Re: I begin working some A11y related little modifications for GNOME Control Center application, please review my first patch before I attaching a future bugreport the fix
Dear syr, Very well done, ammazing programmers work, You are ammazing Python programmer and You are deeply understanding The GTK library procedures, methods and objects for drawing GUI of GTK compatible applications. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Would somebody try to find The specific Linux kernel device driver for Me?
Dear syr, You are ammazing human beeing and excellent programmer. Many users and Ubuntu developers can be and will be prought on You also on future. I Am suggesting some of users and developers, if somebody would give ME a right direction, who would be able to develope such complex programmers think like CPU fan control for Toshiba satellite notebook and who would develope new kernel driver for The Atheros AR8152/8158 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (NDIS integrated network cart. If there is better way to find more exact hardware specifications for this integrated network chip to help You during searching, if some kernel driver is allready developed? Or if there is some other procedure, which i would use to help some Linux kernel driver programmer to develope this driver from scratch if it will be necessary? I think, that if this kernel driver is not existing, there is big probability, that Atheros corporation did not allow Linux kernel developers to develope this driver, because company did not want to give kernel driver developers some pathented parts of their driver source code. If somebody of us will be able to find atleast non compiled source code of The Linux kernel driver for Atheros AR8152/8158 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (NDIS network integrated chip, please let Me know about it, i will try to fight with The compilation and incorporation to The installed Ubuntu. I AM using Toshiba Satellite L650D laptop. Thank You very much for Yours answer. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
How to access Adobe flash player setting panel like a totally blind user in Linux?
Dear advanced users and developers, I Am helpless during access The function in The following Adobe interactive WEB page. http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html Thank's to it, i can not enable Adobe flash player to use my microphone or camera on The special Flash player based WEB sites. I would like to valuably plese somebdy of You, how complex would be to find, on which data file Flash player stores The settings? Would somebody of Zou try to analyse gconf database or file system structure to find The Flash player settings? Orca is able to automatically announce ARIA live regions messages and many video WEB cam based sites are also containing chat messages and Flash player is needed to use those sites. It would be ammazing programmers project, write GTK accessible Adobe flash player control panel. I will contact Adobe company because of this big issue. Because this module is awailable for Windows but not for Linux and i Am very sad because of it. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu 11.10 Accessibility related questions
Dear users and developers, Would some body try to answer me the following accessibility related question? In The future official Ubuntu 11.10 release, how will be solved The navigation in side The installed applications menu? In The Ubuntu 11.04 and in The earlyer releases, user could press ALT+F1 and special applications menu have been recalled. Will be The similar keyboardshortcut awailable also in The official Ubuntu 11.10? Or it will be awailable in Vinux? I would like to thank MR Yelavich for his exhaustic, very complex and intensive programmers work. I would like to thank him very much, that he want to develope Vinux build scripts, so Vinux will be officially builded so no utilities such as Remastersys will be necessary to use. Very well done. I would like to thank MR Yelavich and Canonical LTD for bringing newest software and kernel drivers to every Ubuntu release. I know, that some of visually impaired users may be sad, that new features are causing accessibility issues. But i think, that it is very positive, that visually impaired users can be engaged to The development of new user interfaces such as Unity. And new display managers such as LighttGDM. Very important positive fact is, that there is even ammazing proggrammer, who is bringing QT support for us by developing The bridge between At-spi and QT libraryes. My question is: How i can simply access The run application dialog window in The latest Ubuntu daily build to run terminal and to try some QT based applications atleast by using live CD mode? I can not very probably run The terminal by typing gnome-terminal If there is no chance to run terminal like in earlyer Gnome releases, and if run applications dialog is not accessible by using keyboard shortcut, i AM suggesting to atleast support this hodkey. Or next idea is adding all applications links to The desktop, because desktop is accessible by Orca. So If applications menu is not accessible, I AM suggesting You to add applications linksto The desktop. Because it will be very probably much more easyer than to modifi Unity or Gnome-shell. What do You think about my idea? New accessibility algorithms can be awailable by Ubuntu updates. Fortunately, Orca and At-spi is stable and also speech-dispatcher and Pulseaudio are working excellently, so there is nothink annoing for visually impaired users. I think, that it will be good idea to solve some complex accessibility related issues to make Vinux distro, which will combine new and older modules to provide best awailable accessibility. So i AM recommending YOu to add applications shortcuts list to The desktop in The live CD mode, when user is activating Orca profile. So sighted users will not be surprised by The new Canonical LTD approach. What do You think about it? Also Run application link could be awailable in The desktop. If there is no choice to make The keyboard shortcut for this task -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Unity is relatively goodlyaccessible
Dear users and developers, Thank's to works of developers and advanced users throught out The world, The unity interface is much more accessible, than i have thinked before i have tried todays Ubuntu 11.10 daily build. By pressing ALT+F1, user can hear The names of buttons representing installed applications, running applications with administration privileges is also supported ammazingly and Orca can be used with those applications. Unfortunately, i AM not able to locate The Update manager and run application dialog window. So please, will be Ubuntu updater included or this tool will not be awailable and users will have to perform Ubuntu updates by using apt-get dist upgrade? There is Ubuntu One, Ubuntu software center, but i can not locate Synaptics package manager. But Unity is working and attention. Orca is able to cooperate with included version of Mozilla Firefox, but now, user must use The Orca configuration for Firefox and user must check The button grab focus on objects when navigating. This button is awailable in The Firefox specific Orca settings in The firefox TAB. So for now, my biggest issue is, that i can not activate The run application dialog box and i can not locate The terminal atleast inside The list of installed applications. The name of module is very probably Application launcher, which is displaing The applications list after pressing ALT+F1. My last question for all Orca users is. Do You think, that it is sad, that Orca is not supporting The live regions announcement mechanishm presented in The older Orca releases? in Orca 2.32.0? So users could hear The messages of ARIA live regions not only when Orca automatically have detected those messages, but user could hear one of The checked ARIA live regions messages by pressing ORCA+F2, F3. So Orca +F2 have announced The message presented by The second ARIA live region, ORCA+F3 have announced The previously spoken message from The thirt ARIa live region, ETC. Now, ORCA is able to automatically speak The ARIA live region, but user can not repeat The previously spoken messages, which have been assigned to one of The ARIA live regions. According to my opinion, it is sad, because ARIA live regions are very often used even in The modern chat related WEB sites, some WEB pages are using ARIA live regions for displaiing The ADS, state television WEB pages can use those regions for displaiing tips for one of The important news, ETC. But Orca is very stable, Pulseaudio is not causing issues, at-spi is working excellently. So i think, that everybody of us can lookingforward to official, stable Ubuntu release. I think, that there is time to release RC version of Ubuntu 11.10. I think, that this will be done in The end of next week. BUt it is only my personal analysis, it will depend on Canonical LTD. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: What happened with Orca in Oneiric
