[opensuse-factory] Backup button on external (USB-) harddisks

2007-04-30 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Hi all,
is there anybody working on a driver? I had already several disks with such a 
button here, but no idea, where to start... 

They do not send keycodes (tried showkey and xev).

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[opensuse-factory] kiwi-ltsp

2007-04-30 Thread CyberOrg

Hi all

I have been trying to get LTSP 5 working on SUSE lately and the very
initial test packages are up.

Download and install kiwi-desc-ltsp  0.1.9 from here:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/cyberorg/openSUSE_10.2/noarch/

You also require kiwi, kiwi-desc-netboot and kiwi-pxeboot from:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/openSUSE:/Tools/openSUSE_10.2/

Change the installation path (/mnt/iso) to your installation path.

Run as root sh /usr/share/kiwi/image/kwltsp-suse-10.2/setup-ltsp.sh

If everything goes right this script should setup /opt/ltsp/suse,
/etc/exports, sshkeys and netboot images.

Follow the output on screen.

PXE booting the client should get a LTSP Display Manager through which
you can log in using any account created on the server. You also
require to setup dhcp and a/tftp server.

You would need ssh server running, no running X required on the server.

The real work of porting all the LTSP 5 scripts to SUSE will start
now, for that I require help.

Have a lot of fun

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[opensuse-factory] recompiled stock kernel modules take many X more disk space than modules from installed rpm

2007-04-30 Thread Felix Miata
What I did:
1-installed factory via ftp
2-zcat /proc/config.gz  .config
3-make menuconfig (add smbfs support and change kernel suffix)
4-make
5-make modules_install
6-INSTALL_PATH=/boot make install
7-fixed broken /boot/grub/menu.lst
8-rebooted new kernel
/lib/modules/2.6.21-rc7-3-default# du -s .
57410   .
/lib/modules/2.6.21-rc7-3-b7513-16# du -s .
529982  .
/lib/modules/2.6.21-rc7-3-b7513-16/kernel/fs/reiserfs# ll
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 2783209 apr 30 01:16 (objdump -h shows 26 segments, 9
more than stock)
/lib/modules/2.6.21-rc7-3-b7513-16/kernel/fs/smbfs# ll
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1081958 apr 30 01:16 smbfs.ko (stat claims 2126
blocks of 1024 each, double that required for 1081958 filesize; objdump -h
shows 24 segments, 9 more than stock)

On my 10.2 smbfs.ko is only size 75753. Why do my modules consume 9.2 times
as much overall disk space as the stock modules? What did I do wrong?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Backup button on external (USB-) harddisks

2007-04-30 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 04:23:35PM +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
 Hi all,
 is there anybody working on a driver?

Not that I have heard.

 I had already several disks with such a 
 button here, but no idea, where to start... 

How about the output of 'lsusb -v' with the device plugged in, so we can
get an idea of what that button might be?

thanks,

greg k-h
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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Bob S
On Sunday 29 April 2007 05:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Saturday 2007-04-28 at 23:03 -0400, Bob S wrote:
   of course they are, many, beginning by dd...
 
  Are you telling me that dd will take a blank hard drive, format it and
  duplicate the partions ?

 Yes.

  Like Mondo rescue would?

 No.

 dd is dumb: if you take the image of a 100 GB disk and dd it to a new 200
 GB disk, you loose 100 GB.

OK Carlos, many thanks for that. Didn't realize that dd could do that. Thought 
it just copied files and directories to be restored to existing partitions.

  I am thinking when the drive is returned (they will have formatted it)
  That I will have to format it again to ext3, and build my partitions
  exactly as they were, and I am not sure how I can duplicate it exactly.

 Does it matter?

 Does it matter if a partition is a bit bigger or smaller, even if it is a
 diferent type? Linux doesn't care, it will work anyway. You can use the
 chance to change your partition types/sizes.

WelYou're right. It doesn't really matter if dd (or others) recreate 
the drive as the original was. I was worried that everything would be just 
run together in one big partition with no space between/after the copied 
partitions. 

So, what you are saying is just restore and everything will be taken care of 
automagically, but if I want to, I can change partition sizes and restore to 
the newly created partitions on an individual basis.

?

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Re: [opensuse] UNKNOWN FORMAT FOR JPEGS IN KONQUEROR

2007-04-30 Thread jdd

Chris  Steve wrote:

Hi guys,
I am new to this community help thing, so please bare with me...

I can't view jpegs in Konqueror. It does not recognize the format.
I think I accidentally changed the setting for jpegs in Konqueror, but I
am not sure exactly what it was.
I can view jpegs in digicam, but not in konqueror.
When I do a properties in konqueror, for format it is unknown.
I think it is looking at the jpegs as a text document.
What settings do I need to change back for konqueror to see my jpegs as
photos again, instead of text documents ?

-Steve


I have similar problem, but with jpg

on my 10.1 install, only jpeg displays in the internal viewer with 
all the exifs infos, so I simply add the *.jpg to the jpeg profile


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Re: [opensuse] building RPMs

2007-04-30 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Sunday 2007-04-29 at 23:04 +0200, Johannes Nohl wrote:
 ...
 Most sources configured will install to /usr/local. I usually change
 this with --prefix to /usr. What I always wanted to know is if there's
 a global config to change it to /usr.
 
 Is anything wrong with /usr/local? SUSE don't use it as I could see.
 
 No, you should use /usr/local, not /usr, you got it wrong. The local 
 tree is reserved precisely for those packages compiled /locally/, whereas 
 the packager of the distro uses /usr. This way it is easy to know which 
 version is the official one and which is yours.
 
 Some people use a separate partition for /usr/local, so that we can format 
 / while keeping our /usr/local intact.

No, I mean it: use /usr, not /usr/local

So, you make a package foo yourself, e.g. with checkinstall.
You prefix it to /usr/local because you don't redistribute it, because
it's a local package (whatever that means: a package is either in the
RPM database or not, there is no local RPM database).

Now you install 10.3 on it, by using new installation instead of
system upgrade, because you've got /home and /usr/local on their own
partitions.

Guess what, the RPM database is in /var/lib/rpm, not in /usr/local.

If you wipe / (but not /usr/local), it'll be broken anyway because the
RPM database won't know anything about your local package in /usr/local

Furthermore, maybe one day that package is provided by a SUSE repository
(or packman, or build service, or suser-jengelh, or mine, ...), possibly
with a different package name...
You might install that package, but as your local and the
redistributed packages use different prefixes, they will not conflict
on files. Hence you'll end up with both versions installed.
But if both packages are used as dependencies (read: shared libs or
script interpreters), you might get into some rather funny behaviour.

Quoting the FHS [1]:
/usr/local : Local hierarchy
The /usr/local hierarchy is for use by the system administrator when
installing software locally. It needs to be safe from being overwritten
when the system software is updated. It may be used for programs and
data that are shareable amongst a group of hosts, but not found in /usr.
Locally installed software must be placed within /usr/local rather than
/usr unless it is being installed to replace or upgrade software in /usr.

[1]http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRLOCALLOCALHIERARCHY

But what they're not accounting for is the RPM database.
As I explained above: if you wipe /, you'll also wipe the RPM database
and hence, the files of your package in /usr/local won't be in the RPM
database (which is the same as having installed it with make install
in the first place).

 Ie, SuSE does not use /usr/local because it is reserved for *you*. ;-)

No, I stick with what I said: /usr/local is for what you install with
make install, not for RPMs (including RPMs built with checkinstall).

 One more detail: you will see that users may have the /usr/local/bin first 
 in their path, but often root does not even have it included - on purpose 
 so as to execute official programs only.

Define official. Packages redistributed in the openSUSE Build Service,
Packman, Guru, suser-*, etc... are all prefixed to /usr and not /usr/local.

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[opensuse] Fwd: Linux Release of the Retroshare serverless Instant Messenger (v0.3.0rc1-ls)

2007-04-30 Thread Till Weber
Linux Release of the Retroshare serverless open source Instant Messenger:

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1725247forum_id=618174
http://retroshare.sf.net

Retroshare is a serverless Instant Messenger for Messaging, Chat, Groupchat, 
Email and File Sharing. It allows online and offline Messaging.

IP adresses of a Friend are found in the next online session automatically with 
a DHT.

The Linux Version runs on a 233 MHZ Laptop even with QT gui, a FLTK gui is as 
an alternative as well available. The applicaiton is transalated into more than 
15 languages and all OLPC Launch countries are available (except Lybia atm).

Retroshare is available for Linux and Windows and new Developers are 
appreciated in the team.

See the Screenshop on a linux 233 MHZ (e.g. OLPC) Laptop here.
(last picture)
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/en_screenshots.html
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/OLPC-retroshare-simulation_233MHZ.jpg

Retroshare was tested under Debian Redhat Distros and Opensuse and 233MHZ 
Laptop.


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OLPC-Proposal-Threads
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[opensuse] Bluetooth security

2007-04-30 Thread James Mohr
Hi All!

I am running SUSE 10.0 Professional and I am printing to an HP Deskjet 460 
that I access using Bluetooth. When I set it up, I saw no options to define a 
key or anything else to prevent other people from using this device. Although 
I am not too worried about my neighbors printing without my permission, I 
would still like to be able to secure this connection. 

I would appreaciate any pointers and/or handholding.

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Re: [opensuse] building RPMs

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2007-04-29 at 21:32 -0400, James Knott wrote:

  another partition), but I don't see the utility of /home/local :-?
 
 So that there's only one partition that has to be protected.  In my main
 system, it's an entirely separate drive.

