Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Dave Ewart

I posted this question yesterday and have had no replies or follow-ups.
Does that mean that no-one else has this problem?  Or that loads of
people have the problem and they can't solve it either??  I find it hard
to believe that either of those explanations is true.

I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response!

Thanks,

Dave.

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Hello Mutt people,

Something that's been bugging me over the last few days/weeks since I
upgraded from Mutt 1.2.x to Mutt 1.3.x - "special" characters aren't
displayed properly.

e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for most of
you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3).  This behaviour is
with all versions 1.3.7 to 1.3.9, and I assume it's something to do with
the iconv setup, although this support is compiled in properly as far as
I can tell:

Mutt 1.3.9i (2000-09-21)
Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.2.17 [using ncurses 4.2]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
+DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  
+USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_POP  -USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  -USE_SASL  
+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  -HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET  
++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_GETSID
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail"
SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc"
EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
-MIXMASTER
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility.

This is definitely a problem I having with the Mutt pager, since if I
reply to a message, the pound sign appears correctly in the editor,
presumably because Vim is displaying it, not Mutt.

I tried recompiling with the --enable-locales-fix option, but that
resulted in the same behaviour.

What am I doing wrong?  I am running Mutt in an Eterm under KDE, if
that's useful info, and I get the same behaviour in a Konsole.  In all
circumstances, Mutt 1.2.5 works fine.

Dave.
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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread raf

Dave Ewart wrote:

 I posted this question yesterday and have had no replies or follow-ups.
 Does that mean that no-one else has this problem?  Or that loads of
 people have the problem and they can't solve it either??  I find it hard
 to believe that either of those explanations is true.
 
 I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response!

i can only answer for myself of course :)
but i haven't used 1.3.9 yet and upon seeing
your post, thought i'd wait for the answer to
arrive before installing 1.3.9 :)

raf




Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Dave Ewart

On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 20:13 +1100, raf wrote:

 Dave Ewart wrote:
 
  I posted this question yesterday and have had no replies or
  follow-ups.  Does that mean that no-one else has this problem?  Or
  that loads of people have the problem and they can't solve it
  either??  I find it hard to believe that either of those
  explanations is true.
  
  I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response!
 
 i can only answer for myself of course :)
 but i haven't used 1.3.9 yet and upon seeing
 your post, thought i'd wait for the answer to
 arrive before installing 1.3.9 :)

:-)

Interesting - but the problem seems to be common to every version in the
1.3.x series that I've tried (1.3.7, 1.3.8 and 1.3.9).

Dave.
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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 26-Sep-00 by Dave Ewart:
 I find it hard to believe that either of those explanations is true.

It hits me intermittently, yes on some builds, not on others.  So I don't
have a guaranteed fix.  I can't even tell you what makes it happen, since I
use the same options for every build (I build an rpm of each release using
the same spec file).

I can tell you that my current 1.3.8 build doesn't have the problem, but my
first 1.3.7 did.

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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Dave Ewart

On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 02:31 -0700, Anton Graham wrote:

 Submitted 26-Sep-00 by Dave Ewart:
  I find it hard to believe that either of those explanations is true.
 
 It hits me intermittently, yes on some builds, not on others.  So I
 don't have a guaranteed fix.  I can't even tell you what makes it
 happen, since I use the same options for every build (I build an rpm
 of each release using the same spec file).
 
 I can tell you that my current 1.3.8 build doesn't have the problem,
 but my first 1.3.7 did.

How bizarre - after you wrote this, I just tried rebuilding the 1.3.8
tree, but that doesn't seem to make any difference.  

Can you post a "mutt -v" of both a working and a non-working build?  Or
are they definitely the same?

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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Lars Hecking


 e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for most of
 you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3).

 Set your locale properly. If that doesn't help, compile with
 --enable-locales-fix.




Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Dave Ewart

On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 11:01 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:

  e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for most of
  you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3).
 
  Set your locale properly. If that doesn't help, compile with
  --enable-locales-fix.

Thanks for the suggestion, Lars.  How do I set my locale?

[My original posting already stated that I tried recompiling with
--enable-locales-fix, which made no difference.]

