Re: Mailto Changed with Upgrades
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:28:54 -0700 "Michael S. Greenbaum" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reinstalled nsproto.exe and all seems to be fine. However, to help me in the future, which of these upgrades would have been responsible for the change in my mailto setup: TB or Netscape or both? This would be Netscape, it is notorious for grabbing associations, just running it without setting it as the default caused Netscape to be the default for News, Mail and HTML editing on my system. Even worse Netscape removed the Frontpage option completely from Internet Options | Programs uninstalling was the only remedy. I suggest you stick to Mozilla or Opera -- Mark Aston http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/linux_links -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:37:15 -0500 Dave Braze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did actually work in the way you suggest. One possibility would be for the icon to animate only if there are new messages since the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the developers will take notice I recently commented on this on TBOT, the way Becky does this is to animate the tray icon until the program has been maximised, much more useful IMHO -- Mark Aston -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cannot Download
Re-sent Hi Dierk, Saturday, February 17, 2001, 5:48:43 PM, you wrote: I hope I remember that right, I think MSN uses a proprietary password mechanism (like Hotmail?!) which is implemented only in - want to try yourself? - right, OE and its cousin. You are correct, they use SPA (Secure Password Authentication) There is a workaround, which I actually don't know exactly, but it has to do with a third-party-product like Hamster. For details - if I am right - other members of this list might be more useful. IIRC Agent can use SPA, otherwise changing ISP might be the better option, unless M$ release the source (!!?) TB! will not be able to implement SPA, and probably would not want to for one awkward ISP. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Importing Outlook Contacts
Hi Jannik, Friday, February 16, 2001, 6:46:07 AM, you wrote: PC Ok, there has to be a way for a new Bat user like me to import all my PC outlook contacts into TB all at one time. Go to the Ritlabs beta-page and download the tool called "Wab2Ldif". It converts the standard windows AB-format to the Ldif-format used by TB: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html This will convert from Outlook Express *.wab format not Outlook, first import to OE from OL to use the convertor. Additionally the pst-wab conversion will not take place in OE if OL is used in Internet Mode Only, it will only work if OL is used in corporate mode. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Importing Outlook Contacts
Hi Thomas, Friday, February 16, 2001, 9:13:05 AM, you wrote: Wow. Someone told me the MS products are for people who know not much about computers. I have never used OL or OE, but what you say there sounds so complicated that I'd rather use The Bat!. Thanks for scaring me off of MS. MS certainly don't encourage you to change MUA's, there are people forced to use OE if they have a Microsoft Network account, as the Secure Password Authentication is proprietary to OE. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Importing Outlook Contacts
Hi Jannik, Friday, February 16, 2001, 2:54:44 PM, you wrote: Apparently the original problem has now been solved - but for the sake of the general TB-enlightenment I add another address. This is to a beta-version of a programme - called "Dawn" - that *will* export from OL to TB (and from and to myriads of other AB's): http://www.internettrash.com/users/zakharin/ Excellent tip, looks like a neat program, perhaps there should be a link from TB! FAQ -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Importing Outlook Contacts
Hi , Friday, February 16, 2001, 3:33:13 PM, you wrote: beta-version of a programme - called "Dawn" - that *will* export from OL to TB (and from and to myriads of other AB's): http://www.internettrash.com/users/zakharin/ Excellent tip, looks like a neat program, perhaps there should be a link from TB! FAQ Seems I spoke too soon, just tried this app and it didn't work on the 2 tests I gave it. OLLDIF and LDIFPegasus In both cases it produced a zero byte file and closed down. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cannot access RIT Labs Web site
Hi Thomas, Tuesday, February 13, 2001, 4:02:17 AM, you wrote: I can still reach them from Asia. I checked, and I am not going via any proxy or cache or whatever. A DNS lookup resulted in: No access from London UK Pinging www.ritlabs.com [198.78.172.135] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 198.78.172.135: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms -- Best regards, Mark http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cannot access RIT Labs Web site
Hi Thomas, Tuesday, February 13, 2001, 7:23:59 AM, you wrote: Funny; I get the same ping results as you. And yet (now I tried it with Netscape 4.7 instead of IE 5.5), I can open the web page. It even wants to set a cookie! Maybe it's a cached copy? If you can't ping the site the server is down. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide I don't think you could get a clue, even if you were soaked in clue musk and let loose during the clue mating season:-) Using The Bat! 1.49c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: import from Calypso?
Hi Hilary, Sunday, January 14, 2001, 1:11:24 AM, you wrote: Is it possible to import messages and address book entries from Calypso into The Bat? I'm assuming the answer yes, so how can I do that? Calypso isn't listed on the "Import Mailboxes" menu. Use the Archive facility in Calypso, this saves messages in a Unix mailbox format, then import to TB! -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cookies (was:Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)
Hi Thomas, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 4:05:06 AM, you wrote: MA Thanks, unfortunately that was the one file which got corrupted when I MA did a CD backup. Windows reports an "Error performing inpage MA operation" whatever that is. I never saw this error. Does anybody know what this means? I finally found it on M$ Knowledgebase Q141117 seems to be an I/O read error, in other words my CD was corrupted As for the cookie file, I don't understand your question. You define the cookie file, for example by using the macro: %Cookie="E:\stuff\cookies.txt" You *can* define the cookie file or you can just paste cookies into the box under Account Properties, which is what I did. Karin was correct and the actual text is contained within the account.cfg file. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cookies (Was: Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)
Hi Andrey, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 6:46:24 AM, you wrote: MA Thanks, unfortunately that was the one file which got corrupted when I MA did a CD backup. Windows reports an "Error performing inpage MA operation" whatever that is. Try to restore this file from the probably faulty CD under MS-DOS (or so-called WinDOS) with ah appropriate support for your CD-ROM drive (driver file an mscdex.exe loaded). No proper DOS here as I'm using Win2k but I will try under Linux. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hi Douglas, Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 4:46:12 PM, you wrote: Others were more important but my answers include the heart, guts and bones of the original. (I can't resist doing that). While we're on guts and bones, does you know which file TB! stores cookie lines? -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hi Karin, Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 5:48:19 PM, you wrote: does you know which file TB! stores cookie lines? In account.cfg . Thanks, unfortunately that was the one file which got corrupted when I did a CD backup. Windows reports an "Error performing inpage operation" whatever that is. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Saving a TB! installation to CD
Hi Tim, Saturday, December 30, 2000, 2:43:17 AM, you wrote: Well, Everything worked splendidly for the backup and restore (under Tools) using TB v1.48f. Only one problem... None of my filters/rules are to be found! What is up with that?... Confirmed, tried it a few days ago with 1.48f all filters were lost -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48h Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New to the BAT, virus question
Hi Thomas, Monday, December 25, 2000, 6:43:04 PM, you wrote: MDP It doesn't need to. You don't get *infected* by a virus until it is MDP executed. This is a fact. It has been executed. Not triggered by me double-clicking on it. I am the only one who has access to my TB. A HTA file is a HTML Application - file type that appears after installing Internet Explorer 5.0. A HTA file cab contain regular HTML text with scripts inside but when executed it runs as standalone application - without Internet Explorer shell. This gives the possibility to write powerful applications using regular scripts inside HTML. This HTA file, in your case runme.hta is created when the worm is activated, this is done by viewing the infected page in IE, OE or any application which can execute Javascript. If you have not opened the infected page you will not be infected as such, but of course your Real Time virus scanner will have spotted the malicious code and warned you of its' existence, background scanners take a while to scan all your drives so the warning could be seen some time after the infected file is received, as you say whilst you were off-line. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48f Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to export email account to outlook 2000?
