Q: Why no replies to my post??
I posted this question yesterday and have had no replies or follow-ups. Does that mean that no-one else has this problem? Or that loads of people have the problem and they can't solve it either?? I find it hard to believe that either of those explanations is true. I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response! Thanks, Dave. - Hello Mutt people, Something that's been bugging me over the last few days/weeks since I upgraded from Mutt 1.2.x to Mutt 1.3.x - "special" characters aren't displayed properly. e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for most of you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3). This behaviour is with all versions 1.3.7 to 1.3.9, and I assume it's something to do with the iconv setup, although this support is compiled in properly as far as I can tell: Mutt 1.3.9i (2000-09-21) Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.2.17 [using ncurses 4.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS -HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail" SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc" EXECSHELL="/bin/sh" -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. This is definitely a problem I having with the Mutt pager, since if I reply to a message, the pound sign appears correctly in the editor, presumably because Vim is displaying it, not Mutt. I tried recompiling with the --enable-locales-fix option, but that resulted in the same behaviour. What am I doing wrong? I am running Mutt in an Eterm under KDE, if that's useful info, and I get the same behaviour in a Konsole. In all circumstances, Mutt 1.2.5 works fine. Dave. - Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK PGP signature
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
Dave Ewart wrote: I posted this question yesterday and have had no replies or follow-ups. Does that mean that no-one else has this problem? Or that loads of people have the problem and they can't solve it either?? I find it hard to believe that either of those explanations is true. I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response! i can only answer for myself of course :) but i haven't used 1.3.9 yet and upon seeing your post, thought i'd wait for the answer to arrive before installing 1.3.9 :) raf
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 20:13 +1100, raf wrote: Dave Ewart wrote: I posted this question yesterday and have had no replies or follow-ups. Does that mean that no-one else has this problem? Or that loads of people have the problem and they can't solve it either?? I find it hard to believe that either of those explanations is true. I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response! i can only answer for myself of course :) but i haven't used 1.3.9 yet and upon seeing your post, thought i'd wait for the answer to arrive before installing 1.3.9 :) :-) Interesting - but the problem seems to be common to every version in the 1.3.x series that I've tried (1.3.7, 1.3.8 and 1.3.9). Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK PGP signature
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
Submitted 26-Sep-00 by Dave Ewart: I find it hard to believe that either of those explanations is true. It hits me intermittently, yes on some builds, not on others. So I don't have a guaranteed fix. I can't even tell you what makes it happen, since I use the same options for every build (I build an rpm of each release using the same spec file). I can tell you that my current 1.3.8 build doesn't have the problem, but my first 1.3.7 did. -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSA key available upon request Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is too dark to read. PGP signature
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 02:31 -0700, Anton Graham wrote: Submitted 26-Sep-00 by Dave Ewart: I find it hard to believe that either of those explanations is true. It hits me intermittently, yes on some builds, not on others. So I don't have a guaranteed fix. I can't even tell you what makes it happen, since I use the same options for every build (I build an rpm of each release using the same spec file). I can tell you that my current 1.3.8 build doesn't have the problem, but my first 1.3.7 did. How bizarre - after you wrote this, I just tried rebuilding the 1.3.8 tree, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. Can you post a "mutt -v" of both a working and a non-working build? Or are they definitely the same? Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK PGP signature
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for most of you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3). Set your locale properly. If that doesn't help, compile with --enable-locales-fix.