Ah, I see. :-)

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Re: [opensuse] building RPMs

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 09:20 +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote:

 Carlos E. R. wrote:

 No, I mean it: use /usr, not /usr/local
 
 So, you make a package foo yourself, e.g. with checkinstall.
 You prefix it to /usr/local because you don't redistribute it, because
 it's a local package (whatever that means: a package is either in the
 RPM database or not, there is no local RPM database).

I know there is no local rpm database. So what?

For one thing, I always update the system, so the database remains. I 
still keep packages I installed five years ago, listed in the rpm list.

And even if I don't, I will still have my programs; orphaned from the 
database, but still there. If they sit in /usr, I loose them, which is 
worse.



 and hence, the files of your package in /usr/local won't be in the RPM
 database (which is the same as having installed it with make install
 in the first place).
 
  Ie, SuSE does not use /usr/local because it is reserved for *you*. ;-)
 
 No, I stick with what I said: /usr/local is for what you install with
 make install, not for RPMs (including RPMs built with checkinstall).

And I stick with my opinion of using /usr/local - we agree to disagree :-)


If you worry about conflicts, then leave the local paths last. The non 
local version will be used.



  One more detail: you will see that users may have the /usr/local/bin first
  in their path, but often root does not even have it included - on purpose
  so as to execute official programs only.
 
 Define official. Packages redistributed in the openSUSE Build Service,
 Packman, Guru, suser-*, etc... are all prefixed to /usr and not /usr/local.

Well, let's say packagers that provide official or semioficial packages. 
Whatever. Notice the quotes, meaning the meaning of official is not 
strict.

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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 02:13 -0400, Bob S wrote:

  dd is dumb: if you take the image of a 100 GB disk and dd it to a new 200
  GB disk, you loose 100 GB.
 
 OK Carlos, many thanks for that. Didn't realize that dd could do that. 
 Thought 
 it just copied files and directories to be restored to existing partitions.

dd donesn't know directories nor files. It copies from start to end 
everything, including the inodes, the partition table, bootsectors, empty 
space... everything in the range. Even the errors.


   I am thinking when the drive is returned (they will have formatted it)
   That I will have to format it again to ext3, and build my partitions
   exactly as they were, and I am not sure how I can duplicate it exactly.
 
  Does it matter?
 
  Does it matter if a partition is a bit bigger or smaller, even if it is a
  diferent type? Linux doesn't care, it will work anyway. You can use the
  chance to change your partition types/sizes.
 
 WelYou're right. It doesn't really matter if dd (or others) recreate 
 the drive as the original was. I was worried that everything would be just 
 run together in one big partition with no space between/after the copied 
 partitions. 

Carefull! It doesn't matter with tars (or dars). It does with dd.

 So, what you are saying is just restore and everything will be taken care of 
 automagically, but if I want to, I can change partition sizes and restore to 
 the newly created partitions on an individual basis.

Certainly not automatically.

You can recreate your partitions as you wish, even a diferent number of 
partitions - provided you use a restore procedure that copies directories 
and files, and that there is enough space.

You are copying things from one filesystem to another filesystem 
structure, that will have the same /, /usr, /home, directories. The copy 
programs do not care how/where the real partitions below are.

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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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El 2007-04-30 a las 08:26 +0200, Petr Klíma escribió:

  [You forgot to email to the list]


 Carlos E. R. wrote:
...

  Does it matter if a partition is a bit bigger or smaller, even if it is a 
  diferent type? Linux doesn't care, it will work anyway. You can use the 
  chance to change your partition types/sizes.
 
 Well, Linux doesn't care when the partition is big enough - greater or
 equal to the size of filesystem. When the partition gets even a tiny bit
 smaller than the filesystem, you've got a problem, however you won't
 experience it until you fill up the disk. Once the disk is almost full,
 you'll get complaints about attempt to access beyond end of device or
 similar. And you end'up with corrupted filesystem

That is true if you use dd - which the OP didn't. If you use a tarred 
filesystem it does not matter at all. The destination my be smaller, as 
long as it suffices.

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Re: [opensuse] some returned mail

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2007-04-29 at 23:07 -0500, M Harris wrote:

 hi folks,
 I have been filtering returned mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to /dev/null 
 for about a week now... it looks like his mail box is full... 
 
 Are the rest of you seeing this?

No.

 I have a related question for someone who is in the know... I also receive 
 notes from corporate people who are on vacation and have delegated their 
 mail... when I send a list some post I get back that person's delegate... is 
 that because I have my reply-to set?

I do receive them sometimes, and I don't sent my reply-to. Those are 
people that define a dumb autoresponder when going out of the office, that 
is so dumb as to autorespond to list mail.


But I have my filters as well.

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Re: [opensuse] Trying to recover a hard drive

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2007-04-29 at 19:54 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:

 Here's a problem one of my friends sent me, his words.

Well, I don't even know what is the problem...

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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Petr Klíma
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 I am thinking when the drive is returned (they will have formatted it) That I
 will have to format it again to ext3, and build my partitions exactly as they
 were, and I am not sure how I can duplicate it exactly.
 
 Does it matter?
 
 Does it matter if a partition is a bit bigger or smaller, even if it is a 
 diferent type? Linux doesn't care, it will work anyway. You can use the 
 chance to change your partition types/sizes.

Well, Linux doesn't care when the partition is big enough - greater or
equal to the size of filesystem. When the partition gets even a tiny bit
smaller than the filesystem, you've got a problem, however you won't
experience it until you fill up the disk. Once the disk is almost full,
you'll get complaints about attempt to access beyond end of device or
similar. And you end'up with corrupted filesystem

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Re: [opensuse] Trying to recover a hard drive

2007-04-30 Thread Rikard Johnels
On Monday 30 April 2007 12:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Sunday 2007-04-29 at 19:54 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
  Here's a problem one of my friends sent me, his words.

 Well, I don't even know what is the problem...

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That seems like a bootpartition (ext2 format)
If you do a fdisk -l on the drive what do you see?
There ought to be more partitions there. (Unless there were other drives in 
the machine, and the rest of the system is on another drive.


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Re: [opensuse] How to edit Grub in openSUSE 10.2?

2007-04-30 Thread Billie Erin Walsh
David Gregg wrote:
 Basically I have a dual boot with XP Pro and openSUSE 10.2 and I'd
 like to change the default boot options, but I don't know what
 commands to use in terminal to edit it. I already know about sudo and
 that the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst but both gedit and kate do not
 seem to work... maybe I just have my syntax off... gedit reports
 bad/unknown command and kate can't connect t x server...

 Any help is appreciated.

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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 12:38 +0200, Petr Klíma wrote:

  Does it matter?
  
  Does it matter if a partition is a bit bigger or smaller, even if it is a 
  diferent type? Linux doesn't care, it will work anyway. You can use the 
  chance to change your partition types/sizes.
 
 Well, Linux doesn't care when the partition is big enough - greater or
 equal to the size of filesystem. When the partition gets even a tiny bit
 smaller than the filesystem, you've got a problem, however you won't
 experience it until you fill up the disk. Once the disk is almost full,
 you'll get complaints about attempt to access beyond end of device or
 similar. And you end'up with corrupted filesystem

That's true only if the backup/restore is made with dd, ie, it is an 
image - and the OP used dar, sot that's a non issue.

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Re: [opensuse] Trying to recover a hard drive

2007-04-30 Thread Fergus Wilde
On Monday 30 April 2007 02:54, Pueblo Native wrote:
 Here's a problem one of my friends sent me, his words.

 i had a fedora 2 box crap out so i took the HD out and put it in a USB
 enclosure to plug into another fedora 2 box.

 i mounted the drive but the only options i see when i LS it is:
 config-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 grub
 initrd-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 kernal.h
 lost+found
 System.map-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 vmlinux-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl

I think he has in fact mounted only one partition on the drive, probably 
whichever one he mounted as /boot. If the USB mounted damaged disk were to 
be /dev/sd1, for example, he should have a go at mount and 
listing /dev/sd1b, /dev/sd1c, etc., until he finds the one with his data or 
other vital matter on it. If it were me, I'd then copy the data safely off, 
check to make good and sure that I'd *really* got all the vital data off, and 
then start again with a fresh install on that 'crapped out' disk. That's if I 
had reason to believe the crapping out to be software rather than hardware 
related. If the disk is knackered then he would be throwing good time after 
bad by doing anything other than discarding it.
HTH
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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread jdd

Carlos E. R. wrote:

dd is dumb: if you take the image of a 100 GB disk and dd it to a new 200
GB disk, you loose 100 GB.


for sure.

but each system have the pros and cons.

using cp or tar makes you at risk of losing a linked file or a . 
(dot) invisible file. It's faily difficult to figure out what is 
important and what is not.


dd (or similar) make a true backup: all is backed up, and the result 
can be gzipped for space saving (see also partimage).


the only really safe system is a mix of the two, with in mind the fact 
than what is important is not backup but restore...


use dd (even ddrescue if some disk sectors can be damaged).

with the new drive:

* partition the new drive. Get a temporary partition at least as big 
as the old drive. use dd to recover on this partition. Now all your 
data is available. Keep this as long as you can (several years is nice)


* on an _other_ partition, copy all what you think is usefull. be 
strict, copy only the really necessary, if ever you need more it's 
already available. I use a similar sheme when I change distro. I 
frequently go on the old partition two years later, when I happen to 
use an old rarely used script :-) (or the old .signature I had two 
years ago...)


jdd

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[opensuse] Best way to install Codecs on OpenSuse

2007-04-30 Thread Jerry Feldman
Lately my wife has been using my OpenSuSE 10.2 laptop. Now she wants to
watch DVDs on it. I did this in my old laptop a few years ago. 
I can install a new version of the xine library from
http://www.xinehq.de/. I'm just looking for some general comments from
those of you who have successfully installed it. I'd most likely use
Kaffeine to view the DVDs. 
(I know this has been discussed before).

