Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?
Angus Davidson schreef op 28-10-2014 18:01: Hi Jill Can these changes please be updated the resellers. They are normally the first point of call for the customers and so far they in large been inaccurate with their advise, Kind regards Angus But then again: if more and clear information would be available publicly (not just to the resellers) some of the problems would possibly vanish rather automagically I guess. It will depend on what update Autodesk actually will produce, but if it's well constructed and worded, I'm sure the resellers will benefit from it instantly as well and the users will have documentation to point out any possible inconsistencies. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?
Hi guys, Actually the resellers all have an extremely detailed FAQ with more info than your average customer would care to wade through: that was the rationale behind the abbreviated one for the customers and the idea that you would talk to your resellers for more info. As mentioned, the customer one got a little bit over-abbreviated. I am trying to get that fixed. Unfortunately some resellers are more attentive to the materials we provide than others. :-) Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: October-28-14 1:01 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Hi Jill Can these changes please be updated the resellers. They are normally the first point of call for the customers and so far they in large been inaccurate with their advise, Kind regards Angus attachment: winmail.dat
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Great, and even if it may have missed a point or two, the May version was already was quite straightforward. Thanks very-much for your efforts in making it so! J On 10/29/14 12:14, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Actually the resellers all have an extremely detailed FAQ with more info than your average customer would care to wade through: that was the rationale behind the abbreviated one for the customers and the idea that you would talk to your resellers for more info. As mentioned, the customer one got a little bit over-abbreviated. I am trying to get that fixed. Unfortunately some resellers are more attentive to the materials we provide than others. :-) Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: October-28-14 1:01 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Hi Jill Can these changes please be updated the resellers. They are normally the first point of call for the customers and so far they in large been inaccurate with their advise, Kind regards Angus
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Thanks (again) Jill! Looking forward to it! J On 10/27/14 10:53, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hey guys, I agree the updated FAQ (May) should contain the information that you can purchase new seats of the bundle - I'll see if I can get that added. Please don't refer to the original FAQ because it contains information that has since changed (for the better). If in doubt about any of your options, please speak to your reseller or ask me. Thanks, Jill
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Hi Jill Can these changes please be updated the resellers. They are normally the first point of call for the customers and so far they in large been inaccurate with their advise, Kind regards Angus On 2014/10/28, 6:54 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks (again) Jill! Looking forward to it! J On 10/27/14 10:53, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hey guys, I agree the updated FAQ (May) should contain the information that you can purchase new seats of the bundle - I'll see if I can get that added. Please don't refer to the original FAQ because it contains information that has since changed (for the better). If in doubt about any of your options, please speak to your reseller or ask me. Thanks, Jill table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
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On a related note, it is a good time to check the Autodesk Store for the Desktop Subscription. In my specific case (e.g. locationlicenses) I see that updating my subscription before Feb. 1st 2015: Autodesk Entertainment Creation Suite Ultimate Subscription Advanced Support 1 Year from my reseller for 1.380,40 € incl. taxes is a better deal than ending up buying a completely new license at the Autodesk Store: Entertainment Creation Suite Ultimate for either monthly 365 € or annual 2.900 € (plus taxes) I´m sure there will be special promos and license transfer offerings into Desktop Subscription deals available but still, the Autodesk Store gives an idea where software rental prices are supposed to land in the future. In a nutshell, from that I will expect to have to pay at least twice as much per year. Except for Mudbox... Cheers, tim On 26.10.2014 23:55, Jason S wrote: 2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller. 4) In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. That's great Jill, seems much more reasonable! and sorry if I confused the bundle with the Ultimate Suite, because the suite use to be the only way left to get new seats, and I admit I didn't even check the updated FAQ dating back to last May! But even now searching for it, only turned up a 3 post thread on SI community from Hirazi, don't even know how he found it (seemingly unannounced) (but thanks to Hirazi too! :] ) And that may actually be much more actractive now, since not unlike Photoshop (~6.5 mil out of ~8mil still sticking to the last perpetual ver after 2 years), SI users wont be the only ones using 'last versions', as many Maya users will also seemingly stick to 'last' perpetual versions as well, based only on very similar sentiment, while probably not having (literally) 10$/month bargain promotional 'introductory' rental prices. anyways, cheers! On 10/25/14 10:37, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: So, just to reiterate in case anyone's still confused: 1) If you have a current seat of Softimage on subscription you can migrate to the bundle for free - effectively just choose whether you want free Maya or free Max - until Feb 1, 2016. 2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller. 3) If you have a seat of Softimage that is six versions or less back, you can upgrade to the bundle until Feb 1, 2015. This should be a cheaper option for you if you don't want an additional seat. How much cheaper will depend on how old your license is. This is why the FAQ focuses on this. Again, contact your reseller. 4) In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. However, since upgrades are going away for all products on Feb 1, 2015, you may very well want to consider getting on subscription if you want to keep your Maya or Max seat current. Hope this helps, Jill
RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?