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 11:01 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for most of you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3). Set your locale properly. If that doesn't help, compile with --enable-locales-fix. Thanks for the suggestion, Lars. How do I set my locale? [My original posting already stated that I tried recompiling with --enable-locales-fix, which made no difference.] Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK PGP signature
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
Dave Ewart writes: On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 11:01 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for most of you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3). Set your locale properly. If that doesn't help, compile with --enable-locales-fix. Thanks for the suggestion, Lars. How do I set my locale? Setting LC_CTYPE should be enough. Example: in general, I prefer a C locale, but occasionally I do need certain non-ascii characters. So here's what I am using: $ grep LC_ ~/.muttrc set editor="LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 vi" set pager="LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 less -ceiM +Gg" $ Works nicely: £ Å Ë Ø ç í etc. A different solution, which can be implemented with a wrapper script or aliases: $ LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 mutt # Bourne/Korn $ env LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 mutt # Csh and friends Or simply set the correct locale permanently in your environment (Solaris/CDE allows you to choose the locale on login if all the necessary files are installed).
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:38:49 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote: I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response! Well, one of the reasons could be that you post about problems with Mutt 1.3.x here at the mutt-users list. The 1.3.x series are development versions which are not considered ready for common use, and questions about these should be discussed at the mutt-dev list. Another reason could very well be that nobody here have seen this problem or can explain why you have it. I can not either, but I presume that it would be interessting to know (on the mutt-dev list): - the value of the $charset variable - the charset indication of the messages which doesn't show correctly - the current locale - the used libc or libiconv versions -- Byrial http://home.worldonline.dk/~byrial/
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 13:08 +0200, Byrial Jensen wrote: On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:38:49 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote: I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response! Well, one of the reasons could be that you post about problems with Mutt 1.3.x here at the mutt-users list. The 1.3.x series are development versions which are not considered ready for common use, and questions about these should be discussed at the mutt-dev list. Yes, that's a good point, I'll try that. My feeling is that quite a large number of people _are_ using the development versions, though ... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK PGP signature
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 11:34 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: Dave Ewart writes: On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 11:01 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for most of you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3). Set your locale properly. If that doesn't help, compile with --enable-locales-fix. Thanks for the suggestion, Lars. How do I set my locale? Setting LC_CTYPE should be enough. Example: in general, I prefer a C locale, but occasionally I do need certain non-ascii characters. So here's what I am using: $ grep LC_ ~/.muttrc set editor="LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 vi" set pager="LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 less -ceiM +Gg" ... I think my problem is with the Mutt internal pager not displaying stuff right, since all other aspects involve using the editor Vim, and characters display correctly. Your external pager will mean that the internal pager is never used. Given a suggestion from someone else, I am going to see if anyone on the Mutt-Dev list can shed any light on to this ... Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 02:46:21PM +0100, Dave Ewart wrote: My feeling is that quite a large number of people _are_ using the development versions, though ... Just because many people use a development version it doesn't follow that they don't report problems on the development list. You'd expect people who are testing the development version to actually *use* it in places other than the developers mailing list. , | davep@hagbard:~$grep "^User-Agent.*Mutt/1\.3" Mail/mutt | wc -l | 277 | davep@hagbard:~$grep "^User-Agent.