Re: CS>Merry Christmas

[Cindy Powell]

Merry Christmas to you as well, Ivan, and a Merry Christmas to all on this
list.  This has been the most enjoyable and informative list I have
participated on.  Thanks to all of you for the humor and the knowledge that
you have shared, and a big ~thankyou~ to Mike for starting and moderating
this list.

Best wishes for a wonderful 2000 to you all.

Cindy
-Original Message-
From: Ivan Anderson 
To: Silver-List 
Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 5:13 AM
Subject: CS>Merry Christmas


>Hello all,
>
>Have put young Rachael (6yrs) to bed, and am waiting to put some
>stocking fillers in the pillow case, the one with a picture of Santa
>on it, at the foot of her bed. It took some time for her to settle,
>she is so excited.
>
>I get a little sad at Christmas, remembering how it used to be...
>
>But then, it will be all go tomorrow and a happy time here.
>
>And I hope it will be a happy time at your house, my friends.
>Merry Christmas to you!!!
>
>Ivan.
>
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Re: CS>New Scars On Face

[Carol Kehoe]

> >  I had a very bad burn on my hand a few weeks ago (3rd degree).  I
immediately rubbed fresh aloe on it and continued to spray it several times
a day with cs.  I alternated cs and aloe for about 4 days.  The only thing
left to show is a very light pinkish scar that is continuing to fade.  My
husband a friends were amazed.  I was pretty happy too

Carol
> > > Subject: CS>New Scars On Face
> > >
> > >
> > > I had an accident last night and have
> > > some bad cuts on my face.  I would
> > > like to find something that will prevent
> > > any scars from forming.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Bret
> > >
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Re: CS>fibromyalgia

[Jolly Garland]

How can you be sure?  Its not listed on all labels.

"d.linen" wrote:

> Marshall Dudley wrote:
> >
> > It is possible that if it is being caused by aspartame, then eliminating
> > aspartame is all that is required to "cure" it, since we are talking about a
> > toxic reaction.
> >
> > Marshall
>
> Hi Marshall,
>
> Thanks for answering my question. I quit ingesting aspartame some time
> ago and do still have fibromyalgia. I refuse to eat or drink anything
> with that poison in it now.
>
> Do you think that it also helps bring on Migraine headaches for some
> people?
>
> Diane
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Re: CS> The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

[Ignit Bekken]

>>  The inventor is Dr. A.B. Flick M.D. and the contact for the bandages is
Roger Sayles and last but not least, their website is at
http://www.silverlon.com <<

If they would have shown all the 'fingers' like they showed the last one,
dated 11Aug. 1995, I would have believed it 

Ignit Bekken, Surinammailto:ign...@sr.net
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Re: CS> MSM?

[hughman1]

Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane: a natural source of sulfur.
- Original Message -
From: "G&B Rogers" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 6:10 AM
Subject: CS> MSM?


> What does MSM stand for?  I've seen it referred to quite a bit.  TIA
>
> Beth
>
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> 
> >To: 
> >Subject: Re: CS>New Scars On Face
> >Date: Sun, Dec 26, 1999, 1:35 AM
> >
>
> > MSM mixed with CS, colostrum, and aloe are ingredients i have of greater
> > benefit than vitamin E.
>
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Re: CS> MSM?

[G&B Rogers]

Thank you Chuck!

Beth

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>Date: Mon, Dec 27, 1999, 9:26 PM
>

>>What does MSM stand for?  I've seen it referred to quite a bit.  TIA
>
> This will get you up to speed:
>  http://www.dancingwolf-inc.com/nutrisignif.html
>
> The new wonder supplement of the millenium
>   Chuck
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Re: CS> MSM?

[CKing001]

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:10:32 -0500, "G&B Rogers"  wrote:

>What does MSM stand for?  I've seen it referred to quite a bit.  TIA

This will get you up to speed:
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The new wonder supplement of the millenium
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CS> MSM?

[G&B Rogers]

What does MSM stand for?  I've seen it referred to quite a bit.  TIA

Beth

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>Subject: Re: CS>New Scars On Face
>Date: Sun, Dec 26, 1999, 1:35 AM
>

> MSM mixed with CS, colostrum, and aloe are ingredients i have of greater
> benefit than vitamin E.


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Re: CS>FW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

[tgw0]

You may also wish to check out the work of Dr. John R. Christopher, who
wrote the book School of Natural Healing.

Ted

James Allison wrote:
> 
> Actually, I have a copy of the pictures of the finger of which you type, and
> they will be posted on my website within a week.  I am going to be a
> distributor for the company that manufactures the bandages which promoted
> the healing.  It's pretty awesome stuff!  The bandages that were used are
> called "SILVERLON" and they are made for a company called "Argentum
> Research, Inc." which is located in Lakemont, GA.  The inventor is Dr. A.B.
> Flick M.D. and the contact for the bandages is Roger Sayles and last but not
> least, their website is at http://www.silverlon.com
> 
> My main question is not of the miraculous healing, but of why the FDA has
> approved the SILVERLON bandages, which work because they are 99% pure silver
> and 1% silver oxide and yet the FDA supports the bashing of silver in it's
> colloidal form.
> 
> On a side note, thank goodness we're finely getting back "on topic".
> 
> Yours in health,
> James Allison
> 
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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Fred]

Marshall said:
>I have a hard time undertanding how a culture could have flying machines, yet
>write on clay tablets.

You forget how clever those early traders were, they only sold the license
and never said when delivery would be, figuring the clay tablets would be
dissolved in the later acid rain, when a fuel was invented!

f...@health2us.com


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Re: CS>FW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

[James Allison]

Ack! I shoulda went to their website before I posted that last message, as
you won't need to wait to see the pictures, because they have them posted at
the silverlon site already.

Yours in health,
James Allison

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Re: CS>FW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

[James Allison]

Actually, I have a copy of the pictures of the finger of which you type, and
they will be posted on my website within a week.  I am going to be a
distributor for the company that manufactures the bandages which promoted
the healing.  It's pretty awesome stuff!  The bandages that were used are
called "SILVERLON" and they are made for a company called "Argentum
Research, Inc." which is located in Lakemont, GA.  The inventor is Dr. A.B.
Flick M.D. and the contact for the bandages is Roger Sayles and last but not
least, their website is at http://www.silverlon.com

My main question is not of the miraculous healing, but of why the FDA has
approved the SILVERLON bandages, which work because they are 99% pure silver
and 1% silver oxide and yet the FDA supports the bashing of silver in it's
colloidal form.

On a side note, thank goodness we're finely getting back "on topic".

Yours in health,
James Allison

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- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 'Silver List' 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 3:25 PM
Subject: CS>FW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger)
darn.


> I thought your would all like to see this.
>
> What a great name for an MD, "Bart Flick".  Coulda been in MASH.
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Scudiere [SMTP:matth...@ispchannel.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 2:24 PM
> To: James Osbourne, Holmes
> Subject: Re: The man who regrew a hand.
>
> James,
> Well, it's a little exaggerated to say he regrew a hand.  It was the tip
of
> a finger between the last knuckle and the base of the fingernail.  It was
> done using silver bandages with a tiny electric current diffusing the
> silver into the wound along with various frequencies I believe.  It also
> followed the injury and was not after the wound had healed.
> The Trauma Surgeon who did it was Bart Flick in Ga just across the TN/GA
> border-I can't remember the town.   The last known email address I have
for
> him is (Bart Flick) .
> I hope this helps
> Matt
>
> At 01:48 PM 12/27/99 , you wrote:
> >Hello Matt Scudiere,
> >
> >Marshall Dudley  told me that you have information about such a case.
Can
> >you direct me to any details?
> >
> >Thanks for your attention,
> >
> >James Osbourne Holmes
> >a...@trail.com
> >
>


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CS>FW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

I thought your would all like to see this.

What a great name for an MD, "Bart Flick".  Coulda been in MASH.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Matt Scudiere [SMTP:matth...@ispchannel.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 2:24 PM
To: James Osbourne, Holmes
Subject:Re: The man who regrew a hand.

