Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem booting a new hard drive with openSUSE 10.3
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 02:25 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > The Monday 2007-12-03 at 13:07 -, Sid Boyce wrote: > > > That would be a step a long way back in time. I thought slicing and dicing > > a > > separate /boot partition went out with the need for steam trains, when PC > > BIOS restrictions meant you couldn't boot from a partition extending beyond > > the first 1024 cylinders. > > Saying that is as if the politicians say that there is no need for > protection or that your job and savings are secure :-P > > The theory is that you do not need a separate boot partition. However... > the truth is that in some scenarios it does help, and my xtall ball tells > me this /may/ be one of those cases. > AFAIK, /boot can not be put in an LVM. everything else can. hw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Looking outside the box
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 15:52 +0100, Sid Boyce wrote: > Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > I've just send out to people that report to me the following request and > > like to share it with you so that you know what's going on if you see > > discussions starting and can look at the webpage as well. > > * Ubuntu/Kubuntu 7.10 Beta > > > > I suggest to install at least one of these products on real hardware > > and evaluate the distribution and try to get ideas for our next > > product. > > > > * Look at the installation, what do you like and hate? > > > > * Check the area you're most familiar in, e.g. printing, and see how > > it's integrated, e.g. configure a printer and print some documents. > > What is different compared to openSUSE 10.3? Where is the user > > experience different? > > > > * Use the machine for some work, play around with it. How do you like > > it? > > > > Please write down your experience on the openSUSE wiki at > > http://en.opensuse.org/Distro_Inspirations - and if you see things > > that you like to discuss, discuss them on the opensuse-factory mailing > > list. > > > > ~~ > > > > Andreas > > One thing I forgot to mention in my previous post, Ubuntu has a thriving > community of contributors. Every week I see a number of articles on how > to do this or that on Ubuntu, usually appearing on linuxtoday and > slashdot amongst others. > One such article referred to me on this list did fix a problem I had > with grub when I removed a dying hard drive which was /dev/sda and the > previous /dev/sdb became /dev/sda. > Many of the Ubuntu HOWTO articles address how to do stuff that is also > applicable to openSUSE, though references throughout is about apt-get > and dpkg. Many of the solutions to problems offered on this list would > make good articles --- I must have a good look at the opeSUSE wiki, I'm > sure there is noteworthy stuff that describes HOWTO on openSUSE, but the > openSUSE angle never gets stressed enough. > If you have Ubuntu and you want to know how to do something specific, > there is almost always a result from a google search. > Regards > Sid. > Hi Andreas, list, At work, a projectleader forced us to abandon sles10 in favour of ubuntu. (just because he is using ubuntu at home and he's calling the shots, no real technical reason) It's true what Sid mentioned, it's got a thriving community. With its pro and cons: Yes, it has much more packages, but the turn-around-time is absolutely minimal: I rsync about 100GB every week. At work i have unlimited bandwith, no pain for me. And for the everage user who installs over the net neither. But for those who want/need to maintain their own install-server it's less positive (costly) On the other hand, latest versions of some packages can be found at ubuntu, but not even on the build server Second point: if you want to deploy systems with SuSE, the xml-files for autoyast / xen, works like a charm. Everybody can see that a lot of effort has been put in it. OTOH, creating & maintaining pre-seed-files for ubuntu is an absolute PITA: absolute picky/unforgiving about the syntax, no checking Definitely not production grade. Ubuntu needs at least several years before it reach the same stability/functionality for this point. Third point Ubuntu has a smaller footprint in disk/mem consumption. Having said that, i agree that 10.3 is a huge enhancement comparing with 10.1 and 10.2. As a matter of fact, a week ago someone asked for the iso's of 7.3, because he could run it with 64MB!!! I guess, that might be an unreachable target, but 10.1 was realy getting obesitas Final point, on the suse-wishlist i read the request of GFS. Marcus declined that, saying that you choose the use of ocfs2. Very well, but afaik, currently neither are on the media. GFS is available for debian/ubuntu and RedHat/Fedora/Centos/Aurora. (correct me if i'm wrong) Personally, i prefer SuSE, for it's stability - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] 10.3 : no go /part 1
First shot (with gm) at 10.3 System: hp dl320/G4 with 4GB, no extra hw-installed, was running 10.2 Images were verified Before i try anything special, i always do a default installation, nothing fancy selected. No-go this time! After installation (reboot) it returns grub 21 Although i know that it's half of "life, universe and the rest" ;) It's a bit short. Looking at http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html it got some more details about grub-errors. However, for 21 it says: 21 : "Unknown boot failure" This error is returned if the boot attempt did not succeed for reasons which are unknown. Wry thing is, at that stage, its not possible to examine any logfiles as there is no other os on the system. Obviously, during the grub-install, something is forgotten, or went wrong (will investigate further on monday). Would it be possible during grub-install to perform a test to test if it succesfully installed the bootloader. And if it fails this test don't reboot, but fall into the cli? Hans - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse] Upgrade from RC2 to final
On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 15:44 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > "Matt Standish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am installing a few new machines to be used in a conference and I > > would like to show off the latest version of Opensuse. Will there be > > a way to upgrade from RC2 to the final release? > > The following worked for me: > > zypper sa ftp-distribution (once it's available) > zypper update -t package > Hi Andreas, I presume that the mentioned RC2 is an internal release? Two questions about it: on RC1 i saw that perl-DBD-mysql is not included any more As we use mysql a lot from perl-scripts, its an unpleasent surprize. Will this package be available? Second one, more or less passed on the list, the python script that launches xen-guest is not capable anymore to extract the kernel/initrd from a dom-u disk-image. That's something that was perfectly working under 10.2. otoh, when i provide initrd&kernel explicitly, i'm perfectly able to run 10.1 guests on a 10.3 DOM-0 (both 64-bit) Is this solved? I presume these are "known features @suse", thus nothing for bugzilla Hans diff-10.1-10.3.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] xen on 10.3-B3]
On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 12:06 -0400, Peter Sjoberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 20:36 -0600, Stephen Shaw wrote:
> > >>> Peter Sjoberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/19/07 7:18 PM >>>
> > >On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 00:00 +0200, Hans Witvliet wrote:
> > >> Anybody on the list trying xen on 10.3-B3?
> > >I have a same/similar problem
> > >I downloaded the 10.3 x86_64bit dvd and was going to add a new domU on
> > >my 10.2 system but nothing seems to work.
> >
> > >I have a OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64 AMD AM2 system running xen. Installing
> > >10.2 domU works ok when done over network or iso image but I can't even
> > >get the install to start when trying 10.3 beta 3.
> >
> > Your first problem is that you are using beta3. :(
> > There were some problems with the install, beta 3 plus clean that up some.
> > RC1
> > seems to be working ok. I haven't done tons of testing on it yet, but
> > haven't run into
> > any problems. Did a few amount on beta3 plus and that seemed to be ok.
> Well, I still have the same problem, at least when using the .iso file
> as source, it can't find the kernel.
> I looked in y2log (>3000 lines just for this install) and found some
> things referring to descr/packages. It seems like on 10.3 it's no
> "package" file, just "package.{de,en,fr,...}.gz" and when the 10.2
> installer looks it fails with a missing "package".
> Checked on the 10.2 dvd and there it's a package file so there it's ok.
>
> Remember that it's a 10.2 installer looking on a 10.3 install dvd, that
> might be why it doesn't work directly.
>
> Since auto extracting the kernel doesn't work I did it manually and did
> a "Other os" install. It worked better but still no go, the console
> window starts up and shows a few things before it just hangs.
> The last message before hanging:
>
> mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
> NET: Registered protocol family 1
> XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/768
> XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/832
> XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vif/0
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed
> Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
> ide: Assuming 50MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
> SCSI subsystem initialized
> st: Version 20070203, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256
> BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 0 devices found
> EDD information not available.
> NET: Registered protocol family 17
> loop: module loaded
> xen-vbd: registered block device major 3
> blkfront: hda: barriers enabled
> hda: unknown partition table
> blkfront: hdb: barriers enabled
> hdb: unknown partition table
> netfront: Initialising virtual ethernet driver.
> netfront: device eth0 has flipping receive path.
