years ago.
> The finish was as hard as a rock, I recall that. It held up well on the
> exhaust considering the temperatures involved.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 10:53 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I just had my Rial wheels redone. The original powder coat was from the
> early 80's and was starting to wear away to an undercoat in some places but
> no scrapes or pealing anywhere. I hope the new stuff lasts at least half of
> that. They look very nice now.
> >
> > Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Does anyone know the ins-and-outs of powder coating (beyond "spray it
> >> with an electrostatic gun and heat it up until the powder fuses')?
> >> How well does it stand up? Scratch/gouge resistance? Solar UV exposure?
> >> Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

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Excellent point!  Sounds like a good way to get rid of some of my "extra"
money that just happens to be falling out of my pockets  NOT!  hahaha!

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
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> Just a thought.
>
> Any Carolina liens on the car?
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curley McLain
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: 01 March 2017 15:20
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!
>
> get him to spend the bucks tomorrow to get the title in his name.  Then
> he can sell it.Then you can buy it.   Maybe even offer to pay the
> title fee for him as part of the sale.
>
> If you "skip a generation" then you have to be sure the title does not
> have his name as the buyer and does have the seller signed off.  then
> with the bill of sale, you might be ok, unless you need to show a bill
> of sale for tax purposes, in which case the bill of sale seller needs to
> match the title seller.
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I would, but I am not "THAT" interested.  If it also had a blue interior I
may have tried a little harder  I don't need a parts car yet.  The
wagon formerly known as "Andrew's" is running better than ever and every
little thing I do makes it that much more AWESOME!  Even my wife is loving
the wagon

Kyle

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Get the VIN and use it to Google "stolen cars".
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Is "pretend" another way to spell "fraud"?
> >
> > RB
> >
> > On 01/03/2017 1:47 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >>He is telling me that I just "pretend" that I just purchased the car
> >> from the Carolina
> >> dude.
> >>
> >> Kyle
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Exactly Randy!!!  I am not the kind of guy to screw up my sweet life, which
happens to be really awesome right now, with the possibility of "pretend"
that is actually fraud hahaha!

Kyle

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> Is "pretend" another way to spell "fraud"?
>
> RB
>
> On 01/03/2017 1:47 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>He is telling me that I just "pretend" that I just purchased the car
>> from the Carolina
>> dude.
>>
>> Kyle
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I told the seller that if he got a Florida title that I would come and
check out the car with intent to make an offer, but without the FL title, I
was going to pass.  All I can do about it as I don't want to eat a bowl of
"should have had a Florida title" BS...  I really don't "need" a parts car,
yet, but am just planning for the future when they are even more scarce.

If anyone has a parts wagon in their area that is worth looking at, let me
know.  Diamond blue, with Blue interior preferred, but not necessarily
required.  IF it is awesome enough, I certainly would have it shipped to
me.  Clear title a must! hahaha!

Kyle

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> >
> > Here in SC the deal is the new "owner" sends a registered
>
> letter to the last registered owner's address, I think the letter basically
> > says that if the registered owner doesn't respond in 90 days or some time
> > period, the state will cancel the old title and issue a new title to the
> > new owner.  Once the 90 days are up with no response to the state, new
> > owner can get a new title issued.
> >
>
> Essentially that is the drill here in WA, or was when I procured the
> Frankenheap.
> The registered letter was returned
> No-Such-Person-Here-No-Forwarding-Address.
> The unopened letter was all I needed to get the car titled in my name,
> essentially
> immediately.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

That was a whole load of butthurtedness.

Emailed Jerry and told him no with Florida title I was not interested
anymore and if he got the title to let me know as I am interested in the
car.

Easy for me. I will get a parts car soon enough.

Kyle

On Mar 1, 2017 3:49 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> I had a similar issue with my 1962 300SE that came out of California.  And
> all I can say is that if you haven’t ever dealt with the CA DMV, you’re a
> very, very lucky person.
>
> I walked into the Florida tax collector’s office with a bill of sale and a
> letter from the attorney who probated the estate the car came out of
> stating that the car was a part of an estate they had power of attorney for
> the owner and that they were conveying ownership to me.  The folks in FL
> couldn’t have cared less.  No CA title - no title in Florida.  Went back to
> the attorney who told me “tough beans” and ultimately the State of CA.
> Essentially they said that the only way I would get a clear title was to
> pay the 5-6 years worth of non-operation fees and penalties (in person!)
> That was about $1800 at the time.  Yeah.
>
> I ended up paying about $500 to a company in Alabama that washed the title
> and sent me a clean AL title in my name.  Walked into the FL tax collectors
> office the next week and walked out with a FL title and registration.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I emailed the seller back and told him I was concerned with the lack of a
> > Florida title and once he has a Florida title to let me know and I will
> be
> > happy to come look at the car...  I am so not into butthurt
> >
> > Kyle
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I emailed the seller back and told him I was concerned with the lack of a
Florida title and once he has a Florida title to let me know and I will be
happy to come look at the car...  I am so not into butthurt

Kyle

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Yeah, this has all sorts of butthurt all over it.  Florida isn’t going to
> let him off the hook on this because they want their pound of flesh.  You
> can do “pass through” titles in Florida but only by dealers that I know
> of.  Otherwise you’ve got to title and register the car within the
> statutory time frame (30 days?) or the owner has to pay big penalties.
>
> I don’t see how this guy thinks he’s going to unload the car without a
> valid Florida title.  Florida is a lot like CA in the way that it gets its
> claws into the transaction whether you like it or not.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I will call the DMV this afternoon.  There is a Carolina title, just
> still
> > in the previous owners name,  but signed over and ready to go.  If it
> looks
> > bad at all I am going to pass. Thanks Dan!
> >
> > Curley, I will email him back and ask if he will do that but if he didn't
> > do it in the past 2 years, no reason to expect him to get off his rump
> and
> > do it now...
> >
> > Kyle
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I will call the DMV this afternoon.  There is a Carolina title, just still
in the previous owners name,  but signed over and ready to go.  If it looks
bad at all I am going to pass. Thanks Dan!

Curley, I will email him back and ask if he will do that but if he didn't
do it in the past 2 years, no reason to expect him to get off his rump and
do it now...

Kyle


On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> get him to spend the bucks tomorrow to get the title in his name.  Then he
> can sell it.Then you can buy it.   Maybe even offer to pay the title
> fee for him as part of the sale.
>
> If you "skip a generation" then you have to be sure the title does not
> have his name as the buyer and does have the seller signed off.  then with
> the bill of sale, you might be ok, unless you need to show a bill of sale
> for tax purposes, in which case the bill of sale seller needs to match the
> title seller.
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> March 1, 2017 at 1:47 PM
>> The problem is the current "owner" has the title, in the previous owners
>> name. Never transferred to his ownership in Florida. He is telling me
>> that I just "pretend" that I just purchased the car from the Carolina
>> dude. I don't know if the Carolina (north or south I do not know) title
>> has a date on it or not, I just hate when people do things like this
>> half-assed. I replied to Jerry that I would expect a bill of sale from him
>> regardless of the state of the title. I do not want to drive home with a
>> "stolen" car on my trailer
>>
>> Kyle
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

UPDATE:

Current owner has no problem providing me with a bill of sale with his data
on it.  I feel moderately better about this now.  Meeting on for Saturday
morning if the wagon doesn't sell before that.  I cannot imagine that it
will but you never know...

Kyle

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The problem is the current "owner" has the title, in the previous owners
> name.  Never transferred to his ownership in Florida.  He is telling me
> that I just "pretend" that I just purchased the car from the Carolina
> dude.  I don't know if the Carolina (north or south I do not know) title
> has a date on it or not, I just hate when people do things like this
> half-assed.  I replied to Jerry that I would expect a bill of sale from him
> regardless of the state of the title.  I do not want to drive home with a
> "stolen" car on my trailer
>
> Kyle
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> When I bought my 124 cabriolet, it had been abandoned at a garage and the
>> tow truck guy (a retired cop) went through the hassle of getting a new
>> title issued.  Here in SC the deal is the new "owner" sends a registered
>> letter to the last registered owner's address, I think the letter
>> basically
>> says that if the registered owner doesn't respond in 90 days or some time
>> period, the state will cancel the old title and issue a new title to the
>> new owner.  Once the 90 days are up with no response to the state, new
>> owner can get a new title issued.
>>
>> Check with your local sheriffs office or municipal police, they may even
>> have the info online.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I am emailing with Jerry, the "almost" owner.  Found out the title is in
>> > the previous owners name from the Carolina's  From a "couple" of
>> years
>> > ago.  I am pretty sure if the original title was filled out correctly
>> then
>> > Jerry has to go to the DMV to get his title before he can sign it over
>> to
>> > me.  But I may be wrong and perhaps a bill of sale will suffice?  Anyone
>> > know that for Florida?
>> >
>> > I will see where this ends up but I am not happy about the title
>> thing.  I
>> > certainly don't "need" a parts car yet, but I do wonder how many are
>> really
>> > left around anymore?  How long until we can't find a parts car at all?
>> >
>> > Kyle
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > In those cases you drive it and maintain it until such time as it does
>> > > become a parts car
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my iPhone
>> > >
>> > > > On Feb 28, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > In the purgatory between parts car and too expensive to restore.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> "rear passenger door where there is some flaked bondo"
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ruhroh
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --FT
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> On 2/28/17 2:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> https://lakeland.craigslist.org/cto/6023620737.html
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

The problem is the current "owner" has the title, in the previous owners
name.  Never transferred to his ownership in Florida.  He is telling me
that I just "pretend" that I just purchased the car from the Carolina
dude.  I don't know if the Carolina (north or south I do not know) title
has a date on it or not, I just hate when people do things like this
half-assed.  I replied to Jerry that I would expect a bill of sale from him
regardless of the state of the title.  I do not want to drive home with a
"stolen" car on my trailer

