Re: [Talk-hr] Mozilla Location Service
Ima još jedan: http://www.opencellid.org/ Janko ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress - suggestions for wider areas
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Here is a map of typhoon eye track, created by Pierre Lorioux of CartONG, currently intern at ICRC : http://54.201.17.178/cartong/Haiyan/Haiyan_Philippines_10112013_CartONG.pdf This map seems to correspond to the reported damages by local media, although many areas are still inaccessible. Reports from local media is slowly coming in and it is not very good news. Some reports estimates the death toll to exceed 10K. While Haiyan/Yolanda is now out of the Philippines, there is new low pressure brewing in the Pacific [0] which could exacerbate the situation in many affected areas. Right now, the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) the major government agency organizing the relief is using OSM as the basemap for its Disaster Situation Map [1]. Please continue working on the current tasks, we will create new tasks as we get additional request from local responders. IMO, priorities should focus on: - access - roads and bridges - presence of settlements - landuse=residential should be sufficient [0] http://openweathermap.org/Maps?zoom=5lat=11.54473lon=122.4209layers=B0FFTFTT [1] http://disaster.dswd.gov.ph/maps.php PS. I went to Tacloban just this year to talk about FOSS4G and OSM for DRR. My visit in some ways, sparked the interest of local NGOs, GIS users and government employees to start contributing to OSM. These are the areas you may have noticed to be well-mapped road-wise. Some of these mappers live in the mostly devastated areas. I tried to contact a few but haven't heard from any of them since the Yolanda made landfall in Tacloban. Still hoping they are safe. -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] State of the Map Taiwan 2013 - State of the Map in Asia presentation
Hi guys, State of the Map Taiwain 2013 took place last Saturday, November 9, in Taipei and Taichi-san, from the OpenStreetMap Foundation Japan, gave a keynote speech about OSM in Asia. You can check out his presentation here: http://www.slideshare.net/mapconcierge/20131109-sot-mtaiwan The information for the Philippines starts at slide 168 and talking about mapping due to Typhoon Yolanda. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] I would like to help
With mapping currently damaged areas. Could anyone briefly inform me how? (I am mid-advances mapper using mainly josm in normal mapping). Here are the links I have explored so far after googling, but none of them gives me any guidelines: - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines - http://neis-one.org/2013/11/typhoon-haiyan-osm-response/ - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan_%282013%29 there seem to be some coordination at http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 but it does not give advice where to get current imaginery (after disaster). The only actual map is herehttp://google.org/crisismap/a/gmail.com/TyphoonYolanda, but it uses googlemaps. Please help me to help :) Jakub ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] I would like to help
Hi Jakub, Unfortunately, there is still no available satellite imagery after the disaster. Some people are working on this right now. What OSM mappers are doing right now is mapping using the existing pre-disaster imagery on the following task pages: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/338 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 If you have further clarifications, please do reply. Thank you for the concern! On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Jakub Tesinsky talk...@kub.cz wrote: With mapping currently damaged areas. Could anyone briefly inform me how? (I am mid-advances mapper using mainly josm in normal mapping). Here are the links I have explored so far after googling, but none of them gives me any guidelines: - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines - http://neis-one.org/2013/11/typhoon-haiyan-osm-response/ - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan_%282013%29 there seem to be some coordination at http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 but it does not give advice where to get current imaginery (after disaster). The only actual map is herehttp://google.org/crisismap/a/gmail.com/TyphoonYolanda, but it uses googlemaps. Please help me to help :) Jakub ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] I would like to help
Hi Jakub, Yes, please use Bing. As stated in the 3 links I gave, you can trace buildings, roads, and residential areas using Bing. The 3 links provide instructions such as which locations to work on. Hope that helps! On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jakub Tesinsky talk...@kub.cz wrote: Ok, can you please briefly tell me how to help if I have few hours of time? Which imaginery I should use? Bing? 2013/11/11 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Hi Jakub, Unfortunately, there is still no available satellite imagery after the disaster. Some people are working on this right now. What OSM mappers are doing right now is mapping using the existing pre-disaster imagery on the following task pages: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/338 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 If you have further clarifications, please do reply. Thank you for the concern! On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Jakub Tesinsky talk...@kub.cz wrote: With mapping currently damaged areas. Could anyone briefly inform me how? (I am mid-advances mapper using mainly josm in normal mapping). Here are the links I have explored so far after googling, but none of them gives me any guidelines: - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines - http://neis-one.org/2013/11/typhoon-haiyan-osm-response/ - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan_%282013%29 there seem to be some coordination at http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339but it does not give advice where to get current imaginery (after disaster). The only actual map is herehttp://google.org/crisismap/a/gmail.com/TyphoonYolanda, but it uses googlemaps. Please help me to help :) Jakub ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] I would like to help
Thanks. I think there should be such simple explanation at least here - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan_%282013%29 so the potential helpers know where to go. The pages seem to deal with 3 years old activities ... 2013/11/11 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Hi Jakub, Yes, please use Bing. As stated in the 3 links I gave, you can trace buildings, roads, and residential areas using Bing. The 3 links provide instructions such as which locations to work on. Hope that helps! On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jakub Tesinsky talk...@kub.cz wrote: Ok, can you please briefly tell me how to help if I have few hours of time? Which imaginery I should use? Bing? 2013/11/11 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Hi Jakub, Unfortunately, there is still no available satellite imagery after the disaster. Some people are working on this right now. What OSM mappers are doing right now is mapping using the existing pre-disaster imagery on the following task pages: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/338 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 If you have further clarifications, please do reply. Thank you for the concern! On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Jakub Tesinsky talk...@kub.cz wrote: With mapping currently damaged areas. Could anyone briefly inform me how? (I am mid-advances mapper using mainly josm in normal mapping). Here are the links I have explored so far after googling, but none of them gives me any guidelines: - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines - http://neis-one.org/2013/11/typhoon-haiyan-osm-response/ - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan_%282013%29 there seem to be some coordination at http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339but it does not give advice where to get current imaginery (after disaster). The only actual map is herehttp://google.org/crisismap/a/gmail.com/TyphoonYolanda, but it uses googlemaps. Please help me to help :) Jakub ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Using aerial and ground photos for mapping
Hi, While post-disaster satellite imagery is not available yet, it is possible to use photos or videos, taken from the air or the ground, to get a better idea of what is there. A collection of geolocated photos or videos found on social media (focused on damages and aid deployment) has been started here: https://haiyan.crowdmap.com/ Some of them might be useful for mapping. In this process, it is also quite possible that you find that some locations could be improved. In this case, please add a comment to the report, so that admins can take this into account. And of course the photo/video crowdmap is open for contributions from all (but please avoid duplicates). Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] First satellite post-typhoon Tacloban city maps available
Message original Sujet: [CrisisMappers] First satellite post-typhoon Tacloban city maps available Date : Sun, 10 Nov 2013 17:31:03 -0800 (PST) De :GGL gglemoin...@gmail.com Répondre à :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com The European Commission has released the first post-typhoon maps for Tacloban city (Philippines) at: http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/list-of-components/EMSR058 more will follow in the next hours. Guido Lemoine -- CrisisMappers | The Humanitarian Technology Network http://www.CrisisMappers.net ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk-be] AGIV CRAB import
Hi, I've been looking at creating my own tools for the CRAB data. I've made some software to import the files provided by AGIV into a postgresql database. You can find it here: https://github.com/kroeckx/crab-tools To create the same .csv files as Ben generates I suggest you use the following query: SELECT DISTINCT ON (point) postcode, municipality_name, street_name, house_number_label, ST_Y(ST_Transform(point, 4326)), ST_X(ST_Transform(point, 4326)) FROM crab.address_position WHERE postcode = ? ORDER BY point; This should give you more addresses and only the valid addresses, and in most cases it should now end up on the building. It should also have grouped all the different numbers belonging to the same building into 1 node. I'm not sure how the data on http://addr.openstreetmap.fr/vlaanderen is generated exactly. But I'm going to look into improving things. Kurt ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Volgende hangout / Next hangout
Voorstel: 22/11 Mogelijke topics: 1) Wandelnetwerken. Ik heb gisteren en vandaag al wat materiaal verzameld. Dus als er interesse is, hou ik die opzij tot de volgende hangout. Anders breng ik ze zo wel in. 2) Naar aanleiding van de vraag van Sus. We zouden misschien Osmose kunnen gebruiken om fouten op te sporen en die dan proberen op te lossen. 3) Sus vroeg ook nog naar het gebruik van OSM. Iemand die daar wat zou kunnen over vertellen ? Weet niet helemaal waar hij naar toe wil: Garmin, Android, iOS, de vele kaarten die on-line beschikbaar zijn, (graphhopper, umap, openlinkmap, e.d.) ? Toepassingen zoals de kiosks in Helsinki ? Andere ideeën zijn ook welkom. met vriendelijke groeten m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 05:59:19PM +, Craig Wallace wrote: Note MySociety do not use boundaries from OSM for the UK for their projects. Instead they just use boundaries from OS OpenData. I think this is an example of where a separate database makes sense. ie with the complete, up to date OS OpenData boundaries, in a format compatible with OSM. Yes, some of the OS OpenData boundaries have been added to OSM. But they are very incomplete/inconsistent, and often accidentally edited or broken etc. And probably out of date if the official boundaries have changed anywhere. So generally not as useful or reliable as just using the OS OpenData. This will not be fixed by seperating out the boundarys. If MySociety is interested in up to date, complete and non broken boundarys it could sponsor a simple monitoring tool for boundaries. As soon as there is a hint something is broken there are hundrets of mappers interested in fixing. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
In my opinion this is an example where OSM data is broken and should be fixed. Andrew In India the law requires that the external boundaries of the country include parts of Kashmir that is now under control of foreign countries. This regularly causes issues when OSM is demoed publicly at institutes or to government officials. Also the startup community is apprehensive of using openstreetmap because of this issue. In this case, its the law that is broken, but adapting OSM to be able to handle such political challenges is more feasible than fixing the law. Google, Bing and other map providers display a different set of boundaries based on the laws of the user's country. But for OSM, it would probably a very simple solution if we have a lowzoom tileset which don't have any international borders. Would that be a good idea? -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
Am 10.11.2013 13:45, schrieb Arun Ganesh: In my opinion this is an example where OSM data is broken and should be fixed. Andrew In India the law requires that the external boundaries of the country include parts of Kashmir that is now under control of foreign countries. This regularly causes issues when OSM is demoed publicly at institutes or to government officials. Also the startup community is apprehensive of using openstreetmap because of this issue. In this case, its the law that is broken, but adapting OSM to be able to handle such political challenges is more feasible than fixing the law. Google, Bing and other map providers display a different set of boundaries based on the laws of the user's country. But for OSM, it would probably a very simple solution if we have a lowzoom tileset which don't have any international borders. Would that be a good idea? If you need wrong (according to the facts) data for legal reasons, then patch the osm dataset with the official boundaries here and render tiles from it. Rendering tiles isn't that difficult, at least if we're talking about demoing and so on. Use osm, replace the indian boundary by the legal version and render tiles from it. If you still keep the original stylesheet you would need only to replace the affected tiles there by your own (if it's feasible for the demo to use the original osm tiles - according to the tile usage policy). I don't think this is a problem with OSM in particular, but with every correct dataset not originating in india. regards Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database
If we agree that borders are a problem, then what is the best solution? Do you mean borders are a problem in general, or are there specific problems related to specific borders like those mentioned in this thread? I'd argue that the GIS community has already decided that layers are the solution. QGIS, open source gis software, already handles layers much like ESRI. JOSM even handles layers. IMHO osm is post-layers ;-) This is quite a fascinating statement. Is there any content on the web describing the concept of a post-layer GIS in more detail? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Mensen die voordracht over OSM geven?