> squashfs: version 3.2-r2 (2007/01/15) Phillip Lougher
>
> I don't know what to look for here but for me 10.3 is still a no-go, at
> least as long as you have a 10.2 xen host and want to create a 10.3 as a
> guest with yast (didn't test 100% manual install, don't know that much)
>
> >
> > Note: HVM opensuse guests do not work. I believe it has something to do
> > with isolinux
> Can't fail that since my Gigabyte M61P-S3 mobo doesn't support HMV (bios
> issue, no update available)
>
> >
> > Help that helps.
> >
> > Stephen Shaw
> >
> > PS. There is also a #opensuse-xen channel on freenode. I try to hang out
> > there as much as
> > possible, but do read passed messages.
> Did just join there but it was just me and Uranellus there, will try
> sometime during business hours
>
> >
Will do some testing monday, at work.
If a 10.3-DOM-0 only runs 10.3-DOM-u's it's certainly a bugzilla entry.
Current 10.1 and 10.2 dom-0's run every kind of DOM-U, not just
10.1-dom-u, but ubuntu and freebsd as well.
The feature i'm anxious to test, is 32-images on a 64-bit machine.
Hans
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[opensuse-factory] xen on 10.3-B3
Anybody on the list trying xen on 10.3-B3? Seems to be stuck. On a 10.2 DOM-0, i can run 10.1 DOM-u without any adaption. Same is not true for 10.1 DOM-U's on a 10.3-B3 DOM-0 Other shot, creating a new DOM-U from yast, seems to be hanging half-way (reding the repo afair from the top of my head) HtH, Hans - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] asterisk dropped?
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 23:27 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 11:19:45PM +0200, Andreas Vetter wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just wanted to install asterisk and could not find it in 10.3b3 or > > factory. It's in build service. > > > > Why (and when) was it dropped? I miss it! > > It has too often security problems and is moving to fast even > for the 2 year support cycle of openSUSE. Well, the 1.2 branch won't release too often any more. It's in maintenance mode. Curremt development-branch is 1.4 now... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] http install
Hi, Just re-installed a little via-box with 10.2. After booting, i tried to add the option: install=suse.a-domani.nl/10.2, my local install & update server. It looks like during install, IPv6 is not recognized. Neither by name, nor by adres can the installationsource be reached. After (DVD-)installation, i can set my installation-source without any problem to suse.a-domani.nl/10.2 and update.a-domani.nl/10.2, which are ipv6-only websites Is this intentionally, or a possible enhancement ;-) Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 18:38 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote: > Alexey Eremenko escribió: > > I believe SUSE should not be limited by Xen-only approach. > > > > and I believe openSUSE should do one thing, and do it right, not many > half working virtualization alternatives. > > You wrote about OpenSuSE: But isn't that the essential idea behind "the open source community"? Walk all paths (by the people who know what they are doing). The best (working/supported) solution will gain the most users. If you only present a single option, people can not choose... (Same goes with kde/gnome any many other sw-packages, not?) If the O.P. can develop a working xen-alternative and put it on the build-server: fine by all means. Community, and the suse team will look at it and evalute it. If it's more-of-the-same, it won't be picked up. If it's better, or has more potential, well, who knows... -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] torrent
Hi, This morning i started torrent for 10.3-A5, One completed, one remains hanging, other won't start (no peers at all) I can still ping tracker.opensuse.org, but i get "unable to connect..." for several hours. Is the site "slashdotted"??? The one completed (bin-i386) i'll remain seeding, but no-one can find it, it's pointless. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] install time 10.3-A4, 32-bit
Hi all, just obtained a via-board, 1Ghz CPU, 512MB mem Thought to give it a spin with 10.3-A4 Config: default +kde Compared with other boxes, it seems to take ages to install. y2base takes 100% cpu, It is still resolving, and specially the package zyper-0.7.1-12 seems to be a hard nut to crack... Even the install of 10.2 on smaller systems (intel 450MHz) didn't take that long. -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Making Basic Utilities work under normal user
On Sat, 2007-05-26 at 03:38 -0400, Jonathan Arsenault wrote: > On Sat, 2007-05-26 at 02:35 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > > Anyways, I'm not satisfied. I want to have access to my ifconfig from > > normal user. > > Yes, lets change the UNIX way for the unsatisfied kid ... > > Snip from the FHS. > > /sbin : System binaries > Purpose > Utilities used for system administration (and other root-only commands) > are stored in /sbin, /usr/sbin, and /usr/local/sbin. > > > http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SBINSYSTEMBINARIES > > -- Ok, so why not: ln -s /sbin/ifconfig /home/hwit/bin/Ifconfig Keep the system binaries only for the "root-user" and give only specific commands also to a selected group of users. HW -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 19:31 +0200, M9. wrote: > Well, since some dirs, like /usr and /var vary from edition to edition, > it is never clear what the size most optimal should be.. > That is the point... > If it was easy to rearrange the sizes, like with PQ PM, you could easily > adapt the size to the needed size... > That is why should be clear where the growth should be, so the size > could be adapted in front..(because of the lack of a good partitioner..;-) > Well, /opt and /usr can be calculated (yast does it) Or if you want it Q&D, install the whole bunch as you think you might need it, with just a root partition, have a look what you need, and re-install it properly (opt & usr at 75%) /srv you can also plan ahead (mysql, apache, ldap, tftp, ...) /home is always a surprise /tmp auto-purge weekly /var/log is your own admin responsibility to keep tidy btw, i did mean ext3 for small partitions that varies, not ext2 or reiser: journaling is nice for systems that change. But a 100MB reiser-FS is filled for 30% with internal datastructures. For large partitions (>250GB) ext is a pita), it takes ages to make. HW -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 17:25 +0200, M9. wrote: > We see that the suggestion to create a serious partitioner, like PQ > Partition Magic was not so bad at all. > I constantly run into problems, because it is much too difficult too > change the sizes of existing partitions. I would suggest using LVM! > Now, one has too back-up his/her home, throw away all partitions, and > start all over again. What's wrong with that? > More logic would be: Load the files nessesary to create what is needed > first, (the room for the system, and i am still convinced, that there > are seperate partitions needed, for: /boot,/,/opt,/usr,/var, (and evt > /tmp), swap, and /home.) and then, one should be able to change sizes, > without having to delete /home. The systems i have to manage, have seperate /boot (normally not mounted) /usr and /opt (both mounted RO), seperate /tmp, /var, /var/log, /srv, /tmp and /home. > It must be possible to reduce the size of /home, if more room for fi: > /boot, /usr, and/or /var is needed. Create them at minimum, and resize them when needed > > I realy mean that it is totaly anoying, not being able to change your > available room, without spending hours to back-up the data you want to > save.. As said, use LVM with lvm+reiser you can enlarge them on-the-fly, but have to unmount them for shrinking > I simply can not understand that nobody else finds this nessesary. (Some people only create root-partition and root-user ;-() > > > Have a nice day, > Same to you, Final remark, for small partitions (<100MB) use ext3, not reiserfs And for those that never change (usr, opt) journaling is not needed. -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Add to wishlist (SSH)
On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 16:32 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > On Sat 12 May 2007 16:02:42 NZST +1200, Ciro Iriarte wrote: > > > Isn't that just for commandline?, it would be nice to have an applet > > in KDE to add/delete the keys Hi list, Some time ago, i came across a very nice tutorial (some hundred pages) how to build your own yast(2) applets, and the the main example that the SuSE-engineer was using, was the management of SSH !! AFAIR, from FOSDEM-2006, the intention was to include it into the mainstream distro, but i guess other projects have a higher priority! I keep the printed tutorial at work ;(. So i can't give you the exact URL but perhaps might another kind soul give you the exact location. HW -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] xen 3.0.5 / 3.1 on 10.3
Hi all, What are the chances that next version of XEN will make it into 10.3-beta? I don't know what the alpha/beta-closing-date is. But if 3.1 is not "official" by then, would SuSE dare to include an release-candidate? http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2007-05/msg00100.html Currently (10.3-A3) has xen-3.0.4-13138-13 On the xen-development-list, they said earlier this month,that 3.0.5 will be renamed to 3.1 and should be released anytime now(TM). While previous minor version upgrade (-> 3.04) was specially interesting for desktop users, this version is important for the server-area. Previous month they announced the final fix for having 32-bit DOMu running on 64-bit DOM-0. Hence... Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Topics dist meeting 2007-05-10
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 09:16 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > Obviously (to me) we're not talking about a desktop system here, there > are none with only 128MB of program storage. So what's the point of a > distro which needs twice as much RAM as it does disk space to even > install? Obviously: no install -> distro is pht. > Not so obviously. Consider (atleast) two options: 1) leightweight desktop (mail, web, im, office) 2) just NX-client (able to connect to appliction server) Both (should) fit on an USB-stick using some niche-distro's. But we rather use SuSE! (Name, stability and so-on..) Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] yast-tftpboot