Kyle

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When I bought my 124 cabriolet, it had been abandoned at a garage and the
> tow truck guy (a retired cop) went through the hassle of getting a new
> title issued.  Here in SC the deal is the new "owner" sends a registered
> letter to the last registered owner's address, I think the letter basically
> says that if the registered owner doesn't respond in 90 days or some time
> period, the state will cancel the old title and issue a new title to the
> new owner.  Once the 90 days are up with no response to the state, new
> owner can get a new title issued.
>
> Check with your local sheriffs office or municipal police, they may even
> have the info online.
>
> -----
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I am emailing with Jerry, the "almost" owner.  Found out the title is in
> > the previous owners name from the Carolina's  From a "couple" of
> years
> > ago.  I am pretty sure if the original title was filled out correctly
> then
> > Jerry has to go to the DMV to get his title before he can sign it over to
> > me.  But I may be wrong and perhaps a bill of sale will suffice?  Anyone
> > know that for Florida?
> >
> > I will see where this ends up but I am not happy about the title thing.
> I
> > certainly don't "need" a parts car yet, but I do wonder how many are
> really
> > left around anymore?  How long until we can't find a parts car at all?
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In those cases you drive it and maintain it until such time as it does
> > > become a parts car
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Feb 28, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In the purgatory between parts car and too expensive to restore.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "rear passenger door where there is some flaked bondo"
> > > >>
> > > >> ruhroh
> > > >>
> > > >> --FT
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 2/28/17 2:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://lakeland.craigslist.org/cto/6023620737.html
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -D
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> > > >> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or
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> > > >> large or petty,
> > > >> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> > > >> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I am emailing with Jerry, the "almost" owner.  Found out the title is in
the previous owners name from the Carolina's  From a "couple" of years
ago.  I am pretty sure if the original title was filled out correctly then
Jerry has to go to the DMV to get his title before he can sign it over to
me.  But I may be wrong and perhaps a bill of sale will suffice?  Anyone
know that for Florida?

I will see where this ends up but I am not happy about the title thing.  I
certainly don't "need" a parts car yet, but I do wonder how many are really
left around anymore?  How long until we can't find a parts car at all?

Kyle

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In those cases you drive it and maintain it until such time as it does
> become a parts car
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 28, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > In the purgatory between parts car and too expensive to restore.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "rear passenger door where there is some flaked bondo"
> >>
> >> ruhroh
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2/28/17 2:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> https://lakeland.craigslist.org/cto/6023620737.html
> >>>
> >>> -D
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> >> large or petty,
> >> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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[MBZ] Even I think this is crack head money

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/5997817934.html

Looks like Wagon prices are through the roof!

Happy Hump Day!

Kyle
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Re: [MBZ] Parts car for Kyle!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

True it is in the middle ground.

I am contacting them this morning to have a chat about the wagon and maybe
have a look on Saturday morning.

Kyle

On Feb 28, 2017 4:12 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In the purgatory between parts car and too expensive to restore.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > "rear passenger door where there is some flaked bondo"
> >
> > ruhroh
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/28/17 2:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> https://lakeland.craigslist.org/cto/6023620737.html
> >>
> >> -D
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> > large or petty,
> > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] The Eagle Has Landed

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Fantastic!  Next time I want to buy a Mercedes I am going to come to Tampa
and have you go with me!

kyle

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The car is beautiful.  Life simply is not fair.
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Current count is six.
> >
> > My kids are grown, I have lots of time on my hands.  And for the most
> part
> > none of them take a great deal of my time.  The cars, that is.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > At last count you have about 20 vehicles, plus or minus.  How do you do
> > it and lead a normal family life?  How do I curtail my envy?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > > 300SEL is in the driveway.  Good drive home, nothing to report - yet.
> > Going in the garage for a clay bar treatment and then a wash before a
> > possible polish (if needed) and a wax.
> > >
> > > Pictures to follow.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 10 questions

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Glad it is working!

Kyle

On Feb 19, 2017 12:43 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There wasn't anything in the dialup connection settings to do that. The
> service didn't restart when I turned the computer on this morning. I must
> have held my tongue just right when I did it. Or maybe it was because of
> some of the other stuff I turned off.
>
> Manfred
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> When you reboot, the service will restart. That is not a long term fix.
>> Did you set your home connection to metered?
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2017 12:29 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> So far after disabling windows updater in Services everything has been OK.
>>>
>>> Manfred
>>>
>>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> Manfred,
>>>>
>>>> There is no "turn off updates" in win 10. You can turn off upgrades, but
>>>> upgrades are the large version changes. Like from 1511 to 1607.
>>>>
>>>> Once you set the connection to metered you should effectively stop the
>>>> normal updates from happening.
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 19, 2017 9:30 AM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to try this and see if it works for the dialup connection
>>>> cause
>>>>
>>>>> that's where I need it. If it doesn't work there then it won't help
>>>>> much.
>>>>> I'll keep looking there's got to be something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Manfred
>>>>>
>>>>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For the updates, set your connection type to metered.
>>>>>
>>>>>> To change this option, open the Settings app, head to Network &
>>>>>> Internet >
>>>>>> Wi-FI, and click “Manage Known Networks”. Choose your modem network
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> click “Properties”. From there, enable the “Set as metered connection”
>>>>>> option. This option only affects the Wi-Fi network you’re currently
>>>>>> editing, but Windows will remember this setting for each individual
>>>>>> Wi-Fi
>>>>>> network on which you change it. (If you haven’t gotten the Anniversary
>>>>>> Update yet, this option will be in Settings > Network & Internet >
>>>>>> Advanced
>>>>>> Options.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kyle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2017 7:41 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I got the new laptop from Fred which works very nicely. Thank you
>>>>>> Fred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However I have some questions about win10. I seem to remember that
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> was a way to keep it from updating all the time. I tried getting on
>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>> with a USB phone modem and couldn't do anything because the darn
>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>> took all the bandwidth to do some kind of updating or communications
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> some sort. So after about 5 frustrating minutes of being told that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> internet is not available or that google or Mozilla could not be
>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> though the first two little pictures on Google chrome had started to
>>>>>>> load,
>>>>>>> I gave up and pulled the phone line. The modem had been working away
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> both LEDs blinking away so it was doing something. The communications
>>>>>>> monitor list of the security showed a bunch of updates and other
>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> either worked or after I pulled the plug showed a fail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other little problem I have a question about is does anyone know
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> modem would cause all the other phones in the house to ring in a
>>>>>

Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 10 questions

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

When you reboot, the service will restart. That is not a long term fix.
Did you set your home connection to metered?
Kyle

On Feb 19, 2017 12:29 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So far after disabling windows updater in Services everything has been OK.
>
> Manfred
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Manfred,
>>
>> There is no "turn off updates" in win 10. You can turn off upgrades, but
>> upgrades are the large version changes. Like from 1511 to 1607.
>>
>> Once you set the connection to metered you should effectively stop the
>> normal updates from happening.
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2017 9:30 AM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to try this and see if it works for the dialup connection cause
>>> that's where I need it. If it doesn't work there then it won't help much.
>>> I'll keep looking there's got to be something.
>>>
>>> Manfred
>>>
>>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> For the updates, set your connection type to metered.
>>>>
>>>> To change this option, open the Settings app, head to Network &
>>>> Internet >
>>>> Wi-FI, and click “Manage Known Networks”. Choose your modem network and
>>>> click “Properties”. From there, enable the “Set as metered connection”
>>>> option. This option only affects the Wi-Fi network you’re currently
>>>> editing, but Windows will remember this setting for each individual
>>>> Wi-Fi
>>>> network on which you change it. (If you haven’t gotten the Anniversary
>>>> Update yet, this option will be in Settings > Network & Internet >
>>>> Advanced
>>>> Options.)
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2017 7:41 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So I got the new laptop from Fred which works very nicely. Thank you
>>>> Fred.
>>>>
>>>>> However I have some questions about win10. I seem to remember that
>>>>> there
>>>>> was a way to keep it from updating all the time. I tried getting on
>>>>> line
>>>>> with a USB phone modem and couldn't do anything because the darn system
>>>>> took all the bandwidth to do some kind of updating or communications of
>>>>> some sort. So after about 5 frustrating minutes of being told that the
>>>>> internet is not available or that google or Mozilla could not be found
>>>>> even
>>>>> though the first two little pictures on Google chrome had started to
>>>>> load,
>>>>> I gave up and pulled the phone line. The modem had been working away
>>>>> with
>>>>> both LEDs blinking away so it was doing something. The communications
>>>>> monitor list of the security showed a bunch of updates and other stuff
>>>>> that
>>>>> either worked or after I pulled the plug showed a fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other little problem I have a question about is does anyone know
>>>>> why
>>>>> a
>>>>> modem would cause all the other phones in the house to ring in a
>>>>> continuous
>>>>> tone as long as it is trying to connect. This happened with the
>>>>> internal
>>>>> modem but not with the external usb connected modem. The only thing I
>>>>> can
>>>>> figure there is a bad driver or possibly a bad modem. Not a problem
>>>>> but a
>>>>> puzzle that has me wondering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Manfred
>>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 10 questions

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

There is no way to turn off updating.

By setting your connection to metered as in my first email your computer
defers updates until you are on a non-metered connection.