Yes, I have not been patient and i have tried to install Yesterdays daily build and i did not able to hear Orca after installation and when triing to run Orca from one of The virtual consoles, ihave got error message related to The fact, that some environment variable not set. But in live mode everythink worked fine, installer also, there was only complex issue for solving, that even when installation have been finished and installer did not do nothink complex, tasks which are comsuming extra of system resources, Espeak have spoken to me very cutterefed, it looks to me, that some threads of installers are blocking Pulseaudio or other subprocess of speech-dispatcher. Because of complexity of programmers relation ships between Python application Ubiquity and Orca, which is also written in Python, It seems to me, that The best would be to add new simple code to The Python Ubiquity installer, which will be able to generate some beep when every 1 procento will be increase in The installers proggress bar, and that it will be very safe to block at-spi calls by Orca while installing The system. Because manipulation with Orca flat rewieving algorithms while installing have been caused me The crash of installer even in previous official release of Ubuntu, i did not used Vinux remaster. Because it is very complex to create other modiffication of Espeak, which would be compatible with Gnomespeech library, so Ubuntu would contain Two Espeak. One would be nonvisible, compatible with Gnomespeech services, i mean by The word invisible, that this release of Espeak would be totally invisible by The debian packaging management system and second Espeak would be The version specially modified to be compatible with speech-dispatcher and Pulseaudio. I will experiment with Installer of previous release when Gnomespeech services will be used instead of speech-dispatcher. But bšefore constructing may be nonsenses, i will try The Beta2 build, which is now awailable. I will also Try to play with The Gnopernicus source code while using older Ubuntu release, it would be interesting to repair The bug which is causing Gnopernicus crash while Espeak is speaking and user is pressing next key, which is causing Gnopernicus to send other string to The Gnomespeech services. I AM afraid, that The future of The solution, which will prevent screen readers from randomly crashing while using complex Python applications will be The new Screen reader written completely in C language. This is only my phylosophical thinkink, i love Orca and i do not have nothink apposite it's ammazing algorithms, but i AM only triing to find The solution. Thank You very much, MR Yelavich for Yours complex programmers work related to The accessibility with Orca. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Orca admin tasks in 11.04
Dear syr, It is necessary to install Ubuntu 11.04 by starting The live CD by using BLindness profile, press Enter twice, press F5 and press number three. Alternatively, place The access=v3 Bootparamether to The text.cfg located in The isolinux subfolder. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubunt build from 22.9.2011 is working officially with Orca support
Dear users, I would liketo inform You, that You can run Ubuntu live CD, Uuntu11.10 with Orca support. You must download one ofThe daily buids from here http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ You can burn it to A CD or You can alternatively use The Universal USB installer for Windows with ammazingly accessible GUI downloadable from here. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.4.exe You must run The .exe program and accept The licence conditions Select The choice Try The unlisted Linux (new syslinux). To simply activate this choice, press The end key in The supported distributions list. Choose The free USB flashdrive letter, check The format button if necessary and activate The next button. Confirm The dialog box, that You want to install to this drive and patiently wait. When installation will be finished, You will The USB boot live flash drive and You will have The chance to use boot menu like booting from The CD. So press Enter key twice, press F5 and press three number, not on The numeric keypad but on The uppest keyboard row. Press Enter may be once or twice and wait patiently. After Ubuntu login welcome sound, You will hear The welcome to Orca message. Wanring! You will have access only to The icons on The desktop, i can not determine how to access The applications list menu, but it will be probably ready later. Also ALT+F2 dialog is now inaccessible, but may be, that BETA2 release will support it better or RC release. So i would like to thank all engaged developer for official accessibility support. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Orca admin tasks in 11.04
So does administrative applications work for You atleast from live CD? I will install 11.04 too The official release to determine, if there is some issue related to running administration tasks after installation. By The way, what about try to run This ammazing project? http://vinuxproject.org/Downloads/V3.2.1/Vinux-3.2.1-i386-CD.iso It is ammazing Vinux project with Speakup integrated, Android text to speech engine compatible with Orca and optimized for The needs of visually impaired users. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Thanks letter for all Accessibility engaged developers from Canonical LTD
Dear developers, I would like to use this opportunity and i would like to deeply appreciate Yours long term work related to Ubuntu accessibility. You are The good example, that new user interfaces and new software technology can be developed for handicapped and also for non handicapped users. I would like to thank MR Yelavich for his outstanding programmers work, because i know, that working on accessibility is not his only one working activity for Canonical. His role is very complex, because he must make a balance, so accessibility for visually impaired users can not be in The conflicts with user interface plans of Canonical LTD. I Am patient and eventhough i AM helpless to try latest Ubuntu builds myself, i have tried The build from Monday and also Beta1, i know, that MR Yelavich is doing his best to bring The accessible Ubuntu for visually impaired users as soon as possible. CTRL+S is not running Orca at all. I have tried it with build from Monday for The several time, even boot option access=v3 is not helping me. Even triing to stop light display manager service by using earlier post from very kind and intelligent MR Attia is not working, it worked probably for Alpha 1 sudo service lightdm stop SO i AM looking forward to BETA2 release, i believe, that this release will be awailable in The first week of next month. There are very probably some complex steps which are necessary to complete to use Orca successfully. But from Console, Orca is working, So ammazing fact is, That speech-dispatcher and Pulseaudio are working ammazingly and smoothly without issues. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Which accessibility features have been added to The latest version of Kubuntu 10.10 BETA?
Dear core developers of accessibility features in Ubuntu, Please, would You tell me, if some on screen keyboard or other accessibility based features have been added to The latest BETA version of KUbuntu 10.10 Maverick? I do not assume, that Orca will work with KDE, but i would like to know, if there is other accessibility based features, such as on screen magnifier or on screen keyboard. Thank You very much for Yours answer. With kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
What about to try to read article about Pulseaudio?