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 00:09 -0400, James Tremblay wrote: > Hey guys, I know this trivial but , I was wondering if it would be > acceptable > to change the default on yast-tftp from /tftpboot to /srv/tftpboot . I am not > sure but wouldn't this be more LSB compliant as well as more friendly to KIWI > users? > James Tremblay > Director of Technology > Newmarket School District > Novell CNE 3\4\5 > CLE \ NCE in training. > http://en.opensuse.org/education > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Was already entered as Bug 188713 (rejected) (not only /tftpboot ==> /srv/tftp, but also /var/lib/mysql ==> /srv/mysql) And actually, one should also consider /srv/ldap, that currently also lives under /var/lib hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] IPv6
Does anybody know if its's possible to do "torrent" on IPv6? At first glance, it looks like ktorrent and bttrack are v4-only, eventhough according to the bt-protocol it should be v6-aware... Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] sles-10
On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 22:24 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote: > On Thursday 05 April 2007 22:17:33 Hans Witvliet wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Perhaps i am googling good enough. > > I'ce screwed up a system at work and thought i did a quick install with > > sles-10 (used to be sles-9) > > However, just before i left, i found out that the sles-10 DVD was not > > bi-arch, only contained x86, and not x86_64. > > And on the net the only 64 i can find is AMD. > > What do you mean? "AMD" is also good for Intel. Or are you looking for an > Itanium image? > Not enough sleep is getting th best of me ;( Just a multi-xeon blade-server. I use to install sles with a huge pile of CDROM, and afair, there were different cd's i386 and X86_64. I'll get ktorrent a kick Tnx -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] sles-10
Hi all, Perhaps i am googling good enough. I'ce screwed up a system at work and thought i did a quick install with sles-10 (used to be sles-9) However, just before i left, i found out that the sles-10 DVD was not bi-arch, only contained x86, and not x86_64. And on the net the only 64 i can find is AMD. Is it released, is it downloadable (iso/torrent)? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Boot speed and services
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 18:07 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > James Tremblay wrote: > > > If the education environments of the world are to have cheap > > computers they are going to have small HD's and limited ram so working > > Small HDs ? Are there any manufacturers that make harddrives with less > than 20Gb? > > > to reduce the installation minimum is of high priority. > > Yast needs at last 128Mb+swap to run anyway. > Forget about harddisks. Still trying installing SuSE on an usb-pendrive, and also have some storage-space left. Hopes that slick-project would fit on a Kobil-mIDentity stick or an Etoken-flash (only 1GB available) hw -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Frozen stiff after upgrade
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 08:46 -0800, J Sloan wrote: > > Hans Witvliet wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > > > Is this an isolated incident, or is it something for bugzilla? > > I had something similar with a new duo-core system I bought. The 10.2 install > went fine, everything seemed to run perfectly, but after a few days I would > find the box comatose - blank screen, unresponsive. The box would never exceed > 5 days uptime or so, and once I found it with a load average of 55 before it > went comatose. There was nothing unusual running on the box at the time, and > there were never any log entries indicating trouble. > > I installed the 2.6.18.5-SL102_BRANCH_20070120194918-default kernel on the off > chance that it might have a bug fix, and that seemed to improve the > reliability somewhat. > > The box became solid after I removed beagle, zmd and friends. It's been up for > a couple weeks now. Not enough data points really, but those few facts might > be of interest to someone. > Humble apologies for the noise! Mea culpa, pebkac Had a UDEV-config that worked fine on a working system, but caused havoc during booting. Broke the golden rule: never change more than one thing at any time.. (blush) Thought i tested the udev-rule enough, but obviously not. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] 10.2 Frozen stiff after upgrade
Hi all, Two days ago, at work, i upgraded a IBM-notebook that was installed with the 10.2-dvd. That particular machines was allways left non-connected, so when it was connected to the out-side world it discoverd that about 120 patches were available. After some time (ahum) most patches were installed (except the java-patches, that failed). Next day i booted the system, but it hang during startup, without any clear indication where of why (one time during ntfs, next time during wireless-setup, each time somewhere else. Fearing the worst, i let it run memtest for several hours, nothing came up. Booted the "other" OS; disk check, nothing wrong. Booted in resque mode from dvd, and performed filesystem check, nothing wrong. But still could not boot any more. Still system frooze stiff. AFAIK, there was no kernel-patch and the initrd was left unchanged before/after the upgrade. Because i had work to do, i re-installed the notebook again, hooked it up the net and had a suspicious look at the patches. As one of the patches involved lvm (which i allways use), I decided to install all, except lvm (and java that still failed to install) Installation and upgrade went well, untill the boot Is this an isolated incident, or is it something for bugzilla? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] ccid
Hi all, any chance for a recent upgrade of ccid? In -current it is still: pcsc-ccid-1.0.1 In the mean time, 1.1 was released, 1.2.0 and 1.2.1 AFAIK, the Midentity tokens from KOBIL need the latest version. Perhaps a candidate for 10.3? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller
On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 13:59 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > > > > 2) Get the base-packages as slim as possible: not even networking! > > If i want ethernet/isdn/i2c/??? OR i want to perform an installation via > > http/ftp/tftp/nfs it is my decision! > > The only thing that a base-package should be able to do, is installing > > other packages. I would suggest to think about the base-package as the > > ground work for embedded systems, that have a minimum hardware > > Here we disagree. This is another purpose than what we need. Don't think so. Allthough it's good to keep your mind on what you're doing, it's good to contemplate what and why one is doing something. (correct me if i'm wrong or stray to far off ;-) Currently, when installing you have four starting points with the installer: 1) standard Gnome desktop 2) standard KDE desktop 3) Minimum with X 4) Minimum With either of them you have the base package, and a number of selectable threads (was: selections) and of course individual selectable packages. Even with "minimal" you get a lot of goodies, which should have been selectable options, but are currently: a) selectable, but "ON" by default, instead of "off" (like tcpdump) b) have a mis-placed dependancy (like yast modules for radio,tv blue-teeth, opensc in a system that lacks the hardware) The first one, you can deselect manually, or create a xml-file for installing. The second one, you can remove the packages afterwards. But where are those options are going to? Some of them, like tcpdump should go back where they orinally came from powertools, or a "networking-thread" >From the top of my head, i remember installation is roughly done in two stages. 1) running from the initial boot medium (most rpm's ge installed here) 2) after the first boot (in which also configuration is done) AFAIR, in both stages a hardware scan is performed, not? Can't you use that to base your descicion on what is initially "on" or "off"? Coming back to the "four starting points" isn't that the place to have more options? 1) feature rich Gnome desktop (current "standard") 2) feature rich KDE desktop (ditto) 3) minimal gnome/kde desktop (fits on a pendrive, no autodetect) 4) minimal with X 5) "home server" 6) real bare minimalistic starting point (good for XEN DOM-0) 7) suggestion? > > > > 3) as you allready stated, you didn't mention the dependancies. > > And I think, here is where 99,99% of the work lies. > > > > For instance ssh has a dependency on opensc (because of libopensc) > > For me no big deal, as i play around with smartcards and tokes, but for > > other people? I really fear that the same is true for other packages. > > > > Are you willing to re-analyse all packages, and rewrite the spec-files? > > Eventhough the effort will be worthwhile, considering the concequences, > > do you think it feasable for 10.3? > > I'm not willing to do all this myself ;-) But I hope that all of you > will help with that and look at the culprits. This is something we > should do together ;-) Centainly! > Andreas -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] factory sync
On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 21:14 +0100, Claes Bäckström wrote: > Is there some problems with the sync to factory? > > Been a lot of commits to the commit mailinglist but nothing new at the > mirrors since 15 Jan. > > Warm Regards, > Claes Backstrom You mean "brand-new" or "new-upgrades"? yesterday (19-jan) i got in my rsync a new snort-2.4.5-26 rpm (And lots of others..) Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller
On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 11:47 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > "Claes Bäckström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Could we perhaps see a list of what you so far put in the "base" or do > > you need more time to tinker with it? > > Here's my current list - but it depends on the definition that we > have. Since I'm not sure whether we have consensus I didn't want to > share it with you. The list does not contain YaST modules, they are > in a different list - and that one needs further time to clean up. > The next factory sync will contain my current lists as well. > > Note that in most cases I omitted dependencies, so e.g. glibc in the > list below could be removed since it's required by others. grep is > not in the list but required by aaa_base. > > aaa_base > aaa_skel > bash > bzip2 > coreutils > cpio > dbus-1 > dhcpcd > e2fsprogs > filesystem > fillup > glibc > gzip > hwinfo > insserv > #if !defined(__s390__) > kbd > #endif > klogd > ksymoops > logrotate > mingetty > mkinitrd > module-init-tools > net-tools > netcfg > openssh > pam > pam-modules > procps > pwdutils > rpm > sed > openSUSE-release > suse-build-key > sysconfig > syslog-ng > sysvinit > tar > util-linux > > #ifdef __ia64__ > elilo > efibootmgr > ia32el > #endif > #if defined(__i386__) || defined (__x86_64__) > grub > #endif > #ifdef __powerpc__ > lilo > #endif > > If you think that something should be removed or added, let's discuss > it - and explain your definition of base, > > Andreas Hi Andreas, Some observations: 1) logrotate is a beautifull tool, but should be optional, just like sed, (since i'm a perl convert, i abandonned sed, awk) mkinitrd: afaik, only needed during installation/upgrades, not? Why have dhcp, *if* one chooses for static address? syslog-ng: probably can't run without it... 2) Get the base-packages as slim as possible: not even networking! If i want ethernet/isdn/i2c/??? OR i want to perform an installation via http/ftp/tftp/nfs it is my decision! The only thing that a base-package should be able to do, is installing other packages. I would suggest to think about the base-package as the ground work for embedded systems, that have a minimum hardware 3) as you allready stated, you didn't mention the dependancies. And I think, here is where 99,99% of the work lies. For instance ssh has a dependency on opensc (because of libopensc) For me no big deal, as i play around with smartcards and tokes, but for other people? I really fear that the same is true for other packages. Are you willing to re-analyse all packages, and rewrite the spec-files? Eventhough the effort will be worthwhile, considering the concequences, do you think it feasable for 10.3? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 16:03 +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Klaus Kaempf wrote: > > As written before, I'd see such tools as convenience applications. > > > > Maybe we should define the purpose and application of such a 'base' > > pattern first. > > Is it for > > 1. installing a really minimal but somewhat usable system via CD/DVD ? > > yes. > > > 2. running a (Xen) virtual guest ? > > yes. > > > 3. running a chroot environment ? > > Hmm ... > > > For 1., a minimal YaST or zypper would be essential, I agree. > > Yep. I think it should install something roughly comparable to the > rescue system (plus zypper to install packages and fetch security updates). > > > For 2. or 3. a bash prompt would probably be sufficient (plus a > > way to install the application you want to run virtualized.) > > Xen: no. You don't use xen guests just to boot to the bash prompt, > usually you want to do something useful with them. So you need some > convinent way to install software. You also want security updates for > them. I don't see how xen guests are that much different than a minimum > system on real hardware. > > chroot: very much depends on what you plan to do with it. The chroots > which are created for running daemons in there (named, dhcpd, ...) are > smaller than any package on the distro ;) For building packages you > don't need network, but some other tools such as make and a compiler. > > cheers, > Gerd You need to "slim-down" on two fronts: Disk-space and/or memory There are a number of tiny (live) distro's that whould run happily from a CD and are full featured graphical desktop, with OO.o, firefox, NX/VNC, gaim, Which should be able to have it on a 1GB usb-pendrive !!! While one could use all the mem there is. On the other hand, for XEN, you want to cut down on mem. Good examples for DOM-u's are: -DHCP -DNS -LAMP -Mysql/postgress -temporary compile engine You want to run those images with as little mem as needed At 10.0, i could have those running with as little as 128 MB, with still unclaimed memory. Now, with 10.2, 512 is hardly enough :( Here, disk-space if often not such a problem (SAN/NAS) When thinking of embedded system, then you have to slim down on both... Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 10:02 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > "Claes Bäckström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Something I would like to see in the "base" pattern is tools to > > install new software and with that I don't only mean rpm but a way to > > use a network source for installation and update perhaps zypper? And I > > personally never install a machine nowdays without lvm2 so for me that > > is a essential tool (others might disagree). But the update/install > > parts is the most important. > > You can always add other packages if needed for installation. So, if > there's agreement that lvm is not part of the bare base, you would > have to add it manually... > > Andreas Hi Andreas, Well, LVM would be the wrong example. It should not be a black-or-white situation: Very early on, a hardware detection should be done. And, for instance, only if tv-harware is found, only then the yast modules for confifuring tv should be installed. If you want to configure your basic system with lvm, you'll need lvm right away, but only in that case! I have a feeling that the dependency (for yast-modules) is too rigid: you get it, wether you need (or want) it or not. Refining the threads? The "minimal" system for 10.1 had a "rather large foot print" to put it mildly, and got worse on 10.2. If (and only if) i decide to install any resource-pig, disk-space and mem will be claimed. Not for: "perhaps they want it perhaps later on or so." If I want or need it, i'll selected & install it. I know, that systems tend to grow larger and larger (tnx to M$), but please, try to have a minimal system realy minimal. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Kernel Upgrade 2.6.20
On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 15:52 +0100, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Just one question: Does somebody know when the kernel upgrade to 2.6.20 > might be possible? So far, the kernel (in rc4) is there, but an update > is not possible es for example the wlan-kmp is missing (and yes, I'm on > a wireless connection). But still, I would like to test on the new > kernel, as some features of my notebook (Flash Media) should finally be > supported :-) > > Or is there something I can contribute in this case? > > Dominique Time flies when you're having fun.. Minor increment: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/linux-2.6.20-rc5.tar.bz2 -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] kio_http
Anyone else had a system with a load over 250 and a thousand kio_http processes? Could not find any references, so I submited Bug 230927 Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] no luck with luks
Just tried to replay an example from the net with luks under 10.2, without success. According to the aricle "Datan verschlussen mit dm-crypt fur Linux" from 11 december 2006 (rather up-to-date, I thought) i should do: dd if=/dev/zero of=crypt.img bs=1M count=100 shred -n 1 crypt.img losetup /dev/loop0 crypt.img cryptsetup luksFormat -c aes-cbc-essiv:sh256 -s 256 -y /dev/loop0 According to the man-page of cryptsetup that should be ok. cryptset up however fails with: WARNING! This will overwrite data on /dev/loop0 irrevocably. Are you sure? (Type uppercase yes): YES Enter LUKS passphrase: Verify passphrase: Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping. Check kernel for support for the aes-cbc-essiv:sh256 cipher spec and verify that /dev/loop0 contains at least 258 sectors. Failed to write to key storage. Well, crypt.img is large enough (100MB) in this example. A quick glance in /proc showed: # zcat /proc/config.gz |grep -i aes CONFIG_RADIO_MAESTRO=m CONFIG_SND_MAESTRO3=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_586=m CONFIG_CRYPTO_DEV_PADLOCK_AES=y And a deeper look in /usr/src/linux (default 10.2GM kernel) showed config 10.2 kernel: * Cryptographic options * Cryptographic API (CRYPTO) [Y/?] y HMAC support (CRYPTO_HMAC) [Y/?] y Null algorithms (CRYPTO_NULL) [M/n/y/?] m MD4 digest algorithm (CRYPTO_MD4) [M/n/y/?] m MD5 digest algorithm (CRYPTO_MD5) [M/y/?] m SHA1 digest algorithm (CRYPTO_SHA1) [M/y/?] m SHA256 digest algorithm (CRYPTO_SHA256) [M/n/y/?] m SHA384 and SHA512 digest algorithms (CRYPTO_SHA512) [M/n/y/?] m Whirlpool digest algorithms (CRYPTO_WP512) [M/n/y/?] m Tiger digest algorithms (CRYPTO_TGR192) [M/n/y/?] m DES and Triple DES EDE cipher algorithms (CRYPTO_DES) [M/y/?] m Blowfish cipher algorithm (CRYPTO_BLOWFISH) [M/n/y/?] m Twofish cipher algorithm (CRYPTO_TWOFISH) [M/n/y/?] m Serpent cipher algorithm (CRYPTO_SERPENT) [M/n/y/?] m AES cipher algorithms (CRYPTO_AES) [M/y/?] m AES cipher algorithms (i586) (CRYPTO_AES_586) [M/n/y/?] m CAST5 (CAST-128) cipher algorithm (CRYPTO_CAST5) [M/y/?] m CAST6 (CAST-256) cipher algorithm (CRYPTO_CAST6) [M/n/y/?] m TEA, XTEA and XETA cipher algorithms (CRYPTO_TEA) [M/n/y/?] m ARC4 cipher algorithm (CRYPTO_ARC4) [M/y/?] m Khazad cipher algorithm (CRYPTO_KHAZAD) [M/n/y/?] m Anubis cipher algorithm (CRYPTO_ANUBIS) [M/n/y/?] m Deflate compression algorithm (CRYPTO_DEFLATE) [M/y/?] m Michael MIC keyed digest algorithm (CRYPTO_MICHAEL_MIC) [M/y/?] m CRC32c CRC algorithm (CRYPTO_CRC32C) [M/y/?] m Testing module (CRYPTO_TEST) [M/n/?] m So what am i misssing? All available crypto parts are build as modules. Where should i check for: "Check kernel for support for the aes-cbc-essiv:sh256 cipher spec" (Not tried it yet on older machines, but will do) Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] XEN @ sles10
I've been browsing through the roadmaps / release notes of SLES-10 And i wonder if/when xen-3.0.3 will be released for sles 10 On the DVD contains XEN-3.0.2, (just like Boxed 10.1) Latest SuSE release uses XEN-3.0.3 which contain a number of important patches (full system freezes) a) Will it be in SP1 (many months to go) b) Can i upgrade (this part of sles) manually? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] GFS @ 2.6.19
Hi, Perhaps i'm just too eager... latest release notes of the 2.6.19 kernel indicated official support for GFS (which looks promissing). Unfortunately, the official kernel was released much too late to be used in 10.2. Seeing the truckload of patches in the releas-notes of 2.6.19 (3.6MB) and the version in factory (kernel-source-v2.6.19_rc3-16.6.src.rpm ) it's not clear what made it, and what is still pending. I wonder when i can experiment with it.. (kernel-patch) It's been a longe time, that i was persueing latest kernels, but this seems to be worthwhile, imho. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] synchronizing with ZENWorks