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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Lars Hecking

Dave Ewart writes:
 On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 11:01 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:
 
   e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for most of
   you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3).
  
   Set your locale properly. If that doesn't help, compile with
   --enable-locales-fix.
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, Lars.  How do I set my locale?
 
 Setting LC_CTYPE should be enough.

 Example: in general, I prefer a C locale, but occasionally I do need
 certain non-ascii characters. So here's what I am using:

$ grep LC_ ~/.muttrc
set editor="LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 vi"
set pager="LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 less -ceiM +Gg"
$

 Works nicely: £ Å Ë Ø ç í etc.

 A different solution, which can be implemented with a wrapper script
 or aliases:

$ LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 mutt   # Bourne/Korn

$ env LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 mutt   # Csh and friends

 Or simply set the correct locale permanently in your environment
 (Solaris/CDE allows you to choose the locale on login if all the
  necessary files are installed).




Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:38:49 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:
 I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response!

Well, one of the reasons could be that you post about problems with
Mutt 1.3.x here at the mutt-users list. The 1.3.x series are
development versions which are not considered ready for common use,
and questions about these should be discussed at the mutt-dev list.

Another reason could very well be that nobody here have seen this
problem or can explain why you have it. I can not either, but I
presume that it would be interessting to know (on the mutt-dev
list):

 - the value of the $charset variable
 
 - the charset indication of the messages which doesn't show
   correctly
   
 - the current locale
 
 - the used libc or libiconv versions

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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Dave Ewart

On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 13:08 +0200, Byrial Jensen wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:38:49 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:
  I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response!
 
 Well, one of the reasons could be that you post about problems with
 Mutt 1.3.x here at the mutt-users list. The 1.3.x series are
 development versions which are not considered ready for common use,
 and questions about these should be discussed at the mutt-dev list.

Yes, that's a good point, I'll try that.  My feeling is that quite a
large number of people _are_ using the development versions, though ...

Cheers,

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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Dave Ewart

On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 11:34 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:

 Dave Ewart writes:
  On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 11:01 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:
  
e.g. the UK pound sign, £ (don't know how that'll appear for
most of you) appears as \243 (that's backslash, 2, 4, 3).
   
Set your locale properly. If that doesn't help, compile with
--enable-locales-fix.
  
  Thanks for the suggestion, Lars.  How do I set my locale?
  
  Setting LC_CTYPE should be enough.
 
  Example: in general, I prefer a C locale, but occasionally I do need
  certain non-ascii characters. So here's what I am using:
 
 $ grep LC_ ~/.muttrc
 set editor="LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 vi"
 set pager="LC_CTYPE=en_IE.ISO8859-15 less -ceiM +Gg"
 ...

I think my problem is with the Mutt internal pager not displaying stuff
right, since all other aspects involve using the editor Vim, and
characters display correctly.  Your external pager will mean that the
internal pager is never used.

Given a suggestion from someone else, I am going to see if anyone on the
Mutt-Dev list can shed any light on to this ...

Dave.
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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Dave Pearson

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 02:46:21PM +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:

   My feeling is that quite a large
 number of people _are_ using the development versions, though ...

Just because many people use a development version it doesn't follow that
they don't report problems on the development list. You'd expect people who
are testing the development version to actually *use* it in places other
than the developers mailing list.

,
| davep@hagbard:~$grep "^User-Agent.*Mutt/1\.3" Mail/mutt | wc -l
| 277
| davep@hagbard:~$grep "^User-Agent.*Mutt/1\.2" Mail/mutt | wc -l
| 673
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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-09-26 14:48:35 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:

 I think my problem is with the Mutt internal pager not displaying stuff
 right, since all other aspects involve using the editor Vim, and
 characters display correctly.  Your external pager will mean that the
 internal pager is never used.

 Given a suggestion from someone else, I am going to see if anyone
 on the Mutt-Dev list can shed any light on to this ...

You still owe us your $charset variable's setting.