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Re: [opensuse] Trying to recover a hard drive

2007-04-30 Thread Pueblo Native
Fergus Wilde wrote:
 On Monday 30 April 2007 02:54, Pueblo Native wrote:
   
 Here's a problem one of my friends sent me, his words.

 i had a fedora 2 box crap out so i took the HD out and put it in a USB
 enclosure to plug into another fedora 2 box.

 i mounted the drive but the only options i see when i LS it is:
 config-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 grub
 initrd-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 kernal.h
 lost+found
 System.map-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 vmlinux-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 

 I think he has in fact mounted only one partition on the drive, probably 
 whichever one he mounted as /boot. If the USB mounted damaged disk were to 
 be /dev/sd1, for example, he should have a go at mount and 
 listing /dev/sd1b, /dev/sd1c, etc., until he finds the one with his data or 
 other vital matter on it. If it were me, I'd then copy the data safely off, 
 check to make good and sure that I'd *really* got all the vital data off, and 
 then start again with a fresh install on that 'crapped out' disk. That's if I 
 had reason to believe the crapping out to be software rather than hardware 
 related. If the disk is knackered then he would be throwing good time after 
 bad by doing anything other than discarding it.
 HTH
 Fergus

   

Thanks for the advice.  Usually the USB drives I see are FAT, so I
didn't even think of it as having more than one partition.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to install Codecs on OpenSuse

2007-04-30 Thread Pueblo Native
Jerry Feldman wrote:
 Lately my wife has been using my OpenSuSE 10.2 laptop. Now she wants to
 watch DVDs on it. I did this in my old laptop a few years ago. 
 I can install a new version of the xine library from
 http://www.xinehq.de/. I'm just looking for some general comments from
 those of you who have successfully installed it. I'd most likely use
 Kaffeine to view the DVDs. 
 (I know this has been discussed before).

   

From my experience, the best place to get those codecs is off the
packman repository.

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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread riccardo35
On Mon 30 Apr 2007 11:33, jdd wrote:
 using cp or tar makes you at risk of losing a linked file or a .
 (dot) invisible file.

 - over many years, TAR has worked faultlessly for me :-


  tar clf - . | ( umask 0; cd /mnt; tar xvf - )


 [ where  /mnt represents 'where you wish to send the stuff to'  ]



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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 13:33 +0200, jdd wrote:

 Carlos E. R. wrote:
  dd is dumb: if you take the image of a 100 GB disk and dd it to a new 200
  GB disk, you loose 100 GB.
 
 for sure.
 
 but each system have the pros and cons.
 
 using cp or tar makes you at risk of losing a linked file or a . (dot)
 invisible file. It's faily difficult to figure out what is important and what
 is not.

Er... you should not loose any file nor link - if you use the right 
options. Everything is saved. You might loose extended attributes, though.


 dd (or similar) make a true backup: all is backed up, and the result can be
 gzipped for space saving (see also partimage).

It even stores empty space! It has the big dissadvantage of needing the 
destination be of the same size as the original - and that's a situation 
that doesn't always occur. A tgz is more versatile.

When I do a dd, I mount the resulting image file in a loop, and use mc 
to copy over the insides. I don't dd back the image.

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Re: [opensuse] Rebuilding wlan-kmp

2007-04-30 Thread Vince L
On Sunday 29 April 2007 21:09, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm running OpenSUSE 10.2 on a dell 6400. I would like to upgrade
 ipw3945 to the 1.2.0 version, I modified the wlan-kmp.src, but
 rebuilding it i get this errors:

If you modify it, you take responsibility!!!


 make: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.18.8-0.1-obj/x86_64/debug'

Looks like you are doing a debug build. If you are not sure whether you want 
debug, then you definitely don't

 make -C ../../../linux-2.6.18.8-0.1
 O=../linux-2.6.18.8-0.1-obj/x86_64/debug modules
   CC [M]  /usr/src/packages/BUILD/obj/debug/ipw3945-1.2.0/ipw3945.o
 /usr/src/packages/BUILD/obj/debug/ipw3945-1.2.0/ipw3945.c:71:2: error:
 #error Incomplete build system. If you are building as part of your

Look at line 71 of ipw3945.c, and you might find an error, possibly due to 
debug build rather than normal build. The number of errors suggests you have 
problems with header files, given that the source would be expected to 
compile, apart from your changes
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to install Codecs on OpenSuse

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 07:38 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote:

 Lately my wife has been using my OpenSuSE 10.2 laptop. Now she wants to
 watch DVDs on it. I did this in my old laptop a few years ago. 
 I can install a new version of the xine library from
 http://www.xinehq.de/. I'm just looking for some general comments from
 those of you who have successfully installed it. I'd most likely use
 Kaffeine to view the DVDs. 

If you like kaffeine, then go ahead and install xine libs from there or 
from packman, removing the xine libs installed from SuSE, because 
kaffeine uses xine libs as the engine. Xine has lots of frontends (for 
instance, gxine, which has a working plugin for firebird).

 (I know this has been discussed before).

Only a few thousands times.

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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread jdd

Carlos E. R. wrote:

When I do a dd, I mount the resulting image file in a loop, and use mc 
to copy over the insides. I don't dd back the image.


it's a very good way, but not all systems allow easy loop mount (even 
if this is possible also on windows)


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 14:31 +0200, jdd wrote:

 Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
  When I do a dd, I mount the resulting image file in a loop, and use mc to
  copy over the insides. I don't dd back the image.
 
 it's a very good way, but not all systems allow easy loop mount (even if this
 is possible also on windows)

I loop mounted ext2, ext3, reiserfs, xfs, iso9something... applied fsck to 
recover badly damaged filesystems... works fine. I haven't yet found a 
filesystem type which can not be loopmounted.


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to install Codecs on OpenSuse

2007-04-30 Thread Teruel de Campo MD
Peter,

This article will help you

http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/60/

Ciao

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On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 07:07 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:
 On 4/30/07, Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Lately my wife has been using my OpenSuSE 10.2 laptop. Now she wants to
  watch DVDs on it. I did this in my old laptop a few years ago.
  I can install a new version of the xine library from
  http://www.xinehq.de/. I'm just looking for some general comments from
  those of you who have successfully installed it. I'd most likely use
  Kaffeine to view the DVDs.
  (I know this has been discussed before).
 
 
 http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats
 http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/60/
 
 Peter

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[opensuse] Ooffice startup error

2007-04-30 Thread Dr Gavin Tabor
Dear All,

I've recently installed OpenSUSE 10.2. Everything now works ... sort
of ... except Open Office. When I start that (as an ordinary user) I get
the following error:

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/usr/lib/ooo-2.0/program/javaldx: 
/opt/foam/OpenFOAM/linux/gcc-3.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not 
found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6)
/usr/lib/ooo-2.0/program/pagein: 
/opt/foam/OpenFOAM/linux/gcc-3.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not 
found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6)
/usr/lib/ooo-2.0/program/soffice.bin: 
/opt/foam/OpenFOAM/linux/gcc-3.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not 
found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6)

** (process:8478): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary /
abnormal early exit ...

Surprisingly, if I start ooffice when logged on as root, it starts fine.
Any suggestions about what I might be doing wrong with this?

Gavin

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Re: [opensuse] Ooffice startup error

2007-04-30 Thread Pueblo Native
Are you downloading it, or installing it as a RPM?  The latter should
eliminate any of those problems.
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Re: [opensuse] Ooffice startup error

2007-04-30 Thread Dr Gavin Tabor
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 07:07 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
 Are you downloading it, or installing it as a RPM?  The latter should
 eliminate any of those problems.

I put it in as part of my clean install of the system, from the OpenSUSE
install DVD.. I did try installing it as an RPM from OpenOffice
directly, but I'm not sure if it installed correctly; certainly it gave
the same error afterwards. (I can try again!)

Gavin

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Re: [opensuse] Ooffice startup error

2007-04-30 Thread Gavin Chester
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 07:07 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
 Are you downloading it, or installing it as a RPM?  The latter should
 eliminate any of those problems.

Can't go wrong with that advice, but the only thing I would add is to
switch to 'smart' for package management. Once you add the useful set of
repositories it leaves yast for dead and will 'smartly' resolve and
dependency issue like you saw with OO.o  If unsure, google for 'smart'
on suse.

Gavin 

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Re: [opensuse] KDE OR X HANGS

2007-04-30 Thread Siegfried Wolkenstein
Hello,

I haven't mixed SUSE kde with stock kde...

killing won't work... kill -9 proc number doesn't work... in fact it is 
impossible to kill any of the X processes...
Yesterday I updated every rpm-package I have installed... Just now It happend 
once again. This time it was kopete, which caused the trouble (at least I 
think so): I was sending a message over the icqprotocol and suddenly the the 
window turned pale and freezed. Then the keyboard got stuck and I did a 
ctrl-alt-backspace, since all the other keys got barred. 
The ctrl-alt-backspace let the X disappear (but the process was still running) 
but after that it didn't restart. Then the usual: changing runlevels, kill -9 
and some other useless stuff. Eventually a reset did the trick.. g!

How can kopete upset the kernel in such a way, that one can no more kill any X 
processes? The keyboard got freezed and I had to do a restart (which didn't 
work - reset on the mainboard)

For now I will try to install a new kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger package (I 
already have kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger-3.5.5-41.2). Probably SuSE 10.3 
will provide a new one - including kopete 0.12.4

Any suggestions? New Kernel (the one shipping with opensuse10.3)?

It's got to be a kernel problem!?? What might encourage the system to no more 
react to kill signals? Tasklet/Softirq problem?