Hi Thomas, Friday, December 22, 2000, 5:39:58 AM, you wrote: Yes. I have a little utility program for that; it's called NAVIDAD.EXE. I can send it to you, and then you run it. Reboot your computer. Outlook will magically receive an own consciousness and you don't need to do anthing any more! Outlook will work unattended. :-) Unfortunately, this utility program does not work with The Bat!, though. :-( ROTFLMAO! There are lots of others too with much cuter names like Happy99 and Melissa -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48f Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
send bug?
Hi TBUDL, Reply to a message, hit Send the Letter, then Cancel. Open message in outbox, this time click Put the Letter in Outbox. Click on drop down for Get New Mail, select Send+Check for all TB! says "Nothing to Send" and leaves the mail in the outbox. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide "You left them alone in a room with a penguin?! Mr Gates, your men are already dead." Using The Bat! 1.48f Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to export email account to outlook 2000?
Hi Frederic, Friday, December 22, 2000, 2:27:36 PM, you wrote: So, is there a technique to export my mail or not ? Do I have to pass by another email program (like Eudora for example) before exporting to outlook ? Merry Christmas and happy new year to you all ! Obviously not much sympathy here for your problem:-) The only way I know to do what you want is by using Outlook Express and Eudora as intermediaries, export your Bat mail as Unix boxes, rename with *.mbx extensions and open them in Eudora. Import them from Eudora to Outlook Express, then Export them from OE to Outlook 2000. Don't you just love proprietary mail box formats? -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48f Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re[2]: Corrupted attachments
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Joseph Then wrote: I have been using The Bat! to send my Word attachment for a long time and have not met with any problems yet. Vels, you should follow Gerd's suggestion. I set mine to "No changes". Maybe you could check that out. If the above fails, here's my suggestion: Get another PC and install the same version. If it works for that machine, it means that you may have a setting that caused the problem and it is best to reinstall(wipe the old program CLEAN) your original PC. Good grief!! That sounds a bit drastic If it still won't work... Hmm... anyone else has a suggestion? Firstly update your virus patterns, there is a small chance that some Word Macro virus could be at work. Second send yourself an attachment from another MUA, see if that is OK when received in TB! and your alternate MUA. When you attach a file you should see an *increase* in the overall size by about 30%, I use base64 for attachments and have never experienced a problem with TB! -- Mark Aston http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: reply quote not working
Hi David, Tuesday, November 28, 2000, 3:32:07 PM, you wrote: DTS Yes. To me this is another 'bit' which the bat falls short. It is DTS all well and good to tilt at windmills and chant 'no html .. no html' DTS BUT it is there. Plain and simple. It is not going away so how can DTS BAT make working with it easier. It does a good job at making a text DTS version. SO why not pass that on to the reply? BUT in follow up I must say that in just going back and testing this I do not see this behavior any more sigh. Although I *know* that this was happening I do not know what could have corrected this. SO to BAT .. i apologize. Although I find some bits anoying this is possibly the most powerful product out there. Don't apologize,I have had this behaviour on and off for months, I just work-around it by copying and pasting text into the reply. It definitely only occurs with HTML messages and it has nothing to do with the reply template. I have not checked any headers to see if the messages affected were HTML only with no Text part, but I will next time it occurs. Fortunately I don't receive much HTML mail, and even less that I would wish to reply to:-) -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: reply quote not working
Hi Jan, Tuesday, November 28, 2000, 7:57:12 PM, you wrote: Mark I have not checked any headers to see if the messages affected were Mark HTML only with no Text part, but I will next time it occurs. Mark [...] Here's something else you might check. See if the problem name is in more than one address book. I think I'm finding a pattern where an affected address (that reacts as I have described earlier in this thread) is removed from multiple address books, it seems to work both in full reply or quoted reply. I have only one address book, I do not use address book templates, or indeed any templates other than TB! default with some minor additions. Certainly nothing complex that would cause this behaviour. As I said it's not a problem for me anyway, I rarely get HTML from people I wish to reply to, and if I do they only send it once:-) -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mailbox Import Wizard no longer sees Eudora mailboxes
Hi David, Saturday, November 25, 2000, 8:57:53 PM, you wrote: I'm using the Halloween edition for Windows95. I recently used the Mailbox Import Wizard to bring over some messages from my installation of Eudora Pro 3.05. It worked flawlessly the first time, but now when I try to do the same thing again, the wizard only identifies three Eudora mailboxes -- IN, OUT, and TRASH. The problem is that I have many more mailboxes and folders than that, but for some reason TB is not recognizing them any longer. Try importing them as Unix mail boxes, you will find them in the Eudora directory with an *.mbx extension to the mailbox name. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: THANKS Re: Mailbox Import Wizard no longer sees Eudora mailboxes
Hi David, Sunday, November 26, 2000, 8:14:47 PM, you wrote: Your suggested workaround is excellent -- allows me to get the job done and stop futzing around. Odd, though, isn't it, that the Mailbox Import Wizard would work fine initially and then stop working without any changes to TB? The only thing I can think of that's different is that I did ADD a number of mailboxes to my Eudora Pro configuration. Could it be that I exceeded some threshold beyond which TB can't deal with the information from Eudora? I have about 75 Eudora mailboxes plus about 8 or 10 folders each containing 5-10 more mailboxes -- all together maybe 125-150 mailboxes. Any thoughts are welcome, but above all, thanks to Mark for the workaround. Glad it worked out OK, I really have no idea why TB! wizard did not see the other mailboxes, as you say there may be a limit or it just sees the default boxes. Either way the Eudora boxes are in actually in Unix format anyway, Eudora just creates a *.toc file to index the mailbox. I have a copy of Eudora 5.02 (for experimentation) and when I tried TB! import wizard it could see all of the mailboxes, maybe it's just a problem with 3.05 -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encryption of .TBB Mailboxes?