James,
Well, it's a little exaggerated to say he regrew a hand.  It was the tip of 
a finger between the last knuckle and the base of the fingernail.  It was 
done using silver bandages with a tiny electric current diffusing the 
silver into the wound along with various frequencies I believe.  It also 
followed the injury and was not after the wound had healed.
The Trauma Surgeon who did it was Bart Flick in Ga just across the TN/GA 
border-I can't remember the town.   The last known email address I have for 
him is (Bart Flick) .
I hope this helps
Matt

At 01:48 PM 12/27/99 , you wrote:
>Hello Matt Scudiere,
>
>Marshall Dudley  told me that you have information about such a case.  Can 
>you direct me to any details?
>
>Thanks for your attention,
>
>James Osbourne Holmes
>a...@trail.com
>
<>

CS>RE: Ancient Data Storage Media, was CS>Dowsing???? Way, way OT

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Well, yes, a good question.

But the cuneiform tablets are interesting to compare with paper and 
magnetic storage.  They really are hard to alter without tell-tale 
evidence, they are not affected by reasonable strength magnetic fields and 
radiation, don't fade or rot, and are still readable after 5K years.

How much of our current and past  data storage  media will be usable in the 
year 7000?

Interesting printer design problems though, sort of a hot clay linotype; 
instead of toner, you shovel in dirt, and the warm-up time is a killer. 
   Mail is a problem too...

But on the upside, it would really be impractical to store title 26 USC in 
cuneiform.   And you could drop your drivers license on the revenue agent's 
foot.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 1:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Dowsing

I have a hard time undertanding how a culture could have flying machines, 
yet
write on clay tablets.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
>
> According to Sitchen and others they certainly did.
>
> One of the clay documents he translated from the ancient Sumerian is
> obviously a license to operate a small flying machine.
> The alleged genetic manipulation of humans is stated very clearly.  But 
how
> can we know those documents were not a plant to conceal the real history?
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net]
> Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 12:02 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:RE: CS>Dowsing
>
>  << Message: RE: CS>Dowsing >> they knew about genes?
>
> Dennis
>
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Re: CS>Autoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!

[Nicole Fraser]

Thank you but Marsha was the one who told me about the list and I have been on 
CS for 3 months now I think? ;0) Great stuff! I sure feel worse so it must be 
killing it..I try to be patient though...

Nicole:O)

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:08:17 -0800 (PST), Nicole Fraser
wrote:

>Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking 
>itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like 
>that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? 

Several listers have had good luck combating Lyme with colloidal silver.
You'll probably be hearing from Marsha soon.
Go to the archives and search on Lyme for a lot of hints on dosage, etc.

Chuck
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly.
Specialization is for insects."
Robert Heinlein


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Re: CS>corpal tunnel

[Dick Jaffe]

Henley Healthcare has a cold laser device called the MicroLite 830 that will 
cure
CTS.  It was successfully tested over 3 years ago on a GM assembly line but the
%...@* FDA has been sitting on their hands because, in my opinion, they want to
prevent chiropractors and physical therapists from treating and curing an 
ailment
that will then put all those wrist surgeons out of business.  Interestingly, it
has been approved for veterinary use for years, so the dogs and horses can get
cured but we don't.  Maybe if you know a friendly vet, he will treat you.
Otherwise call Henley in Sugarland, Texas, and inquire if there is an FDA 
testing
protocol going on in your area.

Dick

Marshall Dudley wrote:

> I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT.  Said I
> would try and find out.  Anyone?
>
> Marshall
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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[CKing001]

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:01:52 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

>they knew about genes?
>
>Dennis

I think he meant "Jeans". Levi Strauss started the downfall of the civilized
world.
Chuck
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Make fun of his religion
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Re: CS>corpal tunnel

[CKing001]

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:34:21 -0500, Marshall Dudley 
wrote:

>I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT.  Said I
>would try and find out.  Anyone?
>
>Marshall
>

I came across a reference not too long ago about MSM giving relief for carpal.

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Re: CS>Autoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!

[erlash]

Hi Nicole,

I recently read an article that said that Chicken or Bovine Cartlidge can have
a modulating effect on Autoimmune Disease.  It might be worth a try, or of
further investigation.

Good Luck... Eric

At 11:08 AM 12/27/99 -0800, you wrote: 

>
> Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is
> attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or
> anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated
> maybe? 
>
> I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may
> help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make
> it slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of
> help? Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has
> helped? I am sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse,
and
> my body attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when
> it is just unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may
> help :0)
>
> Any thoughts???
>
> Nicole:O)
>
>
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CS>OT Animal Feed ......

[Ron Cuthbertson]

Hello List

In keeping with other recent non topic posts recently I forward the
following .

Ron

Date: 20/12/99 13:39

Greetings friends, associates, and acquaintances,

Please forgive the unsolicited mail, but I thought that
this communication would be of interest to you all.  At
least, it answers the question as to why the Soil
Association does not include provisions for composted GMO
contaminated materials in their standards.  Also, I consider
that the delete key is a quick and painless solution to
unwanted emails!

Take care all, and happy Xmas.

20 December, 1999

Dear XXX XX

UK MAFF investigated DNA fragmentation and found that GMO material would
need to be heated to 95C for at least 5 min in order to fragment the DNA
into sizes of less than 100bp - which would be enough to disrupt the
antibiotic resistance genes. But even this treatment would leave short
fragments of DNA which do retain some biological activity.  You simply
must try to ensure the material you compost is GMO free I'm afraid. MAFF
scientists have stated in their reports that GMO material must not be
used for silage, because DNA is not destroyed during composing and soil
micro-organisms can take it up and incorporate it - indeed, they do so
regularly.

The dispersal of naked GMO DNA in the environment is a major concern
here at ISIS and we are planning a number of papers about it next year.
Animal feed is a mess I agree and there is nothing easy about this awful
GMO situation for any sort of farmer.

I attach a critique on the UK MAFF study for your information.

Angela Ryan


The Institute of Science in Society

Critique of MAFF Report CS0116

"Effect of feed processing conditions on DNA fragmentation"

By Angela Ryan
Molecular Biologist, Open University   19th Nov 1999

Introduction

The purpose of this report was to determine the extent to which DNA is
fragmented in animal feed.  Animal feed is either fed raw or processed
under a variety of conditions in commercial mills.  The effect of
several methods of processing on the fragmentation of DNA in animal feed
was analysed.  DNA fragmentation in raw foodstuffs from a number of
commercial feeds and non-commercial feeds was also investigated.

This work set out to address concerns regarding the transfer of foreign
genes, especially antibiotic resistance genes introduced in GM crops, to
microbes rendering them antibiotic-resistant.  The report points to the
resurgence of tuberculosis as an example of the significant medical
problems that may come about from the transfer of such resistance to
micro-organisms and suggests transfer of resistance genes from GM crops
would exacerbate the problem of resistant strains of bacteria.

In order for gene transfer to occur, a gene would need to be complete
and therefore the DNA of which it is composed, stable and relatively
intact.  The report states that it is unlikely for transfer of such
genes from plant to microbe to be proved impossible.  It goes on:
"Therefore, if GM plants are to be licensed, it is necessary to know
what onditions are necessary in installations preparing animal feeds for
the prevention of gene transmission, i.e. sufficient disruption of DNA."
This report describes the results of a Pilot Study commissioned from
Leeds University by MAFF.  The study is on a small scale, has limited
resources and has been performed on non-GM material.  Nevertheless, the
results give every indication that further studies are needed, which the
scientists concerned were ready to undertake and were expecting further
funding for from MAFF.

Experimental Details
Processing Specifications
Three major UK animal feed companies were involved with this study,
providing advice on processing specifications and a range of animal feed
samples.  Ranges of laboratory treatments were carried out to determine
the conditions required during processing to sufficiently disrupt the
DNA. Wheat samples were subjected to mechanical grinding and milling at
different grist sizes in the laboratory.  The processing of oil seed
samples did not receive the closely monitored processing conditions
initially required by the project - processed oil samples were supplied
by the industry.

