Re: Provocative thoughts
>Could I suggest the unthinkable as a POSSIBILITY? Not saying it is >true just a mere thought >Could G.S.E. actually BE an excitotoxin seeing as it causes the brain >fog? >Secondly, I've been meaning to suggest to the list another WILD >possibility... please forgive me if I seem rustic, but could the removal >of silver and gold coin from circulation be a major contributing factor >the onset of so many modern diseases? Mankind have used these for money, >(and for very good reason), from creation till now, and now all these >wierd diseases? I know that with WHO and nice organizations of similar >treachery we need not necessarily have this as a cause, but is it >possible? It's very possible that it added to the amount of disease there is now. Some other things to consider. Doctors don't check for diseases anymore. Not only that they rely on tests like the alisa, gunderson, wester blot and PCR that are as reliable as flipping a coin. AND that's the only tests that doctors rely on now. If they run one of thoses tests then find nothing it's PROZAC TIME. Something that I posted to the Rife list a few days ago you should read also. Dr. Rife found that the viruses that cause cancer come from the E-coli bacteria. There are two and he called them the BX and BY virus. He found that when the E-coli bacteria was in the right medium it produced these viruses. When in one medium it produced the BX and when in another it produced the BY. These are the two that causes the two different types of cancer. Now I'm sure you've all seen the E-coli scares that have happened in the past year or so. This wasn't a problem years ago because they used to cure their meat with salt in a smoke house. My grandfather even had one. Salt will kill almost any bacteria-virus that it comes in contact with. Something else to think about. When the E-coli is in the right medium to produce these viruses it doesn't die it just keeps on producing. Kinda like a mother having childern or a virus factory. Not only that it keeps on multiplying. Now they use chemo and other things to try and control the viruses that it produces but they never use antobotics to get rid of the virus factorys. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: psoriasis
BTW Yellow dock grows everywhere, and its not too late to harvest it, thought it is all brown and dead on top. Pull it up, and make a tea (boil for about 20 minutes) using about 1-2 tablespoons. The amount in a capsule is not likely to do you much good unless you take a heap of them. Charles Debbie McDonald wrote: > Once again, delete if not interested. I did not note who was using > remedies so > sending to list. > > > > Has anyone used yellowdock tea for psoriasis..thanks. > > > > > No, but I am taking herb capsules which contain yellow dock. Just > > started taking them a week ago and am noticing positive reduction of > my > > red patches. I am also applying aloe vera gel topically twice a day > > > which dramatically reduces itching and promotes healing. > > > -- > > Debbie McDonald > > mailto:lullw...@flash.net > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: another site
While 5-HTP is apparently some great stuff, beware as most of it has stearic acid or magnesium stearate in it, which I have been told is very hard on the immune system. If anyone on the list has any knowledge about the stearic acid thing, I'd appreciate more understanding. Charles Debbie McDonald wrote: > In case this helps any of us, (delete if not interested). I only read > part of > the book excerpt on 5-htp and it was very interesting. It included > sections on > CFS, Depression, etc . Take a look. > > > http://www.iherb.com > > -- > > Debbie McDonald > > mailto:lullw...@flash.net > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Provocative thoughts
Hi Debbie, GSE, Grapefruit seed extract, also called "standardized extract of grapefruit", is a powerful antimicrobial agent that is effective against yeast and protazoans. However MANY people who take it get severe brain fog such as myself. One list subscriber recently posted an excellent link to a page about excitotoxins, which are toxins which excite never cells, (i.e., primarily brain cells) to DEATH. Aspartame, "Nurti-sweet" is the prime culprit. But there are a great many of them, and they are allowed to be labeled under nearly any description, such as "natural flavors"! Watch what you eat! Anyway I thoguht to ask this question, which is probably erroneous, but I thought I would see what people on the list may think. Is. GSE an excitotoxin, seeing as it has this peculiar effect in so many people? Charles Debbie McDonald wrote: > > > > >Could I suggest the unthinkable as a POSSIBILITY? Not saying it is > > >true just a mere thought > > > > > >Could G.S.E. actually BE an excitotoxin seeing as it causes the > brain > > >fog? > I missed something here, please fill me in on the thread that says > that GSE > causes brain fog. Deb > -- > > Debbie McDonald > > mailto:lullw...@flash.net > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
OT: Brain fog anecdotes
Just a personal note... About 3 years ago, I also had a form of "brain fog" and very low energy. About that time I first read Hulda Clarks book "Cure for All Diseases" and did some of her liver flushes. My energy and awareness greatly improved and I highly recommend the procedure. ...Tom -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and yogurt
Hi Jim. Just wondering -- any chance your test could have been skewed due to the presence of the sea salt? I know salt can kill some forms of bacteria/germs. ...Tom jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: > This CS was made in heated water with a bit of sea salt. I would > guess the ppm is in the range of 25 to 35 ppm. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Silver?..Are you sure?