Hey guys, I agree the updated FAQ (May) should contain the information that you can purchase new seats of the bundle - I'll see if I can get that added. Please don't refer to the original FAQ because it contains information that has since changed (for the better). If in doubt about any of your options, please speak to your reseller or ask me. Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:55 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? 2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller. 4) In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. That's great Jill, seems much more reasonable! and sorry if I confused the bundle with the Ultimate Suite, because the suite use to be the only way left to get new seats, and I admit I didn't even check the updated FAQ dating back to last May! But even now searching for it, only turned up a 3 post thread on SI community from Hirazi, don't even know how he found it (seemingly unannounced) (but thanks to Hirazi too! :] ) And that may actually be much more actractive now, since not unlike Photoshop (~6.5 mil out of ~8mil still sticking to the last perpetual ver after 2 years), SI users wont be the only ones using 'last versions', as many Maya users will also seemingly stick to 'last' perpetual versions as well, based only on very similar sentiment, while probably not having (literally) 10$/month bargain promotional 'introductory' rental prices. anyways, cheers! On 10/25/14 10:37, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: So, just to reiterate in case anyone's still confused: 1) If you have a current seat of Softimage on subscription you can migrate to the bundle for free - effectively just choose whether you want free Maya or free Max - until Feb 1, 2016. 2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller. 3) If you have a seat of Softimage that is six versions or less back, you can upgrade to the bundle until Feb 1, 2015. This should be a cheaper option for you if you don't want an additional seat. How much cheaper will depend on how old your license is. This is why the FAQ focuses on this. Again, contact your reseller. 4) In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. However, since upgrades are going away for all products on Feb 1, 2015, you may very well want to consider getting on subscription if you want to keep your Maya or Max seat current. Hope this helps, Jill attachment: winmail.dat
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2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller. 4) In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. That's great Jill, seems much more reasonable! and sorry if I confused the bundle with the Ultimate Suite, because the suite use to be the only way left to get new seats, and I admit I didn't even check the updated FAQ dating back to last May! But even now searching for it, only turned up a 3 post thread on SI community from Hirazi, don't even know how he found it (seemingly unannounced) (but thanks to Hirazi too! :] ) And that may actually be much more actractive now, since not unlike Photoshop (~6.5 mil out of ~8mil still sticking to the last perpetual ver after 2 years), SI users wont be the only ones using 'last versions', as many Maya users will also seemingly stick to 'last' perpetual versions as well, based only on very similar sentiment, while probably not having (literally) 10$/month bargain promotional 'introductory' rental prices. anyways, cheers! On 10/25/14 10:37, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: So, just to reiterate in case anyone's still confused: 1) If you have a current seat of Softimage on subscription you can migrate to the bundle for free - effectively just choose whether you want free Maya or free Max - until Feb 1, 2016. 2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller. 3) If you have a seat of Softimage that is six versions or less back, you can upgrade to the bundle until Feb 1, 2015. This should be a cheaper option for you if you don't want an additional seat. How much cheaper will depend on how old your license is. This is why the FAQ focuses on this. Again, contact your reseller. 4) In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. However, since upgrades are going away for all products on Feb 1, 2015, you may very well want to consider getting on subscription if you want to keep your Maya or Max seat current. Hope this helps, Jill
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So, just to reiterate in case anyone's still confused: 1) If you have a current seat of Softimage on subscription you can migrate to the bundle for free - effectively just choose whether you want free Maya or free Max - until Feb 1, 2016. 2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller. 3) If you have a seat of Softimage that is six versions or less back, you can upgrade to the bundle until Feb 1, 2015. This should be a cheaper option for you if you don't want an additional seat. How much cheaper will depend on how old your license is. This is why the FAQ focuses on this. Again, contact your reseller. 4) In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. However, since upgrades are going away for all products on Feb 1, 2015, you may very well want to consider getting on subscription if you want to keep your Maya or Max seat current. Hope this helps, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of phil harbath Sent: October-24-14 4:13 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? I think it is tough to blame any for NOT totally understanding the situation. -Original Message- From: Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:04 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on sub)... Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite It's a bit discouraging that you missed all the info in the FAQ, the webinar and the post here from jill ! The upgrade path for Softimage users is called the Maya plus Softimage 2015 and it's the same price as just buying Maya or a Maya upgrade. But that's not offered on the web, you need to talk to a reseller to get it. attachment: winmail.dat
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So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free vram. All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas? I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig. No sli setup. I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly help. Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file. This is fun! On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Pssst!! Redshift (!) ;) On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that. I don't know what shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage. I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't have to buy more from Autodesk. I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license. In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try that first, see if it helps. Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it. Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the problem, perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or something else.
RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?