Kyle

On Feb 19, 2017 12:16 PM, "MG via Mercedes"  wrote:

> I can't find anywhere to turn off updates in win10. The only thing I did
> find is the Windows update service itself in the Admin tools under
> services. I have now disabled that and will see where that gets me.
>
> OK I got kind of sidetracked with this but the bottom line is that
> disabling the update services seems to have worked. I've been able to
> connect with the external modem and things seem to work except for the
> connection sounds don't work and it doesn't show a connection speed or any
> such notification at the bottom of the screen like with XP.
>
> Manfred
>
> Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> or better yet, turn off the auto updates.
>>
>> Alternatively, haul it in to the local welfare book store and use their
>> wireless to let it do 17 hours of updates and 6 or 8 restarts
>>
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>> February 19, 2017 at 7:03 AM
>>> Manfred,
>>>
>>> Sounds to me like you need to leave the machine connected overnight so
>>> it can have a nice long conversation with the mother ship, and then it will
>>> be happy for awhile.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 10 questions

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Manfred,

There is no "turn off updates" in win 10. You can turn off upgrades, but
upgrades are the large version changes. Like from 1511 to 1607.

Once you set the connection to metered you should effectively stop the
normal updates from happening.

Kyle

On Feb 19, 2017 9:30 AM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm going to try this and see if it works for the dialup connection cause
> that's where I need it. If it doesn't work there then it won't help much.
> I'll keep looking there's got to be something.
>
> Manfred
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> For the updates, set your connection type to metered.
>>
>> To change this option, open the Settings app, head to Network & Internet >
>> Wi-FI, and click “Manage Known Networks”. Choose your modem network and
>> click “Properties”. From there, enable the “Set as metered connection”
>> option. This option only affects the Wi-Fi network you’re currently
>> editing, but Windows will remember this setting for each individual Wi-Fi
>> network on which you change it. (If you haven’t gotten the Anniversary
>> Update yet, this option will be in Settings > Network & Internet >
>> Advanced
>> Options.)
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2017 7:41 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I got the new laptop from Fred which works very nicely. Thank you Fred.
>>>
>>> However I have some questions about win10. I seem to remember that there
>>> was a way to keep it from updating all the time. I tried getting on line
>>> with a USB phone modem and couldn't do anything because the darn system
>>> took all the bandwidth to do some kind of updating or communications of
>>> some sort. So after about 5 frustrating minutes of being told that the
>>> internet is not available or that google or Mozilla could not be found
>>> even
>>> though the first two little pictures on Google chrome had started to
>>> load,
>>> I gave up and pulled the phone line. The modem had been working away with
>>> both LEDs blinking away so it was doing something. The communications
>>> monitor list of the security showed a bunch of updates and other stuff
>>> that
>>> either worked or after I pulled the plug showed a fail.
>>>
>>> The other little problem I have a question about is does anyone know why
>>> a
>>> modem would cause all the other phones in the house to ring in a
>>> continuous
>>> tone as long as it is trying to connect. This happened with the internal
>>> modem but not with the external usb connected modem. The only thing I can
>>> figure there is a bad driver or possibly a bad modem. Not a problem but a
>>> puzzle that has me wondering.
>>>
>>> Manfred
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 10 questions

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

For the updates, set your connection type to metered.

To change this option, open the Settings app, head to Network & Internet >
Wi-FI, and click “Manage Known Networks”. Choose your modem network and
click “Properties”. From there, enable the “Set as metered connection”
option. This option only affects the Wi-Fi network you’re currently
editing, but Windows will remember this setting for each individual Wi-Fi
network on which you change it. (If you haven’t gotten the Anniversary
Update yet, this option will be in Settings > Network & Internet > Advanced
Options.)

Kyle

On Feb 18, 2017 7:41 PM, "MG via Mercedes"  wrote:

> So I got the new laptop from Fred which works very nicely. Thank you Fred.
>
> However I have some questions about win10. I seem to remember that there
> was a way to keep it from updating all the time. I tried getting on line
> with a USB phone modem and couldn't do anything because the darn system
> took all the bandwidth to do some kind of updating or communications of
> some sort. So after about 5 frustrating minutes of being told that the
> internet is not available or that google or Mozilla could not be found even
> though the first two little pictures on Google chrome had started to load,
> I gave up and pulled the phone line. The modem had been working away with
> both LEDs blinking away so it was doing something. The communications
> monitor list of the security showed a bunch of updates and other stuff that
> either worked or after I pulled the plug showed a fail.
>
> The other little problem I have a question about is does anyone know why a
> modem would cause all the other phones in the house to ring in a continuous
> tone as long as it is trying to connect. This happened with the internal
> modem but not with the external usb connected modem. The only thing I can
> figure there is a bad driver or possibly a bad modem. Not a problem but a
> puzzle that has me wondering.
>
> Manfred
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Gullah

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Love it!
If I didn't have a farm I would so be there. You have to have a Q there so
I have the excuse to come!!!
Kyle

On Feb 16, 2017 6:41 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Come visit and you can live it here on my home Island!
>
> --R
>
>
> On 2/16/17 6:39 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Same basis as the Caribbean languages. Pigeon mix from the influence of
>> several languages. Speaks to my soul.
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2017 6:25 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The languages are probably quite similar creole based on W African
>>> languages and the local dialects of English and whatever else
>>>
>>> --FT
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/16/17 5:56 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds awesome! I listen to a lot of Dancehall from the Caribbean and
>>>> love
>>>> those accents and speech patterns.
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 16, 2017 5:11 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you want to hear some real Gullah, tune in at 3:10 for a minute or so
>>>>
>>>>> to hear Queen Quet holding forth at an oyster roast I went to on Sunday
>>>>> afternoon near Folly Beach
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WtcTUSNRm4=youtu.be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --FT
>>>>> Winston Churchill:
>>>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>>>>> large or petty,
>>>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
>>>>> of
>>>>> the enemy.”
>>>>>
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>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] OT Gullah

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Gullah-Q!!!

Kyle

On Feb 16, 2017 6:42 PM, "Kyle Arola" <kylearola1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Love it!
> If I didn't have a farm I would so be there. You have to have a Q there so
> I have the excuse to come!!!
> Kyle
>
> On Feb 16, 2017 6:41 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Come visit and you can live it here on my home Island!
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/17 6:39 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Same basis as the Caribbean languages. Pigeon mix from the influence of
>>> several languages. Speaks to my soul.
>>>
>>> Kyle
>>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2017 6:25 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The languages are probably quite similar creole based on W African
>>>> languages and the local dialects of English and whatever else
>>>>
>>>> --FT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/16/17 5:56 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sounds awesome! I listen to a lot of Dancehall from the Caribbean and
>>>>> love
>>>>> those accents and speech patterns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kyle
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 16, 2017 5:11 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to hear some real Gullah, tune in at 3:10 for a minute or
>>>>> so
>>>>>
>>>>>> to hear Queen Quet holding forth at an oyster roast I went to on
>>>>>> Sunday
>>>>>> afternoon near Folly Beach
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WtcTUSNRm4=youtu.be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>> Winston Churchill:
>>>>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>>>>>> large or petty,
>>>>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>>>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming
>>>>>> might of
>>>>>> the enemy.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> large or petty,
>>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
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>> large or petty,
>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] OT Gullah

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Same basis as the Caribbean languages. Pigeon mix from the influence of
several languages. Speaks to my soul.

Kyle

On Feb 16, 2017 6:25 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> The languages are probably quite similar creole based on W African
> languages and the local dialects of English and whatever else
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 2/16/17 5:56 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Sounds awesome! I listen to a lot of Dancehall from the Caribbean and love
>> those accents and speech patterns.
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2017 5:11 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If you want to hear some real Gullah, tune in at 3:10 for a minute or so
>>> to hear Queen Quet holding forth at an oyster roast I went to on Sunday
>>> afternoon near Folly Beach
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WtcTUSNRm4=youtu.be
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --FT
>>> Winston Churchill:
>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
>>> the enemy.”
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Gullah

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Sounds awesome! I listen to a lot of Dancehall from the Caribbean and love
those accents and speech patterns.

Kyle

On Feb 16, 2017 5:11 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> If you want to hear some real Gullah, tune in at 3:10 for a minute or so
> to hear Queen Quet holding forth at an oyster roast I went to on Sunday
> afternoon near Folly Beach
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WtcTUSNRm4=youtu.be
>
>
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I also have the any version disk that was mentioned in an earlier email.
Let me know if anyone needs the old school style disk.

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 5:35 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Just download the .iso I listed earlier, put it on a USB drive.
I can't remember the last time I burned a DVD.
-Curt

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Cc: Meade Dillon 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:54:32 -0500 Ed Booher via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Damn, dude, wish I'd known that. I would have pointed you at
> > instructions to build a "all version" install disk. Home and Pro are
> > the exact same kernel, the difference is in specific options that get
> > installed during initial run. You can take any Win7 ISO, delete a file
> > that tells the installer program which version it is, and burn a fresh
> > ISO. When you boot the installer it then asks you which version you are
> > installing and verifies it against the key you have.
>
> So where are the instructions, Ed?
>
>
> Craig
>
>
I'd like to have those as well, I've got the 32 bit home DVD, would be nice
to be able to edit that and then load up 64 bit Pro.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

No worries! I would have mailed you a disk if you needed it... I have many.

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 3:06 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Kyle,
>
> Manfred asked first, I've already got the Home version, and Curt has sent
> me the link for downloading an ISO.  I thought you were offering to me,
> apologies for the confusion.
>
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>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > It was Manfred that needed a copy and yes, I am in Gainesville where
> > Manfred lives.
> >
> > Kyle
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

It was Manfred that needed a copy and yes, I am in Gainesville where
Manfred lives.

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 2:49 PM, "Kyle Arola" <kylearola1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah... I thought Manfred was asking for win7 home.. Was it you? I have mail
> here in NC Florida.
>
> Kyle
>
> On Feb 15, 2017 2:37 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Is your office in Charleston SC?  You're in north FL I thought?
>>
>> -----
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I have Win 7 Pro on disk at my office. Let me know when you want it and
>> you
>> > can come by and have it! If you need home, let me know and I will burn
>> the
>> > .iso for you.
>> >
>> > Kyle
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Ah... I thought Manfred was asking for win7 home.. Was it you? I have mail
here in NC Florida.