Helaas nog geen geïnteresseerden gevonden, sowieso lijkt deze mailinglijst een beetje dood. Dat laatste is wel jammer omdat openstreetmap best awesome is. On 6-11-2013 13:29, Henk Hoff wrote: Hoi Raymond, Zoals het er nu naar uitziet, zou ik wel kunnen. Echter, aangezien Delft voor mij wel een beetje aan de andere kant van het land is het misschien handiger (wanneer je meerdere gegadigden hebt) om voor iemand anders te kiezen :-) Laat maar even weten. Gr, Henk Hoff 2013/11/5 Raymond van Vugt ligfietsraym...@gmail.com mailto:ligfietsraym...@gmail.com Hoi,5/ voor het weekend van de piratenpartij zoek ik eigenlijk een ervaren OSM'er die duidelijk en vrijblijvend OSM zou willen presenteren op 15/16 november te Delft. Zelf ben ik hypergeïnteresseerd, anderen ook, maar verder als openfietsmap op de garmin installeren en een beetje editten in potlach kom ik niet echt. Interesse? dan houdt ik me aanbevolen Groet, Raymond van Vugt ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Mensen die voordracht over OSM geven?
Raymond, probeer anders het OSM forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=12 Waarschijnlijk is dat nu wel erg kort dag. Frank On 11-11-2013 0:32, Raymond wrote: Helaas nog geen geïnteresseerden gevonden, sowieso lijkt deze mailinglijst een beetje dood. Dat laatste is wel jammer omdat openstreetmap best awesome is. On 6-11-2013 13:29, Henk Hoff wrote: Hoi Raymond, Zoals het er nu naar uitziet, zou ik wel kunnen. Echter, aangezien Delft voor mij wel een beetje aan de andere kant van het land is het misschien handiger (wanneer je meerdere gegadigden hebt) om voor iemand anders te kiezen :-) Laat maar even weten. Gr, Henk Hoff 2013/11/5 Raymond van Vugt ligfietsraym...@gmail.com mailto:ligfietsraym...@gmail.com Hoi,5/ voor het weekend van de piratenpartij zoek ik eigenlijk een ervaren OSM'er die duidelijk en vrijblijvend OSM zou willen presenteren op 15/16 november te Delft. Zelf ben ik hypergeïnteresseerd, anderen ook, maar verder als openfietsmap op de garmin installeren en een beetje editten in potlach kom ik niet echt. Interesse? dan houdt ik me aanbevolen Groet, Raymond van Vugt ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [Talk-br] Áreas protegidas
Oi Augusto Eu conferi uma área que eu conheço razoávelmente bem que é o Parque do Rola Moça em Nova Lima: http://osm.org/go/PAWd_mAl- Eu diria que basicamente não tem nada a ver com a área real do parque que é muito maior do que isto. A estrada secundária que você vê passando embaixo passa bem no meio do parque. abraço Gerald PS: eu concordo com o Fernando, você precisa criar um usuário específico para esta importação. 2013/11/9 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Acabei de fazer uma importação de unidades de conservação. Os dados vêm do arquivo LIM_UNIDADE_CONSERVACAO_NAO_SNUC_A.shp da base cartográfica escala 250 mil do IBGE, ou seja, são informações que (suponho) o MMA e o ICMBio não coleta. Esses dados parecem bem piores que os dados do ICMBio que eu pretendo processar em breve. Em algumas dados que particularmente ruins, eu adicionei um comentário na tag fixme. Sinta-se à vontade para fazer alterações ou deletar algo que pareça não fazer sentido. A maioria das unidades ficam no sudeste, em particular há várias no entorno de Belo Horizonte. Um caso que eu vou deixar para o pessoal da região da divisa SP/MS/PR decidir é a tal da Reserva Estadual Pontal do Paranapanema, que parece só existir em teoria (a área contém apenas fazendas): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3317528 Para referência, esses são os chageset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808365 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808320 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18807980 Pretendo documentar a importação na wiki em breve. On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 09:35 -0500, Augusto Stoffel wrote: Há algum tempo eu falei em importar parques nacionais e outras áreas protegidas. Adicionei algumas unidades de conservação e uma terra indígena ao mapa (dados da base 250 mil do IBGE): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300492 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300496 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/243992224 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/244469951 Teríamos que decidir se a qualidade desses dados é suficiente para os nosso propósitos, e se as tags estão a contento (de acordo com https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area ). O principal refinamento a ser feito após a importação seria substituir os traçados que acompanham a orla de um rio ou oceano pelos traçados já existentes no OSM, usando uma relação (mas deixe as áreas acima como estão por enquanto para que os outros possam ver o original). Isso é algo que eu deixaria para as pessoas interessadas fazerem na redondeza das suas regiões. Adicionei a tag leisure=nature_reserve tanto aos parques quanto à terra indígena porque por ora o estilo padrão do OSM não renderiza a tag boundary=protected_area (e isso parece ser um bug aberto há anos). Quando isso for resolvido, aquelas tags podem ser removidas. Por fim, queria mencionar que eu estou tentando obter permissão para usar os dados do Ministério do Meio Ambiente e da FUNAI, que parecem ser um pouco mais completos que os do IGBE. Assim, talvez demore um pouco para eu começar a importação. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Dr. Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com Personal website https://sites.google.com/site/geraldweberufmg/ Departamento de Física/Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais Department of Physics/Federal University of Minas Gerais Campus da Pampulha Av. Antônio Carlos, 6627, 31270-901 Belo Horizonte, MG, Brazil mobile: +55-(0)31-96462277 (mudou/changed 02/07/2013) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] ICMBio
Esta mensagem é para registrar a resposta que obtive do ICMBio sobre a disponibilidade dos dados publicados por eles: Informo que os arquivos shapefile referentes aos limites das unidades de conservação federais, disponibilizados no site do ICMBio, na aba Serviços Geoprocessamento Mapa temático e dados geoestatísticos das UC ́s são considerados públicos e podem ser utilizados, desde que citada a fonte (vide ABNT). A comunicação completa com o ICMBio via e-SIC [1] está em anexo. Estou interpretando que está tudo OK para importar, e vou trabalhar nisso nas próximas semanas. As unidades de conservação possuem um número identificador do CNUC (Cadastro Nacional de Unidades de Conservação), que faria sentido manter em uma tag especial. Alguma preferência entre cnuc_id, ou cnuc:id, ou alguma outra? [1] http://www.acessoainformacao.gov.br/sistema/ report.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Áreas protegidas
Gerald, Eu acho que ajustar isso seria uma tarefa para quem conhece o local. Sem querer delegar trabalho para ninguém, eu sugiro que tu ou removas a área (posso fazer isso se quiseres), ou aproveite a oportunidade para traçar um contorno mais exato. Nota também que logo a oeste desse local existe uma área residencial dentro dos (supostos) limites da Área de Proteção Especial Córrego Taboão. Poderíamos retraçar a área para exibir os limites de facto da UC, ou manter os limites oficias. Acho que deveríamos adotar um critério geral para tratar casos como esse. Augusto. On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 08:14 -0200, Gerald Weber wrote: Oi Augusto Eu conferi uma área que eu conheço razoávelmente bem que é o Parque do Rola Moça em Nova Lima: http://osm.org/go/PAWd_mAl- Eu diria que basicamente não tem nada a ver com a área real do parque que é muito maior do que isto. A estrada secundária que você vê passando embaixo passa bem no meio do parque. abraço Gerald PS: eu concordo com o Fernando, você precisa criar um usuário específico para esta importação. 2013/11/9 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Acabei de fazer uma importação de unidades de conservação. Os dados vêm do arquivo LIM_UNIDADE_CONSERVACAO_NAO_SNUC_A.shp da base cartográfica escala 250 mil do IBGE, ou seja, são informações que (suponho) o MMA e o ICMBio não coleta. Esses dados parecem bem piores que os dados do ICMBio que eu pretendo processar em breve. Em algumas dados que particularmente ruins, eu adicionei um comentário na tag fixme. Sinta-se à vontade para fazer alterações ou deletar algo que pareça não fazer sentido. A maioria das unidades ficam no sudeste, em particular há várias no entorno de Belo Horizonte. Um caso que eu vou deixar para o pessoal da região da divisa SP/MS/PR decidir é a tal da Reserva Estadual Pontal do Paranapanema, que parece só existir em teoria (a área contém apenas fazendas): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3317528 Para referência, esses são os chageset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808365 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808320 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18807980 Pretendo documentar a importação na wiki em breve. On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 09:35 -0500, Augusto Stoffel wrote: Há algum tempo eu falei em importar parques nacionais e outras áreas protegidas. Adicionei algumas unidades de conservação e uma terra indígena ao mapa (dados da base 250 mil do IBGE): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300492 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300496 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/243992224 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/244469951 Teríamos que decidir se a qualidade desses dados é suficiente para os nosso propósitos, e se as tags estão a contento (de acordo com https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary% 3Dprotected_area ). O principal refinamento a ser feito após a importação seria substituir os traçados que acompanham a orla de um rio ou oceano pelos traçados já existentes no OSM, usando uma relação (mas deixe as áreas acima como estão por enquanto para que os outros possam ver o original). Isso é algo que eu deixaria para as pessoas interessadas fazerem na redondeza das suas regiões. Adicionei a tag leisure=nature_reserve tanto aos parques quanto à terra indígena porque por ora o estilo padrão do OSM não renderiza a tag boundary=protected_area (e isso parece ser um bug aberto há anos). Quando isso for resolvido, aquelas tags podem ser removidas. Por fim, queria mencionar que eu estou tentando obter permissão para usar os dados do Ministério do Meio Ambiente e da FUNAI, que parecem ser um pouco mais completos que os do IGBE. Assim, talvez demore um pouco para eu começar a importação. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Dr. Gerald Weber
Re: [Talk-br] ICMBio
Legal demais Augusto, parabéns por conseguir uma resposta, ainda mais positiva. abraço Gerald 2013/11/10 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Esta mensagem é para registrar a resposta que obtive do ICMBio sobre a disponibilidade dos dados publicados por eles: Informo que os arquivos shapefile referentes aos limites das unidades de conservação federais, disponibilizados no site do ICMBio, na aba Serviços Geoprocessamento Mapa temático e dados geoestatísticos das UC ́s são considerados públicos e podem ser utilizados, desde que citada a fonte (vide ABNT). A comunicação completa com o ICMBio via e-SIC [1] está em anexo. Estou interpretando que está tudo OK para importar, e vou trabalhar nisso nas próximas semanas. As unidades de conservação possuem um número identificador do CNUC (Cadastro Nacional de Unidades de Conservação), que faria sentido manter em uma tag especial. Alguma preferência entre cnuc_id, ou cnuc:id, ou alguma outra? [1] http://www.acessoainformacao.gov.br/sistema/ ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Dr. Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com Personal website https://sites.google.com/site/geraldweberufmg/ Departamento de Física/Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais Department of Physics/Federal University of Minas Gerais Campus da Pampulha Av. Antônio Carlos, 6627, 31270-901 Belo Horizonte, MG, Brazil mobile: +55-(0)31-96462277 (mudou/changed 02/07/2013) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] ICMBio