After all I have a standard openSUSE 10.2 system here on my Athlon X2, it 
might be possible, that other folks get irritated by the same problem (I am 
just wondering whether I did something naughty here with my OS. Actually I am 
certain not to have done anything special)!

Is there a big difference between stack kopete and 
kdenetwork3-instantmessenger?

PS: Thank you for the message M Harris!

On Monday 30 April 2007 05:13, M Harris wrote:
 On Sunday 29 April 2007 09:56, Siegfried Wolkenstein wrote:
  sometimes kde or x just hangs I can not even kill any kde programme
  after it happens. I am able to kill X by doing a ctrl-alt-backspace,
  but after that, X doesn't restart - even if I change the runlevel from 5
  to 3 and then to 5 again. After reinitialising runlevel 5, X simply won't
  start...

   This is very unusual. toggling between runlevel 3  5 normally fixes
 things that go crash in the X night.

  If I try to restart the machine it hangs while trying to kill any
  programme started in the X-Shells...

   You will need to find the process number that has everything tied up...
 killing them thoughtfully one by one (from the bottom) is one way to handle
 this... a little experience will tell you which to try first... but
 obviously anything having to do with X, kde, or anything that may touch the
 video in any obscure way (gaming, etc). If the normal kill doesn't get it
 then a hard kill will be required (use with caution):
   kill -9 proc numberas root.

   Have you mixed and matched SUSE kde with stock kde?





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Re: [opensuse] delay boot process

2007-04-30 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 13:16 +0100, Dylan wrote:
 On Thursday 26 April 2007, Evan Ingram wrote:
  Hi there
 
  how can i insert a time delay into the booting of a server?

Change the:

timeout 8

line in /boot/grub/menu.lst. The value is the delay in seconds.


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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread jdd

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:


When I do a dd, I mount the resulting image file in a loop, and use mc to
copy over the insides. I don't dd back the image.

it's a very good way, but not all systems allow easy loop mount (even if this
is possible also on windows)


I loop mounted ext2, ext3, reiserfs, xfs, iso9something... applied fsck to 
recover badly damaged filesystems... works fine. I haven't yet found a 
filesystem type which can not be loopmounted.


I was not thinking of _file_ system, but _operating_ system, namely 
windows 98 :-)


using fsck on a loop mounted file system is a very good idea


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 15:53 +0200, jdd wrote:

   Carlos E. R. wrote:
  
When I do a dd, I mount the resulting image file in a loop, and 
use mc to copy over the insides. I don't dd back the image.
   it's a very good way, but not all systems allow easy loop mount 
   (even if this is possible also on windows)
  
  I loop mounted ext2, ext3, reiserfs, xfs, iso9something... applied fsck to
  recover badly damaged filesystems... works fine. I haven't yet found a
  filesystem type which can not be loopmounted.
 
 I was not thinking of _file_ system, but _operating_ system, namely windows 98
 :-)

But what do I care if windows can not loopmount? That's their problem, not 
mine :-P


 using fsck on a loop mounted file system is a very good idea

This way we can try reconstructing a difficult problem. If fsck fails one 
way, I make another copy and retry.

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Re: [opensuse] Trying to recover a hard drive

2007-04-30 Thread Fergus Wilde
On Monday 30 April 2007 12:53, Pueblo Native wrote:
 Fergus Wilde wrote:
  On Monday 30 April 2007 02:54, Pueblo Native wrote:
  Here's a problem one of my friends sent me, his words.
 
  i had a fedora 2 box crap out so i took the HD out and put it in a USB
  enclosure to plug into another fedora 2 box.
 
  i mounted the drive but the only options i see when i LS it is:
  config-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
  grub
  initrd-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
  kernal.h
  lost+found
  System.map-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
  vmlinux-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
  vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
 
  I think he has in fact mounted only one partition on the drive, probably
  whichever one he mounted as /boot. If the USB mounted damaged disk were
  to be /dev/sd1, for example, he should have a go at mount and
  listing /dev/sd1b, /dev/sd1c, etc., 

Sorry, of course I meant to type /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc., not sd1a ... but 
the principle is the same, hope it works out,
Best
Fergus

  until he finds the one with his data 
  or other vital matter on it. If it were me, I'd then copy the data safely
  off, check to make good and sure that I'd *really* got all the vital data
  off, and then start again with a fresh install on that 'crapped out'
  disk. That's if I had reason to believe the crapping out to be software
  rather than hardware related. If the disk is knackered then he would be
  throwing good time after bad by doing anything other than discarding it.
  HTH
  Fergus

 Thanks for the advice.  Usually the USB drives I see are FAT, so I
 didn't even think of it as having more than one partition.

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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 30 April 2007 05:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Monday 2007-04-30 at 13:33 +0200, jdd wrote:
  Carlos E. R. wrote:
   dd is dumb: if you take the image of a 100 GB disk and dd it to a
   new 200 GB disk, you loose 100 GB.
 
  for sure.
 
  but each system have the pros and cons.
 
  using cp or tar makes you at risk of losing a linked file or a .
  (dot) invisible file. It's faily difficult to figure out what is
  important and what is not.

 Er... you should not loose any file nor link - if you use the right
 options. Everything is saved. You might loose extended attributes,
 though.

The --preserve option of cp (along with the -d and -R) using value all 
plus the --attributes option will include extended attributes options 
and allow 100% faithful duplication.

Cp can also create sparse files, in circumstances when that might 
matter:

 --sparse=WHEN
 control creation of sparse files


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Re: [opensuse] KDE OR X HANGS

2007-04-30 Thread S Glasoe
On Monday April 30 2007 8:41:34 am Siegfried Wolkenstein wrote:
 Hello,

 I haven't mixed SUSE kde with stock kde...

 killing won't work... kill -9 proc number doesn't work... in fact it is
 impossible to kill any of the X processes...
 Yesterday I updated every rpm-package I have installed... Just now It
 happend once again. This time it was kopete, which caused the trouble (at
 least I think so): I was sending a message over the icqprotocol and
 suddenly the the window turned pale and freezed. Then the keyboard got
 stuck and I did a ctrl-alt-backspace, since all the other keys got barred.
 The ctrl-alt-backspace let the X disappear (but the process was still
 running) but after that it didn't restart. Then the usual: changing
 runlevels, kill -9 and some other useless stuff. Eventually a reset did the
 trick.. g!

This sounds like a video driver issue. Where the system totally locks up while 
doing anything and only a reboot will bring it back. I suggest you  
re-evaluate your video card driver, monitor settings and sax2 settings in 
general.

For example, if you are using ATI's fglrx driver, go back to the radeon driver 
and see if the system is stable. 
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Re: [opensuse] Ooffice startup error

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 13:52 +0100, Dr Gavin Tabor wrote:

 I've recently installed OpenSUSE 10.2. Everything now works ... sort
 of ... except Open Office. When I start that (as an ordinary user) I get
 the following error:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]ooffice
 /usr/lib/ooo-2.0/program/javaldx: 
 /opt/foam/OpenFOAM/linux/gcc-3.4.3/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not 
 found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6)

The problem is not OOo, but OpenFOAM. What is that? It doesn't come from 
openSuSE 10.2. Investigate that program, it is requesting the gcc compiler 
to build something, and that's not the business of OOo.

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[opensuse] Re: 10.2 is up and flying

2007-04-30 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Kai Ponte wrote:
 On Sunday 29 April 2007 06:29:22 pm Bin Hou wrote:
 2007/4/30, Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Okay, my mother now has a newer version of SUSE than I. Her system is
 now on 10.2 and all seems well. Thanks!

 http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070430_underdog.jpg


 I like the new menu. It is actually nicer than Vista (...which is
 another story altogether...)
 
 But I think the new menu is not convenient to find something like
 applications. :-)
 
 Yes, the new menu takes a bit of getting used to. I like adding apps to the 
 main menu and I like how the applications menu is sticky when going to sub 
 menus.
 
 I ended up putting her in the older style, since she was having trouble 
 getting to important apps like KSoduku, Patience and LBreakout. 
 
 You know how it is with those older people...

It's very easy to add things to the Favorites, which is what shows up when
you first click on the Gecko. Just right click on the menu item and select
Add to Favorites. Now, it is right there!

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[opensuse] Re: How to set up Dual Monitors?

2007-04-30 Thread Jonathan Arnold
David Gregg wrote:
 From simply plugging in the monitor and booting into openSUSE 10.2 I
 can use both displays and the move windows between them, however, they
 have their own kmenu's as well as quick launch and desktop buttons...
 I don't seem to see any settings for working with dual monitors so any
 advice/help would be very appreciated.
 
 David

How well openSuSE worked with my dual monitor setup was one of the main
reasons I stuck with it while I was on my distro hunt.  If you go into
YaST, Hardware, Graphics Card and Monitor, there's a section for Dual
Head Mode. Activate it and click the Configure... button. Select the
Xinerama Multihead and it should work like you want.
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Re: [opensuse] KDE OR X HANGS

2007-04-30 Thread Siegfried Wolkenstein
Hi Stan,

great to read this!

I just found out, that there is a new driver available for NVIDIA and I will 
install it immediately...
I use Nvidia 6600.

It could be a graphics driver problem, but it used to work before... How can 
the graphics-instructions - issued by kopete (not directly of course) - bring 
down X? How does that work? And also it doesn't happen on a regular basis.

Thanks!