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 2:37 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Is your office in Charleston SC?  You're in north FL I thought?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have Win 7 Pro on disk at my office. Let me know when you want it and
> you
> > can come by and have it! If you need home, let me know and I will burn
> the
> > .iso for you.
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Yeah... Get the free laptop and enjoy!!!

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 2:06 PM, "MG via Mercedes"  wrote:

> Found out that the new version won't work on XP. Found the old version but
> may not bother with that thanks to Fred.
>
> Manfred
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Yep, still free:
>>
>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/
>> downloads/index.html
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Meade Dillon 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Really cheap would be using Oracle Box (free last I checked) on your
>>> current machine to create a virtual machine environment, then build the
>>> Windows machine inside, and you've got a temporary Win7 or Win10 machine
>>> whenever you need it.
>>>
>>> -
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I have Win 7 Pro on disk at my office. Let me know when you want it and you
can come by and have it! If you need home, let me know and I will burn the
.iso for you.

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 1:08 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Should be able to find the Win7.iso online from Microsoft...
> I've got it somewhere but its too big to handoff even with dropbox...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> Cc: Meade Dillon 
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 10:53 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop
>
> Last year I picked up a Thinkpad T420, I think it is a 2013 model, for
> about $100 on eBay.  Add a new battery for $30, copy of Win7 for $70, nice
> SSD hard drive for another $50, and that is a really nice little machine.
> Very fast.
>
> The Win7 Pro 64 bit license key is on the sticker on the bottom of the
> machine, but I don't have a copy of the media to install that.  I could
> have avoided paying for the Win7 Home edition that I bought.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Ahhh. yes, your usage is way down from mine once or twice a year usage
is not enough to spend much/any money on.

Kyle

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:43 AM, MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Way out of the ballpark for something that sits around not being used but
> once or twice a year.
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Cheap in computing terms often doesn't include function.
>>
>> For $400+ you can get a reasonably modern, functional, machine.
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2017 11:00 AM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I wanted to keep it cheap just to do a few things. Not going to be for
>>> everyday use.
>>>
>>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> Last year I picked up a Thinkpad T420, I think it is a 2013 model, for
>>>> about $100 on eBay.  Add a new battery for $30, copy of Win7 for $70,
>>>> nice
>>>> SSD hard drive for another $50, and that is a really nice little
>>>> machine.
>>>> Very fast.
>>>>
>>>> The Win7 Pro 64 bit license key is on the sticker on the bottom of the
>>>> machine, but I don't have a copy of the media to install that.  I could
>>>> have avoided paying for the Win7 Home edition that I bought.
>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

True.
Asus is a consumer class machine and not generally known for its long term
robustness or upgradability, but like with everything, MG's mileage may
vary.

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 11:30 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

Adding RAM or HD space might be cheaper than buying an entire machine.

Testing out Win7 or Win10 in a virtual machine first, MG might decide he
likes it so much that he rolls his current machine over to the newer OS, if
his machine can support the bare metal installation.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But if your current machine is low on RAM or HD space that is not
> possible..
>
> Kyle
>
> On Feb 15, 2017 11:21 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Really cheap would be using Oracle Box (free last I checked) on your
> > current machine to create a virtual machine environment, then build the
> > Windows machine inside, and you've got a temporary Win7 or Win10 machine
> > whenever you need it.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Cheap in computing terms often doesn't include function.
> > >
> > > For $400+ you can get a reasonably modern, functional, machine.
> > >
> > > Kyle
> > >
> > > On Feb 15, 2017 11:00 AM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wanted to keep it cheap just to do a few things. Not going to be
> for
> > > > everyday use.
> > > >
> > > > Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Last year I picked up a Thinkpad T420, I think it is a 2013 model,
> for
> > > >> about $100 on eBay.  Add a new battery for $30, copy of Win7 for
> $70,
> > > nice
> > > >> SSD hard drive for another $50, and that is a really nice little
> > > machine.
> > > >> Very fast.
> > > >>
> > > >> The Win7 Pro 64 bit license key is on the sticker on the bottom of
> the
> > > >> machine, but I don't have a copy of the media to install that.  I
> > could
> > > >> have avoided paying for the Win7 Home edition that I bought.
> > > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Plasma cutters make it way too easy to do an amazing DIY job... I love
those things!

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 11:24 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Might the budget stretch to a plasma cutter?
>>>
>>> No!
>>
>> -- Jim
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>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

But if your current machine is low on RAM or HD space that is not possible..

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 11:21 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Really cheap would be using Oracle Box (free last I checked) on your
> current machine to create a virtual machine environment, then build the
> Windows machine inside, and you've got a temporary Win7 or Win10 machine
> whenever you need it.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Cheap in computing terms often doesn't include function.
> >
> > For $400+ you can get a reasonably modern, functional, machine.
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > On Feb 15, 2017 11:00 AM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I wanted to keep it cheap just to do a few things. Not going to be for
> > > everyday use.
> > >
> > > Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> Last year I picked up a Thinkpad T420, I think it is a 2013 model, for
> > >> about $100 on eBay.  Add a new battery for $30, copy of Win7 for $70,
> > nice
> > >> SSD hard drive for another $50, and that is a really nice little
> > machine.
> > >> Very fast.
> > >>
> > >> The Win7 Pro 64 bit license key is on the sticker on the bottom of the
> > >> machine, but I don't have a copy of the media to install that.  I
> could
> > >> have avoided paying for the Win7 Home edition that I bought.
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Cheap in computing terms often doesn't include function.

For $400+ you can get a reasonably modern, functional, machine.

Kyle

On Feb 15, 2017 11:00 AM, "MG via Mercedes"  wrote:

> I wanted to keep it cheap just to do a few things. Not going to be for
> everyday use.
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Last year I picked up a Thinkpad T420, I think it is a 2013 model, for
>> about $100 on eBay.  Add a new battery for $30, copy of Win7 for $70, nice
>> SSD hard drive for another $50, and that is a really nice little machine.
>> Very fast.
>>
>> The Win7 Pro 64 bit license key is on the sticker on the bottom of the
>> machine, but I don't have a copy of the media to install that.  I could
>> have avoided paying for the Win7 Home edition that I bought.
>>
>> -
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Vacuum Issues

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Sure do!!

I can send a picture to you if the vac line you can cap off if that would
help.

Have they done the soot can delete as well or just the egr?

There are also a couple of PDFs online that I used. Let me know if you
would like those also.

Kyle

On Feb 14, 2017 7:02 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Got a buddy in Alabama who has a 1985 300TD California model that has a
> partial EGR-ectomy that the PO must have undertaken.  He’s trying to sort
> some of it out but I know nothing about these things.  Anyone here know
> anything about these?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1985 Mercedes Benz 300 Turbo Diesel Wagon - PARTS CAR

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I wish it didn't cost $500 to ship it.. It would be perfect!

Kyle

On Feb 13, 2017 2:50 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Kyle - here's the answer to your search.  All the better if it has a blue
> interior.
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Paatz?
> >
> >
> > Fred Moir.
> > Lynn MA.
> > Diesel preferred.
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: nore...@craigslist.org 
> > Sent: 13 February 2017 14:19
> > To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
> > Subject: 1985 Mercedes Benz 300 Turbo Diesel Wagon - PARTS CAR
> >
> >
> > fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
> >
> > 
> > 1985 Mercedes Benz 300 Turbo Diesel Wagon - PARTS CAR
> >
> > http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/5977859172.html
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Re: [MBZ] Manfred/Kyle's Neighbor After a Night of Hookers and Blow

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

As already deleted!

Perhaps they already found a sucker?

Kyle

On Feb 13, 2017 2:30 PM, "Dan--- via Mercedes" 
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> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/6002064635.htm
>
> Translation: "I spent far too much money on this car, but I should be able
> to recoup all of it when I sell, right?"
>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

"if I have good post one then the cost is not too bad."

Should have read, if I have good pistons

Kyle

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Manfred, that is what I was thinking as well. I did some research on the
> rebuild and if I have good post one then the cost is not too bad.  I will
> think on it and keep my eyes peeled for a spare wagon.  If it is a steal it
> would be silly to pass it up.
>
> Kyle
>
> Kyle
>
> On Feb 9, 2017 2:25 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> If I was you I would look for another engine for the TD even if it
>> doesn't run. Get it real cheap and have it rebuilt. That's about $7000 or
>> so but then you have an engine that will "run a million miles". ;-) Or at
>> least you will know how a new engine runs and be the only one who has
>> worked on it from new. You can do the same with the transmission for a lot
>> less. I think around $1700 to $1900 or so from the place in California. At
>> those prices I wouldn't wait as they will only go up.
>>
>> Manfred
>>
>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> True, I am counting on the last and last part. I also want to be prepared
>>> so that in another 100k miles I have the engine/transmission to replace
>>> and
>>> get another 500k miles out of the wagon. If I love that long...
>>>
>>> Kyle
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2017 7:25 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The good news is... it is a very well made car that can last and last, if
>>>> you take good care of it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm in a similar boat with my '95 E300, which has its own collection of
>>>> unique single-model-year parts (exhaust, IP, monovalve, ...).
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Max
>>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Servicing Injectors

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Awesome!! You are on like donkey kong!
I figure in another month or so I will be ready to rebuild the injectors...