Samples
Samples of animal feed ingredients were obtained from the collaborating
companies and include:  Oil seeds, before and after oil extraction by
expulsion and compression; Wheat grains of the variety Riband subjected
to heating both dry and moist, at a range of temperatures and pressures
and for a range of durations. Smaller samples of 20 varieties of wheat
were subject to proximate analysis and five of these varieties were
subjected to dry heat treatment at 93 degrees centigrade;  Fresh maize
leaves and maize silage, from the University Farm; fresh maize cobs and
maize grains from the local supermarket; Maize gluten and flaked maize;
Fresh wet sugar beet and dried sugar beet pulp; Fresh ryegrass and rye
silage.

Experimental Protocol
DNA was extracted from the variety of animal feed 

Re: CS>carpal tunnel

[Debbie McDonald]

I have these type symptoms and have read that this can be caused by
candida in the muscles. It seems to fit my case, I got worse when I
started taking anti candida meds, not sticking to the diet religiously
and not rotating the meds(over the counter health food store, not
prescription). If I eat sugar, it most definately gets worse. This
would explain the large numbers of people that have the surgery and
get no relief!!!:), just like lower back pain can be leaky gut.Deb


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Re: CS>Autoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!

[CKing001]

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:08:17 -0800 (PST), Nicole Fraser
 wrote:

>Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking 
>itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like 
>that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? 

Several listers have had good luck combating Lyme with colloidal silver.
You'll probably be hearing from Marsha soon.
Go to the archives and search on Lyme for a lot of hints on dosage, etc.

Chuck
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
 invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
 a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
 the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
 solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
 a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
 gallantly.
 Specialization is for insects."
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CS>Baptists and altered time...

[Vilik Rapheles]

At 02:42 PM 12/27/99 -0600, you wrote:
>--snip--
> I come
>> from 400 years of Baptist ministers - literally - the first one being the
>> first governor of South Carolina; 
>  --snip--
~~~
>South Carolina was established as a
>Royal Province in 1729 by Charles II. Thats only 270 years ago.
>South Carolina became a state with a governor in 1788. Thats only 211
>years ago. :-)
~~~

I guess time drags when you're a Baptist...

~^^V^^~

Our lives are frittered away by detail. Simplify. Simplify.
  Thoreau

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Re: CS>New Scars On Face

[CKing001]

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:28:30 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

>regrew a hand?
>whenwherehow?
>documented?
>
>Dennis

Why not? When I was 13, I grew another foot
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Re: CS>carpal tunnel

[James Allison]

MSM is supposed to help with candida as well.

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To: 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: CS>carpal tunnel


> I have these type symptoms and have read that this can be caused by
> candida in the muscles. It seems to fit my case, I got worse when I
> started taking anti candida meds, not sticking to the diet religiously
> and not rotating the meds(over the counter health food store, not
> prescription). If I eat sugar, it most definately gets worse. This
> would explain the large numbers of people that have the surgery and
> get no relief!!!:), just like lower back pain can be leaky gut.Deb
> 
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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Marshall Dudley]

I have a hard time undertanding how a culture could have flying machines, yet
write on clay tablets.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
>
> According to Sitchen and others they certainly did.
>
> One of the clay documents he translated from the ancient Sumerian is
> obviously a license to operate a small flying machine.
> The alleged genetic manipulation of humans is stated very clearly.  But how
> can we know those documents were not a plant to conceal the real history?
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net]
> Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 12:02 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:RE: CS>Dowsing
>
>  << Message: RE: CS>Dowsing >> they knew about genes?
>
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Re: CS>Dowsing - definition - thanks

[Tai-Pan]

--snip--
 I come
> from 400 years of Baptist ministers - literally - the first one being the
> first governor of South Carolina; 
  --snip--

 Hello gullible ones,

Amazing and astounding, 400 years: South Carolina was established as a
Royal Province in 1729 by Charles II. Thats only 270 years ago.

 South Carolina became a state with a governor in 1788. Thats only 211
years ago. :-)

 Its a sin to tell fibs you know. I teach my kids not to lie.

 I will refrain from making comments about the believablity of baptists,
cause I used to be one, but not anymore.

  Bless you  Bob Lee
-- 
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RE: CS>Dowsing????

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Hi Dennis,

According to Sitchen and others they certainly did.

One of the clay documents he translated from the ancient Sumerian is 
obviously a license to operate a small flying machine.
The alleged genetic manipulation of humans is stated very clearly.  But how 
can we know those documents were not a plant to conceal the real history?


James Osbourne Holmes
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:RE: CS>Dowsing

 << Message: RE: CS>Dowsing >> they knew about genes?

Dennis



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Re: CS>corpal tunnel

[Vilik Rapheles]

At 03:34 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT.  Said I
>would try and find out.  Anyone?
>
>Marshall
>
>Two thoughts...one is supplements...there is a regime that includes B6 as
a key player...

And I knew a massage therapist who learned a technique...simple...but
can't really describe...put elbow on something...bend wrist back...
stroke deeply muscles of inner forearm and stretch...

She said 90% of CT clears up...

have you checked net?


~^^V^^~



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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Vilik Rapheles]

At 03:49 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a hard time undertanding how a culture could have flying machines, yet
>write on clay tablets.
>
>Marshall
>~


Maybe they flew in clay planes too...

~^^V^^~

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Re: CS>corpal tunnel

[hughman1]

In the book "The Miracle of MSM: The Natural Solution for Pain" by Stanley
W. Jacob M.D. and Ronald M. Lawrence, M.D., Ph.D. , there is a chapter
concerned with the treatment of carpal tunnel with MSM.
Hugh
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From: "Vilik Rapheles" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>corpal tunnel


> At 03:34 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT.
Said I
> >would try and find out.  Anyone?
> >
> >Marshall
> >
> >Two thoughts...one is supplements...there is a regime that includes B6 as
> a key player...
>
> And I knew a massage therapist who learned a technique...simple...but
> can't really describe...put elbow on something...bend wrist back...
> stroke deeply muscles of inner forearm and stretch...
>
> She said 90% of CT clears up...
>
> have you checked net?
>
>
> ~^^V^^~
>
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Re: CS>Gout

[Vilik Rapheles]

At 01:12 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I have been reading the book "biological transmtations".  I had no idea that
>there was so much proof that life can so easily convert elements to other
>elements.  It turns out that the body converts sodium to potassium when you
>are getting into hyperthermia, so maybe there is a biological basis to a
sweat
>lodge after all other than sweating out the toxins.
>
>Marshall
>~~
You mean...a tablespoon of blackstrap molasses and a banana, and I don't have
to sweat? 

~^^V^^~
>


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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Scharbach]

You're doing fine Nicole.   *I* understood totally what you meant.   God does 
give some very implicit
directions regarding certain things, and sometimes it is hard to tell what 
would be acceptable, and what
is teetering on the edge.

An interesting line of thought I have been having lately.   The first man 
created, Adam, was perfect in every
way, but fell into degeneration and sin.   Jesus was called the "Second Adam" 
also perfect in every way.
We were created in God's image.   If, indeed the world, (and man) has been 
degenerating, it is possible
that we had a far greater capacity than we use now.   What is it they say?   We 
use only 10 % of our 
brain?DId the "1st Adam" use his whole brain, and did Jesus, and is that in 
part why he was able to
heal, to understand peoples thoughts, etc. etc.?

Blah, blah, blah.   I just wanted to encourage you that, no, thinking things 
through in your own way, certainly
does not make you ignorant at all.  

((hugs))

Sparrow
I did not close my eyes, I just wanted more information.

I think I have been VERY open minded. I did not make my dicision UNTIL I 
found more information from you all! I did not go to this woman and just tell 
her, oh you are a witch and I will not be a par tof this! LOL I thought she was 
JUST an herbalist, but when it seemed different than that I had to, and DID 
make up my OWN mind..I am not blinded or ignorant by my religious views and I 
respect all of your oppinions and appreciate you doing the same:0). Just 
because I do not believe it is for me, or something I would recamend doesn't 
mean I am IGNORANT because I want to follow the bible and God I do not think. 
People who don't feel like that about God and religion can't possible 
understand. :0( So I am worn out from all this! I hope NOW I have made myself 
clear in what I am trying to say? And honestly I found everyones perspectives 
interesting to say the least..;0) Thank you all for your oppinions!

Nicole:O)

CS>corpal tunnel

[Marshall Dudley]

I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT.  Said I
would try and find out.  Anyone?