*Mutt/1\.2" Mail/mutt | wc -l | 673 ` -- Take a look in Hagbard's World: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.hagbard.demon.co.uk/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards http://www.acemake.com/hagbard/ | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility Free software, including| muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On 2000-09-26 14:48:35 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote: I think my problem is with the Mutt internal pager not displaying stuff right, since all other aspects involve using the editor Vim, and characters display correctly. Your external pager will mean that the internal pager is never used. Given a suggestion from someone else, I am going to see if anyone on the Mutt-Dev list can shed any light on to this ... You still owe us your $charset variable's setting. -- Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 16:11 +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 2000-09-26 14:48:35 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote: I think my problem is with the Mutt internal pager not displaying stuff right, since all other aspects involve using the editor Vim, and characters display correctly. Your external pager will mean that the internal pager is never used. Given a suggestion from someone else, I am going to see if anyone on the Mutt-Dev list can shed any light on to this ... You still owe us your $charset variable's setting. Ah, yes, sorry ... $charset in my .muttrc is: set charset="iso-8859-1" Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK
imap_checkinterval
Has the imap_checkinterval variable disappeared? I just moved to version 1.3.9 (not voluntarily, hy home directory got zapped here) and I'm getting an error about imap_checkinterval. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Content-Disposition
Bruce DeVisser wrote: ^D on the compose menu toggles this, under Mutt 1.2.5i. (If I hit ? in the compose menu, it's the very first keybinding described. :) Great! I just upgraded and really like this feature. Now I am wondering how I can set the default of disposition to I(nline). I can't find anything about that in the manual. Is there a way? Thanks a lot, Andy. -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://andy.spiegl.de PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~ "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." - Unknown
Re: Content-Disposition
On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Andy Spiegl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce DeVisser wrote: ^D on the compose menu toggles this, under Mutt 1.2.5i. (If I hit ? in the compose menu, it's the very first keybinding described. :) Great! I just upgraded and really like this feature. Now I am wondering how I can set the default of disposition to I(nline). I can't find anything about that in the manual. Is there a way? Well, you can set a compose macro to inline after adding. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: Content-Disposition
Well, you can set a compose macro to inline after adding. Ehmm, sounds like a good idea, but how do I do that? Sorry for the stupid question, Andy. -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://andy.spiegl.de PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~ Mixed Emotions: Watching your mother-in-law back off a cliff in your brand new Mercedes.
Incorrect encoding of letter's headings
Hello, All! When I write the subject of my letter in russian (koi8-r encoding), the following transformation occurs with letters of the "Subject" field: Subject: =?koi8-r?B?9MXT1CDS1dPTy8/HzyDawcfPzM/Xy8E=?= What's the problem? And how can I solve it? Thanks Good-bye! -- WBR WBW, Vitaly.
asked many times
I have a question that has been asked many times, but I don't think it really has been answered: When replying to a mail how can I set the From: header line so that it corresponds to the To: address of the mail I am replying to? So far it's easy (reverse_name and set_from), but when _not_ replying, I want to use From: headers that correspond to the recipient of the new mail. Here is an example: When I write a new mail to the mutt-mailinglist I want From: to be: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But when I get a mail from someone who sent it to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I want From: to be "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I tried it this way: send-hook '~C mutt-' 'my_hdr From: Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]' but then reverse_name doesn't work. So I tried: send-hook '~C mutt-' 'set from="Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]"' but then from is set for the next mail, not for the current one. *argh* How did you guys solve this dilemma? Thanks a lot in advance, Andy. -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://andy.spiegl.de PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~ Sweater, n.: A garment worn by a child when its mother feels chilly.
Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:38:49AM +0100, Dave Ewart wrote: [..] I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response! [..] I seem to recall I grumbled about a similar thing awhile back (also development series), and nothing anyone suggested worked for me. So I suffer through it when it happens. Or pipe it through "more" if I'm curious. My scenario being that sitting at a Linux box running X, xterms running sessions locally accented chars as "?", but xterms running sessions on a Solaris box display accented chars properly. Twiddling with locale settings or using --enable-locales-fix, neither seems to work. The *only* obvious thing I've found is differing versions of ncurses (4.2 on Linux, 5.0 on Solaris) and (a) I'm not root, so I can't upgrade the Linux one and (b) I ran into all sorts of grief (don't remember what it was, but I get the shakes thinking about it) trying to install my own copy. I'd love to hear some insights. Ben -- Benjamin KorvemakerA printer consists of three main [EMAIL PROTECTED] parts: the case, the jammed paper tray and the blinking red light. PGP signature