Dear users and developers, What about to try to solve problems caused by The Pulseaudio integration related to volume control by read The following article? http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup If all packages mentioned in this Wiki article are properly installed and configured in Ubuntu Karmic, then it is onlyone possibility to solve some problems related to Volume. Wait for some updates, as i tried, Canonical releases some updates very fast, so lets patiently wait. Some occasional crashes of speech dispatcher while using Espeak are really caused by The installation of Ubuntu Karmic to a Harddrive, i noticed this crash while using gnome-terminal and when i was used sudo su I typed my right root password I tried to install some package by using apt-get install But when Espeak talked The progress of package installation, Speech dispatcher dummi module started to talk to me. But i think, that those crashes can be very remarkably decreased by perform all awailable updates by using update feature in The administrative applications menu. If some crashes will occur, i will send speech dispatcher debug log to some developer, who could repair speech dispatcher source code. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 Koala positive feetback related to accessibility and speech responsiveness
Dear users, When i read Yours several E-mails related to crashes of speech dispatcher while using it with Orca, i was wondering what would cause those behaviour. I tested Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 Koala in live mode for more than one hour and i did not experienced random crashes related to speech while using Espeak with Orca. I tested accessibility of administrative tasks, installation program and i do not know about issues related to those applications. So if somebody of us is having problems related to speech, try to test The Ubuntu Karmic while using it in live mode. Work with The same computer on which You are experiencing random crashes of speech support with Orca. If You are experiencing difficulty after performing installation of ubuntu Karmic to A hard drive, my opinion is, that random crashes are caused by The fact, that Ubuntu is installed on A harddrive. My opinion is, that if this is The case, there is complex software conflicts between algorithms, which are used for allocating swap file and speechdispatcher. May be, that those algorithms are causing this problem. MR Klaus Knopper is also experiencing problems while using speechdispatcher with his Adriane Knoppis, when console applications are used and speechdispatcher is being used with SBL Suseblinux screen reader. Speechdispatcher is crashing, if Adriane Knoppix is installed on A harddrive, but never crashes if Adriane Knoppix is used in live mode and very probably, those crashes will not occur, if Adriane knoppix is being used in live mode started from USB flash disk. Speechdispatcher will never crash in Adriane Knoppix, if user will only use Orca and LXDE related applications. So i think, that this conclusion would help core developers of Speechdispatcher to debug memory allocation related tasks, if it would be possible. MR Knoper really sended me The E-mail, on which he confirmed my conclusion, that consoled applications in Adriane Knoppix, which are used with SBL are not usable with speech dispatcher if Adriane Knoppix has been installed to A hard drive. Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 is very good accessible distribution, ACPI services are very well optimized and motherboard is not having high tempherature. Orca responsiveness is The fastest while using Pulseaudio sound server with Espeak and Orca. I think, that many of us would send MR Yelavich thank's E-mail, because he had to spend many hours of complex programmers work while debugging Pulseaudio sound server to reach The best awailable compatibility and speech responsiveness while using this sound server with Speech-dispatcher and Orca. Mr Yelavich, thank You very, very much for Your intensive and complex programmers work while analysing, debugging and modifiing source code of Pulseaudio sound server, which is written in C programming language. Pulseaudio will be very probably The standart for many Linux distributions, Mandriva One 2009.1 is using it, Opensuse is using it from version 11.0, earlyer versions used ESD sound daemon. And i really think, that Ubuntu is now The best Linux distribution, which is accessible with Orca while Pulseaudio sound server is incorporated. And, what is very, very important, also users of braille displays can be very happy, because Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 is using The latest awailable and stable version of Brltty. I will install Ubuntu Karmic To a Harddrive and if i will find some issues, i will provide valuable and constructive feetback about it, so some issues would be solved by making some update for ubuntu Karmic. So please, do not be afraid and You can safely try Ubuntu Karmic. If You want to use Brltty, Brltty daemon must be started with The root privileges, i tested it in Live CD mode. So i would like to thank all core developers of Ubuntu Karmic, who made their best to support a handicapped computer users. Last remark. There are many various computers, with various models of CPU, with various CPU frequency, with various chipsets, and with various sound carts. Some sound carts were manufactured after year 2002. So those sound carts are using slover chips and also algorithms incorporated in to The sound drivers for controlling those sound devices are not able to provide so fast responsiveness while using those sound carts with Pulseaudio sound server. So please, i would like to kindly please all users, if they would think about those technical problems before providing negative feetback related to speech responsiveness in Ubuntu Karmic. Every developer is A Human being with emotions and try to look to The source code of Pulseaudio sound server. Try to imagine, that every body of us would have to analyse, modifi, recompile and debug this source code ro make reliable support of Pulseaudio sound server. Lets be more emphatical to core developers of Ubuntu, who are really very overloaded because of other programmers activity, not only because of developing accessibility support for Ubuntu
Re: Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 Koala positive feetback related toaccessibility and speech responsiveness
Dear syr, Some sound drivers are using different values for volume paramethers, so there will be probably a onlyone solution, somebody very experienced would tell You the name of configuration file and would tell You a command for increasing The volume. But because You provided excellent description of Yours used integrated sound device, core developers who are responsible for those tasks will be very probably prepare update for solving this issue. I also experienced very fast responsiveness while using Orca with Mozilla Firefox included in Karmic. So i wisch You many positive experiences while working with this Ubuntu release. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: the sbl screen reader
Dear users, As i know, SBl (suseblinux screen reader) is included in some Opensuse repository, and Adriane Knoppix is also having this screen reader included and it's configuration files has been modified, so this screen reader is not communicating with external synthesizer or with supported braille device, but with Speechdispatcher directly. Thank's to MR Klaus Knopper and his colleagues, who are professional developers. I did not find computer, which would be incompatible with Ubuntu Jaunty, some very old computers, dated to year before year 2000 will have troubles not with plaing greeting sound when Gnome has been started, but with cooperation with Espeak and other synthesizers. I Am recommending all professional programmerrswho are now in this mailing list, if they would start professional academic discussion with competent programmers, who are responsible for developing The Linux kernel. Also developers of Sepakup could be invited to this programmers discussion. Why core developers of Linux kernel do notwant to officially include Speakup patch to The kernel? Debian distro and also Ubuntu can use this package made special packages to include Speakup with Espeak, i do not know The names of all packages, which are necessary to install Speakup support with Espeak. Even NTFS3G support is awailable in The Debian repository, so Debian users do not have to recompile whole kernel to include support for NTFS access. And in Ubuntu, this driver is officially included for more than 2 years. , -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: the sbl screen reader