Marshall


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CS>Another hand? Talking to Matt...

[Vilik Rapheles]

At 01:31 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Write to matth...@ispchannel.com (Matt Scudiere).  He knows the researcher
who was involved in this
>research.  Unfortunately the man cut the other hand off within a year.
Not sure what his problem
>was.  Maybe he had insurance that paid for cutting off a hand or
something, or maybe it was karmic,
>or just plain carlessness.
>
>Marshall
>~
Did he regrow the other hand?

Would one person be willing to write to Matt and forward the info to the
list, so he isn't deluged? Volunteers?

~^^V^^~



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CS>New hand? new head?

[Vilik Rapheles]

 I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
>silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
>the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical
to the
>old hand. 

~~~
My god marshall...do tell! Please give the details! This is fantastic.

~^^V^^~


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Re: CS>New Scars On Face

[Vilik Rapheles]

At 11:31 AM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Aloe vera gel with CS.  Don't forget to mix in the CS, very important.
The Aloe
>Vera supplies nutrients to the tissue while blood is cut off so it doesn't
die and
>has a number of healing agents in it.  The CS prevents infection, and
allows injured
>cells to revert back to juvinile cells so that they can form the proper
cells,
>thereby eliminating scar tissue.  There is much synergy between the two so
that the
>whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
>
>Marshall
>~~~
Thanks marshall. And emu oil is the most deeply penetrating oil, and anti
bacterial. I think a treatment  of silver, aloe, CS, E, rosa mesquita and
emu oils, and comfrey, would cover all bases. 

Good emu oil...High Cascade...800-814-EMUS.

~^^V^^~




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CS>Salt...surprise! Deb and Lew...

[Vilik Rapheles]

No salt restriction, in fact, I tested LOW on salt, doc said he had
never seen anyone that was deficient in salt:). Deb

~~
I know a homeopath who believes we are all salt (real salt...food sodium)
deficient. Also was just reading Bernard Jenson...he believes the
body esp the stomach needs salt...complex theory. He recommends
Capra goat whey, which has lots of sodium and potassium. Braggs
amino acids (a liquid that goes on food) is tasty and very high in
food sodium. 

Food sodium is apparently quite different than table salt.

Homeopathically, salt is nat/mur (I think...help me here, Lew...)
If you are salt deficient, you could try 3 or 6 x, 3 times a day...
couln't hurt...(Lew...what do you think?)

The sea salts which are naturally extracted...Celtic salt and others...
(NOT the stuff in boxes that says sea salt...) are also supposed
to me helpful.

There was a theory going around that CFIDS was a salt-deficient
disease. I tried Celtic salt, but no change. With a number of
current changes, however, which including going back on the sea
salt and adding Braggs, I am feeling better. I have just added
in Capra goat whey, which is also great for the intestines...
brings about a pH that is conducive to good flora...and also
alkalizes the blood. It is in general a rich source of easily
digested minerals.

I used to crave salt...since making these changes I don't.

~^^V^^~

When you are deluded and full of doubt, even a thousand
books of scripture are not enough. When you have understanding,
even one word is too much.

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RE: CS>Dowsing????

[D G]

they knew about genes?

Dennis

--- Begin Message ---
Hi Folks,

That is very probably true.  Lawrence Gardner's research says that the 
original meaning of the word which has come down to us from the very 
distant past as "sin", originally meant "genetic defect".

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Nicole Fraser [SMTP:on_ne_change_...@yahoo.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 11:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Dowsing

 << File: ATT00016.html >>
I believe it simply means that if the world was without sin, then we would 
have no disease.>>

I am sorry, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with that 
statement? but I would have to agree with that completely! :0)

Nicole:O)







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RE: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Hi Marshall, 

Yes, "Articles" is void at present.   In error---oh, no---I did not give the 
URL for the home page. 

Try this:

http://antishyster.com/

then, Free Magazines.

He is slowly placing all which has been published, starting sometime in 1990, 
on the site.  

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 10:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]

It appears that all his articles and publications have been removed, I get
directory not found when I try to view the index of them.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

> http://antishyster.com/articles.htm
>
> Generally, a very excellent print publication. Much to boggle the mind
> about history, law, and politics.  Alfred is careful to identify
> speculation.
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America
> [SMTP:jdkl...@netzero.net]
> Sent:   Friday, December 24, 1999 6:07 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:Re: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]
>
> do you have antishyster's website?
>
> jd
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
> To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' 
> Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:25 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]
>
> >Remember the flap about the "terrorist" Larry Wayne Harris, who was busted
> >by the FBI in AZ for having anthrax in his possession?
> >
> >He is a registered professional microbiologist and was testing both CS and
> >the Rife generator for efficacy against anthrax.  I think he said it
> works,
> >but he recommends that you be on a maintenance dose before
> >exposure/inoculation.
> >
> >Somewhere there is a book he published about  just plain folks dealing
> with
> >biowar.  It was advertised in "AnitShyster", which has a web site.
> >
> >James Osbourne Holmes
> >a...@trail.com
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Roman [SMTP:r_ro...@usa.net]
> >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 12:26 PM
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]
> >
> >Does it really kill anthrax? Does anybody know for sure? If so, what
> should
> >be
> >the regimen? And how strong should CS be?
> >
> >Roman
> >
> >
> >Marshall Dudley  wrote:
> >> Discussing the biological attack on New York this news site states:
> >>
> >> One colloidal silver generator can make enough silver for dozens of
> >> families. And
> >>  colloidal silver, for those of you who don't know, kills anthrax.
> >>
> >> http://www.y2knewswire.com/19991018.asp
> >>
> >> If you want it, grab it, they update every day or two and then articles
> >> cannot be retreived unless you subscribe to their service.
> >>
> >> marshall
> >>
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RE: CS>Dowsing????

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Hi Folks,

That is very probably true.  Lawrence Gardner's research says that the 
original meaning of the word which has come down to us from the very 
distant past as "sin", originally meant "genetic defect".

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Nicole Fraser [SMTP:on_ne_change_...@yahoo.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 11:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Dowsing

 << File: ATT00016.html >>
I believe it simply means that if the world was without sin, then we would 
have no disease.>>

I am sorry, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with that 
statement? but I would have to agree with that completely! :0)

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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Nicole Fraser]

Well, in answer to Any's question. I cannot ask him to understand because as 
someone said he was not raised with the same beliefs as me. I did not mean to 
offend. All I meant was God has said he does not want us to open doors like to 
"divining" etc.. so these are indeed MY personal beliefs, so I do not wish to 
get into dowsing if I thought that it follows the line of this. All I meant was 
that simply. You can say it has to with energies, but I do not want to be aware 
of "another" sense if I should not and God doesn't want me too. (I am sorry but 
my brain is very foggy and I have been trying VERY hard to make myself clear, 
but I seem to find the wrong words:0( ) if I feel this is more than common 
sense that God gives us like, oh I do not like this person,..or oh I feel sick 
from eating this, or I am doing the wrong thing..then I don't want to be apart 
of something God did not already give me. Like intuition maybe I am trying to 
say? And if it tells me not to do this then I will!
 listen! ;0)

I DO agree with trying to be more in touch with your body in a WAY..like me I 
never listen to it when it tells me to REST..SIMPLE things like this, but I 
know there are OTHER methods of this that are not dowsing, like relaxing 
techniques..and things.

I believe in this time of age..as not to get into talking about religion (as 
have I have tried to be blunt and not talk much,) that we have to be careful as 
the Devil can be as convincing and fool us into thinking things are from"GOD", 
because they seem to be the answer to our prayers, when in fact they are 
not...that is all:0).

 If people believe that dowsing is fine, well I am not trying to change your 
mind. "I" cannot say I have a good feeling about it. But I DON'T want people 
accusing me of not being open to things just because I am a religious person! 
THAT is just ignorance! I would not have come here and asked this question if I 
did not feel I could be wrong about itI did not close my eyes, I just 
wanted more information.