On Monday 30 April 2007 16:14, S Glasoe wrote:
 On Monday April 30 2007 8:41:34 am Siegfried Wolkenstein wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I haven't mixed SUSE kde with stock kde...
 
  killing won't work... kill -9 proc number doesn't work... in fact it is
  impossible to kill any of the X processes...
  Yesterday I updated every rpm-package I have installed... Just now It
  happend once again. This time it was kopete, which caused the trouble (at
  least I think so): I was sending a message over the icqprotocol and
  suddenly the the window turned pale and freezed. Then the keyboard got
  stuck and I did a ctrl-alt-backspace, since all the other keys got
  barred. The ctrl-alt-backspace let the X disappear (but the process was
  still running) but after that it didn't restart. Then the usual: changing
  runlevels, kill -9 and some other useless stuff. Eventually a reset did
  the trick.. g!

 This sounds like a video driver issue. Where the system totally locks up
 while doing anything and only a reboot will bring it back. I suggest you
 re-evaluate your video card driver, monitor settings and sax2 settings in
 general.

 For example, if you are using ATI's fglrx driver, go back to the radeon
 driver and see if the system is stable.
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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread jdd

Randall R Schulz wrote:


Cp can also create sparse files (...)


what I meaned was that one don't always know if it's a good idea to 
copy links/masked files. it may be a very bad idea to do so in some 
circomstances, when you don't know how will the backup restored.


of course if you know exacltly what you do, you can copy anything. but 
who know always :-((


just one year ago, I managed to crash a backup, ending with original 
files with zero length and no backup at all!!!


I never really understood was arise, but I think I had cross links 
(links from a partitio  to an other and vice-versa)


now I double check :-))

jdd


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Re: [opensuse] KDE OR X HANGS

2007-04-30 Thread S Glasoe
On Monday April 30 2007 9:44:07 am Siegfried Wolkenstein wrote:
 Hi Stan,

 great to read this!

 I just found out, that there is a new driver available for NVIDIA and I
 will install it immediately...
 I use Nvidia 6600.

 It could be a graphics driver problem, but it used to work before... How
 can the graphics-instructions - issued by kopete (not directly of course) -
 bring down X? How does that work? And also it doesn't happen on a regular
 basis.

 Thanks!

Any graphics use may cause this type of lockup _IF_ this is the real problem. 
You may want to get the previous driver to the one you are currently using 
too, just in case the latest-greatest doesn't work either. 

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 is up and flying

2007-04-30 Thread Kai Ponte
On Sunday 29 April 2007 08:17:24 pm M Harris wrote:
 On Sunday 29 April 2007 16:16, Kai Ponte wrote:
  I like the new menu. It is actually nicer than Vista (...which is  
  another story altogether...)

   I can see the  /.  headline now...  district IT manager loads openSUSE 
 on
 moms machine at home...  yes.

LOL!

Well, you know, she's been running SUSE over a year now.  There is no need 
for /. to pick it up. 



   Now then, if you'd have loaded Ubuntu on your mom's machine  /.  would
 actually have published it...!   :-)))

Oh, of course!

She called last night and told me she's very happy with KSoduku.  

You know how it is with those senior citizens... :P


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[opensuse] Scanning via network

2007-04-30 Thread Clayton

Im trying to help a friedn set up his computer on 10.2.  He has a
Canon MP600R printer, scanner, kitchen sink.  It's set up as a network
device, and connected to his router.  We've setup network printing
(using the Canon 4200 driver) and it works perfectly.

The next step is the scanner.  It is also a network device.  I know
the IP address of the scanner/printer (used it to configure the
printer) but.. I dont really know how to set up the scanner as a
network device.  The YAST scanner setup has an option to enable or use
a network scanner, but it seems to be expecting a scanner daemon
running on another server whatever the Canon scanner is doing, it
seems that it isn't providing the right answer back...

Has anyone else played with network scanners?  and maybe got the
scanner on the Canon MP600R working?


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[opensuse] Re: Scanning via network

2007-04-30 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Clayton wrote:
 Im trying to help a friedn set up his computer on 10.2.  He has a
 Canon MP600R printer, scanner, kitchen sink.  It's set up as a network
 device, and connected to his router.  We've setup network printing
 (using the Canon 4200 driver) and it works perfectly.
 
 The next step is the scanner.  It is also a network device.  I know
 the IP address of the scanner/printer (used it to configure the
 printer) but.. I dont really know how to set up the scanner as a
 network device.  The YAST scanner setup has an option to enable or use
 a network scanner, but it seems to be expecting a scanner daemon
 running on another server whatever the Canon scanner is doing, it
 seems that it isn't providing the right answer back...
 
 Has anyone else played with network scanners?  

Yes, but I am afraid, they are from HP. But they work, especially the HP
kitchen sink devices.

and maybe got the
 scanner on the Canon MP600R working?

No.
Anyway, either Canon supplies a driver for network scanning (like HP
does) or you find a possibility to connect the device locally to a
computer (most probably via usb), make scanning working there with sane
and finally use sane via the network.

Kind regards
Eberhard

 
 
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Re: [opensuse] Issues with the latest samba update

2007-04-30 Thread Moby



G.T.Smith wrote:

Moby wrote:
  

3-0-24-18-1-56 worked fine on SuSE 10.0 and OpenSuSE 10.2 systems without
exhibiting the problems mentioned below. The problems surface when
Samba is
upgraded to samba-3.0.24-22.1.57.

1) On OpenSuSE 10.2 systems:
Using samba completely standalone with an smbpasswd back end. After
upgrading,
cannot map drives from Windows systems. Windows clients say Path not
found.
Looking in Samba logs with debugging logs shows:
[2007/04/27 12:56:06, 10] smbd/msdfs.c:parse_dfs_path(54)
parse_dfs_path: hostname: whou102mob2
[2007/04/27 12:56:06, 3] smbd/msdfs.c:get_referred_path(527)
get_referred_path: .root$. in dfs path \whou102mob2\root$ is not a dfs
root.
[2007/04/27 12:56:06, 3] smbd/error.c:error_packet(146)
error packet at smbd/trans2.c(4977) cmd=50 (SMBtrans2)
NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE

Samba logs and smb.conf is available if needed.

2) On Suse 10,0 systems:
Using Samba integrated with AD via Kerberos, using idmap_rid. See same
errors
as above after upgrading.

OpenSuSE 10.2 systems integrated with AD via Kerberos and using
idmap_rid work
fine (at least so far).
Has anyone else seen issues with this latest Samba update?  And also
would anyone know where I can find
3-0-24-18-1-56 RPMS?

Thanks in advance for any help,



I believe I am up to date with the latest 'official' release for
openSuSE  - 3.0.23d.19.2 So this suggests  you are either using the
compiled binaries from the samba site or you compiled from the site
source. If former I would compile from source and see what happens. If
the binary is compiled with different versions of gcc or the relevant
libraries to your intalled base, you can introduce subtle bugs.

I would only consider upgrading in this way if something was broken, or
features were available that are required, especially if others use the
system. (If it aint broke dont fix it).
  

Thanks for the response G..T.
Yes, this is the unofficial cutting edge release - my production 
systems are on the official release with no issues.  I just wanted to 
point out issues with this cutting edge release in case someone else 
had seen them - and perhaps had a solution.


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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 16:55 +0200, jdd wrote:

 I never really understood was arise, but I think I had cross links (links from
 a partitio  to an other and vice-versa)

It is safe to copy the link but not the file that the link is pointing 
to. On the other hand, when doing a backup, you might find out that the 
backup is full of links which are not saved elsewhere... so one has got to 
be careful.

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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 07:14 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

  Er... you should not loose any file nor link - if you use the right
  options. Everything is saved. You might loose extended attributes,
  though.
 
 The --preserve option of cp (along with the -d and -R) using value all 
 plus the --attributes option will include extended attributes options 
 and allow 100% faithful duplication.

True, but I was thinking of tar and friends.


 Cp can also create sparse files, in circumstances when that might 
 matter:

I think some p2p programs use them when retrieving files in random chunks.

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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 30 April 2007 11:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Monday 2007-04-30 at 16:55 +0200, jdd wrote:
  I never really understood was arise, but I think I had cross links
  (links from a partitio  to an other and vice-versa)

 It is safe to copy the link but not the file that the link is
 pointing to. On the other hand, when doing a backup, you might find
 out that the backup is full of links which are not saved elsewhere...
 so one has got to be careful.

It's important to distinguish hard links from symbolic links.

Hard links are fundamentally restricted from ever crossing file system / 
device / volume boundaries. This is because all the hard links to a 
file are co-equal. It's not that one is the file and others 
are links. This kind of link is the reference from a directory entry 
to an inode and takes the form of a simple integer index in the inode 
table. Because it has this form, in which the device / file system 
volume is implicit and must be equal to the one on which the directory 
entry resides. Manually created hard links cannot refer to directories. 
The only hard links to directories are those created automatically when 
directories are created or moved (specifically, the link from the 
parent to the directory, the . entry in the directory and the .. 
entries in all immediate sub-directories).

Symbolic links _are_ asymmetric. A symbolic link is quite distinct from 
the entity to which it refers (which may by any kind of file system 
entity, including directories). A symbolic link is just a plain file 
that contains a substitute file name (relative or absolute) to use when 
the symlink is accessed. Symbolic links may cross file system 
boundaries because there referents (the thing to which they point) have 
no implicit component or aspect other than the directory in which the 
symlink resides in the case that the symlink's value is a relative path 
name.


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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 30 April 2007 11:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Monday 2007-04-30 at 07:14 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
   Er... you should not loose any file nor link - if you use the
   right options. Everything is saved. You might loose extended
   attributes, though.
 
  The --preserve option of cp (along with the -d and -R) using value
  all plus the --attributes option will include extended attributes
  options and allow 100% faithful duplication.

 True, but I was thinking of tar and friends.

Yes. And I'm pointing out that that gap can be closed by using cp.


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Re: [opensuse] Ooffice startup error

2007-04-30 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Mandag 30 april 2007 15:35 skrev Gavin Chester:
 On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 07:07 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
  Are you downloading it, or installing it as a RPM?  The latter should
  eliminate any of those problems.