Dear syr, I know, that SBL can support those devices, i told about configuration files, which has been modified in The Adriane Knoppix distribution, to enable support of Speechdispatcher. I know, that those devices can be supported. I constructed bad sentences. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
please try to focus on solving errors related to at-spi registry module while using Ubuntu Karmic development releases
Dear syr, I would like to valuably please YOu, if You would intensively focus on errors related to at-spi registry finished unexpectedly error message, while using Ubuntu Karmic with Orca. This error is appearing very often, if user is using Ubuntu update from Gnome-terminal, unfortunately, i think, that Ubuntu updates are in conflict with some at-spi modules, because after finishing updates by using this feature from Gnome menu, orca very often stop to talk. I used apparmor to send bug report, but i do not know, if The error report has been recorded to The server if i did not completed The questions in The form. Please, try to very intensively cooperate with core developers of AT-Spi components, how to enable users to watch update progress while using at-spi compatible screen reader. Fortunately,i successfully solved The issue related to language updates not only in Ubuntu Jaunty. The best way from preventing to install rest of those components after finishing Ubuntu installation is to connected to The Internet when user starts installation program, so before first reboot of installation program, Ubiquity is able to automatically download all necessary language updates. So, please, be very careful on At-spiregistry module not only while using ubuntu updates, this error is also caused by The algorithms, which Orca is using while user is pressing ALT+F4 for terminating applications. I also occurred this error and because at-spi-registry module terminated unexpectedly, Orca stopped to speak. It is possible to rerun Orca, but please, try to debug The cause of those random crashes of at-spi-registry module. I will send The error reports to Canonica while testing The newest Ubuntu Karmic builds. Please, all visually impaired users must use orca flat rewiev keys and key for simulating left mouse click for activating The button for sending bug report from The Apparmor, but fortunately, The Orca algorithms are able to reliably perform this task. So thank You very, very much for programmers analysys. I will intensively test, if those crashes are not only caused by Espeak and Orca cooperation, so i will disable speech or much more better, i will remove Espeak from The system. Thank's for ammazing Initframs, so i can perform those tasks even from live CD. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: problems after installing karmic
Dear users, I have tried The procedure, which can guarantee You, that YOu will be able to boot to Windows Xp if YOu will remove Linux operating system according to my directions. If You will not be able to boot to Windows XP, You are having two possibility. 1. Remove partitions, which are used by Ubuntu Karmic, I Am strongly recommending You to rather use stable live CD for removing and modifiing The partitions, because kernel of development releases can be unstable. Use gparted only in Live CD mode while YOu will boot from this live CD. Or You would try to manually edit Grub configuration file and specifi to boot WIndows XP. try to please a sighted person, if there is item for starting Windows XP. If no, installation program for Karmic did not add The Grub configuration for starting Windows XP. Try to look at The partitions, if You did not removed NTFS partition. So how to remove Linux safely and how to recover Windows SXP to be bootable again? Boot from a stable Ubuntu live CD, I Am strongly recommending You to boot from Ubuntu Jaunty official release. Use gparted to remove Linux based partitions. Before removing Linux svap, disable it by using F10 function key and right arrow key to get to The partition sub menu. And press down arrow key until YOu will hear svap off. This will disable svap file. Because Linux kernel will probably use Your svap file eventhough You will boot from A live CD. Linux kernel is loving The svap file very much, and if it will see this partition, kernel will start to use it. When You will have svap file off, You can remove Linux svap, and extended partition. You can also remove EXT4 partition if You will experiment with Ubuntu Karmic, EXT3 file system will be used while using older Ubuntu releases. When you will have removed all Linux partitions, restart Your computer with Ubuntu live CD on YOur CD boot drive. Start gparted again and when cursor will be on a NTFS partition, explore The Gparted menus to find The flags sub menu. Enable The boot flag in The dialog box. Your NTFS partition must be bootable, so The boot flag must be turned on. Apply the changes and restart Your computer without Ubuntu live CD. I found out, that by using boot flag, The boot sector will be working fine and Your WIndows XP will very probably start fine without problems. There is also other procedure, so user have to use The console and before triing to install other operating system, user can backup several sectors of his hard drive to The floppy drive or to The USB disk. I can explain both procedures for this. I Am not author of those procedures. One professional from GRML E-mail conference described this procedure for backing up sectors to USE or to A floppy drive. I will try to send A direct link to his article, eventhough The whole article is focused on installing GRML, The procedure for backing up and restoring from this backup is included. I tried The procedure for recovering Windows XP to The boot state after removing Linux distro. I tried this procedure for Opensuse, but i think, that boot flags will be working fine, because i used Gparted from Ubuntu to set The NTFS boot flag TO The on state. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
problems with Language update in Ubuntu Jaunty
Dear core developers of Ubuntu Jaunty, Please, would you try to find The cause of The problems while performing recommendet language updates when update notifier is giving this possibility automatically? I AM using Ubuntu Jaunty with Czech language support. ALgorithms even installed The braille table for Czech language. But when Orca is being used The process is not finished successfully. Now, update notifier is always display The dialog window, that i should install update related to my language but after activating button perform The action, The updater can not finish The installation and dialog box for selecting The language is appear. So please, could You try to modifi those algorithms so The process will be finished correctly? Thank YOu very much for YOur answers. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
security question related to running administrative tasks from The gnome-terminal
Dear core developers of Ubuntu Jaunty, I would like to thank You very, very much that You improved accessibility support on this Ubuntu version, user do not have to create orbit.rc file to run aplications with The root privileges from The gnome-terminal. My security question is related toThe situation, when i will run some administrative tasks from The gnome-terminal. Can i run all those task securely, or there can be random crashes while triing to run them from The Gnome terminal? What is better approach. Run those tasks by using gnome-terminal and a command line, or To use run application command and The button run in The terminal? In GNome 2.23, i received GTK related error message while using TAB and SHIFT+TAB in The Synaptic package manager, which i executed from The Gnome-terminal. So please, would YYou gime me a advice? Because i think, that some interfaces of applications are not intennded to be run from The gnome-terminal. Thank You for Your professional answer. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: karmic problem is fixed but here is another one