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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Dave Ewart

On Tuesday, 26.09.2000 at 16:11 +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote:

 On 2000-09-26 14:48:35 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:
 
  I think my problem is with the Mutt internal pager not displaying stuff
  right, since all other aspects involve using the editor Vim, and
  characters display correctly.  Your external pager will mean that the
  internal pager is never used.
 
  Given a suggestion from someone else, I am going to see if anyone
  on the Mutt-Dev list can shed any light on to this ...
 
 You still owe us your $charset variable's setting.

Ah, yes, sorry ...

$charset in my .muttrc is:

set charset="iso-8859-1"

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imap_checkinterval

2000-09-26 Thread Chris Green

Has the imap_checkinterval variable disappeared?

I just moved to version 1.3.9 (not voluntarily, hy home directory got
zapped here) and I'm getting an error about imap_checkinterval.

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Re: Content-Disposition

2000-09-26 Thread Andy Spiegl

Bruce DeVisser wrote:
 ^D on the compose menu toggles this, under Mutt 1.2.5i. 
 
 (If I hit ? in the compose menu, it's the very first keybinding
 described. :)

Great!  I just upgraded and really like this feature.
Now I am wondering how I can set the default of disposition to I(nline).
I can't find anything about that in the manual.  Is there a way?

Thanks a lot,
 Andy.

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Re: Content-Disposition

2000-09-26 Thread David Champion

On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Andy Spiegl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bruce DeVisser wrote:
  ^D on the compose menu toggles this, under Mutt 1.2.5i. 
  
  (If I hit ? in the compose menu, it's the very first keybinding
  described. :)
 
 Great!  I just upgraded and really like this feature.
 Now I am wondering how I can set the default of disposition to I(nline).
 I can't find anything about that in the manual.  Is there a way?

Well, you can set a compose macro to inline after adding.

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Re: Content-Disposition

2000-09-26 Thread Andy Spiegl

 Well, you can set a compose macro to inline after adding.
Ehmm, sounds like a good idea, but how do I do that?

Sorry for the stupid question,
 Andy.

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Incorrect encoding of letter's headings

2000-09-26 Thread Vitaly A. Repin

Hello, All!

When I write the subject of my letter in russian (koi8-r encoding),
the following transformation occurs with letters of the "Subject" field:

Subject: =?koi8-r?B?9MXT1CDS1dPTy8/HzyDawcfPzM/Xy8E=?=

What's the problem?  And how can I solve it?

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asked many times

2000-09-26 Thread Andy Spiegl

I have a question that has been asked many times, but I don't think it
really has been answered:

When replying to a mail how can I set the From: header line so that it
corresponds to the To: address of the mail I am replying to?  So far it's
easy (reverse_name and set_from), but when _not_ replying, I want to use
From: headers that correspond to the recipient of the new mail.

Here is an example:
When I write a new mail to the mutt-mailinglist I want From: to be:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But when I get a mail from someone who sent it to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
I want From: to be "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

I tried it this way:
 send-hook '~C mutt-'   'my_hdr From: Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
but then reverse_name doesn't work.
So I tried:
 send-hook '~C mutt-'   'set from="Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]"'
but then from is set for the next mail, not for the current one. *argh*

How did you guys solve this dilemma?

Thanks a lot in advance,
 Andy.

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Re: Q: Why no replies to my post??

2000-09-26 Thread Benjamin Korvemaker

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:38:49AM +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:
[..]
 I'd appreciate any insights as to why my posting got no response!
[..]

I seem to recall I grumbled about a similar thing awhile back (also
development series), and nothing anyone suggested worked for me. So I
suffer through it when it happens. Or pipe it through "more" if I'm
curious.

My scenario being that sitting at a Linux box running X, xterms running
sessions locally accented chars as "?", but xterms running sessions on a
Solaris box display accented chars properly. Twiddling with locale
settings or using --enable-locales-fix, neither seems to work.

The *only* obvious thing I've found is differing versions of ncurses (4.2
on Linux, 5.0 on Solaris) and
(a) I'm not root, so I can't upgrade the Linux one and
(b) I ran into all sorts of grief (don't remember what it was, but I get
the shakes thinking about it) trying to install my own copy.

I'd love to hear some insights.


