CS>Anyone on the list make and sell colloidal gold?

[Deborah Gerard]

If not can someone advise where to buy that is a good source?
Thanks in advance,
Debbie

Re: CS>Anyone on the list make and sell colloidal gold?

[Marshall]

On 6/27/2020 9:45 AM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

If not can someone advise where to buy that is a good source?

Thanks in advance,

Debbie
Frank Key sells meso gold.  It has to be made by sputtering, unlike 
silver which takes simple electrolysis.


Marshall

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[James Osbourne Holmes]

Is colloidal gold being successfully used to treat RA?
Hi Mike, et allong time no see.

James Osbourne Holmes
a/k/a *Red Pill Media*
The American States Assembly
Deputy Coordinator New Mexico state
Coordinator Santa Fe county Jural Assembly
*http://t heamericanstatesassembly.net
<http://theamericanstatesassembly.net/>*
http://annavonreitz.com


On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 11:00 AM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> lia
>
> On Jun 17, 2019, at 12:20 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
>
> Rheumatoid Arthritis
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard 
> wrote:
>
>> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison <
>> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> To: Deb Gerard
>>
>> RA ... radioactivity?
>>
>> Ref please.
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Jean Baugh]

lia

> On Jun 17, 2019, at 12:20 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> Rheumatoid Arthritis  
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard  > wrote:
> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
> 
> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison 
> mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> To: Deb Gerard
> 
> RA ... radioactivity?
> 
> Ref please. 
> 

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Dan Nave]

Rheumatoid Arthritis

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison <
> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> To: Deb Gerard
>
> RA ... radioactivity?
>
> Ref please.
>
>

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Deborah Gerard]

 RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison 
 wrote:  
 
 To: Deb Gerard
RA ... radioactivity?
Ref please. 

  

CS>Colloidal Gold

[Phil Morrison]

To: Deb Gerard

RA ... radioactivity?

Ref please.

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Deborah Gerard]

 Doesn't colloidal gold go after RA?
On Monday, June 10, 2019, 12:54:12 AM EDT, Phil Morrison 
 wrote:  
 
 Colloidal silver is a natural pathogen killer.  Colloidal gold is not.

Why are we flogging colloidal gold on a CS Forum?

The are many handy ways to use hydrogen peroxide, see below.

https://wakeup-world.com/2012/07/09/27-amazing-benefits-and-uses-for-hydrogen-peroxide/
  

CS>Colloidal gold

[Phil Morrison]

Colloidal silver is a natural pathogen killer.  Colloidal gold is not.

Why are we flogging colloidal gold on a CS Forum?


The are many handy ways to use hydrogen peroxide, see below.

https://wakeup-world.com/2012/07/09/27-amazing-benefits-and-uses-for-hydrogen-peroxide/

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[David Bearrow]

Hello Jean,
I am by no means an expert nor am I qualified to give medical advice. If you go 
to the link in my last email it addresses your colloidal gold questions.
If I had a dental injury that was infected and leaking puss I would make a 
strong  batch of colloidal silver(10 to 30 ppm) and mix it 10 to 1 with some 
DMSO. I would then soak a cotton ball with the solution and attempt to keep it 
on the infected spot as long as I was able. I would do this 3 times a day for 
at least 5 minutes for 2 weeks.The DMSO has the ability to drive the silver 
into the tissue. This is what I would do (have done in the past) for myself.

best regards,
David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net(Sent from my cellphone)
 On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi David, Several questions please.
Which colloidal gold machine is best for a novice, but good?  How much is it?
I have a niece who had a root canal on one of her front teeth many years ago 
and now it is leaking pus and giving her migraine headaches.  Is there anything 
that would stop the infection?
Thank you,
Jean



On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:53 PM, David Bearrow  wrote:
It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs generator is 
not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage arc to produce it.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html

best regards,
David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net(Sent from my cellphone)
 On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,
I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with the 
silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.
Jean


On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick  wrote:
 

I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps steel 
wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver ones, 
and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
experiment.

Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
smaller surface area.
 
 On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
  
 
 
This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, to 
connect to the generator?
 
 
  How about platinum?  Why not? 
  Jean 
  ***
 

  

All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd use 
smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
 
 On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
 
 Hi Folks,  
  There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person  was and how I 
might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product. 
  Thanks much in advance, 
  Debbie  
 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Douglas Haack]

 Go the archives and search "Colloidal Gold". I've been a member since 1997...
Bob Berger "Ole bob" made some, he passed on some 10 years ago

In SILvation,
Douglas H -- in Oz

   
 
On Monday, 10 June 2019, 11:43:37 am AEST, Jim  wrote:  
 
 
One such person accepted payment quickly, but was nearly impossible to get him 
to return either money or product. 

  

From: Deborah Gerard  
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold

  

Hi Folks, 

  

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to get 
it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I might 
get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.

  

Thanks much in advance,

  

Debbie


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jim]

One such person accepted payment quickly, but was nearly impossible to get him 
to return either money or product.



From: Deborah Gerard 
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold



Hi Folks,



There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to get 
it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I might 
get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.



Thanks much in advance,



Debbie



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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jean Baugh]

Hi David,
 
Several questions please.

Which colloidal gold machine is best for a novice, but good?  How much is it?

I have a niece who had a root canal on one of her front teeth many years ago 
and now it is leaking pus and giving her migraine headaches.  Is there anything 
that would stop the infection?

Thank you,

Jean




> On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:53 PM, David Bearrow  wrote:
> 
> It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs generator 
> is not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage arc to produce it.
> 
> http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html 
> <http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html>
> 
> best regards,
> 
> David Bearrow 
> chip...@verizon.net
> (Sent from my cellphone)
> 
> On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with 
> the silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.
> 
> Jean
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick > <mailto:nazfl...@northlink.com>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps 
> steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver 
> ones, and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.
> 
> I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
> experiment.
> 
> Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
> smaller surface area.
> On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
> 
>> This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, 
>> to connect to the generator?
> 
> How about platinum?  Why not?
> 
> Jean
> 
> ***
>> 
> 
> All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
> fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd 
> use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
> On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks, 
> 
> There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
> get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I 
> might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.
> 
> Thanks much in advance,
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Airwick]

Hi David,

Interesting.

Thanks... Eric

On 6/9/2019 11:53 AM, David Bearrow wrote:
It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs 
generator is not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage 
arc to produce it.


http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html

best regards,

David Bearrow
chip...@verizon.net
(Sent from my cellphone)

On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,

I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap
them with the silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.

Jean



On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick mailto:nazfl...@northlink.com>> wrote:


I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed,
perhaps steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be
substituted for the silver ones, and alligator clips could be
attached to them to grasp the coins.

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold
coins for an experiment.

Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due
to their smaller surface area.

On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell
golden wires, to connect to the generator?


How about platinum?  Why not?

Jean

***



All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of
. or .999 fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since
gold is so expensive I'd use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.

On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
Hi Folks,

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and
I use to get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that
person was and how I might get in contact with him? In need of
getting some of the product.

Thanks much in advance,

Debbie

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[David Bearrow]

It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs generator is 
not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage arc to produce it.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html

best regards,
David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net(Sent from my cellphone)
 On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,
I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with the 
silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.
Jean


On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick  wrote:
 

I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps steel 
wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver ones, 
and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
experiment.

Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
smaller surface area.
 
 On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
  
 
 
This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, to 
connect to the generator?
 
 
  How about platinum?  Why not? 
  Jean 
  ***
 

  

All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd use 
smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
 
 On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
 
 Hi Folks,  
  There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person  was and how I 
might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product. 
  Thanks much in advance, 
  Debbie  
 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jean Baugh]

Hi,

I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with the 
silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.

Jean


> On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick  wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps 
> steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver 
> ones, and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.
> 
> I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
> experiment.
> 
> Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
> smaller surface area.
> On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>>> This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, 
>>> to connect to the generator?
>> 
>> How about platinum?  Why not?
>> 
>> Jean
>> 
>> ***
>>> 
>>> All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
>>> fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd 
>>> use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
>>> On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
>>>> Hi Folks, 
>>>> 
>>>> There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
>>>> get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and 
>>>> how I might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the 
>>>> product.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks much in advance,
>>>> 
>>>> Debbie
>> 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Airwick]

I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps 
steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the 
silver ones, and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the 
coins.


I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for 
an experiment.


Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to 
their smaller surface area.


On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden 
wires, to connect to the generator?


How about platinum?  Why not?

Jean

***


All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . 
or .999 fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so 
expensive I'd use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.


On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Hi Folks,

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I 
use to get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that 
person was and how I might get in contact with him? In need of 
getting some of the product.


Thanks much in advance,

Debbie

CS>Colloidal gold

[Jean Baugh]

> This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, to 
> connect to the generator?

How about platinum?  Why not?

Jean

***
> 
> All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
> fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd 
> use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
> On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
>> Hi Folks, 
>> 
>> There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
>> get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how 
>> I might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.
>> 
>> Thanks much in advance,
>> 
>> Debbie

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Airwick]

All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or 
.999 fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so 
expensive I'd use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.