Dear users, Yes, The restart keyboard short cut for restarting Gnome has been removed also from Ubuntu Jaunty. But please, keep in mynd, that You are allowed to use CTRL+ALT+F1 to activate console while Gnome is being used, You can type Your user name and password, then You will be able to use special command for manipulating with Gnome, including exit of this desktop environment. Please, try to study documentation for command gnome-session. You are even able to install yasr while You will be used console for those commands for exitting Gnome, You will have a Feetback. I occurred software problems while restart of Xserver has been presented in Ubuntu intrepid and in older releases of Ubuntu. The less dangerous effect has, that every next restart of Gnome caused higher temperature of my motherboard and that sped of CPU fan has increased. There were even problems with Orca. For now, i do not know about better Linux distro, which is being so good supported by The core developers to be usable by visually impaired community. Kernel has been specially optimized to reduce The CPU fan speed while running Ubuntu Jaunty, even special complex programmers modiffications has been made to whole Ubuntu architecture. Pulse Audio audio server is not more used while installing from A boot menu with accessibility features enabled. The sound preferences function is really switching correctly between various audio servers, such as between Alsa and OSS. Espeak is now reallay using The correspondent Audio server according to The server, which has been chosen from The preferences menu. Debian leny Gnome-live CD from january of this year can not offer You installation of this CD to A hard drive, user must install Orca manually, The problems with root applications are also presented. The update manager and Gnome menu in general is being very simple in Ubuntu Jaunty and in other Ubuntu distro. Do not forget, that core developers of Ubuntu are constantly monitoring, if A new version of At-spi is awailable and if The significant changes has been made to At-spi infrastructure, users can use automatic updates feature. Core developers of Ubuntu are doing their bbest to bring users The latest changes related to various audio servers, including alsa, OSS, Pulse audio. Ubuntu Jaunty is even able to automatically install support for A corresponding language for braille devices, this has never been possible in The previous versions, and other LInux distros are not using this technique. The random crashes of Espeak are reallly gone forever, even while using live CD, so You can safely use Gnome partition editor for manipulating with The disk partitions. Many device drivers are included, including various models of scanners and multifunctioning devices, this is even possible in A .iso image of Gnome-live CD. Ubuntu can be safely and stably installed, without random crashes of Espeak while installing. Ubuntu can be installed while using braille support even in The live mode, if sound cart has not been correctly autodetected during booting up. Ubuntu is including safety warnings related to The most modern Lion batteries in laptop, system will be turned of if a minimum safe stored power in The battery is awailable. Safety warnings are also included in The power manager, if YOur Lion battery is too excharget, this can prevent from The fire on YOur flet. So, really, everybody upgrade to Ubuntu Jaunty. Next future updates of included packages can be installed automatically. Scim devices can be configured. So, I Am wisching You much positive experiences while using Ubuntu Jaunty, and advanced users are welcomed during testing of Ubuntu Kalmic. But please be aware, that even complex changes can be made to vmlinus and other kernel related modules, so do not store important data to The experimental installation of this distro, which is being developed. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: does anyone know of a small live cd with software speech
Dear syr, You can try The Linuxspeaks live CD, this .iso image will have less than400 MB, The Speakup is included. Thank's to The Joe Kamphaus. http://www.joekamphaus.net/live.html This distribution is onlyone, which I Am knowing about, it can be even installed like a standalone distro, no complex algorithms for installing multiple operating systems are included. Give this distro a chance. And tell me, if Your sound cart has been detected. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Installing ubuntu 9.04 with braille support
Dear syr, It is possible to install latest official release of Ubuntu Jaunty by using braille device. The condition is, that Your model of braille display is supported by The Brltty application. The braille devices connected throught The serial port will require special command line parameters. For important information about those situations, study The Brltty home page and The brltty documentation. http://mielke.cc/brltty Brltty will be able to automatically display correctly characters on Your braille display according to The installed language. But may be, that You will have to install special language updates. I experienced crashes of Ubuntu, white screen displaied after performing those language updates. So i had to do it for more than six times to have success. For visually impaired, it will be necessary to perform some administrative tasks outside running Gnome, on A console, i will try to find safe way for terminating Gnome environment and to work with a console. Console screen reader, Yasr and Brltty is awaylable for those situations. And now The procedure. I did not tested alternate installation Cd, but i tested this procedure with official release of Ubuntu Jaunty, not with latest daily live build. So follow my instructions. Insert Your burned CD with Ubuntu Jaunty official release. Boot this CD, when Cd will stop working, press Enter key. Then press F5 function key Then press number 3, not on Your numeric keypad. Press Enter key. Press down arrow key for once. Press enter again and patiently wait, until You will hear install frame message, not press keys when welcome to Orca message will be speaked to You. Then press CTRL+ALT+F2 Type sudo su Press Enter brltty Press enter Or brltty with command line options, which are specific for Your model of braille display. And press Enter again. If Your braille device is USB compatible, Brltty should recognize it automatically. When you will be able to read characters on Your braille device, press CTRL+ALT+F7 You will be back in to installation program for Ubuntu Jaunty. Press insert+space For recalling orca preferences dialog box. Navigate to The OK button. Orca should after several seconds start to communicate with YOur braille device. If You will not want to have speech support, simply disable it by pressing INsert+S. This procedure is i think very safe and would not cause any crashes during installation process. Please let me know, if this procedure will be usable for YOu. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
useful hodkeys for solving crashes of Gnome modules in Ubuntu Jaunty