Kyle

On Feb 9, 2017 2:25 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have that bottle jack when you want to borrow it. All you'll need is the
> shims and nozzles.
>
> As a matter of fact let me know when you are ready to do them and I will
> bring it to you as I need to do a set also. We can do them at the same time
> and reduce the mess and bother.
>
> Manfred
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> He is the bottle tester I will be ordering if I choose to do the injectors
>> myself, which I most likely will.
>>
>> https://mercedessource.com/store/diesel-fuel-injector-balanc
>> e-pressure-tester-yes-you-can-do-it-yourself
>>
>> There is also a kit from him that has the shims and everything, including
>> monarch nozzles along with video\pdf instructions.
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2017 2:19 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You do NOT want to put a finger (or any other part of yourself) under a
>>> injector nozzle being tested.  In the same way that you never want to try
>>> to put a hand over a ruptured hydraulic line.  Both are very hazardous to
>>> your life.
>>>
>>> I have always sent nozzle holders out for testing/replacement/calibratio
>>> n.
>>> As most of you know, I believe in doing almost everything yourself.  I
>>> WILL
>>> not mess with an injector pump, that needs to be done on a test stand,
>>> and
>>> I will not mess with calibrating injectors, not that the nozzles are so
>>> complicated, but simply because it needs to be done so seldom.  An
>>> injection shop that tests nozzles every day can pick up nuances that I
>>> can't when I only test a set once every 10-15 years.  Right now, I think
>>> it
>>> has been about 15 years since I had nozzles tested or replaced.
>>>
>>> I know Kleb and Jaime and some others do their own, and I am not
>>> disparaging them at all.  Both do it more often than I need to. Ymmv
>>>
>>> The modified bottle jack tester is the least expensive DIY method.
>>>
>>> Larry Turner via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>
>>>> February 8, 2017 at 10:19 PM
>>>> 2000psi + Wow! A lot of pressure to work with.  I've seen some machines
>>>> on the market that read the pressure - are they hard to come by?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> February 6, 2017 at 7:27 PM
>>>> According to 07.1-137 Disassembly, cleaning, assembly and adjustment of
>>>> injection nozzles. The pressure is to be 135-143 bar for new and 120 for
>>>> used. No more then 5 bar between the highest and lowest but closer is
>>>> better. That's 1958 to 2074psi more or less. I think the ones I did a
>>>> few
>>>> years ago for my 6.5 chevy engine I got to 5 psi between the highest and
>>>> lowest. It took a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Manfred
>>>>
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>>>> February 6, 2017 at 2:25 PM
>>>> I believe opening pressures should be around 1800 psi/115 bar, and the
>>>> set should be within 50 psi or about 3.5 bar of each other.
>>>>
>>>> Those are ballpark numbers from my memory, a dangerous thing at times.
>>>>
>>>> -D
>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Manfred, that is what I was thinking as well. I did some research on the
rebuild and if I have good post one then the cost is not too bad.  I will
think on it and keep my eyes peeled for a spare wagon.  If it is a steal it
would be silly to pass it up.

Kyle

Kyle

On Feb 9, 2017 2:25 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If I was you I would look for another engine for the TD even if it doesn't
> run. Get it real cheap and have it rebuilt. That's about $7000 or so but
> then you have an engine that will "run a million miles". ;-) Or at least
> you will know how a new engine runs and be the only one who has worked on
> it from new. You can do the same with the transmission for a lot less. I
> think around $1700 to $1900 or so from the place in California. At those
> prices I wouldn't wait as they will only go up.
>
> Manfred
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> True, I am counting on the last and last part. I also want to be prepared
>> so that in another 100k miles I have the engine/transmission to replace
>> and
>> get another 500k miles out of the wagon. If I love that long...
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2017 7:25 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The good news is... it is a very well made car that can last and last, if
>>> you take good care of it.
>>>
>>> I'm in a similar boat with my '95 E300, which has its own collection of
>>> unique single-model-year parts (exhaust, IP, monovalve, ...).
>>>
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I guess I am just not used to thinking of a drive train lasting an
additional 600,000 miles in addition to the already almost 300k on it now!
Hahaha! That would be amazing to be sure! I know there are OTR truckers
that get 1 million miles on their rigs, and I am guessing their diesels are
similar engineering wise as far as robustness goes...

Just a paradigm shift in thinking for me as I am part of the throwaway
generation and have been taught to replace my car every 80k miles, or 10
years at most!

Kyle

On Feb 9, 2017 12:10 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Kyle sez:

>True, I am counting on the last and last part. I also want to be prepared
>so that in another 100k miles I have the engine/transmission to replace and
>get another 500k miles out of the wagon.

If you do proper maintenance and repairs, the wagon
should last your lifetime. The period for catastrophic failures
from manufacturing defects is long over.

You just have to stay on top of things and use premium parts
for maintenance and repairs. Rust is not an issue for
you, so no problem there.

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

True, I am counting on the last and last part. I also want to be prepared
so that in another 100k miles I have the engine/transmission to replace and
get another 500k miles out of the wagon. If I love that long...

Kyle

On Feb 8, 2017 7:25 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> The good news is... it is a very well made car that can last and last, if
> you take good care of it.
>
> I'm in a similar boat with my '95 E300, which has its own collection of
> unique single-model-year parts (exhaust, IP, monovalve, ...).
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Servicing Injectors

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

He is the bottle tester I will be ordering if I choose to do the injectors
myself, which I most likely will.

https://mercedessource.com/store/diesel-fuel-injector-balance-pressure-tester-yes-you-can-do-it-yourself

There is also a kit from him that has the shims and everything, including
monarch nozzles along with video\pdf instructions.

Kyle

On Feb 9, 2017 2:19 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> You do NOT want to put a finger (or any other part of yourself) under a
> injector nozzle being tested.  In the same way that you never want to try
> to put a hand over a ruptured hydraulic line.  Both are very hazardous to
> your life.
>
> I have always sent nozzle holders out for testing/replacement/calibration.
> As most of you know, I believe in doing almost everything yourself.  I WILL
> not mess with an injector pump, that needs to be done on a test stand, and
> I will not mess with calibrating injectors, not that the nozzles are so
> complicated, but simply because it needs to be done so seldom.  An
> injection shop that tests nozzles every day can pick up nuances that I
> can't when I only test a set once every 10-15 years.  Right now, I think it
> has been about 15 years since I had nozzles tested or replaced.
>
> I know Kleb and Jaime and some others do their own, and I am not
> disparaging them at all.  Both do it more often than I need to. Ymmv
>
> The modified bottle jack tester is the least expensive DIY method.
>
> Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>> February 8, 2017 at 10:19 PM
>> 2000psi + Wow! A lot of pressure to work with.  I've seen some machines
>> on the market that read the pressure - are they hard to come by?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
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>> MG via Mercedes 
>> February 6, 2017 at 7:27 PM
>> According to 07.1-137 Disassembly, cleaning, assembly and adjustment of
>> injection nozzles. The pressure is to be 135-143 bar for new and 120 for
>> used. No more then 5 bar between the highest and lowest but closer is
>> better. That's 1958 to 2074psi more or less. I think the ones I did a few
>> years ago for my 6.5 chevy engine I got to 5 psi between the highest and
>> lowest. It took a bit.
>>
>> Manfred
>>
>>
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>> Dan--- via Mercedes 
>> February 6, 2017 at 2:25 PM
>> I believe opening pressures should be around 1800 psi/115 bar, and the
>> set should be within 50 psi or about 3.5 bar of each other.
>>
>> Those are ballpark numbers from my memory, a dangerous thing at times.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> February 6, 2017 at 2:13 PM
>> I thought it was .5 bar. 5 bar is like 72+ psi, that seems like a lot.
>> Although, how much is injection pressure?
>> -Curt
>>
>> From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
>> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 3:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Servicing Injectors
>>
>> There is a guy on German eBay that sells Monark nozzles at very
>> competitive prices, and ships promptly. I just bought a set for the 300D
>> and they were $137.00 shipped. I got them in about a week's time from the
>> Fatherland.
>>
>> Bosch nozzles are garbage according to a couple of fuel injection people
>> I talked to.
>>
>> You can disassemble your injectors and clean or replace the nozzles, but
>> they really need to be recalibrated if you do, especially if you replace
>> the nozzles.  Insist on having the set matched to 5.0 bar or less, as the
>> farther apart they are as far as opening pressures will have a significant
>> effect on the smoothness of the idle and efficiency of the engine.
>>
>> If you've never done this before, don't have a pop tester and an almost
>> surgically clean work area you're heading for a very unpleasant result.
>>
>> -D
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Holy poop!!!

Mind blown...

The motor is a Cali... I did do the egr and can delete already but lots of
air cleaner difference.

I am guessing that a donor 85 wagon is in my future. Hahaha!

Kyle

On Feb 8, 2017 6:43 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Kyle, the SD is the "S-Class" and as you've learned there are a lot of
differences.

Your '85 version TD is unique in several ways, let's see how many I can get
right.

(1) the head for the SLS pump, any other 123 wagon engine will work.

(2) Tail lights, rear bumper lights

(3) Tailgate hardware and wiper motor with fluid reservoir

(4) Third row rear seat stuff including belts

(6) SLS rear suspension _may_ share some parts with 126 500SEL cars with
SLS, like the control valve, struts.

(7) '85 123 cars have a different injection pump with the IP timing port

(8) '85 123 cars have KLIMA relay with the AC compressor belt saving
function (does that make the AC compressor different as well, for the speed
sensor?)

(9) '85 123 cars have a different transmission from earlier 123 cars

(10) '85 123 cars have a different differential from earlier 123 cars

(11) Yours is an '85 California version?  Different air cleaner?  Other
differences for emmisions?

(12) wagons have different muffler system

(13) wagons have different fuel tank, fuel level sender

In other words, if you ever run across a wagon for parts, you'll want to
collect the parts mentioned above "just in case".

Are the 123 wagon rear doors different from sedans?

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Every 3rd for me. 15k miles. I will do them before the 50k mile goal, the
goal is trouble free driving, not maintenance free driving!

Probably good I clarify that.