On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Hi Folks,

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I 
use to get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person 
was and how I might get in contact with him? In need of getting some 
of the product.


Thanks much in advance,

Debbie

CS>Colloidal gold

[Deborah Gerard]

Hi Folks, 
There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to get 
it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I might 
get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.
Thanks much in advance,
Debbie

Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[MaryAnn Helland]

Dear ASL -- you do not have to be intimidated by this -- not at all.  There are 
several nice units that only require snapping alligator clips onto silver bars, 
and plugging an electrical plug into an outlet.  No different than plugging in 
a 
toaster!  Ode's *Silver Puppy* is one generator like this.  Another one is the 
*Colloid Master*, which I have.  You don't have to "set up" anything at all. 
 Others on the list can tell you how to access the Silver Puppy.  To access the 
Colloid Master, go to www.wishgranted.com.  Good luck -- and happy 
silver-making!
MA




From: ASL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, February 24, 2013 4:57:44 PM
Subject: Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

Hi All,
After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver, I 
am 
still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines and what 
like  - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined.  Yet I wish to save my money 
too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of store-bought SC 
and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has not returned. 
Impressed. 
Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step by 
step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?

Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[PT Ferrance]

Hi, there was nothing mechanical about setting up my silver puppy... just 
plugging in a couple of plugs and the wires into the top.  Just read the 
instructions.
Best of luck.
PT





From: ASL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, February 24, 2013 5:57:42 PM
Subject: Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

Hi All,
After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver, I 
am 
still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines and what 
like  - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined.  Yet I wish to save my money 
too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of store-bought SC 
and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has not returned. 
Impressed. 
Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step by 
step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?

RE: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[Neville Munn]

For use on animals may be OK too in getting around those problems.
N.

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:22:46 -0800
From: kscma...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Use the excuse for plants to get around FDA,EPA etc.


From: Heather W 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:30 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold
   

I can't imagine that a couple drops would be able to do much to a large amount 
of soil. I'm thinking it might be just enough for the plant to absorb and use 
to fight off disease and fungus. Maybe I can think of it as treating the plant 
not the soil?

On Feb 24, 2013 5:27 PM, "Steve"  wrote:















James,

 

Please share on the list how you make
colloidal gold.

Thanks,

Steve









From:
silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On 
Behalf Of James McDonald


Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013
2:57 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CS>Selling CS
products



 



I put a
couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do
well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from
$15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of
DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of
course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver
wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers,
fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just
to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different
stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for
the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of
the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put
some money away for new silver wires.



 





 













  

Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[James McDonald]

P.S. If you PM me I will write up a detailed how-to on IS/CS (Ionic 
Silver/Colloidal Silver) build your own and where to get parts that don't cost 
an arm & leg.





 From: ASL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold
 

Hi All,
After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver, I 
am still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines and what 
like  - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined.  Yet I wish to save my money 
too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of store-bought SC 
and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has not returned. 
Impressed. 
Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step by 
step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?

Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[James McDonald]

I keep telling people you can make a current controlled CS generator 
with a CLD(Current Limiting Diode) @ 1mA to 5mA depending on silver 
anode size, 4 - 9v batteries, 9v battery clips, some wire clips, silver 
wire, beaker or other glass jar, timer. You can get this all for 
under(including silver wire/coin) $50.00.



 From: ASL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold
 

Hi All,
After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver, I 
am still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines and what 
like  - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined.  Yet I wish to save my money 
too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of store-bought SC 
and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has not returned. 
Impressed. 
Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step by 
step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?

Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[James McDonald]

Use the excuse for plants to get around FDA,EPA etc.





 From: Heather W 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold
 

I can't imagine that a couple drops would be able to do much to a large amount 
of soil. I'm thinking it might be just enough for the plant to absorb and use 
to fight off disease and fungus. Maybe I can think of it as treating the plant 
not the soil?
On Feb 24, 2013 5:27 PM, "Steve"  wrote:

James,
> 
>Please share on the list how you make
colloidal gold.
>Thanks,
>Steve
>
>
> 
>From:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On 
>Behalf Of James McDonald
>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013
2:57 PM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Selling CS
products
> 
>I put a
couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do
well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from
$15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of
DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of
course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver
wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers,
fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just
to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different
stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for
the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of
the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put
some money away for new silver wires.
> 
> 

Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[James McDonald]

Pretty simple really, I am saving up to buy some 18 guage 24k 99.99% gold wire 
to make my own from scratch. Otherwise I make the CG the easy way with gold 
chloride(from SaltLakeMetals), 1 molar sodium carbonate, maltodextrin (made 
mistake in ordering and ordered a 8lb jar! lifetime+ supply!), DW(Distilled 
Watet), beaker, glass syringe


Add 1/2 level teaspoon maltodextrin to 500ml cold distilled water.
Add 2 ml gold chloride
Add 20 drops 1M sodium carbonate.
Heat in microwave to boiling.
Done



 From: Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:27 PM
Subject: CS>RE: colloidal gold
 

 
James,
 
Please share on the list how you make
colloidal gold.
Thanks,
Steve


 
From:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On 
Behalf Of James McDonald
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013
2:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Selling CS
products
 
I put a
couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do
well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from
$15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of
DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of
course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver
wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers,
fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just
to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different
stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for
the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of
the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put
some money away for new silver wires.

Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[ASL]

Hi All,
After many months reading about how people make their own colloidal silver,
I am still quite intimidated by the thought of trying to set up machines
and what like  - I am not mechanically/chemically-inclined.  Yet I wish to
save my money too. Just cured an ear infection last week using few drops of
store-bought SC and organic olive oil, it was gone after 6 hours and has
not returned. Impressed.
Anyway, as a Deaf person, does anyone know of a YouTube video that has step
by step guide in how to use the machines to make SC with English subtitles?

Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[yousouf eydatoula]

Yes, I, too, am very interested to know how you proceed for colloidal gold 
preparation.



 From: Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:27 PM
Subject: CS>RE: colloidal gold
 

 
James,
 
Please share on the list how you make
colloidal gold.
Thanks,
Steve


 
From:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On 
Behalf Of James McDonald
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013
2:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Selling CS
products
 
I put a
couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that the plants do
well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for anywhere from
$15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own and the cost of
DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the only costs now. Of
course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a CLD diode and silver
wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic stirrer/heater, beakers,
fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a lot more than you need just
to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold), and experiment with different
stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost of charging (I only charge for
the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have to if I end up making gallons of
the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00 for refills to keep up in DW and put
some money away for new silver wires.

Re: CS>RE: colloidal gold

[Heather W]

I can't imagine that a couple drops would be able to do much to a large
amount of soil. I'm thinking it might be just enough for the plant to
absorb and use to fight off disease and fungus. Maybe I can think of it as
treating the plant not the soil?
On Feb 24, 2013 5:27 PM, "Steve"  wrote:

>  James,
>
> ** **
>
> Please share on the list how you make colloidal gold.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>  --
>
> *From:* silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:
> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] *On Behalf Of *James McDonald
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:57 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Selling CS products
>
> ** **
>
> I put a couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that
> the plants do well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for
> anywhere from $15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own
> and the cost of DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the
> only costs now. Of course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use
> a CLD diode and silver wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic
> stirrer/heater, beakers, fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a
> lot more than you need just to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold),
> and experiment with different stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost
> of charging (I only charge for the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have
> to if I end up making gallons of the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00
> for refills to keep up in DW and put some money away for new silver wires.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>

CS>RE: colloidal gold

[Steve]

James,

 

Please share on the list how you make colloidal gold.

Thanks,

Steve

  _  

From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com]
On Behalf Of James McDonald
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Selling CS products

 

I put a couple of drops of CS into my wifes plant water and it seems that
the plants do well and have had no problems. I have seen the IS/CS sell for
anywhere from $15.00 to $45.00 a 4 oz bottle. Thats too much! I make my own
and the cost of DW and the 5 cents of silver that end up in 20 PPM are the
only costs now. Of course all the equipment to make mine, you can just use a
CLD diode and silver wire and mason jars and a timer. I have a magnetic
stirrer/heater, beakers, fitted lids, multimeters, thermometers, pipetts, a
lot more than you need just to make IS/CS. I also make CG(Colloidal Gold),
and experiment with different stabilizers and electrolytes. So the end cost
of charging (I only charge for the bottle) zero for the IS/CS. I might have
to if I end up making gallons of the stuff per week. I have charges $1.00
for refills to keep up in DW and put some money away for new silver wires.

 

 

RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

 Using a DC output, the silver will plate out.

  I think maybe "white gold" electrodes would be the best bet...and 
"piggyback" gold off the electrodes as the silver ionizes the alloys 
lattice structure away.
There are several alloys that qualify, so make sure to get the one that's 
only silver and gold, although a bit of copper probably won't hurt 
anything...but might shorten the shelf life.


The other guy uses baking soda as the electrolyte.
 I'm not seeing much reference to gold carbonate.