Ah faltou um detalhe, copiar não para a lista import e sim para a lista legal. Para a lista import vão dúvidas sobre a melhor forma de fazer a importação, como processar os dados, etc. 2013/11/10 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com Se entendi bem, essa informação cobre o território nacional inteiro, certo? Então vou ser um pouco mais exigente, até porque tivemos uma grande discussão sobre o assunto das licenças aqui na lista uns meses atrás.. Você perguntou a eles se a informação é de domínio público e eles responderam que a informação é considerada pública e que pode ser utilizada desde que seja citada a fonte. Ótimo, mas faltam duas coisas nessa afirmação: - ela não diz se você tem o direito de relicenciar e cobrar por serviços que disponibilizam esses dados (a licença ODbL permite) - ela não diz como a citação deve ser feita O OSM, por exemplo, exige que a citação seja feita sempre que qualquer parte da informação for apresentada, num lugar visível (sobre o mapa, ou bem próximo dele). Toda vez que você encontrar alguém usando os dados do OSM, repare que sempre há um overlay no mapa citando o OSM, ou um link pra uma página que cita o OSM (como no caso do Foursquare). Nos casos em que descobrimos que isso não foi seguido, entramos em contato e solicitamos que acrescentassem (aconteceu com a Folha e com o Globo no auge dos protestos). Se for esse o tipo de citação que o ICMBio espera (sempre visível), o lugar pra citar é esta página: http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright O mais seguro é verificar se eles estão de acordo com esse mecanismo de citação. Basta fazer isso uma vez. Citar nessa página significa copiar a mensagem deles pra lista import, traduzindo para o inglês, e explicando os pormenores pra comunidade internacional. Posso ajudar com isso. Se não acharem nenhum problema, acrescentarão um link para a sua mensagem aqui, pra poupar esse esforço todo no futuro: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources O outro mecanismo seria usar apenas a tag source em cada objeto importado. Com o IBGE, pra ter certeza absoluta, confirmamos se essa forma de atribuição era aceitável, ressaltando que: - a fonte não fica imediatamente visível - pro usuário descobrir a fonte, é necessário entrar no modo de edição e selecionar o objeto de interesse Eles aceitaram, e temos cópia da mensagem que diz isso, então estamos tranquilos. O ideal é que você confirme esses detalhes também. Imagino que lhe responderão com a mesma prontidão. Resolvido esse problema (sei que é chato), antes de fazer o upload, não esqueça de escrever no wiki um artigo sobre a importação (quais tags você removeu, quais você converteu e como, se houve alteração na geometria - não esqueça de aplicar o simplificador do JOSM). Daí nos passe o link pro artigo para conferirmos (lembre que é mais fácil consertar problemas - grandes ou pequenos - antes do upload que depois). É bem interessante também acrescentar no artigo links para as suas comunicações com eles. Ah, e não esqueça de usar um usuário específico para fazer a importação. 2013/11/10 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Esta mensagem é para registrar a resposta que obtive do ICMBio sobre a disponibilidade dos dados publicados por eles: Informo que os arquivos shapefile referentes aos limites das unidades de conservação federais, disponibilizados no site do ICMBio, na aba Serviços Geoprocessamento Mapa temático e dados geoestatísticos das UC ́s são considerados públicos e podem ser utilizados, desde que citada a fonte (vide ABNT). A comunicação completa com o ICMBio via e-SIC [1] está em anexo. Estou interpretando que está tudo OK para importar, e vou trabalhar nisso nas próximas semanas. As unidades de conservação possuem um número identificador do CNUC (Cadastro Nacional de Unidades de Conservação), que faria sentido manter em uma tag especial. Alguma preferência entre cnuc_id, ou cnuc:id, ou alguma outra? [1] http://www.acessoainformacao.gov.br/sistema/ ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] #1447: Render surface=unpaved differently from surface=paved
Só aproveitando (pode ser útil), eu não tinha reparado ainda que a camada Humanitarian muda a cor das vias principais quando não são pavimentadas. É exatamente o que queríamos no Mapnik. Na verdade, a camada Humanitarian me parece bem mais legível, equilibrada e até bonita (embora tenha baixo contraste). Notei também que o sistema tenta posições alternativas pros rótulos quando eles coincidem. Ou seja, me parece que tem tudo pra substituir o Mapnik um dia. -- Forwarded message -- From: OpenStreetMap t...@noreply.openstreetmap.org Date: Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [OpenStreetMap] #1447: Render surface=unpaved differently from surface=paved To: ava...@gmail.com, mapnik-t...@openstreetmap.org, ste...@mdx.ac.uk, mar...@gmail.com, ric...@nakts.net, gwebe...@gmail.com, li...@gimnechiske.org, fernando.treb...@gmail.com #1447: Render surface=unpaved differently from surface=paved --+--- Reporter: avarab@… | Owner: mapnik-team@… Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major| Milestone: Wishlist Component: mapnik |Version: Resolution: | Keywords: --+--- Comment (by Gerald Weber): It would be nice to know if we may expect some progress on this issue. A lot of people are (wrongly) mapping unpaved highways as track because of this. regards Gerald -- Ticket URL: https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1447#comment:19 OpenStreetMap http://www.openstreetmap.org/ OpenStreetMap is a free editable map of the whole world -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-de] Voting man_made=lamp
Moin, die Abstimmung zum Proposal man_made=lamp hat begonnen. Bis zum 23. November habt Ihr noch Zeit über das Detailmapping von Glühlampen abzustimmen. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/lamp Grüße Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wanderkarten von Russland
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 07:47:08AM +0100, jotpe wrote: Am 7. November 2013 09:36 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Die allereinfachste Variante ist MapOSMatic - Das sind zwar keine Wanderkarten aber sind halt Karten mit dem OSM Kartenstil. Wow, nach sowas habe ich schon lange gesucht... Gruß Johannes Das ganze ist im ueberigen Free Software/Open Source - und die Anleitung das ans laufen zu bringen auf eigenem Blech mit einer eigenen Datenbank ist exzellent. Ich selber nutze ocitysmap in der Firma auch um Uebersichtskarte von Baugebieten zu erzeugen. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] 1000 Hausnummern
Inzwischen haben es 2285 Personen (bzw. Accounts) geschafft, die von Frederik aufgerufenen 1000 Hausnummern in OSM einzutragen. Ende letzten Jahres waren es 1629. Die Zahl der Accounts, die mind. 100 Hausnummern eingetragen haben, ist um 2000 auf 8337 gewachsen. Die volle Liste gibt es hier inkl. der Veränderung zur Auswertung von Frederik: http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~fschmidt/housenumbers13.html Ich danke Jochen, dessen planet mir die Auswertung wesentlich erleichtert hat. Frohes Mappen trotz kalter Hände, Fabian.___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] 1000 Hausnummern
On 10.11.2013 22:39, Fabian Schmidt wrote: http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~fschmidt/housenumbers13.html Vielen Dank für diese hübsche Auswertung. Wieder ein kleiner Seelenstreichler für die vielen Stunden am Rechner. (Das Sammeln macht mehr Spaß. ;)) Planst du regelmäßige Updates der Liste? Gruß Thomas ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wanderkarten von Russland
Am 07.11.2013 09:36, schrieb Florian Lohoff: Die allereinfachste Variante ist MapOSMatic - Das sind zwar keine Wanderkarten aber sind halt Karten mit dem OSM Kartenstil. ich übersehe vermutlich das offensichtliche: Wie bringt man das Ding dazu, keine Pläne mit einem Gefühlten Seitenverhältnis 4:1 (Briefkastenschlitzformat) herzustellen? -jha- # Ce courriel et les documents qui lui sont joints peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou ayant un caractè privéS'ils ne vous sont pas destiné nous vous signalons qu'il est strictement interdit de les divulguer, de les reproduire ou d'en utiliser de quelque maniè que ce soit le contenu. Si ce message vous a é transmis par erreur, merci d'en informer l'expéteur et de supprimer imméatement de votre systè informatique ce courriel ainsi que tous les documents qui y sont attaché ** This e-mail and any attached documents may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, copying of this e-mail and any attachments thereto or use of their contents by any means whatsoever is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and all attached documents from your computer system. # ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] MapOSMatic Seitenverhältnis Was: Wanderkarten von Russland
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:29:01PM +0100, Johann H. Addicks wrote: Am 07.11.2013 09:36, schrieb Florian Lohoff: Die allereinfachste Variante ist MapOSMatic - Das sind zwar keine Wanderkarten aber sind halt Karten mit dem OSM Kartenstil. ich übersehe vermutlich das offensichtliche: Wie bringt man das Ding dazu, keine Pläne mit einem Gefühlten Seitenverhältnis 4:1 (Briefkastenschlitzformat) herzustellen? Die Karte enthaelt das was du angibst - bzw highlighted das. Es ist vom Seitenverhältniss auf dem Papier immer A3/A2/A1/A0 Je nachdem ob man noch eine einseitige oder atlasaehnliche Karte macht kommen da mehr oder weniger Seiten bei raus. Was auf der Karte drauf ist gibst du ja vorher an. Wenn du die Mosel haben willst dann wird das 4 mal so breit wie hoch ;) Moskau hingegen wird vermutlich so rund sein das es ein 1:1 Seitenverhältnis ist - Und dann auf A0 gepresst wird. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Standardizzazione toponimi bilingui della Sardegna ed adattamento al modello altoadesino
Il giorno 10 novembre 2013 06:57, Stefano Fraccaro postmas...@stefanofraccaro.org ha scritto: Mi sono preso un pò di tempo per affrontare il problema dal punto di vista informatico e umano con un pò di calma :-) La conclusione è che la situazione attuale alla fine dei conti è la migliore in quanto permette una tagging atomico per ogni lingua (name:*) pur prevedendo un tag name che potrebbe non essere atomico (atomico = 1 valore in 1 lingua) ma che permette di sapere cosa c'è on the ground. Analisi informatica : Se faccio un rendering per lingua vedrò comunque vuoti di informazione: per esempio in Africa i cartelli stradali non sono in italiano. Un rendering con più lingue con una scaletta di preferenza non è assolutamente gestibile con le risorse attuali e un rendering distribuito mi sembra pericoloso (fake tile) Il rendering Mapquest usa l'inglese di default.. Un rendering a livelli richiede un eccessivo lavoro lato server per comporre l'immagine oltre al problema di spazio su disco La composizione dell'immagine lato client ha problemi relativi a come i singoli browser implementano le specifiche css, spazio dei nomi, svg oltre al fatto che il client potrebbe essere un catorcio con poche risorse e quindi il lasso di tempo fra la ricezione dei dati e la rappresentazione a video potrebbe essere snervante. Sembra che la direzione sia quella comunque, anche Google è passata a far fare il rendering in gran parte al browser.. Analisi OSM: Esiste la regola generale di non mappare per il rendering Esiste la regola di mappare per quello che esiste sul territorio (on the ground) Conclusione: Continuiamo a mappare su name:* i valori nelle singole lingue e su name quello che c'è scritto sulla cartellonistica stradale. In questo modo chi vuole farsi la mappa solo italiano / solo inglese / solo quello che vuole... può farlo. Nel sito principale continuiamo a vedere quello che c'è on the ground. In effetti se una persona vede sul cartello 2/3 lingue è corretto che le veda anche su OSM. In questi casi inserirei anche i singoli dati su name:* . +1 Nel frattempo qualcuno prende decisioni senza leggere la lista :D http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18803872 http://goo.gl/maps/56DwY Per quanto riguarda l'obiezione dei navigatori o di altri strumenti che potrebbero avere problemi di visualizzazione (io stesso devo aver sollevato questo problema in passato) è pur vero che i navigatori si preparano le mappe e quindi in fase di elaborazione possono preferire il tag name:* a name : in sostanza il problema non si pone. Per quanto riguarda gli editor che supportano solo name e non name:* (possibile incongruenza di dati), chi mappa zone bi o trilingue userà un editor differente (Josm, iD, Vespucci non hanno di questi problemi). ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
io in quella zona ci sono stato. il problema è che essendo in mezzo al mare l'unico riferimento che posso usare sono ortofoto e/o tracce gps e/o coordinate di wikipedia ;P purtroppo all'epoca non ho fatto alcun rilevamento di distanza e direzione da punti utilizzabili successivamente come riferimento e quindi sono costretto ad appoggiarmi a indicazioni esterne :( - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Alcuni-articoli-Wikipedia-mappabili-in-OSM-tp5779830p5784820.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Interessante l'uso delle ortofoto PCN. come fai ad utilizzarle? non mi sembra che in josm siano presenti come layer fotografico, né negli altri editor osm - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Alcuni-articoli-Wikipedia-mappabili-in-OSM-tp5779830p5784823.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Latteria, quale etichetta?
