[Ubuntu-ch] Fwd: Kubuntu Requests
FYI, please all Kubuntu users, give David a hand if you can. BTW, since I need CDs for an event, I can provide Kubutnu 10.04 LTS if you need some Regards, Myriam. -- Forwarded message -- From: David Wonderly darkwingd...@kubuntu.org Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 03:13 Subject: Kubuntu Requests To: Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts loco-conta...@lists.ubuntu.com Greetings: My name is David Wonderly and I am working with the Kubuntu-devel team trying to start a small contact group within the LoCos. As a long time Kubuntu user there were a few times where I wished I could help more within my LoCo but, because the majority use Ubuntu (GNOME) I felt I wasn't doing all I could. What I am trying to accomplish in gathering names and contacts from the LoCo Kubuntu users is to share ideas so that Kubuntu can move further to help the needs of LoCos and Kubuntu users alike. If you could push this request out to the LoCos I would appreciate it. Anyone interested in helping be a part of this please email me darkwingd...@kubuntu.org Thank you for your time and assistance. -DW -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-conta...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
[Maverick] linux kernel 2.6.35-2.3 uploaded (ABI bump)
We have uploaded a new Maverick linux kernel. This brings us up to date with the latest 2.6.35-rc2 mainline kernel as well as fixes some FTBS we saw for armel and ports. Please note the ABI bump: https://www.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.35-2.3 Thanks, Leann -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
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Re: Ubuntu QA Meeting Minutes - 2010-06-09
On 10 June 2010 20:45, Ronald McCollam ronald.mccol...@canonical.com wrote: == Meeting logs == I do not believe that #ubuntu-quality is logged (at least I have been unable to find the logs) so I have put a transcript here: http://people.canonical.com/~fader/20100609.txt Could someone a bit higher up the hierarchy than me send a request for the log bot to r...@ubuntu.com? That's the required procedure to get your channel logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ and I think that the #ubuntu-quality channel would surely benefit from that. Please do note that it seems to be a legal obligation (in some countries?) to notify users in the channel topic that the channel is being logged. Cheers, -- Sense Hofstede [ˈsɛn.sə ˈɦɔf.steː.də] -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Ubuntu QA Meeting Minutes - 2010-06-09
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 02:45:57PM -0400, Ronald McCollam wrote: == Meeting logs == I do not believe that #ubuntu-quality is logged (at least I have been unable to find the logs) so I have put a transcript here: http://people.canonical.com/~fader/20100609.txt == Actions from last meeting == * ara to create hudson+mago branch and write some docs: DONE, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/SharingTestingInfrastructure#Mago%20Tests * ara to talk with IRC council to set up bot in #ubuntu-quality: DONE == SRU Testing (sbeattie) == The latest report as well as an archive of previous ones can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/SRUReports Help testing Stable Release Updates is always needed! You can check what needs testing at: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html == Bug Day status (pedro_) == Last week the Bugsquad team ran a Bug Day for Compiz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100603 Turnout was low due to Alpha 1 also being released that week, using a lot of testing resources. ~15 bugs were triaged that day. The next Bug Day is on gnome-games and work has already begun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100610 Help always welcome! You can join the Bugsquad at #ubuntu-bugs == Blueprints update (all) == Status toward Alpha 2 is available here: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-2.html sbeattie and hggdh are re-evaluating the server tests to verify what is possible and drop the tests that cannot be performed. == Kernel Triage Summit (JFo) == The kernel team is redefining their triage methods. Work is ongoing on this front, but the following wiki pages have information already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Tagging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugReview Additionally they are planning what is hoped to be a twice-yearly event called the Kernel Triage Summit. This will be an online event to help triagers learn how to work with various types of kernel bugs. There will be sessions on how to triage bugs for specific kernel subsystems as well as some general kernel triage sessions. JFo is still preparing information about the event and will be sending out information on several mailing lists. He has also agreed to return to the QA meeting to provide this information there. Finally, he has discussed this on the Ubuntu UK podcast: http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/06/09/s03e09-the-talk-of-the-town/ == Sound Card Compatibility Testing (awbancroft) == awbancroft has pointed out that audio is an area of concern for bugs in Ubuntu. After some discussion, we decided to try a targeted testing program similar to the one we ran last cycle for proprietary video driver tests. awbancroft has agreed to head up this effort and will put together a plan for testing with ara acting as a mentor. There are also several wiki pages with information about audio testing. JFo is working on a central location for these, but until that is ready, the information is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems == Selection of new chair (fader_) == bladernr has agreed to act as chair next week. The meeting will take place at 1700 UTC in #ubuntu-quality. == Location of meetings == ara and bladernr proposed that we keep the meetings in #ubuntu-quality rather than #ubuntu-meeting for flexibility and control purposes. A vote was had and was unanimously in favor of this. Future meetings will take place in #ubuntu-quality. Shouldn't there be an action to update the Fridge about the meeting location then? == Actions == * sbeattie and hggdh to reevaluate server tests * AWB to put together a structured testing program for audio testing (with mentorship from ara) -- Brian Murray Ubuntu Bug Master signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Ritesh Sinha sinha.k.rit...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think this is a big deal (well apart from the Geode issue which is quite problematic and should be patched). Most desktop systems today are running i686 and systems that require 586 support can stick with the LTS which already supports them. I do not understand the need to upgrade to the latest and greatest if you have a machine that is working as required with the LTS. Am still running 9.10 and am happy with it and will only move up when access to the whole set of tools that i need is available. (meaning either offline repos or broad band) It was inevitable, probably in a few years one would see dropped support for 32 bit architectures. so is it better for people buying new machines to think in terms of 64 bit ?? You shouldn't have to worry about that. As far as I know _all_ newer processors support 64 bit instructions (Intel Core Series/Newer Atoms, AMD Athlons/Phenoms). ** To find out what processor you have use this in the command line ~$ uname -m i686 So will probably survive the meerket progress :-) and for any older machines (which according to a reponse in the article are processors older than 1996- whoah way way back so i think most people would be safe ) people can search for an appropriate small version of linux of which there are plenty Exactly. They can also stick with the version that is already working for them. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Sent using the magic of the interwebs. http://ritesh.posterous.com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Easwar Hariharan meindian...@gmail.com wrote: If you are using an MTNL Triband connection, try the following 1]Try wgetting different pages, for example wget www.google.com wget www.yahoo.co.in 2] Check the IP the sites resolve to (part of the wget output) 3] If they are the same, your router probably switches to the wrong PVC at the times you are not able to load pages. My observation when this has affected me is that the problem usually goes away on its own, in a few hours or at max one day. That was valuable input, but I see this problem with firefox, if I avoid firefox everything seems to be normal. Regards, Easwar Registered Linux user #442065 -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:51 PM, K Ramnarayan ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: See article below, Start Article Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686 http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-wont-run.html If you're planning on using Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat on a computer with a processor older than i686, well... you can't. Ubuntu 10.10 will be dropping support for i386-i586 processors so it can take advantage of the i686 optimizations. But there seem to be some issues with this: even some new processors which are especially designed for low power consumption are i586. Such a processor is the Geode LX800 - a pretty new processor for which a bug has been filled on Launchpad but which most probably won't be fixed since Geode LX800 is a i586 processor. Thanks to Manish for the heads up! end article *** My Thoughts: I thought that such moves were what M$ and FrApple would have done, make existing hard ware obsolete. If this is true its absolutely terrible news for ubuntu fans, what it might mean is migrating to another linux which will support a wider range of processors. What do other folks think about this This is surely a bad news, if not to all, but to some... I think Ubuntu or rather any Open Source OS should think about making 100% users happy, and not 99%... M$ made similar attempt in Vista and they failed, but that was much bigger change than what ubuntu has made. So I kind of having mixed reactions to Ubuntu these days... Looking at recent buzz around Ubuntu, I am try phase out to some other OS... ** To find out what processor you have use this in the command line -$ uname -m ** ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:09 AM, VK techn...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:50:25 +0530 From: Mallikarjun(?) mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com Subject: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem To: Ubuntu India Local Communityubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com Dear Friends, I think I have unique problem with firefox, once I start firefox and use Internet, Internet will not work properly, sometime pages load and sometimes doesn't. While this happens, I am able to ping the website... What do you think the problem is??? Any suggestions??? --- Mallikarjun Yesterday (09-Jun-10) I had a similar experience, with MTNL (Mumbai, adsl broadband) internet access. Fortuniately I tracked the issue to this: The ISP's DNS server IPs had been changed (from 59.185.0.50 to 59.185.3.10). The moment I changed my adsl-router DNS settings to follow the ISP's DNS values (instead of the earlier hard-coded IPs) the problem was resolved. Please note that the hard-coded DNS values had been working for a very long time, perhaps at least six months or more. Hope this helps. :( It din't help, I tried Norton DNS, Google DNS... and the problem seems to be the same I am wondering, how could firefox inhibit using internet... Cheers TechNife -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem
2010/6/10 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:09 AM, VK techn...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:50:25 +0530 From: Mallikarjun(?) mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com Subject: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem To: Ubuntu India Local Communityubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com Dear Friends, I think I have unique problem with firefox, once I start firefox and use Internet, Internet will not work properly, sometime pages load and sometimes doesn't. While this happens, I am able to ping the website... What do you think the problem is??? Any suggestions??? --- Mallikarjun Yesterday (09-Jun-10) I had a similar experience, with MTNL (Mumbai, adsl broadband) internet access. Fortuniately I tracked the issue to this: The ISP's DNS server IPs had been changed (from 59.185.0.50 to 59.185.3.10). The moment I changed my adsl-router DNS settings to follow the ISP's DNS values (instead of the earlier hard-coded IPs) the problem was resolved. Please note that the hard-coded DNS values had been working for a very long time, perhaps at least six months or more. Hope this helps. :( It din't help, I tried Norton DNS, Google DNS... and the problem seems to be the same Have you tried leaving ping on for a minute or two? Look for packet drops. Sometime this could be due to a faulty NIC or network cable. I am wondering, how could firefox inhibit using internet... Cheers TechNife -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Sent using the magic of the interwebs. http://ritesh.posterous.com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem
:( It din't help, I tried Norton DNS, Google DNS... and the problem seems to be the same Have you tried leaving ping on for a minute or two? Look for packet drops. Sometime this could be due to a faulty NIC or network cable. I am getting some really valuable suggestions, even if my problem is un-resolved I would not mind... Here are the results... 305 packets transmitted, 305 received, 0% packet loss, time 304299ms Negative result :( Cheers TechNife - -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem
2010/6/10 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com: :( It din't help, I tried Norton DNS, Google DNS... and the problem seems to be the same Have you tried leaving ping on for a minute or two? Look for packet drops. Sometime this could be due to a faulty NIC or network cable. I am getting some really valuable suggestions, even if my problem is un-resolved I would not mind... Here are the results... 305 packets transmitted, 305 received, 0% packet loss, time 304299ms Negative result :( Okay one last suggestion :D . Try running Wireshark in the background when you're browsing. Once you have collected some packets try to see if you any malformed packets (should show up in red). Cheers TechNife - -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Sent using the magic of the interwebs. http://ritesh.posterous.com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Ritesh Sinha sinha.k.rit...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/10 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com: :( It din't help, I tried Norton DNS, Google DNS... and the problem seems to be the same Have you tried leaving ping on for a minute or two? Look for packet drops. Sometime this could be due to a faulty NIC or network cable. I am getting some really valuable suggestions, even if my problem is un-resolved I would not mind... Here are the results... 305 packets transmitted, 305 received, 0% packet loss, time 304299ms Negative result :( Okay one last suggestion :D . Try running Wireshark in the background when you're browsing. Once you have collected some packets try to see if you any malformed packets (should show up in red). I already thought of, waiting for free time Anyway thanks for another nice suggestion Cheers TechNife - -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Sent using the magic of the interwebs. http://ritesh.posterous.com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem (Mallikarjun)
:( It din't help, I tried Norton DNS, Google DNS... and the problem seems to be the same Same problem here, but i'm using BSNL broadband using firefox 3.5. I'd problem in opening sites like iitr.ac.in wordpress.com/ ...etcetra I used google public dns as well as my isp's dns. The problem appears to be same with Fedora 12 too, but Mandriva '08 loads the pages with the same DNS. I'd been facing it from the last 6 months. Have you tried leaving ping on for a minute or two? Look for packet drops. Sometime this could be due to a faulty NIC or network cable. Yes, it pings perfectly but goes into infinite loading of pages from firefox, konqueror, etc but as expected wget doesn't work for the pages . Regards, Ayush hakmn.blogspot.com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:52:48 +0530 From: Ravi Kumar ra2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686 To: Ubuntu India Local Community ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: aanlktil3wxa0ybjdr0l4yfxxv6olh4c85xdhma1ez...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:51 PM, K Ramnarayan ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: See article below, Start Article Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686 http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-wont-run.html If you're planning on using Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat on a computer with a processor older than i686, well... you can't. Ubuntu 10.10 will be dropping support for i386-i586 processors so it can take advantage of the i686 optimizations. But there seem to be some issues with this: even some new processors which are especially designed for low power consumption are i586. Such a processor is the Geode LX800 - a pretty new processor for which a bug has been filled on Launchpad but which most probably won't be fixed since Geode LX800 is a i586 processor. Thanks to Manish for the heads up! end article *** My Thoughts: I thought that such moves were what M$ and FrApple would have done, make existing hard ware obsolete. If this is true its absolutely terrible news for ubuntu fans, what it might mean is migrating to another linux which will support a wider range of processors. What do other folks think about this ** To find out what processor you have use this in the command line -$ uname -m ** ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in Perhaps to me, this is a great news. Old hardware are not going to survive anymore. Where do one find the Motherboards/RAMS/PATA-HDD etc if one got to replace it. The Manufacturers already had obsoleted it. So, its really safe time to take such move. And, it will give better optimizations. And there are always rare-cases (else, why the word RARE). I am sure, it would not disappoint 99.99% of ubuntu users. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/attachments/20100610/2dfe43b9/attachment.htm I think it is a good move. Why tax more than 90% of users with unoptimized code and loads of exceptions for the few who use older systems?? May be an alternate Ubuntu release (like Ubuntu Remix) can be provided for such users using obsolete hardware. Chaitanya Pramod -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686
2010/6/10 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com: This is surely a bad news, if not to all, but to some... I think Ubuntu or rather any Open Source OS should think about making 100% users happy, and not 99%... I don't think it is as bad news as you are claiming. Ubuntu 10.04 is an LTS and hence it will be supported with bug fixes for 3 years. So even those who have very old hardware have a choice of running it for next three years. They will miss new features but that is not necessarily bad. No OS, open source or otherwise, can make 100% users happy. Because no matter what, they always find something to complain about. Open source is about freedom to choose. And that freedom is also valid for distribution makers. They have the right to decide what is best in long run from maintenance point of view. For example. Sparc port of Ubuntu, which is community maintained, will be decommissioned during Maverick cycle. M$ made similar attempt in Vista and they failed, but that was much bigger change than what ubuntu has made. So I kind of having mixed reactions to Ubuntu these days... As you have already said Vista was much bigger change. Vista was not even capable of running on the systems in existence when it was release. Also the so called 'Vista Capable' systems also were not well equipped for Vista's intensive memory/processor usage. Looking at recent buzz around Ubuntu, I am try phase out to some other OS... Debian is a good choice. Also you can try Fedora. Onkar -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686
2010/6/10 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com: This is surely a bad news, if not to all, but to some... I think Ubuntu or rather any Open Source OS should think about making 100% users happy, and not 99%... So, going by your logic, Ubuntu should release an ISO optimised for each processor family cos we are not happy with under-optimised distro. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Unique Firefox Problem (Mallikarjun)
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Ayush Maheshwari ayush.ha...@gmail.com wrote: :( It din't help, I tried Norton DNS, Google DNS... and the problem seems to be the same Same problem here, but i'm using BSNL broadband using firefox 3.5. I am using BSNL broadband too... I'd problem in opening sites like iitr.ac.in wordpress.com/ ...etcetra If you specific sites not opening, then I think you can change DNS and try... may be nortandns, opendns I used google public dns as well as my isp's dns. The problem appears to be same with Fedora 12 too, but Mandriva '08 loads the pages with the same DNS. I'd been facing it from the last 6 months. Have you tried leaving ping on for a minute or two? Look for packet drops. Sometime this could be due to a faulty NIC or network cable. Yes, it pings perfectly but goes into infinite loading of pages from firefox, konqueror, etc but as expected wget doesn't work for the pages . Regards, Ayush hakmn.blogspot.com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Mehul Ved mehul.n@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/10 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com: This is surely a bad news, if not to all, but to some... I think Ubuntu or rather any Open Source OS should think about making 100% users happy, and not 99%... So, going by your logic, Ubuntu should release an ISO optimised for each processor family cos we are not happy with under-optimised distro. I don't mean it, rather I meant, all the current happy users should not be phased out from next release by changing hardware support... -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Onkar Shinde onkarshi...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/10 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com: This is surely a bad news, if not to all, but to some... I think Ubuntu or rather any Open Source OS should think about making 100% users happy, and not 99%... I don't think it is as bad news as you are claiming. Ubuntu 10.04 is an LTS and hence it will be supported with bug fixes for 3 years. So even those who have very old hardware have a choice of running it for next three years. They will miss new features but that is not necessarily bad. You have a valid point... No OS, open source or otherwise, can make 100% users happy. Because no matter what, they always find something to complain about. Open source is about freedom to choose. And that freedom is also valid for distribution makers. They have the right to decide what is best in long run from maintenance point of view. For example. Sparc port of Ubuntu, which is community maintained, will be decommissioned during Maverick cycle. I meant, making current ubuntu users happy M$ made similar attempt in Vista and they failed, but that was much bigger change than what ubuntu has made. So I kind of having mixed reactions to Ubuntu these days... As you have already said Vista was much bigger change. Vista was not even capable of running on the systems in existence when it was release. Also the so called 'Vista Capable' systems also were not well equipped for Vista's intensive memory/processor usage. Looking at recent buzz around Ubuntu, I am try phase out to some other OS... Debian is a good choice. Also you can try Fedora. I am considering Debian and Gentoo Onkar -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Adobe flash player pour linux
Pour fins de clarifications, un paquet transitionnel est un paquet virtuel. Il sert à faire la transition entre une vieille version et une nouvelle version qui porte un nouveau nom. Le paquet transitionnel est là pour aider à faire des mises à jour d'une version d'Ubuntu à une autre, mais ils peuvent être désinstallés une fois la mise à jour faite, car ils ne contiennent rien eux mêmes. Donc si vous avez le choix lors de l'installation entre deux paquets similaires, dont un est un paquet transitionnel, il est toujours préférable de choisir le paquet QUI N'EST PAS transitionnel. - Jean. Le 9 juin 2010 20:09, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Salut! Je crois que c'est le même effectivement, car le nonfree fait référence à un paquet transitionnel, ce qui signifie qu'il est le paquet par lequel un autre paquet est installé... bonne soirée!!! chao! 2010/6/9 Michel Leduc mledu...@videotron.ca Salut Steve Question de clarifier la chose ! 1.- J'aurai du écrire Adobe Flash Plug In 10. Ce sont les deux choix proposés dans la Logithèque Ubuntu 2.- J'ai installé Adobe Flash Plug In 10ce qui a désinstallé Greffon Adobe Flash qui avait un crochet. 3.- En cherchant flashplugin dans synaptic , on trouve, pas installé, le flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.45.2ubuntu1 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package) 4.- Si on cherche Adobe dans synaptic on réalise que celui qui a été installé par la Logithèque est: adobe-flash plugin 10.0.45.2lucid1 Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10 Je garde donc celui proposé par la Logithèque (probablement du pareil au même) Le 2010-06-09 17:04, Steve Nadeau a écrit : Bonjour Michel! j'ai simplement répondu à ta question! ««Doit-on installer Greffon Adobe Flash ou Adobe Plug In 10 ?»» je croyais que ma réponse était claire! bonne soirée! 2010/6/9 Michel Leduc mledu...@videotron.ca Ce que j'ai exprimé est dans la Logithèque Ubuntu ! Le 2010-06-09 14:48, Steve Nadeau a écrit : Bonjour! dans le gestionnaire de paquets Synaptic du menu Système/Administration, il faut installer: flashplugin-nonfree sa description est: Installation du plugin Adobe Flash Player (paquet de transition) bonne fin de journée! Steve 2010/6/9 Michel Leduc mledu...@videotron.ca Le 2010-06-09 12:23, Jean Chicoine a écrit : En effet: 3 chemins qui mènent au même point, à savoir celui des dépôts d'Ubuntu, qu'il est préférable d'utiliser plutôt que les versions sur les sites des tiers-parties. jean Le Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:59:59 -0500, Marc Deslauriers marc.deslauri...@canonical.com a écrit: On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 11:54 -0400, Maxime Maguire wrote: 3 réponses différentes à une question...Vous ne trouvez pas ça déroutant? Pourquoi 3 réponses différentes? On a tous suggéré sensiblement la même chose... Marc. Doit-on installer Greffon Adobe Flash ou Adobe Plug In 10 ? -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Adobe flash player pour linux