Ode



At 10:34 AM 10/9/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Thanks Ode,
Not much to find on the net relative to gold acetate but it probably
isn't something you want whether it is toxic or not since it may make
some portion of the gold inactive.  Do you think using CS would work ok
as a starter? Would it just plate out on one electrode?
Thanks,
Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold

This is the html version of the file
<http://www.espimetals.com/msds%27s/goldacetate.pdf>http://www.espimetal
s.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.
Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl
the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
>vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
>starters for CG like there is with CS?
>  - Steve N
>
>http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Dee]

I think its good for things like arthritis.  dee

Smitty wrote:

colloidal gold . . . . . .



Are there advantages of colloidal gold over silver ?
Just wonderin' after  a lot of coll.gold discussion  on this list.

Smitty


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[cking001]

I have one, (Ovo) but I haven't used it yet.
I sometimes buy such things to have "just in case" and before they
disappear from the market.

Really, colloidal silver has fulfilled all my needs for health
maintenance.

Chuck
Statistically speaking, I am just a standard deviate.


On 10/9/2008 5:19:10 PM, Pat (pattycake29...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> That's too bad about Karl.  He seems so nice online.  He maybe got way over 
> his head and then financial and personal problems have overtaken his good 
> intentions.  I'd
> ordered a bottle of colloidal gold about 3 years ago and got it promptly.
> Does anyone know someone who has received an Ovo and if it does make
> colloidal gold?
> 
> Pat
> 
> Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I
> think)
> 
> http://www.colloidalgold.info/
> 
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Smitty]

>  Colloidal gold is different from CS. CG is for pain (joint, arthritis,
>  fibromyalgia, etc) and studies have shown that it increases IQ.
>   - Steve

Thanks for the info. I like the IQ idea !

Smitty


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Norton, Steve]

Colloidal gold is different from CS. CG is for pain (joint, arthritis,
fibromyalgia, etc) and studies have shown that it increases IQ.
 - Steve

-Original Message-
From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

>colloidal gold . . . . . .

Are there advantages of colloidal gold over silver ?
Just wonderin' after  a lot of coll.gold discussion  on this list.

Smitty



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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Smitty]

>colloidal gold . . . . . .

Are there advantages of colloidal gold over silver ?
Just wonderin' after  a lot of coll.gold discussion  on this list.

Smitty


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Pat]

That's too bad about Karl.  He seems so nice online.  He maybe got way over his 
head and then financial and personal problems have overtaken his good 
intentions.  I'd ordered a bottle of colloidal gold about 3 years ago and got 
it promptly.  Does anyone know someone who has received an Ovo and if it does 
make colloidal gold?


Pat

Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I
think)

http://www.colloidalgold.info/


  


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks Ode,
Not much to find on the net relative to gold acetate but it probably
isn't something you want whether it is toxic or not since it may make
some portion of the gold inactive.  Do you think using CS would work ok
as a starter? Would it just plate out on one electrode? 
Thanks,
Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold

This is the html version of the file
<http://www.espimetals.com/msds%27s/goldacetate.pdf>http://www.espimetal
s.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.
Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl
the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses 
>vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with 
>starters for CG like there is with CS?
>  - Steve N
>
>http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

  I have been unable to make ionic copper with just water..ionic gold may 
also be like that.


ode



At 06:41 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:


Also, are there "ionic gold" issues?
Thanks,
Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wed Oct 08 18:24:09 2008
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold


Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

<http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html>http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

This is the html version of the file 
<http://www.espimetals.com/msds%27s/goldacetate.pdf>http://www.espimetals.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.

Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:


Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Also, are there "ionic gold" issues?
Thanks,
Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wed Oct 08 18:24:09 2008
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold

 
Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

 
Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I
think)

http://www.colloidalgold.info/

 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

i've noticed others with the same problem.
legal action is appropriate and needed.  cooperation with other victims
would probably be needed to get any significant response from
authorities.
someone recently posted a link to a website set up to flag this
operation...
maybe it includes a way to get other victims together?

> -Original Message-
> From: David O'Neil [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)
>
>
> >>
>
>
> Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a 
> lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still 
> waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on 
> other groups too.  Do not send him any money!
>
>
> David
>
>


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CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[David O'Neil]

Hello Bob

I'm in Australia, so any legal resolution to this is unlikely. My  
only satisfaction is exposing this shonk.


David






From: "bob Larson" 
Date: 24 September 2008 10:50:44 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)


i've noticed others with the same problem.
legal action is appropriate and needed.  cooperation with other  
victims
would probably be needed to get any significant response from  
authorities.
someone recently posted a link to a website set up to flag this  
operation...

maybe it includes a way to get other victims together?



-Original Message-
From: David O'Neil [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)









Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a
lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still
waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on
other groups too.  Do not send him any money!


David








From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Date: 24 September 2008 8:01:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold


Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck




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CS>Colloidal Gold Warning

[Philippa Gibson]

I too was taken for a ride by Karl.  I paid for one of his generators  
and had 7 months worth of promises and excuses before I became tired  
of his evasions and contacted my credit card company and was able to  
get my money back.  Every time I contacted him to say that it hadn't  
arrived as promised he emailed back with one excuse after another, and  
more promises of delivery.  Sorry to hear that this is a consistent  
feature of his business operations and that he has taken others in as  
well.


Philippa

"Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a  
lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still  
waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on  
other groups too.  Do not send him any money!



David"

RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[bob Larson]

i've noticed others with the same problem.
legal action is appropriate and needed.  cooperation with other victims
would probably be needed to get any significant response from authorities.
someone recently posted a link to a website set up to flag this operation...
maybe it includes a way to get other victims together?

> -Original Message-
> From: David O'Neil [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)
>
>
> >>
>
>
> Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a
> lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still
> waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on
> other groups too.  Do not send him any money!
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
> > Date: 24 September 2008 8:01:15 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
> >
> >
> > Start here:
> > http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > i think you know about Karl's site?
> > http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
> > i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty
> > nice set
> > of pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic
> > arc gap adjuster.
> >
> > and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
> > produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/
> > process_3.htm
> >
> > bobL
> >
> >>
>
>
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CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[David O'Neil]

Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a  
lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still  
waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on  
other groups too.  Do not send him any money!



David







From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Date: 24 September 2008 8:01:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold


Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck

i think you know about Karl's site?
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty  
nice set

of pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic
arc gap adjuster.

and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/ 
process_3.htm


bobL






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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Dee]

the trouble with Vit D supplementation is, that it 'can' be overloaded 
and that can cause severe problems so it should be approached with 
caution.  Mercola suggests being tested for it first.  dee


B Magnatta wrote:









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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Dee]

I think herpes could also be the cause because when I had shingles, I 
took copious amounts of CS plus lysine and it went in a week.  After 
that whenever I get the awful burning and 'stabbing' pains which used to 
be the start, I would start this regime and it would go.  Another thing 
for this (if it is herpes) could be aerobic oxygen which I am also 
taking for fatique, and it seems to be working fine.  I have read that 
there is thought that one or other of the herpes viruses may be at the 
root of a lot of nerve related diseases, and even maybe, cancer. dee


bob Larson wrote:

fibromyalgia is prominent among the symptoms of active chronic hep-c
infection, so that should be ruled out.  CS manages mine = no more fibro
there are other possible causes (that i don't recall) that should also be
ruled out or dealt with.


  




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Thanks,
Steve N




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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

I'll ask. 
Thanks for the idea.
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: B Magnatta 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tue Sep 23 21:26:26 2008
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold

Is she taking enough vitamin D? It's a natural pain killer, per article that 
was just posted on this site.
 
Sincerely< Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com> 
Date: 9/23/2008 19:09:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Thanks, that generator is reasonably priced and certainly safer than the
microwave transformer approach. I wlll look into all the suggestions
everyone has made and I am surprised be the FAST responses. I sincerely
mean the thanks. The pain killers my friend takes almost incapicates her
and I hope there is spme way to help her have a more normal life.
  - Steve N
 
-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Start here:
  http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm
 
   Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.
 
 
On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have
 
> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
>
 
 
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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[B Magnatta]

Is she taking enough vitamin D? It's a natural pain killer, per article that
was just posted on this site.

Sincerely< Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Norton, Steve
Date: 9/23/2008 19:09:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Thanks, that generator is reasonably priced and certainly safer than the
microwave transformer approach. I wlll look into all the suggestions
everyone has made and I am surprised be the FAST responses. I sincerely
mean the thanks. The pain killers my friend takes almost incapicates her
and I hope there is spme way to help her have a more normal life.
  - Steve N
 
-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Start here:
  http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm
 
   Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.
 
 
On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have
 
> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
>
 
 
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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks, that generator is reasonably priced and certainly safer than the
microwave transformer approach. I wlll look into all the suggestions
everyone has made and I am surprised be the FAST responses. I sincerely
mean the thanks. The pain killers my friend takes almost incapicates her
and I hope there is spme way to help her have a more normal life.
 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold

Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.


On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain 
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have

> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
> 


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks. Yes, I am that Steve Norton. I guess the traffic from here
caused them to take down their site. I should have a printout of the
site some where. I do have plans that uses a microwave transformer and
variac to create a HV arc with gold electrodes and manual gap adjuster
but was hoping there was something simpler. I will have her try CS first
and also Ribose to see if that helps. Then iodine as Craig has
suggested. And if I go the generator route it may make sense to purchase
the generator that Chuck provided a link to. It certainly would be less
dangerous than the microwave transformer route. Everyone has given me so
much to consider so quickly.