dairy però sarebbe il caseificio, che non sempre corrisponde al negoziante al dettaglio di prodotti caseari -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Latteria-quale-etichetta-tp5759239p5784825.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013, Aury88 wrote: Interessante l'uso delle ortofoto PCN. come fai ad utilizzarle? non mi sembra che in josm siano presenti come layer fotografico, né negli altri editor osm In Josm è sufficiente aggiungerle. Preferenze-WMS, poi scegli le PCN dall'elenco principale e click sul bottone aggiungi. Ora le puoi selezionare dal menu a tendina delle foto aeree. Saluti! -- Enrico Piccinelli picc...@tiscali.it___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
2013/11/10 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com Interessante l'uso delle ortofoto PCN. come fai ad utilizzarle? non mi sembra che in josm siano presenti come layer fotografico, né negli altri editor osm si, sono presenti. Devi andare in impostazioni ed aggiungerli dai presets (in TMS/WMS). Puoi anche aggiungere un wms qualsiasi con questo dialogo. Trovi ulteriori informazioni nel wiki cercando PCN. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Ok, Grazie Enrico! Saluti Aury - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Alcuni-articoli-Wikipedia-mappabili-in-OSM-tp5779830p5784828.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura a Castelfranco Veneto
Ottimo! A meno di impegni lavorativi vengo volentieri a sentirti! Ciao! Leonardo Il 10/11/2013 07:01, Stefano Fraccaro ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, vi comunico con piacere che il comune di Castelfranco Veneto ha dato il patrocinio all'attività di mappatura sul territorio comunale (email dell'ufficio urbanistica, arriverà la comunicazione scritta a breve). In settimana distribuirò le locandine alle scuole e conto di tenere il primo appuntamento per mercoledi 18 dicembre 2013 in Patronato Pio X. Ulteriori dettagli a breve sulla lista veneta. Stefano Fraccaro ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Scusate, una domanda inerente al toolhttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/subpages/Musei_d%27Italia_per_regione.html: ci sono alcuni articoli che possiedono le icone ma non possiedono, ne l'icona e nemmeno . Cosa c'è da fare per quegli articoli? 2013/11/10 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com Ok, Grazie Enrico! Saluti Aury - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Alcuni-articoli-Wikipedia-mappabili-in-OSM-tp5779830p5784828.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 10/11/2013 14:44, Andrea De Gradi ha scritto: Scusate, una domanda inerente al toolhttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/subpages/Musei_d%27Italia_per_regione.html: ci sono alcuni articoli che possiedono le icone ma non possiedono, ne l'icona e nemmeno . Cosa c'è da fare per quegli articoli? ? - -- Simone Girardelli -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlJ/j/AACgkQoVS0hKoD3PMMaAD/adabMjHRZtNm12PJQJDHuAoE i/lT9zxHb/54r1AStmkA/2B30MfGyb4lgUnGs9D1hC2dgUe/KlottG9hA3TCbgWj =RB2Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
eh mi sa che la lista non supporta le immagini, ci sono degli articoli che possiedono le icone unohttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/wiwosm.png, due http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/josm.png, trehttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/osm.pnge quattrohttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/Overpass-turbo.pngma non possiedono ne questa icona http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/no_template.pnge nemmeno questa iconahttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/josm_load_and_zoom.png. Cosa c'è da fare per questi articoli? Il giorno 10 novembre 2013 14:53, girarsi_liste liste.gira...@gmail.comha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 10/11/2013 14:44, Andrea De Gradi ha scritto: Scusate, una domanda inerente al tool http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/subpages/Musei_d%27Italia_per_regione.html : ci sono alcuni articoli che possiedono le icone ma non possiedono, ne l'icona e nemmeno . Cosa c'è da fare per quegli articoli? ? - -- Simone Girardelli -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlJ/j/AACgkQoVS0hKoD3PMMaAD/adabMjHRZtNm12PJQJDHuAoE i/lT9zxHb/54r1AStmkA/2B30MfGyb4lgUnGs9D1hC2dgUe/KlottG9hA3TCbgWj =RB2Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Il giorno 10 novembre 2013 15:07, Andrea De Gradi dega...@gmail.com ha scritto: eh mi sa che la lista non supporta le immagini, ci sono degli articoli che possiedono le icone unohttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/wiwosm.png, due http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/josm.png, trehttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/osm.pnge quattrohttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/Overpass-turbo.pngma non possiedono ne questa iconahttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/no_template.pnge nemmeno questa iconahttp://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/img/josm_load_and_zoom.png. Cosa c'è da fare per questi articoli? Niente :-) Vuol dire che gli articoli sono a posto, ossia sono taggati in OSM e sulla loro pagina Wikipedia sono visibili le coordinate ed il link alla mappa. Se vuoi puoi aprirli in JOSM, per vedere come sono stati mappati ed eventualmente aggiungere dei dettagli. Ciao, Simone ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] capital
Fra i vari tag che sono stati usati per Oristano (1) vedo capital:6, ma non era solo una proposta (2) ? (1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18803872 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.9002lon=8.60143zoom=16 (2) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/capital Ciao Mario. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
2013/11/10 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: Interessante l'uso delle ortofoto PCN. come fai ad utilizzarle? non mi sembra che in josm siano presenti come layer fotografico, né negli altri editor osm http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Italy/PCN#JOSM ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Standardizzazione toponimi bilingui della Sardegna ed adattamento al modello altoadesino
Mi sono preso un pò di tempo per affrontare il problema dal punto di vista informatico e umano con un pò di calma :-) La conclusione è che la situazione attuale alla fine dei conti è la migliore in quanto permette una tagging atomico per ogni lingua (name:*) pur prevedendo un tag name che potrebbe non essere atomico (atomico = 1 valore in 1 lingua) ma che permette di sapere cosa c'è on the ground. Analisi informatica : Se faccio un rendering per lingua vedrò comunque vuoti di informazione: per esempio in Africa i cartelli stradali non sono in italiano. Un rendering con più lingue con una scaletta di preferenza non è assolutamente gestibile con le risorse attuali e un rendering distribuito mi sembra pericoloso (fake tile) Un rendering a livelli richiede un eccessivo lavoro lato server per comporre l'immagine oltre al problema di spazio su disco La composizione dell'immagine lato client ha problemi relativi a come i singoli browser implementano le specifiche css, spazio dei nomi, svg oltre al fatto che il client potrebbe essere un catorcio con poche risorse e quindi il lasso di tempo fra la ricezione dei dati e la rappresentazione a video potrebbe essere snervante. Analisi OSM: Esiste la regola generale di non mappare per il rendering Esiste la regola di mappare per quello che esiste sul territorio (on the ground) Conclusione: Continuiamo a mappare su name:* i valori nelle singole lingue e su name quello che c'è scritto sulla cartellonistica stradale. In questo modo chi vuole farsi la mappa solo italiano / solo inglese / solo quello che vuole... può farlo. Nel sito principale continuiamo a vedere quello che c'è on the ground. In effetti se una persona vede sul cartello 2/3 lingue è corretto che le veda anche su OSM. In questi casi inserirei anche i singoli dati su name:* . Per quanto riguarda l'obiezione dei navigatori o di altri strumenti che potrebbero avere problemi di visualizzazione (io stesso devo aver sollevato questo problema in passato) è pur vero che i navigatori si preparano le mappe e quindi in fase di elaborazione possono preferire il tag name:* a name : in sostanza il problema non si pone. Per quanto riguarda gli editor che supportano solo name e non name:* (possibile incongruenza di dati), chi mappa zone bi o trilingue userà un editor differente (Josm, iD, Vespucci non hanno di questi problemi). +1 Il Domenica 10 Novembre 2013 6:57, Stefano Fraccaro postmas...@stefanofraccaro.org ha scritto: Mi sono preso un pò di tempo per affrontare il problema dal punto di vista informatico e umano con un pò di calma :-) La conclusione è che la situazione attuale alla fine dei conti è la migliore in quanto permette una tagging atomico per ogni lingua (name:*) pur prevedendo un tag name che potrebbe non essere atomico (atomico = 1 valore in 1 lingua) ma che permette di sapere cosa c'è on the ground. Analisi informatica : Se faccio un rendering per lingua vedrò comunque vuoti di informazione: per esempio in Africa i cartelli stradali non sono in italiano. Un rendering con più lingue con una scaletta di preferenza non è assolutamente gestibile con le risorse attuali e un rendering distribuito mi sembra pericoloso (fake tile) Un rendering a livelli richiede un eccessivo lavoro lato server per comporre l'immagine oltre al problema di spazio su disco La composizione dell'immagine lato client ha problemi relativi a come i singoli browser implementano le specifiche css, spazio dei nomi, svg oltre al fatto che il client potrebbe essere un catorcio con poche risorse e quindi il lasso di tempo fra la ricezione dei dati e la rappresentazione a video potrebbe essere snervante. Analisi OSM: Esiste la regola generale di non mappare per il rendering Esiste la regola di mappare per quello che esiste sul territorio (on the ground) Conclusione: Continuiamo a mappare su name:* i valori nelle singole lingue e su name quello che c'è scritto sulla cartellonistica stradale. In questo modo chi vuole farsi la mappa solo italiano / solo inglese / solo quello che vuole... può farlo. Nel sito principale continuiamo a vedere quello che c'è on the ground. In effetti se una persona vede sul cartello 2/3 lingue è corretto che le veda anche su OSM. In questi casi inserirei anche i singoli dati su name:* . Per quanto riguarda l'obiezione dei navigatori o di altri strumenti che potrebbero avere problemi di visualizzazione (io stesso devo aver sollevato questo problema in passato) è pur vero che i navigatori si preparano le mappe e quindi in fase di elaborazione possono preferire il tag name:* a name : in sostanza il problema non si pone. Per quanto riguarda gli editor che supportano solo name e non name:* (possibile incongruenza di dati), chi mappa zone bi o trilingue userà un editor differente (Josm, iD, Vespucci non hanno di questi problemi). ___ Talk-it mailing list
Re: [Talk-it] capital
Am 10/nov/2013 um 16:19 schrieb Tiziano D'Angelo tiziano.dang...@gmail.com: Sbaglio o c'è admin_centre per indicare il capoluogo? si, ci sono 4 e 6 per province e regioni, volendo potremmo inserire anche 8 per capoluoghi di comuni. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] adesivi