Re: asked many times
On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Andy Spiegl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I tried: send-hook '~C mutt-' 'set from="Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]"' but then from is set for the next mail, not for the current one. *argh* This is good and correct. How did you guys solve this dilemma? You need to define a send-hook matching anything, with precedence over this send-hook, which resets $from to a default value. For example, I have this in my muttrc: send-hook '.' 'unmy_hdr Reply-To:' send-hook '~C postmaster@uchicago' 'my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' The first one unsets Reply-To: for any send, then passes on to the second. The second one sets Reply-To: for any mail to our postmaster address (which forwards to me). Not quite the same as setting $from, but close enough to illustrate. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: imap_checkinterval
On Tuesday, 26 September 2000 at 15:58, Chris Green wrote: Has the imap_checkinterval variable disappeared? I just moved to version 1.3.9 (not voluntarily, hy home directory got zapped here) and I'm getting an error about imap_checkinterval. it's been eradicated. You can use a combination of $timeout and $mail_check to get similar results. $mail_check controls how often your "mailboxes" are checked, and $timeout controls the minimum time to poll the current mailbox. I use $mail_check of 90 and $timeout of 15, personally. These changes cleaned up the code path and are more intuitive (use old, documented variables, don't have to worry about strange interactions between the three), unless you happen to be used to imap_checkinterval, of course :) -Brendan PGP signature
Re: message's important flag
On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Lukas Schroeder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyways, besides this beautiful '!' next to the message, does a set important flag of a set of messages trigger any additional useful functionality like easy switching via repeated TAB-punching or something? Sure, if you say: macro index tab "search~Fenter" "Find next flagged message" :) TAB finds the next (N)ew message by default. I also have a "color" line to highlight my flagged messages in red, and this procmail rule to process messages the sender tagged as urgent: :0 f * ^(Importance: High|Priority: Urgent) | ${FORMAIL} -I "X-Status: F" Now when PC users make a message important, it comes into my mailbox in red with the "!" on. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: Content-Disposition
On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Andy Spiegl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you can set a compose macro to inline after adding. Ehmm, sounds like a good idea, but how do I do that? Sorry for the stupid question, Andy. Actually, I think it was a bad idea. I guess you can't macro an interactive text entry *and* keystrokes that come afterward. You have to pre-assign the entered text, or stop with the symbol that invokes the text entry. It wouldn't be a bad feature to add, though -- some special token meaning "wait for enter, then proceed with macro processing". -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: message's important flag
I'd like to get this working too. On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:17:39PM -0500, David Champion wrote: macro index tab "search~Fenter" "Find next flagged message" TAB finds the next (N)ew message by default. OK, I got that. I also have a "color" line to highlight my flagged messages in red, and I've tried, but can't get how to do this. Can you please elucidate? this procmail rule to process messages the sender tagged as urgent: :0 f * ^(Importance: High|Priority: Urgent) | ${FORMAIL} -I "X-Status: F" And I've added this. -- -- | THKS : | Federated Insurance | | Jeff Howie | Information Systems - PC | | Int Programmer/Analyst | 204.786.6431.x.217| --
Re: Content-Disposition
David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2000: It wouldn't be a bad feature to add, though -- some special token meaning "wait for enter, then proceed with macro processing". That kind of function would solve a lot of macro problems. But, actually, I think the person is asking how to set the content-disposition of an attachement to "inline". This is not done with edit-type (^T) rather than with a separate function, toggle-disposition (^D). No need to macro that. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / Don't force it, use a bigger hammer.
Re: asked many times
David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2000: send-hook '~C mutt-' 'set from="Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]"' but then from is set for the next mail, not for the current one. *argh* This is good and correct. Uhh, no. You can't use $from with send-hooks, because as the person posting noticed, the $from only comes into effect for the next email. You have to use "my_hdr From:" if you want to change the From line from send-hooks. Not sure if that's what you were talking about, or not. :-) Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / Did you know that the word "gullible" is not in the dictionary?