Bonjour Jean! merci pour cette information, je l'ignorais! c'est bon à savoir! bonne journée! 2010/6/10, Jean Levasseur levasseur.j...@gmail.com: Pour fins de clarifications, un paquet transitionnel est un paquet virtuel. Il sert à faire la transition entre une vieille version et une nouvelle version qui porte un nouveau nom. Le paquet transitionnel est là pour aider à faire des mises à jour d'une version d'Ubuntu à une autre, mais ils peuvent être désinstallés une fois la mise à jour faite, car ils ne contiennent rien eux mêmes. Donc si vous avez le choix lors de l'installation entre deux paquets similaires, dont un est un paquet transitionnel, il est toujours préférable de choisir le paquet QUI N'EST PAS transitionnel. - Jean. Le 9 juin 2010 20:09, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Salut! Je crois que c'est le même effectivement, car le nonfree fait référence à un paquet transitionnel, ce qui signifie qu'il est le paquet par lequel un autre paquet est installé... bonne soirée!!! chao! 2010/6/9 Michel Leduc mledu...@videotron.ca Salut Steve Question de clarifier la chose ! 1.- J'aurai du écrire Adobe Flash Plug In 10. Ce sont les deux choix proposés dans la Logithèque Ubuntu 2.- J'ai installé Adobe Flash Plug In 10ce qui a désinstallé Greffon Adobe Flash qui avait un crochet. 3.- En cherchant flashplugin dans synaptic , on trouve, pas installé, le flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.45.2ubuntu1 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package) 4.- Si on cherche Adobe dans synaptic on réalise que celui qui a été installé par la Logithèque est: adobe-flash plugin 10.0.45.2lucid1 Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10 Je garde donc celui proposé par la Logithèque (probablement du pareil au même) Le 2010-06-09 17:04, Steve Nadeau a écrit : Bonjour Michel! j'ai simplement répondu à ta question! ««Doit-on installer Greffon Adobe Flash ou Adobe Plug In 10 ?»» je croyais que ma réponse était claire! bonne soirée! 2010/6/9 Michel Leduc mledu...@videotron.ca Ce que j'ai exprimé est dans la Logithèque Ubuntu ! Le 2010-06-09 14:48, Steve Nadeau a écrit : Bonjour! dans le gestionnaire de paquets Synaptic du menu Système/Administration, il faut installer: flashplugin-nonfree sa description est: Installation du plugin Adobe Flash Player (paquet de transition) bonne fin de journée! Steve 2010/6/9 Michel Leduc mledu...@videotron.ca Le 2010-06-09 12:23, Jean Chicoine a écrit : En effet: 3 chemins qui mènent au même point, à savoir celui des dépôts d'Ubuntu, qu'il est préférable d'utiliser plutôt que les versions sur les sites des tiers-parties. jean Le Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:59:59 -0500, Marc Deslauriers marc.deslauri...@canonical.com a écrit: On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 11:54 -0400, Maxime Maguire wrote: 3 réponses différentes à une question...Vous ne trouvez pas ça déroutant? Pourquoi 3 réponses différentes? On a tous suggéré sensiblement la même chose... Marc. Doit-on installer Greffon Adobe Flash ou Adobe Plug In 10 ? -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Adobe flash player pour linux
Pas de quoi, ça ma pris un bout de temps avant de le comprendre, et c'est un concept qui n'est pas assez documenté à mon avis (du moins à ce que j'ai vu). - Jean Le 10 juin 2010 07:15, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour Jean! merci pour cette information, je l'ignorais! c'est bon à savoir! bonne journée! 2010/6/10, Jean Levasseur levasseur.j...@gmail.com: Pour fins de clarifications, un paquet transitionnel est un paquet virtuel. Il sert à faire la transition entre une vieille version et une nouvelle version qui porte un nouveau nom. Le paquet transitionnel est là pour aider à faire des mises à jour d'une version d'Ubuntu à une autre, mais ils peuvent être désinstallés une fois la mise à jour faite, car ils ne contiennent rien eux mêmes. Donc si vous avez le choix lors de l'installation entre deux paquets similaires, dont un est un paquet transitionnel, il est toujours préférable de choisir le paquet QUI N'EST PAS transitionnel. - Jean. Le 9 juin 2010 20:09, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Salut! Je crois que c'est le même effectivement, car le nonfree fait référence à un paquet transitionnel, ce qui signifie qu'il est le paquet par lequel un autre paquet est installé... bonne soirée!!! chao! 2010/6/9 Michel Leduc mledu...@videotron.ca Salut Steve Question de clarifier la chose ! 1.- J'aurai du écrire Adobe Flash Plug In 10. Ce sont les deux choix proposés dans la Logithèque Ubuntu 2.- J'ai installé Adobe Flash Plug In 10ce qui a désinstallé Greffon Adobe Flash qui avait un crochet. 3.- En cherchant flashplugin dans synaptic , on trouve, pas installé, le flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.45.2ubuntu1 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package) 4.- Si on cherche Adobe dans synaptic on réalise que celui qui a été installé par la Logithèque est: adobe-flash plugin 10.0.45.2lucid1 Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10 Je garde donc celui proposé par la Logithèque (probablement du pareil au même) Le 2010-06-09 17:04, Steve Nadeau a écrit : Bonjour Michel! j'ai simplement répondu à ta question! ««Doit-on installer Greffon Adobe Flash ou Adobe Plug In 10 ?»» je croyais que ma réponse était claire! bonne soirée! 2010/6/9 Michel Leduc mledu...@videotron.ca Ce que j'ai exprimé est dans la Logithèque Ubuntu ! Le 2010-06-09 14:48, Steve Nadeau a écrit : Bonjour! dans le gestionnaire de paquets Synaptic du menu Système/Administration, il faut installer: flashplugin-nonfree sa description est: Installation du plugin Adobe Flash Player (paquet de transition) bonne fin de journée! Steve 2010/6/9 Michel Leduc mledu...@videotron.ca Le 2010-06-09 12:23, Jean Chicoine a écrit : En effet: 3 chemins qui mènent au même point, à savoir celui des dépôts d'Ubuntu, qu'il est préférable d'utiliser plutôt que les versions sur les sites des tiers-parties. jean Le Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:59:59 -0500, Marc Deslauriers marc.deslauri...@canonical.com a écrit: On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 11:54 -0400, Maxime Maguire wrote: 3 réponses différentes à une question...Vous ne trouvez pas ça déroutant? Pourquoi 3 réponses différentes? On a tous suggéré sensiblement la même chose... Marc. Doit-on installer Greffon Adobe Flash ou Adobe Plug In 10 ? -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Adobe flash player pour linux
Qui c'est déjà qui a affirmé que ce n'était pas déroutant, tout cela? Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 09:36, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@ubuntu.com a écrit : On 10-06-08 03:55 PM, David Tremblay wrote: Le 7 juin 2010 11:54, gthouingtho...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour à tous. J'ai installé Ubuntu 10.04 . Pour être en mesure de lire certains documents sur le net, on me demande d'installer Adobe flash player 10.0.45.2 On me suggère 5 versions à télécharger. Laquelle dois-je choisir? a) Yum pour linux b) tar.gz pour linux c) rpm pour linux d) deb pour Ubuntu 8.04 e) deb pour Ubuntu 9.04 Merci pour votre aide. Gilles Thouin Dans la logithèque fais la recherche de ubuntu-restricted-extras et installe le pour lire de la musique et des vidéos encodés avec des codecs propriétaires , flash et les polices de caractères microsoft C'est pas la même version de Flash qui sera installée et un paquet d'autres logiciels qui ne sont pas nécessaires seront installés en même temps (sans compter qu'ils ne sont pas libres). Évitons les installations qui ne sont pas nécessaires ;) A+ F. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Adobe flash player pour linux
Je comprend et c'est ok pour les usagers expérimentés dont je fais partie, j'voulais simplement indiquer que si tout le monde y va de sa solution sans commenter quelle serait la meilleure et bien c'est très frustrant pour un nouvel utilisateur Ubuntu. Pour ceux qui veulent attirer ou garder ces nouveaux utilisateurs, appliquons-nous donc à donner des consignes claires. Selon moi il faudrait se concentrer sur la logithèque Ubuntu, dans la mesure du possible. C'est mon humble avis. Bonne ournée Le 10 juin 2010 10:05, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@ubuntu.com a écrit : On 10-06-09 11:54 AM, Maxime Maguire wrote: 3 réponses différentes à une question...Vous ne trouvez pas ça déroutant? Pas vraiment. Parfois on ne tient pas compte du contexte ou de la version quand on réponds. Et ma réponse à cette question a changé plus de 3 fois depuis 6 mois :D Les questions mais aussi les réponses doivent être lues avec un peu d'interprétation, chacun publie ce qui fonctionne pour lui. Venant d'Adobe qui publie(ait) Flash sans le certifier pour Ubuntu avant la version 10.04LTS, c'est normal. Pour Gnash, qui est libre, les instructions n'ont pas changé depuis qu'il est disponible.. Les examples abondent. A+ F. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- - Celui qui est le maître de lui-même est plus grand que celui qui est le maître du monde. - Gautama -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Adobe flash player pour linux
Si on était dans Facebook, je cliquerais sur «J'aime»! Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 11:06, Maxime Maguire maxime.magu...@gmail.com a écrit : Je comprend et c'est ok pour les usagers expérimentés dont je fais partie, j'voulais simplement indiquer que si tout le monde y va de sa solution sans commenter quelle serait la meilleure et bien c'est très frustrant pour un nouvel utilisateur Ubuntu. Pour ceux qui veulent attirer ou garder ces nouveaux utilisateurs, appliquons-nous donc à donner des consignes claires. Selon moi il faudrait se concentrer sur la logithèque Ubuntu, dans la mesure du possible. C'est mon humble avis. Bonne ournée Le 10 juin 2010 10:05, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@ubuntu.com a écrit : On 10-06-09 11:54 AM, Maxime Maguire wrote: 3 réponses différentes à une question...Vous ne trouvez pas ça déroutant? Pas vraiment. Parfois on ne tient pas compte du contexte ou de la version quand on réponds. Et ma réponse à cette question a changé plus de 3 fois depuis 6 mois :D Les questions mais aussi les réponses doivent être lues avec un peu d'interprétation, chacun publie ce qui fonctionne pour lui. Venant d'Adobe qui publie(ait) Flash sans le certifier pour Ubuntu avant la version 10.04LTS, c'est normal. Pour Gnash, qui est libre, les instructions n'ont pas changé depuis qu'il est disponible.. Les examples abondent. A+ F. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- - Celui qui est le maître de lui-même est plus grand que celui qui est le maître du monde. - Gautama -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Adobe flash player pour linux
Pour faire une comparaison j'ai déjà loué une voiture à Paris. Je me suis un peu perdu alors j'ai ralenti et me suis approché pour demander le chemin à un groupe de français. Trois de ceux-ci se sont mis à bavasser en même temps et à gesticuler sur le chemin le plus rapide pour me rendre à mon itinéraire. Et bien savez-vous quoi ? Je leur ai gentiment dit merci et lorsque je suis reparti, j'étais encore perdu :-) Le 10 juin 2010 11:10, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com a écrit : Si on était dans Facebook, je cliquerais sur «J'aime»! Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 11:06, Maxime Maguire maxime.magu...@gmail.com a écrit : Je comprend et c'est ok pour les usagers expérimentés dont je fais partie, j'voulais simplement indiquer que si tout le monde y va de sa solution sans commenter quelle serait la meilleure et bien c'est très frustrant pour un nouvel utilisateur Ubuntu. Pour ceux qui veulent attirer ou garder ces nouveaux utilisateurs, appliquons-nous donc à donner des consignes claires. Selon moi il faudrait se concentrer sur la logithèque Ubuntu, dans la mesure du possible. C'est mon humble avis. Bonne ournée Le 10 juin 2010 10:05, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@ubuntu.com a écrit : On 10-06-09 11:54 AM, Maxime Maguire wrote: 3 réponses différentes à une question...Vous ne trouvez pas ça déroutant? Pas vraiment. Parfois on ne tient pas compte du contexte ou de la version quand on réponds. Et ma réponse à cette question a changé plus de 3 fois depuis 6 mois :D Les questions mais aussi les réponses doivent être lues avec un peu d'interprétation, chacun publie ce qui fonctionne pour lui. Venant d'Adobe qui publie(ait) Flash sans le certifier pour Ubuntu avant la version 10.04LTS, c'est normal. Pour Gnash, qui est libre, les instructions n'ont pas changé depuis qu'il est disponible.. Les examples abondent. A+ F. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- - Celui qui est le maître de lui-même est plus grand que celui qui est le maître du monde. - Gautama -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- - Celui qui est le maître de lui-même est plus grand que celui qui est le maître du monde. - Gautama -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] [Le Soleil] Semaine-clé pour le logiciel libre