Hi Alexander, Sunday, November 12, 2000, 4:24:59 PM, you wrote: AT I am curious if there is an option (planned?) in TB that encrypts the AT mailbox files. AT The password feature to secure access to a mailbox is well meant, but AT it is more or less useless if anyone with access to the .tbb files can AT read those using any ASCII editor. Better to stick to plain text Unix style mail boxes, at least if things go wrong you have a reasonable chance of recovering your mail, if an encrypted M$ style mail box gets corrupted you lose the lot. If someone has access to your PC there is no *real* security with any system. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter question: can we filter out attachments by name
Hi Abigail, Saturday, October 28, 2000, 9:32:34 AM, you wrote: AM No real harm, since TB doesn't go around opening attached files. AM But, I certainly would save myself some time if I could simply delete AM these known worms - AM So basically I want to have TB automatically delete any attachment AM with specific names or extensions. It is not the job of TB! to automatically delete *any* attachments, if you have a good virus checker it will find such worms etc. when it scans the Attach directory. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
slow deletes
Hi TBUDL, Deleting a large number (2-300) of messages takes ages, I just emptied 200 messages from my TBUDL folder and it took over 5 minutes, of course they went to Trash and took the same time to empty from there. This is a regular occurrence and not connected with any particular messages, I compress and purge my folders often. I have a 166MMX with 80M, and use AVP for virus checking, anyone else notice similar behaviour? -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide "You left them alone in a room with a penguin?! Mr Gates, your men are already dead." Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Selective Text Reply
On Saturday 14 October 2000 5:40 pm, you wrote: Sir, How do I get The Bat to quote only selected text of the original message in my reply? Select the text and press F4 -- Mark Aston [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com "You left them alone in a room with a penguin?! Mr Gates, your men are already dead." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hi Syafril, Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 3:43:34 AM, you wrote: SH Do as follow: SH - from OE, export to CSV format (go to Address Book, select all, then SHexport to others address book, choose Comma Separate by Value, choose SHfields you want to convert). SH - From Netscape Messanger, Import address book from CSV format, then SHexport to LDIF format. SH - From TB! address book import LDIF format. SH That's the way I did here when helping some friend to convert his OE5 SH address book to TB! (he just send me his address book in CSV file, and I SH send him back in *.abd file). I thought that the latest Netscape would import direct from OE5, don't have it installed ATM so I can't check. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hi Jan, Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 1:02:30 AM, you wrote: JR Mark, I appreciate your response but I'm still left w a JR couple of questions. At the interguru site I didn't find JR an LDIF converter. I have a copy of Netscape 4.08 (?) JR but being an IE person, I couldn't find a way to convert JR my OE address book to the LDIF format. JR Can you lead me through the Netscape alternative? Many JR thanks. The procedure is on the site http://www.interguru.com/msieall.htm otherwise just open Netscape address book and import from OE5, this is a *.wab (windows address book) -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hi Jan, Monday, October 09, 2000, 8:55:24 PM, you wrote: JR Thanks for your help, Gerd. However, when I tried this, JR OE wanted me to select a single card. If I did this, I JR would be doing it all day as I have a rather large JR address book. Were you able to select a group of JR addresses at one time to export? If so, could you JR explain exactly what steps you took? Thanks very much. Try http://www.interguru.com/ convert your OE address book to LDIF which TB! can import without editing fields. If you have a copy of Netscape you can import from OE and export to LDIF with similar results. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Maybe something for the wishlist
Hi Krister, Thursday, October 05, 2000, 9:49:01 AM, you wrote: KE Minor problem here, the screen reader. No screen readers for Weirdoes KE support drag/drop correctly. Had it been on the Mac, i wouldn't have KE objected but as dragging and dropping in Windows is hard for screen KE readers, i'd strongly support Ming-Lis suggestion that TB stored KE bookmarks in .url files or even a listt in a simple html file. There is a small application called Urlybird which will copy URL's to a clipboard accessed from the taskbar, I found it invaluable when I was using Win98, unfortunately it stopped working in W2k. You should be able to track it down at Tucows or CNET. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NTFS defragging (was: Slow changing folders)
Hi Mark, Sunday, September 24, 2000, 8:11:08 PM, you wrote: MRH As a point of interest... I believe that Win2K installs on an NTFS MRH cluster size of 4K by default so this should help prevent the same MRH type of problem occurring quite so readily - hooray for all users of MRH Win2K! I think you'll find it can do 512 bytes, when I converted my FAT partitions to NTFS I found they had lots more free megabytes:-) -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message window question
Hi Susanne, Saturday, September 23, 2000, 10:28:13 PM, you wrote: S With 'message window' I mean the area where all the messages S are listed (Subject, from, Created...). S Quite often when I open The Bat and look at this part the view S will be moved over all the way to the right (meaning the to me S least important things I need to know about my messages) and I S have to move it back to the other5 side (I'm afraid I'm not S making much sense here, but just don't have the words to S explain this better). S This affects all my folders and is very frustrating. S Is it caused by something I have set wrong? I have had exactly the same problem at times, I know what you mean, I think it maybe to do with the "Subject" length, try reducing the width of the "Subject" column, hold the cursor over the right of the column and drag it to the left a bit. You will not be able to read the complete subject but that is difficult anyway unless you remove some of the other columns. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: more new user questions
Hi Thomas, Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 8:39:45 AM, you wrote: S Also, I assume you can't read newsgroups with the Bat. TF No, it is an email client. S Any recommendations what to use instead? TF Yes: I use tin. g ROTFL and I use slrn, but I sure would not recommend it to an OE convert:-) -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: more new user questions (OT)
Hi Susanne, Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 8:08:29 PM, you wrote: ROTFL and I use slrn, but I sure would not recommend it to an OE convert:-) S Oh, why not g? A short(!) extract from the tin manual follows; Note the highly misleading use of the word "easy" in the description, I rest my case:-) tin, rtin, tind - A Usenet newsreader SYNOPSIS tin [[-h|-H|-V] | [[[-a] [-dlnq|-Q] [-ArzX]] [[-R|-S] -s News-dir] [-cuvUZ] [-N|-M address] [-o|-w]][-D debug-level] [-G article-limit] [-f newsrc-file] [-g server] [-m Mail-dir] [-p port] [-I index-dir] [newsgroup[,...]]] rtin [[-h|-H|-V] | [[[-a] [-dlnq|-Q] [-AzX]] [-cvZ] [[-S] -s News-dir] [-N|-M address] [-o|-w]] [-D debug-level] [-G article-limit] [-f newsrc-file] [-g server] [-m Mail-dir] [-p port] [newsgroup[,...]]] tind [[-h|-H|-V] | [-d|-P|-v] [-D debug-level] [-G article-limit] [-f newsrc-file] [-I index-dir]] DESCRIPTION tin is a full-screen easy to use Usenet newsreader. It can read news locally (i.e., /var/spool/news) or remotely (rtin or tin -r option) via a NNTP (Network News Transport Protocol) server. It will automatically utilize NOV (News OVerview) style index files if available locally or via the NNTP XOVER command. tin has four separate levels of operation: Group selection level, Group level, Thread level and Article level. Use the `h' (help) command to view a list of the commands available at a particular level. On startup tin will show a list of the newsgroups found in $HOME/.newsrc. An arrow '-' or highlighted bar will point to the first newsgroup. Move to a group by using the ter minal arrow keys (terminal dependent) or `j' and `k'. Use PgUp/PgDn (terminal dependent) or Ctrl-U and Ctrl-D to page up/down. Enter a newsgroup by pressing RETURN. The TAB key enters the next newsgroup with unread arti cles. Many more pages of obscure options follow this.... -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Hi Syafril, What is this? which is suddenly appearing on most of my mail from TBUDL [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ] Is it your server or mine? -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re: Uninstall problem
Hi Susanne, Sunday, September 17, 2000, 8:40:30 PM, you wrote: S I tried out the Bat, but have a few problems with it and S want to uninstall. What problems? Have you asked for assistance on the list? S I tried going to add/remove programs, but the Bat doesn't S show up as a choice there. How do I uninstall it? Just delete "The Bat!" folder, this will leave some registry entries but that will not cause a problem. S Also, the program shows up as the default for opening S .eml messages. How can I change this back to using S Outlook Express5? Open Windows Explorer, find a *.eml file, Shift then Right Click, select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always open With". I would not recommend returning to OE5, using it leaves you open to many security exploits. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Uninstall problem
Hi Susanne, Sunday, September 17, 2000, 9:08:42 PM, you wrote: S Also, I was missing a 'Save as' feature where you can save your S messages with the subject line as the file name, not just a number. S Is there such a thing and I just missed it? From the Message menu, Save As... you can save the message to another folder as text, .eml, .msg, or Unix format you can give it any file name you wish, but it defaults to the message subject. This is the same as exporting a message, if you wish to Save messages within TB! just create an "archive" folder and put the messages in there. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Uninstall problem