Thanks to ALL.
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold

fibromyalgia is prominent among the symptoms of active chronic hep-c
infection, so that should be ruled out.  CS manages mine = no more fibro
there are other possible causes (that i don't recall) that should also
be ruled out or dealt with.

do you suppose CG might get at the root cause or only give symptomatic
relief?

i think you know about Karl's site?
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty nice set
of pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic
arc gap adjuster.

and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/process_3.htm

bobL

> -Original Message-
> From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:12 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
>
>
>
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain 
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have

> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[bob Larson]

fibromyalgia is prominent among the symptoms of active chronic hep-c
infection, so that should be ruled out.  CS manages mine = no more fibro
there are other possible causes (that i don't recall) that should also be
ruled out or dealt with.

do you suppose CG might get at the root cause or only give symptomatic
relief?

i think you know about Karl's site?
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty nice set of
pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic arc gap
adjuster.

and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/process_3.htm

bobL

> -Original Message-
> From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:12 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
>
>
>
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
> design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[cking001]

Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.


On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
> design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
> 
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi Steve,

Fibromyalgia responds very well to iodine supplementation.  It is 
relatively inexpensive as well.  Find more information in these places:


The Yahoo iodine group...much info and people relating experiences:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

The web site with a very comprehensive discussion of high dose iodine
supplementation (meaning Lugol's or Iodoral):

http://www.iodine4health.com

Iodoral:

https://vvv9.com/iodoral  The cheapest I have found it in the US.

The book written by Brownstein, which has great information, but he
isn't a great writer:

http://www.drbrownstein.com/singleproduct.asp?id=787

Hope this is helpful...the iodine group is large and the moderator is 
terrific...her name is Stephanie.


Kind Regards,

Craig

Norton, Steve wrote:
 
A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain

killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
design for a colloidal gold generator?
Thanks,
Steve N


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CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

 
A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
design for a colloidal gold generator?
Thanks,
Steve N


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Re: CS>OT: colloidal gold

[Dianne France]

Marshall,

How would I find that post from Brooks Bradley?  Must have missed that one.  I 
also have arthritis but the cs is helping.  Would LOVE to get rid of it.  I've 
had one joint replacement and they want me to have three more.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley<mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com> 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com<mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> 
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:04 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>OT: colloidal gold



  Gold teatments for arthritis are what I would call a band aid. They can 
  help reduce the pain, but they can come with a huge price, from what I 
  have read, they can be very toxic to the person, and if the dosage is 
  just a little high, can even be fatal.  Why bother with an expensive 
  band aid?  The best solution is to cure the arthritis, which I did for 
  mine about 5 years ago.  Use the protocol that Brooks Bradley posted 
  here not long ago, and simply get rid of it for once and for all.

  Marshall


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Re: CS>OT: colloidal gold

[Marshall Dudley]

Dianne France wrote:
I have a friend that used to get gold injections for severe 
arthritis.  They no longer have gold for this use.  Searching for the 
colloidal silver I ran into a site that also sold a generator for 
colloidal gold.  Has anyone used colloidal gold and would this be 
similar to what my friend was getting injected?  He said that his 
arthritis hasn't been as much under control since he had to give up 
the gold shots.
 
Dianne
Gold teatments for arthritis are what I would call a band aid. They can 
help reduce the pain, but they can come with a huge price, from what I 
have read, they can be very toxic to the person, and if the dosage is 
just a little high, can even be fatal.  Why bother with an expensive 
band aid?  The best solution is to cure the arthritis, which I did for 
mine about 5 years ago.  Use the protocol that Brooks Bradley posted 
here not long ago, and simply get rid of it for once and for all.


Marshall


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CS>colloidal gold

[marmar845]

-- Original message from "Dianne France" 
: -- 


I have a friend that used to get gold injections for severe arthritis.  They no 
longer have gold for this use.  He said that his arthritis hasn't been as much 
under control since he had to give up the gold shots.

 Your friend should be grateful that gold shots aren't being given to him 
anymore.  I also had a friend who was given gold shots for severe arthritis.  
Thirty or forty years of them killed her kidneys -- and last year she had to 
have a kidney transplant.  She was fortunate enough to find a donor -- 
otherwise she would have died.  MA

CS>OT: colloidal gold

[Dianne France]

I have a friend that used to get gold injections for severe arthritis.  They no 
longer have gold for this use.  Searching for the colloidal silver I ran into a 
site that also sold a generator for colloidal gold.  Has anyone used colloidal 
gold and would this be similar to what my friend was getting injected?  He said 
that his arthritis hasn't been as much under control since he had to give up 
the gold shots.

Dianne

Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[faith gagne]

Ditto.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



get over it...

faith gagne wrote:

I did not call a distributor in Colorado.

.

- Original Message - From: "Ode" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



At 10:24 AM 6/16/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Frank Key's business phone number, a different number from the one he 
posts online,  was given to me by my credit card company.


Therefore, you called whom ever you did business with and that would 
be the distributor "Colloids For Life" in Colorado who bought CS in 
quantity from the manufacturer in New Jersey.

 Those numbers are generally on the monthly card statement BTW.

Incidentally, it's OK to store either type of CS in a suitable non 
leaching plastic container. [the original complaint?]
The ionic charge doesn't "leak off" as the myth says and a particulate 
CS doesn't have an ionic charge to leak off if it could.


Further, "Pure" silver and it's Oxides and Hydroxides don't react to 
light, so clear plastic is OK as well.

If it does react, you have something other than silver and water.

Ode

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Fw: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Sandee George]

Hi There Ode - thanks for a good Sunday laugh - keep on keeping on
Warmest regards
Sandee
Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:48:19 -0400
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question
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At 10:57 AM 6/15/2007 -0400, you wrote:

>Frank Key informed me in no uncertain terms that I am not a person of 
>science and that my understanding is bogus, and I don't know what I'm 
>talking about, blah, blah, blah.  Maybe that is not rude in your book,
but 
>it is in mine.   I am a Customer for pete's sake.  The guy needs a
serious 
>attitude adjustment.  I have his email which I printed out and which I
do 
>not intend to forward.   I am fully acquainted with his website.
>
>On the other hand, one of the people at Natural-immunogenics talked to
me 
>for over an hour, answering my every question and discussing every
aspect 
>of their lab and their product.  The spokesperson could not have been 
>nicer. That is a world of difference, my friend.  And if you want an 
>informative website, check out Natural-immugenoics.


   That's nice, but Nat Imm is deceptive,  warps the science and the use
of 
language like no bodies bidness to make you believe you are seeing and 
getting things that don't exist. [Good product, profound distortions 
selling it ]
  If you want a DIS-informative website, check out Natural-immugenoics.

  If you think that's wonderful, Frank is correct...you DON'T know what
you 
are talking about.

  That's not a "sin", so, so what?

But, was it "Frank" that said so?


If you called "Colloids for Life", you called a distributor, not the 
manufacturer.  So, did you talk to "Frank"...or someone else?
Ergo, do you know what you are talking about on ANY score?

It's highly possible that a "distributor" also doesn't know much and used

rudeness as a defense.  NOT uncommon.

Colloids For Life, LLC []
10343 N. Federal Blvd. Unit J#128
Westminster, CO 80260

Purest Colloids, Inc. [Frank]
600 Highland Drive, Suite 602
Westampton, NJ 08060

It's not likely that you can call Colorado and talk to a guy that lives
in 
New Jersey.

I've never known Frank to be rude.  Maybe he isn't "nice".
   I wouldn't know, I'm not sensitive and appreciate *straight to the 
point* even if it makes me wrong.
  Being wrong isn't a sin, it's an opportunity.
Some people are just "offendees" no matter what anyone says, if it 
isn't what they want to hear.
  I HAVE known the "other guy" to play manipulation games and look for 
recruits [ myself ]  to play them with him.

I'll go with not "nice" over a pleasant prevaricator any day.

I sit the fence on the *Ion vs Colloid* issue.
  I see no reason that both wouldn't work and neither hurts anything.
One might be better for some applications and the other better for other 
applications.

I have no way of telling whether or not Meso-silver is exactly what Frank

says it is as he's very secretive about his process, but it's obvious
that 
the Natural Immunogenics silver ISN'T exactly what THAT guy says it is
and 
uses processes that CAN'T do what he says they do and DON'T show what he 
says they show in order to prove it. [and he knows better.  He isn't
stupid 
or ignorant, he's a salesman and salesmen are "nice" to every customers 
face.  It's a requirement for the job. ]
  Calling a cat a dog and proving it with pictures of flying elephants 
taken two oxidation states over, doesn't prove donkeys have claws by 
playing word games with detailed technicalities using mixed languages.

Natural Immunogenics silver is very good stuff, but it's not "special"
and 
no number of barking sales cats will *make* it special.
Now go look at American Biotech ASAP silver.  Exact same stuff, different

meowing sales elephants wearing pigs ears...distortion and distraction 
taken to an ART of mislead to make a sale.