Kyle

On Feb 8, 2017 5:53 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Valves are like every second oil change aren't they?
> -Curt
>
>   From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:49 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida
>
> Oh man!!! That is a ton of difference. I did not call her today as the head
> issue was enough. I am going to finish the front brakes, time the ip and
> set the valves, run the diesel purge through and then rebuild and pressure
> check the injectors. That should take care of me for another 50,000 miles
> or so!
>
> Thanks Manfred for the dose of knowledge! I really did figure they were
> mostly the same. I can see I was a bit off... Hahaha!
>
> On Feb 8, 2017 5:44 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes the head is the one major difference. You may have to change the
> > tailhousing and speedo gear drive on the transmission. The 84 SD that I
> > took the transmission out of had an electronic speedo so in order to use
> it
> > in my TD I had to change the tailhousing and the speedo drive gear from
> the
> > original TD transmission to the SD transmission. It all still works
> great.
> > I probably should have changed out the torque converter also but other
> then
> > a slightly higher stall speed it has worked fine.
> >
> > The interior parts have a lot of differences. You will not be able to use
> > the vacuum door lock parts unless you also use the electric switches and
> > the electric vacuum/pressure pump from the SD. The window winders are
> also
> > different and can be used with some modification to the lift arm ends.
> If I
> > remember correctly. switches and ACC controls are the same as well as the
> > vacuum pods for the climate control but I do believe the evaporator and
> air
> > box stuff may be different.
> >
> > Manfred
> >
> > Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Manfred!
> >>
> >> So, if I understand correctly, the difference between the om617 sedan
> and
> >> wagon motors are the heads? And that is because of the SLS pump,
> correct?
> >> That is the only "major" difference? My google search on the subject was
> >> sorely lacking in good results.
> >>
> >> From my reading the transmission and drive train are all the same, along
> >>>
> >> with the vacuum parts and the ACC, most interior door parts etc. Is that
> >> right?
> >>
> >> Kyle
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 7, 2017 5:56 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> No I don't know anything about that one. It looks kind of like one that
> >>> was for sale in the Ocala area about 2 years or so ago.
> >>> I think that one was on a farm or something.
> >>>
> >>> Manfred
> >>>
> >>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here is a local machine!  I may check it out for a spare motor and
> >>>> transmission...
> >>>>
> >>>> https://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/5993397080.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you know this car Manfred?
> >>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Oh man!!! That is a ton of difference. I did not call her today as the head
issue was enough. I am going to finish the front brakes, time the ip and
set the valves, run the diesel purge through and then rebuild and pressure
check the injectors. That should take care of me for another 50,000 miles
or so!

Thanks Manfred for the dose of knowledge! I really did figure they were
mostly the same. I can see I was a bit off... Hahaha!

On Feb 8, 2017 5:44 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes the head is the one major difference. You may have to change the
> tailhousing and speedo gear drive on the transmission. The 84 SD that I
> took the transmission out of had an electronic speedo so in order to use it
> in my TD I had to change the tailhousing and the speedo drive gear from the
> original TD transmission to the SD transmission. It all still works great.
> I probably should have changed out the torque converter also but other then
> a slightly higher stall speed it has worked fine.
>
> The interior parts have a lot of differences. You will not be able to use
> the vacuum door lock parts unless you also use the electric switches and
> the electric vacuum/pressure pump from the SD. The window winders are also
> different and can be used with some modification to the lift arm ends. If I
> remember correctly. switches and ACC controls are the same as well as the
> vacuum pods for the climate control but I do believe the evaporator and air
> box stuff may be different.
>
> Manfred
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Thanks Manfred!
>>
>> So, if I understand correctly, the difference between the om617 sedan and
>> wagon motors are the heads? And that is because of the SLS pump, correct?
>> That is the only "major" difference? My google search on the subject was
>> sorely lacking in good results.
>>
>> From my reading the transmission and drive train are all the same, along
>>>
>> with the vacuum parts and the ACC, most interior door parts etc. Is that
>> right?
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2017 5:56 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> No I don't know anything about that one. It looks kind of like one that
>>> was for sale in the Ocala area about 2 years or so ago.
>>> I think that one was on a farm or something.
>>>
>>> Manfred
>>>
>>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is a local machine!  I may check it out for a spare motor and
>>>> transmission...
>>>>
>>>> https://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/5993397080.html
>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

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After some additional readings, it is in fact way to problematic to swap
out these motors without the head exchange. Adding the electric pump, or
converting to the newer dual pump (which I have not seen a picture of
actually working) is also not a good option as I want to keep the SLS
functioning.  It appears that I will be looking for a wagon motor to
eliminate these problems.  Not that I need a motor, far from it, but I do
like to be prepared.  Now if a sedan had my blue interior, I can see where
having the extra parts would be handy, but it doesn't so I don't.

Thanks!

kyle

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> I forget why exactly, but I did try.
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> > Why?
> >
> > Sez who?
> >
> > I have not tried, but i'm thinking it CAN be done.  It mounts the same as
> > the single PS pump.  Belts and pulleys could be problematic.
> >
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >> February 7, 2017 at 9:20 PM
> >> The dual pump canNOT be retrofitted to the W123.
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

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Yeah. I am never going to disable the SLS, or ruin the car. Just want to be
prepared for the future And a spare setup seems like a smart move.

Kyle

On Feb 7, 2017 7:33 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> No, before you do that you could buy a dual pump as used on the 87 300TD.
>
> Surely somebody makes an aftermarket electric hydraulic pump that could
> use the proper fluid.
>
> Ruining the car is NOT an option
>
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>> February 7, 2017 at 2:54 PM
>> The engine will fit but you will need to disconnect the SLS and install
>> conventional rear shocks, which would be a shame.
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

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Thanks Dan!

I will give her a call tomorrow and have a conversation about the car..

Kyle

On Feb 7, 2017 7:00 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> That is correct.  The drive for the SLS pump is unique to the version of
> the OM617 used in the wagon.  Otherwise, the engine is the same as all
> others in the W123 and W126 chassis models.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Manfred!
> >
> > So, if I understand correctly, the difference between the om617 sedan and
> > wagon motors are the heads? And that is because of the SLS pump, correct?
> > That is the only "major" difference? My google search on the subject was
> > sorely lacking in good results.
> >
> > From my reading the transmission and drive train are all the same, along
> > with the vacuum parts and the ACC, most interior door parts etc. Is that
> > right?
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 7, 2017 5:56 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> No I don't know anything about that one. It looks kind of like one that
> >> was for sale in the Ocala area about 2 years or so ago.
> >> I think that one was on a farm or something.
> >>
> >> Manfred
> >>
> >> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>> Here is a local machine!  I may check it out for a spare motor and
> >>> transmission...
> >>>
> >>> https://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/5993397080.html
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I do once a year, or 12-15k miles. I am also good about having alignments
done every 2 years or 3 as needed. I have never had problems but my front
ends are always tight.

Kyle

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> I was looking at the maintenance manual for my 97 e300 and it lists tire
> rotation at 15k miles. That seems high to me, I have always done 6k miles,
> tire shops say like 5k I believe. What is your guys opinion?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Thanks Manfred!

So, if I understand correctly, the difference between the om617 sedan and
wagon motors are the heads? And that is because of the SLS pump, correct?
That is the only "major" difference? My google search on the subject was
sorely lacking in good results.

>From my reading the transmission and drive train are all the same, along
with the vacuum parts and the ACC, most interior door parts etc. Is that
right?

Kyle



On Feb 7, 2017 5:56 PM, "MG via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No I don't know anything about that one. It looks kind of like one that
> was for sale in the Ocala area about 2 years or so ago.
> I think that one was on a farm or something.
>
> Manfred
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Here is a local machine!  I may check it out for a spare motor and
>> transmission...
>>
>> https://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/5993397080.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I will do some more investigation as to what would be involved with a swap
and maybe check the car out.

Kyle



On Feb 7, 2017 3:58 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> The only difference is the head I think. If you were keeping it for a
> "spare" and assumed that the head from the old car would be okay it'd still
> be a valid idea.
> -Curt
>
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>
> Oh no!!!  I get that they were a little different, I just didn't know how
> much  Bummer.
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Motor won't work - you need the head with the built in SLS pump.  Find a
> > rusty 85 wagon if you must get another vehicle..
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
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> > > transmission...
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Oh no!!!  I get that they were a little different, I just didn't know how
much  Bummer.

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> Motor won't work - you need the head with the built in SLS pump.  Find a
> rusty 85 wagon if you must get another vehicle..
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
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> > Here is a local machine!  I may check it out for a spare motor and
> > transmission...
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> > https://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/5993397080.html
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Pretty sure they are just excited that their clock still works... As they
all should  hahaha!

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> Is the analog clock actually rare? I've never had an MB that didn't have
> one...
> -Curt
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>
> Here is a local machine!  I may check it out for a spare motor and
> transmission...
>
> https://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/5993397080.html
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[MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Here is a local machine!  I may check it out for a spare motor and
transmission...

https://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/5993397080.html

Do you know this car Manfred?

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Re: [MBZ] Secret Message For Andrew

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

The phishy is the $20 charge for shipping 2 of them.

I will be picking mine up from my local dealer.

Kyle

On Feb 7, 2017 6:31 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Yeah, I find it very difficult to believe they’re selling an OE part that
> lists for $50, wholesales for $40, for $30.  Something’s fishy here.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 2017, at 12:54 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > I'll let you know what actually arrives.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> >> Knoble via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 11:34 PM
> >> To: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >> Cc: Rick Knoble 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Secret Message For Andrew
> >>
> >> Andrew sez:
> >>
> >>> If tere are an left what guarantee is there >that it isn't a Uro or
> equivalent
> >> brand?
> >>>
> >>
> >> The Web site I posted the link to is a MERCEDES BENZ DEALERSHIP. Not
> likely
> >> to have inferior parts.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 6.3 anyone?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I talked to him and I don't think it was a scam. It seems that they started
on ebay, was attempting to sell but buyer backed out and then listed.
Seemed to speak NC Florida country english, not Nigerian or eastern
European... But it may be a scam... I never went to look.