xterm window resizing
Hi all. I've noticed a really annoying problem, that I can't seem to be able to resize the xterm that is running mutt. I've experienced affects from mutt just not going aloong with the new size, to mutt crashing after hitting 'y' to send a new message (then I have to go back in check to make sure it really did send it). I searched back thru the archives, and it seems that a possible fix is having to link against a new version of ncurses or slang. Is this still the only fix for this, or am I off on the wrong track? If this is right, then what would be considered 'new' versions of these libraries? I'm running Caldera 2.4, X 3.3.3.1b, mutt 1.0i -- -- | THKS : | Federated Insurance | | Jeff Howie | Information Systems - PC | | Int Programmer/Analyst | 204.786.6431.x.217| --
Re: asked many times
On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mikko Hänninen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2000: send-hook '~C mutt-' 'set from="Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]"' but then from is set for the next mail, not for the current one. *argh* This is good and correct. Uhh, no. You can't use $from with send-hooks, because as the person posting noticed, the $from only comes into effect for the next email. You have to use "my_hdr From:" if you want to change the From line from send-hooks. Not sure if that's what you were talking about, or not. :-) OK, I've never actually tried using $from in a send-hook, and was unaware of that issue. I was thinking of the general approach, not the specific hook command. (Oops.) -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: xterm window resizing
And as an after-thought (I know, it should have been my first thought), but I just upgraded to the latest stable release, 1.2.5 (latest right?). Same problem, though. On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:55:58PM -0500, Jeff Howie wrote: Hi all. I've noticed a really annoying problem, that I can't seem to be able to resize the xterm that is running mutt. I've experienced affects from mutt just not going aloong with the new size, to mutt crashing after hitting 'y' to send a new message (then I have to go back in check to make sure it really did send it). I searched back thru the archives, and it seems that a possible fix is having to link against a new version of ncurses or slang. Is this still the only fix for this, or am I off on the wrong track? If this is right, then what would be considered 'new' versions of these libraries? I'm running Caldera 2.4, X 3.3.3.1b, mutt 1.0i -- -- | THKS : | Federated Insurance | | Jeff Howie | Information Systems - PC | | Int Programmer/Analyst | 204.786.6431.x.217| -- -- -- | THKS : | Federated Insurance | | Jeff Howie | Information Systems - PC | | Int Programmer/Analyst | 204.786.6431.x.217| --
About PGP public key service. (With P.S.)
I heard that people have troubles with public PGP key service. That's why I'd like to introduce the way I did it myself. I hope that this info will be helpful for someone. -- 1) In ~/.procmailrc: :0 * ^Subject: publicpgpkey | /home/eugene/bin/publicpgpkey "`formail -x 'From: '`" 2) /home/eugene/bin/publicpgpkey: #!/bin/sh KEYRING=/home/eugene/.pgp/pubring.pkr PUBLIC=/tmp/publicpgpkey USERID=Eugene if [ "$1" == "--help" ] ; then echo "Public PGP key utility." echo "Usage: $0 [e-mail]" echo "e-mail: To send public PGP key to a particular e-mail." exit 0 fi pgp -kxa $USERID $PUBLIC $KEYRING /dev/null 21 if [ ! -n "$1" ] ; then cat $PUBLIC rm -f $PUBLIC exit 0 fi mail "$1" -s "Public PGP key of Eugene Paskevich" $PUBLIC if [ ! "`cat /proc/$PPID/cmdline`" == "-bash" ] ; then echo `date ; echo "$1"` /home/eugene/.pgp/people fi rm -f $PUBLIC - Now one can make changes for him/herself and be happy. P.S. There are two things I still can't understand. 1) Why do people post here signed messages. I think there's no need in it. 2) If they sign their messages they suppose that someone have their public key to verify signature. Where can I get it? From public server of keys? {I don't remember the correct name.} Again, there is no need in these servers. 'couse noone would ask for public key of an unknown man just to verify a signature. It's a stupid idea as for me. -- Eugene Paskevich | *==(--- | "Alrighty then!" [EMAIL PROTECTED]| ---)==* |-- Ace Venture Public PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=publicpgpkey {Mutt 1.2.4i}Moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be afraid. ;) ## Eternal nothingness is fine if you happen to be dressed for it. -- Woody Allen ##