Dear users, I would like to give You some useful hod keys for The situation, when You will lose speech support and if Gnome will stop to operate. Please remember, that CTRL+ALT+F1 and other key combinations with some of function keys are awailable for You. So if You will not be able to even shut down computer by pressing power button, Gnome shutdown process will not recall, do not panic. Instead of force shutdown,which may corrupt Your harddrive if You will do it very often, press CTRL+ALT+F1. The user name login screen wil appear. Type Your user name followed by pressing Enter key, then type Your password and You will press Enter key again. You will be at The console. You can start brltty or even install Yasr, Yasr is able to work in Ubuntu Jaunty. apt-get install yasr You will be able for example to shutdown your computer from The console. But Gnome data will probably will not be saved correctly, but You will not be forced to shutdown Your computer by forcing shutdown it. YOu are able to switch between console and login prompt and Your Gnome session by pressing CTRL+ALT+F7 for recalling Gnome session or by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 to recall login prompt and after login, YOu will use standard Linux console. So i think, that this information would interest somebody of us. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Gnomespeech or other speech support is stopping to work after first Jaunty update
Dear core developers of Ubuntu Jaunty, After successfully installing Ubuntu Jaunty official release, and after i tried to perform automatic update, The process has been probably completed successfully, but i have lost speech support. I tried to quit Orca without speech support, i tried to reactivate Orca, Gnome did not crashed, ALT+F2 hod key has been usable. Orca tried to reload to RAM, but without speech. To reduce The chance, that system will totally crash, i rather pressed The power button on my notebook and i pressed The space key to confirm shutdown action. This problem has been occurred, when i successfully installed official build of Ubuntu Jaunty, after completing installation, after successfully login and after triing to use automatic update feature from administration sub menu. Please, would Yu try to deeply analyse this issue? Or it would be better for visually impaired to rather use those tools from The gnome-terminal? So for completing upgrade of Ubuntu always type apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade Or aptitude safe-upgrade The synaptic package manager can not be also used with Orca while using it from The menu, so synaptic can be fortunately used from The Gnome-terminal, when user is logged in as a root. Unfortunately, also other tools are not accessible, such as create USB startup disk, but if this algorithm in this program will not put accessibility support to flash disk, it is not problem. Please do not ignore my pleasment. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
tips for working with more at-spi compatible screen readers in Ubuntu Jaunty
Dear users, I would like to familiar You with ammazing possibility. This possibility is, that You can use more than one screen reader in Ubuntu Jaunty in The cases, when Orca will not read some specific list or other part of user interface of a specific application. Eventhough Orca is now onlyone and The best awailable Gnome screen reader, and i do not know about better solution, i would like to write You some procedures, which You would find useful in The case, if You accidentally break Your current Orca installation, or if AYou would try to analyze user interface of some application which Orca can not access. No everybody of us is advanced Python and C programming language developer, so it would be good approach. Firstly, i would like to inform You, that You can always install The fully functioning and stable release of Orca by using gnome-orca package. This package can be uninstalled or reinstalled by using apt-get install gnome-orca apt-get remove gnome-orca So if You would for example accidentally download non functioning Orca development snapshot, You would install it and You would lose Orca support, You can always solve this issue by changing to The directory, where You installed Orca snapshot from. And as A root user in The gnome-terminal ¨ Type make uninstall Thank's to The ammazing feature of Linux architecture, You can even be running Your Orca if it will atleast provide You basic feetback and You can type those commands with speech support. Then, please terminate Orca by using quit function. Then, You can reinstall Orca from official Ubuntu repository by using apt-get install gnome-orca Before You will install Orca from source, please correctly install all components before trying to use ./configure make make install commands. So for building Orca from source, You will need to execute The following commands as A root user. apt-get install libglib2.0-dev python-dev apt-get install git-core gnome-common automake1.9 Then type ./configure make make install If You will follow my instructions, You will be able to successfully install LSR and Sue screen readers too. And You can use those three screen readers without causing software conflicts be each others. Where You can find LSR and SUE screen readers? Those screen readers can be downloaded by using provided direct links and those screen readers are also written by using Python programming language and C programming language. Please be aware, that LSR or Sue can not replace Orca and there can be some stability or other bugs, but You can use those products for The situations, while Orca has been accidentally broken, or if YOu would try to use those screen readers for accessing some applications, which Orca is not able to read. Those applications must be at-spi compatible, in other cases, also those screen readers will not provide You access to those applications. So You can download source code of LSR by using one of The following two direct links. http://download.gnome.org/sources/lsr/0.5/lsr-0.5.3.tar.gz http://download.gnome.org/sources/lsr/0.5/lsr-0.5.3.tar.bz2 After decompressing those archives, You can install them like installing Orca. Where You can download SUE screen reader? The best solution will be to use last development snapshot of this product, so use svn to get this program by using The following hyperlink for downloading source from SVN repository for SUE. https://sue.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/sue/trunk Or You can download The branch of this source by using https://sue.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/sue/tags/SUE_0_4_0 SUE is based on LSR but core developers modified The source code and if somebody want's to help developers during developing this product, everyone is granted to do this. Ubuntu Jaunty is now really stable and speech friendly distro, so do not thesitate to try this distro, core developers are constantly updating this distro, even complex parts of it like kernel image, at-spi. I would strongly warn all users before building at-spi from source, it is much more better to wait, if official build will be awailable by automatic updates feature. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Orca keeps requesting setup!
Dear syr, I Am not sure, if You read my E-mail, which i posted yesterday to The Ubuntu Accessibility mailing list. Did You installed Ubuntu Jaunty by using install choice from The boot screen? So: did You pressed enter after CD stopped whirring, then did YOu pressed F5, did YOu pressed number 3 followed by pressing Enter? And did You pressed down arrow key to set The cursor to The install choice, and did YOu pressed enter? If You installed Ubuntu Jaunty by using install desktop link, The algorithm will not prepare Ubuntu for use with Orca. The only one solution, which i was able to use was to install Ubuntu from The boot screen. By The other words, The algorithm is The same like while installing Ubuntu Hardy Heron. Also Wubi.exe is not able to configure The Orca. And if You can, install Ubuntu by using install choice from The boot screen, but please, do not forget to use F5 and The procedure, which i described. So, when CD stops to whirring, press Enter Then Press F5, type number 3, not number 3 at The numeric keypat. Then press Enter, then press down arrow for once, and press enter again. Be patient, and wait for Orca speech. You can use The choice use entire harddisk to reinstall previously installed Ubuntu. I tested this solution from A dayli live CD build, but i think, that this procedure should work also for The official build. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
How to use Orca after completing installation of Ubuntu Jaunty official version to A hard drive?