Hi Patrick Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them before they will work. You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow 4 fully functional trial licences. Kind regards Angus From: Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 October 2014 10:05 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free vram. All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas? I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig. No sli setup. I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly help. Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file. This is fun! On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.commailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Pssst!! Redshift (!) ;) On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.commailto:patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that. I don't know what shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage. I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't have to buy more from Autodesk. I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license. In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try that first, see if it helps. Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it. Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the problem, perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or something else. table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
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Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of redshift and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same render error as you about not enough vram - I also have a 560TI. I was one version behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then worked fine. super fast strands rendering! On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: Hi Patrick Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them before they will work. You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow 4 fully functional trial licences. Kind regards Angus -- *From:* Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 24 October 2014 10:05 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free vram. All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas? I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig. No sli setup. I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly help. Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file. This is fun! On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Pssst!! Redshift (!) ;) On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that. I don't know what shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage. I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't have to buy more from Autodesk. I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license. In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try that first, see if it helps. Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it. Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the problem, perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or something else. This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
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I thought I just upgraded the driver this week, but...most likely this is it. I didn't even think of that at 3am :) I'll give that a go when I return home. Thanks! On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of redshift and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same render error as you about not enough vram - I also have a 560TI. I was one version behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then worked fine. super fast strands rendering! On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: Hi Patrick Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them before they will work. You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow 4 fully functional trial licences. Kind regards Angus -- *From:* Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 24 October 2014 10:05 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free vram. All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas? I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig. No sli setup. I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly help. Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file. This is fun! On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Pssst!! Redshift (!) ;) On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that. I don't know what shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage. I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't have to buy more from Autodesk. I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license. In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try that first, see if it helps. Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it. Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the problem, perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or something else. This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
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I had the same thing over here. Just be sure to have the latest NVIDIA drivers installed. Testing RedShift on a GTX 570 atm. :-) Rob \/-\/\/ On 24-10-2014 12:10, Rob Chapman wrote: Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of redshift and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same render error as you about not enough vram - I also have a 560TI. I was one version behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then worked fine. super fast strands rendering! On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: Hi Patrick Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them before they will work. You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow 4 fully functional trial licences. Kind regards Angus *From:* Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com mailto:patrickne...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 24 October 2014 10:05 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free vram. All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas? I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig. No sli setup. I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly help. Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file. This is fun! On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Pssst!! Redshift (!) ;) On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com mailto:patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that. I don't know what shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage. I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't have to buy more from Autodesk. I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license. In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try that first, see if it helps. Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it. Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the problem, perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or something else. This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8445 - Release Date: 10/24/14
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You might also ask on the redshift Forum (very Softimage Friendly) Beleive me, the "fun" will come soon enough :) On 10/24/14 6:10, Rob Chapman wrote: Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of redshift and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same render error as you about not enough vram - I also have a 560TI. I was one version behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then worked fine. super fast strands rendering! On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: Hi Patrick Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them before they will work. You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow 4 fully functional trial licences. Kind regards Angus From: Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 October 2014 10:05 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free vram. All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas? I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig. No sli setup. I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly help. Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file. This is fun! On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, "Jason S" jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Pssst!! Redshift (!) ;) On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that. I don't know what shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage. I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't have to buy more from Autodesk. I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license. In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try that first, see if it helps. Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what makes your life difficult with rendering