Hi Susanne, Sunday, September 17, 2000, 9:25:00 PM, you wrote: Open Windows Explorer, find a *.eml file, Shift then Right Click, select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always open With". S Unfortunately this didn't work for me. All it does is open up OE5, but S not the selected message. Any other options? Yes, try this, open Explorer go to View | Folder Options |File Types find EML, edit Open to read "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msim.exe" /f "%1" -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Steve Lamb has left the building
Hi Marck, Sunday, September 17, 2000, 9:27:38 PM, you wrote: MDP While his input has been stimulating on occasion, it has been far more MDP often intimidating. In our time we have lost more than one or two long MDP term members to his self-confessed "unkind" style. MDP As Allie just said to me in private: "I strongly believe that this MDP will be a turning point for the list. A thousand years of peace. :-)". MDP We shall see. This is indeed a pity, despite his abrasive style SL definitely made some valuable contributions to the list, I for one am sorry to see him go. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Uninstall problem
Hi Susanne, Sunday, September 17, 2000, 9:43:10 PM, you wrote: S Can I export all the messages from one folder onto a RW disk, where S the message subject is the file name? I tried this yesterday and all S the messages were saved with a number as the file name. This will happen if you export as msg format, your only other export option is Unix which will save all the messages to one big file. I think the only way to do what you want is to save each message separately. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Uninstall problem/.eml
Hi Susanne, Sunday, September 17, 2000, 10:28:16 PM, you wrote: S I feel more comfortable trying The Bat now. S OE5 never gave me any problems so far, but I don't like S the security problems associated with it. S Another question: Is there a limit on the folder sizes for S the Bat? I get a lot of messages and keep many of them, too, S so things add up pretty fast. Not that I know of, many people on the list have tens of thousands of messages stored in a single folder without problems. I find anything above about 500 slows down a folder when you first open it but I am running Windows 2000 on a 166MHz so everything is sloow! -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46c Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: UnInstall
Hi Curt, Saturday, September 09, 2000, 9:27:50 PM, you wrote: C Horrors. I recommended TheBat! to an associate for whom the program C was simply too overwhelming. So, she uninstalled it. It appears, C however, that the uninstall does not return file associates to their C previous state. For example, .msg attachments cry out for TheBat! C Any direct way out of this? I concluded that the simplest thing for C her to do was reinstall Outlook Express; that should, perhaps, reset C all of the associations. Open Windows Explorer, find a *.msg file, Shift then Right Click, select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always open With". Repeat for *.eml -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Addressbook
Hi Marcel, Sunday, September 10, 2000, 10:10:03 AM, you wrote: M I'm new to The Bat!, so I could be asking something really silly. M I'm working on my address book. I've been using Netscape 4.7 and all M the addresses are located in NS. M I've been trying to import these into The Bat!, but for some reason M that doesn't seem to work. You should not need to do this by hand, export your address book from Netscape as an *.ldif file, The Bat! will import this without any editing required, you don't even have to select fields. Address Book, File|Import From|LDIF File -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Fwd: Re: TheBat and Spam (and possible list serv alt)
Hi Jamie, Sunday, August 27, 2000, 7:20:44 PM, you wrote: JD Up in the grim North of England sarcasm is classed as the second JD highest form of humour (first is northerners carrying pianos up JD steps). It's very easy for a little sarcastic comment to seem JD offensive. Yeah wait till that new betas out, or someone comes up JD with a really clever idea (why can't tb! have an integrated JD spreadsheet/toaster/coffee maker?). ..and in the South of England, making fun of Northerners is the highest class of humour:-) Hey op lad how's T'Bat! I'll wager Thou be wantin' an integrated mushy peas and Yorkshire pud maker next:-) Please reply by pigeon! -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mailbox Import
Hi Tom, Saturday, August 12, 2000, 6:09:08 AM, you wrote: TF On this computer here in the office, where Outlook is installed buit I TF don't use it, a search like this: TF c:\dir *.dbx/s TP Can't comment on the extension specifics, but to be pedantic the TP switch needs to be before the filespec and there needs to be spaces TP between the arguements. Outlook (as opposed to Outlook Express) does not use *.dbx files, but one large *.pst file. TB! cannot import from Outlook directly, you must first import your mail from OL into OE, then look for the *.dbx files. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Moderator's Announcement
Hi Marck, Saturday, August 12, 2000, 10:21:28 AM, you wrote: MDP Please extend a warm welcome to your new moderator - I know I do :-). I would, but he has gone fishing for Trout:-) -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do u discriminate me just cuz Im new to this list?
On Sat, Aug 12, 2000 at 03:55:19PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, August 12, 2000, 6:10:14 AM, Dierk wrote: Who are you? Joe in another guise? Glad I'm not the only one who thought that. Perhaps he re-subscribed under anothername?? -- Mark Aston Using Linux 2.2.14-5.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: List server rules
Hi Jamie, Monday, August 07, 2000, 11:51:47 AM, you wrote: DL Does make you wonder if 6K is a bit big for a 5 line message ;) DL Not that it matters that much, but I keep all the security stuff DL switched off for mailing lists now JDB Point semi taken. I'll switch off PGP and leave S/Mime turned on. With JDB people like you we need to be careful. Actually it's the S/MIME that makes the message 6K or thereabouts, the PGP doesn't make much difference. Whilst it was a new feature and being tested on TBBETA it was OK, now I find the attachments quite irritating for use on a mailing list. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Under Windows NT 5 0 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)
Hi Nick, Monday, August 07, 2000, 9:22:24 PM, you wrote: NA Mark, I'm curious why they irritate you? Is it the fact they show up in NA the attachment bar, even though technically they are not treated as an NA attachment by TB!? What if a small innocuous icon was to be put inside NA the Message Header Bar/Preview Pane Splitter Bar, and not take up so NA much horizontal space in the preview pane? I suppose I'm just trying to NA determine if you are against digital signatures for some reason, or the NA way TB! presents them, because this is an important issue for both User NA and Developer. I notice you use a personal signature, so why not a NA digital signature? No, I have nothing against digital signatures, it is the attachment bar that is annoying. As others have suggested I like the idea of button in the header bar with a drop down list of attachments, much like OL (spit!) or failing that at the bottom of the message. Whether they belong in a mailing list is debatable, personally I don't care, as long as they don't spoil my view. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Under Windows NT 5 0 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Send function in IE 5.0
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Craig S. Reeder wrote: Hello TBUDL, I'm brand new to the Bat!, I've read the FAQ and archives and I can't seem to come up with an answer to an odd behavior from IE 5.0 when trying to "Send" - "Page by e-mail" or "Link by e-mail". I can click on either choice when trying to send a page or the link via e-mail and I'm left with no action on behalf of "the Bat!" (the Bat! being the default mailer). When either Eudora Pro or Outlook Express 5 is the default mailer then the page or link is sent via the default mailer. I noticed in the archives or FAQ that there is a change made to Netscape when using it as the browser. I use IE 5.0. Am I missing something and didn't see it in the archives? I've upgraded through the betas thinking that they might "fix" my problem. Any help is appreciated. Hi Craig You are not doing anything incorrectly, the functions in IE5 use MAPI which is not implemented in The Bat! Instead you could save the page and use right click Send To The BAT! from Windows Explorer or simply copy the URL into your mail. -- Mark Aston Using Linux 2.2.14-5.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Inquiries of a neophyit
Hi Langsley, Monday, July 31, 2000, 4:22:56 PM, you wrote: LR Is there any way to get the addresses from LR Outlook Express into the bat. I've got hundreds of LR them and I can not possibly re-enter them all!!! The most reliable (and round about)way to do it is to use Netscape to import the addresses from OE then export from Netscape to an LDIF file which TB! seems to import with no reformatting needed. If you don't have, or want to install Netscape you can do pretty much the same thing with the on-line tools at http://www.interguru.com/ -- Mark Using The Bat! 1.45 under Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bat wont collect any POP3
Hi Zipper, Saturday, July 01, 2000, 5:15:42 PM, you wrote: Z I am using Win2K and Zone Alarm. I followed Ming Li's instructions and added Z my mail servers this didn't cure it. I then shut down Zone Alarm, and it Z still hung from the second collection onwards. I have had the same problem you describe and I do not have Zone Alarm installed, however the latest beta(5) seems to have fixed it. -- Mark Using The Bat! 1.45 Beta/5 under Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bat wont collect any POP3
Hi Allie, Saturday, July 01, 2000, 6:51:15 PM, you wrote: AM I don't know, but Mark just hollered that the latest 1.45beta AM may have improved things in this regard. See you on TBBETA with the AM response, if any. There are wise instructions to leave beta related AM stuff out of this groups since it could create confusion. Apologies, but I was so pleased it finally works with my set up, I could not restrain myself:-) -- Mark Using The Bat! 1.45 Beta/5 under Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bizarre/Weird non constant error.