ciao, vorrei fare una nuova stampa di massa di adesivi osm. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos mi rivolgo a voi per chiedervi: 1. quale dimensione preferite. 2. quale logo? quello italiano o quello internazionale? 3. quanti ne interesserebbero a testa? (farei pagare giusto la spedizione in busta. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: Dati stazioni elettriche di Terna
Circa il 95% delle substation del nord Italia le ho mappate io. Per questo volevo fare un cambio massivo. Saluti Fabrizio Il giorno 09 novembre 2013 18:33, alessandro zardo bredy...@yahoo.it ha scritto: Credo che questo lavoro sia da fare per piccole aree conosciute o se le hai fatte tu in quanto l'uso precedente è stato un po' ambiguo in passato, almeno così ho letto. Una risposta più precisa dagli esperti in materia, altrimenti lo avrebbero fatto a livello superiore. Vedrò se riesco avere notizie da chi ha scritto la proposta approvata. -- *Da:* Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com *A:* openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org *Inviato:* Sabato 9 Novembre 2013 18:24 *Oggetto:* Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: Dati stazioni elettriche di Terna Grazie delle segnalazioni. Ho corretto il wiki. Per la trasformazione di sub_station in substation pensavo di fare una query e una correzione massiva. Saluti Fabrizio Il giorno 08 novembre 2013 17:23, bredy bredy...@yahoo.it ha scritto: leggendo la pagina Piemonte/Stazioni_elettriche http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Piemonte/Stazioni_elettriche ho notato che sono ancora riportati i tag ormai deprecati station e sub_station. Sarebbe il caso di aggiornare. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Dati-stazioni-elettriche-di-Terna-tp5784343p5784681.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Certificazione_energetica_degli_edifici
2013/10/30 Mario Pichetti mario.piche...@gmail.com: Il 30/10/2013 21:41, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: Am 30/ott/2013 um 21:07 schrieb Mario Pichetti mario.piche...@gmail.com: Cosa ne dite di mettere la classe energetica http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificazione_energetica_degli_edifici. Cosa ne dici Martin.sicuramente ne sai qualcosa:-) in lombardia sono tutte disponibili come opendata, ma non so quanto senso abbia inserirle in osm https://dati.lombardia.it/dati/Ambiente/CENED%E2%80%93Certificazione-ENergetica-degli-EDifici/rsg3-xhvk -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] R: R: R: R: Dati stazioni elettriche di Terna
95% ? Da: Fabrizio Tambussa [mailto:ftambu...@gmail.com] Inviato: domenica 10 novembre 2013 19:07 A: alessandro zardo; openstreetmap list - italiano Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: Dati stazioni elettriche di Terna Circa il 95% delle substation del nord Italia le ho mappate io. Per questo volevo fare un cambio massivo. Saluti Fabrizio Il giorno 09 novembre 2013 18:33, alessandro zardo bredy...@yahoo.it ha scritto: Credo che questo lavoro sia da fare per piccole aree conosciute o se le hai fatte tu in quanto l'uso precedente è stato un po' ambiguo in passato, almeno così ho letto. Una risposta più precisa dagli esperti in materia, altrimenti lo avrebbero fatto a livello superiore. Vedrò se riesco avere notizie da chi ha scritto la proposta approvata. _ Da: Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com A: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Inviato: Sabato 9 Novembre 2013 18:24 Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: Dati stazioni elettriche di Terna Grazie delle segnalazioni. Ho corretto il wiki. Per la trasformazione di sub_station in substation pensavo di fare una query e una correzione massiva. Saluti Fabrizio Il giorno 08 novembre 2013 17:23, bredy bredy...@yahoo.it ha scritto: leggendo la pagina Piemonte/Stazioni_elettriche http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Piemonte/Stazioni_elettriche ho notato che sono ancora riportati i tag ormai deprecati station e sub_station. Sarebbe il caso di aggiornare. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Dati-stazioni-elettriche-di-Terna-tp5784343p5 784681.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] confuso: mappare gli alberi
un articolo su Flickr e i machine tags riguardo osm http://code.flickr.net/2009/09/28/thats-maybe-a-bit-too-dorky-even-for-us/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
Ciao On 2013-11-10 at 18:44:39 +0100, Simone Cortesi wrote: ciao, vorrei fare una nuova stampa di massa di adesivi osm. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos mi rivolgo a voi per chiedervi: 1. quale dimensione preferite. 2. quale logo? quello italiano o quello internazionale? 3. quanti ne interesserebbero a testa? (farei pagare giusto la spedizione in busta. ho forwardato la richiesta sulle mailing list di qualche LUG e ci sono già un paio di interessati, anche se ancora non hanno dato risposta a nessuna delle tre domande (salvo in un caso dire da auto). Appena arrivano un po' di ulteriori risposte le riferisco di qui. Credo che il numero dipenda anche dal prezzo, che a sua volta per`o dipende dal numero complessivo, e qui si entra in un bel deadlock, che converrà risolvere con l'algoritmo della faccia cattiva :) -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
A me piacerebbe averne qualcuno, diciamo 10 pezzi max. Lascio a te la scelta del formato e del logo. Grazie in anticipo. Ciao /niubii/ Il 10/nov/2013 18:45 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: ciao, vorrei fare una nuova stampa di massa di adesivi osm. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos mi rivolgo a voi per chiedervi: 1. quale dimensione preferite. 2. quale logo? quello italiano o quello internazionale? 3. quanti ne interesserebbero a testa? (farei pagare giusto la spedizione in busta. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
2013/11/10 Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com: ho forwardato la richiesta sulle mailing list di qualche LUG e ci sono già un paio di interessati, anche se ancora non hanno dato risposta a nessuna delle tre domande (salvo in un caso dire da auto). ok, arbitrariamente decidero' quando chiudere la call :) -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
Il giorno 10 novembre 2013 18:44, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: ciao, vorrei fare una nuova stampa di massa di adesivi osm. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos Bella idea :) mi rivolgo a voi per chiedervi: 1. quale dimensione preferite. 2,5 x 2,5 cm indicativamente 2. quale logo? quello italiano o quello internazionale? Vanno bene entrambi 3. quanti ne interesserebbero a testa? (farei pagare giusto la spedizione in busta. 10~25 per me e il GLug di cui faccio parte penso possano bastare. Buona serata, FraFra ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
2013/11/10 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: ciao, ciao simo vorrei fare una nuova stampa di massa di adesivi osm. ottima idea https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos mi rivolgo a voi per chiedervi: 1. quale dimensione preferite. indifferente 2. quale logo? quello italiano o quello internazionale? internazionale 3. quanti ne interesserebbero a testa? (farei pagare giusto la spedizione in busta. Boh, dipende dal prezzo comunque almeno una ventina li prenderei (me li puoi dare la prima volta che ci vediamo). Secondo me già che li facciamo possiamo chiedere ai prossimi organizzatori di OSMit se ne vogliono anche loro già per la conferenza, questo abbasserebbe i prezzi (tanto non vanno a male e da buon genovese quale sono ;-) ) -- -S -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
2013/11/11 rattorosso floydbar...@alice.it: 2. Internazionale, quello italiano mi sembra troppo poco riconoscibile. Pensi di mettere anche la scritta (tipo il logo in altro a sinistra su openstreetmap.org)? penso di mettere il link. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
2013/11/11 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Pensi di mettere anche la scritta (tipo il logo in altro a sinistra su openstreetmap.org)? simo falla mettere la scritta, ho già sbagliato una volta io ;-) intendi The Free Wiki World Map? o openstreetmap.org ? -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
2013/11/11 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: 2013/11/11 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Pensi di mettere anche la scritta (tipo il logo in altro a sinistra su openstreetmap.org)? simo falla mettere la scritta, ho già sbagliato una volta io ;-) intendi The Free Wiki World Map? o openstreetmap.org ? direi più importante openstreetmap.org. però magari metterei entrambi il primo sopra e il secondo sotto -- -S -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: R: Dati stazioni elettriche di Terna
Il giorno 10 novembre 2013 19:33, Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.itha scritto: 95% ? Si, ho mappato da elenchi Terna le stazioni di Piemonte, Valle d'Aosta, Liguria, Trentino AA, Veneto e FVG. Ne ho fatte un po' della Lombardia, prima o poi le finiro'. Saluti *Da:* Fabrizio Tambussa [mailto:ftambu...@gmail.com] *Inviato:* domenica 10 novembre 2013 19:07 *A:* alessandro zardo; openstreetmap list - italiano *Oggetto:* Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: Dati stazioni elettriche di Terna Circa il 95% delle substation del nord Italia le ho mappate io. Per questo volevo fare un cambio massivo. Saluti Fabrizio Il giorno 09 novembre 2013 18:33, alessandro zardo bredy...@yahoo.it ha scritto: Credo che questo lavoro sia da fare per piccole aree conosciute o se le hai fatte tu in quanto l'uso precedente è stato un po' ambiguo in passato, almeno così ho letto. Una risposta più precisa dagli esperti in materia, altrimenti lo avrebbero fatto a livello superiore. Vedrò se riesco avere notizie da chi ha scritto la proposta approvata. -- *Da:* Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com *A:* openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org *Inviato:* Sabato 9 Novembre 2013 18:24 *Oggetto:* Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: Dati stazioni elettriche di Terna Grazie delle segnalazioni. Ho corretto il wiki. Per la trasformazione di sub_station in substation pensavo di fare una query e una correzione massiva. Saluti Fabrizio Il giorno 08 novembre 2013 17:23, bredy bredy...@yahoo.it ha scritto: leggendo la pagina Piemonte/Stazioni_elettriche http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Piemonte/Stazioni_elettriche ho notato che sono ancora riportati i tag ormai deprecati station e sub_station. Sarebbe il caso di aggiornare. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Dati-stazioni-elettriche-di-Terna-tp5784343p5784681.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-se] Vad säger lagen om att flyga med drönare?
Är det inte helt och hållet förbjudet att ta bilder från en luftfarkost över Sverige? Eller har den lagen avskaffats? /Markus 2013/11/10 Karl Wettin karl.wet...@kodapan.se: Är det någon som har undersökt var, när och hur man får flyga med drönare för att fotografera? Jag har hört det viskas om att man inte får flyga över bebyggt område eller människor. Måste man kanske även höra av sig till kommunen eller liknande för att söka ett tillstånd? Finns det kanske rent av områden där man kan flyga utan ett tillstånd? Exempelvis är ön Ven i Öresund ett litet avgränsat område med mestadels åkermark och skulle drönaren sticka iväg helt vilt åker den i havet i stället för att potentiellt landa på någons huvud. kalle ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Vad säger lagen om att flyga med drönare?