Extrait : « (Québec) Marie Malavoy, porte-parole de l'opposition officielle en matière de recherche et développement et innovations technologiques, aura l'occasion aujourd'hui de présenter, au Bureau de l'Assemblée nationale, un projet visant à faire l'essai du logiciel libre sur la colline parlementaire. » à lire au complet sur : http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/science-et-technologie/201006/10/01-4288529-semaine-cle-pour-le-logiciel-libre.php? C'est un premier pas très intéressant. -- Christophe Villemer Savoir-faire Linux, vice-président exécutif FACiL, pour l'appropriation collective de l'informatique libre, Secrétaire, Membre du CA -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] essai de Booble
c'est bel et bien un navigateur séparé de chromium ? ou est-ce un plugin chromium ? ça nous prend des liens ! Une recherche sur google pour 'booble', 'booble web brower' ou 'booble chrome' ne fait que me retourner des résultats à propos de moteur de recherches pour adulte oO 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com Bonjour le monde! Je fais l'essai de ce navigateur web depuis ce matin, c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme... ouvrez GMail avec et voyez la différence... ça ne renvoit RIEN aux serveurs... quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée... je voulais le partager... bonne journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] problème avec le pavé tactile Fuji tsu LifeBook AH550
est-ce que quelqu'un a réussi à faire fonctionner le pavé tactile touchpad de cet ordinateur portable Fujitsu? ou peut-être quelqu'un a eu le même problème... le pavé tactile ne fonctionne que comme une souris 2 boutons... c'est à dire que les défilements vertical et horizontal ne fonctionnent pas même s'ils sont activés dans les préférences souris/touchpad... je ne retrouve rien de correspondant dans lsusb ni lspci... c'est bizarre... voici lsusb: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1690:0741 Askey Computer Corp. [hex] Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04f2:b169 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub et lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 12) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 6 (rev 06) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 4 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06) 00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Thermal Subsystem (rev 06) 10:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) 18:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01) 48:03.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. Cardbus bridge (rev 01) 48:03.2 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MMC/SD Controller (rev 02) 48:03.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD Controller (rev 02) ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02) ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02) ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 02) ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 02) ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02) ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02) ça fait depuis le début de la semaine que je cherche et toujours rien... donc, merci d'avance à ceux qui voudront s'y mettre... bonne fin de journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] essai de Booble
Bonjour Gregory, j'ai corrigé le nom dans un autre message lorsque quelqu'un m'a dit que ça lui retournait des sites pornos... woow vraiment pas pensé à celle là... c'est DOOBLE, il est dans les dépôts... il y a aussi le site, voir dans l'aide et dans la logithèque... c'est en version 0.07, donc très loin d'une version complète, mais je l'ai mis à l'essai en masse, pour le moment, aucun vidéo ne fonctionne, mais il n'y a plus de pub ciblé! et en général, c'est ce qui me plait le plus! le site: http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ recherche : http://www.google.ca/search?hl=frq=DOOBLE+ubuntuaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= bonne soirée!http://www.google.ca/search?hl=frq=DOOBLE+ubuntuaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com c'est bel et bien un navigateur séparé de chromium ? ou est-ce un plugin chromium ? ça nous prend des liens ! Une recherche sur google pour 'booble', 'booble web brower' ou 'booble chrome' ne fait que me retourner des résultats à propos de moteur de recherches pour adulte oO 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com Bonjour le monde! Je fais l'essai de ce navigateur web depuis ce matin, c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme... ouvrez GMail avec et voyez la différence... ça ne renvoit RIEN aux serveurs... quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée... je voulais le partager... bonne journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Adobe flash player pour linux
2010/6/10 Fabian Rodriguez magic...@ubuntu.com On 10-06-08 03:55 PM, David Tremblay wrote: Le 7 juin 2010 11:54, gthouingtho...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour à tous. J'ai installé Ubuntu 10.04 . Pour être en mesure de lire certains documents sur le net, on me demande d'installer Adobe flash player 10.0.45.2 On me suggère 5 versions à télécharger. Laquelle dois-je choisir? a) Yum pour linux b) tar.gz pour linux c) rpm pour linux d) deb pour Ubuntu 8.04 e) deb pour Ubuntu 9.04 Merci pour votre aide. Gilles Thouin Dans la logithèque fais la recherche de ubuntu-restricted-extras et installe le pour lire de la musique et des vidéos encodés avec des codecs propriétaires , flash et les polices de caractères microsoft C'est pas la même version de Flash qui sera installée et un paquet d'autres logiciels qui ne sont pas nécessaires seront installés en même temps (sans compter qu'ils ne sont pas libres). Quel sont les différences entre la version qui vient avec ubuntu-restricted-extras et ceux dans les dépôts canonical ? quel est la nécessité de distribuer 2 versions du même logiciel ? Évitons les installations qui ne sont pas nécessaires ;) Si on est pour parler de logiciels qui ne sont pas libres, n'oublions pas que flash lui-même ne l'est pas. Mais on l'installe quand-même parce-que c'est une partie (malheureusement) encore nécessaire pour avoir une expérience plus complète du web, au même titre que les autres logiciels qui viennent avec ubuntu-restricted-extras (codecs mp3, polices microsoft, etc) sont aussi nécessaire pour avoir une expérience plus complète sur le desktop. C'est un dilemme qui est encore contreversé aujourd'hui : Suivre la voie du puriste et installer AUCUN logiciel avec une license douteuse (je pointe le doigt vers flash entre-autres ici) ou installer quelques logiciels proproétaires qui n'ont pas encore d'équivalents libres de même qualité ? Je ne cherche pas à partir un autre débat sur flash puisque le web est rempli de toutes les réponses possibles sur ce sujet. Mais je trouve important de souligner que même si flash est disponible pour installation facile sous ubuntu, il est loin d'être libéré de contreverse A+ F. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Adobe flash player pour linux
Bonsoir! Il est tout de même disponible à l'usage pour linux comparer à plein d'autre que les compagnies ne daignent même pas les développer sous Linux, c'est un moindre mal... et moi je ne suis pas un puriste, je suis un UBUNTUriste! ce qui m'importe c'est que ça marche en Ubuntu sans wine... bonne soirée... 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com 2010/6/10 Fabian Rodriguez magic...@ubuntu.com On 10-06-08 03:55 PM, David Tremblay wrote: Le 7 juin 2010 11:54, gthouingtho...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour à tous. J'ai installé Ubuntu 10.04 . Pour être en mesure de lire certains documents sur le net, on me demande d'installer Adobe flash player 10.0.45.2 On me suggère 5 versions à télécharger. Laquelle dois-je choisir? a) Yum pour linux b) tar.gz pour linux c) rpm pour linux d) deb pour Ubuntu 8.04 e) deb pour Ubuntu 9.04 Merci pour votre aide. Gilles Thouin Dans la logithèque fais la recherche de ubuntu-restricted-extras et installe le pour lire de la musique et des vidéos encodés avec des codecs propriétaires , flash et les polices de caractères microsoft C'est pas la même version de Flash qui sera installée et un paquet d'autres logiciels qui ne sont pas nécessaires seront installés en même temps (sans compter qu'ils ne sont pas libres). Quel sont les différences entre la version qui vient avec ubuntu-restricted-extras et ceux dans les dépôts canonical ? quel est la nécessité de distribuer 2 versions du même logiciel ? Évitons les installations qui ne sont pas nécessaires ;) Si on est pour parler de logiciels qui ne sont pas libres, n'oublions pas que flash lui-même ne l'est pas. Mais on l'installe quand-même parce-que c'est une partie (malheureusement) encore nécessaire pour avoir une expérience plus complète du web, au même titre que les autres logiciels qui viennent avec ubuntu-restricted-extras (codecs mp3, polices microsoft, etc) sont aussi nécessaire pour avoir une expérience plus complète sur le desktop. C'est un dilemme qui est encore contreversé aujourd'hui : Suivre la voie du puriste et installer AUCUN logiciel avec une license douteuse (je pointe le doigt vers flash entre-autres ici) ou installer quelques logiciels proproétaires qui n'ont pas encore d'équivalents libres de même qualité ? Je ne cherche pas à partir un autre débat sur flash puisque le web est rempli de toutes les réponses possibles sur ce sujet. Mais je trouve important de souligner que même si flash est disponible pour installation facile sous ubuntu, il est loin d'être libéré de contreverse A+ F. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] problème avec le pavé tactile Fuji tsu LifeBook AH550
Merci de l'info!!! je ne connais pas ce pilote, je vais en faire l'essai, comme c'est pour une amie, elle vient de l'acheter ce lundi, elle m'a appelé pour lui installer Ubuntu à la place de Windows7, elle n'y connais rien et elle capote au bout! elle adore, mais comme je l'ai dit, elle n'y connais rien... sauf que je ne l'ai jamais vu auparavant passer autant de temps dans un ordi à vouloir tout essayer... et elle s'amuse... je vais aller la voir en fin de semaine pour vérifier ce pilote... bonne soirée encore! 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com il y a des chances que ça soit un pavé tactile fonctionnant avec le driver synaptics. As tu essayé de chercher pour les options de configuration pour ce driver ? 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com est-ce que quelqu'un a réussi à faire fonctionner le pavé tactile touchpad de cet ordinateur portable Fujitsu? ou peut-être quelqu'un a eu le même problème... le pavé tactile ne fonctionne que comme une souris 2 boutons... c'est à dire que les défilements vertical et horizontal ne fonctionnent pas même s'ils sont activés dans les préférences souris/touchpad... je ne retrouve rien de correspondant dans lsusb ni lspci... c'est bizarre... voici lsusb: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1690:0741 Askey Computer Corp. [hex] Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04f2:b169 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub et lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 12) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 6 (rev 06) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 4 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06) 00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Thermal Subsystem (rev 06) 10:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) 18:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01) 48:03.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. Cardbus bridge (rev 01) 48:03.2 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MMC/SD Controller (rev 02) 48:03.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD Controller (rev 02) ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02) ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02) ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 02) ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 02) ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02) ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02) ça fait depuis le début de la semaine que je cherche et toujours rien... donc, merci d'avance à ceux qui voudront s'y mettre... bonne fin de journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] problème avec le pavé tactile Fuji tsu LifeBook AH550
Salut encore! en cherchant synaptics touchpad avec le modèle d'ordi, je suis tombé sur une page de test et c'est indiqué: The touchpad included on the LifeBook AH550 is a mid-sized ALPS model with some multitouch capabilities. donc je continue en ce sens, merci encore! 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com il y a des chances que ça soit un pavé tactile fonctionnant avec le driver synaptics. As tu essayé de chercher pour les options de configuration pour ce driver ? 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com est-ce que quelqu'un a réussi à faire fonctionner le pavé tactile touchpad de cet ordinateur portable Fujitsu? ou peut-être quelqu'un a eu le même problème... le pavé tactile ne fonctionne que comme une souris 2 boutons... c'est à dire que les défilements vertical et horizontal ne fonctionnent pas même s'ils sont activés dans les préférences souris/touchpad... je ne retrouve rien de correspondant dans lsusb ni lspci... c'est bizarre... voici lsusb: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1690:0741 Askey Computer Corp. [hex] Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04f2:b169 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub et lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 12) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 6 (rev 06) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 4 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06) 00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Thermal Subsystem (rev 06) 10:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) 18:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01) 48:03.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. Cardbus bridge (rev 01) 48:03.2 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MMC/SD Controller (rev 02) 48:03.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD Controller (rev 02) ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02) ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02) ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 02) ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 02) ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02) ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02) ça fait depuis le début de la semaine que je cherche et toujours rien... donc, merci d'avance à ceux qui voudront s'y mettre... bonne fin de journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] essai de DOOBLE