I think I have been VERY open minded. I did not make my dicision UNTIL I found 
more information from you all! I did not go to this woman and just tell her, oh 
you are a witch and I will not be a par tof this! LOL I thought she was JUST an 
herbalist, but when it seemed different than that I had to, and DID make up my 
OWN mind..I am not blinded or ignorant by my religious views and I respect all 
of your oppinions and appreciate you doing the same:0). Just because I do not 
believe it is for me, or something I would recamend doesn't mean I am IGNORANT 
because I want to follow the bible and God I do not think. People who don't 
feel like that about God and religion can't possible understand. :0( So I am 
worn out from all this! I hope NOW I have made myself clear in what I am trying 
to say? And honestly I found everyones perspectives interesting to say the 
least..;0) Thank you all for your oppinions!

Nicole:O)

Marshall Dudley  wrote:
Making sure you do not open the wrong door is important. That is why one always
asks for protection from God before doing a healing or dowsing. THAT assures
that you will not open the wrong door, for if you ask God to prevent it, he 
will.

Marshall

ascottx...@aol.com wrote:

> From: Nicole Fraser 
>
> "Well, I don't think that has to do with ignorance at all! I am QUITE open
> minded in fact, or I would not have asked this list.. In answer to
> your question I refuse to open a door that the bible says to stay away
> from and keep CLOSED.. I would not like to even PEEK inside because God has
> reason for that and I don't think I need to explain. I think I found my
> answer from a private response...the door is now CLOSED! ;0/ I don't mean to
> offend but I do not think I am the ignorant one hereI pity that:0( 
>
> Nicole:O)"
>
> Hi Nicole,
>
> Perhaps I am "the ignorant one here" I don't understand what "door" you are
> talking about. Could you please elaborate on that?
>
> My thoughts are that if God didn't want us to open doors he wouldn't have
> given us brains and an opposing thumb.
>
> Best wishes,
> Andy (^_^)
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CS>Autoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!

[Nicole Fraser]

Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking 
itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like 
that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? 

I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may 
help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make it 
slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of help? 
Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has helped? I am 
sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse, and my body 
attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when it is just 
unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may help :0)

Any thoughts???

Nicole:O)


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Re: CS>anthrax/terrorist [OT]

[tgw0]

For those who are wondering how effective CS can be against virus, read
Dr. Len Horowitz Emerging Viruses. If he is correct in his statements
about Aids, Ebola and Vaccinations, you will soon get your chance to
find out.

Ted

Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> Quite possibly, but it is my understanding that CS is effective.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote:
> 
> > ? ?Has anyone heard anything more about the anthrax threat.? Someone
> > claiming to be an undercover intelligence operative posted warnings
> > about a terrorist plot to hit the major population centers with
> > infectious biohazards.? I was wondering if anyone has more
> > information.? I can not remember if it was this list or the silver
> > list.? Since we are approaching the New Year, I would appreciate any
> > information that would enable me to protect my family, friends, and
> > neighbors.?Does anyone know whether the zappers (Hulda Clark
> > frequencies) would be useful for immuno defense against
> > anthrax??thanks,,?JD??ps.? if anyone wants to write me personally
> > for security reasons, I will maintain confidence.??
> 
> ?


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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[tgw0]

Remember the good book was written and revised by men and therefore
subject to their interpatations. Trust your own institutions they come
from the universe and you will find they are correct.

Ted


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RE: CS>New Scars On Face

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Hello All,

Marshall, can you give us any details on the "new hand' case?   That sounds 
really wild.  

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 10:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>New Scars On Face

Silver causes injured cells to revert back to stem cells, which can then become
anything they need to be.  If you have a gaping wound then it will fill with
blood, which if you have silver ions available will convert to juvinile or stem
cells, which then become whatever you need to heal totally and completely
without scaring.  I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical to the
old hand.  Theoratically the hand will be young, so it is possible that when the
person is very old, that regrown hand will still look like it is a young
adult's.

Unfortunately scar tissue will not rejuvinate.  I have read that to remove a
scar, it has to be physically removed, then the silver ions applied to the
wound, and it will then heal without scar tissue.

Marshall

Marshall

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:04:53 -0600, "Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
> North America"  wrote:
>
> >a piece of silver would work better.  i have seen dramatic pictures of
> >silver cloth bandages on a forehead trauma.  Silver speeds up the healing
> >and reduces scarring.
> >
> >jd
>
> Yow,
> Now we're back on topic!
> How'd that happen?
> Chuck
> Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the
> roof and gets stuck
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Re: CS>New Scars On Face

[Marshall Dudley]

Write to matth...@ispchannel.com (Matt Scudiere).  He knows the researcher who 
was involved in this
research.  Unfortunately the man cut the other hand off within a year.  Not 
sure what his problem
was.  Maybe he had insurance that paid for cutting off a hand or something, or 
maybe it was karmic,
or just plain carlessness.

Marshall

D G wrote:

> regrew a hand?
> whenwherehow?
> documented?
>
> Dennis
>
>   
>
> Subject: Re: CS>New Scars On Face
> Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:25:10 -0800
> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:21:02 -0500
> From: Marshall Dudley 
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> References: <000401bf4fed$3f7c08c0$3aae1...@compaq> 
> <5f6d6s8a6rhatv1cmdccahbvbmu1vu1...@4ax.com>
>
> Silver causes injured cells to revert back to stem cells, which can then 
> become
> anything they need to be.  If you have a gaping wound then it will fill with
> blood, which if you have silver ions available will convert to juvinile or 
> stem
> cells, which then become whatever you need to heal totally and completely
> without scaring.  I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
> silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
> the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical to 
> the
> old hand.  Theoratically the hand will be young, so it is possible that when 
> the
> person is very old, that regrown hand will still look like it is a young
> adult's.
>
> Unfortunately scar tissue will not rejuvinate.  I have read that to remove a
> scar, it has to be physically removed, then the silver ions applied to the
> wound, and it will then heal without scar tissue.
>
> Marshall
>
> Marshall
>
> cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:04:53 -0600, "Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
> > North America"  wrote:
> >
> > >a piece of silver would work better.  i have seen dramatic pictures of
> > >silver cloth bandages on a forehead trauma.  Silver speeds up the healing
> > >and reduces scarring.
> > >
> > >jd
> >
> > Yow,
> > Now we're back on topic!
> > How'd that happen?
> > Chuck
> > Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the
> > roof and gets stuck
> >
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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Nicole Fraser]

I believe it simply means that if the world was without sin, then we would have 
no disease.>>

I am sorry, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with that 
statement? but I would have to agree with that completely! :0)

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Re: CS>New Scars On Face

[D G]

regrew a hand?
whenwherehow?
documented?

Dennis

--- Begin Message ---
Silver causes injured cells to revert back to stem cells, which can then become
anything they need to be.  If you have a gaping wound then it will fill with
blood, which if you have silver ions available will convert to juvinile or stem
cells, which then become whatever you need to heal totally and completely
without scaring.  I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical to the
old hand.  Theoratically the hand will be young, so it is possible that when the
person is very old, that regrown hand will still look like it is a young
adult's.

Unfortunately scar tissue will not rejuvinate.  I have read that to remove a
scar, it has to be physically removed, then the silver ions applied to the
wound, and it will then heal without scar tissue.

Marshall

Marshall

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:04:53 -0600, "Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
> North America"  wrote:
>
> >a piece of silver would work better.  i have seen dramatic pictures of
> >silver cloth bandages on a forehead trauma.  Silver speeds up the healing
> >and reduces scarring.
> >
> >jd
>
> Yow,
> Now we're back on topic!
> How'd that happen?
> Chuck
> Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the
> roof and gets stuck
>
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--- End Message ---