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 18:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > during final installation after first boot takes much too long to not > have a progress indicator to tell that it isn't hung. Perhaps i've been impatient... (I'd considered it to be hanging.) But after (re-)launching update it returned immediately... -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] root space, was Udate to 10.2 RC1 on 32bit PIV 1.8 Ghz. IBM..248M Ram.
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 12:22 +0100, Robby (M9.) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > Install went better, this time the graphical installer worked without > any complaints. > Something strange happens though: > Message from updater shows: no room on /root: -750kb. > But realy there is room enough: 377.2 M, from 502,0 M. > I also got a message during install, almost no room left, continue > install anyway? > Ofcourse i ignored that, and the install went on without any errors.. Look like a re-emerging of # 158785 At that time, root-space was not calculated correctly and was blocking. AFAIK, that was already solved hwit > -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 10:26 +0100, Jiri Srain wrote: > Hi! > > On Saturday 25 November 2006 19:35, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > > Hi all ! > > > > As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I > > would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules > > that I would like to see: > > > > 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files & partitions) > > 2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd) > > 3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh) > > 4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh) > > 5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX & Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects) > > Before you start writing any new module, please, get in touch with someone > from the YaST team in SUSE in order to check that the module is notbeing > developed by us and won't appear in next Alpha snapshot ;-) AFAIK FTP server > module is already being developed (but don't know the state of it ATM). SSH > server module is being used as example in the YaST tutorial. > Any plans for: -NIC-bonding? -VLAN-config -Asterisk configuration (zaptel, chan-capi, chan-iax ) -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:04 +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote: > Pascal Bleser wrote: > >> What do you think ? > > > > I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;) > > FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and > > then on #suse (IRC). > > I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but > it would be nice to hear what exactly users need. > IPv6 -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] xen
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 06:36 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Hans Witvliet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Im not sure i would call it a feature, let even alone enter it into > > bugzilla.. > > > > With B2, selecting minimal, text only PLUS XEN > > ==> kernel-xen got selected and installed <== > > > > However, the grub-menu was not extended. > > There was a bug that was marked as fixed, so it should have worked. > Please file a new bug with log files. > > > re-installing kernel-xen (Uvh) did no good. > > while forcing kernel-xen from yast did append the xen-section into grub, > > and making it even the default option (thanks for that change!!) > > I'll retest it on monday morning with RC (instead of B2) If still there: bugzilla hwit -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] "default" packages
Perhaps i should enter it as a requested enhancement ;-) When wanting a bare minimal system, (by selecting text-mode only) i expect a real-minimum, however I find a lot of packages installed, which might be very nice and helpfull, but i did not select them. they are in three catagories: a) nice be not requested: like tcpdump. This is something a often select, but it should be included into the catagorie of "power-tools for experienced users", not default. b) not wanted. If i want printing, i will select them: cups, cups-drivers, cups-libs, gutenberg, yats2-print should belong to a sub-thread c) waste of time/disk space hardware scan should know what kind of hardware there is. Why of why is yast2-scanner, yast2-irda, xfs-tools, dos-stuff installed My MOBO does not have a sound-card: so why do i get alsa? (new sound-thread) All of these packages are probaly nice for some people to have. But there are also lots of people who don't need them. Reasoning is this. Either if i select a packages manually, or it it gets installed by default, i have to claryfy its presence with an security officer. Same if its gets installed by default, i i decide to get rid of it. I rather have it not installed unless the it is really needed, Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] selections/threads/add-ons
Hi all, just went through the xml file intended for cloning a system. One thing struck me. Before the change from selections=>threads, i had a simple selection, with a couple of add-ons. Now i get a thread with dozens add-ons. Intended, or side-effect? Hans. -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] grub timeout
Did anybody notice that the default timeout of eight seconds disapeared from grub? I had to add that line over three times now After booting it just waits in the grub menu. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] xen
Im not sure i would call it a feature, let even alone enter it into bugzilla.. With B2, selecting minimal, text only PLUS XEN ==> kernel-xen got selected and installed <== However, the grub-menu was not extended. re-installing kernel-xen (Uvh) did no good. while forcing kernel-xen from yast did append the xen-section into grub, and making it even the default option (thanks for that change!!) Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] crypt
Remarks on the notes for last dist-meeting started me wondering Why is losetup not pam-aware? Is that easily patched (include libpam or something like that), or should i solve it in an other way? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] topics next dist meeting
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 23:53 +0100, Christian Boltz wrote: > Hello, > > Am Mittwoch, 15. November 2006 21:17 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: > > for tomorrow's meeting we have one topic so far: > > > > Encrypted Home Partitions: > > > > - Use dm-crypt and LUKS by default for newly encrypted > > partitions > > From what I remember from the german Linux Magazin some time ago > (multiple passwords per partition, passwords easily changeable etc.), > this is a very good idea :-) > > [... more good ideas snipped ...] > > > Any comments, suggestions etc? > > I'd propose to check how useful /etc/cryptotab is. > I see several disadvantages compared to an entry in /etc/fstab: > > a) /etc/cryptotab needs an explicit /dev/loopX entry > >YaST2 always puts the first (at partition creation time) available >device (usually /dev/loop0) to /etc/cryptotab > >This becomes funny if you manually add a loop mount to your fstab >which is mounted at boot time - in fact, you won't be able to mount >the encrypted partition because /dev/loop0 is already in use. > >In fstab, you don't need to specify which loop device to use - you >specify the "loop" option and it simply uses the first available, >whatever number it has. > >Yes, you can specify which loop device to use in /etc/fstab or you >can modify /etc/cryptotab to use another loop device - but this are >ugly workarounds. > > b) if you skipped mounting your encrypted partition while booting, you >can't mount them with "mount" afterwards if they are not listed in >fstab. See also https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=209647 >(which might be invalid for yast2-storage, but not for the whole >story) > > In short, there's no additional value by using a separate file > (/etc/cryptotab) for encrypted partitions, but several disadvantages > and problems. OTOH, I see no disadvantages when using /etc/fstab for > encrypted partitions. > > Did I already mention that I suggest to drop /etc/cryptotab completely > and to put all partitions, including encrypted, to /etc/fstab? ;-)) > > > Regards, > > Christian Boltz > > PS: If you decide not to drop /etc/cryptotab, please consider to drop > the "loop device" column. > I proposed this some time ago [1], but this was (understandable) > WONTFIX because it would be an incompatible change. Now that you are > going to do major changes, compatibility could get rated lower. > > [1] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=77126 (9.3 bug, > therefore not public unfortunately) > > Oh, and /etc/cryptotab bit back in 10.0 ;-) > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=105020 (public bug) > Short summary: The installation/update now ignores the "loop > device" column... > It's been a while ago since i experimented with crypto (beginning 10.1 ;-) But from what i recollect... 1) Using the general partitioner, with yast, results in a partition that gets mounted at startup. works well, but the partition gets mounted allways. 2) Some people (not me) wants to encrypt EVERYTHING, inluding swap and root. AFAIK, that is still not possible. Perhaps its should be pointed out, that it both a) irrelevant, and b) counter productive. a) 90% on the harddisk is opensource and general available b) encrypting cost cpu-cycles,so hard disk will be slowed down. 3) best solution (imho) is to have for each individual user a seperate container, which gets mounted on his home directory after login (pam_mount) 4) for the the paranoia, have also /var/spool/mail en swap encrypted Nothing else is worthwhile 5) for the super-paranoia, encrypt with the key from a smartcard. I still use loop-aes on my usk-stick and i would highly recommend it.. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Out of memory - endless loop
Gents,
I know that in certain circles, PHP has not a good
reputation( security) Untill know, i had never any problems.