Kyle

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> I have seen that one before, it has to be a scam, right?
>
>
> On 2/6/2017 12:22 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
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>> http://pensacola.craigslist.org/bks/5964395153.html
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>> This oughta be worth a few M100 handshakes!
>>
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 6.3 anyone?

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Ah, I see it is back. They are having a really hard time getting rid of
that one...

Kyle

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> http://pensacola.craigslist.org/bks/5964395153.html
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Sedan for Kyle or Manfred

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Oh vey!

If I had the $. And the space. And the need... Hahaha!
Kyle

On Feb 4, 2017 6:38 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> http://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/5954731698.html <
> http://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/5954731698.html>
>
> I’ve seen this for sale for a while.  I’m wondering if the ground effects
> are AMG, too bad they’re wasted on a diesel.  Those are actually worth
> something.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac OS

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

We have a poop ton of faculty running snow leopard. Lots of statistical and
genome sequencing programs they use on the older machines. Going to be a
nightmare once our main IT shuts down their access to the network

Kyle

On Feb 4, 2017 4:59 PM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
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> I hadda be dragged kicking and screaming into El Crapitan.  Still keep Snow
> Leopard on a second internal drive to run a couple older apps that aren't
> supported any more...
>
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Sierra sucks, causing our engineers no end of trouble. They changed how
> > network drives mount so our storage doesn't work. Changed something else
> so
> > our video and audio editors don't work. These are big changes and we got
> no
> > warning...
> > Apple hates it's developer community...
> > Cury
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> >   On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   HA!!!  I FINALLY found a reason to be
> > interested in the new mac OS
> > (Sierra 10.12.2.)With the update from 10.12.1 to Sierra 10.12.2 you
> > get an emote icon for .
> >
> >
> >
> > BACON!
> >
> > but nothing else.  Hardly a reason to move
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Re: [MBZ] Secret Message For Andrew

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Thats a good deal. I am going to pick up a spare or 3

Kyle

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> That's where I buy most of my dealer parts
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Feb 4, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Here's a Genuine OE Mercedes monovalve
> > insert. Less that $40
> >
> > https://www.mbdirectparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-
> lifting-magnet-0008350644
> >
> >  lifting-magnet-0008350644>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Headlight Doors

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

As far as the $15 monovalve, mine worked great up to about 1700 rpm.

Above 1700rpm the valve was forced closed by the pressure from the water
pump.

Piece of crap and If you want heat all the time you best have the dealer
part. Even if you have to call Dan's dealer and order a couple.

Kyle

On Jan 30, 2017 7:36 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> That’s the rub.
>
> The $15 part is from MTC, a place much like URO.  From what I’ve heard
> about the MTC monovalve insert, the tolerances are lousy and the rubber is
> crappy (one of the places where they’re cutting corners as it’s easy to
> do.)  When they do work they work poorly, and not for long.  As the OE ones
> are now $50, you could buy one that would last for some time or buy three
> MTC ones for three years of use.
>
> URO figured out that the W123 OE headlight doors are NLA and that the
> Bosch doors are quickly becoming unobtanium.  As a result, their price,
> which was roughly $50/each, suddenly shot up last year to around $75/each
> without any warning.
>
> A clear effort at profit taking, I’m guessing.  Can’t say as I blame them
> if the opportunity presented itself.
>
> It’s one of the few URO parts I would remotely consider allowing to touch
> my cars.  Nearly everything else they make is junk.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Jan 30, 2017, at 7:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > IF you could expect to get a year out of the $15 one (is it URO?) and
> you liked replacing them, you could buy ten for $150 and be set for a
> decade.
> > If it's URO, the cheapest way to get a decade of use is probably to buy
> OE.
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >> On January 30, 2017 at 3:15 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm still at a loss about whether to purchase the $15 monovalve or $225
> OEM
> >> part for my 123 wagon.  Can't find anything in between.  :(
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb! A W140 Diesel!

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Car is off Craigslist so either Dan got a new car or someone else did!

Kyle

On Jan 30, 2017 7:07 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Just like the early aluminum block Vegas, virtually all of them outlasted
> the factory warranty by a good margin.
>
> I can't remember if there was a lawsuit, but when Ford had a similar issue
> with 3.8L head gaskets except it was from warped heads not gasket design,
> they did an official program to extend the warranty to 6 years or 100k.
> Mine lost its front gasket at about 130k and six years, the rear gasket a
> year or two later at 160k. The 2nd time around I had time to pull both
> heads and have them milled flat and a valve job done like I should have
> done in the first place. I just find it easy to be lazy when laziness saves
> me (temporarily in this case) from pulling the rear head on a transverse
> Vee engine. I hate V6s and V8s turned sideways.
>
> Was Wilton's rodbender still under warranty when it ate its timing chain,
> or did it get fixed under a goodwill policy? (IIRC MBUSA did admit to a
> bunch of defective timing chains in the early 1990s)
>
> Mitch.
>
> > On January 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I seem to recall this list saying all the W140s with diesel engines will
> > fail with the #1 or #2 cylinder going oval or some other terminal
> > problem - how did MB manage to keep the problem becoming a forced Recall
> > of all affected cars?  Was it a time limit thing?
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Re: [MBZ] No love for the diamond blue W123 coupe on BAT auction

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

With the talk going on in the comments about Katrina and a possible flood
car it is not surprising.

Kyle

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>
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Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I have seen a couple of those when I was first researching MB's. I will do
a more through review when I am back at work in a week!

Kyle

On Jan 29, 2017 2:23 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Better yet, just go to Pierre’s YouTube channel at:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDTOh7Fk-QSSpi24UJIcs5A/featured
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good!  If you look on the thomaspolk website, he as a whole bunch of
> movies of Pierre and MB cars.
> >
> >> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> January 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM
> >> Awesome thanks!
> >>
> >> Kyle
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] one for Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Awesome thanks!

Kyle

On Jan 29, 2017 2:01 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
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> If you didn't already find it:
>
> http://www.thomaspolk.net/mercedes-benz/2015/12/4/new-video
>
> Removing 123 bumpers
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Nope. Pretty sure I either screwed up the seal or the tension spring popped
off or it is just a bad one.  I just did the axles so pretty sure I screwed
up the drivers side. Will be ordering a new one and repairing it next week.
Bummer.

Kyle

On Jan 29, 2017 8:42 AM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Is there a new thread about Kyle's leaking diff?
> --
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> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On January 28, 2017 5:21:58 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
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> >
> >Now if my rear diff leak settles out We can both be happy! Hahaha!
> >
> >Kyle
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Probably a tired exciter circuit... You got it a little hot and bothered
and all is good with her now...

Happy for you!

Now if my rear diff leak settles out We can both be happy! Hahaha!

Kyle

On Jan 28, 2017 5:11 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
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> I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 Jetta
> on the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and installed a used
> one, PITA job, the engine bay is tight and I think the alternator was
> probably original at 279,000 miles. These have an interesting one way
> clutch that I had to transfer to the replacement, glad I ordered the tool
> to remove it...
> Anyway when I got it all installed it didn't work, the idiot light was
> still on and battery voltage measured around 12.5v. I was pretty defeated
> at that point. A little later I had to move the car so I could push some
> snow (well ice really) off the driveway, the first time I revved the engine
> the light went out...Not to look a gift horse in the mouth I used the car
> to go over to the park to walk the dog, idiot light stayed out, heater fan
> ran, seat heater on.
> When I got home I put the meter on with the engine running, 14.8v just
> like you'd expect.
> Is this something I should have expected? I don't remember going through
> this before but its been a few years since I've changed an alternator.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] This is nice

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

The best color combo in the world! Looks anazing!

Kyle

On Jan 27, 2017 7:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

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>
> 1978 Mercedes 300D - Amazing condition
> http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5978437270.html
>
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> Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Coupe for Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

True OK Don...

Better a Benz than drugs... I probably would sell my body for a new
injection pump, installed, and tuned injectors tho... But I have my limits!
Hahahah

Kyle

On Jan 23, 2017 5:39 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

Yup. you're addicted now . . . it's a slippery slope and all down hill from
here. "Need" has nothing to do with it!

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
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> Oh your killing me!!! Want but don't need...
>
> There is actually an old MB sedan on the side of a county road out this
> way. Not sure what it is but have a friend taking pictures and getting the
> number tomorrow... We shall see.
>
> Kyle
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Coupe for Kyle

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Oh your killing me!!! Want but don't need...

There is actually an old MB sedan on the side of a county road out this
way. Not sure what it is but have a friend taking pictures and getting the
number tomorrow... We shall see.

Kyle

On Jan 23, 2017 3:02 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> Here's one close to home:
>
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5972159056.html
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] random trump fan

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

NEVER!

Sorry boys. I would not molest a beautiful wagon like what I have

Kyle

On Jan 23, 2017 11:42 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe not, but he's getting there...
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Back on post, I think this is what Kyle has planned for Andrew's old
> wagon?
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > AAnybody else catch this? Washington post or the NY times I think.
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] I used to smoke crack but I moved on to meth and heroin

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

The car phone is AWESOME!!!

Not too sure about the army man glued by the shifter

Kyle

On Jan 21, 2017 5:31 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5969387729.html
>
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] Hip Hip Hooray!

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Truth Kyle

Snip - Trump isn't going to do anything, he's just hauling in a new bunch
of crap to put into the swamp. Same old swamp, new crap birds living in it.

-Curt

  From: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 12:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hip Hip Hooray!

IT IS UP TO US to hold our congresscritters feet to the fire, or to REPLACE
THEM!  Our work is NOT over, our work of pressuring congress and local
goobers to do the right thing IS JUST BEGINNING!

Make no mistake about it, OUR WORK HAS TO BEGIN NOW!