Re: CS>Gout

[Marshall Dudley]

I have been reading the book "biological transmtations".  I had no idea that
there was so much proof that life can so easily convert elements to other
elements.  It turns out that the body converts sodium to potassium when you
are getting into hyperthermia, so maybe there is a biological basis to a sweat
lodge after all other than sweating out the toxins.

Marshall

D G wrote:

> yes it is
> h
>
> Dennis
>
>   
>
> Subject: RE: CS>Gout
> Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:55:20 -0800
> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:18:06 -0800
> From: Vilik Rapheles 
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> References: <001c01bf4f94$10054c40$13a93...@ivan>
>
> At 08:01 PM 12/26/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >I am continually amazed at this list. Every cure must be purchased. Like
> >nutrition cures nothing, but a supplement can and will cure anything.
> >It's a wonder we lived long enough to populate the earth without
> >supplements.
> >
> >
> >Robert
> >~~
> Ah com'on Robert...this is the list where people make silver!
>
> Nutrition...high potassium foods include black strap molasses, potatoes,
> tomato or V8 juice, bananas
>
> http://www.Krispin.com/index.htp
>
> Good info on potassium and potassium rich foods. [note: the body cannot
> hold onto or utilize potassium without magnesium]
>
> There is a herbal supplement on the net specific to gout...search
> for it...(don't have info any more...)
>
> ~^^V^^~
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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Marshall Dudley]

Nicole Fraser wrote:

> Thank you..well, I think you may be right to a certain degree, but
> this PARTICULAR one seems a little different! ;0/ I mean I don't think
> that telling me what things are bad for me(supplements) over the phone
> by pointing, EXACTLY how LONG it will take for me to get well(the one
> that seemed the most peculiar), or what is wrong with a pet over the
> phone says she can do JUST by the energies from the rod she had? That
> doesn't make sense..she seems to have gone a little TOO far into it I
> think. And as much as I want to get well I don't think I can pursue
> this if I feel when she is doing more when she says she has a
> "gift";0/. BUT I am interested in kinesiology:0) I will pursue
> more info on that. I will just have to take another road to get back
> to

It is all a matter of termnology.  All is energy is no different than
saying that all is God, it is simply two different ways of expressing
the same thing.  Since all is God then all information is available to
all, if it is good and right for you to have it.  Saying whether
something is from the higher self, or is psychic, or God is nothing but
putting divisions where in reality there are none.  Simply say it is
from what you feel comfortable with, and go with it.

Marshall

Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Marshall Dudley]

Making sure you do not open the wrong door is important. That is why one always
asks for protection from God before doing a healing or dowsing.  THAT assures
that you will not open the wrong door, for if you ask God to prevent it, he 
will.

Marshall

ascottx...@aol.com wrote:

>   From: Nicole Fraser 
>
>  "Well, I don't think that has to do with ignorance at all! I am QUITE open
> minded in  fact, or I would not have asked this list.. In answer to
> your question I refuse to open a   door that the bible says to stay away
> from and keep CLOSED.. I would not like to even PEEK inside because God has
> reason for that and I don't think I need to explain. I think I found my
> answer from a private response...the door is now CLOSED! ;0/ I don't mean to
> offend but I do not think I am the ignorant one hereI   pity that:0( 
>
>  Nicole:O)"
>
> Hi Nicole,
>
> Perhaps I am "the ignorant one here" I don't understand what "door" you are
> talking about. Could you please elaborate on that?
>
> My thoughts are that if God didn't want us to open doors he wouldn't have
> given us brains and an opposing thumb.
>
> Best wishes,
> Andy (^_^)
>
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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Marshall Dudley]

Odessa Lewis wrote:

> Nicole,
> All healings comes from God. There is not
> such as God that wants you to be sick, this
> is a concept in the mind of man. If would be
> so that we would have a very small and limi-
> ted God.

The inverse is that sickness is from sin, which I have heard before.  I feel
that is partly true, but also I beleive that it is often from a persons
distorted reality and belief system.  For instance, "I got exposed to a cold
so now I will catch it (ok says the body), or my mother died from a heart
attack so I will also (ok says the body)".  Also many diseases appear to
have been created by man (ie. AIDS), which would certainly be a sin of
giganic proportions, so saying that all sickness is from sin, does not
necessarily mean that it is from the sin of the person who got it. I believe
it simply means that if the world was without sin, then we would have no
disease.

Marshall


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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Marshall Dudley]

If something is good and has no strings attached, then you should be
able to assume it is from God.  If there are strings attached then be
careful.

Pray for healing and it occurs:  God.
Ask for healing and it occurs:  God
Have someone lay on hand and get healed: God
Use a rod to overcome your 5 senses and ask what to do to be healed and
get good answers: God

Ask a person (whether a psychic, priest, or entity) to be healed, and
they demand that you do something, such as take an oath, make a
uncomfortable affirmation, join an organization, sell your soul or
something: be very very wary.  Likely this is not of God (except in the
broad sense that God is everything).  It is likely from a separation
from God (devil or otherwise).

Marshall

Nicole Fraser wrote:

>
>
> Dennis Lipter  wrote:
>
>  I think you are asking the wrong question. You should be
>  asking "does it
>  work?" Not "how does it work?"
>
>  Dennis Lipter
>
>  LOL Well, if there are things involved that I don't want to
>  be a part of and are sinful to God.. I think then it is best
>  to stay away from it..;0) If GOD is not the one involved in
>  the healing then I would rather be sick. I am sure others
>  may disagree? especially those who do not believe in God
>  right? ;0/ But I am sure most of those who do agree with
>  me...I don't know your beliefs so it may sound childish to
>  you, but to me it is far from that...
>
>  Nicole:O)
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Re: CS>New Scars On Face

[Marshall Dudley]

Silver causes injured cells to revert back to stem cells, which can then become
anything they need to be.  If you have a gaping wound then it will fill with
blood, which if you have silver ions available will convert to juvinile or stem
cells, which then become whatever you need to heal totally and completely
without scaring.  I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical to the
old hand.  Theoratically the hand will be young, so it is possible that when the
person is very old, that regrown hand will still look like it is a young
adult's.

Unfortunately scar tissue will not rejuvinate.  I have read that to remove a
scar, it has to be physically removed, then the silver ions applied to the
wound, and it will then heal without scar tissue.

Marshall

Marshall

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:04:53 -0600, "Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
> North America"  wrote:
>
> >a piece of silver would work better.  i have seen dramatic pictures of
> >silver cloth bandages on a forehead trauma.  Silver speeds up the healing
> >and reduces scarring.
> >
> >jd
>
> Yow,
> Now we're back on topic!
> How'd that happen?
> Chuck
> Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the
> roof and gets stuck
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Re: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]

[Marshall Dudley]

It appears that all his articles and publications have been removed, I get
directory not found when I try to view the index of them.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

> http://antishyster.com/articles.htm
>
> Generally, a very excellent print publication. Much to boggle the mind
> about history, law, and politics.  Alfred is careful to identify
> speculation.
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America
> [SMTP:jdkl...@netzero.net]
> Sent:   Friday, December 24, 1999 6:07 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:Re: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]
>
> do you have antishyster's website?
>
> jd
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
> To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' 
> Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:25 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]
>
> >Remember the flap about the "terrorist" Larry Wayne Harris, who was busted
> >by the FBI in AZ for having anthrax in his possession?
> >
> >He is a registered professional microbiologist and was testing both CS and
> >the Rife generator for efficacy against anthrax.  I think he said it
> works,
> >but he recommends that you be on a maintenance dose before
> >exposure/inoculation.
> >
> >Somewhere there is a book he published about  just plain folks dealing
> with
> >biowar.  It was advertised in "AnitShyster", which has a web site.
> >
> >James Osbourne Holmes
> >a...@trail.com
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Roman [SMTP:r_ro...@usa.net]
> >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 12:26 PM
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject: CS>Re: [CS kill anthrax]
> >
> >Does it really kill anthrax? Does anybody know for sure? If so, what
> should
> >be
> >the regimen? And how strong should CS be?
> >
> >Roman
> >
> >
> >Marshall Dudley  wrote:
> >> Discussing the biological attack on New York this news site states:
> >>