prompting Fcc
hi all, I'm looking for being prompted for where to save outgoing messages. I know about 'record' and 'copy' variables, which set where and whether to save or not, or ask. ('force_name' and 'save_name' just set the mailboxe name for each message.) I also know the 'f' command in compose menu, and the 'fcc-hook' commande in .muttrc. But I would like to be prompted for the place where to save the outgoing message any time I send one. does anybody know something about that? thanks. -- Richard Hitier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02 38 72 50 59 http://groz.free.fr/ (Orléans)
sending mail
Maybe I shoud have sent this to mutt-users... I am just starting to use mutt, and noticed something : it is quite hard to configure when you have an email adress different from your unix account. Generally, you end up using the sendmail "-f" switch, but in a case like this you get an "Authentication-Warning" with some mail agents like postfix (as you can see in the headers of this message). I did not check very far, but apparently some other programs take the approach of sending mail by communicating with sendmail via the port 25, and not by calling it directly. Apparently, they avoid the -f switch, and thus the warning. xfmail takes this approach. But maybe I did something wrong ? -- Emmanuel Anne - ABS Tél : 01 55 04 84 90 email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] site web : http://www.absysteme.fr
Re: About PGP encryption
Bob Bell [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] asserted: On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 08:57:09PM +0300, Eugene Paskevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very nice but I'd like my signature to be changed every time I compose a new message. Not every session of mutt. If you read the manual, you'll discover that if $signature ends with a pipe ("|"), then it is run as a program and the output is used as your signature. That's what I do. Same here. Works a treat ;-} [...] -- Paul A. Cheshire | A great nation is any mob of people which produces [EMAIL PROTECTED] | at least one honest man a century. No fences?| No Gates necessary. | PGP signature
Aborted unmodified message.
Hi there, I just re-installed vim on my system. When I now try to compose a message after I enter the name of the recipient mutt does not allow me to write a message. Istead it displays a Aborted unmodified message. message. Any suggestions how to overcome this problem? Thanks in advance. Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 4903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax:+353 21 4903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: This message was sent by a different mutt from a different machine.
Re: prompting Fcc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2000: I'm looking for being prompted for where to save outgoing messages. does anybody know something about that? After having a look at the manual, looks like it can't be done. The implementation would likely be trivial, as there's already (for example) the $askbcc setting. But yes, that means changes in the source. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / I know Karate, Kung Fu, and 47 other dangerous words.
Re: About PGP public key service. (With P.S.)
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 02:37:39AM +0300, Eugene Paskevich wrote: P.S. There are two things I still can't understand. 1) Why do people post here signed messages. I think there's no need in it. because a lot of people (me included) have mutt sign their messages automatically, and often don't bother/forget to tell it not to sign to lists... 2) If they sign their messages they suppose that someone have their public key to verify signature. Where can I get it? From public server of keys? {I don't remember the correct name.} Again, there is no need in these servers. 'couse noone would ask for public key of an unknown man just to verify a signature. Set your mutt/gpg to automatically get keys from a keyserver (like wwwkeys.pgp.net) and then when it encounters a key it doesn't know, it'll try and get it and automatically verify it. it's pretty cool. :) :) Dan
Re: Aborted unmodified message.