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Re: asked many times

2000-09-26 Thread David Champion

On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Andy Spiegl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So I tried:
  send-hook '~C mutt-'   'set from="Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]"'
 but then from is set for the next mail, not for the current one. *argh*

This is good and correct.

 How did you guys solve this dilemma?

You need to define a send-hook matching anything, with precedence over
this send-hook, which resets $from to a default value.  For example, I
have this in my muttrc:

  send-hook '.' 'unmy_hdr Reply-To:'
  send-hook '~C postmaster@uchicago' 'my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

The first one unsets Reply-To: for any send, then passes on to the
second.  The second one sets Reply-To: for any mail to our postmaster
address (which forwards to me).  Not quite the same as setting $from,
but close enough to illustrate.

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Re: imap_checkinterval

2000-09-26 Thread Brendan Cully

On Tuesday, 26 September 2000 at 15:58, Chris Green wrote:
 Has the imap_checkinterval variable disappeared?
 
 I just moved to version 1.3.9 (not voluntarily, hy home directory got
 zapped here) and I'm getting an error about imap_checkinterval.

it's been eradicated. You can use a combination of $timeout and
$mail_check to get similar results. $mail_check controls how often your
"mailboxes" are checked, and $timeout controls the minimum time to poll
the current mailbox. I use $mail_check of 90 and $timeout of 15,
personally.

These changes cleaned up the code path and are more intuitive (use old,
documented variables, don't have to worry about strange interactions
between the three), unless you happen to be used to imap_checkinterval,
of course :)

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Re: message's important flag

2000-09-26 Thread David Champion

On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Lukas Schroeder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Anyways, besides this beautiful '!' next to the message, does a set
 important flag of a set of messages trigger any additional useful
 functionality like easy switching via repeated TAB-punching or
 something?

Sure, if you say:
macro index tab  "search~Fenter" "Find next flagged message"

:)

TAB finds the next (N)ew message by default.

I also have a "color" line to highlight my flagged messages in red, and
this procmail rule to process messages the sender tagged as urgent:
:0 f
* ^(Importance: High|Priority: Urgent)
| ${FORMAIL} -I "X-Status: F"

Now when PC users make a message important, it comes into my mailbox in
red with the "!" on.

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Re: Content-Disposition

2000-09-26 Thread David Champion

On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Andy Spiegl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, you can set a compose macro to inline after adding.
 Ehmm, sounds like a good idea, but how do I do that?
 
 Sorry for the stupid question,
  Andy.

Actually, I think it was a bad idea.  I guess you can't macro an
interactive text entry *and* keystrokes that come afterward.  You have
to pre-assign the entered text, or stop with the symbol that invokes
the text entry.  It wouldn't be a bad feature to add, though -- some
special token meaning "wait for enter, then proceed with macro
processing".

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Re: message's important flag

2000-09-26 Thread Jeff Howie

I'd like to get this working too.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:17:39PM -0500, David Champion wrote:
 macro index tab  "search~Fenter" "Find next flagged message"
 TAB finds the next (N)ew message by default.

OK, I got that.

 I also have a "color" line to highlight my flagged messages in red, and

I've tried, but can't get how to do this. Can you please elucidate?

 this procmail rule to process messages the sender tagged as urgent:
   :0 f
   * ^(Importance: High|Priority: Urgent)
   | ${FORMAIL} -I "X-Status: F"

And I've added this.

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Re: Content-Disposition

2000-09-26 Thread Mikko Hänninen

David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2000:
 It wouldn't be a bad feature to add, though -- some
 special token meaning "wait for enter, then proceed with macro
 processing".

That kind of function would solve a lot of macro problems.

But, actually, I think the person is asking how to set the
content-disposition of an attachement to "inline".  This is not
done with edit-type (^T) rather than with a separate function,
toggle-disposition (^D).  No need to macro that.


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Re: asked many times

2000-09-26 Thread Mikko Hänninen

David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2000:
   send-hook '~C mutt-'   'set from="Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]"'
  but then from is set for the next mail, not for the current one. *argh*
 
 This is good and correct.