I have a machine, not directly connected to the Net, and the only php
application on it is "cacti".
Yesterday, coming home i found the machine unresponsive, it did reply to
"ping", but that was all i could see (console dead, no reply to ssh)
After rebooting i found this in messages (below).
This section of "messages" repeated about hundred times
Is this a know feature of 10.1??
If there's a runaway process, too bad, that's life, it can happen.
But ending up in an endless loop is not good at all.
As it states "free swap = 0kb" it looks like a kernel process has eaten
all the mem, and that php gives the final trigger!
As it only happened once: i'll guess it's not reproducable.
Hans
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nov 13 18:55:01 fw3 /usr/sbin/cron[963]: (wwwrun) CMD (
php /usr/share/cacti/poller.php &> /dev/null)
Nov 13 19:00:01 fw3 /usr/sbin/cron[998]: (wwwrun) CMD (
php /usr/share/cacti/poller.php &> /dev/null)
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel: printk: 504 messages suppressed.
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel: oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201d2, order=0
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel:
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel: Call Trace: {out_of_memory
+53} {__alloc_pages+552}
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel:
{__do_page_cache_readahead+149}
{thread_return+0}
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel:{filemap_nopage
+323} {__handle_mm_fault+911}
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel:{do_page_fault+965}
{sys_select+795}
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel:{error_exit+0}
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel: Mem-info:
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel: Node 0 DMA per-cpu:
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel: cpu 0 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
Nov 13 19:05:11 fw3 kernel: cpu 0 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
Nov 13 19:05:12 fw3 kernel: cpu 1 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
Nov 13 19:05:13 fw3 kernel: cpu 1 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
Nov 13 19:05:13 fw3 kernel: Node 0 DMA32 per-cpu:
Nov 13 19:05:13 fw3 kernel: cpu 0 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:20
Nov 13 19:05:13 fw3 kernel: cpu 0 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:24
Nov 13 19:05:14 fw3 kernel: cpu 1 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:8
Nov 13 19:05:14 fw3 kernel: cpu 1 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:61
Nov 13 19:05:14 fw3 kernel: Node 0 Normal per-cpu: empty
Nov 13 19:05:14 fw3 kernel: Node 0 HighMem per-cpu: empty
Nov 13 19:05:14 fw3 kernel: Free pages:8016kB (0kB HighMem)
Nov 13 19:05:14 fw3 kernel: Active:104983 inactive:112014 dirty:0
writeback:0 unstable:0 free:2004 slab:13709 mapped:204535
pagetables:15090
Nov 13 19:05:14 fw3 kernel: Node 0 DMA free:4016kB min:44kB low:52kB
high:64kB active:3400kB inactive:3208kB present:12056kB
pages_scanned:16107 all_unreclaimable? yes
Nov 13 19:05:14 fw3 kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 993 993 993
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: Node 0 DMA32 free:4000kB min:4008kB
low:5008kB high:6012kB active:416532kB inactive:444848kB
present:1017828kB pages_scanned:2416680 all_unreclaimable? yes
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 0
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: Node 0 Normal free:0kB min:0kB low:0kB
high:0kB active:0kB inactive:0kB present:0kB pages_scanned:0
all_unreclaimable? no
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 /usr/sbin/cron[1069]: (wwwrun) CMD (
php /usr/share/cacti/poller.php &> /dev/null)
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 0
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: Node 0 HighMem free:0kB min:128kB low:128kB
high:128kB active:0kB inactive:0kB present:0kB pages_scanned:0
all_unreclaimable? no
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 0
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: Node 0 DMA: 0*4kB 0*8kB 1*16kB 1*32kB 0*64kB
1*128kB 1*256kB 1*512kB 1*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 4016kB
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: Node 0 DMA32: 0*4kB 2*8kB 7*16kB 1*32kB
0*64kB 4*128kB 1*256kB 2*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 4000kB
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: Node 0 Normal: empty
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: Node 0 HighMem: empty
Nov 13 19:05:15 fw3 kernel: Swap cache: add 420648, delete 420648, find
82842/99473, race 0+39
Nov 13 19:05:16 fw3 kernel: Free swap = 0kB
Nov 13 19:05:16 fw3 kernel: Total swap = 1052248kB
Nov 13 19:05:16 fw3 kernel: Free swap:0kB
Nov 13 19:05:16 fw3 kernel: 262080 pages of RAM
Nov 13 19:05:16 fw3 kernel: 5020 reserved pages
Nov 13 19:05:16 fw3 kernel: 9462 pages shared
Nov 13 19:05:16 fw3 kernel: 0 pages swap cached
Nov 13 19:05:16 fw3 kernel: Out of Memory: Kill process 32061 (php)
score 62063 and children.
Nov 13 19:05:16 fw3 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 32065 (php).