Några relevanta länkar: http://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/Luftfart/Luftfartyg-och-luftvardighet/Obemannade-luftfartyg-UAS/ http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/om-myndigheten/tillstand/flygfotografering/ http://www.rcflyg.se/forum/cmps_index.php?s=ed82f08ce96e3647c6bf11b8b62da008pageid=sakerhetregler Markus; nej, det är inte förbjudet, sedan ett antal år, att flygfotografera. Däremot är spridningen fortfarande tillståndspliktig (vilket väl inte folk generellt bryr sig supermycket om). //Mattias 2013/11/10 Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com Är det inte helt och hållet förbjudet att ta bilder från en luftfarkost över Sverige? Eller har den lagen avskaffats? /Markus 2013/11/10 Karl Wettin karl.wet...@kodapan.se: Är det någon som har undersökt var, när och hur man får flyga med drönare för att fotografera? Jag har hört det viskas om att man inte får flyga över bebyggt område eller människor. Måste man kanske även höra av sig till kommunen eller liknande för att söka ett tillstånd? Finns det kanske rent av områden där man kan flyga utan ett tillstånd? Exempelvis är ön Ven i Öresund ett litet avgränsat område med mestadels åkermark och skulle drönaren sticka iväg helt vilt åker den i havet i stället för att potentiellt landa på någons huvud. kalle ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
[Talk-es] Edificios con distintas alturas
Hola compañeros, he empezado a lidiar con las etiquetas 3D de edificios, en particular las que genera la maravillosa herramienta cat2osm2. Voy a intentar describir un ejemplo. Supongamos un edificio de 10 plantas, un prisma rectangular simple. Pero en la terraza hay una pequeña parte techada, que no ocupa toda la planta del edificio. En la exportación de cat2osm tendremos dos vías cerradas, cada una con building:yes. La más pequeña está contenida en la que representa la planta del edificio. La etiqueta building:levels vale 10 y 11 respectivamente. La duda me viene porque el validador de JOSM da la advertencia Edificio dentro de un edificio. La wiki parece que aconseja usar la etiqueta building:part, pero reconozco que no me queda claro del todo. ¿Os parece que he de modificar el resultado de cat2osm2 para que JOSM no se queje? Espero vuestras sugerencias. Un saludo. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Edificios con distintas alturas
¿Os parece que he de modificar el resultado de cat2osm2 para que JOSM no se queje? Espero vuestras sugerencias. Lo que me parece es que nos deberías de pasar la página de la wiki donde explican eso para modificar cat2osm2 ;) porque es una de las cosas que creo que podemos resolver fácilmente. -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext 2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Edificios con distintas alturas
El 10 de noviembre de 2013 21:31, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez escribió: ¿Os parece que he de modificar el resultado de cat2osm2 para que JOSM no se queje? Espero vuestras sugerencias. Lo que me parece es que nos deberías de pasar la página de la wiki donde explican eso para modificar cat2osm2 ;) porque es una de las cosas que creo que podemos resolver fácilmente. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings Explicación más o menos resumida de lo que al parecer se consensuó respecto al 3D en edificios. [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:part ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Edificios con distintas alturas
Tócate los huevos, todos los cambios que hicimos al cat2osm2 para quietar las relaciones y leyendo en diagonal parece que ahora recomiendan que los edificios sean una relación... ¿Os parece que he de modificar el resultado de cat2osm2 para que JOSM no se queje? Espero vuestras sugerencias. Lo que me parece es que nos deberías de pasar la página de la wiki donde explican eso para modificar cat2osm2 ;) porque es una de las cosas que creo que podemos resolver fácilmente. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings Explicación más o menos resumida de lo que al parecer se consensuó respecto al 3D en edificios. [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:part -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext 2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-at] amenity=brothel
On 11/07/2013 10:52 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: On 07.11.2013 09:00, Norbert Wenzel wrote: Sexuelle Orientierung kann interessant sein und ist in AT wohl unkritisch. Ich würd nur generell aufpassen wo ich sowas eintrag um nicht möglicherweise schlafende Hunde zu wecken. Wer weiß schon immer wie die Nachbarschaft reagiert, wenn derartige Infos automatisiert such- und auswertbar sind. Das geht die Nachbarschaft nicht wirklich etwas an, und selbst wenn sie komisch reagiert, dann ist das deren Problem und nicht unseres. Der Zweck von OSM ist es nicht, Geodaten geheim zu halten, sondern sie allgemein verfügbar zu machen. Die Frage ist eher, ob es sich bei sexueller Orientierung überhaupt um Geodaten handelt, bzw. ob selber erfundene Tags dafür jemals irgendwer auswerten wird. Das müsste man international diskutieren, nicht in der AT-Mailingliste. Puffs sind doch keine österreichische Besonderheit. Nein, Geodaten sollen nicht geheim gehalten werden aber nein, sexuelle Orientierung gehört nicht zu den Geodaten, sondern nur zu den Details eines POI, so wie die Telefonnummer. Und so wie ich die Telefonnummer nicht eintrag, wenn ich sie nicht weiß oder ev. zu faul bin sie zu suchen, so erlaub ich mir auch Details wegzulassen, von denen ich annehm, dass sie zu Problemen führen könnten. Und in Österreich würd ich das nicht als Problem sehen, das hab ich ja geschrieben. Und ja, man *kann* Tags international diskutieren. Aber wenn Tagwatch und das Wiki ergeben, dass es bei einem Tag kein passendes Zusatztag gibt, warum sollte man es nicht erfinden? Ohne großartige Diskussion. Es kann ja der nächste Mapper genauso Tagwatch benutzen. Noch dazu wo ein gutes Tag ohnehin menschenlesbar ist, da macht es keinen Unterschied ob man ein theoretisch maschinenlesbares Tag erfindet, dass es dann ev. in mehreren Varianten gibt, die bei entsprechendem Interesse ja vereint werden können, oder ob das Tag von vornherein nicht als maschinenlesbar angelegt ist, weil es sich um eine description= oder note= handelt. lg, Norbert ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] Stolpersteine
Wie steht es eigentlich um die Eintragung der Stolpersteine? Wo in Österreich gibt es Orte mit Stolpersteinen? Wien, Salzburg, Graz, Mödling, Bezirk Braunau? ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Stolpersteine
Eintragungen in Salzburg wüsste ich auf die Schnelle nicht (ich habe sicher noch nie welche eingetragen...) Generell gibt es aber für Salzburg diese Seite: http://www.stolpersteine-salzburg.at/ Sollte sich also jemand in Salzburg in dieser Richtung hingehend bemühen wollen, wäre es sicher von Vorteil zuerst mit dem Initiator der Seite zu sprechen - vielleicht gibt es eine Datenspende... (auf deren Übersichtkarte sind auch alle Beschriftungen der Steine anzufinden - http://www.stolpersteine-salzburg.at/de/orte_und_biographien ) LG Thomas On 10.11.2013 15:25, martin ringer wrote: Wie steht es eigentlich um die Eintragung der Stolpersteine? Wo in Österreich gibt es Orte mit Stolpersteinen? Wien, Salzburg, Graz, Mödling, Bezirk Braunau? ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Stolpersteine
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:25:23 +0100 martin ringer martinrin...@hotmail.com wrote: Wie steht es eigentlich um die Eintragung der Stolpersteine? Wo in Österreich gibt es Orte mit Stolpersteinen? Wien, Salzburg, Graz, Mödling, Bezirk Braunau? mir ist im 3. bezirk gestern einer aufgefallen, der (vmtl) falsch getaggt ist: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?note=71109 -- Kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Stefan Tauner ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] amenity=brothel
Hi, On 06.11.2013 23:02, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: nicht, daß ich mich da jetzt auskennen würde, aber da könnte man(n) doch sicher weitere infos definieren, z.b. services_provided, (politisch korrekt) die sexuelle orientierung etc. Das Thema ist insofern ein bisschen heikel, als dass der Erfassungsgrad von Orten zur, vorwiegend maennlichen, Triebbefriedigung schon einmal benutzt worden ist, um OSM in einem Vortrag als frauenfeindlich hinzustellen, siehe diesen Thread hier: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2012-October/098861.html Die Autorin des betr. Vortrags hatte von OSM relativ wening Ahnung und hat die Ablehnung eines childcare-Tagging-Proposals etwas missverstanden. Auf der SOTM in Birmingham schlug Alyssa Wright, obwohl ihr in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-July/014122.html ff. die Hintergruende dieser Ablehnung erklaert worden waren, noch einmal medienwirksam in die gleiche Kerbe und stellte in Ihrem Vortrag Changing the Ratio of OpenStreetMap Communities (http://www.slideshare.net/apw217/changing-the-ratio) die Frage, wieso ein solches Proposal rejected wird, wenn wir zugleich neben biergarten, bar, pub, nightclub eifrig auch strip club, brothel und swinger club taggen. Ich finde, dass dem Projekt hier unrecht getan wird, aber ich kann schon nachvollziehen, wie nach aussen ein seltsamer Eindruck entstehen kann. Ja, natuerlich koennte man Informationen ueber den Angebotsumfang oder die spezielle Ausrichtung eines Laufhauses bei OSM eintragen, das waere - in gewissen Grenzen zumindest - weder anstoessig noch unpassend. Aber auch bei einem Kindergarten wuerden sich Eltern bestimmt dafuer interessieren, welche Paedagogik da verfolgt wird, ob es Mittagessen gibt, und ob auch Kinder genommen werden, die noch gewickelt werden muessen. Vielleicht koennte einfach jeder, der Details zu einem Puff erfasst, gleichzeitig Details zu zwei Kindergaerten eintragen ;) Bye Frfe -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-lv] Dienvidu tilts
Pie reizes par P90 šoseju - cik saprotu, viņa ir pabeigta, bet kā ar pārvadiem un pievedceļiem? Piemēram pie Ogresgala tās cilpas tur ir? Un vai joprojām pēc klasifikācijas tas ir primary ceļš? 2013/10/28 Jānis Ročāns janis.roc...@gmail.com Rīt beigsies, šodien vēl strādnieku mašīnas stāv aplī. 2013/10/28 pec...@gmail.com pec...@gmail.com DELFI ziņo ka esot viss pabeigts. OSMā viss ir aktualizēts? :) Lai sokas, Pēteris. ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv -- Jānis ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Outil d'intégration des adresses
Les adresses de la ville d'Orange sont toutes sur OSM. Pourtant, cette stat n’apparaît pas dans ton outils... - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Outil-d-integration-des-adresses-tp5784572p5784832.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Outil d'intégration des adresses