Uhh, no.  You can't use $from with send-hooks, because as the person
posting noticed, the $from only comes into effect for the next email.
You have to use "my_hdr From:" if you want to change the From line
from send-hooks.

Not sure if that's what you were talking about, or not. :-)


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xterm window resizing

2000-09-26 Thread Jeff Howie

Hi all. I've noticed a really annoying problem, that I can't seem to
be able to resize the xterm that is running mutt. I've experienced
affects from mutt just not going aloong with the new size, to mutt
crashing after hitting 'y' to send a new message (then I have to go
back in  check to make sure it really did send it).

I searched back thru the archives, and it seems that a possible fix is
having to link against a new version of ncurses or slang. Is this
still the only fix for this, or am I off on the wrong track? If this
is right, then what would be considered 'new' versions of these
libraries?

I'm running Caldera 2.4, X 3.3.3.1b,  mutt 1.0i

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Re: asked many times

2000-09-26 Thread David Champion

On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Mikko Hänninen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2000:
send-hook '~C mutt-'   'set from="Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED]"'
   but then from is set for the next mail, not for the current one. *argh*
  
  This is good and correct.
 
 Uhh, no.  You can't use $from with send-hooks, because as the person
 posting noticed, the $from only comes into effect for the next email.
 You have to use "my_hdr From:" if you want to change the From line
 from send-hooks.

 Not sure if that's what you were talking about, or not. :-)

OK, I've never actually tried using $from in a send-hook, and was
unaware of that issue.  I was thinking of the general approach, not the
specific hook command.  (Oops.)

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Re: xterm window resizing

2000-09-26 Thread Jeff Howie

And as an after-thought (I know, it should have been my first
thought), but I just upgraded to the latest stable release, 1.2.5
(latest right?). Same problem, though.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:55:58PM -0500, Jeff Howie wrote:
 Hi all. I've noticed a really annoying problem, that I can't seem to
 be able to resize the xterm that is running mutt. I've experienced
 affects from mutt just not going aloong with the new size, to mutt
 crashing after hitting 'y' to send a new message (then I have to go
 back in  check to make sure it really did send it).
 
 I searched back thru the archives, and it seems that a possible fix is
 having to link against a new version of ncurses or slang. Is this
 still the only fix for this, or am I off on the wrong track? If this
 is right, then what would be considered 'new' versions of these
 libraries?
 
 I'm running Caldera 2.4, X 3.3.3.1b,  mutt 1.0i
 
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About PGP public key service. (With P.S.)

2000-09-26 Thread Eugene Paskevich

I heard that people have troubles with public PGP key service.
That's why I'd like to introduce the way I did it myself.
I hope that this info will be helpful for someone.
--
1) In ~/.procmailrc:
:0
* ^Subject: publicpgpkey
| /home/eugene/bin/publicpgpkey "`formail -x 'From: '`"

2) /home/eugene/bin/publicpgpkey:
#!/bin/sh
KEYRING=/home/eugene/.pgp/pubring.pkr
PUBLIC=/tmp/publicpgpkey
USERID=Eugene

if [ "$1" == "--help" ] ; then
  echo "Public PGP key utility."
  echo "Usage: $0 [e-mail]"
  echo "e-mail: To send public PGP key to a particular e-mail."
  exit 0
fi

pgp -kxa $USERID $PUBLIC $KEYRING  /dev/null 21

if [ ! -n "$1" ] ; then
  cat $PUBLIC
  rm -f $PUBLIC
  exit 0
fi

mail "$1" -s "Public PGP key of Eugene Paskevich"  $PUBLIC
if [ ! "`cat /proc/$PPID/cmdline`" == "-bash" ] ; then
  echo `date ; echo "$1"`  /home/eugene/.pgp/people
fi
rm -f $PUBLIC
-
Now one can make changes for him/herself and be happy.

P.S. There are two things I still can't understand.
1) Why do people post here signed messages. I think there's no need in it.
2) If they sign their messages they suppose that someone have their public
key to verify signature. Where can I get it? From public server of keys?
{I don't remember the correct name.} Again, there is no need in these
servers. 'couse noone would ask for public key of an unknown man just to
verify a signature.
It's a stupid idea as for me.