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[opensuse-factory] iso missing
Hi all, I tought i finnished download the lot, however.. the url pointing to "x86-64 Language Add-On" Producec a 1200 byte xml file saying that the file is not there! Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SPAM: Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: 10.2 beta1, software install don't start
On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 08:21 +0100, jdd wrote: > Anders Johansson a écrit : > > >> may be one hour later a firefox session was running when the > >> whole computer crashes (no mouse, no keyboard, completely > >> stuck). I had to leave, so I switched off the computer and > >> did not have the time to bring it up again. > > > > That sounds strange. After an hour, you say? Overheating? > > Sounds familiar ;-(( Boot from CD/DVD and run memtest for atleast 24 hours My own experience: Sometimes the addresses in red turn up in 15 minutes, sometimes after several hours. I have been running it each day. each time giving different malfunctioning addresses, never even once the same address. Several causes could be: 1) Power supply can not cope (after inserting or replacing pci-boards or drives. 2) Leaking elco's on the MOBO 3) Damaged mobo or mem (Recent lightning in the neighborhood, or not working ESD-safe?) Solution for either is costly. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ntp problems
> Sid Boyce wrote: > > > type=APPARMOR msg=audit(1159712726.582:6): REJECTING r access to > > /proc/net/if_inet6 (ntpd(3687) profile /usr/sbin/ntpd active > > /usr/sbin/ntpd) type=APPARMOR msg=audit(1159713575.608:7): REJECTING m > > access to /etc/ld.so.cache (netstat(4724) profile /bin/netstat active > > /bin/netstat) type=APPARMOR msg=audit(1159755718.633:8): REJECTING m > > access to /etc/ld.so.cache (netstat(801) profile /bin/netstat active > > /bin/netstat) type=APPARMOR msg=audit(1159802849.507:9): REJECTING m > > access to /etc/ld.so.cache (netstat(6917) profile /bin/netstat active > > /bin/netstat) > > > > OK, I'm running a vanilla kernel without apparmor, selinux enabled and > > the apparmor panel says apparmor is disabled, so it's puzzling. At one > > stage I did look around for apparmor patches, but none could be found. Hi Sid, It may be nothing, but you wrote that you have selinux ENabled. Same behaviour when you disable it? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] feasibility of porting opensuse to SPARC
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 11:29 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > "Alexey Eremenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Actually, openSUSE is very good OS and is more convenient than Solaris. > > > > So if you have powerful multi-CPU SPARC Server and want a convenient OS, > > openSUSE is the only way to go. > > > > This way you can reutilize Sun Servers as Linux Workstations or Servers. > > > > But this would require a very serious rebuild of the whole distro. > > > > Question: > > How much time it would require for 1 Linux expert to port all openSUSE from > > x86 to SPARC ? (including installer & full FTP repository) provided he know > > both architectures & works full-time. > > It's not that easy to give any timeframe. It depends on various > issues, so let me give some commands based on my work getting SUSE > Linux running on x86-64. > > The challenge is getting the base system running: > * gcc > * glibc > * binutils > * kernel > > The problem is that in these projects only a few folks take care of > SPARC. I do not know whether current versions of these do run at all. > > > > > 1 week, 1 month, 1 year ? > > If the above is done, there are two challenges: > * packages > * yast changes > > yast changes should be only partitioning and booting, the rest should > be generic. So, this is is something of a few weeks. > > With packages it's lots of time to rebuild everything (bootstrap) and > fix problems. Since we already support i386, x86-64, ppc, ppc64, > s390, s390x and ia64 most of the problems where packages are not > portable (endianness, 64-bit) should be fixed already. The problems > arise when packages are failing through the build. This is initially > quite often a problem in the toolchain but could also be a > non-portable package. So, this needs somebody that can debug bugs at > a low level and fix them. If somebody has these skills, this is > something of a few person months. > > Andreas Hi Andreas, I would hope that the real core basis (gcc, glib, binutils, kernel) were already sorted out for the old SuSE-sparc-port (rel 7.0...7.3) But at that time, not everything was "open" afair. If i'm not mistaken, "icecream" was able to cross-compile (for sparc, HP-PA etc). Is there any docu, HOW2 for that? It might speed-up the work that needs to be done... If there is a minimal installation, that can perform "an install or upgrade" from externally build packages, it would be easily for the community to add the rest. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussiong about Yast pattern-category for "Network Admins"
On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 20:52 +0800, Truth wrote: > Oh, and wireshark (originally called ethreal). Maybe you've already added > that? > How about Open-NMS Nice competitor for Cacti & Nagios -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Pre-Beta Beta comments
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 22:39 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote: > On Tuesday 12 September 2006 22:34, Hans Witvliet wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 14:10 +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote: > > > While reading the first CD, we have plenty of time to present the user > > > with a choice: eject, beep, popup, explode. > > > If he has not chosen before the CD is done, default to 'popup', and keep > > > the choice on screen. > > > > No, no, no. > > > > Only appropiate when doing the install on location in a buddist > > monastary. Installation sites are often noisy rooms, making "more noise" > > hardly usefull. > > Just as unhelpfull as a pop-up window, when your console is kvm-switched > > to another machine ;-) > > > > Leave the noise making to the managers, they are paid for that job! > > You don't actually stand in a server room while installing, do you? This is > what ssh or vnc is for > > But about the options, what's wrong with choice? If you don't like it, don't > enable it > What Klaus suggested (optional checkbox, default: off) is the best solution. -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Pre-Beta Beta comments
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 14:10 +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote: > While reading the first CD, we have plenty of time to present the user with > a choice: eject, beep, popup, explode. > If he has not chosen before the CD is done, default to 'popup', and keep the > choice on screen. No, no, no. Only appropiate when doing the install on location in a buddist monastary. Installation sites are often noisy rooms, making "more noise" hardly usefull. Just as unhelpfull as a pop-up window, when your console is kvm-switched to another machine ;-) Leave the noise making to the managers, they are paid for that job! -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Pre-Beta Beta comments
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 13:24 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: > * Stanislav Visnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 12. 2006 13:21]: > > Dňa Po 11. September 2006 19:15 Ricardo Cruz napísal: > > > Em Segunda, 11 de Setembro de 2006 05:12, o Keith Goggin escreveu: > > > > 2.Would it be reasonable to have the CD tray open automatically when the > > > > next CD is required? > > > > > > I agree, not because of laziness to press the eject button :), but > > > because > > > it notifies the user to insert the next CD who may be elsewhere in the > > > room > > > doing something else. > > > I have seen other distributions automatically ejecting the CD btw. > > > > I object - the tray might need attention for opening, just imagine your CD > > medium dropping off your drive, because you have your CD vertically. > > Or your computer case has a (closed) door in front of the CD drive. > > We might add a "automatically eject" checkbox in the "please insert CD x" > popup which is initially off. > Splendid, now everybody is satisfied! -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 15:35 +0200, Herbert Graeber wrote: > Ludwig Nussel schrieb: > > On Wednesday 06 September 2006 10:23, Stefan Dirsch wrote: > > > >> On SUSE Linux 10.1 we had about 5 small game packages in our default > >> installation + an additional Games selection used for all game > >> packages. Should we do it similar for openSUSE 10.2? Any other > >> proposals? > >> > > > > This one is nice: > > http://ri-li.sourceforge.net/ > > > Really nice. My childs will love it! > > This one looks interesting (check the video). I didn't try it yet as > > it has some exotic build dependencies: > > http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/uv/fretsonfire/ > > > Looka interesting. There is a link to another game: > http://keyboardsonfire.net/ > My kids like gcompris (gcompris.net and packman) But probably too large for the distro... Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 03:11 +0200, Azerion wrote: > > > > > yast2-dhcp-server > > > yast2-dns-server > > > yast2-instserver > > > yast2-nfs-server > > > yast2-nis-server > > > yast2-samba-server > > > yast2-tftp-server > > > > Configuring servers is not needed for clients, it could be in some > > server-related pattern. > > > > > Recommended (should have): > > > SuSEfirewall2 > > > > It's only recommended... > > > > Lukas > > I tatally agree with this. We have talked about this earlier but can't find > it > now. Andreas said that they are Required by YaST, but then is my question: > does openSUSE not manage YaST also? We have to delete those requirements so > 1. It does not have to be installed (duhhh) and the server-stuff won't appear > in YaST (one of my wishes for default install). > The dependency should be at an other point. IF (and only *if* ) i install nfs-software (f.i.), the appropiate yast modules should be installed. Ditto for the others. Same for TV, midi, isdn, blue-teeth, wifi (what else can people NOT install) and other hardware related yast-modules. If one only uses ext2 and ext3, why installing reiserfs? If you startup yast, all not installed options should be grey-ed out, so that people are aware, that if they install the hardware, support will be there. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 21:19 +0200, Luc Willems wrote: > On Friday 25 August 2006 13:36, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > Michael Löffler is currently on vacation and asked me to discuss the > > following, it's based on his latest draft. All errors are mine > > naturally ;-) > > > > Please give feedback and of course if there's something missing - tell > > us. > > > > pcsc-lite-1.3.1 (from 1.2.9) : card reader interface , also updated the card > drivers ( pcsc-acr38) > Not just pcsc: all of opensc/openct and muscle Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Minimal RAM requirement