> >> One colloidal silver generator can make enough silver for dozens of
> >> families. And
> >>  colloidal silver, for those of you who don't know, kills anthrax.
> >>
> >> http://www.y2knewswire.com/19991018.asp
> >>
> >> If you want it, grab it, they update every day or two and then articles
> >> cannot be retreived unless you subscribe to their service.
> >>
> >> marshall
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CS>Re: Potassium Iodine

[Nancy Steele]

Thanks to all for the confirmation that making your own Potassium Iodine is a 
bad idea.  To explain just a little.  It came from an article that I had 
thought was good because I thought I knew who the author was.  I hadn't looked 
into it a lot since I was so busy with other research.  My origional thought 
was that it would be good for many people who wouldn't get ready for an 
emergency beforhand since we live in a very rural farming type community.  
Anyway I could have made a very bad mistake that would have been hard to live 
with by giving them bad advice and I just want you all to know that I'm 
grateful for your input.  Thanks Nancy

Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Marshall Dudley]

Nicole Fraser wrote:

> Hello all and Merry Christmas!!! :0)
>
> I just had a question. Does anyone know ANYTHING about dowsers?? I
> went to one and she said that all she has done was gone further in
> learning about herbs and things...but I find it weird that she can
> tell me how long it will take me to get well and things like my sister
> has a virus in her heart and things very in depth in our bodies like
> that(my sister was there too..and got "dowsed"? too) I am quite
> religious..so it is weird and if doing this is anything like being
> phycic I want to stay CLEAR of it...it may sound like a dumb question?
> She said she can train people how to do it with the metal stick you
> know? Maybe it is similar to Chinese medicine??? :0)

If you consider a connecting with the Creater and higher self, and
feeling weak energies psychic (which it is since all information is
energy psychic or not), then yes could be construed as psychic. Dowsing
allows you to connect with your higher self (soul) which has much
information (it can communicate with God and so forth) not available to
the 5 senses. Being religious should not make you not want to
communicate with your higher self and God, but I do know that churches
teach do often this.  I will not go into why, as we are not suppose to
get into religious matters here.  Lets just say that religions tend to
not want you to find out anything for yourself, but if you are really
trying to spiritual (of spirit), instead of religious (of man), then
these things are very a very improtant soiurce of information.  If you
have a vision or just know that there is danger and avoid it, this is
the same source and psychic.  I would not ignore a "feeling" of danger
just because the church indicates that you should do so.  "Feeling" of
dangers have prevented serious injury or death to almost every member of
my family at on time or another.


> I understand it has to do with energies and that makes sense...but it
> is a bit weird and I am trying to find more info on it before I can
> judge!!! Is it true that it is just your energies coming off you?
> Well, if ANYONE has any info I'd appreciate it VERY much I am
> QUITE curious about "dowsing"..I mean she said she even does
> appointments on the phone and can tell you what is wrong and what you
> need to take..that seems spooky to me!! I hope someone can explain
> this to me??

It is only wierd if you by into the concept that all there is can be
sensed by the 5 senses.  The use of an innate sense other than the 5
should not be considered weird.  Anyone can do it if they so wish.

Marshall

Re: CS>New Scars On Face

[Marshall Dudley]

Aloe vera gel with CS.  Don't forget to mix in the CS, very important.  The Aloe
Vera supplies nutrients to the tissue while blood is cut off so it doesn't die 
and
has a number of healing agents in it.  The CS prevents infection, and allows 
injured
cells to revert back to juvinile cells so that they can form the proper cells,
thereby eliminating scar tissue.  There is much synergy between the two so that 
the
whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

Marshall

June Narber Harrison wrote:

> Hi.
> I would suggest using pure aloe vera gel now; and once it has started to heal,
> alternate between
> this aloe vera and a high i.u of Vitamin e oil.
> June
>
> 2001 TV VCR wrote:
>
> > I had an accident last night and have
> > some bad cuts on my face.  I would
> > like to find something that will prevent
> > any scars from forming.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Bret
> >
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>
> Before you call a woman a feminist, maybe you should look in
> the mirror and ask yourself if you are a sexist. Words may
> appear to fit, but look twice before you label people, because as you
> label people, you are really labeling yourself.
> (Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks)
>
> What does it say about the individual who can always try to
> control others, yet cannot seem to manage or to make their own life better?
>
> Health is not just about being disease free; it is about having a peaceful 
> inner
>
> mind and a calm-quiet countenance that is with you all day long. Take time to
> breathe properly, sit up straight, stretch out every day to balance the body's
> energy
> fields.
>
> Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are
> great because of their passion-Martha Graham
>
> Genesis clearly tells us we are to be stewards of the Earth.
> Does that not technically make us biblical environmentalists?
> If so, we should be working to protect wildlife and natural lands
> from pollution, and over-development.
>
> Be the change you want to see in the world.-Ghandi
>
> Reality is not always what is perceived by the senses, it is what
> is perceived by the heart.
>
> I am not religious...I am spiritual. I bow down to no human created
> religion. I follow only the invisible God, known as the GREAT CREATOR.
> So, what are you?
>
> STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. Do not allow anyone to live your life for you.
> Follow your heart, listen to you mind and reason, and ask God to lead you
> in your path. JNH
>
> Husbands, have you told your wife today how beautiful she is to you?
> When was the last time you brought your wife home roses?
> Wives, have you told your husband how much you love him today?
> When was the last time you did that special something for him?
> Singles, when was the last time you told your best friend how much they mean 
> to
> you?
>
> Add COLOR to your life, stop living like a blotch of gray on white paper!

Re: CS>anthrax/terrorist [OT]

[Marshall Dudley]

Quite possibly, but it is my understanding that CS is effective.

Marshall

Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote:

>Has anyone heard anything more about the anthrax threat.  Someone
> claiming to be an undercover intelligence operative posted warnings
> about a terrorist plot to hit the major population centers with
> infectious biohazards.  I was wondering if anyone has more
> information.  I can not remember if it was this list or the silver
> list.  Since we are approaching the New Year, I would appreciate any
> information that would enable me to protect my family, friends, and
> neighbors. Does anyone know whether the zappers (Hulda Clark
> frequencies) would be useful for immuno defense against
> anthrax? thanks,, JD  ps.  if anyone wants to write me personally for
> security reasons, I will maintain confidence.

Re: CS>*** CS>Gout/alkalife?

[Debbie McDonald]

Ivan Anderson wrote:
> 
> Deb,
> 
> I have no idea why this would occur. There is nothing in Alkalife
> other than potassium and sodium, both essential minerals, and a
> surplus of hydroxyl ions.
> 
> Two drops of the alkaline booster furnish about 50 mg of potassium
> (daily requirement 1000 mg) and 98 mg of sodium (3000 mg).
> 
> The hydroxyl ions add to the over-all body alkalinity.
> 
> Were you or are you on a strict no salt diet?

No salt restriction, in fact, I tested LOW on salt, doc said he had
never seen anyone that was deficient in salt:). I am a freak. I have
trouble treating my problems as I react to some things. Example, amino
acids taken as supplements tend to give me a reaction like a very
nasty adrenaline surge, that goes one for too long  Deb


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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[M. G. Devour]

Generally excellent discussion, here, even though we try to stay pretty
strictly away from religious discussions. Everyone has remained civil. I
applaud that. And I agree that the treatment has to be "right" for the
person, so the discussion was not altogether out of place.

We should wind it down while we're doing so well, yes?

Be well,

Mike D.
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CS>Dowsing - definition - thanks

[CKing001]

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 06:25:07 EST, deat...@aol.com wrote:

> Point being everything is relative. . .  my grandmother would be 
>consider dowsing evil, you don't . . . 

Nah,
Point is, energy, like money, is neither good or evil.
 It merely is!
Its' use, however, is your choice. That's what you're here to learn.
(In my opinion)
I'm always nice, to some degree..
Chuck

"Try to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are"
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CS>Dowsing - definition - thanks

[DeathBH]

In defense of both Chuck & Nicole & the person who answered the definition:

Chuck:
I understood from the first question where Nicole was coming from; I come 
from 400 years of Baptist ministers - literally - the first one being the 
first governor of South Carolina; Jerry Falwell pales in comparison to the 
conservativeness of my family.  BUT on the other hand, I have been the only 
member of the family to "explore" other denonimations/thought 
processes/religions - whatever.  I have even  dated 5 Atheists, which for a 
Christian is very unusual. . . .  But my point here is - yes there is alot of 