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Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...) attachment: winmail.dat
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Hi Jill, Elsewhere on this list I noted a couple of days ago that the document currently online as the updated FAQ might require some additional update, in that it was intentionally sparse, but might have gotten too sparse in the process. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com
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Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub), as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a non-(internally)-developed product) We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to, but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much available (and also still very useful) I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known secret? :) Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access? Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback! J On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...)
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Actually you don't have to answer that, because I think we already know the answer. But otherwise thanks for your presence and support around here! J On 10/24/14 13:06, Jason S wrote: Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub), as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a non-(internally)-developed product) We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to, but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much available (and also still very useful) I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known secret? :) Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access? Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback! J On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...)
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Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub), as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a non-(internally)-developed product) We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to, but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much available (and also still very useful) I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known secret? :) Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access? Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback! J On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/ products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last% 20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@ listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...)
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I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription. -Original Message- From: Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com Sent: 10/24/2014 1:57 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub), as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a non-(internally)-developed product) We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to, but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much available (and also still very useful) I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known secret? :) Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access? Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback! J On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/ products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last% 20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@ listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...)
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Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on sub)... Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite Buy $ 6825 (more like 7k) or if already specifically purchased the UECS .. (which I hardly think would the case ) Upgrade $ 4780 Any of which is just not reasonable if you have SI ...2012/2013/2014 and would like to update to the latest (last) 2015 version On Friday, October 24, 2014 13:57:54, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub), as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a non-(internally)-developed product) We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to, but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much available (and also still very useful) I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known secret? :) Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access? Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback! J On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/__content/dam/autodesk/www/__products/autodesk-softimage/__docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%__20Release%20Announcement_FAQ___UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-bounces@listproc.__autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@__listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.__com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...)
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(Sorry, see erratum added between the asterisk) Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on sub)... Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite Buy $ 6825 (more like 7k) or if already specifically purchased the UECS .. (which I hardly think would the case **for many** ) Upgrade $ 4780
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Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on sub, you CAN get on sub and then upgrade to SI 2015? On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote: I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription. From: Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: 10/24/2014 1:57 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, "Jason S" jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub), as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a non-(internally)-developed product) We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to, but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much available (and also still very useful) I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known secret? :) Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access? Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback! J On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...)
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On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on sub)... Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite It's a bit discouraging that you missed all the info in the FAQ, the webinar and the post here from jill ! The upgrade path for Softimage users is called the Maya plus Softimage 2015 and it's the same price as just buying Maya or a Maya upgrade. But that's not offered on the web, you need to talk to a reseller to get it.