Hi all, I have been here for a while. I was all for silver a first. I am not now. I owe an explanation. (1) Silver is questionable in it's effectiveness. (2)Silver may have after effects...(turning blue)...I don't want itDo you? (3) There are better alternatives.olive leaf extract...grapefruit seed extract..no side effects!!! Thats it! My two cents worth. I suspect I will be flamed for this. That's okay..I enjoy it. Hope you read this far, Paul
Re: Castor Oil
7-5-98, Charles L. Church wrote: > >Dear List, > >Would the person who posted that GREAT message on castor oil be willing >to send it along to me at h...@piggott.net ? I seem to have misplaced it. >Also, would it be acceptable to put this information on my home page? >http://www.piggott.net/~hhr/ Charles, I'm sending your copy separately. You'd really need to ask Dr. Williams about posting a copy -- the article is from his copyrighted newsletter, Alternatives. It's published by Mountain Home Publishing, 2700 Cummings Lane, Kerrville, TX 78028 phone 210-367-4492 Ask for subscription information, too. --Bill -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Doctor bashing
Hi all. I agree with Mike D, W. D. Cavanaugh and all the rest who rallied in defense of those in the medical establishment who are possibly willing to cross the line into this/our dimension. My perspective/attitude on doctors in general is quite tainted because of having had to deal with them on a continual basis since I was 4 years old. I doubt that there are many on the list that can claim the same amount of experience. This does not make me an "expert" on ALL of them, but I can surely attest with great accuarcy to the high degree of hypocracy and lack of *real* concern for The Truth, whatever that may be -- at least in the field of Cystic Fibrosis research. It's like that old joke: A scientist puts a frog on a table and takes note of how far the frog jumped with all 4 legs -- after alarming it with a sound -- writing, "Frog jumped 3 feet with 4 legs". Then he removes 1 leg and presses the alarm again observing, "Frog jumped 2 feet with 2 legs". Then he removes another leg, presses the alarm and observes, "Frog jumped 6 inches with 1 leg". Finally, removing the 4th leg and pressing the alarm he writes, "Frog goes deaf". If the "doctors" are committed to *really* healing the sick, why are they barking up so many wrong trees to begin with? A perfect example of what I'm talking about is the fact that Joyce Inouye has posted on her site PROOF that Colloidal Silver KILLS THE VERY BACTERIA THAT KILL MOST OF CYSTIC FIBROSIS VICTIMS!! Studies done by an actual lab and even earlier reports from DECADES ago have confirmed it for all the doubters, not to mention my own experience! So why are these "healers" and supposedly truthful "doctors" with a mission to help humanity ignoring this information? Why is a friend of mine with the same disease not expected to live past the next week because all the drugs they've been giving him FOR THIS VERY SAME BACTERIA have ruined his kidneys and liver and other systems are now shutting down? That's where my attitude stems from. I *used* to blindly trust them [like most people] and now I'm paying for it. Most people with marginal "doctor" experience may not feel the same way, and -- as I said in my first "doctor-bashing" agreement -- there *are* some good ones out there who *are* just plain ignorant of these options [like CS] and *may* be willing to learn and *maybe* even risk their career JUST to help people, but they're so few and far between that I wouldn't hold my breath. Most wouldn't risk their entire schooling and high-paying career to start replacing their drugs with Colloidal Silver. They may *want* to or feel a sincere desire to do so, but sayin' ain't doin'. So they stay close to the security of their AMA masters while continuing to use many of the poisons they really don't need to and getting paid well for it. If *YOU* had invested in a long/expensive medical education and someone proved that half [or more] of the drugs you were prescribing and treatments you were getting paid for doing could cease because of a substance that can be made in someone's kitchen, would you cross that line? Move to Mexico? End up like Wilhelm Reich or Ruth Drown [and they weren't even "doctors"]? Most AMA "doctors" remind me of that scene from the film COOL HAND LUKE where Paul Newman is being put in "the box" for solitary confinement and the jailer apologizes because he's "just doing his job"; Luke says to him, "Callin' it a job don't make it right". I salute any doctor couragious enough to rebel against the mighty force of The Dark Gods, but the sad truth is that 98% of them simply won't. Dameon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Provocative thoughts
What is G.S.E??? Can't find a link to that subject. Anyone, please?? Tom Bassett tbass...@intercall.com if you prefer. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Provocative thoughts
> > >Could I suggest the unthinkable as a POSSIBILITY? Not saying it is > >true just a mere thought > > > >Could G.S.E. actually BE an excitotoxin seeing as it causes the brain > >fog? I missed something here, please fill me in on the thread that says that GSE causes brain fog. Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Doctors
I agree totally with MIke. J. Lay -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Intro and Overview FAQ