Hi Jamie, Thursday, June 29, 2000, 6:47:05 PM, you wrote: JD Unless you lot are posting twice, which I doubt either JD there is a problem with the lineone pop server, the bat server or me. JD You decide. No problems here with the Lineone server, so either you are not completing the download (in which case the messages will not be deleted from the server) or you have filter problem. -- Mark Using The Bat! 1.45 Beta/4 under Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
RE: Misc. problems Windows 2000
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martyn Drake Sent: 20 March 2000 17:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Misc. problems Windows 2000 I'm not entirely sure what I've done to my Windows 2000 systems, but I'm having a tremendous time trying to persaude The Bat! to import messages from Outlook Express 5.0 or Eudora Light 3.06. Whenever I try to import more than one folder, The Bat! does absolutely nothing. It appears to work just fine when I import one folder at a time, but this is extremely tedius. Also, whenever I try to alter an account's properties, the folder icons that appear to each catergory are missing. I've suffered problems with checking mail - The Bat! just locks up and even restarting the machine and re-opening The Bat! brings up a blank screen with just the top menu options, but no message base, nothing. I've tried uninstalling, deleting the RIT entries in the registry, nuking The Bat! Program Files directory, plus all of them in one go, and absolutely nothing gets around the problems described above. I've tried this with 1.36, 1.38 and 1.41 to no avail. I did have 1.42/Beta 1 and 1.42/Beta 2 on these systems (BTW, I can reproduce these on two different Windows 2000 systems) if that would suggest any problems with my uninstalling techniques ;) Can anybody suggest a way of getting The Bat! to work once again on my system? I'm currently hitting my head against a large frying pan in frustration ;) Hi Martyn, It's probably no comfort to you but I'm experiencing pretty much most of the problems you describe. All started after upgrading to W2k, as far as the mail checking problem are concerned I found that changing TB! to network configuration and setting Windows Remote Access Auto Connection Manager to start automatically usually works. So TB! has the dubious honour of being the only application which has forced me to power down W2k in order to unfreeze it, hence I'm not using it at present:-( Best regards Mark -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
RE: Misc. problems Windows 2000
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexander V. Kiselev Sent: 20 March 2000 19:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Misc. problems Windows 2000 Hi there! On 20 Mar 00, at 19:05, Mark Aston wrote about "RE: Misc. problems Windows 2000": large snip So TB! has the dubious honour of being the only application which has forced me to power down W2k in order to unfreeze it, hence I'm not using it at present:-( Just wait until your "Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)" ruins your beloved 2k completely;-) Having heard as much as I have heard (and seen) lately (i.e. last week, after I've returned home from the MacLand;-)) about how 2k performs, my guesstimate would be something from two weeks upto a month... Please do not use the words 'beloved' and 'microsoft' in the same sentence. I use Pine with Linux for most of the time so I am certainly no fan of M$. Unfortunately my partner who shares this PC will only use Windoze, so I need a _working_ MUA. Currently (for whatever reason) The Bat! does not work with 2k on my system. When it crashes the system freezes and I cannot get to the Task Manager to kill the process, it will normally not dial-up more than once a session. As for Win2k /Office 2k I am quite prepared for it to suffer software rot, and I suspect your estimate of two weeks is on the generous side:-) we shall see, first impressions however suggest that it is more stable than W95/98 although that is not difficult to achieve. Best regards Mark -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
RE: Misc. problems Windows 2000
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexander V. Kiselev Sent: 20 March 2000 22:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Misc. problems Windows 2000 Hi there! On 20 Mar 00, at 20:57, Mark Aston wrote about "RE: Misc. problems Windows 2000": Just wait until your "Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)" ruins your beloved 2k completely;-) Having heard as much as I have heard (and seen) lately (i.e. last week, after I've returned home from the MacLand;-)) about how 2k performs, my guesstimate would be something from two weeks upto a month... Please do not use the words 'beloved' and 'microsoft' in the same sentence. I use Pine with Linux for most of the time so I am certainly no fan of M$. Oh well, I definitely didn't want to insult you with this. I was just wondering how one "searching for a _working_ MUA" as you say ends up with LookOut;-)) Especially a Linux user, as you say;-) Unfortunately my partner who shares this PC will only use Windoze, so I need a _working_ MUA. Currently (for whatever reason) The Bat! does not work with 2k on my system. When it crashes the system freezes and I cannot get to the Task Manager to kill the process, it will normally not dial-up more than once a session. Yeah, in Redmond they call it "stability" AFAIK;-) Under Linux you can kill everything at least;-) I just miss my own Warp days when I could safely kill even the presentation manager itself Oh well... As for Win2k-related problems, I haven't got much to say, since I haven't got enough experience with that newly-invented monster... But the GUI problems like missing buttons closely reminds me the well-known problems with Delphi vs. comctl32 library. With 5.0 I've suffered from 4 of 6 Delphi programs I'm using routinely here. I'll never install w2k here (in foreseeable future at least) hence it's up to you to check it out... No insult taken:-) LookOut was the easy way out, and already installed as part of Office, thankfully I'm only using it for this list. I do not blame TB! in any way, if M$ released their code then programmers would have a chance to make compatible software. Best regards Mark -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
RE: Misc. problems Windows 2000
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allie Martin Sent: 20 March 2000 21:32 To: Mark Aston on TB!UDL Subject: Re: Misc. problems Windows 2000 On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:05:49 -, Mark Aston wrote: It's probably no comfort to you but I'm experiencing pretty much most of the problems you describe. All started after upgrading to W2k, as far as the mail checking problem are concerned I found that changing TB! to network configuration and setting Windows Remote Access Auto Connection Manager to start automatically usually works. So TB! has the dubious honour of being the only application which has forced me to power down W2k in order to unfreeze it, hence I'm not using it at present:-( Ah those upgrade installations that 'seem' to be OK. TB! problems may just be the beginning. A fresh install all the time for me. I have had no problems whatsoever with TB!. Funny, it's the same installation of TB! that I am using since NT4. I just backed up the registry settings and restored them in Win2k. My sympathy to those who have to upgrade because of the undue inconvenience (often costly) of a clean install. I think you hit the nail on the head there, I am just glad I did not pay good money for any of this M$**t, oops! ducks to avoid missile from Redmond Best regards Mark -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mailer info?