 Can't go wrong with that advice, but the only thing I would add is to
 switch to 'smart' for package management. Once you add the useful set of
 repositories it leaves yast for dead and will 'smartly' resolve and
 dependency issue like you saw with OO.o  If unsure, google for 'smart'
 on suse.

 Gavin

Wait a sec., the binary programname for OO is NOT oofice, rather it's soffice!
- what have you been installing?



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[opensuse] simple way to lock accounts with 'n' of failed login attempts

2007-04-30 Thread James D. Parra
Hello,

Is there a simple way to lock accounts with 'n' number of failed attempts
without using pam? Possibly for ssh logins and terminal logins also.

Many thanks,

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Re: [opensuse] simple way to lock accounts with 'n' of failed login attempts

2007-04-30 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Mandag 30 april 2007 20:58 skrev James D. Parra:
 Hello,

 Is there a simple way to lock accounts with 'n' number of failed attempts
 without using pam? Possibly for ssh logins and terminal logins also.

 Many thanks,

 James

Denyhosts
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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 11:27 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

  It is safe to copy the link but not the file that the link is
  pointing to. On the other hand, when doing a backup, you might find
  out that the backup is full of links which are not saved elsewhere...
  so one has got to be careful.
 
 It's important to distinguish hard links from symbolic links.

Of course, I was talking about symbolic links.

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Re: [opensuse] Ooffice startup error

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-04-30 at 20:54 +0200, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

 Wait a sec., the binary programname for OO is NOT oofice, rather it's soffice!
 - what have you been installing?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q -f `which ooffice`
OpenOffice_org-2.1-19.1

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /usr/bin/ooffice
#!/bin/sh
export OOO_EXTRA_ARG=''
/usr/lib/ooo-2.0/program/ooqstart  $@


It is the quickstart program he is talking about.




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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 30 April 2007 13:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Monday 2007-04-30 at 11:28 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
all plus the --attributes option will include extended
attributes options and allow 100% faithful duplication.
  
   True, but I was thinking of tar and friends.
 
  Yes. And I'm pointing out that that gap can be closed by using cp.

 And... and how are you going to make a backup in one archive,
 compressed, using cp? Because we are talking about backups, and the
 OP used kdar.

I thought the task was to replicate a file system from one disk (or 
partition) to another?


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[opensuse] Chameleon and Suse Menu

2007-04-30 Thread David Gregg

I'm using openSUSE 10.2 and can't seem to get the chameleon to display
on the suse menu. If I switch to kde menu it shows fine, but I don't
know of any setting to make it show when using the suse menu.

also the top of the suse menu doesn't display properly, sorta like the
graphics show up fuzzy with streaks through it... this also doesn't
happen when using the kde menu...this same streaky fuzzyness also
shows up just prior to the gui loading up, so I'm not sure if the
problem is related, nor do I know how to take a screenshot or if it's
even possible at that point in the boot process.

I can email a screenshot directly to anyone interesting in seeing what
I'm talking about.

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[opensuse] still having problems

2007-04-30 Thread Carl Spitzer
I can not subscribe even under a new address.  Last time I posted to the
list but only received off list replies.  So again I try to subscribe
via two different addresses.  This is now the fourth time.  What is
wrong with the list host.  At the very list a new address on a different
host should be able to subscribe even if something has gone wrong on the
original.

I can only conclude there is a hidden setting for no mail and it has
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Re: [opensuse] Upgrade OpenSuSE 10.2 with latest kernel 2.6.21 (because hpt366 module crashed with 2.6.18)

2007-04-30 Thread Steve Beattie
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 08:04:38PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Jörg Spilker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  but installing the kernel fails because of the depandency problems:
 
  error: Failed dependencies:
  perl-Bootloader = 0.4.14 is needed by 
  kernel-default-2.6.21-32.1.i586
  apparmor-profiles = 2.0.1 conflicts with 
  kernel-default-2.6.21-32.1.i586
  apparmor-parser = 2.0.1 conflicts with 
  kernel-default-2.6.21-32.1.i586
 
  Are there any repositories containing newer version of the mentioned 
  packages 
  (in factory ?)
 
 Factory does contain these.

You can also get the updated apparmor packages from
http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/steve-beattie/openSUSE-10.2/

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Re: [opensuse] Chameleon and Suse Menu

2007-04-30 Thread Ken Jennings
On Monday 2007-04-30 16:27, David Gregg wrote:
[...]
 also the top of the suse menu doesn't display properly, sorta like the
 graphics show up fuzzy with streaks through it... this also doesn't
 happen when using the kde menu...this same streaky fuzzyness also
 shows up just prior to the gui loading up, so I'm not sure if the
 problem is related, nor do I know how to take a screenshot or if it's
 even possible at that point in the boot process.
[...]

I'm not sure I'm seeing exactly the same thing.  ( I'm on 10.2  X86_64 and 
using nvidia card/drivers.)  When most KDE applications open, for a fraction 
of a second the window content is just horizontal lines and random parts 
graphics from other windows.  Then (I guess) the application redraws its 
display at startup and then everything looks OK.  Kuickshow is the only 
exception -- it can't display pictures, because it always shows the random 
graphics garbage, forever.

Thanks,
Ken Jennings.
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[opensuse] how to enable figer print reader?

2007-04-30 Thread Peter Van Lone

My HP nw8440 laptop has a fingerprint reader. My compatriots who also
have this device (and are running vista) have easily been able to
configure this such that when prompted to login, they simply swipe
their finger.

How to go about this, with SLED 10 or OpenSuse 10.1?

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Re: [opensuse] red prompt for root user

2007-04-30 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2007/04/26 13:05 (GMT-0500) Jay C Vollmer apparently typed:


On Thursday 26 April 2007 11:15, Alexey Eremenko wrote:



congratulations for this new feature in 10.3 !
I really like it !



1. Who made it?
2. Where can I find documentation that allows me to change bash
prompt? (colors, symbols, etc...)
I know this is a bash-specific PS1/PS2 variables were changed...



You can define your $PS1 variable in root's .bashrc file like this:



export PS1=\[\e[31;1m\]\u# \[\e[0m\]



This line surns your text red(\[\e[31;1m\]) prints the prompt (\u$ )
then turns the text coloring off (\[\e[0m\])


That seems simple enough until you discover that you don't always have the
same background color. So it needs the background color accounted for as
well in order to guarantee adequate contrast. e.g., when on Konsole the
background is white (\[\e[30;47;1m\]\u# \[\e[0m\]), but on tty[1-6] the
background is black (\[\e[37;40;1m\]\u# \[\e[0m\]). How is that done?



Change your default color schema for konsole (I prefer
black background, green chars).


Other colors are likewise available using the
following codes:



RED \e[0;31m]
YELLOW  \e[0;33m]
PURPLE  \e[0;35m]
WHITE   \e[0;37m]
BLUE\e[0;34m]
BLACK   \e[0;30m]
CYAN\e[0;36m]
BOLD\e[1;1m]
BLINK   \e[5m]
INVERT  \e[7m]
UNDRLN  \e[4m]
OFF \e[0;0m]




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[opensuse] UNKNOWN FORMAT FOR JPEGS IN KONQUEROR]

2007-04-30 Thread Chris C
Hi guys,
I am new to this community help thing, so please bare with me...

I can't view jpegs in Konqueror. It does not recognize the format.
I think I accidentally changed the setting for jpegs in Konqueror, but I
am not sure exactly what it was.
I can view jpegs in digicam, but not in konqueror.
When I do a properties in konqueror, for format it is unknown.
I think it is looking at the jpegs as a text document.
What settings do I need to change back for konqueror to see my jpegs as
photos again, instead of text documents ?

-Steve

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Re: [opensuse] UNKNOWN FORMAT FOR JPEGS IN KONQUEROR]

2007-04-30 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 30 April 2007 14:24, Chris C wrote:
 Hi guys,
 ..., so please bare with me...

No way. I keep my clothes on while operating dangerous electronic 
equipment...


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Re: [opensuse] UNKNOWN FORMAT FOR JPEGS IN KONQUEROR]

2007-04-30 Thread David Rozzell
On Monday 30 April 2007, Chris C wrote:
 Hi guys,
 I am new to this community help thing, so please bare with me...

 I can't view jpegs in Konqueror. It does not recognize the format.
 I think I accidentally changed the setting for jpegs in Konqueror, but I
 am not sure exactly what it was.
 I can view jpegs in digicam, but not in konqueror.
 When I do a properties in konqueror, for format it is unknown.
 I think it is looking at the jpegs as a text document.
 What settings do I need to change back for konqueror to see my jpegs as
 photos again, instead of text documents ?

 -Steve

Deja vu :) Someone called Steve asked this very same question yesterday, 
perhaps you should have a look at that thread in the archives, it may be of 
some use to you

HTH

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Re: [opensuse] simple way to lock accounts with 'n' of failed login attempts

2007-04-30 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-30-07 15:16]:
 [...] 
 Denyhosts
 denyhosts.sourceforge.net

There are suse rpms available:
  http://repos.opensuse.org/home:/countdrunkula
  http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/countdrukula
  
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Re: [opensuse] UNKNOWN FORMAT FOR JPEGS IN KONQUEROR]

2007-04-30 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 22:50 +0100, David Rozzell wrote:
 On Monday 30 April 2007, Chris C wrote:
  Hi guys,
  I am new to this community help thing, so please bare with me...
 
  I can't view jpegs in Konqueror. It does not recognize the format.
  I think I accidentally changed the setting for jpegs in Konqueror, but I
  am not sure exactly what it was.
  I can view jpegs in digicam, but not in konqueror.
  When I do a properties in konqueror, for format it is unknown.
  I think it is looking at the jpegs as a text document.
  What settings do I need to change back for konqueror to see my jpegs as
  photos again, instead of text documents ?
 