ignorance hidden behind religion AND has been for thousands of years. . .  If 
you don't come from mine or Nicole's background it would be hard for you to 
understand her concern - I did & share it.

My parents although ULTRA religious took me to a "witch" doctor that was 
famous in Georgia (she was written up in the Atlanta Journal here right 
around the time she died) to save my life when I was 3 months old. .. .  .  
she did.   Point being everything is relative. . .  my grandmother would be 
consider dowsing evil, you don't . . . 

hmm be nice now gang:
If you can't play nice, don't play.
Jeannine 


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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[CKing001]

Excellent, Jason,
DAMN, I love this list!
Chuck
"Lead me not into temptation. I can find my own way, thankyouverymuch!"

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 01:38:38 -0700, "Jason R. Eaton" 
wrote:

>King Solomon wisely pointed out that one would be well advised not to contempt 
>prior to investigation...  I'd take it one step futher, being, without 
>PERSONAL investigation.  That means getting or making colloidal silver and 
>testing it for oneself as apposed to reading some others' report.  It also 
>means picking up the traditional dowsing rod oneself.  If one is not willing 
>to do this, then the one I'd call an evil influence is the accuser - the one 
>whom not only contempts prior to investigation, but whom also condemns.  I 
>believe that Yeshua said 'Though they spoke in my name, I never knew them.' < 
>paraphrased > regarding such types.


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Re: CS>New Scars On Face//Lew///Silica

[fhlew]

 I rather 1 dose 30x stat ; To be repeated after one month. If  your

your educated  provocation proved to be correct, probably you will find the
sharp aspect of the foreign body  surfacing. You could literally palpate the

spicule sticking out of the cicatrized matrix. Then, be prepared for the
barrage
of insolence - from the patient. Take it from the horse's mouth : it is not
a
very desirable experience.

  With regards
  Lew



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> Lew,
>
> Concerning homeopathic silica...
>
> Do you suggest 6x or a higher potency?
>
> ~^^V^^~
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Re: CS>Gout

[Ivan Anderson]

- Original Message -
From: Robert Ratliff 
To: 
Sent: Monday, 27 December 1999 14:01
Subject: RE: CS>Gout


> I am continually amazed at this list. Every cure must be purchased.
Like
> nutrition cures nothing, but a supplement can and will cure
anything.
> It's a wonder we lived long enough to populate the earth without
> supplements.
>
>
> Robert

Easy now, Robert,

If people ate and lived properly in the first place most ailments
would not occur, and if one can change a persons diet, life-style and
habits, that's great...but unusual.

There is a place for supplements, if only to counteract the
unavoidable stresses of modern life and to replace the nutrients etc.
no longer present in modern and processed foods.
Other supplements can be used to quickly right imbalances that would
take whole nutrition some time to achieve, and still others can have
benefits over and above that which can be supplied through nutrition.

Herbs and minerals have been used by man and animals as medicines
since the dawn of time.

And, after all, proper nutrition also costs money these days.

Regards
Ivan.



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Re: CS>*** CS>Gout/alkalife?

[Ivan Anderson]

Deb,

I have no idea why this would occur. There is nothing in Alkalife
other than potassium and sodium, both essential minerals, and a
surplus of hydroxyl ions.

Two drops of the alkaline booster furnish about 50 mg of potassium
(daily requirement 1000 mg) and 98 mg of sodium (3000 mg).

The hydroxyl ions add to the over-all body alkalinity.

Were you or are you on a strict no salt diet?

I certainly have no reaction at all on taking these drops, nor have I
heard of one.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: Debbie McDonald 
To: 
Sent: Monday, 27 December 1999 06:26
Subject: CS>*** CS>Gout/alkalife?


> Ivan Anderson wrote:
>
> > Eating fruit, as Robert said, will help because of the potassium
it
> > contains, but probably the best way to alleviate gout is to drink
> > alkaline water. That is, water supplemented with alkaline drops,
such
> > as Alkalife  www.alkalife.com . These drops contain a diluted
mixture
> > potassium hydroxide and sodium hydroxide in the appropriate ratio,
the
> > extra water will also help.
>
> When I tried these drops they made my heart RACE. It was scarey,
since
> I am deficient in minerals and especially mag/pot, what do you think
> is going on??  Deb



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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Jason R. Eaton]

It is a sad day indeed to hear such comments...  It's like saying that moon 
pulling the water in one's body is an evil influence.

People have been burned at the stake for far less than using something like 
colloidal silver, all in the name of some type of righteousness or another.  
How many people who like to point out sin even know what the word means, or 
where it comes from?  Not many.  If any.

Colloidal silver and dowsing have one thing in common; they both operate off of 
natural principles, which Creator Prime designed.  And who can speak for 
another's motive, be it in the use of dowsing, colloidal silver, or religious 
politics?

I personally do not dowse, though I have nothing against it, and I do believe 
in Divine Providence.

King Solomon wisely pointed out that one would be well advised not to contempt 
prior to investigation...  I'd take it one step futher, being, without PERSONAL 
investigation.  That means getting or making colloidal silver and testing it 
for oneself as apposed to reading some others' report.  It also means picking 
up the traditional dowsing rod oneself.  If one is not willing to do this, then 
the one I'd call an evil influence is the accuser - the one whom not only 
contempts prior to investigation, but whom also condemns.  I believe that 
Yeshua said 'Though they spoke in my name, I never knew them.' < paraphrased > 
regarding such types.

It is the doctor whom refuses to tell a mother to take her child off of 
Aspartame products because the AMA told him to do so.

It is the so-called scientist whom claims colloidal silver does not work at all 
because it offends his ego or pascifies a need to belong.

If it does not proclaim:  Live free!  Live boldly!  Think for yourself!  Fail 
often and love your learning! - Then, as it is pointed out so eloquently in 
Corinthians I-13, it IS NOTHING.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Nicole Fraser 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 5:54 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Dowsing




  Dennis Lipter  wrote:


I think you are asking the wrong question. You should be asking "does it
work?" Not "how does it work?"

Dennis Lipter

LOL Well, if there are things involved that I don't want to be a part of 
and are sinful to God.. I think then it is best to stay away from it..;0) If 
GOD is not the one involved in the healing then I would rather be sick. I am 
sure others may disagree? especially those who do not believe in God right? ;0/ 
But I am sure most of those who do agree with me...I don't know your beliefs so 
it may sound childish to you, but to me it is far from that...

Nicole:O)



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Re: CS>Dowsing????

[Vilik Rapheles]

The patient has to be comfortable with the treatment. Period. Doesn't
matter if it makes sense to someone else if it doesn't "fit" the person
being treated. Same thing with diet. Same thing with everything. If it
doesn't feel good and right to the person being treated, it can't work.
The body and mind and spirit have to be open...to allow healing...and
that is an INDIVIDUAL experience, what each person is able and willing 
to be open to.

Fortunately there are many paths to healing, so that each person may
find the one that is right for them


~^^V^^~






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CS>New Scars On Face//Lew///Silica

[Vilik Rapheles]

Lew,

Concerning homeopathic silica...

Do you suggest 6x or a higher potency?

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Re: CS>New Scars On Face

[fhlew]

   Those were very embarrassing moments when a few of
  my patients showed me tiny bits of glass and on one ocassion a small
  piece of plastic, which they pulled out from old cicatriced injuries
sustained
  in previous  motor  vehicle accidents  and traumas. In reviewing their
  clinical records, it was noted that Silica 6x [ Homeopathic ] was often
  prescibed for their various complaints. The phytonutrient, organic
  Silica, is not the same as the potentized silica. The latter's clinico-
  therapeutic effect depends on the dilution factor. I always maintain a
  high index of suspicion of the possible retention of foreign material in any

  injury sustained, particularly, those relating to Motor Vehicle Accidents
 with shattered plastics or glasses. Experience has taught me that potentized
 silica is a good medicine for the extrusion of foreign body in the human
system
 but it can cause havoc with all  implants and
 transplants in the human body. Silica may even reactivate the healed lesion
 in Pulmonary Tuberculosis by its attempt at extrusion of the calcified
complex.
 Foreign material retained in an open injury will evoke a reation which delays

 the healing process. There will be poor cicatrization.  Permanent scarring
may
 occur.

   With regards
 Lew




Robert Ratliff wrote:

> Dr. Christopher says to use comphrey and it will not leave a scar.
> Robert
>
> > Subject: CS>New Scars On Face
> >
> >
> > I had an accident last night and have
> > some bad cuts on my face.  I would
> > like to find something that will prevent
> > any scars from forming.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Bret
> >
> >
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