No, we didn't exactly "lie" we lead you down a language path of belief
that 
you will follow all on your own in an effort to make the illogical make 
sense and the disconnected connect. [We know how people think, most
people 
don't...and don't know that they don't. FACT ]
  You "bought" it, it works, we make some bucks...no harm done.  Right?
But had you known what you were REALLY looking at [vs what you were lead
to 
believe you were seeing] , you could have done the same thing, or

Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Arnold Beland]

Ode said "..but you were "sold"."

"Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also 
believes to be true."   --  Demosthenes 

People prefer deception to truth. Lies, especially lattering lies, make them 
feel good about themselves. They are convenient and soothing, like
diet cola - sweet and empty. The truth, by contrast, is too strong. It disturbs 
our digestion and troubles our sleep.  Give me straight-up mendacity any day.

Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.atlasnova.com

Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Dan Nave]

get over it...

faith gagne wrote:

I did not call a distributor in Colorado.

.

- Original Message - From: "Ode" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



At 10:24 AM 6/16/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Frank Key's business phone number, a different number from the one he 
posts online,  was given to me by my credit card company.


Therefore, you called whom ever you did business with and that would 
be the distributor "Colloids For Life" in Colorado who bought CS in 
quantity from the manufacturer in New Jersey.

 Those numbers are generally on the monthly card statement BTW.

Incidentally, it's OK to store either type of CS in a suitable non 
leaching plastic container. [the original complaint?]
The ionic charge doesn't "leak off" as the myth says and a particulate 
CS doesn't have an ionic charge to leak off if it could.


Further, "Pure" silver and it's Oxides and Hydroxides don't react to 
light, so clear plastic is OK as well.

If it does react, you have something other than silver and water.

Ode

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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[faith gagne]

I did not call a distributor in Colorado.

.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ode" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



At 10:24 AM 6/16/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Frank Key's business phone number, a different number from the one he 
posts online,  was given to me by my credit card company.


Therefore, you called whom ever you did business with and that would be 
the distributor "Colloids For Life" in Colorado who bought CS in quantity 
from the manufacturer in New Jersey.

 Those numbers are generally on the monthly card statement BTW.

Incidentally, it's OK to store either type of CS in a suitable non 
leaching plastic container. [the original complaint?]
The ionic charge doesn't "leak off" as the myth says and a particulate CS 
doesn't have an ionic charge to leak off if it could.


Further, "Pure" silver and it's Oxides and Hydroxides don't react to 
light, so clear plastic is OK as well.

If it does react, you have something other than silver and water.

Ode

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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Ode]

At 10:24 AM 6/16/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Frank Key's business phone number, a different number from the one he 
posts online,  was given to me by my credit card company.


Therefore, you called whom ever you did business with and that would be the 
distributor "Colloids For Life" in Colorado who bought CS in quantity from 
the manufacturer in New Jersey.

 Those numbers are generally on the monthly card statement BTW.

Incidentally, it's OK to store either type of CS in a suitable non leaching 
plastic container. [the original complaint?]
The ionic charge doesn't "leak off" as the myth says and a particulate CS 
doesn't have an ionic charge to leak off if it could.


Further, "Pure" silver and it's Oxides and Hydroxides don't react to light, 
so clear plastic is OK as well.

If it does react, you have something other than silver and water.

Ode 



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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[faith gagne]

No, I was not sold.  I was already using their product.



- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question


At 11:16 AM 6/15/2007 -0400, you wrote:


The person I spoke to at immugenics was not a salesman.



..but you were "sold".

Ode





- Original Message - From: "Dee " 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question


I think as a customer it is agreeable to have someone speak to you who is
nice'.  However, in my experience, this does not mean that they are more
knowledgeable than the person who *isn't* 'nice'.  Often the reverse in 
fact

because a good salesman can sell people almost anything, whether it is good
or not.  Dee



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From: faith gagne

Date: 06/15/07 15:58:00

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



Frank Key informed me in no uncertain terms that I am not a person of

Science and that my understanding is bogus, and I don't know what I'm

Talking about, blah, blah, blah. Maybe that is not rude in your book, but

It is in mine. I am a Customer for Pete's sake. The guy needs a serious

Attitude adjustment. I have his email which I printed out and which I do

Not intend to forward. I am fully acquainted with his website.



On the other hand, one of the people at Natural-immunogenics talked to me

For over an hour, answering my every question and discussing every aspect 
of



Their lab and their product. The spokesperson could not have been nicer.

That is a world of difference, my friend. And if you want an informative

Website, check out Natural-immugenoics.






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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[faith gagne]

Frank Key's business phone number, a different number from the one he posts 
online,  was given to me by my credit card company.



- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



At 10:57 AM 6/15/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Frank Key informed me in no uncertain terms that I am not a person of 
science and that my understanding is bogus, and I don't know what I'm 
talking about, blah, blah, blah.  Maybe that is not rude in your book, but 
it is in mine.   I am a Customer for pete's sake.  The guy needs a serious 
attitude adjustment.  I have his email which I printed out and which I do 
not intend to forward.   I am fully acquainted with his website.


On the other hand, one of the people at Natural-immunogenics talked to me 
for over an hour, answering my every question and discussing every aspect 
of their lab and their product.  The spokesperson could not have been 
nicer. That is a world of difference, my friend.  And if you want an 
informative website, check out Natural-immugenoics.



  That's nice, but Nat Imm is deceptive,  warps the science and the use of 
language like no bodies bidness to make you believe you are seeing and 
getting things that don't exist. [Good product, profound distortions 
selling it ]

 If you want a DIS-informative website, check out Natural-immugenoics.

 If you think that's wonderful, Frank is correct...you DON'T know what you 
are talking about.


 That's not a "sin", so, so what?

But, was it "Frank" that said so?


If you called "Colloids for Life", you called a distributor, not the 
manufacturer.  So, did you talk to "Frank"...or someone else?

Ergo, do you know what you are talking about on ANY score?

It's highly possible that a "distributor" also doesn't know much and used 
rudeness as a defense.  NOT uncommon.


Colloids For Life, LLC []
10343 N. Federal Blvd. Unit J#128
Westminster, CO 80260

Purest Colloids, Inc. [Frank]
600 Highland Drive, Suite 602
Westampton, NJ 08060

It's not likely that you can call Colorado and talk to a guy that lives in 
New Jersey.


I've never known Frank to be rude.  Maybe he isn't "nice".
  I wouldn't know, I'm not sensitive and appreciate *straight to the 
point* even if it makes me wrong.

 Being wrong isn't a sin, it's an opportunity.
   Some people are just "offendees" no matter what anyone says, if it 
isn't what they want to hear.
 I HAVE known the "other guy" to play manipulation games and look for 
recruits [ myself ]  to play them with him.


I'll go with not "nice" over a pleasant prevaricator any day.

I sit the fence on the *Ion vs Colloid* issue.
 I see no reason that both wouldn't work and neither hurts anything.
One might be better for some applications and the other better for other 
applications.


I have no way of telling whether or not Meso-silver is exactly what Frank 
says it is as he's very secretive about his process, but it's obvious that 
the Natural Immunogenics silver ISN'T exactly what THAT guy says it is and 
uses processes that CAN'T do what he says they do and DON'T show what he 
says they show in order to prove it. [and he knows better.  He isn't 
stupid or ignorant, he's a salesman and salesmen are "nice" to every 
customers face.  It's a requirement for the job. ]
 Calling a cat a dog and proving it with pictures of flying elephants 
taken two oxidation states over, doesn't prove donkeys have claws by 
playing word games with detailed technicalities using mixed languages.


Natural Immunogenics silver is very good stuff, but it's not "special" and 
no number of barking sales cats will *make* it special.
Now go look at American Biotech ASAP silver.  Exact same stuff, different 
meowing sales elephants wearing pigs ears...distortion and distraction 
taken to an ART of mislead to make a sale.


No, we didn't exactly "lie" we lead you down a language path of belief 
that you will follow all on your own in an effort to make the illogical 
make sense and the disconnected connect. [We know how people think, most 
people don't...and don't know that they don't. FACT ]

 You "bought" it, it works, we make some bucks...no harm done.  Right?
But had you known what you were REALLY looking at [vs what you were lead 
to believe you were seeing] , you could have done the same thing, or close 
enough to it to make zero difference, for a 10th -1000th the cost.



 Examples of barking sales cats:
" More doctors recommend this pill over all others combined " [ Any doctor 
that recommends combining all other pills should be shot]
"Would you [a man] take the same vitamin pills as a

Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Ode Coyote]

At 11:16 AM 6/15/2007 -0400, you wrote:


The person I spoke to at immugenics was not a salesman.



..but you were "sold".