   Curt Raymond via Mercedes  January 20, 2017 at 11:16 AM  Yeah right,
he's got a congress that basically hates him. This is going to be more of
the same.
That said I'm doing my best to keep an open mind. Maybe what we need is a
president that everybody hates. Ideally somebody who will make the tough
choices that need doing but stuff that somebody who is trying to stay
popular would never do...
-Curt

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Amen






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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Yep. Truth.

Kyle

On Jan 19, 2017 5:45 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Tinman, BRADLEY Manning is still a dude. A messed up in the head with
>> psychiatric problems man who is most certainly not any type of Red pill or
>> MRA or MGTOW.
>>
> Shoulda been hung. or shot.  Only 30¢ to eliminate the problem before he
> decided he was an "it" and before obummer turned the traitor loose on us.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Oh, Red pill is the opposite of the 90's to current era bromance types.
More like men being men. Being the head of household, taking care of
themselves, placing themselves first, knocking the feminist modern woman
off her pedestal. The Mr. Cleaver of the modern age. Totally opposite of
the March on DC demanding rights for sissy boys sissified man of the
millennium

True, no women here and very few on the forums that I read having to do
with cars

Tinman, BRADLEY Manning is still a dude. A messed up in the head with
psychiatric problems man who is most certainly not any type of Red pill or
MRA or MGTOW.

No idea about the Comrade.

Kyle

On Jan 19, 2017 5:27 PM, "Mountain Man via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Max wrote:
> I think chairman Mao has cornered the market on "No illusions about his
> fellow man" on this list.

Eh? - Probably more like... dense / clueless - be honest, insult can
be weathered here, explain?
Masculine Men's movement? - count me out.  Is that like... BroForce?
or, a march-on-washington group action... yeah, still count me out.
OkieBenz is all very nice, entirely, and self moderated.  Maybe we
need some women DIY Benz women?  Did we ever have woman reading
okiebenz?  no, Chelsea Manning types don't cut it.
tin-man

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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

It is also a huge segment of the masculine mens movement.

Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 7:31 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" 
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> ‎Max ponders:
>
> >‎What's "the Red pill"?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

A reference to the choice Nero made in the movie The Matrix.

Blue pill, you go back to your version of reality like nothing happened.

Red pill, you see the world as it really is and everything changes for you.
You can never go back after taking the Red pill.

Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 7:23 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> What's "the Red pill"?
> --
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> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On January 18, 2017 6:42:38 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for everyone,
> >but
> >apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are
> >already
> >part\mostly there.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

You know the government is always looking for the next\new way to bind
people to the system and make them tax paying wage slaves. Student loans
and the college requirement is just the latest in a long line of scandalous
rip offs.

I used to tell young men to join the military, no more. Now I suggest trade
school, welders, auto mechanics, plumbers, a.c. tech's. All great paying
jobs where they can remain debt free and live within their means.

All in all, if my job at the University of Florida was not paying for
school, I would not be attending.

Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for everyone, but
apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are already
part\mostly there.

Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 4:56 PM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" 
wrote:

True that.  Student loans are not discharged by bankruptcy.  Also, speaking
from firsthand experience (idiot grandson#2) these loans are handed out
with no regard for scholastic ability or likelihood of repayment.  The
interest rates are obscene (3.76-6.31%) for today's environment.  And these
loans are guaranteed by the government (that's us) so the lenders can't
lose, just like the home loans underwritten by Fannie May and Freddie Mac
or bundled and sold.   Is this a big and growing problem?  Just look at the
data:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FGCCSAQ027S

I haven't been a student in a civilian university since the 80s so I don't
really know what goes on there.  But it's easy to conclude from many, many
reports that the liberal arts colleges have become the cesspool of higher
education.

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>
> There is two ways of discharging student loan.
> ‎Pay it.
> ‎Die.
> The student loan millstone around the necks of our youth is going nowhere
> soon. More than likely, as aging boomers pass, their estates will be used
> (garnished?) to pay off their children's student loans.
>
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Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I am not sure which is the scam.  I did email the CL ad that Dan posted and
it appeared to be a real person, but their Engrish sucked and they couldn't
type a real sentence.  They also said their wife had posted the car on Ebay
and that someone wanted to buy it and so they took the ad down.

I feel that it is a scam of some sort, but I just don't know what.  The
"husband" is saying the car is over by Pensacola, but either way, it is too
much money to invest in a car for me.  I am going to look for a sweet
little project for myself next year.

Kyle

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> How does the scam work?
>
> -
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Re: [MBZ] Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Max,
Your posts are so incredibly helpful to me!  Keep the faith and set some
time aside for you and your baby to get together and back in shape!  I
don't have kids, but I do have a farm, part time college, full time work,
and a wife with a horse. hahaha!  I get the time part perfectly.

Rick,
I have been a facilitator at some of his classes in my town.  Always happy
to help someone cut up their CC's and get their minds right.  I have fallen
a little bit, and actually fell for the finance a car bit 2 years ago with
my then new wife, but with the TDI buyback I am able to get back on track
and be out of debt shortly.

kyle



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> Kyle sez:
>
> >‎That is true, but most of these people will >also be living in bondage
> their
> >entire lives, slaves to the system. That is >something I am no longer
> >willing to do and have taken drastic >measures to make sure I never do.
>
> Sounds like you listen to Dave Ramsey.
>
> ‎https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QTrTe1SAw8=em
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM2XAzJh4Ew=em
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Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

truth

kyle

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> Google Image Search can be your friend sometimes...
> Mitch
>
> > On January 18, 2017 at 12:17 PM Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Oh so BUSTED!!!
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Scam
> > > http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/mercedes-benz/174167-1969-
> > > mercedes-benz-300series-300sel-63-barn-find-original-
> > > collector-no-reserve.html
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Re: [MBZ] Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

You know that is exactly what the Government and big business wants.

But when do either of those entities have your best interests in mind?
Ever?

I always ask myself this one question now.

What if what they are telling me is a lie?  Who benefits from my believing
this lie?  What do I have to do if I don't believe the lie?

They are all lying to us.  Every day and about everything.

Kyle

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:15 PM, MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> When you get right down to it isn't that what the manufacturers and the
> gov want?
>
>
> Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On 17/01/2017 6:34 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Filled by idjits, America struggles on.
>>>
>>> Anyone who can't get 0.something percent would be better off saving some
>>> money and paying cash for a $1500 car and waiting to pay off their debt.
>>>
>>> But don't listen to logic... Stupid Americans want a new car...
>>>
>>> Kyle
>>>
>>>
>> Maybe, but, cheap cars cause trouble and most people are unable or
>> unwilling to do any work on them - especially true of the newer vehicles
>> with complicated systems.
>> Taking a car to a garage these days will usually cost close to a $1K even
>> if it is not a major failure.
>> People therefore find it easier to lease or buy a cheap new car and make
>> a monthly payment that never goes away. They essentially rent a car forever
>> but they have reliable transportation and for the most part, known costs.
>>
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Oh so BUSTED!!!

Kyle

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> Scam
> http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/mercedes-benz/174167-1969-
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Re: [MBZ] Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

That is true, but most of these people will also be living in bondage their
entire lives, slaves to the system.  That is something I am no longer
willing to do and have taken drastic measures to make sure I never do.
But, I am also willing at the tender age of 48 to go to college, finally,
and to also learn what I need to know to fix my own house, cars (which I
have always done), and anything else that needs doing on the farm.  Self
sufficiency has never looked so good!

I also understand that most people believe the lie that consumerism sells
them.  Bigger house, newer car, shiny things to make themselves beautiful
and keep up with the Jones's.  All at the low, low price of your entire
working life.

Kyle

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> On 17/01/2017 6:34 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Filled by idjits, America struggles on.
>>
>> Anyone who can't get 0.something percent would be better off saving some
>> money and paying cash for a $1500 car and waiting to pay off their debt.
>>
>> But don't listen to logic... Stupid Americans want a new car...
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>>
> Maybe, but, cheap cars cause trouble and most people are unable or
> unwilling to do any work on them - especially true of the newer vehicles
> with complicated systems.
> Taking a car to a garage these days will usually cost close to a $1K even
> if it is not a major failure.
> People therefore find it easier to lease or buy a cheap new car and make a
> monthly payment that never goes away. They essentially rent a car forever
> but they have reliable transportation and for the most part, known costs.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

If not I want it!
Hahahaha!
Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 9:34 AM, "Dan--- via Mercedes" 
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> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5964408526.html
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Re: [MBZ] Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Filled by idjits, America struggles on.

Anyone who can't get 0.something percent would be better off saving some
money and paying cash for a $1500 car and waiting to pay off their debt.

But don't listen to logic... Stupid Americans want a new car...

Kyle

On Jan 17, 2017 7:31 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Like 8% I believe. That probably assumes perfect credit.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 6:29 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > If you want to pay it off in 48 months you need to make much bigger
> paymentsWhat was the interest rate?
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
> >  Original message From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  Date: 2017-01-17  6:14 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
> Subject: [MBZ] Stealers
> > I am watching the news and a local dealer has a tv commercial offering
> new 2017 Nissan Titans for $349 and month for 48 months. Hmm, that sounds
> like a payment from the old days. So I pause the TV to read the fine print.
> After 48 months you own 51% of MSRP ballon payment. Wow, what kind of moron
> would do that deal. So you pay payments then still own about $20k at the
> end.
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Re: [MBZ] 420SEL

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Grayhound.  The poor man's airplane.

Kyle

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Epic tale - and as a bonus it was totally devoid of political content!
> Congrats!!
>
> What is "riding the dog"?
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > I thought tank screen first, but since it had good pressure and flow at
> > the dist, fuel appears to be getting past the fuel screen.  New Fuel
> pumps
> > seemed to be running normally. (not starving)
> >
> > Screen at dist, Dist/injectors...  good possibility of costing more than
> > the car, except the screen.
> >
> > Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> >> January 17, 2017 at 8:08 AM
> >> I'm thinking rust in the gas tank, stirred up by the driving and then
> >> adding fresh gas.
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