Bonsoir Gilbert! là n'était pas le but! comme je l'ai mentionné, c'est par pur hazard que je suis tombé dessus dans la logithèque et par curiosité... Iron ne fait pas parti des dépôt et je l'ai regardé l'autre jour et il ne m'a pas accroché, rien de plus rien de moins... et le sujet était DOODLE pas IRON, par erreur je l'ai écrit Booble... désolé! bonne soirée! 2010/6/10, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com: Dans le même ordre d'idées, pourquoi pas Iron, «le navigateur Chrome sans Google»? http://www.keeg.fr/2009/05/14/srware-iron-le-navigateur-chrome-sans-google/ Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 19:52, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour Gregory, j'ai corrigé le nom dans un autre message lorsque quelqu'un m'a dit que ça lui retournait des sites pornos... woow vraiment pas pensé à celle là... c'est DOOBLE, il est dans les dépôts... il y a aussi le site, voir dans l'aide et dans la logithèque... c'est en version 0.07, donc très loin d'une version complète, mais je l'ai mis à l'essai en masse, pour le moment, aucun vidéo ne fonctionne, mais il n'y a plus de pub ciblé! et en général, c'est ce qui me plait le plus! le site: http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ recherche : http://www.google.ca/search?hl=frq=DOOBLE+ubuntuaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= bonne soirée! 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com c'est bel et bien un navigateur séparé de chromium ? ou est-ce un plugin chromium ? ça nous prend des liens ! Une recherche sur google pour 'booble', 'booble web brower' ou 'booble chrome' ne fait que me retourner des résultats à propos de moteur de recherches pour adulte oO 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com Bonjour le monde! Je fais l'essai de ce navigateur web depuis ce matin, c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme... ouvrez GMail avec et voyez la différence... ça ne renvoit RIEN aux serveurs... quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée... je voulais le partager... bonne journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] essai de DOOBLE
Salut, Steve, Je sais bien. Mais tu as quand même mentionné dans ton premier post ceci: «c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme [...] quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée» C'est pourquoi j'ai pensé à Iron, qui répond un peu à ça, non? J'aurais dû écrire: «Incidemment, ça me fait penser à Iron...» ;) Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 20:26, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonsoir Gilbert! là n'était pas le but! comme je l'ai mentionné, c'est par pur hazard que je suis tombé dessus dans la logithèque et par curiosité... Iron ne fait pas parti des dépôt et je l'ai regardé l'autre jour et il ne m'a pas accroché, rien de plus rien de moins... et le sujet était DOODLE pas IRON, par erreur je l'ai écrit Booble... désolé! bonne soirée! 2010/6/10, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com: Dans le même ordre d'idées, pourquoi pas Iron, «le navigateur Chrome sans Google»? http://www.keeg.fr/2009/05/14/srware-iron-le-navigateur-chrome-sans-google/ Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 19:52, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour Gregory, j'ai corrigé le nom dans un autre message lorsque quelqu'un m'a dit que ça lui retournait des sites pornos... woow vraiment pas pensé à celle là... c'est DOOBLE, il est dans les dépôts... il y a aussi le site, voir dans l'aide et dans la logithèque... c'est en version 0.07, donc très loin d'une version complète, mais je l'ai mis à l'essai en masse, pour le moment, aucun vidéo ne fonctionne, mais il n'y a plus de pub ciblé! et en général, c'est ce qui me plait le plus! le site: http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ recherche : http://www.google.ca/search?hl=frq=DOOBLE+ubuntuaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= bonne soirée! 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com c'est bel et bien un navigateur séparé de chromium ? ou est-ce un plugin chromium ? ça nous prend des liens ! Une recherche sur google pour 'booble', 'booble web brower' ou 'booble chrome' ne fait que me retourner des résultats à propos de moteur de recherches pour adulte oO 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com Bonjour le monde! Je fais l'essai de ce navigateur web depuis ce matin, c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme... ouvrez GMail avec et voyez la différence... ça ne renvoit RIEN aux serveurs... quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée... je voulais le partager... bonne journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] essai de DOOBLE
y'a pas de trouble... moi j'ai simpleme pensé au fait que c'est un nouveau dans les paquets qui se base sur chrome... bon, à la poursuite de nouvelles découvertes... bonne soirée!!! 2010/6/10 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com Salut, Steve, Je sais bien. Mais tu as quand même mentionné dans ton premier post ceci: «c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme [...] quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée» C'est pourquoi j'ai pensé à Iron, qui répond un peu à ça, non? J'aurais dû écrire: «Incidemment, ça me fait penser à Iron...» ;) Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 20:26, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonsoir Gilbert! là n'était pas le but! comme je l'ai mentionné, c'est par pur hazard que je suis tombé dessus dans la logithèque et par curiosité... Iron ne fait pas parti des dépôt et je l'ai regardé l'autre jour et il ne m'a pas accroché, rien de plus rien de moins... et le sujet était DOODLE pas IRON, par erreur je l'ai écrit Booble... désolé! bonne soirée! 2010/6/10, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com: Dans le même ordre d'idées, pourquoi pas Iron, «le navigateur Chrome sans Google»? http://www.keeg.fr/2009/05/14/srware-iron-le-navigateur-chrome-sans-google/ Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 19:52, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour Gregory, j'ai corrigé le nom dans un autre message lorsque quelqu'un m'a dit que ça lui retournait des sites pornos... woow vraiment pas pensé à celle là... c'est DOOBLE, il est dans les dépôts... il y a aussi le site, voir dans l'aide et dans la logithèque... c'est en version 0.07, donc très loin d'une version complète, mais je l'ai mis à l'essai en masse, pour le moment, aucun vidéo ne fonctionne, mais il n'y a plus de pub ciblé! et en général, c'est ce qui me plait le plus! le site: http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ recherche : http://www.google.ca/search?hl=frq=DOOBLE+ubuntuaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= bonne soirée! 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com c'est bel et bien un navigateur séparé de chromium ? ou est-ce un plugin chromium ? ça nous prend des liens ! Une recherche sur google pour 'booble', 'booble web brower' ou 'booble chrome' ne fait que me retourner des résultats à propos de moteur de recherches pour adulte oO 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com Bonjour le monde! Je fais l'essai de ce navigateur web depuis ce matin, c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme... ouvrez GMail avec et voyez la différence... ça ne renvoit RIEN aux serveurs... quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée... je voulais le partager... bonne journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] essai de Booble
Mais pourtant il existe déja un navigateur chrome sans google, ça s'appelle chromium ! chromium != chrome 2010/6/10 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com Dans le même ordre d'idées, pourquoi pas Iron, «le navigateur Chrome sans Google»? http://www.keeg.fr/2009/05/14/srware-iron-le-navigateur-chrome-sans-google/ Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 19:52, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour Gregory, j'ai corrigé le nom dans un autre message lorsque quelqu'un m'a dit que ça lui retournait des sites pornos... woow vraiment pas pensé à celle là... c'est DOOBLE, il est dans les dépôts... il y a aussi le site, voir dans l'aide et dans la logithèque... c'est en version 0.07, donc très loin d'une version complète, mais je l'ai mis à l'essai en masse, pour le moment, aucun vidéo ne fonctionne, mais il n'y a plus de pub ciblé! et en général, c'est ce qui me plait le plus! le site: http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ recherche : http://www.google.ca/search?hl=frq=DOOBLE+ubuntuaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= bonne soirée! 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com c'est bel et bien un navigateur séparé de chromium ? ou est-ce un plugin chromium ? ça nous prend des liens ! Une recherche sur google pour 'booble', 'booble web brower' ou 'booble chrome' ne fait que me retourner des résultats à propos de moteur de recherches pour adulte oO 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com Bonjour le monde! Je fais l'essai de ce navigateur web depuis ce matin, c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme... ouvrez GMail avec et voyez la différence... ça ne renvoit RIEN aux serveurs... quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée... je voulais le partager... bonne journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] essai de Booble
Salut! pourtant mon premier message était clair! .. Je fais l'essai de ce navigateur web depuis ce matin, c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme... ... 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com Mais pourtant il existe déja un navigateur chrome sans google, ça s'appelle chromium ! chromium != chrome 2010/6/10 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com Dans le même ordre d'idées, pourquoi pas Iron, «le navigateur Chrome sans Google»? http://www.keeg.fr/2009/05/14/srware-iron-le-navigateur-chrome-sans-google/ Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 19:52, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour Gregory, j'ai corrigé le nom dans un autre message lorsque quelqu'un m'a dit que ça lui retournait des sites pornos... woow vraiment pas pensé à celle là... c'est DOOBLE, il est dans les dépôts... il y a aussi le site, voir dans l'aide et dans la logithèque... c'est en version 0.07, donc très loin d'une version complète, mais je l'ai mis à l'essai en masse, pour le moment, aucun vidéo ne fonctionne, mais il n'y a plus de pub ciblé! et en général, c'est ce qui me plait le plus! le site: http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ recherche : http://www.google.ca/search?hl=frq=DOOBLE+ubuntuaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= bonne soirée! 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com c'est bel et bien un navigateur séparé de chromium ? ou est-ce un plugin chromium ? ça nous prend des liens ! Une recherche sur google pour 'booble', 'booble web brower' ou 'booble chrome' ne fait que me retourner des résultats à propos de moteur de recherches pour adulte oO 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com Bonjour le monde! Je fais l'essai de ce navigateur web depuis ce matin, c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme... ouvrez GMail avec et voyez la différence... ça ne renvoit RIEN aux serveurs... quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée... je voulais le partager... bonne journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] essai de Booble