Je pense que le récapitulatif n'est lié qu'au villes pour lesquels l'outil d'intégration possède des données. Il y a bien plus de villes qui ont des adresses dans OSM ! Le 10 novembre 2013 13:26, Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Les adresses de la ville d'Orange sont toutes sur OSM. Pourtant, cette stat n’apparaît pas dans ton outils... - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Outil-d-integration-des-adresses-tp5784572p5784832.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Outil d'intégration des adresses
Est-ce qu'il y a une manière de voir quelques statistiques pour un tag en particulier en France ? Un truc simple comme une courbe du nombre total de tags addr:housenumber ferait bien l'affaire. En attendant j'ai contribué saisir les adresses des villages du Bas-Rhin à partir du cadastre. Je pense qu'en s'y mettant à plusieurs on devrait assez facilement être capable de finir tout le département avant la fin de l'année. Ca ferait un chouette sujet de communication. Avis aux intéressés ;) http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresseslon=7.76852lat=48.81699zoom=10overlays=buildings,buildings_with_addresses,nodes_with_addresses_defined,nodes_with_addresses_interpolated,no_addr_street,street_not_found 2013/11/10 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr Je pense que le récapitulatif n'est lié qu'au villes pour lesquels l'outil d'intégration possède des données. Il y a bien plus de villes qui ont des adresses dans OSM ! Le 10 novembre 2013 13:26, Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Les adresses de la ville d'Orange sont toutes sur OSM. Pourtant, cette stat n’apparaît pas dans ton outils... - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Outil-d-integration-des-adresses-tp5784572p5784832.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Ubuntu Party Paris - Atelier OSM
Bonsoir, Dans une semaine, le week-end du 16 et 17 Novembre aura lieu à la Cité des Sciences et de l'Industrie, Porte de la Villette, à Paris, la 13ème Ubuntu Party parisienne, la 13.10, Saucy Salamender, pour fêter cette nouvelle version. A cette occasion, de nombreuses conférences et ateliers sont organisés. J'y animerai un atelier et une conférence le samedi, la conférence ayant lieu de 16h à 16h30 (c'est une mini conférence, juste pour présenter le projet) , et l'atelier de 16h30 à 17h30 ou 18h (c'est selon l'avancée des élèves cartographes). L'atelier sera basé sur l'utilisation de iD (pour rendre très simple la contribution aux yeux des élèves). Ne pouvant être seul à répondre en même temps aux questions d'une dizaine voire vingtaine d'élèves, il est nécessaire que des contributeurs à OSM puissent venir m'aider. Tout contributeur à OSM est le bienvenu, qu'il soit expérimenté ou non. L'atelier sera basé sur la cartographie d'un coin d'Afrique, du Burkina Faso, dans la région de Koupéla, à partir d'images satellites. Pour venir m'aider, rien de plus simple: 1°) Se faire connaître en répondant à ce fil 2°) S'inscrire sur http://participer.ubuntu-paris.org en indiquant bénévole atelier OSM 3°) Venir le jour J. Si vous avez la moindre question, n'hésitez pas ;) Jean-Marc Gailis Ubuntu-fr Ubuntu-Paris Comité d'organisation des Ubuntu Party Parisiennes. Ubuntu Translator Team Mozilla Translator Team Think Global, Make Locales. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Outil d'intégration des adresses - Mulhouse
Le 07/11/2013 22:37, DH a écrit : Le 07/11/2013 22:08, Frédéric Rodrigo a écrit : http://addr.openstreetmap.fr/stats.php Et prochainement sur vos écrans : Mulhouse. Merci pour Mulhouse !! Enfin c'est pas gagné là. C'est le pire jeu de données d'adresses que j'ai vu en OpenData et je les ai quasiment tous traité en France et même pire qui celui de Flandre. 68015.00,BALDERSHEIM,ALPES,3.000,NULL,3 RUE DES ALPES,68390 68015.00,BALDERSHEIM,BANTZENHEI,3.000,B,3B RUE DE BANTZENHEIM,68390 Code INSEE avec 10 chiffres après la virgule, numéro de rue avec 15 chiffres après la virgule (on aime la précision à Mulhouse). Mais par contre pas d'identifiant unique de voie, ni même de champ avec uniquement le nom de la voie. Des fois il n'y pas non plus la forme complète et le code postal, on ne connait donc même pas le type de voie. Si quelqu'un a un contact avec eux, ça pourrait être l’occasion de discuter ! Frédéric. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Outil d'intégration des adresses - Mulhouse
Sur Nancy, j'ai remarqué des adresses avec comme numéro . ou .. :( Un petit nettoyage s'impose... Le 10 novembre 2013 18:57, Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 07/11/2013 22:37, DH a écrit : Le 07/11/2013 22:08, Frédéric Rodrigo a écrit : http://addr.openstreetmap.fr/stats.php Et prochainement sur vos écrans : Mulhouse. Merci pour Mulhouse !! Enfin c'est pas gagné là. C'est le pire jeu de données d'adresses que j'ai vu en OpenData et je les ai quasiment tous traité en France et même pire qui celui de Flandre. 68015.00,BALDERSHEIM,ALPES,3.000,NULL,3 RUE DES ALPES,68390 68015.00,BALDERSHEIM,BANTZENHEI,3.000,B,3B RUE DE BANTZENHEIM,68390 Code INSEE avec 10 chiffres après la virgule, numéro de rue avec 15 chiffres après la virgule (on aime la précision à Mulhouse). Mais par contre pas d'identifiant unique de voie, ni même de champ avec uniquement le nom de la voie. Des fois il n'y pas non plus la forme complète et le code postal, on ne connait donc même pas le type de voie. Si quelqu'un a un contact avec eux, ça pourrait être l’occasion de discuter ! Frédéric. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Outil d'intégration des adresses - Mulhouse
2013/11/10 Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com: (on aime la précision à Mulhouse) Ca doit être la proximité avec la Suisse... Pieren ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] osm.jp のレンダリング好評でした(KOF)
いいだです。 好評でうれしいです(*´ω｀*) 建物、タグのLEVELに関わらず立体的に描いている はい、いまのところそうなっています。 CartoCSSに移行すると、例えば [building:height] * 1px みたいな表現もできるようなのですが、 Mapnik XMLだとどうやって記述するのかちょっと不明です(^^; https://github.com/mapnik/mapnik/wiki/BuildingSymbolizer 立体建物は単純に格好良いので、将来的に OSM Buildings を組み込めればよいのかな、とは思っています。 (どなたか設置されたかたいます？) http://osmbuildings.org/ 出力するPOIを選択 POIをなにもレンダリングしない基盤レイヤを1つ作っておいて、 その上に、種類ごとに作成したPOIレイヤの表示を重ねてゆくことでできる気はしています。 name:enなど、name:* タグの表示切り替えを行なうのに、 ベクタタイルにするか、この方法にするか、 どちらかがいいのかなぁ、とは考えていますが、技術力がおっついてなくてスミマセン。 name:en だけを表示させるタイルをつくるのは早めにやりたいですね。 2013年11月10日 14:45 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp: On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 01:45:47PM +0900, ISHIKAWA Sachihiro wrote: 交差点の名前が出るのはいいですねぇ。日本では必須に近いPOIだと思うので、 是非標準にしてほしい。 最近では交差点の所(信号機)に付いている名前、英語名も ありますね。気がついたものは両方入れています。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] i-gotu GT-900Pro でGPSログ取ってみました．
としさん ご無沙汰しております。清野です。 腕時計型のGPSロガーを検討していたので、とても参考になります。 ありがとうございます。 ログを拝見させていただきましたが、かなりキレイでびっくりいたしました。 こんなにキレイに取れるんですね。 腕に付けた状態ですよね？すごいですね！ 腕時計型のGPSロガー、俄然欲しくなってきました！ ログを拡大して見てみるとGT-900の方はちょっとカクカクしているのが気になるところですね。 これはかつてForeAthlete101 (海外ブランドはForerunner) で見たようなカクカクさですね。 これってなんでこうなるんでしょうね…? あと、データをロガーからダウンロードするためのツールですが、 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BT747 http://www.bt747.com/ こちらのツールも見てみてください。 MediaTek (MTK) のチップセット用のツールですが、もしかしたら使えるかもしれません。 SiRF Starだと無理かな…。 ちなみにbt747はdebianでも使えます。 電池のもちもこのタイプのGPSロガーでは重要になってくると思うのですが、 値段と関係して安かろう悪かろうみたいな状態みたいですね。 できれば丸一日つけっぱなしにしていても充電しなくて良くて、 精度も高いものがあるといいですね。 2013年11月10日 15:54 Toshihisa Tanaka tosih...@netfort.gr.jp: としです． KOFで腕時計型のGPSロガー i-gotu GT-900Pro が販売されていたので， 購入して自作GPSロガーと測り比べをしてみました． 結論としては，i-gotu GT-900Pro のGPXログには精度が記録されないものの， 位置精度はLCD画面を見ると2mまで良い時があるので，マッピングする時の メインGPSロガーとして使えると思いました． ＃私個人は，あくまで自作GPSロガーがメインですが（汗 このあたりの事を，Wikiページに書きつつあります． https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Tosihisa/GPS_comparison ではこれにて． ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] i-gotu GT-900Pro でGPSログ取ってみました．
としです． ご無沙汰しております。清野です。 ご無沙汰しています． ログを拝見させていただきましたが、かなりキレイでびっくりいたしました。 こんなにキレイに取れるんですね。 はい． 試す前までは，正直なところ，半信半疑と言うか，まぁGPS位置は暴れるかも... と思っていましたが，こうもキレイにログが取れるとは思いもよりませんでし た． 腕に付けた状態ですよね？すごいですね！ はい． 普通に腕時計と同じようにつけて，普通に歩いてログを取りました． ログを拡大して見てみるとGT-900の方はちょっとカクカクしているのが気になるところですね。 これはかつてForeAthlete101 (海外ブランドはForerunner) で見たようなカクカクさですね。 これってなんでこうなるんでしょうね…? 私も分からないですが，恐らくはGPSモジュールのフィルタ処理によるものかも 知れません． あと、データをロガーからダウンロードするためのツールですが、 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BT747 http://www.bt747.com/ こちらのツールも見てみてください。 お知らせありがとうございます． BT747 はまだ試していないのですが，igotu2gpx-0.3.0.tar.gz をダウンロード すると，HACKING と言うファイルがあって，プロトコル仕様が(恐らくは分かる 範囲で)書いてあるので，これをベースにプログラムを書いてみると良いかなと 思っています． ＃問題は私が時間があまり取れない事ですが(汗 電池のもちもこのタイプのGPSロガーでは重要になってくると思うのですが、 値段と関係して安かろう悪かろうみたいな状態みたいですね。 できれば丸一日つけっぱなしにしていても充電しなくて良くて、 精度も高いものがあるといいですね。 この GT-900Pro で，ちょっとよく分からないのが電池の持ちなのです． (箱とかマニュアルを読んでも，どれくらい動くのか書いてなさそうなのです) どれくらいの時間動くのかは，ちょっと試してみたいと考えています． ＃が，これまた時間が取れるかどうか...(汗 ではこれにて． ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] osm.jp のレンダリング好評でした(KOF)
丸市です。 KOFで、レンダラの比較の話題をしていました。 ブースに凝られた方向けの地図のスタイルを見てもらおうと言うことと、 「テーマ別の地図が作れるますよ」と言う提案をしていました。 OpenStreetMap を使ったレンダラで可能な地図の例) ・ハイキングや登山とかバスルートなどの交通系のマップ ・マップ上のオブジェクトを指定しての表示とかできますよ…。 ↓オブジェクトを指定しての表示例 (しまなみ海道サイクリングロード) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=2236106#map=11/34.2572/133.0901 (2013年11月10日 12:03), Toshihisa Tanaka wrote: としです． KOF で osm.jp のレンダリングが話に登りまして，好評でした． 殆どは広島から来られた丸市さんに教えていただいたのですが， 交差点の名前が出てくる（これはかなりありがたい）のと， 建物が立体的(※)に描かていているのが良いです． ※：これは後で知りましたが，タグのLEVELに関わらず立体的に描いているようですね． 私自身，日本のOSM地図においては，osm.jp のレンダリングを推したいです！． ではこれにて． レンダラ比較の話していた内容の概略をまとめると、こんな感じになります。 主に比較したのは、下記のサイトです。 OpenStreetMap - http://www.openstreetmap.org/ ・標準 ・サイクリングマップ ・交通マップ ・MapQuest Open ・Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Japan - http://osm.jp/map ・OSM Japan ・OSM Mapnik OpenStreetBrowser - http://www.openstreetbrowser.org/# OpenCycleMap - http://www.opencyclemap.org/ ・OpenCycleMap ・Transport ・Landscape ・Outdoors OpenMapSurfer - http://openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de/ ・OSM Roads(New) ・OSM Mapnik 他 新宿駅付近 http://openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de/?zoom=17lat=35.68946lon=139.69658layers=B00FFTT 広島市中心部 http://openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de/?zoom=17lat=34.3953lon=132.45758layers=B00FFTT # 特定の例を示しているのは、3D 表示の関係です。 これらの中で交差点名表示がされるのが、OSM Japan と OpenMapSurfer の2つです。 # これより前は、「日本の県道一覧 - http://altcva.main.jp/pref/」のみ # だったかと…。 OpenMapSurfer のみ building:levels で 階数での 3D 表示されます。 # height にかんしては、未確認。 OSM Japan と OpenCycleMap(Outdoors) は、建物が 3D で表現される。 building:levels での階数表示には未対応。 OpenMapSurfer では、街路樹並木のウェイ(natural=tree_row)が表示される。 OpenStreetBrowser は、設定すると最高速度表示やリンクの表示も可能です。 OSM Japan の道路の表示は、幅が mapnik に比べて細く設定されているよう なので、日本の市街地を表現するには最適と思います。 # 特に建物を多く描かれていたマッパーさんには絶賛されました。 などと言った点を触れました。 # 今、現在のもので、それぞれのレンダラも変わって行っています。 石川さんが書かれていた、以下の点ですが。 いつか、設定で表示するPOIを選べるようなレンダラ出てこないかと思ってま すが、もしかしたら設定インタフェー スさえ 追加できたら実現できるような作りなんでしょうか？ OpenStreetBrowser では、ある程度実現で着ている部分があるかと思います。 # 例にあげた最高速度表示など…。 文章としてまとまりがなくなってしまいました。 すみません。 最後に OSM Japan で1点要望が、あります。 mapnik に比べて道路幅が mapnik に比べて細くなった分だけ、 「highway=turning_circle」が大きくなってしまったので、zoom=15 では 大きすぎるかと思います。(このレベルでは表示しない方が良いかも…) --- 丸市 展之（hfd03...@nifty.ne.jp) ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] OsmAndのキャッシュってクリヤする方法あるんでしょうか