Ode





- Original Message - From: "Dee " 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question


I think as a customer it is agreeable to have someone speak to you who is
nice'.  However, in my experience, this does not mean that they are more
knowledgeable than the person who *isn't* 'nice'.  Often the reverse in fact
because a good salesman can sell people almost anything, whether it is good
or not.  Dee



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---Original Message---


From: faith gagne

Date: 06/15/07 15:58:00

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



Frank Key informed me in no uncertain terms that I am not a person of

Science and that my understanding is bogus, and I don't know what I'm

Talking about, blah, blah, blah. Maybe that is not rude in your book, but

It is in mine. I am a Customer for Pete's sake. The guy needs a serious

Attitude adjustment. I have his email which I printed out and which I do

Not intend to forward. I am fully acquainted with his website.



On the other hand, one of the people at Natural-immunogenics talked to me

For over an hour, answering my every question and discussing every aspect of


Their lab and their product. The spokesperson could not have been nicer.

That is a world of difference, my friend. And if you want an informative

Website, check out Natural-immugenoics.






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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Ode Coyote]

At 10:57 AM 6/15/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Frank Key informed me in no uncertain terms that I am not a person of 
science and that my understanding is bogus, and I don't know what I'm 
talking about, blah, blah, blah.  Maybe that is not rude in your book, but 
it is in mine.   I am a Customer for pete's sake.  The guy needs a serious 
attitude adjustment.  I have his email which I printed out and which I do 
not intend to forward.   I am fully acquainted with his website.


On the other hand, one of the people at Natural-immunogenics talked to me 
for over an hour, answering my every question and discussing every aspect 
of their lab and their product.  The spokesperson could not have been 
nicer. That is a world of difference, my friend.  And if you want an 
informative website, check out Natural-immugenoics.



  That's nice, but Nat Imm is deceptive,  warps the science and the use of 
language like no bodies bidness to make you believe you are seeing and 
getting things that don't exist. [Good product, profound distortions 
selling it ]

 If you want a DIS-informative website, check out Natural-immugenoics.

 If you think that's wonderful, Frank is correct...you DON'T know what you 
are talking about.


 That's not a "sin", so, so what?

But, was it "Frank" that said so?


If you called "Colloids for Life", you called a distributor, not the 
manufacturer.  So, did you talk to "Frank"...or someone else?

Ergo, do you know what you are talking about on ANY score?

It's highly possible that a "distributor" also doesn't know much and used 
rudeness as a defense.  NOT uncommon.


Colloids For Life, LLC []
10343 N. Federal Blvd. Unit J#128
Westminster, CO 80260

Purest Colloids, Inc. [Frank]
600 Highland Drive, Suite 602
Westampton, NJ 08060

It's not likely that you can call Colorado and talk to a guy that lives in 
New Jersey.


I've never known Frank to be rude.  Maybe he isn't "nice".
  I wouldn't know, I'm not sensitive and appreciate *straight to the 
point* even if it makes me wrong.

 Being wrong isn't a sin, it's an opportunity.
   Some people are just "offendees" no matter what anyone says, if it 
isn't what they want to hear.
 I HAVE known the "other guy" to play manipulation games and look for 
recruits [ myself ]  to play them with him.


I'll go with not "nice" over a pleasant prevaricator any day.

I sit the fence on the *Ion vs Colloid* issue.
 I see no reason that both wouldn't work and neither hurts anything.
One might be better for some applications and the other better for other 
applications.


I have no way of telling whether or not Meso-silver is exactly what Frank 
says it is as he's very secretive about his process, but it's obvious that 
the Natural Immunogenics silver ISN'T exactly what THAT guy says it is and 
uses processes that CAN'T do what he says they do and DON'T show what he 
says they show in order to prove it. [and he knows better.  He isn't stupid 
or ignorant, he's a salesman and salesmen are "nice" to every customers 
face.  It's a requirement for the job. ]
 Calling a cat a dog and proving it with pictures of flying elephants 
taken two oxidation states over, doesn't prove donkeys have claws by 
playing word games with detailed technicalities using mixed languages.


Natural Immunogenics silver is very good stuff, but it's not "special" and 
no number of barking sales cats will *make* it special.
Now go look at American Biotech ASAP silver.  Exact same stuff, different 
meowing sales elephants wearing pigs ears...distortion and distraction 
taken to an ART of mislead to make a sale.


No, we didn't exactly "lie" we lead you down a language path of belief that 
you will follow all on your own in an effort to make the illogical make 
sense and the disconnected connect. [We know how people think, most people 
don't...and don't know that they don't. FACT ]

 You "bought" it, it works, we make some bucks...no harm done.  Right?
But had you known what you were REALLY looking at [vs what you were lead to 
believe you were seeing] , you could have done the same thing, or close 
enough to it to make zero difference, for a 10th -1000th the cost.



 Examples of barking sales cats:
" More doctors recommend this pill over all others combined " [ Any doctor 
that recommends combining all other pills should be shot]
"Would you [a man] take the same vitamin pills as a woman??"  [ Maybe, 
maybe not but I'm not getting a sex change to find out. ]


Dennis Lee bends a Sears and Roebuck torque wrench into a pretzel to prove 
how much horsepower a steam engine has.  O  Ahhh !!,  goes the 
impressionable audience eager to invest in a brand new "old

Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[faith gagne]

The person I spoke to at immugenics was not a salesman.



- Original Message - 
From: "Dee " 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question


I think as a customer it is agreeable to have someone speak to you who is
nice'.  However, in my experience, this does not mean that they are more
knowledgeable than the person who *isn't* 'nice'.  Often the reverse in fact
because a good salesman can sell people almost anything, whether it is good
or not.  Dee



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---Original Message--- 




From: faith gagne

Date: 06/15/07 15:58:00

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



Frank Key informed me in no uncertain terms that I am not a person of

Science and that my understanding is bogus, and I don't know what I'm

Talking about, blah, blah, blah. Maybe that is not rude in your book, but

It is in mine. I am a Customer for Pete's sake. The guy needs a serious

Attitude adjustment. I have his email which I printed out and which I do

Not intend to forward. I am fully acquainted with his website.



On the other hand, one of the people at Natural-immunogenics talked to me

For over an hour, answering my every question and discussing every aspect of


Their lab and their product. The spokesperson could not have been nicer.

That is a world of difference, my friend. And if you want an informative

Website, check out Natural-immugenoics.






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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Dee]

I think as a customer it is agreeable to have someone speak to you who is 
nice'.  However, in my experience, this does not mean that they are more
knowledgeable than the person who *isn't* 'nice'.  Often the reverse in fact
 because a good salesman can sell people almost anything, whether it is good
or not.  Dee 

 

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---Original Message--- 

 

From: faith gagne 

Date: 06/15/07 15:58:00 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question 

 

Frank Key informed me in no uncertain terms that I am not a person of 

Science and that my understanding is bogus, and I don't know what I'm 

Talking about, blah, blah, blah. Maybe that is not rude in your book, but 

It is in mine. I am a Customer for Pete's sake. The guy needs a serious 

Attitude adjustment. I have his email which I printed out and which I do 

Not intend to forward. I am fully acquainted with his website. 

 

On the other hand, one of the people at Natural-immunogenics talked to me 

For over an hour, answering my every question and discussing every aspect of


Their lab and their product. The spokesperson could not have been nicer. 

That is a world of difference, my friend. And if you want an informative 

Website, check out Natural-immugenoics. 

 

 


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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[faith gagne]

Frank Key informed me in no uncertain terms that I am not a person of 
science and that my understanding is bogus, and I don't know what I'm 
talking about, blah, blah, blah.  Maybe that is not rude in your book, but 
it is in mine.   I am a Customer for pete's sake.  The guy needs a serious 
attitude adjustment.  I have his email which I printed out and which I do 
not intend to forward.   I am fully acquainted with his website.


On the other hand, one of the people at Natural-immunogenics talked to me 
for over an hour, answering my every question and discussing every aspect of 
their lab and their product.  The spokesperson could not have been nicer. 
That is a world of difference, my friend.  And if you want an informative 
website, check out Natural-immugenoics.



- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question





  The guy that "makes" Meso Silver [Frank Key ] isn't rude and has one of 
the most valuable info sites about CS going.

www.silver-colloids.com

Although the ionic silver solution made by Steven Quinto, sold by Natural 
Immunogenics is very good, it's not different from home made in any 
significant way.
 The TEM [Transmission Electron Microscope] images presented to show 
particle size are a mis-representation of the product and others imaged, 
used to compare that product to, are easily manipulated to look bad in the 
TEM sample preparation process.
 It doesn't show particles as they are in the water and Ions aren't 
particles except by a technicality being used to confuse the consumer.

  A TEM cannot image Silver Ions.
 At 97% ionic, it would not look like a dense field of specks on film, it 
would be hard to actually find a particle at all.


Ode


At 03:05 PM 6/14/2007 -0400, you wrote:

I ordered Meso Silver and it arrived in a plastic bottle.  Every CS I've 
ever seen has been in glass.  I contacted Colloids for life about it and 
they told me how stupid I am, and that they are scientists and I am not a 
scientist.  I told them that in that case  they should perhaps sell only 
to other scientists.


I returned the unopened  product and got my money back.