Chrome = Chromium + le logo de Google. En fait, c'est un petit peu plus compliqué que ça. Voir ici: http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-google.html Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 21:54, Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com a écrit : Mais pourtant il existe déja un navigateur chrome sans google, ça s'appelle chromium ! chromium != chrome 2010/6/10 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com Dans le même ordre d'idées, pourquoi pas Iron, «le navigateur Chrome sans Google»? http://www.keeg.fr/2009/05/14/srware-iron-le-navigateur-chrome-sans-google/ Gilbert Le 10 juin 2010 19:52, Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour Gregory, j'ai corrigé le nom dans un autre message lorsque quelqu'un m'a dit que ça lui retournait des sites pornos... woow vraiment pas pensé à celle là... c'est DOOBLE, il est dans les dépôts... il y a aussi le site, voir dans l'aide et dans la logithèque... c'est en version 0.07, donc très loin d'une version complète, mais je l'ai mis à l'essai en masse, pour le moment, aucun vidéo ne fonctionne, mais il n'y a plus de pub ciblé! et en général, c'est ce qui me plait le plus! le site: http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ recherche : http://www.google.ca/search?hl=frq=DOOBLE+ubuntuaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= bonne soirée! 2010/6/10 Gregory Eric Sanderson gzou2...@gmail.com c'est bel et bien un navigateur séparé de chromium ? ou est-ce un plugin chromium ? ça nous prend des liens ! Une recherche sur google pour 'booble', 'booble web brower' ou 'booble chrome' ne fait que me retourner des résultats à propos de moteur de recherches pour adulte oO 2010/6/10 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com Bonjour le monde! Je fais l'essai de ce navigateur web depuis ce matin, c'est en fait un Chrome / Chromium en anonyme... ouvrez GMail avec et voyez la différence... ça ne renvoit RIEN aux serveurs... quelle bonne affaire de ne pas se faire achaler avec de la pub ciblée... je voulais le partager... bonne journée! Steve -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- All musicians are drug addicts, no question about it. The ecstasy we get during a concert is proof enough. yet there is a slight difference between us, the musicians, and the typical 'street-junkie'... Instead of consuming powder, we consume vibrations Will et/ou Gregory Eric Sanderson Turcot Temlett MacDonnell Forbes et/ou Touffa! :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
A couple of weeks ago, I posted about problems I was having, and one of those was recovery, though the grub. Didnt matter what kernel I clicked on it froze and nothing happened. This week, we had a partial upgrade, which cleaned up my grub for me, removing all but two kernels. Problem is, I tried to see if I could get the recovery bit to work, and it still freezes. Somebody posted they would make up a vid on how to get the recovery thing working. Does anybody know how I can get it working? Thanks. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Canon PIXMA iP2500 error codes
On 09/06/10 08:35, Colin Law wrote: For my ip4300 this information is in the manual, which is provided on CD as an installable windows package, not as paper. Luckily it installs and runs happily in Wine on Ubuntu. Or at least it did until I just went to open it to see what 7 flashes means on the 4300, now it won't run. Damn. I tried to look at the manual on the driver disk I have and found I couldn't access it either... :@( Since you changed a cartridge have you checked that the lights on the cartridge holder are not flashing? Assuming it has them of course. I can't see any lights apart from the two on the top of the machine. That has probably been no help at all, sorry. Thank you for trying. It did give me some ideas even if they didn't play out. I assumed it was something to do with the cartridge and took it out. Flashing pattern changed [1/1]. Put it back in and it changed again to a different pattern than before [1/5]. Seems the printer can't make up its mind what's wrong... Does anyone have any idea what the printer is trying to tell me Why do printer manufacturers have to make things so cryptic? It saves on the cost of the printer I suppose. Colin Again, thanks Colin. You'd think with the obscene profits they make from ink, they could afford to put a simple text screen on the damn thing! -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Canon PIXMA iP2500 error codes
On 09/06/10 15:28, Jack Cheesman wrote: For Pixma ip3600: From onscreen manual: Seven Flashes: Ink tank is not installed in the correct position. Some ink tanks are not installed in the correct position. (The lamps on the ink tanks flash.) More than one ink tanks of the same color are installed. (The lamps on the ink tanks flash.) Confirm that the ink tanks are installed in the appropriate positions. Hope that helps Jack Thanks, Jack! As mentioned to Colin, there are no lights but the top ones on my printer. My printer has two tanks, one black, one colour. I'm not sure it's possible to mix them up as they are of different sizes... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Canon PIXMA iP2500 error codes
On 10 June 2010 08:21, Wulfy wulfm...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: On 09/06/10 08:35, Colin Law wrote: For my ip4300 this information is in the manual, which is provided on CD as an installable windows package, not as paper. Luckily it installs and runs happily in Wine on Ubuntu. Or at least it did until I just went to open it to see what 7 flashes means on the 4300, now it won't run. Damn. I tried to look at the manual on the driver disk I have and found I couldn't access it either... :@( If it is a windows application to view the manual then you need to install Wine first, then (with luck) you will be able to install and view the manual s/w. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] fail2ban custom iptables rules
Hi Chris, It certainly is. Attached are samples of my iptables-restore and fail2ban configs for hardy-based servers. Hi Tyler, Thanks for taking the time to share your config, I really appreciate it! :-) Thanks, Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Home brew for WiFi network routers
Hi I know about tomato and one or two others but was wondering: 1. I did not buy the hard ware as yet so this should not be a problem. 2. I would like to connect 2 or more WiFi routers together WIRELESSLY 3. I do not need the routers to be on different subnets BUT might have 1 or 2 on different subnets 4. What home brew do you consider to be the best for replacing firmware on the WiFi routers thanx -- _ Cornelius Mostert Senior IT Specialist United Kingdom: 075 2233 4818 International: 0044 75 2233 4818 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home brew for WiFi network routers
On 10 June 2010 11:46, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi I know about tomato and one or two others but was wondering: 1. I did not buy the hard ware as yet so this should not be a problem. 2. I would like to connect 2 or more WiFi routers together WIRELESSLY 3. I do not need the routers to be on different subnets BUT might have 1 or 2 on different subnets 4. What home brew do you consider to be the best for replacing firmware on the WiFi routers OpenWRT is the best supported to my knowledge, and there are plenty of recipes around for it, including building mesh networks. Wireless Distribution System is a common method of interconnecting multiple routers but doesn't work between different vendors. s/ -- Save BBC 6 Music http://www.love6music.com My CV: http://bit.ly/sfgreenwood_cv Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonfgreenwood Twitter: @sfgreenwood -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home brew for WiFi network routers
Simon Greenwood wrote: On 10 June 2010 11:46, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi I know about tomato and one or two others but was wondering: 1. I did not buy the hard ware as yet so this should not be a problem. 2. I would like to connect 2 or more WiFi routers together WIRELESSLY 3. I do not need the routers to be on different subnets BUT might have 1 or 2 on different subnets 4. What home brew do you consider to be the best for replacing firmware on the WiFi routers OpenWRT is the best supported to my knowledge, and there are plenty of recipes around for it, including building mesh networks. Wireless Distribution System is a common method of interconnecting multiple routers but doesn't work between different vendors. I have WDS working between Netgear and Tenda routers here, without having to use custom firmware. Buying hardware from the same manufacturer might improve the chances of avoiding compatibility problems, but is no guarantee that they can be linked with WDS. I have another Netgear router here which will not do WDS at all. Look for WDS support in the router specs if buying new hardware to do this. -- JimP -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home brew for WiFi network routers
On 10 June 2010 12:47, Jim Price d1vers...@hotmail.com wrote: Simon Greenwood wrote: On 10 June 2010 11:46, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi I know about tomato and one or two others but was wondering: 1. I did not buy the hard ware as yet so this should not be a problem. 2. I would like to connect 2 or more WiFi routers together WIRELESSLY 3. I do not need the routers to be on different subnets BUT might have 1 or 2 on different subnets 4. What home brew do you consider to be the best for replacing firmware on the WiFi routers OpenWRT is the best supported to my knowledge, and there are plenty of recipes around for it, including building mesh networks. Wireless Distribution System is a common method of interconnecting multiple routers but doesn't work between different vendors. I have WDS working between Netgear and Tenda routers here, without having to use custom firmware. Buying hardware from the same manufacturer might improve the chances of avoiding compatibility problems, but is no guarantee that they can be linked with WDS. I have another Netgear router here which will not do WDS at all. Look for WDS support in the router specs if buying new hardware to do this. You're right, I missed an 'always' there. If I had the option I would try and build a mesh using OpenWRT routers but my Airport Expresses talk happily to each other using WDS (although they don't seem to talk to anything else). s/ -- Save BBC 6 Music http://www.love6music.com My CV: http://bit.ly/sfgreenwood_cv Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonfgreenwood Twitter: @sfgreenwood -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home brew for WiFi network routers
On 10/06/10 11:46, Cornelius Mostert wrote: Hi I know about tomato and one or two others but was wondering: 1. I did not buy the hard ware as yet so this should not be a problem. 2. I would like to connect 2 or more WiFi routers together WIRELESSLY 3. I do not need the routers to be on different subnets BUT might have 1 or 2 on different subnets 4. What home brew do you consider to be the best for replacing firmware on the WiFi routers If it's just a case of connecting two wireless routers together (for instance to link two areas in a building wirelessly because sticking cables in isn't an option) then you can possibly get away with something like this (although I believe it won't run anything like DD-WRT/Tomato etc): http://tinyurl.com/2f7sjwt As far as home brew router software goes, I personally like DD-WRT, it's got a nice easy to use clean interface and workes well on my two Linksys devices (a WRT54G and a single ethernet port wireless access point). I've also tried OpenWRT which also worked pretty well. I did try Tomato but didn't get on with it, but that's not to say you won't though, I think it was just a case of I was looking for a quick easy solution. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 08:20, John Matthews wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I posted about problems I was having, and one of those was recovery, though the grub. Didnt matter what kernel I clicked on it froze and nothing happened. This week, we had a partial upgrade, which cleaned up my grub for me, removing all but two kernels. Problem is, I tried to see if I could get the recovery bit to work, and it still freezes. Somebody posted they would make up a vid on how to get the recovery thing working. Does anybody know how I can get it working? Thanks. John Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a suggestion to help you I'm sure they will read and respond when they can. Alan -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] PHP security
I'm migrating a web server with a few sites from a CentOS based VPS with a DirectAdmin control panel to an Ubuntu Lucid server. I'm not incredibly bothered about losing the control panel, but I wondered if anyone had any advice on securing PHP scripts so that scripts owned by separate 'site owners' don't interfere with one and other. I've looked at suPHP ITK-MPM but as I've not used either before I'm not sure of the pros and cons. Anyone out there running this kind of setup with any advice to offer? If you intend to run more than one site from this server, you might consider installing webmin and virtualmin. It'll make this easier. Install the apache2-suexec package if all web files are under /var/www and if you want PHP scripts to run as the user (site owner). If your files will be elsewhere, such as /home/domainname, install apache2-suexec-custom and configure it for the appropriate root. You'll need to run PHP as cgi or fastcgi. That means no Apache PHP module, and using the Apache worker or ITK MPM. Regards, Tyler Thanks again Tyler, I'm going to have to start paying you consultancy! I'll do some reading up on this. I've not really had to worry about random users hosing a server with a dodgy php script before so it's great to have somewhere to start! Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On Thursday 10 June 2010 23:44:29 Alan Bell wrote: ah, interesting, this is new information. A fresh install of Lucid does not show grub at all unless you hold shift, although thinking about it it might have to for dual boot setups. At the top of the grub screen it should list the version number of grub. Does it start with 1.98? Grub2 shows a boot menu if it detects more than one operating system. Otherwise it is hidden as you say. In this case it's detecting his WinXP partition and therefore showing a boot menu. Regards, Tyler -- Before we got into this war there were countless 'military experts' and intelligence analysts that told us this was a good idea, that we had to do it. That presented their information, and were so terribly wrong. These people are still affecting public policy. They are still considered experts. I'm sorry, shouldn't there be a rule or law that says if you fuck things up so badly, you can no longer be considered an expert? -- Tim Robbins -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 19:33, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a suggestion to help you I'm sure they will read and respond when they can. Alan Thank you Alan, the thing is though, I asked this question 2 or 3 weeks ago, and I'm still waiting from then, so in effect this question is over two weeks old. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10 June 2010 23:28, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: On 10/06/10 23:21, Alan Bell wrote: John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. What I have told is all that happens. I click on the recover link under the kernal when in the grub, and it freezes after about 20 secs. Nothing else happens, no script comes up, no other boxes, I cannot get into a terminal. It just freezes. That is all that happens. So if something happens again, when I update to do a partial upgrade, I cant do anything to fix it, as I done have access to recovery when booting. Please excuse me when I ask, what value is there, for me to post about similar bugs. I just dont understand what that will do to help. I am just telling you exactly what happens on my pc. Please help me to understand what that will do to help you, then I will try to find those similar bugs again. John As well as you providing helpful information to the developers about how you have reproduced a bug if you can find one that is similar there are often suggestions in the comments of bugs (or answers) which may give me a clue as to what is going on with your problem, and how to fix it, even if they don't sound that helpful to you. So if you just turn on the PC it normally boots straight to the login screen, you only see grub if you hold down shift whilst powering up? Alan. The grub appears as its booting up. It has a list of two kernels with recvoery underneath and a few other things, including the xp partition, that I tried getting help for months ago, but that didnt get anywhere either. I then learnt by accident, that this grub had a bug, which wasnt posted about until after I had done the partition, and screwed it up the first time, and tried again, giving myself two ubuntu partitions and an xp partition, if you added more than two things to a partition it screwed up the windows partiition. When I initially did the partition, it f**D up my xp, which was just installed by the people who repaired my pc. So I can only use Ubuntu on this pc. Screwed there. The kernels are Ubuntu 2.6.32-22 and .21, Plus a couple of other things like I already posted about. Sorry, I am too tired, been at this for way too long. -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Hi Have you tried removing *splash quiet form the recovery boot options? You might get some extra error messages that may help... (Press e in the grub menu when Recovery line is highlighted) -- Regards Bill Cumming Twitter: @s0l_uk Skype: s0litaire eMail: b...@s0l.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: I have actually asked if I could get some paid help, and all I got was this pre written e-mail sent telling nothing useful. John Another thing you could do if you want a more interactive conversation (which the rapid emails indicate that you might) is to get on to IRC and join the #ubuntu-uk channel. There is a much better chance of someone walking through a longer procedure (like chroot from a live CD as I see on an old email) interactively than trying to describe all the steps in an email. I think we should be more willing to bump people from email to IRC when a problem needs interactivity to solve it. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IRC Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 19:33, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a suggestion to help you I'm sure they will read and respond when they can. Alan It also kind of negates this 'Improving Support' thread really, doesnt it, nothing has really changed has it, the same thing comes across, you are all 'just' volunteers, which you do push down peoples throats. I wish I could something about it, I would like to be able to help, but I cant, I dont know enough, which makes things things kind awkward. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: Yes, but unfortunately, that hasnt been a very good option for me either. I prefer the e-mail to be honest. John Email is good when you just want one answer to a question. If you want someone to help you do something then IRC is better. People don't reply to emails saying I have no idea because it isn't a particularly useful response and a few hours later someone else might read it who knows exactly what is going on. So your current situation is that you have a working Ubuntu installation, but if you hold shift to get to the grub menu there is some kind of issue with the recovery console. It isn't clear to me why you are attempting to go to the recovery console if the main desktop works. So far I think you have described the issue with the recovery console as a total freeze, with no additional information available upon which to base a diagnosis. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 21:19, Alan Bell wrote: John Matthews wrote: Yes, but unfortunately, that hasnt been a very good option for me either. I prefer the e-mail to be honest. John Email is good when you just want one answer to a question. If you want someone to help you do something then IRC is better. People don't reply to emails saying I have no idea because it isn't a particularly useful response and a few hours later someone else might read it who knows exactly what is going on. So your current situation is that you have a working Ubuntu installation, but if you hold shift to get to the grub menu there is some kind of issue with the recovery console. It isn't clear to me why you are attempting to go to the recovery console if the main desktop works. So far I think you have described the issue with the recovery console as a total freeze, with no additional information available upon which to base a diagnosis. Alan. Unfortunately. that is all that happens, you click on the recovery link, and it goes black, then it freezes, and you cant do anything at all after. That goes for each kernel recovery link. Until that update a couple of weeks ago it worked. The reason I want it to work, is on a couple of occasions after updates, I havent been able to get the desktop to load, and I have managed by going into the recovery, to fix it. So being without it now, is a bit useless really. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 19:33, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a suggestion to help you I'm sure they will read and respond when they can. Alan As well as that, if I remember correctly, and unless that person was extracting the michael (taking the piss for those who dont know), a certain person, and I cant remember what it is called, said they would make a video, to try show me how to try and fix it. I am very aware of the fact that you are all volunteers on here, its been mentioned on quite a few occasions. Thank you anyway, I really appreciate the help. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: It also kind of negates this 'Improving Support' thread really, doesnt it, nothing has really changed has it, the same thing comes across, you are all 'just' volunteers, which you do push down peoples throats. I wish I could something about it, I would like to be able to help, but I cant, I dont know enough, which makes things things kind awkward. John One interesting effect of the group support vs one on one support is that with group support if there is some weird problem that nobody understands (which may be down to the way it is described) then you get silence as a response, rather than I haven't got the foggiest idea what is going on which you might get with individual support. You can respond to silence by adding information such as things you have tried but didn't work. You also get people dipping in to the conversation, I for example have no recollection of what you were talking about several weeks ago. Sounds like you have some kind of issue booting though. Does a live CD work? could you reinstall? maybe install again as a dual boot? Is there any suspicious hardware involved? (unplug everything that you possibly can with it still able to boot) Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 20:50, Alan Bell wrote: One interesting effect of the group support vs one on one support is that with group support if there is some weird problem that nobody understands (which may be down to the way it is described) then you get silence as a response, rather than I haven't got the foggiest idea what is going on which you might get with individual support. You can respond to silence by adding information such as things you have tried but didn't work. You also get people dipping in to the conversation, I for example have no recollection of what you were talking about several weeks ago. Sounds like you have some kind of issue booting though. Does a live CD work? could you reinstall? maybe install again as a dual boot? Is there any suspicious hardware involved? (unplug everything that you possibly can with it still able to boot) Alan. Hi Alan, thank you for your response. You see, the way it should be looked at isnt just not replaying at all, it should be somebody saying what the hell you are talking about, at least then, it doesnt look like you are being ignored. I cant exactly remember myself now, but I think it was after an update, and things wouldnt boot up, it got to me signing in and then nothing. It worked after about 4 attempts and logging into a really early kernal, but I coudnt get into the rescue bit, it froze. I ended up upgrading again from that early kernal, and it seemed to work ok. I can boot now, and after the partial upgrade of this week, its cleaned up my grub, but even that has not fixed the rescue bit. I try to get into it, and it just freezes and all I can do is use the button on the front of the pc to get things back up and running. John. -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: What is the point of having IRC chat and this e-mail chat, when nobody is prepared to help. Its kind of really a piss take when you get threads that talk about changing the way support is given, but all you get is those same people can just barely post to take you to task, yet they cant be bothered to post to help. I am not observing a lack of willingness to help, however I am observing a lack of ability to help based on the information provided. Launchpad, well that is a joke too. You go through, and find out all the things that I have asked about on there, and you will find the same results as here, posts gone unanswered. So you will have to excuse me, if I dont bother. Can you point me at some bug numbers please which you believe have the same symptoms as you are experiencing. If you click the me too link at the top of a bug it helps the developers to understand how common a scenario is which is important because it indicates how reproduceable a problem might be. The only reason I bother coming back is cause I cant not use Ubuntu, I just cant afford it to reformat everything. Believe me, I dislike doing this even more than you do. If I could learn I would do it myself. I would even try to help. But I cant. So I am stuck. I would encourage you to take steps that would lead to more information being available, the more information you can provide the more likely it is that someone will understand what is occurring. Installing a small dual boot partition might provide interesting additional information. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 23:00, Chris Rowson wrote: What is the point of having IRC chat and this e-mail chat, when nobody is prepared to help. Its kind of really a piss take when you get threads that talk about changing the way support is given, but all you get is those same people can just barely post to take you to task, yet they cant be bothered to post to help. Launchpad, well that is a joke too. You go through, and find out all the things that I have asked about on there, and you will find the same results as here, posts gone unanswered. So you will have to excuse me, if I dont bother. The only reason I bother coming back is cause I cant not use Ubuntu, I just cant afford it to reformat everything. Believe me, I dislike doing this even more than you do. If I could learn I would do it myself. I would even try to help. But I cant. So I am stuck. Sorry, does that mean that you've tried using the answers system or not? Chris Yes I have tried using the answer system, and posting questions, but havent been able to get an answer. I got told a couple of weeks ago somebody on here had an answer, and was going to post a video to help. But, as I posted earlier, nothing has been done, which is why a couple of weeks later, I was asking again. To be told that your too busy, cause your all volunteers. You will have to excuse me for being so pissed off, seems to be the order of the day here. -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 23:04, Alan Bell wrote: I would encourage you to take steps that would lead to more information being available, the more information you can provide the more likely it is that someone will understand what is occurring. Installing a small dual boot partition might provide interesting additional information. Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. What I have told is all that happens. I click on the recover link under the kernal when in the grub, and it freezes after about 20 secs. Nothing else happens, no script comes up, no other boxes, I cannot get into a terminal. It just freezes. That is all that happens. So if something happens again, when I update to do a partial upgrade, I cant do anything to fix it, as I done have access to recovery when booting. Please excuse me when I ask, what value is there, for me to post about similar bugs. I just dont understand what that will do to help. I am just telling you exactly what happens on my pc. Please help me to understand what that will do to help you, then I will try to find those similar bugs again. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] PHP security