Dear core developers of accessibility support in Ubuntu Jaunty. I would like to ask You, how to use Orca after completing The installation of this distro to A hard drive. I used installation program, which i activated from A live CD. Unfortunately, after installation program reboot my computer, when i hear The login audio prompt, i typed my user name, password. The Ubuntu welcome sound has been plaied. But i have probably made a mistake. I pressed ALT+F2 and i executed The Orca command. Orca has been started, but Espeak started to speak abnormally fast, and Orca is not usable. This is also happening, if I booted a live CD and if i did not activated The accessibility feature by pressing F5 and 3 number at The ubuntu boot screen. The core developers of installation routines probably has forgot to enable support of Orca. This is working fine, when activating accessibility feature at The boot screen. But not after finishing installation of Ubuntu Jaunty. I performed The installation when booting from A live Cd with accessibility features enabled. Please, does somebody know, how to solve this issue? ANd i would like to openheardly congratulate Your development team, because Ubuntu is now really usable and stable with Orca and Espeak. This distro, Ubuntu Jaunty is very probably The solution for visually impaired users. You had to probably rewrite some portion of Espeak, may be, that You modified portaudio.h and audio server, which is now being used by Gnomespeech and Espeak, may be, that Alsa, Pulse audio? If it is Pulseaudio, i would like to apologize Mr LUke Yelavich, that i constantly pleased him to not use this audio server. You are making ammazing work. I think, that The system is so stable with Espeak because of complex changes, also Gnome developers rewritten GNomespeech and many Gnome components, core developers of Ubuntu may be also changed some parts of Gnome, source codes of audio server, which is being used, may be that also parts of Espeak source code, portaudio.h. I executed The installer from A desktop icon. Or had i execute this installation routine from a boot screen, by first enabling accessibility support, and then to choose The install item? I AM helpless. I think, that i will be forced to reinstall Ubuntu again. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu Jaunty and Orca
There is very strange aspect of this situation. When user is activating accessibility features at The boot screen, Orca is speaking normally and fluently with Espeak. But when user is triing to activate Orca without enabling those features, Espeak is speaking very fast and is making strange noice. My opinion is, that experts from development team solved issues with Pulse audio, because why Orca is able to speak while booting to A live Cd with accessibility support enabled? And why orca is able to speak even while activating accessibility features at The boot screen and when user is activating install option from a boot screen? My opinion is, that core developers of installation program did not included enabling assistive technology support, so may be, that sighted person would help me to enable this support from a Gnome menu, may be that from preferences menu? If assistive technology support is enabled, The problem is in The HAL and used audio playback. I had experience, that while booting a Ubuntu intrepid live CD, the used default sound output has been different, than The sound output, which is being used when Intrepid is being installed. It is somethink related to HAL. So The solution would be to configure The Jaunty future installation to use The same sound access algorithms, which are used when booting Ubuntu Jaunty live CD by activating accessibility features at The boot screen. But now, Ubuntu live Cd is working better than with Speech dispatcher, without crashes and latencyes while pressing ALT+F2. Core developers also solved issues related to synaptic and other administrative tasks, so visually impaired users or other users of At-spi compatible assistive technology can use those tasks without using gnome-terminal. Even Wubi is using very strange names for themes, so user is confusing, which theme is related to Orca. Braille theme is also causing problems, atleast in The older Jaunty live build. It is very sad and i would like to please core developers to make a update to The Ubuntu repository. Because now, Orca, Espeak and root applications and installation program issues are gone forever, Espeak is working very stable, so why this new shadow effect? Or this effect is only presented on new live CDS? I did not known, that Ubuntu Jaunty has been officially released, so i downloaded Live CD which could be downloaded yesterday from www.cdimages.ubuntu.com Sorry mr Yellavich, that i AM intruding You again, but i AM so close The highly stable Linux distribution, and new complex programmers issue is blocking me. So thank You for any help. With kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Speech-dispatcher as a service?
Blindubuntu even contained yasr screen reader connected to a Speech dispatcher and festival Czech database, so users can use yasr for reading texts displaied in console. Speakup can be added to The installed system too. And braille displays are automatically detected like Ubuntu feisty and Gutsi Gibbon. I would like to thank MR Hanke, that he published this message, because MR Sukany is very clever linux administrator, his knowledge of Linux operating system is ammazing, he is even publishing articles in The Czech magazine Linux Express. I think, that this man could cooperate with core developers of Ubuntu to make accessibility features in The box. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
is Abiword compatible with At-spi architecture and could be made fully accessible with Orca?
Dear core developers of Orca and other users, Do You think, that Abiword could be made accessible with Orca, now, I found out, that many dialogs are accessible without problems, including all menus, but navigation inside opened or newly created document is not available with Orca. Orca can not read and intereact when User is pressing arrow keys or Del and Backspace. Could be possible to also access this edit area in Abiword, or this is not possible, because there are no possibility to get text from this document area, because it is not compatible with At-spi? I AM aware, that openoffice package is fully accessible, but when Abiword is also presented, may be, that it could be possible to make some scripts for accessing document content in Abiword too. If no, please try to tell Me, why is not possible from programmers wiev. Thank You for Your answer. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: workaround for installing ubuntu 8.10?