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yes, you upgrade and get on sub (both), so it was like 2500 + 600 (give or take). From: Jason S Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on sub, you CAN get on sub and then upgrade to SI 2015? On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote: I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription. -- From: Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: 10/24/2014 1:57 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub), as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a non-(internally)-developed product) We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to, but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much available (and also still very useful) I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known secret? :) Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access? Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback! J On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...)
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Hum! might be expensive, but 3k sure beats 7k, good to know there's at least an accessible (secret) avenue! ;) On 10/24/14 15:51, Sven Constable wrote: I just ordered the upgrade/update to soft2015 NLM and I was never on sub. Rather expensive btw. But!... I got 3dsmax for free. Wohoo! From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on sub, you CAN get on sub and then upgrade to SI 2015? On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote: I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription. From: Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: 10/24/2014 1:57 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, "Jason S" jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub), as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a non-(internally)-developed product) We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to, but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much available (and also still very useful) I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known secret? :) Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access? Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback! J On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the s
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I think it is tough to blame any for NOT totally understanding the situation. -Original Message- From: Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:04 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on sub)... Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite It's a bit discouraging that you missed all the info in the FAQ, the webinar and the post here from jill ! The upgrade path for Softimage users is called the Maya plus Softimage 2015 and it's the same price as just buying Maya or a Maya upgrade. But that's not offered on the web, you need to talk to a reseller to get it.
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I didn’t bite on this. As I was only 1 sub behind, so in the the old days with AVID, I would have been charge 1 back sub and 1 current sub for a total of 1800 to get current. However, our good friends at Autodesk, are not as flexible, and have a more concrete approach, if you are off subs you have to upgrade (2500 or discount slightly when on special) and then buy subscription on top of that (600 some for Maya). From: phil harbath Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:06 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? yes, you upgrade and get on sub (both), so it was like 2500 + 600 (give or take). From: Jason S Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on sub, you CAN get on sub and then upgrade to SI 2015? On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote: I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription. -- From: Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: 10/24/2014 1:57 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub), as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a non-(internally)-developed product) We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to, but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much available (and also still very useful) I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known secret? :) Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access? Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback! J On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: Hi guys, Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change there). Hope that helps. Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf Thanks, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...)
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... got 3dsmax for free. Lol! xD On 10/24/14 15:51, Sven Constable wrote: I just ordered the upgrade/update to soft2015 NLM and I was never on sub. Rather expensive btw. But!... I got 3dsmax for free. Wohoo! From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:12 PM
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Hurry up and learn 3DS Max, it's the next to be axed. UX Designer www.ericlampi.com On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: ... got 3dsmax for free. Lol! xD On 10/24/14 15:51, Sven Constable wrote: I just ordered the upgrade/update to soft2015 NLM and I was never on sub. Rather expensive btw. But!... I got 3dsmax for free. Wohoo! *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason S *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 9:12 PM
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It is possible to use Send-To between different versions. The link below is for Mudbox though it applies for other products as well. Just look for the appropriate syncfg file inside the Synergy directory. http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-Send-To-option-is-greyed-out.html?v=2012 Hope this helps. Thanks, Hsiao Ming From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:27 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Can't render Mi2's, Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions, can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent existing- licences. can't not rent, can't, can't... You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you. On 10/22/14 18:07, Stephen Blair wrote: You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license. You'll need a mental ray standalone license. In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone Softimage license to a Network license by paying the difference. IIRC, that difference was equal to the network license activation fee, and that is what the network license activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license, you'll get the five batch licenses automatically, so focus on getting the reseller to answer the question: can I upgrade my standalone Softimage license to a network license? On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.commailto:patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: Matt thanks. I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software the MR license is through (max and maya) Section 10.1.1 Rendering. I'm no lawyer. But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my money. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.commailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage. I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render time. Anyone have any ideas? Patrick N. attachment: winmail.dat