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 12:41 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: > Rajko M wrote: > > vetter wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > what is the minimal amount of RAM required to do a installation? Both > > > graphical and text mode? > > > > > > We are working on a pattern for a minimal installation for 10.2, which > > > would make it interesting again for small/old machines with very limited > > > RAM. > > > > > > Perhaps one could strip down the text mode installer somehow to run on > > > machines with little RAM. > > > > > > What do you think? BTW, there is something like that on the wishlist > > > already. > > > > > > Maybe too late for 10.2, but next version. > > > > > > > If you have interest in small installation you can look at MiniSUSE > > project. Now when Andreas is looking for basic pattern, MiniSUSE has to > > redefine project goals, for instance to develop test procedure for > > minimal systems, so that results can be compared. > > Not only installation, but also desktop needs much memory. > > There is a result of my attempt to use SuSE Linux 10.1 on a 192 MB / > 333 MHz company notebook. > > I am using GNOME desktop. > > After following changes, I am able to use it without big problems. > > > 0. Installation > > Run time: Installation 12 hours, Online Update 10 hours > > Proposed solution: Before YaST goes to build catalogs, switch to the > console, create and mount swap partition. Remember to NOT configure this > partition in YaST, and add it manually to /etc/fstab later. Then wait. > > > 1. YaST Package manager > > Start time: 45 minutes > > You cannot get rid it. Start only text installation after boot when > nobody is logged in to save some memory (it decreases start time to > about 50%). Reserve one day for running initial Online Updates. Reserve > several hours for each subsequent Online Update. Do not touch the > machine in this time. If possible, do not use Package Manager, install > packages by rpm, then run SuSEconfig (decreases installation time to > about 3%). > > > 2. Zen updater > > Start time: Makes machine unusable for about 35 minutes after each > login. > > Proposed solution: Remove zen-updater and related packages (zmd, rug). > > > 3. Beagle > > Start time: Undefined, but often makes desktop unusable. > > Proposed solution: Remove beagle and related packages. > > > 4. Adobe Acrobat Reader > > Start time: 15 minutes > > Proposed solution: Use evince instead, remove Acrobat plugin. Evince > starts quickly, and even if it renders slowly, you wait ten times less. > > > 5. Evolution -> New Mail > > Start time: 10 minutes > > Proposed solution: Disable spell checker. Decreases start time to about > 2%. > > > 6. Tomboy > > New note time: 1 minute > > Proposed solution: Remove it from panel, maybe disable spell checker. > > > 7. gnome-main-menu (probably required in SLED10 or 10.2) > > Eats about 180MB of virtual memory. > > Proposed solution: Use standard GNOME menu. > Nice figures, but it does not say much without background info on what is installed and started up. By default, much programs are "preloaded". In systems running low on memmory, it will cause premature swapping. so disable the pre-loading !!! How many and what services had you running in the background? At work I have a 10.1 dhcp/dns/nptd/tftp server running on 200MB, which is using just half of it. otoh, a full blown KDE/gnome compile beast which is used for transcoding video, could easily use 8GB. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] FSH: mysql & tftp
On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 09:15 +0200, Michal Marek wrote: > Hans Witvliet wrote: > > The warning reminded me that by default, the mysql-data resided > > under /var/lib/mysql/ > > > > Which makes me wonder, according to the FSH, data belonging to > > servers/services should reside under /srv, just like www, ftp, tftp > > Good point. OTOH, which distributions use /srv/mysql? /var/lib/mysql > seems to be quite widely used. Anyway, please put this request to > bugzilla.novell.com and assign to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks, > Michal > Done: #188713 Certainly, it can be done manually afterwards. But when working for a department who is claiming to follow international standards and so, one finds lots of sysadmins unwilling, ignorant or just plain lazy to do so. Better make it default under /srv I would suggest /srv/mysql (obvious) And /srv/tftp instead of /srv/tftpboot, as tftp can be used not only for booting but for other purposes as well, like upgrading cisco-firmware. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] [Bug 169636] eth devices renamed
Hi, Doing some more regression tests, I was looking at some "old" problems. What is the purpose of this feature? I mean why should the kernel decide to start renaming eth-devices in the first place? I mean, if you have three (pseudo) ethernet devices, all with UNIQUE-mac address, on what ground is the kernel doing such drastic action... Hans Apr 21 16:02:42 ldap1 kernel: eth0 renamed to eth9 Apr 21 16:02:42 ldap1 kernel: eth1 renamed to eth10 Apr 21 16:02:42 ldap1 kernel: eth2 renamed to eth11 -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] FSH: mysql & tftp
Just came across a message about mysql: Important: Don't forget to _backup_ your /var/lib/mysql directory before testing! The warning reminded me that by default, the mysql-data resided under /var/lib/mysql/ Which makes me wonder, according to the FSH, data belonging to servers/services should reside under /srv, just like www, ftp, tftp Some releases ago, apache default doc-root moved from /var/.. or /home/www to the place where it should be: /srv Why has this not been done yet for mysql and tftp? Hans. -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] smartmontools for cciss
Any one else using HP DL360 or Dl380 ? last week i found out that current (10.1) release had an version (5.33) of smartmontools, which works on dl320. but not on larger iron. I came across a patch : http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-cvs-commits/2006-May/msg00581.html It is intended for tool version 5.36 and deals with the cciss driver. For correct for me (x86_64), so i added a enhancement request #186013 Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] directory install ?
On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 09:02 +0200, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote: > Hello, > > Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 23:26 schrieb Hans Witvliet: > > On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 18:05 +0200, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > can any make a install in a directory ? > > > > On which version? > > I have RC3 :(. > > This YaST2 Modul is total broken. > > YaST2 tell me the RPM datas are in use, when I say run YaST and SuSEconfig on > first boot, next reboot the "MAIN" System was new configured, all default > catalogue are in use . > > > With rc2 no problem. > > Have not tried rc3 yet. > ;) > Bummer! Will try GM first thing tomorrow at work. (Downloading now) Because our project with XEN, dirinstall is rather important to me otoh, perhaps they are working on my feature-request: being able to use the auto-install XML-files, which would save at lot of time during installations! Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] directory install ?
On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 18:05 +0200, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote: > Hello, > > can any make a install in a directory ? > On which version? With rc2 no problem. Have not tried rc3 yet. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] XEN
As release date is getting closer, and xen is going to be a part of sles-10, i wonder if anybody else had problems with xen. At work, i was asked to have a look at virtualisation, and because of my background, i prefer xen above vmware. On 10.0 systems 32/64-bit, xen (vs 3.0) seems stable enough. However on beta-6, beta-8 and rc1 (XEN 3.0.2) situation is highly unstable. Disks on the dom-U are not seen, loop-back devices still exist after dom-U is gone, verry picky about config files. I found that if one makes the slightest typo in a config file, it is no use to re-launch a dom-U, sometimes it works, often not. Mostly one has to start dom-0 (reboot) Anybody else testing xen? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-commit up & running
On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 12:08 +0200, houghi wrote: > > Nice to know that Beta 9 is out. ;-) > Forgive my ignorance, but on the download site it is still B8 Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default Root Partition Size
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:09 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes suggested > > by > > YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just went to install > > IBM > > Rational Software Architect. The install files take up around 2.5GB of > > space > > and the installed program itself takes another 2GB (I eliminated some of > > the > > options I didn't need) > > We could change the parameter for the calculation, currently we use 10 > GB as maximal size for root - but this is just one parameter to > change... > > So, what do others think? > > Andreas It's only because you're asking it, and i surely don't want to start an unholy war on the subject, but i was in the impression that it was good practice to keep root as small as possible (leaving some space to breath) /boot also as small as possible, RO, or not mounted at all /var should be big enough for any data for spool/mail/log /usr & /opt big enough for binaries (should not grow normally) /tmp whatever one needs as playground /home & /srv as much as possible So why should the root partition be so big anyway? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ibm intellistation
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 21:08 +0100, Peter Czanik wrote: > Hello, > Is anybody testing on IBM InteliStation machines? I just wanted to > install 10.1 beta5 on a machine witch worked fine with 10.0, but it > freezes at random points during the second stage of installation. I > never had a smooth install, it always froze somewhere (no ping, no > keyboard response), but never at the same point. It also does not boot, > if GRUB is installed to a partition (as it's default). Bye, > Hi, InteliStation does not ring a bell. I had no problem with b2 and b3 on a IBM blade center at work Hans. -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BETA4 mirror sync has begon
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 08:56 +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote: > Hi! > > I remember the times when I could install SuSE Linux with 8MB RAM. Even the > fattest commercial UNIXes can install with 256MB of RAM only. > > FYI: Recently I found out that 10.0 won't install with 192MB RAM (just as the > SLES9). > > Regards, > Ulrich I assume 10.0 on ppc. Have here 10.0 happily running on a 256MB machine. During install, you get a warning. But what the the heck, a warning ain't a fatal error ;-)) Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] AVM/SUSE/Novell long-term relationship endangered
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 13:55 +0100, houghi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 01:26:14PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > Correct in the case of non-GPL drivers - but e.g. AVM or any developer > > could make their own CD and ship it with their products like they do > > for Windows. Now we only need a stable kernel ABI ;-( > > They could do both. Having the drivers on teir CD would be a great thing. > They then could put a Penguin on their box and just suport it as anything > else. :-) > > houghi Ever thought of the possibility that they will ditch support for linux enterly? -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