On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Marc van Dongen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I just re-installed vim on my system. When I now try to compose a message after I enter the name of the recipient mutt does not allow me to write a message. Istead it displays a Aborted unmodified message. message. set abort_unmodified=ask-no Wow, two questions in a row I'm dealing with as they roll in. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Max Msgs: Count
I have many email files with over 100,000 messages and counting. However, I cannot get Mutt to indicate over 99,999 messages. It simply chops off the last number making it appear that I have much less. Is there a way to expand this field to handle very large mail volume? Since Mutt is one of the very few MUA's that can actually sort through this in record time it should probably be able to do this. I just cannot find how. There is actually 275,803 messages in this mailbox/file. Mutt: =saved [Msgs:27580 New:26236 Post:1 Inc:1 100M]---(threads/reverse-date-receive Thanks, -- Best Regards, Corey
Unable to send key
I seem to be unable to send my public GPG key. Here's what happens when I try: 1) Let's say I've composed an e-mail and am ready to send it, along with my key. From the compose menu, I press Esck; 2) I'm prompted at the bottom of the screen: "Please enter the key ID:" I enter the ID of my GPG public key and press RETURN. 3) This puts me in the PGP menu where I see my public and private key IDs listed thus: 1 + 1024/0xFC5C7370 DSA -s Russell Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 + /Xx XXX e- Russell Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) I press RETURN and get this message at the bottom of my screen: Invoking pgp...File `gpg-output' exists. Overwrite (y/N)? This is where the trouble starts, because I am now stuck here. I can't get out by pressing RETURN or y or Y or n or N or anything else. I'm hung. 5) So I Control-c out, and am put back into the compose menu, where I see my public key listed in the Attachments list: - A 2 PGP Key 0xFC5C7370. [applica/pgp-keys, 7bit, 0K] But when I 'v'iew the key attachment, I get this message: [-- Error: could not find beginning of PGP message! --] And if I send this mail, the recipient sees this: -- [-- Attachment #1 --] [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.1K --] My text message here. -- // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [-- Attachment #2: PGP Key 0xFC5C7370. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-keys, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0K --] [-- Error: could not find beginning of PGP message! --] --- What am I doing wrong? -- // [EMAIL PROTECTED] //
Re: message's important flag
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 06:31:45PM -0500, David Champion wrote: On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jeff Howie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also have a "color" line to highlight my flagged messages in red, and I've tried, but can't get how to do this. Can you please elucidate? color index brightred default "~F | ~G | ~n 500-" This colors index lines in bright red if they match "~F | ~G | ~n 500-", which are any message: 1) with the flag set, or 2) that's PGP-encrypted (I assume these to be relatively important), or 3) with a score of 500 or more (see "scoring" in the manual) Neat. One could set up a whole world of highlighting. Something else that might be interesting -- some of you might remember my trying to work out this match expression -- I also have similar That does look like a mess! I didn't know that mutt could do so much! I'll have to start reading those manual pages more. Doesn't someone have a "mutt for the insane" web page? :) Or at least a page for the 'gifted mutts' of the world. Thanks. -- -- | THKS : | Federated Insurance | | Jeff Howie | Information Systems - PC | | Int Programmer/Analyst | 204.786.6431.x.217| --
Re: sending mail
[mutt-dev trimmed] Emmanuel Anne proclaimed on mutt-users that: I am just starting to use mutt, and noticed something : it is quite hard to configure when you have an email adress different from your unix account. Generally, you end up using the sendmail "-f" switch, but in a case like this you get an "Authentication-Warning" with some mail agents like postfix (as you can see in the headers of this message). Should that matter? Anyone who filters on an X- header like that should, erm, re-evaluate his priorities :) I did not check very far, but apparently some other programs take the approach of sending mail by communicating with sendmail via the port 25, and not by calling it directly. Apparently, they Pine does it - if you set it to use 'sender' instead of X-Sender. Using X-Sender will make pine talk smtp using sendmail -bs (or equivalent) - producing a header like X-Authentication-Warning: foo owned process using -bs If your actual unix account name resolves, instead of being in RFC 1918 space (192.168./16, 10./8 etc) and is not something like [EMAIL PROTECTED], then you can safely send using that, and altering your from header using my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Foo Bar) Mutt will still use the envelope sender of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is not a problem if it resolves - but if it does not resolve, you'll end up having lots of mail bounced / dev/nulled, as most well configured MTAs will refuse to accept mail if they can't resolve the envelope sender's domain name. It's your choice. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI Life is a healthy respect for mother nature laced with greed.