Oh Yes, Only Ubuntu 8.04 hardy Heron was able to automatically launch installation program from A boot menu, when user pressed F5, choosed accessibility choice for running orca, pressed enter again and thenn user choosed install by pressing down arrow for once. But because probably At-spi architecture is working differently for Intrepid, todays live CD version of Ubuntu, it will be necessary to launch installation program as A root user. In earlyer versions, users had reverse problem, Orca runned as a Ubuntu user, and installation program run like a Root. Now, is probably all working viceversa, but problem is similar, Orca and installation program are working as A different user accounts. There is may be one possibility. Please, try to normally boot to A gnome without trying to access accessibility options by pressing F5. After Gnome will be completely loaded in The RAM, press Alt+F2, run Orca, complete setup questions, do not answer yes when Orca will ask You to logout, press Enter key instead and then press CTRL+ALT+Backspace to restart our popular Xserver, Gnome. After Gnome will be loaded, run Orca again, YOu should hear The Speech. Then try to type exactly A following command to The edit field inside run application dialog box accessed by pressing ALT+F2. sudo ubiquity --desktop %kgtk_ui Will Orca provide speech support inside installation program? If no, try to create The desktop icon in Gnome and save this link to a USB flash drive, and try to use command line which I wrought previously for creating this desktop icon. If You will not be able to use installation program, try The last think, run The command from A terminal window, Activate this Window by activating run application dialog box and type gnome-terminal And when terminal window will appear, type A command, which I described previously. Please if someone will receive error, describe this here, please provide Me a Feetback. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
intrepid live CD dated to 11.10 caused too many crashes
Dear core developers, I would like to inform You, that You very probably solved problems related to sound audio subsystem, so speech is now working correctly without random crashes related to audio subsystem. I tried to use Ubuntu live CD dated to 11.10 and not only, that Orca did not automatically start while using F5 key and used down arrow key for three times and than pressed Enter, but while using Orca, Whole operating system started to be very unstable. Some software servers has been terminated unexpectedly. For example, bomobo or Bonobo server or similar name terminated unexpectedly. Oh, it will be probably very complex to determine The cause. Please, how can I check The Iso integrity to determine, that I AM not downloading corrupted .iso file? Even one subprocess, which is response for displaying desktop items in Gnome crashed. I sended You one error report, but I did not registered successfully in The Launchpad server, because even Firefox crashed while working with WEB content. My question is, if I will send The error reports, if I must register in The Launchpad, or if The error reports can be also send only without registering and could be awailable for development team. I would like to please other users for patient testing, because I think, that official release will be released very soon. And if somethink can be repair, it would be done as soon as possible. Eventhough Ubuntu distribution is very often updated, update manager can update some crucial parts of this operating system without need to reinstall allready installed system, I think, that similar stability related issues could be repaired when official release will be awailable. I can debug similar errors, I used Espeak CS voice, and I did not have many other applications active. Only Mozilla firefox or no other application. Please do not think about Me, that I Am only writing error reports, but I think, that because Ubuntu operating system is very stable without using ATspi and Orca and Espeak driver for Gnome, it is time to do our best to bring as stable Ubuntu distribution usable with Orca as possible. The Ubuntu and Gnome is containing many condition blocks for detecting errors, so lets use it for debug. The problems are very probably not caused by wmlinus or similar Linux kernel components. My opinion is, that those errors are strongly depend on The used sound cart, on The AT-spi and Gnome and Orca and Orca components relationships. Thank You for Your answer. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: braille doesn't work at all under Ubuntu 8.04.1
Dear master and all users and developers, I would like to suggest You constructive approach to solve all accessibility issues related to support for Orca and braille display. Firstly, I think, that core developers of Ubuntu could make new desktop link for starting Orca with brltty. I Am unfortunately not experienced Gnome user, but may be, that adding sudo brltty and followed with line orca could solve problems with automatic braille displays detection. I tried to type gnome-terminal followed by Enter I typed sudo brltty, and my USB connected Tieman braille voyager has been successfully detected, initialized, and Brltty displayed correctly its message screen is not in A text mode. So if Your model will not be automatically detected, may be, that You could try to study command line parameters for Brltty to enable Your specific model of braille display. And please, do not forget to type sudo brltty followed by A specific parameters. You also mentioned about issue, that Orca can not automatically use A correct braille table for selected language. If You meaned by this, that Orca should automatically select right braille table according to The language, which user selected in The boot menu, there is difficulty related to Brltty, not to The Orca Screen reader. Eventhough Programmers fortunately are having procedure for detecting, which language has been selected and they can automatically select specific Espeak person for A specific language, automatically select braille table is not so simply, as some users could think. If user want to use A specific braille table for A specific language, user must modifi The file brltty.conf, which is located in The etc Directory. So open /etc/brltty.conf And try to analyze this file for Your wanted language. The language can begin with # Character. To enable support for A specific language, remove The # character at The beginning of A line, which is assigning The specific language. Please, try to study manual for Brltty or try to directly communicate with developer of Brltty latest version about those changes or if Your language is not awailable. I Am aware, that modifiing this file is only possible, when Ubuntu Hardy Heron or newest Ubuntu live CD version is allready installed on A hard drive. My opinion is, that every think depends on The fact, how many languages are predefined and are awailable in The /etc/brltty.conf file. Please, I would like to please all users of Ubuntu to be more patient, core developers of Ubuntu are doing their best and during next week, problems related to accessibility will be solved. Even problem with Brltty could be I think solved without many problems. If is it possible to type sudo brltty Orca to The Gnome desktop link for starting Orca. In The Ubuntu Feisty and gutsi, Brltty has been started during booting up, much sooner than Gnome has been started. So I think, that brltty has been started with Linux kernel probably. So I Am very sorry, that I can not help You more. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: method for accessing the installer doesn't work in intreped
Dear master, After pressing F5 and number 3 and pressing Enter, try to press down arrow key. This should move a cursor pointer to install choice and then press Enter. If Rapid version of Ubuntu will not reliably launch The Orca while normally booting from A live CD with accessibility options activated by pressing F5 and number 3 followed by pressing Enter and pressing Enter again, there are probably some issue. I tested older release of live CD from August and I had to use normal Orca activation by pressing ALT+F2 after booting to Gnome. I had to answer to several Orca setup questions and than I restarted Gnome desktop by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+Backspace. If some of developers of accessibility architecture for Ubuntu could try The reliability of automatic launching of Orca, it would be good. I did not have problem with automatic launching of installation of Ubuntu Hardy heron released in April, except random crashes of Espeak with Orca, this issue is now with very high probability solved successfully. May be, that every accessibility options will work perfectly in The official release of Repid distribution of ubuntu, because there are many complex programmers tasks which must be solved in The cooperation of Ubuntu development team. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
I have made a mistake
I Am very sorry, The restarting keyboard shortcut for Gnome is CTRL+ALT+Backspace. I Am very sorry for this mistake from my previous E-mail. The name of live CDS of distributions of Ubuntu is not Rapid but Repid, I Am sorry too. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
could You try to think about making language selection menu more accessible?
Dear core developers of Ubuntu accessibility subsystems, I would like to please You, if your development team would be so kind and if You would try to think about making language accessibility menu during booting from A live CD more accessible. Could be very complex to make algorithm, which could enable visually impaired users to choose A specific language by pressing two first letter of a word, which describes A specific language? Visually impaired user can not determine, how many times he or she must press down arrow key to choose language. This choice is very remarkable aspecially when visually impaired user is using Orca and choice to perform A installation of Ubuntu from A boot menu. I Am aware, that if A boot image is written in Assembler language, You do not like to modifi this source code and You are also limited by a syze of boot image file. But if it would be possible, atleast try to think about my suggestion. Thank You very much for Your answer. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