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Mental ray standalone from Autodesk has come with the Softimage shaders for years. It renders mi2 from Max, Maya, Softimage. There is only one kind of mental ray standalone license. The batch licenses you get with the app are to run xsibatch or mayabatch, etc., it is not to run ray.exe On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Mental ray is a separate product with its own file format. As long as there are no softimage specific dependencies (eg; shaders) in the .mi2 files you send to be rendered, you're not running afoul of any laws that I know of because at that point it's native mental ray data, not softimage data. Besides, I've never heard of this being a problem in a legal sense even if there were softimage dependencies (on the technical side It would be a different matter). Think of it this way, if you converted all your softimage scenes to .fbx file format, then imported those files to be rendered in max/maya using mental ray, would there be any legal problem? I think not. Converting to .mi2 for this purpose is no different. Matt
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This is long...TL;DR at the bottom So, I'm using mental ray because it came with Softimage, it is well established and adding 5 batch render node licenses was supposed to be cheap. 3rd party renders all seem to lack some feature and are as expensive as the 5 batch render node upgrade. Mental ray standalone is ~$850 a seat. I have called several re-sellers, I have called Autodesk they didn't know anything and referred me to resellers. Resellers are a joke most of the time, no one knows anything in the complicated Autodesk world. I was even told I had to find a local reseller by another reseller...I emailed Autodesk...they just closed the question apparently. I didn't even get a response, just a request to review my CS experience. My history with Softimage: I started learning XSI/Softimage in college when it was AVID based...I bought a student license...then Autodesk bought it...then I couldn't get support for my dongle that would stop working randomly for my student edition to keep learning on it. I finally wanted to start using it for some vfx on online shorts so I went to upgrade...Nope...can't upgrade. I was still a student...and a reseller advised me to buy the current student package and upgrade...(prior to the free online stuff)...bought it...Nope Softimage didn't have an upgrade path like that anymore...even though it was on a catalog my re-seller had and said maya apparently did still have this path since you could buy it buy its self. Years later...I had saved enough to finally buy it outright...foolishly cashed in some investments. Bought it...and then found out I could get a discount and the ultimate bundle upgrade with motionbuilder, mudbox etc for cheapcredit card debit for a little while sure...~5 months later...they killed Softimage. Where I'm at now: So now I have a little money saved to buy a network upgrade for just Softimage: ~$920...but...I upgraded to Ultimate...so now I have to buy an upgrade for ALL of them to network not just Softimage: ~$1800. If I were a company and making money...that's not a terrible price. But, I'm paying more for software that is killed and couldn't possibly lead me to a new career in 3d... Reseller says that is still an option and checked with my serial. I don't need network upgrade for the full bundle...and I can't/won't afford that. I don't like maya and max now on the principle of the Autodesk buy out and kill process. I'm probably never going to do this as a job so it's hard to justify another 1800 for some project that will get posted online and lead to nothing, but the cost of renting server time for a small project was the same as just buying 5 nodes. How is it i paid around $200 for max(broken apart) in the bundle...but I get unlimited mental ray licenses...yet for Softimage at $2500 or whatever it was i get one node locked license... The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that. I don't know what shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage. I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't have to buy more from Autodesk. I wish companies ending their usage of Softimage could transfer a license with render nodes...but 2nd hand software is illegal because it's a license...even if the software is discontinued... TL;DR I've spent lots of money over the years trying to be a hobbyist...Can't upgrade a single product from the Ultimate bundle to network license. Reseller says use 3dsmax backburner for mental ray rendering of MI2 files. Resellers mostly don't know what is going on. Autodesk CS doesn't know what's going on. I should learn Blender. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com wrote: Mental ray standalone from Autodesk has come with the Softimage shaders for years. It renders mi2 from Max, Maya, Softimage. There is only one kind of mental ray standalone license. The batch licenses you get with the app are to run xsibatch or mayabatch, etc., it is not to run ray.exe On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Mental ray is a separate product with its own file format. As long as there are no softimage specific dependencies (eg; shaders) in the .mi2 files you send to be rendered, you're not running afoul of any laws that I know of because at that point it's native mental ray data, not softimage data. Besides, I've never heard of this being a problem in a legal sense even if there were softimage dependencies (on the technical side It would be a different matter). Think of it this way, if you converted all your softimage scenes to .fbx file format, then imported those files to be rendered in max/maya using mental ray, would there be any legal problem? I think not. Converting to .mi2 for this purpose is no different. Matt
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Pssst!! Redshift (!) ;) On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that. I don't know what shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage. I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't have to buy more from Autodesk. I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license. In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try that first, see if it helps. Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it. Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the problem, perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or something else.