I am more impressed with  Natural Immunogenics.  They have a beautiful lab 
in Florida.  And they are nice to talk to on the phone too.  Very polite 
and helpful.  For a closer look:  http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/





- Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



At 08:39 AM 6/12/2007 -0700, you wrote:



What is the collective scoop on the products from 
www.Colloidsforlife.com
rated?  I'm interested in finding out about both their gold and the 
silver

as a friend of mine with Lyme Disease just ordered both.

 They're selling Meso Silver/Gold,  Frank Keys baby.


No one knows what it is except mostly particulate..a true colloid.
Sposed to be good stuff.





What about Water
Oz products?


WasVery high PPM Silver Citrate.
Might work just fine but be real careful about total amounts used.  There 
have been a few blue people who used too much.


http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-citrate.html

Ode


 Thanks for any info.
SMax

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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Ode Coyote]

  The guy that "makes" Meso Silver [Frank Key ] isn't rude and has one of 
the most valuable info sites about CS going.

www.silver-colloids.com

Although the ionic silver solution made by Steven Quinto, sold by Natural 
Immunogenics is very good, it's not different from home made in any 
significant way.
 The TEM [Transmission Electron Microscope] images presented to show 
particle size are a mis-representation of the product and others imaged, 
used to compare that product to, are easily manipulated to look bad in the 
TEM sample preparation process.
 It doesn't show particles as they are in the water and Ions aren't 
particles except by a technicality being used to confuse the consumer.

  A TEM cannot image Silver Ions.
 At 97% ionic, it would not look like a dense field of specks on film, it 
would be hard to actually find a particle at all.


Ode


At 03:05 PM 6/14/2007 -0400, you wrote:

I ordered Meso Silver and it arrived in a plastic bottle.  Every CS I've 
ever seen has been in glass.  I contacted Colloids for life about it and 
they told me how stupid I am, and that they are scientists and I am not a 
scientist.  I told them that in that case  they should perhaps sell only 
to other scientists.


I returned the unopened  product and got my money back.

I am more impressed with  Natural Immunogenics.  They have a beautiful lab 
in Florida.  And they are nice to talk to on the phone too.  Very polite 
and helpful.  For a closer look:  http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/





- Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



At 08:39 AM 6/12/2007 -0700, you wrote:



What is the collective scoop on the products from www.Colloidsforlife.com
rated?  I'm interested in finding out about both their gold and the silver
as a friend of mine with Lyme Disease just ordered both.

 They're selling Meso Silver/Gold,  Frank Keys baby.


No one knows what it is except mostly particulate..a true colloid.
Sposed to be good stuff.





What about Water
Oz products?


WasVery high PPM Silver Citrate.
Might work just fine but be real careful about total amounts used.  There 
have been a few blue people who used too much.


http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-citrate.html

Ode


 Thanks for any info.
SMax

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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Dee]

My bought silver is always in plastic bottles and has always been fine,
clear and never discoloured and lasts indefinitely. Dee 

 

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---Original Message--- 

 

From: faith gagne 

Date: 14/06/2007 20:10:23 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question 

 

I ordered Meso Silver and it arrived in a plastic bottle. Every CS I've 

Ever seen has been in glass. I contacted Colloids for life about it and 

They told me how stupid I am, and that they are scientists and I am not a 

Scientist. I told them that in that case they should perhaps sell only to 

Other scientists. 

 

I returned the unopened product and got my money back. 

 


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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[faith gagne]

I ordered Meso Silver and it arrived in a plastic bottle.  Every CS I've 
ever seen has been in glass.  I contacted Colloids for life about it and 
they told me how stupid I am, and that they are scientists and I am not a 
scientist.  I told them that in that case  they should perhaps sell only to 
other scientists.


I returned the unopened  product and got my money back.

I am more impressed with  Natural Immunogenics.  They have a beautiful lab 
in Florida.  And they are nice to talk to on the phone too.  Very polite and 
helpful.  For a closer look:  http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/





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From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question



At 08:39 AM 6/12/2007 -0700, you wrote:



What is the collective scoop on the products from www.Colloidsforlife.com
rated?  I'm interested in finding out about both their gold and the silver
as a friend of mine with Lyme Disease just ordered both.

 They're selling Meso Silver/Gold,  Frank Keys baby.


No one knows what it is except mostly particulate..a true colloid.
Sposed to be good stuff.





What about Water
Oz products?


WasVery high PPM Silver Citrate.
Might work just fine but be real careful about total amounts used.  There 
have been a few blue people who used too much.


http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-citrate.html

Ode


 Thanks for any info.
SMax

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Re: CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[Ode Coyote]

At 08:39 AM 6/12/2007 -0700, you wrote:



What is the collective scoop on the products from www.Colloidsforlife.com
rated?  I'm interested in finding out about both their gold and the silver
as a friend of mine with Lyme Disease just ordered both.

 They're selling Meso Silver/Gold,  Frank Keys baby.


No one knows what it is except mostly particulate..a true colloid.
Sposed to be good stuff.





What about Water
Oz products?


WasVery high PPM Silver Citrate.
Might work just fine but be real careful about total amounts used.  There 
have been a few blue people who used too much.


http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-citrate.html

Ode


 Thanks for any info.
SMax

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CS>Colloidal Silver and Colloidal Gold Question

[s...@emotap]

 
What is the collective scoop on the products from www.Colloidsforlife.com
rated?  I'm interested in finding out about both their gold and the silver
as a friend of mine with Lyme Disease just ordered both.  What about Water
Oz products?   Thanks for any info.
SMax
 
 


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CS>Colloidal gold

[oldgl...@bigcountry.net]

Hi,

If anyone has conducted business with Karl Rhinehart, of the Colloidal Gold
list, either buying CG machines, colloidal gold or colloidal platinum, would
you please contact me privately?

Thank you,

Jean Baugh


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RE: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Jim Holmes]

Interesting.  Thank you for the link.

 Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:10 PM
To: silver list
Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold

To learn about making colloidal gold, you might join the Yahoo group
cg_exchange .  There are instructions for making your own machine, but it
takes high voltage and is a lot more complicated than making CS.  You can
buy colloidal gold from the man who started the colloidal gold groups, Karl
Reinhart. His website is http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com  

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CS>Colloidal Gold

[Pat]

To learn about making colloidal gold, you might join
the Yahoo group  cg_exchange .  There are instructions
for making your own machine, but it takes high voltage
and is a lot more complicated than making CS.  You can
buy colloidal gold from the man who started the
colloidal gold groups, Karl Reinhart. His website is
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com  

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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[mborgert]

cannot open it up
mary
 -- Original message --
From: Susan 
> www.silver-biotic.com 
> 
> "James McCourt, Ph.D."  wrote:  Where did you 
> find 
> it?
> - Original Message - 
>   From: Susan 
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>   Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:45 PM
>   Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>   
> 
>   I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
> depression and it is working fine for me...
>   Susan
> 
> Robert Berger  wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
>   Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
>
>   I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to 
> relieve 
> the knee pains.
>
>   If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   "Ole Bob" with knee problems
> 
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Susan]

www.silver-biotic.com 

"James McCourt, Ph.D."  wrote:  Where did you find 
it?
- Original Message - 
  From: Susan 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
  

  I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
depression and it is working fine for me...
  Susan

Robert Berger  wrote:
Hi Listers,
   
  Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
   
  I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to relieve 
the knee pains.
   
  If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
   
  Thanks
   
  "Ole Bob" with knee problems


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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[James McCourt, Ph.D.]

Where did you find it?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
depression and it is working fine for me...
  Susan

  Robert Berger  wrote:
Hi Listers,

Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??

I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to 
relieve the knee pains.

If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.

Thanks

"Ole Bob" with knee problems




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Susan]

I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
depression and it is working fine for me...
  Susan

Robert Berger  wrote:
Hi Listers,
   
  Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
   
  I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to relieve 
the knee pains.
   
  If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
   
  Thanks
   
  "Ole Bob" with knee problems



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CS>Colloidal Gold

[Robert Berger]

Hi Listers,
   
  Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
   
  I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to relieve 
the knee pains.
   