On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, you wrote: Hello Listmembers, On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 at 12:01:53 [GMT +] Tony Boom wrote: Just a quickie. Hey...hehe... a QUICKIE? Via email? I remember that it was kinda different ages ago :-) Regards Dieter No, it still has the same meaning here in GB ROTFLMAO! Via email you have to have a good imagination:-) -- Best regards Mark Aston Using Linux 2.2-22 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! Version info
Hi Thomas, Tuesday, March 14, 2000, 11:43:11 AM, you wrote: TF What is that? A programme? Can you tell us which one? S quick, saves me having to open an application necessarily, and usually S provides better details. It is a particular gripe of mine that some authors S don't include this extended info. Obviously you do not share this gripe :) TF Never heard of it but sounds interesting. You actually don't need a utility to do this, if you right click the file in Explorer and look at properties it will show you this information, if it's there, in the case of TB! it's not. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! Version info
Hi Simon, Tuesday, March 14, 2000, 5:36:17 PM, you wrote: MA You actually don't need a utility to do this, if you right click the MA file in Explorer and look at properties it will show you this MA information, if it's there, in the case of TB! it's not. S I take it you are not a big fan of speedy little shell extensions Mark :) Well since I installed W2k on my 166 *nothing* could be described as even remotely 'speedy' :-) so I tend not to install anything which could make it even slower. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Send/Receive operations hang on Windows 2000 Professional
Hi Ole, Sunday, March 12, 2000, 1:42:31 PM, you wrote: OAR When using The Bat! v1.39 on Windows 2000 Professional (final OAR release, English language version, directly from Microsoft/MSDN), OAR The Bat! can only perform one Send or Receive operation per session OAR before those operations stop working; they end after about 10 OAR seconds with a "FETCH/SEND - Could not connect to the server" error OAR message. If I quit The Bat! and restart it, I can perform *one* of OAR those operations normally again. OAR The Bat! has worked flawlessly in NT4 SP5/6 and in Win98SE, but not OAR in Windows 2000 Professional so far. I use SMTP for sending mail, OAR and POP3 for receiving. OAR Anyone got any ideas? OAR Solution: Instead of specifying the names of my mail servers in the OAR Account Preferences, I plugged in their IP-addresses, and now OAR everything works like a charm. OAR Clarification: My W2KPro computer is stand-alone (not on a LAN), I OAR have specified a local 10.0.0.1 IP-address, and NetBIOS over TCP/IP is OAR enabled (didn't make a difference to the problem if I disabled it). OAR So now everything works! OAR - Olik I have had the same problems here, unlike you I did not find a solution, so I will try the method you suggest. I found I could do a single FETCH/SEND from one account only, clicking Tools|Check mail for all did nothing at all, the tasks were shown in the dial-up monitor, but just stayed there until I restarted TB! Now I just need to ping my servers to get the IP. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Send/Receive operations hang on Windows 2000 Professional
Hi Ole, Sunday, March 12, 2000, 1:42:31 PM, you wrote: OAR Anyone got any ideas? OAR Solution: Instead of specifying the names of my mail servers in the OAR Account Preferences, I plugged in their IP-addresses, and now OAR everything works like a charm. OAR Clarification: My W2KPro computer is stand-alone (not on a LAN), I OAR have specified a local 10.0.0.1 IP-address, and NetBIOS over TCP/IP is OAR enabled (didn't make a difference to the problem if I disabled it). OAR So now everything works! I tried your suggestion, does not work here, I still only have one FETCH/SEND per session, this is really making The Bat! unusable for me:-( FWIW there are reports on the W2k ng about this problem with several apps using dial-up. Hopefully version 2 will sort it out -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Hi Allie, Saturday, February 19, 2000, 1:25:48 PM, you wrote: Firstly apologies for using this MUA, I have TB! running under W2k the only problem so far has been the dial-up. TB! will no longer connect automatically, and the dial-up has to be invoked manually. AM It still works as it should here. OK, maybe I have got one of the win2k settings wrong, I have the same problem with Opera, although IE calls up the connection dialogue OK. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Outlook -- The Bat
Hi Sebastian, Sunday, February 06, 2000, 10:22:07 AM, you wrote: SA I worked with OUTLOOK 98 but not anymore. I don't have access SA to the program anymore, only to my PST file, a file that contains all SA the emails. How can I import them? Is there SA something like a filter out there? Some emails I would really like to SA read but I just can't because no tool knows the format. The only way AFAIK is to use Outlook Express to import the messages from Outlook and then The Bat! can import from OE format. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: questions
Hi Marek, Sunday, February 06, 2000, 3:53:36 PM, you wrote: MM can somebody tell me, what following functions do? MM - "Wait for completion" in "Run external program" section of Sorting MMoffice? At a guess I would say that the external program has to complete and terminate before TB continues with filtering MM - "Always encrypt to default key" in "PGP Privacy Preferences"? This means all messages will be encrypted to *your* key as well as the recipients, without this option checked you will not be able to read an encrypted message in your Sent folder. MM Used somebody "Smart Card" to store his Private PGP Key? Don't know this one -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 . -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Show from during download
Hi Clemens, Saturday, February 05, 2000, 8:47:11 PM, you wrote: Confirmed, I had not tried this feature for a while, so I just tested it, it seems once the header is downloaded that the message is gone from the server. I personally don't mind this, I will not download any large messages no matter who they are from, sending large files by mail is very inefficient and I prefer an ftp link. CGS sure, ftp ist much better, but not all have an access to a ftp-server ^^ CGS So, I think it would be fine, if the mail would stay on the server until CGS I (!!) say, that it should be downloaded or deleted! I agree absolutely, it should do as it says and leave the message on the server if that option is checked. The fact that this "bug" does not worry me does not mean it should not be fixed. However if fixing it means I lose my option to delete large messages then I would be upset. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message autoview window
Hi Alexander, Friday, February 04, 2000, 4:57:05 PM, you wrote: AVK Mine, too;-) BTW, speaking about these photos: Nick Danger looks really AVK dangerous, and Mark Aston looks astonishing... yeah, really! What jail that AVK photo has been taken at;-))? I have been lucky enough to escape the law (so far) but if I'm caught at least my photo is ready:-) -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Show from during download
Hi Clemens, Sunday, January 30, 2000, 4:55:36 PM, you wrote: CGS Especially when I get very big mails (2MB) I'd like to know, who is CGS the sender. So is it possible to show from during download. Cause it CGS is in the header, it is the first thing to be downloaded and it might CGS be nice, if TheBat would show this during download, so I might cancel CGS it, when i get a big mail from someone I don't want to get it from, so CGS I can delete it through web interface. The way I achieve this, is to set the maximum size in Account|Properties Mail Management, set to leave on server, download header only. Then if you don't want the message you can use Account|Dispatch Mail On Server to delete it. HTH -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Won't check for new messages automatically
Hi John, Thursday, January 27, 2000, 1:21:55 PM, you wrote: JDH Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this JDH software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud JDH registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold JDH and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site). Checked out Datula from the link on your site, very nice MUA, just need to learn Japanese now:-) Do you know if they plan an English interface? -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hi Oleg, Monday, January 24, 2000, 7:57:09 AM, you wrote: OZ Hello, the Bat! list recipients, OZ Sunday, January 23, 2000, Mark Aston wrote to RIT Research Labs about OZ The Bat! - bug report: MA "Server reports error. The response is -ERR Could not open Inbox for MA MA Connection to host broken last commands sent was PASS USER " OZ Contact your postmaster. Most likely some broken message blocks your OZ mailbox on server. It was a setting in TB! which caused the problem, I was able to download with another MUA. The problem was caused by having 'TCP/IP or Dial-up server' selected, when I changed it to 'workstation with TCP/IP' everything was OK. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.39 Serial Number 44DB0E98 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 and would like to report a bug The bug description: I use a dial-up account, if I am already connected TB! collects all my accounts no problem, if however I initiate dial-up from TB! I get the following "Server reports error. The response is -ERR Could not open Inbox for Connection to host broken last commands sent was PASS USER " You would naturally think this was a POP server error, however I have collected all mail successfully, and repeatedly from the same POP server using another MUA, whilst TB! repeatedly gives the above errors. Steps to reproduce the bug: Regards, Mark Aston -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hi Thomas, Sunday, January 23, 2000, 11:10:02 AM, you wrote: TF If so, do you manually connect with the same DUN file? - I mean TF Account/Properties/Network/Dial Up Networking Connection. I have a TF pop-down list showing all the DUN connections I have installed on my TF PC. I usually use only one, at that is the same for both manually TF connecting and letting TB do the honours. If the DUN connection you TF have selected here is different from the one you use for manual TF connections, that may be the cause of the error. TF I take it you have "Use an existing Dial-up connection (if any)" TF checked. Yes I have that checked, and I only have one dial-up connection on this PC, however I think I have solved the problem, I changed the setting in Network from 'TCP/IP or Dial-out server' to 'workstation with TCP/IP' and all is now working fine. Why that should make a difference I have no idea. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hi Thomas, Sunday, January 23, 2000, 12:22:42 PM, you wrote: TF Hallo Mark, TF On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:45:26 + GMT (23.01.2000, 19:45 +0800 GMT), TF Mark Aston wrote: TF I take it you have "Use an existing Dial-up connection (if any)" TF checked. MA Yes I have that checked, and I only have one dial-up connection on MA this PC, however I think I have solved the problem, I changed the MA setting in Network from 'TCP/IP or Dial-out server' to 'workstation MA with TCP/IP' and all is now working fine. Why that should make a MA difference I have no idea. TF Ooops, I didn't think of that. The reason being, I don't have that TF option. Did you install The Network Bat! ? I didn't know there was a Network Bat! I just installed the update as usual, as you say I did not have that option before, just noticed it when I checked all my settings. I had to format the drive recently so I did a fresh install of TB! after saving the reg keys, I imported keys and everything looked as before. Maybe doing this has given me options I never had before, I assumed it was an update in 1.39. Don't know why you don't have the option, did you try clicking the 'change' button under Network Administration? -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT clean temp
Hi tracer, Sunday, January 16, 2000, 2:36:18 AM, you wrote: Mark LookOut leaves Mark loads of stuff in temp, including every attachment that Mark is opened, Mark even those which were encrypted, so TB! is not so bad after all:-) t Bad? t Look what frontpage leaves behind Absolutely, a complete copy of the site you just worked on, additionally it will fill your server space with unwanted badly coded crud. Have changed to Dreamweaver now, but I'm still clearing up the mess left by FP2K. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.39 Beta/1 Serial Number 44DB0E98 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 and would like to report a bug The bug description: I have a sub folder of my main account with it's own Reply-to and From settings, if I create a new message while this folder is selected the correct Reply To and From are shown. If however I create a message by selecting a favourite from the drop down list then the parent folders settings are used for Reply to and From. BTW I have no overriding settings in the address book. Steps to reproduce the bug: as above Regards, Mark Aston -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OFF FP2K dreamweaver (was:clean temp)
Hi Roel, Monday, January 17, 2000, 4:23:14 PM, you wrote: R just a tip: don't trust dreamweaver for cross-browser scripting... R it often uses way more code than necesarry or it just doesn't work... R also: the image-rollovers preloading scripts aren't that good... R (especially v2 messes these up... v3 is slightly better but still too R big...) Yes I must try V3, I have trouble getting things to look right in Opera using DW2, usually I tidy up with HomeSite or TextPad before publishing and then check it all again with IE/Netscrape/Opera and sometimes Lynx if I'm feeling nostalgic:-) -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hi Jast, Monday, January 17, 2000, 4:23:21 PM, you wrote: J Morning Mark Aston, I have a sub folder of my main account with it's own Reply-to and From settings, if I create a new message while this folder is selected the correct Reply To and From are shown. If however I create a message by selecting a favourite from the drop down list then the parent folders settings are used for Reply to and From. BTW I have no overriding settings in the address book. J I can confirm this. The folders template is used but not the "Identity J settings". J Workaround: Set From and Reply-To information with template-macros. Could you tell me what macros you used? I tried the obvious override FROM but it just added the folder identity and still left the parent folder identity. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Auto Verify PGP Messages ?
Hi Oliver, Friday, January 14, 2000, 10:07:33 PM, you wrote: OS Downloading US versions is still no-no without special export licenses OS at NAI, I don't know for sure if that might change, considering latest OS jurisdiction. Try ftp://ftp.zedz.net/pub/crypto/pgp/pgp60/pgp652/ You can get US or Freeware version there HTH -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: img src......
Hi Alexander, Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 7:07:27 PM, you wrote: AVK Hi there! AVK On 12 Jan 00, at 12:16, Sashka wrote AVK about "img src..": just wondering, how long time will take for us, to make RitLabs add support for "img src" from external website in html messages. AVK I really *hope*, that they will *never* implement this! AVK I HOPE, that contrary to what you suggest we'll all say "NO" distinctly and AVK clearly! I hope further that everyone here (or at least the majority) will express AVK their *dislike* for your idea. Well I would certainly add my dislike for that "feature"(sic) hopefully everyone else who can appreciate the security and general annoyance aspects will also vote NO -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hi Ralf, Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 8:10:21 AM, you wrote: RB Hi Mark, RB you wrote on Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 00:30:32: RB [snip] LG - Will v2.0 support hooks for virus scanning attachments to messages? Yes. SL *VERY* Bad. MA Gone:-( RB Why the heck (sorry) is that "*VERY* bad"?? That's something very RB useful, IMHO. Because it's not necessary, any good scanner will scan your mail database anyway. I had AVP running when someone mistakenly posted happy99 to the list a month back, it was captured immediately on download and did not even make past windows\temp. Look at what McAfee does to LookOut with its interface, opening mail becomes even slower than normal, and McAfee doesn't catch the virus either:-) -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: suggestion- / wish-list
Hi Steve, Monday, January 10, 2000, 9:24:52 PM, you wrote: SL This is exactly my point. 3 people, 4 different opinions of editors. SL So SL why do people insist on making editors inside applications part of the SL application and forcing people to use them when they can just pass the SL text SL off to the preferred editor and not have to worry about programming, in SL essence, two different applications? Agreed, but this is the Unix philosophy, discreet applications giving numerous options for different configurations, whilst I agree that we shouldn't give up in trying to bring this to Windows, it would be better to bring The Bat! to Linux/Unix and leave the M$ users to their bloated all in one email/pim/browser/newsreader type software. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hi Steve, Monday, January 10, 2000, 11:45:12 PM, you wrote: SL Monday, January 10, 2000, 3:30:32 PM, Mark wrote: Gone:-( SL And this is supposed to mean, what, exactly? Basically I got more depressed with every item of that interview, I really like The Bat! as it is and would hate to see it become a bloated "do it all" type app, I suppose there is the option of staying with a version 1.xx? but that does not really appeal. Any suggestions for another Windows MUA that come close to TB, as it is now? -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hi Steve, Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:28:21 AM, you wrote: but that does not really appeal. Any suggestions for another Windows MUA that come close to TB, as it is now? SL PMMail? *shrug* Yes ,exactly a choice of one, TB really cannot compete with the "all in one " no-brainer LookOut type appz they should stick with what they are good at, they have a niche market of users who appreciate a mostly RFC compliant client which does not attempt to be "all things to all people". If you try to do that you end up with the lowest common denominator, and might as well use LookOut. I appreciate that RIT are a business, and should try to maximize their user base, but they are on a hiding to nothing competing with LookOut and Eudora so they would be better off keeping their niche market happy (i.e. most people on this list). Their "natural" market is the new Linux user looking for something more friendly than Fetchmail/Sendmail et al, as you have pointed out in the past there is nothing currently in Linux that meets the needs of a user with multiple ISP accounts. XFMail comes close but the interface needs work, and xforms are not Open Source AFAIK. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Rogues Gallery
Hi Leif, Thursday, January 06, 2000, 7:31:42 AM, you wrote: LG Hello users, LG Ok, the rogues gallery is up! LG http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/rogues.shtml LG I still need more pics! The offer is still open to those who don't LG have a scanner. Just e-mail me and I'll give you my mailing address, LG and I'll scan the photo for you (for free even! grin). Well Done! Leif, I expect this will shatter a few mental imagesg Maybe you could add marital status and/or preferences and make some money on introduction fees:-)) -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Merry Christmas!