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Actually, it seems that it doesn't work Based on this.. ... However, Autodesk has an article about how the configuration of this stuff http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112id=17012833linkID=11937425 Stephen Blair 22/08/2012 Other recipients: ro...@casema.nl, soft...@listproc.autodesk.com Most likely all you will do is enable the menu command, and it still won't work. I've messed around with that stuff before. AFAIK, you need to have the same versions of each product eg 2013 sends to 2013 Unless it that link (now pointing to a general page) wasn't the same as what you suggested, so maybe it could still work. And if it does work, it could almost be a 'secret'! Cause even after saerching around, everyone seemed to be saying nope! need same ver.) + also this from Mudbox Support You must have an equivalent version of the other Autodesk product for the Send to options to be available in the File menu (for example Maya 2012 with Mudbox 2012.) http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/mne-help/global/docs/mudbox2012/en_us/files/GUID-07F82D80-9F2F-4244-BE48-C7309179C22-56-htm.html?v=2012 But thanks for that great secret! :) On 10/23/14 4:44, Hsiao Ming Chia wrote: It is possible to use Send-To between different versions. The link below is for Mudbox though it applies for other products as well. Just look for the appropriate syncfg file inside the Synergy directory. http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-Send-To-option-is-greyed-out.html?v=2012 Hope this helps. Thanks, Hsiao Ming
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But it would be great if the most important point be also be adressed, can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent existing- licences. IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-allowing- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...) On 10/22/14 20:27, Jason S wrote: Can't render Mi2's, Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions, can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent existing- licences. can't not rent, can't, can't... You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you. On 10/22/14 18:07, Stephen Blair wrote: You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license. You'll need a mental ray standalone license. In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone Softimage license to a Network license by paying the difference. IIRC, that difference was equal to the network license activation fee, and that is what the network license activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license, you'll get the five batch licenses automatically, so focus on getting the reseller to answer the question: can I upgrade my standalone Softimage license to a network license? On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: Matt thanks. I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software the MR license is through (max and maya) Section "10.1.1 Rendering." I'm no lawyer. But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my money. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage. I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render time. Anyone have any ideas? Patrick N.
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Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch of subscribers. Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is. No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on this list + current SI-Community Users. (If too afraid of making too many sales) Why such tight limits? On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote: IMHO, I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the latest version, to be able to purchase (at least) the same amount of existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one) (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for such things...)
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I should add that the steps described are not recommended and may not work as expected. Modifying the ExecutablePath can redirect Send-To to launch a different version, but there is no guarantee that the rest of the Send-To process will function properly. This is especially so if you attempt to Send-To from say 2015 to a much earlier version like 2013. Thanks, Hsiao Ming From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:12 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Actually, it seems that it doesn't work Based on this.. ... However, Autodesk has an article about how the configuration of this stuff http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112id=17012833linkID=11937425 Stephen Blair [cid:image001.png@01CFEF80.CCF89810][ ] [ ] 22/08/2012 Other recipients: ro...@casema.nlmailto:ro...@casema.nl, soft...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com [ ] Most likely all you will do is enable the menu command, and it still won't work. I've messed around with that stuff before. AFAIK, you need to have the same versions of each product eg 2013 sends to 2013 Unless it that link (now pointing to a general page) wasn't the same as what you suggested, so maybe it could still work. And if it does work, it could almost be a 'secret'! Cause even after saerching around, everyone seemed to be saying nope! need same ver.) + also this from Mudbox Support You must have an equivalent version of the other Autodesk product for the Send to options to be available in the File menu (for example Maya 2012 with Mudbox 2012.) http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/mne-help/global/docs/mudbox2012/en_us/files/GUID-07F82D80-9F2F-4244-BE48-C7309179C22-56-htm.html?v=2012 But thanks for that great secret! :) On 10/23/14 4:44, Hsiao Ming Chia wrote: It is possible to use Send-To between different versions. The link below is for Mudbox though it applies for other products as well. Just look for the appropriate syncfg file inside the Synergy directory. http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-Send-To-option-is-greyed-out.html?v=2012 Hope this helps. Thanks, Hsiao Ming attachment: winmail.dat
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I don't like your odds friend :( On 22 October 2014 18:52, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage. I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render time. Anyone have any ideas? Patrick N.