Thanks for the intro reprint. As a new subscriber, I find this info. very helpful. How do you get the link addresses embedded in your text? I hate to sound that dumb, but there it is. I am subscribing to the oxylist also, and I intended my Doctor bashing posting to respond to someone's expression in the oxylist postings of irritation with IBOM's policy of charging for a list of their registered practioners.[I think they charge 5 bucks, which probably just covers their mailing and office costs. I suspect they have to cover legal fees to fight the AMA and pharmaceuticals also.] It sounded appropriate to the silver list, too. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Follow-up on Castor Oil
I just found the article sorry about that anyway, I would still like to know if it would be alright to put this article on my web site. Charles -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Castor Oil
Dear List, Would the person who posted that GREAT message on castor oil be willing to send it along to me at h...@piggott.net ? I seem to have misplaced it. Also, would it be acceptable to put this information on my home page? http://www.piggott.net/~hhr/ Thanks Charles L. Church -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Doctor bashing
A number of derogatory statements have been made about physicians and their power trips/moneygrubbing. Let's try to keep some perspective on this. There are a lot of docs out there who aren't bad guys, and they're fighting constantly to get alternate therapies available. I'm thinking in particular of Drs. William C. Douglass II and III, and the many other physicians of the IBOM and the ACAM. By the way, in speaking up for alternate medicine practicioners, I need to emphasize that I may be a Surgeon, but am not licensed to practice medicine. I do consider myself to be pretty sharp-get the point? I've been known to cut to the heart of the matter, and make some incisive remarks. My slice is pretty bad, too, so I keep off the links. You're probably tired of all this cutting up, so suture self. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Provocative thoughts
I think of myself as a techno-peasant. I think you just might have something there boss. You put a *silver* dime in a dish of bacteria culture and the bacteria will not grow next to the dime. dan == === -Original Message- From: Charles L. Church To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, July 05, 1998 1:16 PM Subject: Provocative thoughts > > >Could I suggest the unthinkable as a POSSIBILITY? Not saying it is >true just a mere thought > >Could G.S.E. actually BE an excitotoxin seeing as it causes the brain >fog? > >Secondly, I've been meaning to suggest to the list another WILD >possibility... please forgive me if I seem rustic, but could the removal >of silver and gold coin from circulation be a major contributing factor >the onset of so many modern diseases? Mankind have used these for money, >(and for very good reason), from creation till now, and now all these >wierd diseases? I know that with WHO and nice organizations of similar >treachery we need not necessarily have this as a cause, but is it >possible? > >Charles >http://www.piggott.net/~hhr > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Sources for powdered amino acids(bulk)
http://www.jomarlabs.com/prices.htm -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re:psoriasis
Once again, delete if not interested. I did not note who was using remedies so sending to list. > > Has anyone used yellowdock tea for psoriasis..thanks. > > > No, but I am taking herb capsules which contain yellow dock. Just > started taking them a week ago and am noticing positive reduction of my > red patches. I am also applying aloe vera gel topically twice a day > which dramatically reduces itching and promotes healing. > -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Provocative thoughts
Could I suggest the unthinkable as a POSSIBILITY? Not saying it is true just a mere thought Could G.S.E. actually BE an excitotoxin seeing as it causes the brain fog? Secondly, I've been meaning to suggest to the list another WILD possibility... please forgive me if I seem rustic, but could the removal of silver and gold coin from circulation be a major contributing factor the onset of so many modern diseases? Mankind have used these for money, (and for very good reason), from creation till now, and now all these wierd diseases? I know that with WHO and nice organizations of similar treachery we need not necessarily have this as a cause, but is it possible? Charles http://www.piggott.net/~hhr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re:another site
In case this helps any of us, (delete if not interested). I only read part of the book excerpt on 5-htp and it was very interesting. It included sections on CFS, Depression, etc . Take a look. > http://www.iherb.com -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Doctors
Dear Mike and all, I just wanted to mention that my new doctor here in Oceanside was quite interested in Colloidal Silver when I mentioned it to him. He requested more information. I may send him to the list, as he has a computer! His name is Dr. Newman. Go Doc!!! Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Doctors
Mike,
The applause you hear in the background is mine. Probably a host
of others, as well. When a person of a different ethnic background
makes me angry, I don't indict their ancestors.