  If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
   
  Thanks
   
  "Ole Bob" with knee problems

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[sol]

No problem, but don't forget, ok?
sol

William Amos wrote:


Hi:
I started with CG-1 and haven't had time to get back to my story. Christmas 
week and all.
Bill
 

 




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Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[elle roberts]

Here is a very good website step-by-step how to make colloidal gold.
Recommended from the cg_goldlist.
http://www.biochi.com/Minerals%20Dissolution%202.htm 
elle
>From: kent 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:41:17 -0800
>
>Bill,
>Could you do us a favor and let us know the results when they come
>in.  I am very interested in colloidal gold and have started to do a
>little research, however is too expensive for me at this time.
>- Original Message - From: "William Amos"
>
>To: 
>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:45 AM
>Subject: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>
>
>>Hello Again:
>>My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color.
>>I experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a
>>simple but complicated method of making it with HVAC and LVDC in
>>combination. I have sent it to be tested, with no results yet.
>>The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
>>Bill
>>--
>>What color is your CG? I am just beginning to look into CG, have
>>looked at it only very briefly, did not think seriously about it
>>due to the expense. I still have a trial of homeopathic gold I want
>>to do first,  but am starting to compile info.
>>TIA,
>>sol
>>
>>William Amos wrote:
>>
>>><>I'm not sure that it would, but I make CG and have to prepare
>>>the
>>>water and use HVAC first and then use 30 vdc
>>>to finish the product.
>>>The tyndall effect is always much stronger than CS.
>>>The RESULTS are amazing. It is not a simple process and doesn't
>>>require underwater arcing.
>>>Bill Amos
>>>--
>>>I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold. I
>>>wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would
>>>weigh in on this.
>>>sol
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series
>>
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CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hi:
I started with CG-1 and haven't had time to get back to my story. Christmas 
week and all.
Bill
--
Bill,
 Could you do us a favor and let us know the results when they come in.  I  am 
very interested in colloidal gold and have started to do a little  research, 
however is too expensive for me at this time. - Original Message - 
From: "William Amos" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:45 AM
Subject: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


> Hello Again:
> My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color.
> I experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but 
> complicated method of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have 
> sent it to be tested, with no results yet.
> The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
> Bill
> --
> What color is your CG? I am just beginning to look into CG, have looked 
> at it only very briefly, did not think seriously about it due to the 
> expense. I still have a trial of homeopathic gold I want to do first,  but 
> am starting to compile info.
> TIA,
> sol
>
> William Amos wrote:
>
>> <>I'm not sure that it would, but I make CG and have to prepare the
>> water and use HVAC first and then use 30 vdc
>> to finish the product.
>> The tyndall effect is always much stronger than CS.
>> The RESULTS are amazing. It is not a simple process and doesn't
>> require underwater arcing.
>> Bill Amos
>> --
>> I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold. I
>> wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would
>> weigh in on this.
>> sol
>>
>
>
> 



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Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[kent]

Bill,
Could you do us a favor and let us know the results when they come in.  I 
am very interested in colloidal gold and have started to do a little 
research, however is too expensive for me at this time.
- Original Message - 
From: "William Amos" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:45 AM
Subject: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold



Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color.
I experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but 
complicated method of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have 
sent it to be tested, with no results yet.

The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
Bill
--
What color is your CG? I am just beginning to look into CG, have looked 
at it only very briefly, did not think seriously about it due to the 
expense. I still have a trial of homeopathic gold I want to do first,  but 
am starting to compile info.

TIA,
sol

William Amos wrote:


<>I'm not sure that it would, but I make CG and have to prepare the
water and use HVAC first and then use 30 vdc
to finish the product.
The tyndall effect is always much stronger than CS.
The RESULTS are amazing. It is not a simple process and doesn't
require underwater arcing.
Bill Amos
--
I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold. I
wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would
weigh in on this.
sol

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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[elle roberts]

A good read about colloidal gold is at http://www.colloidalgold.net/c-gold.htm
elle
>From: stepbystep...@aol.com
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:13:29 EST
>
>I would appreciate some info too. I would like to try it.
>Thanks,
>Vitale
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

That's too bad, I've learned so much from various Yahoo Groups and it's cutting 
edge stuff you'de never get in a book.

I "think" you have to set up a yahoo e-mail account (or something like that) 
before you can set up a user idenity with yahoo?

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: cliff hume 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; to...@shaw.ca 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Lea Ann:

  I have never been able to hook up with yahoo for some reason, so I just quit 
trying anymore.

  Regards,  Cliff  ch...@shaw.ca 

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

That's too bad, I've learned so much from various Yahoo Groups and it's cutting 
edge stuff you'de never get in a book.

I "think" you have to set up a yahoo e-mail account (or something like that) 
before you can set up a user idenity with yahoo?

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: cliff hume 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; to...@shaw.ca 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Lea Ann:

  I have never been able to hook up with yahoo for some reason, so I just quit 
trying anymore.

  Regards,  Cliff  ch...@shaw.ca 

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[cliff hume]

Lea Ann:

I have never been able to hook up with yahoo for some reason, so I just quit 
trying anymore.

Regards,  Cliff  ch...@shaw.ca 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lea Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:51 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Hello Cliff,

  Whether Bill sends you the info or not... if you want to make your own 
colloidal gold, I highly suggest joining the colloidal gold yahoo group at:  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

  They discuss all kinds of set ups for making CG, saftey, and how to make 
improvements on their systems/proceedures.

  There is a lot of knowledge on that list!

  Best Regards,
  Lea Ann Savage
  Satellite Beach, FL
  321-773-7088
- Original Message - 
From: cliff hume 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca   I 
want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.

Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[cliff hume]

I wasn't able to get in.

Cliff ch...@shaw.ca



- Original Message - 
From: "William Amos" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:15 AM
Subject: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold



Hi Guys:
I too suggest you get all the information you can before trying CG. You 
will be dealing with High Voltage AC.
Also most methods require a high voltage arc, which I dont care for, and 
it can also produce traces on nitric acid in the solution. I use the total 
submersion method without an arc and a combination of HVAC and LVDC.
If it's ok with Mike, I will put some info on this afternoon, since the 
weather outside is frightful, and the fire is so delightful.

Bill Amos

--
Hello Cliff,

Whether Bill sends you the info or not... if you want to make your own 
colloidal gold, I highly suggest joining the colloidal gold yahoo group 
at:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/


They discuss all kinds of set ups for making CG, saftey, and how to make 
improvements on their systems/proceedures.


There is a lot of knowledge on that list!

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
 - Original Message - 
 From: cliff hume

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


 Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca
 I
 want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.

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CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hi:
I have it at a lab right now, no results yet. It does have a stronger tyndall 
than any silver I have made. I would guess I  can make a pint for forty cents.
Easier...yes,  I have it set up on timers. I turn it  on and leave
You may be right about the product you mention, but I know the results of using 
my CG.
Color could also indicate larger particles.Remember, I haven't finished telling 
my story on how I make it yet, and nobody has explained why it has to have 
color or what the color means.
Bill
.P.S. I won't hold my breath on the treats.
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The main thing about the color, that I am interested in,  is if to have  
significant ppm of CG means the solution has color, then if you have a  CG 
solution with no color, perhaps the ppm is less than 1. Which perhaps  means 
that the homeopathic remedy Aurum Metallicum in the lower  potencies (where 
some original substance is still in the remedy, might  work just as well? Tons 
cheaper, and easier.

Have you ever had a batch of your CG tested by a lab?

How much do you figure it costs you in electricity to make a batch of  CG, and 
how large is a batch? 
TIA,
sol
P.S. Still making the treats. Haven't sent any yet. Hope to but it is  getting 
really late.

William Amos wrote:

>Hi sol
>I don't know who set the standards as to the color of CG.
>Without making any claims, I am told there are results.
>
>It is used for arthritis, mental acuity, dipsomania, which is the 
>uncontrollable desire for alcohol and other types of pain.
>Are you sending any of your friends any of those goodies you made ?   Bill 
>Amos 
>  
>


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Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[sol]

The main thing about the color, that I am interested in,  is if to have 
significant ppm of CG means the solution has color, then if you have a 
CG solution with no color, perhaps the ppm is less than 1. Which perhaps 
means that the homeopathic remedy Aurum Metallicum in the lower 
potencies (where some original substance is still in the remedy, might 
work just as well? Tons cheaper, and easier.


Have you ever had a batch of your CG tested by a lab?

How much do you figure it costs you in electricity to make a batch of 
CG, and how large is a batch?

TIA,
sol
P.S. Still making the treats. Haven't sent any yet. Hope to but it is 
getting really late.


William Amos wrote:


Hi sol
I don't know who set the standards as to the color of CG.
Without making any claims, I am told there are results.

It is used for arthritis, mental acuity, dipsomania, which is the 
uncontrollable desire for alcohol and other types of pain.
Are you sending any of your friends any of those goodies you made ?   Bill Amos 
 




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CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hi sol
I don't know who set the standards as to the color of CG.
Without making any claims, I am told there are results.

It is used for arthritis, mental acuity, dipsomania, which is the 
uncontrollable desire for alcohol and other types of pain.
Are you sending any of your friends any of those goodies you made ?   Bill Amos 
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What I'd like is some links to sites that give info on why one would use  CG. 
Also I'm confused. One site I read said CG ALWAYS has some color,  even at 1 
ppm, and that red/rose is best. But I believe Bill, you said  your CG is clear? 
So is your CG considerably less than 1 ppm, or what?  I'd really like some 
clarification on the CG color issue, before I  actually purchase any.
Since I'm a total klutz, and also suffer some lack of concentration, I  doubt 
I'll ever want to make my own, as the combination of clumsy and  inattention 
and high voltage is probably not a good idea, to say the  least. So I'll 
probably be buying CG if I want to try it.
TIA,
sol

William Amos wrote:

>Hi Guys:
>I too suggest you get all the information you can before trying CG. You will 
>be dealing with High Voltage AC.
>Also most methods require a high voltage arc, which I dont care for, and it 
>can also produce traces on nitric acid in the solution. I use the total 
>submersion method without an arc and a combination of HVAC and LVDC. 
>If it's ok with Mike, I will put some info on this afternoon, since the 
>weather outside is frightful, and the fire is so delightful.
>Bill Amos
>
>
>  
>


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