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prompting Fcc

2000-09-26 Thread richard . hitier

hi all,

I'm looking for being prompted for where to save outgoing messages.


I know about 'record' and 'copy' variables, 
which set where and whether to save or not, or ask.
('force_name' and 'save_name' just set the mailboxe name for each message.)

I also know the 'f' command in compose menu, and the 'fcc-hook' commande in .muttrc.


But I would like to be prompted for the place where to save the outgoing message
any time I send one.

does anybody know something about that?

thanks.


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sending mail

2000-09-26 Thread Emmanuel Anne


Maybe I shoud have sent this to mutt-users...

I am just starting to use mutt, and noticed something :
it is quite hard to configure when you have an email adress
different from your unix account. Generally, you end up using
the sendmail "-f" switch, but in a case like this you get
an "Authentication-Warning" with some mail agents like
postfix (as you can see in the headers of this message).

I did not check very far, but apparently some other programs
take the approach of sending mail by communicating with sendmail
via the port 25, and not by calling it directly. Apparently, they
avoid the -f switch, and thus the warning.
xfmail takes this approach.

But maybe I did something wrong ?
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Re: About PGP encryption

2000-09-26 Thread Paul A. Cheshire

Bob Bell [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] asserted:
 On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 08:57:09PM +0300, Eugene Paskevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  That's very nice but I'd like my signature to be changed every time
  I compose a new message. Not every session of mutt.
 
 If you read the manual, you'll discover that if $signature ends with
 a pipe ("|"), then it is run as a program and the output is used as your
 signature.  That's what I do.
Same here. Works a treat

;-}

[...]

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 PGP signature


Aborted unmodified message.

2000-09-26 Thread Marc van Dongen

Hi there,

I just re-installed vim on my system.
When I now try to compose a message
after  I enter the name of the recipient
mutt does not allow me to write a message.
Istead it displays a
 Aborted unmodified message.
message.

Any suggestions how to overcome this problem?

Thanks in advance.


Marc van Dongen
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University College Cork, NUIC | Fax:+353 21 4903113
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PS: This message was sent by a different mutt from a different machine.




Re: prompting Fcc

2000-09-26 Thread Mikko Hänninen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 
2000:
 I'm looking for being prompted for where to save outgoing messages.

 does anybody know something about that?

After having a look at the manual, looks like it can't be done.  The
implementation would likely be trivial, as there's already (for
example) the $askbcc setting.  But yes, that means changes in the
source.


Regards,
Mikko
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Re: About PGP public key service. (With P.S.)

2000-09-26 Thread Dan Boger

On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 02:37:39AM +0300, Eugene Paskevich wrote:
 P.S. There are two things I still can't understand.
 1) Why do people post here signed messages. I think there's no need in it.

because a lot of people (me included) have mutt sign their messages 
automatically, and often don't bother/forget to tell it not to sign to 
lists...

 2) If they sign their messages they suppose that someone have their public
 key to verify signature. Where can I get it? From public server of keys?
 {I don't remember the correct name.} Again, there is no need in these
 servers. 'couse noone would ask for public key of an unknown man just to
 verify a signature.

Set your mutt/gpg to automatically get keys from a keyserver (like
wwwkeys.pgp.net) and then when it encounters a key it doesn't know, it'll
try and get it and automatically verify it.  it's pretty cool. :)

:)

Dan



Re: Aborted unmodified message.

2000-09-26 Thread David Champion

On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Marc van Dongen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I just re-installed vim on my system.
 When I now try to compose a message
 after  I enter the name of the recipient
 mutt does not allow me to write a message.
 Istead it displays a
  Aborted unmodified message.
 message.

set abort_unmodified=ask-no

Wow, two questions in a row I'm dealing with as they roll in.  

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Max Msgs: Count

2000-09-26 Thread Corey G.

I have many email files with over 100,000 messages and counting.
However, I cannot get Mutt to indicate over 99,999 messages.  It simply
chops off the last number making it appear that I have much less.  Is
there a way to expand this field to handle very large mail volume?
Since Mutt is one of the very few MUA's that can actually sort through
this in record time it should probably be able to do this.  I just
cannot find how.