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 10:15:00AM +0900, ribbon wrote: SDカードの osmand - tiles - Mapnik にタイル画像が格納されていますので、その配下のファイルを消せば幸せになれる、はず。 とりあえずこれでうまくいきました。 と思ったんですが、やはりなんか変ですね。 しばらく使うとオンラインからデータを落とすところでずっと待っている ようになってしまいます。いつまで経っても地図が表示されない。 OsmAndは表示面積が広くて使いやすいのですが、 Locusの方に切り替えようかなあ。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] Busan入れてます
三浦です。 私も釜山に行く予定があります。残念ながらマッピングする時間はなさそうです。 折角の成果を活用させてもらうと思います。 アジア向けに、中国語、韓国語を含めたマップができると良さそうです！ ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp wrote: ちょっと行ってきたので、Busan(釜山)入れてます。 1) 主要道路、鉄道はだいたい入っています。 2) 建物はほとんど入っていません。 3) POIも余り入っていません。なぜか病院は多いです。 4) wayのsourceタグはあまり入っていません。 5) 名前については当然ながらハングルです。が、ハングル(英語)がとても多いです。 6) name:en とかのタグは相当入っています。 7) Bingの写真はありますが、斜めになっていて使いにくいです。 主要部分の道路はかなり広く、名古屋みたいな感じです。 超高層の建物が多いですね。 古い建物と新しい建物が結構混在しています。 oota ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] 公園内の広場のタグ付け
公園内の芝生広場みたいなのはlanduseかなあと思います。自身は、遊具のあるあたりは、playgroundで入れる程度になってます。 三浦 -- rom my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] osm.jp のレンダリング好評でした(KOF)
三浦です。 db再度インポートするのは、やぶさかではないですが、その処理中は、レンダリングできなくなるなど 副作用が大きいので dbを2面持つとか、工夫が必要です。 サーバも一台なので、SPOFになりますし、引き続きサーバ提供は、 募集します。 デザインを変えたときの切り替えですが、負荷が高いので、 例えば週単位のバッチ処理や、地区を区切った更新をさせてもらえればと思います。 Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com wrote: いいだです。 https://github.com/osmfj/mapnik-stylesheets ズームレベルによってはキャッシュが残っていますので、適度に参照ください。 http://osm.jp/map P.S. 建物の高さですが、MapnikのSymbolizerでも、 * で計算できるみたいですね。 いまのosm.jpでやるにはDBの再インポートが必要になってしまうのですが、 手元のサーバでどんなかんじになるか、やってみたいとおもいます。 2013年11月10日 23:58 石川さんが書かれていた、以下の点ですが。 いつか、設定で表示するPOIを選べるようなレンダラ出てこないかと思ってま すが、もしかしたら設定インタフェー スさえ 追加できたら実現できるような作りなんでしょうか？ OpenStreetBrowser では、ある程度実現で着ている部分があるかと思います。 # -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] Busan入れてます
Welcome to Korea! My name is Andrew and I have been mapping a lot in Korea. Unfortunately there are very few mappers working in Korea. Our progress is slow but steady. If you have any suggestions to improve the map, or how to encourage more people to become mappers, please tell me. よろしくお願いします. Andrew 2013/11/6 Hiroshi Miura(osmf) miur...@osmf.jp: 三浦です。 私も釜山に行く予定があります。残念ながらマッピングする時間はなさそうです。 折角の成果を活用させてもらうと思います。 アジア向けに、中国語、韓国語を含めたマップができると良さそうです！ ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp wrote: ちょっと行ってきたので、Busan(釜山)入れてます。 1) 主要道路、鉄道はだいたい入っています。 2) 建物はほとんど入っていません。 3) POIも余り入っていません。なぜか病院は多いです。 4) wayのsourceタグはあまり入っていません。 5) 名前については当然ながらハングルです。が、ハングル(英語)がとても多いです。 6) name:en とかのタグは相当入っています。 7) Bingの写真はありますが、斜めになっていて使いにくいです。 主要部分の道路はかなり広く、名古屋みたいな感じです。 超高層の建物が多いですね。 古い建物と新しい建物が結構混在しています。 oota Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US: CDPs
On 11/10/13 1:37 AM, Elliott Plack wrote: In Baltimore County, MD, we have 0 incorporated towns with nearly 1M people. There are however plenty of informal towns that have become CDPs. I believe the Census uses ZCTAs to construct the CDPs, so they're based on ZIP Codes, which in turn are based on postal routes. maybe in MD, but not here in upstate NY. i have an Averill Park zip code, but am a mile or so outside of the Averill Park CDP. richard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Railroads and Railroads (Historic)
Hello got some questions about Railroads, I have a passion for the preservation of railroads and the maps surrounding them. I both update current map data with a line per each track. Track is in most cases two rails attached by a sleeper or tie. I have over 10,000 edits over on GMM and under 4,000 with OSM. I am mostly coming to ask about historic railroads and how to map them. In my area we have lots of rail trails, these trails mostly have been mapped by bicycle=yes foot=yes highway=cycleway horse=yes name=John Wayne Pioneer Trail note=railway=abandoned indicates a rail-trail old_railway_operator=Milwaukee railway=abandoned Ect.. Is this the way that we should be mapping these as there are historic attributes. For instance we could add. historic=ruins ruins=railroad or we could remove railway=abandoned but in this case the railroad is rail banked and could be brought out of abandoned status. We have other routes in the state that are not rail banked and are historic and are not seen as abandoned. Best Regards, Nathan Proudfoot email: n.pf...@gmail.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] battlegrid down
and we're back up. Sorry for the inconvenience. My total lack of web server configuration skills finally caught up with me. We're good now. Also, MapRoulette is back to connectivity errors (of which, it turns out, we have another fresh 20k to fix...) until we (yes, that's you :) come up with something new. There's a fair amount of good ideas on the wiki as well as on my blog, I just need to pick something that's easy to implement while we continue our quest to get v2 out the door... Meanwhile. Why not head to http://maproulette.org/ and fix a few! Martijn On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hey all, The battle grid is currently down for mysterious reasons. I will investigate tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience! -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] battlegrid down
Just a big thank you for all the work you put into these tools. They make finding and fixing problems hidden in plain sight a lot easier, and more fun. Dale Dale Puch On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: and we're back up. Sorry for the inconvenience. My total lack of web server configuration skills finally caught up with me. We're good now. Also, MapRoulette is back to connectivity errors (of which, it turns out, we have another fresh 20k to fix...) until we (yes, that's you :) come up with something new. There's a fair amount of good ideas on the wiki as well as on my blog, I just need to pick something that's easy to implement while we continue our quest to get v2 out the door... Meanwhile. Why not head to http://maproulette.org/ and fix a few! Martijn On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hey all, The battle grid is currently down for mysterious reasons. I will investigate tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience! -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Railroads and Railroads (Historic)
On 11/10/2013 03:30 PM, nathan proudfoot wrote: Hello got some questions about Railroads, I have a passion for the preservation of railroads and the maps surrounding them. I both update current map data with a line per each track. Track is in most cases two rails attached by a sleeper or tie. I have over 10,000 edits over on GMM and under 4,000 with OSM. I am mostly coming to ask about historic railroads and how to map them. In my area we have lots of rail trails, these trails mostly have been mapped by bicycle=yes foot=yes highway=cycleway horse=yes name=John Wayne Pioneer Trail note=railway=abandoned indicates a rail-trail old_railway_operator=Milwaukee railway=abandoned Ect.. Is this the way that we should be mapping these as there are historic attributes. For instance we could add. historic=ruins ruins=railroad or we could remove railway=abandoned but in this case the railroad is rail banked and could be brought out of abandoned status. We have other routes in the state that are not rail banked and are historic and are not seen as abandoned. Best Regards, Nathan Proudfoot email: n.pf...@gmail.com mailto:n.pf...@gmail.com We probably need a value such as railway=inactive for routes that are not in use, but still have the rails in place. The only problem is that, if someone erroneously tags an active but little-used route as inactive, this could lead to an accident if someone went hiking or rail-biking on the route. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. attachment: john.vcf___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Railroads and Railroads (Historic)
On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 18:26 -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: We probably need a value such as railway=inactive for routes that are not in use, but still have the rails in place. The only problem is that, if someone erroneously tags an active but little-used route as inactive, this could lead to an accident if someone went hiking or rail-biking on the route. The wiki suggests, and I have seen frequently used, railway=disused -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Railroads and Railroads (Historic)
John, As listed by James we have, railway=disused I would not encourage hiking or rail-biking any of these routes as they are in question by the tag of disused and most of these are still going to be private property. Once abandoned it is no longer a railroad per-say. Best Regards, Nathan Proudfoot email: n.pf...@gmail.com On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:26 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote: On 11/10/2013 03:30 PM, nathan proudfoot wrote: Hello got some questions about Railroads, I have a passion for the preservation of railroads and the maps surrounding them. I both update current map data with a line per each track. Track is in most cases two rails attached by a sleeper or tie. I have over 10,000 edits over on GMM and under 4,000 with OSM. I am mostly coming to ask about historic railroads and how to map them. In my area we have lots of rail trails, these trails mostly have been mapped by bicycle=yes foot=yes highway=cycleway horse=yes name=John Wayne Pioneer Trail note=railway=abandoned indicates a rail-trail old_railway_operator=Milwaukee railway=abandoned Ect.. Is this the way that we should be mapping these as there are historic attributes. For instance we could add. historic=ruins ruins=railroad or we could remove railway=abandoned but in this case the railroad is rail banked and could be brought out of abandoned status. We have other routes in the state that are not rail banked and are historic and are not seen as abandoned. Best Regards, Nathan Proudfoot email: n.pf...@gmail.com We probably need a value such as railway=inactive for routes that are not in use, but still have the rails in place. The only problem is that, if someone erroneously tags an active but little-used route as inactive, this could lead to an accident if someone went hiking or rail-biking on the route. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