Our doctor doesn't run the AMA. Many priests I have known (though
I'm not Catholic) have VERY different opinions than their church.
Were they to make that common knowledge, they'd lose not only their
credibility with the masses ('scuse the pun,) but very possibly
their jobs. My brother is CEO of a large corporation, but with
politics involved I feel reasonably sure he bridles his tongue
(and his practice.) There IS a place for politics. It keeps us
from devolving into "is not..." "is,too..." incoherency. We
want to get our point across as efficiently and acceptably as
possible. And I believe that to be true of those doctors who
KNOW about good alternative treatments, yet who have been hired
under the constraints that don't allow them to openly use unapproved
methods.
BLESS 'EM. Many of them are doing the best that they can, with what
they have, where they are. We are doing the same. I, for one,
agree with Mike that we need to get along (and cut some slack.)
Wil C.
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Intro and Overview FAQ
Hi all! Marsh asked me to re-post this... - Greetings and welcome to the silver-list. This FAQ will give you a brief introduction to the world of Colloidal Silver and an overview by way of a few decent web sites. INTRODUCTION: First, please understand that a *lot* of what you'll find online about colloidal silver (CS) is imprecise, unscientific, and hype. There are almost no controlled studies of any kind. There is precious little objective data to back up even the most fundamental claims. Also, there is a backlash against colloidal silver from "debunkers" who will do everything in their power to scare you away through exaggeration and fear. They dismiss *all* favorable evidence and results in apparent overreaction to the plentiful CS hype. Their claims do not hold up in the face of readily available facts. Most of the information you receive will be anecdotal testimony, to be taken on faith or common sense until you can verify it yourself. And be forewarned, you'll find yourself rubbing shoulders with advocates of every kind of "alternative" medicine, from time honored to wildly speculative. What persists, when all is said and done, are the compelling accounts of people who have successfully treated some very serious conditions. They are not trying to sell you anything, but only want others to be helped as they have been. It is these people that have made me want to discover the truth about colloidal silver. A WEB OVERVIEW: A good jumping off point is this article by Peter Lindemann which lays the groundwork and points out some of the mythology that confuses the issue: http://www.elixa.com/silver/lindmn.htm Commercial CS Generators: These sites are good sources of CS information and low voltage direct current CS generators: Elixa, http://www.elixa.com Sota Instruments, http://www.sota-inc.com/index.html A variety of more sophisticated high-voltage AC and DC generators are offered by: CS Pro Systems, http://www.csprosystems.com/ Build Your Own CS Generators: It's easy and inexpensive to build your own CS generator. Plans and instructions as well as kits and pre-wired units can be found at these individuals' web sites: Mark Metcalf, http://www.silversolutions.com/ Read his Article One and Article Two, linked at the bottom of the left-hand frame Thomas Miller, http://www.bioelectrifier.com/ The link to the CS generator is near the bottom of the page. Other Information And Product Sources: http://www.wwmagic.com/clearlake/index.html They sell an interesting sounding book by a "Dr. Hill." They have excerpts on line. http://www.escape.ca/~revive/ and http://www.xpressnet.com/bhealthy These folks sell a mild silver protien product that is quite carefully made. A lot of good silver info on their site. http://www.wishgranted.com/ The online version of a booklet about CS. The author indulges in a couple of radically speculative scientific theories, but the information on CS is helpful. CONCLUSION: When you browse these sites you will inevitably find conflicting information about different products or methods. Especially, many vendors will claim their products are "unique" or "superior" or the "only safe and effective CS." Take such claims with a grain of salt! There are also many other sites and resources. In no way do I wish to imply by the inclusion or exclusion of any site that this is the best there is. Nor do I endorse everything, or necessarily anything, you will find in them. I hope that exploring these sites will give you an idea of what CS is, how it is made and used, and some of the issues that are being debated among different vendors and experimentors. If you have more questions or need help getting started, feel free to ask for help on the silver-list. The silver-list is a moderated, non-commercial forum for discussion of Colloidal Silver and related topics. We steer clear of religious and political topics, and stay close to our central mission of learning about CS, helping interested newcomers get started, and supporting our efforts to be healthier. Thank you for reading this far. I hope to get to know you on the list. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner *** DISCLAIMER: I'm not a doctor and I don't dispense medical advice. None of the materials spoken of or referenced here are intended to take the place of the advice of a competent professional. If you choose to experiment with anything found in any of the above, you are solely responsible for ascertaining its safety and suitability and seeking professional opinion before proceeding. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-diges