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Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage. I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render time. Anyone have any ideas? Patrick N.
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Matt thanks. I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software the MR license is through (max and maya) Section 10.1.1 Rendering. I'm no lawyer. But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my money. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage. I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render time. Anyone have any ideas? Patrick N.
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Mental ray is a separate product with its own file format. As long as there are no softimage specific dependencies (eg; shaders) in the .mi2 files you send to be rendered, you're not running afoul of any laws that I know of because at that point it's native mental ray data, not softimage data. Besides, I've never heard of this being a problem in a legal sense even if there were softimage dependencies (on the technical side It would be a different matter). Think of it this way, if you converted all your softimage scenes to .fbx file format, then imported those files to be rendered in max/maya using mental ray, would there be any legal problem? I think not. Converting to .mi2 for this purpose is no different. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license? Matt thanks. I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software the MR license is through (max and maya) Section 10.1.1 Rendering. I'm no lawyer. But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my money. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage. I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render time. Anyone have any ideas? Patrick N.
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You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license. You'll need a mental ray standalone license. In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone Softimage license to a Network license by paying the difference. IIRC, that difference was equal to the network license activation fee, and that is what the network license activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license, you'll get the five batch licenses automatically, so focus on getting the reseller to answer the question: can I upgrade my standalone Softimage license to a network license? On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: Matt thanks. I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software the MR license is through (max and maya) Section 10.1.1 Rendering. I'm no lawyer. But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my money. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage. I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render time. Anyone have any ideas? Patrick N.
Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?
Can't render Mi2's, Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions, can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent existing- licences. can't not rent, can't, can't... You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you. On 10/22/14 18:07, Stephen Blair wrote: You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license. You'll need a mental ray standalone license. In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone Softimage license to a Network license by paying the difference. IIRC, that difference was equal to the network license activation fee, and that is what the network license activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license, you'll get the five batch licenses automatically, so focus on getting the reseller to answer the question: can I upgrade my standalone Softimage license to a network license? On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote: Matt thanks. I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software the MR license is through (max and maya) Section "10.1.1 Rendering." I'm no lawyer. But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my money. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license? So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage. I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render time. Anyone have any ideas? Patrick N.
Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Can't render Mi2's, Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions, can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent existing- licences. can't not rent, can't, can't... You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you. At the point you're at, Patrick, I'd probably download a crack, get that running, and publicly dare AD to come after me. It's not as if you didn't try to play by the rules. It's not as if your use of a crack economically hurts them, since using any other AD product isn't a viable option. They've simply made it impossible for you to actually use a product you legitimately bought.
Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?
Sorry for the outburst, I sometimes find unfairness so unfair. On 10/22/14 21:09, Ed Manning wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: Can't render Mi2's, Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions, can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent existing- licences. can't not rent, can't, can't... You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you. At the point you're at, Patrick, I'd probably download a crack, get that running, and publicly dare AD to come after me. It's not as if you didn't try to play by the rules. It's not as if your use of a crack economically hurts them, since using any other AD product isn't a viable option. They've simply made it impossible for you to actually use a product you legitimately bought.