  -Steve
 
 Deja vu :) Someone called Steve asked this very same question yesterday, 
 perhaps you should have a look at that thread in the archives, it may be of 
 some use to you
 
 HTH
 
 David

You could have at least provided the new member a link David.

Chris,

Look at http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-04/ and use the search
box at the top right and you'll soon be finding answers to many problems
while learning to use openSUSE.

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Public development of AppArmored FireFox

2007-04-30 Thread Alexey Eremenko

So do I just import the profile referenced above?  How do I
differentiate launching normal vs. AppArmored Firefox.


Well, for now we don't have separate package yet, so this profile will
affect your normal FireFox.
To switch from AppArmored FireFox to normal FireFox, you must type:

For normal mode:
rcapparmor stop
or for AppArmored mode:
rcapparmor restart

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Re: [opensuse] how to enable figer print reader?

2007-04-30 Thread Pueblo Native
Peter Van Lone wrote:
 My HP nw8440 laptop has a fingerprint reader. My compatriots who also
 have this device (and are running vista) have easily been able to
 configure this such that when prompted to login, they simply swipe
 their finger.

 How to go about this, with SLED 10 or OpenSuse 10.1?

 Peter

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader

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Re: [opensuse] red prompt for root user

2007-04-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/04/30 18:10 (GMT+0400) Aaron Kulkis apparently typed:

 Felix Miata wrote:

 That seems simple enough until you discover that you don't always have the
 same background color. So it needs the background color accounted for as
 well in order to guarantee adequate contrast. e.g., when on Konsole the
 background is white (\[\e[30;47;1m\]\u# \[\e[0m\]), but on tty[1-6] the
 background is black (\[\e[37;40;1m\]\u# \[\e[0m\]). How is that done?

 Change your default color schema for konsole (I prefer
 black background, green chars).

I don't like that choice at all. I like a white background in Konsole, and
on the VTs my background color of choice is that used by mc, blue. What I'd
like most is for 10.3's change to red to get reverted, because it was smart
enough to be white on blue and black on white then. Red on white and red on
blue are virtually invisible here.
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Re: [opensuse] UNKNOWN FORMAT FOR JPEGS IN KONQUEROR]

2007-04-30 Thread David Rozzell
On Monday 30 April 2007, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 22:50 +0100, David Rozzell wrote:
  On Monday 30 April 2007, Chris C wrote:
   Hi guys,
   I am new to this community help thing, so please bare with me...
  
   I can't view jpegs in Konqueror. It does not recognize the format.
   I think I accidentally changed the setting for jpegs in Konqueror, but
   I am not sure exactly what it was.
   I can view jpegs in digicam, but not in konqueror.
   When I do a properties in konqueror, for format it is unknown.
   I think it is looking at the jpegs as a text document.
   What settings do I need to change back for konqueror to see my jpegs as
   photos again, instead of text documents ?
  
   -Steve
 
  Deja vu :) Someone called Steve asked this very same question yesterday,
  perhaps you should have a look at that thread in the archives, it may be
  of some use to you
 
  HTH
 
  David

 You could have at least provided the new member a link David.

Yes I probably could have but it was more a reference to the fact that the 
post wasn't just the same question, it was the *very* same question that was 
asked yesterday, word for word the same question, identical in every way 
including being signed by someone called Steve, the only difference being the 
first one was sent by Chris  Steve  this one was sent just by Chris - but 
still signed by Steve :) 

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Public development of AppArmored FireFox

2007-04-30 Thread Alexey Eremenko

On 4/30/07, Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So do I just import the profile referenced above?


just copy it to /etc/apparmor.d
WARNING: do not use Yast to import profile as it doesn't work !
I will open the necessary bugs.


How do I

 differentiate launching normal vs. AppArmored Firefox.

Well, for now we don't have separate package yet, so this profile will
affect your normal FireFox.
To switch from AppArmored FireFox to normal FireFox, you must type:

For normal mode:
 rcapparmor stop
or for AppArmored mode:
rcapparmor restart


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Re: [opensuse] still having problems

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos Robinson

On 4/30/07, Carl Spitzer cwsiv wrote:


I can not subscribe even under a new address.  Last time I posted to the
list but only received off list replies.  So again I try to subscribe
via two different addresses.  This is now the fourth time.  What is
wrong with the list host.


Nothing, the problem is on your side.

Get a gmail account and subscribe from the webmail. Forget your ISP/Setup.
I'm sending you and invite.

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[opensuse] Best way to copy mail (kmail)

2007-04-30 Thread Jim Flanagan
Hi all,

This is a basic question, but what is the best way to copy my email
files from one install (9.3) to my new install (10.2). Same machine. Old
install is mounted as same user name  mounted at data1.  I have not
used kmail on the new install yet, but did open kmail once, have not set
up users. I see may old mail in
/data1/home/user/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail. I see the same folder in
the new install, with only a few sub-folders. Should I just copy the
whole /mail folder over the new one and be done with it? Or would cat
be better? Again, there is no mail in the new folder so I can overwrite
it if need be.

TIA,

Jim Flanagan
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Re: [opensuse] Another back-up question - Over over again

2007-04-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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  And... and how are you going to make a backup in one archive,
  compressed, using cp? Because we are talking about backups, and the
  OP used kdar.
 
 I thought the task was to replicate a file system from one disk (or 
 partition) to another?

Actually, from one disk to the same disk after repair - but I don't know 
which was (is) the intermediate media.

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Re: [opensuse] still having problems

2007-04-30 Thread Pueblo Native
Carlos Robinson wrote:
 On 4/30/07, Carl Spitzer cwsiv wrote:

 I can not subscribe even under a new address.  Last time I posted to the
 list but only received off list replies.  So again I try to subscribe
 via two different addresses.  This is now the fourth time.  What is
 wrong with the list host.

 Nothing, the problem is on your side.

 Get a gmail account and subscribe from the webmail. Forget your
 ISP/Setup.
 I'm sending you and invite.

Hopefully this is your juno address and you are still using it, but
you're messages are getting through, it's just getting the messages that
you are not able to do.  Get a GMail account or a yahoo account or
something and try that.
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[opensuse] DV Capture on opensuse10.2

2007-04-30 Thread Jim Flanagan
Hi,

Can anyone give me pointers on how to capture DV from camcorder to
linux? I tried Kino and MainActor. Kino advised that the raw1394 driver
was not detected. MainActor advised that both raw1394 and DV1394 drivers
could be used, but neither were not detected. Yast shows libraw1394
installed (by default). A search in Yast did not find 'raw1394' or
DV1394. What more do i need to do here?

Many thanks,

Jim Flanagna
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Re: [opensuse] This is getting silly

2007-04-30 Thread Carl Spitzer
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 00:47 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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 The Monday 2007-04-30 at 00:45 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
  And please, somebody send a direct email to him, mine will bounce for
  sure.
 
 It did, of course:
 
 (host smtp.myrealbox.com[72.8.126.134] refused to talk to me: 453 Maximum 
 connection count has been exceeded)

Well as you can see I have downloaded the archive and I find messages do
get though but not back.  This is getting ridiculous.  I have tried to
subscribe via another address and still no result, not even a return
message acknowledging that I tried to subscribe via host bluebottle and
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Re: [opensuse] UNKNOWN FORMAT FOR JPEGS IN KONQUEROR (How do I repair Konqueror)

2007-04-30 Thread Chris Steve
I all ready tried the solution below before I asked this post and it
didn't work.
All of my photos, when opened in Konqueror, are read as text messages
instead of photos and this happens globally, not just with a few random
photos.
I was going to try to uninstall/reinstall konqueror to see if it fixes
the problem, but i get warnings about dependency issue if I remove
konqueror, so I am hesitant to do it.

-Steve

jdd wrote:
 Chris  Steve wrote:
 Hi guys,
 I am new to this community help thing, so please bare with me...

 I can't view jpegs in Konqueror. It does not recognize the format.
 I think I accidentally changed the setting for jpegs in Konqueror, but I
 am not sure exactly what it was.
 I can view jpegs in digicam, but not in konqueror.
 When I do a properties in konqueror, for format it is unknown.
 I think it is looking at the jpegs as a text document.
 What settings do I need to change back for konqueror to see my jpegs as
 photos again, instead of text documents ?

 -Steve
 
 I have similar problem, but with jpg
 
 on my 10.1 install, only jpeg displays in the internal viewer with all
 the exifs infos, so I simply add the *.jpg to the jpeg profile
 
 jdd
 
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[opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

2007-04-30 Thread Alexey Eremenko

I have a one little question: WHAT THE HELL !?!?

openSUSE 10.2 contains package called libpcap-0.9.4-30 but
internally it has a library of a previous version !
/usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3 !!! Because of this some programs refuse
to run !

opensuse:/E/Lin-Install # rpm -ql libpcap
/usr/include/pcap-bpf.h
/usr/include/pcap-namedb.h
/usr/include/pcap.h
/usr/lib/libpcap.a
/usr/lib/libpcap.so
/usr/lib/libpcap.so.0
/usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/CHANGES
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/CREDITS
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/INSTALL.txt
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/LICENSE
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.Win32
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.aix
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.dag
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.hpux
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.linux
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.macosx
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.septel
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/README.tru64
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/TODO
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/pcap.html
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/pcap.txt
/usr/share/doc/packages/libpcap/pcap.xml
/usr/share/man/man3/pcap.3.gz

Futher testing shows me that this is the library, not a symlink, as I
thought before !

opensuse:/E/Lin-Install # file /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3
/usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386,
version 1 (SYSV), stripped
opensuse:/E/Lin-Install # ll /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 158960 2006-11-25 12:19 /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.9.3


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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

2007-04-30 Thread Magnus Boman
Alexey,

On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 02:15 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 I have a one little question: WHAT THE HELL !?!?