Doctors
Hi everybody! I'd like to make a comment about doctors, as it applies to this list... On 4 Jul 98 at 16:45, Dameon wrote: > You are correct. 98% the "doctors" in this country are scum. At > best, they are educated idiots. *Some* surgeons *may* be an > exception: When I had 12 hours to live because of a bad appendix > that was leaking poisons into my system, I was grateful for > surgery. In *some* cases they *are* necessary. It worries me to see this sentiment expressed by so many folks on the list. We *all* have had bad experiences, and some nothing but. I've got no problem seeing that. If the MD's, the AMA (or equivalent in your country) and the pharmaceutical companies had even most of the answers, none of us would need to be here. I'm sure every epithet you can dream up may be rightly applied to some doctors. But, as Dameon admits, sometimes they *do* save lives. Probably more often then we would like to admit. I would have been a widower with two small babies to raise were it not for modern antibiotics and the diagnostic and treatment skills of a particularly *good* obstetrician. I only feel the need to defend doctors because I think it's necessary that at least *some* of them be willing to help us. And I would go so far as to say that some are victims of the "system" as much as we would be if we didn't fight back. Any doctor asking us for info on alternative treatments faces *far* more hostile regulatory, political, and economic threats than any of us do. We had a bad time with Tom Clayton, who was on the list for a while back in Dec-Feb. He was undiplomatic and too impatient to deal with us and it didn't work out. On the other hand, we've got Doc V. in Italy (Hi Raul!) who's posted to the list several times and been well recieved. Further, I have no idea who's reading this right now that won't post for fear of attack, from us or within his/her own profession. I say any physician or scientist willing to share knowledge with us and meet us half way ought to be welcomed, or at least tolerated. If they're civil, I don't *care* if it's hard for you, but be civil back. It would help if they would leave their "authority" at the door and meet us as intellectual equals. I hope at least a *few* will be able to do that! I don't know what kind of ground rules we need. But I think the list is evenly divided between those who have no use for doctors at all and those who, like me, would appreciate any help that's freely given (and the rest could probably care less!). I'm open to your thoughts and ideas on this. Anybody wanting to correspond in e-mail or on the list is welcomed to do so. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: The size of things
See what I mean by a slipping I.Q.? I never caught the mm, and probably would have quoted the mm, instead of um. Then everyone I know would've said, "See, I told you they were fringe nitwits," thus including all of you in my new non-proofing persona. Thanks again, Bob. Wil -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: The size of things
I noticed the same thing, but I wasn't going to say anything. I figured Susan was intending to say micrometers, or microns, so I mentally corrected it and read on. A good way to write micrometers would be to use "um". The "u" is the closest thing in the standard ascii character set for the greek lower case micron. So the ideal range of silver particle is something like .001-.0015um, or 1 to 15 nanometers. Oh well! Mike D. On 4 Jul 98 at 12:47, Bob Lee wrote: > Hi list, > Was scanning some postings and my eye caught on some numbers. My > brain likes numbers so my eyes are alert to them. A posting was > talking about blood and said that a red blood cell was 7 mm in > size. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Testing CS/grapefruit seed extract
Unfortunately, we do not know of any alternative Internet source beyond the one I listed earlier. However, there is a possible course open to you. One of our staff members has obtained a copy of Dr. Blaylock's book on the subject, entitled, "Excitotoxins:The Taste That Kills". He has read it and informs me that it covers, essentially, the majority of the data we have learned from Dr. Blaylock. The book is, he states, superbly documented with approximately 500 source references for about a 300 page book. Our staff member said he purchased the book from Amazon Books, on the Internet. He paid around $14 or $15, plus shipping. I have not, personally, read the book, but this engineer---one of our brightest---declares it to be a superb and sobering revelation. I hope this is of help to you. Brooks Bradley. At 01:25 PM 7/4/98, you wrote: >At 02:52 AM 7/3/98 -0500, you wrote: > >> Your reference to "brain fog" prompts me to offer the following >>suggestion. Our research group has been doing some investigational >>inspections of existing literature/research results relating to >>Excitotoxinsand their effect on the human brain. Among our sources we >>discovered the work of Dr. Russell L. Blaylock, M.D. Our entire staff was >>thunder-struck by the evidence Dr. Blaylock revealed. I encourage all >>members of this list to avail themselves of a general review of his work. > > Do you have a source for people without sound cards & audio > capabilities? > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