Hi Rob, Saturday, December 25, 1999, 1:28:28 PM, you wrote: R Hello all, R on Fri, 24 Dec 1999, at 14:16:48 local time (GMT +), Mark wrote: To All Atheists...er.Hi! R well, if you atheists/heathens want to celebrate something too ; celebrate R the pagan part of Xmas ... the Winter Solstice ; the days are getting R longer again and Spring's coming !! ;-) R you can even get a christmas tree ; to greet Spring, people used to R decorate their 'dwellings' with the stuff that stays green in Winter, pine R fir. I think you mistake atheists (who do not believe in god) to pagans who believe in nature gods i.e. Sun, Moon, Earth etc. *We* do not feel the need to celebrate or believe in anything, however keeping in the spirit of your Christian/Pagan/Moslem celebrations I will go away and dance around the nearest tree:-) -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Merry Christmas!
Hi Fredrik, Friday, December 24, 1999, 1:36:36 PM, you wrote: FB Dear, FB fredag, den 24 december 1999, skrev du: CJT I'd like to wish you all, a very merry Christmas and a happy New CJT Year 2000 -- the last year in this century. :-) SH And Happy Lebaran Festival for Moslem. FB Merry Christmas from Sweden to you all! FB Regards, Fredrik Bergstrom To All Atheists...er.Hi! -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Opera Beta for Linux released...
Hi Steve, Friday, December 24, 1999, 4:57:58 PM, you wrote: SL Slashdot article: SL http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/12/24/0111239mode=thread SL Don't know how many Linux people we have on these lists but I think it is SL something for both BWS and Ritlabs to follow closely. Opera, to me, SL represents the first time that a smaller ISV has ported their product over to SL Linux. Opera shares a lot of common denominators with both PMMail and TB! SL which make it an ideal test of the Linux' community reaction to a quality, SL small commercial venture. Thanks for the tip, just installed it, looks pretty good. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
converting addressbooks
Hi tracer, Monday, December 20, 1999, 12:27:54 PM, you wrote: t Monday, December 20, 1999 t Hello Bat-users, t I have a fairly urgent request: t I want to try and move a large number of people away from MS outlook t 4 as in standard 98. t I want to see if I can get them to goto Agent for the news if they t use that and the bat for mail. t Problem: t HOW do I import the address book to the bat.. t 2. And in case anyone knows, the news boxes to Agent. t At preent I am having the whole day a big headache with a totally t mesed up 98 Italian and sofar nothing wanted to import the MS stuff t back into the new installed 98. t The system was so messed up i cannot even see where most of the t original data was stored as copies of ie4/ie5 and multiple other t stuff floats around. Anyway, how do I import the adress book t Thats one problem less You might try http://www.interguru.com/ he has some useful conversion utilities for use on line. If you can get the M$ stuff to LDIF it will be easy, I managed it a long time ago, and I believe I used another mail client (can't remember which, possibly Eudora) as an intermediary. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: converting addressbooks
Tuesday, December 21, 1999, 11:24:57 AM, you wrote: MA You might try http://www.interguru.com/ he has some useful conversion MA utilities for use on line. If you can get the M$ stuff to LDIF it will MA be easy, I managed it a long time ago, and I believe I used MA another mail client (can't remember which, possibly Eudora) as an MA intermediary. Just remembered it was Netscape Messenger, that will import OE and export to LDIF -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Import - Export
Hi Travisimo!, Friday, December 17, 1999, 3:34:24 PM, you wrote: T Friday, December 17, 1999, 8:52:45 AM, you wrote: AVK Both Pegasus and Eudora can use the Unix mailboxes. I dunno AVK how exactly the import is done with Eudora, but as for Pegasus AVK you'll just export your folders as UNIX mailboxes from TB, AVK rename these to *.mbx and copy to the Pegasus new mail AVK directory. On restart, Pegasus will happily incorporate these AVK folders. Although, the tray system must be recreated manually. T Thanks, that sound easy enough. I don't plan on going back to either T of those mail programs, but I'm glad to know it can be done fairly T easily if I need to. As for Eudora, I think I read on the website T that the new version (the preview version with ads) has a new Import T feature. In the very unlikely event that you return to that resource hog Eudora, the procedure is the same as Alexander has described for Pegasus, you rename to *.mbx and move to Eudora Mail directory. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
Hi Paula, Saturday, December 11, 1999, 8:54:50 PM, you wrote: PF But, are any of these Linux users willing to pay for an application? Yes, I think there would be , I for one would pay for a decent e-mail app which works under Linux. There are a lot of new Linux users who boot straight into the GUI and cannot cope with Sendmail/Fetchmail , they would be the ideal market for a Linux TB! Now Corel and Caldera are targeting the desktop market it would be the ideal time to establish a quality, easy to set up application. The Penguin! hmmm not sure about that, but at least there are plenty of ready made logos I suppose. PF Lame little joke. :) But, when you go public, it helps to have PF reference to Linux somewhere in the company name - for the moment PF anyway. Agreed, and something a bit more friendly than the usual recursive acronyms. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
Hi Paula, Saturday, December 11, 1999, 3:03:50 AM, you wrote: PF Judging by the response to VA Linux going public, RIT Labs should drop PF everything to develop a Linux version (new name - The Penguin!). Then, a PF few of us long-time, loyal users find a way to get it incorporated in PF the USA, roll out an IPO, and all get rich overnight. No need to have PF any prospects for making a profit. Tell me about it, I missed the deadline for VA share applications by one day, the e-mail with the forms etc. arrived late:-( RIT should move in fast before someone beats them to it, there are already several projects in progress to produce an OE5 type app for Linux, hopefully they won't be too much like OE5:-) The Penguin! hmmm not sure about that, but at least there are plenty of ready made logos I suppose. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
Hi tracer, Friday, December 10, 1999, 4:08:04 AM, you wrote: DH What's THEBAT.LNG? A Linux / Gnu version? Mark If only.no it's The Bat's language pack, which allows you to Mark change the interface language. t Agreed, if only the BAT was under Linux... Well I guess there is a chance now Delphi 5 has been ported to Linux, the open source problem still remains, but I think many Linux users would be willing to pay for a product of TB's quality. There is still nothing available that comes close to the functionality which TB provides. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
Hi Oliver, Friday, December 10, 1999, 2:51:32 PM, you wrote: OS Hi tracer, OS On Freitag, 10. Dezember 1999 at 14:57:33 you wrote: t Is Delphi 5 now under Linux? I didnt know that, Thats nice, that t means a lot of code can now be cloned. OS It isn't. It's supposed to be available sometime around mid-2000, but OS when Borland says so it usually means more like end 2000, IMHO. Yes, I should have qualified that statement with "will be" available, this is what Borland are saying; Project Kylix is currently planned to be a Linux component based development environment for two-way visual development of graphical user interface (GUI), Internet, database, and server applications. Plans are for Project Kylix to be powered by a new high-speed native C/C++/Delphi compiler for Linux and will implement a Linux version of the Borland VCL (Visual Component Library) architecture. The Borland VCL for Linux will be designed to radically speed native Linux application development and simplify the porting of Delphi and C++Builder applications between Windows and Linux. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Hi Douglas, Thursday, December 09, 1999, 7:50:09 AM, you wrote: DH What's THEBAT.LNG? A Linux / Gnu version? If only.no it's The Bat's language pack, which allows you to change the interface language. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: TBUDL@THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list
Hi Werner, Tuesday, December 07, 1999, 10:36:45 PM, you wrote: WH On Tuesday, December 07, 1999, 10:42:39 PM Werner Arts ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi MDaemon, What's the hell is this? I got the above mail twice. WH Me too... It's a daemon... :-) 8-( 666 -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
reply initials
Hi TBUDL, For one of my sub-folders all the mail received comes with the sender name in the form Smith John[EMAIL PROTECTED] So in my reply template I use "Hi %OFROMLNAME" the question is how do I get the initials (in)correctly shown for the quoted reply text? There no folder specific options for initials, they seem to be only for the whole account. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