I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you mean Where is hell or
perhaps What is hell?
The best I can do for you with regards to your question is to point you
to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell

HTH,
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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

2007-04-30 Thread Alexey Eremenko

opened bug report:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=270226

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[opensuse] External USB hotswap HDDs

2007-04-30 Thread John O'Gorman
Hi

Thanks to those of you who made suggestions when I could not get 10.2 to
recognise a CoolGear USB removable HDD.

It turned out the problem was with the USB hub inside the external case
drawing too much current and lowering the voltage to marginal levels.
It was drawing its current from the server USB socket despite the fact
that the external case had its own power supplied from the wall AC
socket.
My hardware man cured the problem by connecting the +5v regulated supply
from the power circuitry to the hub (via the key switch). Turns out the
box was an earlier model - the manufacturer now supplies boxes with the
same mod.

This prompts 2 questions though. Any advice would be gratefully
accepted.

1. Is it OK to just unplug the device without using umount?

My practice hitherto has been to:
1. plug the cable into both the server and the case.
2. put the disktray in the case.
3. Switch on the power to the case
4. switch on the tray keyswitch, and wait for the lights to settle
5. Access the device via /media/disk (or whatever shows up in mount
for /dev/sdb1

This is not as complex as it sounds, and probably not too important.
Now comes the part that bothers me:

To remove the disc, I have been doing the following:

1. umount /dev/sdb1 (or whatever)
2. switch off the disktray
3. remove the disktray 

In fact there is a keylock. You cannot remove the disktray unless you
unlock with the key.
The question: Is step 1 necessary or unnecessarily cautious.

Question 2

How can you reconfigure SuSE 9 to imitate the behaviour of 10.2 with
regards to mount points (i.e. /media/disk instead
of /media/verylonghardwarebasednamewith\spaces?

regards
John O'Gorman



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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

2007-04-30 Thread Magnus Boman
Alexey,

On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 02:29 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 opened bug report:
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=270226

bugzilla.novell.com is for technical issues regarding Novell/SUSE
products. Not a place where you will find answers to your religious
questions. So ignoring the fact that you have this religious issue in
that bug report, I also see that there's an issue with libpcap, so I
wont close it.
In the future, please only report one issue per bug report.

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Cheers,
Magnus

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

2007-04-30 Thread Alexey Eremenko

bugzilla.novell.com is for technical issues regarding Novell/SUSE
products. Not a place where you will find answers to your religious
questions. So ignoring the fact that you have this religious issue in
that bug report, I also see that there's an issue with libpcap, so I
wont close it.
In the future, please only report one issue per bug report.


Well, actually I have only 1 issue - the technical one - that my
affect other susers. (=SUSE users)
The religious issue with the word hell is my personal
misunderstanding, not everyone else's problem.

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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

2007-04-30 Thread Doug McGarrett
On Sunday 08 April 2007 09:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Saturday 2007-04-07 at 22:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
  I need to thoroughly cleanse the system of all printers, of any
  type or serial number and then start over.  How do I do that?

 In cups, remove or delete printer. If kde doesn't notice, log out, log in.

 --
 Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
I don't mean to piggyback on this thread, but it seems easiest, and is
not really OT.

Having had problems with printers in 9.3, which I intend to stay with 
until probably at least 6 months from now, I would like a recommendation for
a low-cost laser that will absolutely work with this OS out of the box.  I can
use USB or parallel, whichever is more reliable.  I am getting more and more
frustrated with M/S and XP/SP2, and since I lost almost everything in a 
disk crash, now is the time to look more seriously at Linux, but I _must_
have working printing!!!

(If I could install and get hplip to work, I might be able to use my big HP
Laser, that used to work with 10.0, but I've had no luck doing that.  Any
help would be appreciated.  Do I have to download a different copy that 
isn't on the floppies from someplace, and if so, where?  And how?

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Re: [opensuse] how to enable figer print reader?

2007-04-30 Thread Peter Van Lone

On 4/30/07, Pueblo Native [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader

Hope this helps.


yikes ...

well, if that's what there is, that's what there is. I need to start
learning how to configure from source ... it just seems like there are
so many options that I don't have any clue what they are ... the
couple times I've done it I felt totally as though I just had to close
my eyes and run the gauntlet.

Maybe this is a good place to start ...

Peter
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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

2007-04-30 Thread Magnus Boman
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 02:40 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
  bugzilla.novell.com is for technical issues regarding Novell/SUSE
  products. Not a place where you will find answers to your religious
  questions. So ignoring the fact that you have this religious issue in
  that bug report, I also see that there's an issue with libpcap, so I
  wont close it.
  In the future, please only report one issue per bug report.
 
 Well, actually I have only 1 issue - the technical one - that my
 affect other susers. (=SUSE users)
 The religious issue with the word hell is my personal
 misunderstanding, not everyone else's problem.

Good. So I hope we wont see you adding your religious questions to this
list and bugzilla in the future then.

 
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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

2007-04-30 Thread Pueblo Native
Magnus Boman wrote:
 Alexey,

 On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 02:15 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
   
 I have a one little question: WHAT THE HELL !?!?
 

 I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you mean Where is hell or
 perhaps What is hell?
 The best I can do for you with regards to your question is to point you
 to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell

 HTH,
 Magnus

   
And with a off-topic, if humorous post, here's another deep question
about the netherworld. http://www.pinetree.net/humor/thermodynamics.html
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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

2007-04-30 Thread Alexey Eremenko

Magnus:
I have meant: What the hell is going here with the packages

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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

2007-04-30 Thread Magnus Boman
Alexey,

On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 03:00 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 Magnus:
 I have meant: What the hell is going here with the packages

Sure, but is that sort of language really needed to make a point? Don't
you honestly think that people are more inclined to help if the question
is asked politely?

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Cheers,
Magnus


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Re: [opensuse] UNKNOWN FORMAT FOR JPEGS IN KONQUEROR (How do I repair Konqueror)

2007-04-30 Thread BandiPat
On Monday 30 April 2007, Chris  Steve wrote:
 I all ready tried the solution below before I asked this post and it
 didn't work.
 All of my photos, when opened in Konqueror, are read as text messages
 instead of photos and this happens globally, not just with a few
 random photos.
 I was going to try to uninstall/reinstall konqueror to see if it
 fixes the problem, but i get warnings about dependency issue if I
 remove konqueror, so I am hesitant to do it.

 -Steve


Steve,
I don't think I've seen this mentioned, but have you tried removing all 
your old settings files, etc for Konq in your /home/user/.kde 
directory?  Seems like with the trouble you are having, it would just 
be best to start fresh with Konq.  Reinstalling won't help, since 
you'll still be using your same old user settings.

You could also create a new user, where a new .kde directory will be set 
up, then you can test.

regards,
Lee
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to copy mail (kmail)

2007-04-30 Thread Kai Ponte
On Monday 30 April 2007 04:17:17 pm Jim Flanagan wrote:
 Hi all,

 This is a basic question, but what is the best way to copy my email
 files from one install (9.3) to my new install (10.2). Same machine. Old
 install is mounted as same user name  mounted at data1.  I have not
 used kmail on the new install yet, but did open kmail once, have not set
 up users. I see may old mail in
 /data1/home/user/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail. I see the same folder in
 the new install, with only a few sub-folders. Should I just copy the
 whole /mail folder over the new one and be done with it? Or would cat
 be better? Again, there is no mail in the new folder so I can overwrite
 it if need be.

I don't know if it is the kosher way to do things, but with  my mom's system 
yesterday, I simply restored her home folder structure to a temporary folder. 
I then did an import using File  Import Messages.  It pulled in her whole 
folder structure. 

I suppose this method does not retain filters and whatnot but it seemed to 
work for me. 
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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

2007-04-30 Thread russbucket
On Monday April 30 2007 18:46, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 On Sunday 08 April 2007 09:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
  The Saturday 2007-04-07 at 22:14 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
   I need to thoroughly cleanse the system of all printers, of any
   type or serial number and then start over.  How do I do that?
 
  In cups, remove or delete printer. If kde doesn't notice, log out, log
  in.
 
  --
  Cheers,
 Carlos E. R.

 I don't mean to piggyback on this thread, but it seems easiest, and is
 not really OT.

 Having had problems with printers in 9.3, which I intend to stay with
 until probably at least 6 months from now, I would like a recommendation
 for a low-cost laser that will absolutely work with this OS out of the box.
  I can use USB or parallel, whichever is more reliable.  I am getting more
 and more frustrated with M/S and XP/SP2, and since I lost almost everything
 in a disk crash, now is the time to look more seriously at Linux, but I
 _must_ have working printing!!!

 (If I could install and get hplip to work, I might be able to use my big HP
 Laser, that used to work with 10.0, but I've had no luck doing that.  Any
 help would be appreciated.  Do I have to download a different copy that
 isn't on the floppies from someplace, and if so, where?  And how?

 --doug
If your looking for a low cost color laser I use a Xerox Phaser 6120, four 
color. Was $299.US from either Xerox Direct or CDW. Xerox supplies a PPD that 
you put in CUPS (Directions are included and easy.) I'm on SUSE 10.2 and have 
had no printer problems except from ISCAN which doesn't scale correctly. All 
other applications I use work directly out of the box. LPR also works with 
it.

HP also makes a 4 co;or laser in this price range but ink cartridges are more 
expensive than the Xerox ones. I've had mine since Nov. 2006.
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