There is actually 275,803 messages in this mailbox/file.

Mutt: =saved [Msgs:27580 New:26236 Post:1 Inc:1
100M]---(threads/reverse-date-receive


Thanks,

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Unable to send key

2000-09-26 Thread Russell Hoover

I seem to be unable to send my public GPG key.  Here's what
happens when I try:

1)  Let's say I've composed an e-mail and am ready to send
it, along with my key.  From the compose menu, I press Esck;

2)  I'm prompted at the bottom of the screen: "Please enter the key ID:"
I enter the ID of my GPG public key and press RETURN.

3)  This puts me in the PGP menu where I see my public and private key IDs
listed thus:

   1 +  1024/0xFC5C7370 DSA  -s Russell Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   2 +  /Xx XXX  e- Russell Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED]

4)  I press RETURN and get this message at the bottom of my screen:

Invoking pgp...File `gpg-output' exists. Overwrite (y/N)?

This is where the trouble starts, because I am now stuck here.  I can't
get out by pressing RETURN or y or Y or n or N or anything else.  I'm
hung.

5)  So I Control-c out, and am put back into the compose menu, where
I see my public key listed in the Attachments list:

- A 2 PGP Key 0xFC5C7370.  [applica/pgp-keys, 7bit, 0K]

But when I 'v'iew the key attachment, I get this message:

[-- Error: could not find beginning of PGP message! --]

And if I send this mail, the recipient sees this:

--
[-- Attachment #1 --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.1K --]

My text message here.
--
 // [EMAIL PROTECTED] //

[-- Attachment #2: PGP Key 0xFC5C7370. --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-keys, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0K --]

[-- Error: could not find beginning of PGP message! --]
---

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: message's important flag

2000-09-26 Thread Jeff Howie

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 06:31:45PM -0500, David Champion wrote:
 On 2000.09.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   "Jeff Howie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I also have a "color" line to highlight my flagged messages in red, and
  
  I've tried, but can't get how to do this. Can you please elucidate?
 
 color index   brightred   default "~F | ~G | ~n 500-" 

 This colors index lines in bright red if they match
 "~F | ~G | ~n 500-", which are any message:
   1) with the flag set, or
   2) that's PGP-encrypted (I assume these to be relatively important), or
   3) with a score of 500 or more (see "scoring" in the manual)

Neat. One could set up a whole world of highlighting.

 Something else that might be interesting -- some of you might remember
 my trying to work out this match expression -- I also have similar

That does look like a mess! I didn't know that mutt could do so much!
I'll have to start reading those manual pages more.

 Doesn't someone have a "mutt for the insane" web page?  :)

Or at least a page for the 'gifted mutts' of the world.
Thanks.

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Re: sending mail

2000-09-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[mutt-dev trimmed]

Emmanuel Anne proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 I am just starting to use mutt, and noticed something :
 it is quite hard to configure when you have an email adress
 different from your unix account. Generally, you end up using
 the sendmail "-f" switch, but in a case like this you get
 an "Authentication-Warning" with some mail agents like
 postfix (as you can see in the headers of this message).
 
Should that matter?  Anyone who filters on an X- header like that should, erm,
re-evaluate his priorities :)

 I did not check very far, but apparently some other programs
 take the approach of sending mail by communicating with sendmail
 via the port 25, and not by calling it directly. Apparently, they

Pine does it - if you set it to use 'sender' instead of X-Sender.  Using
X-Sender will make pine talk smtp using sendmail -bs (or equivalent) -
producing a header like  X-Authentication-Warning: foo owned process using -bs

If your actual unix account name resolves, instead of being in RFC 1918 space
(192.168./16, 10./8 etc) and is not something like [EMAIL PROTECTED],
then you can safely send using that, and altering your from header using 

my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Foo Bar)

Mutt will still use the envelope sender of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is not a
problem if it resolves - but if it does not resolve, you'll end up having lots
of mail bounced / dev/nulled, as most well configured MTAs will refuse to
accept mail if they can't resolve the envelope sender's domain name.

It's your choice.

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