Hello server admins! I'm migrating a web server with a few sites from a CentOS based VPS with a DirectAdmin control panel to an Ubuntu Lucid server. I'm not incredibly bothered about losing the control panel, but I wondered if anyone had any advice on securing PHP scripts so that scripts owned by separate 'site owners' don't interfere with one and other. I've looked at suPHP ITK-MPM but as I've not used either before I'm not sure of the pros and cons. Anyone out there running this kind of setup with any advice to offer? As always, thanks in advance :-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: The grub appears as its booting up. It has a list of two kernels with recvoery underneath and a few other things, including the xp partition, that I tried getting help for months ago, but that didnt get anywhere either. I then learnt by accident, that this grub had a bug, which wasnt posted about until after I had done the partition, and screwed it up the first time, and tried again, giving myself two ubuntu partitions and an xp partition, if you added more than two things to a partition it screwed up the windows partiition. When I initially did the partition, it f**D up my xp, which was just installed by the people who repaired my pc. So I can only use Ubuntu on this pc. Screwed there. The kernels are Ubuntu 2.6.32-22 and .21, Plus a couple of other things like I already posted about. Sorry, I am too tired, been at this for way too long. ah, interesting, this is new information. A fresh install of Lucid does not show grub at all unless you hold shift, although thinking about it it might have to for dual boot setups. At the top of the grub screen it should list the version number of grub. Does it start with 1.98? Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] PHP security
On Thursday 10 June 2010 23:19:28 Chris Rowson wrote: I'm migrating a web server with a few sites from a CentOS based VPS with a DirectAdmin control panel to an Ubuntu Lucid server. I'm not incredibly bothered about losing the control panel, but I wondered if anyone had any advice on securing PHP scripts so that scripts owned by separate 'site owners' don't interfere with one and other. I've looked at suPHP ITK-MPM but as I've not used either before I'm not sure of the pros and cons. Anyone out there running this kind of setup with any advice to offer? If you intend to run more than one site from this server, you might consider installing webmin and virtualmin. It'll make this easier. Install the apache2-suexec package if all web files are under /var/www and if you want PHP scripts to run as the user (site owner). If your files will be elsewhere, such as /home/domainname, install apache2-suexec-custom and configure it for the appropriate root. You'll need to run PHP as cgi or fastcgi. That means no Apache PHP module, and using the Apache worker or ITK MPM. Regards, Tyler -- One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 21:19, Alan Bell wrote: Email is good when you just want one answer to a question. If you want someone to help you do something then IRC is better. People don't reply to emails saying I have no idea because it isn't a particularly useful response and a few hours later someone else might read it who knows exactly what is going on. So your current situation is that you have a working Ubuntu installation, but if you hold shift to get to the grub menu there is some kind of issue with the recovery console. It isn't clear to me why you are attempting to go to the recovery console if the main desktop works. So far I think you have described the issue with the recovery console as a total freeze, with no additional information available upon which to base a diagnosis. Alan. Isnt it funny really, you are all too busy to answer an e-mail, because you are all volunteers, yet you arent too busy to chat quite avidly about games and things like that on IRC. From what I see that happens all day on IRC. No wonder you dont have the time. Yep, really helpful. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 22:39, Chris Rowson wrote: John Matthews wrote: Isnt it funny really, you are all too busy to answer an e-mail, because you are all volunteers, yet you arent too busy to chat quite avidly about games and things like that on IRC. From what I see that happens all day on IRC. No wonder you dont have the time. Yep, really helpful. John I don't talk about games on IRC, there may be a channel about games but I am not aware of such a thing. As I explained, a lack of response on email could mean that nobody knows the answer to your question, it does not necessarily indicate an overwhelming time pressure. If you want interactive assistance then IRC is the better medium. If you have a question to which there is an answer then email can work well. Alan. Evening John, To be honest I haven't got a clue what's causing the problem. If you haven't already, you might want to try posting your question here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu Cheers, Chris What is the point of having IRC chat and this e-mail chat, when nobody is prepared to help. Its kind of really a piss take when you get threads that talk about changing the way support is given, but all you get is those same people can just barely post to take you to task, yet they cant be bothered to post to help. Launchpad, well that is a joke too. You go through, and find out all the things that I have asked about on there, and you will find the same results as here, posts gone unanswered. So you will have to excuse me, if I dont bother. The only reason I bother coming back is cause I cant not use Ubuntu, I just cant afford it to reformat everything. Believe me, I dislike doing this even more than you do. If I could learn I would do it myself. I would even try to help. But I cant. So I am stuck. -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: Isnt it funny really, you are all too busy to answer an e-mail, because you are all volunteers, yet you arent too busy to chat quite avidly about games and things like that on IRC. From what I see that happens all day on IRC. No wonder you dont have the time. Yep, really helpful. John I don't talk about games on IRC, there may be a channel about games but I am not aware of such a thing. As I explained, a lack of response on email could mean that nobody knows the answer to your question, it does not necessarily indicate an overwhelming time pressure. If you want interactive assistance then IRC is the better medium. If you have a question to which there is an answer then email can work well. Alan. Evening John, To be honest I haven't got a clue what's causing the problem. If you haven't already, you might want to try posting your question here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu Cheers, Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 19:33, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 10/06/10 19:08, John Matthews wrote: snip / Ok, I posted this almost 12 hours ago, I just wondered can somebody help please? Hi John, we are all volunteers and normal people on this list offering advice for free. If someone has a suggestion to help you I'm sure they will read and respond when they can. Alan I have actually asked if I could get some paid help, and all I got was this pre written e-mail sent telling nothing useful. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. What I have told is all that happens. I click on the recover link under the kernal when in the grub, and it freezes after about 20 secs. Nothing else happens, no script comes up, no other boxes, I cannot get into a terminal. It just freezes. That is all that happens. So if something happens again, when I update to do a partial upgrade, I cant do anything to fix it, as I done have access to recovery when booting. Please excuse me when I ask, what value is there, for me to post about similar bugs. I just dont understand what that will do to help. I am just telling you exactly what happens on my pc. Please help me to understand what that will do to help you, then I will try to find those similar bugs again. John As well as you providing helpful information to the developers about how you have reproduced a bug if you can find one that is similar there are often suggestions in the comments of bugs (or answers) which may give me a clue as to what is going on with your problem, and how to fix it, even if they don't sound that helpful to you. So if you just turn on the PC it normally boots straight to the login screen, you only see grub if you hold down shift whilst powering up? Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: Isnt it funny really, you are all too busy to answer an e-mail, because you are all volunteers, yet you arent too busy to chat quite avidly about games and things like that on IRC. From what I see that happens all day on IRC. No wonder you dont have the time. Yep, really helpful. John I don't talk about games on IRC, there may be a channel about games but I am not aware of such a thing. As I explained, a lack of response on email could mean that nobody knows the answer to your question, it does not necessarily indicate an overwhelming time pressure. If you want interactive assistance then IRC is the better medium. If you have a question to which there is an answer then email can work well. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 21:03, Alan Bell wrote: John Matthews wrote: I have actually asked if I could get some paid help, and all I got was this pre written e-mail sent telling nothing useful. John Another thing you could do if you want a more interactive conversation (which the rapid emails indicate that you might) is to get on to IRC and join the #ubuntu-uk channel. There is a much better chance of someone walking through a longer procedure (like chroot from a live CD as I see on an old email) interactively than trying to describe all the steps in an email. I think we should be more willing to bump people from email to IRC when a problem needs interactivity to solve it. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IRC Alan. Yes, but unfortunately, that hasnt been a very good option for me either. I prefer the e-mail to be honest. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: Yes I have tried using the answer system, and posting questions, but havent been able to get an answer. I got told a couple of weeks ago somebody on here had an answer, and was going to post a video to help. But, as I posted earlier, nothing has been done, which is why a couple of weeks later, I was asking again. To be told that your too busy, cause your all volunteers. You will have to excuse me for being so pissed off, seems to be the order of the day here. can you provide links to the questions you asked please. I don't think you have been told that people are too busy, however you were urged to be patient when you complained at a lack of response within 12 hours. Perhaps you could list the kernel versions that you have now, I believe you mentioned that some have been removed. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: On 10/06/10 23:04, Alan Bell wrote: I would encourage you to take steps that would lead to more information being available, the more information you can provide the more likely it is that someone will understand what is occurring. Installing a small dual boot partition might provide interesting additional information. Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. What I have told is all that happens. I click on the recover link under the kernal when in the grub, and it freezes after about 20 secs. what does it do during those 20 seconds? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
What is the point of having IRC chat and this e-mail chat, when nobody is prepared to help. Its kind of really a piss take when you get threads that talk about changing the way support is given, but all you get is those same people can just barely post to take you to task, yet they cant be bothered to post to help. Launchpad, well that is a joke too. You go through, and find out all the things that I have asked about on there, and you will find the same results as here, posts gone unanswered. So you will have to excuse me, if I dont bother. The only reason I bother coming back is cause I cant not use Ubuntu, I just cant afford it to reformat everything. Believe me, I dislike doing this even more than you do. If I could learn I would do it myself. I would even try to help. But I cant. So I am stuck. Sorry, does that mean that you've tried using the answers system or not? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10/06/10 23:21, Alan Bell wrote: John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. What I have told is all that happens. I click on the recover link under the kernal when in the grub, and it freezes after about 20 secs. Nothing else happens, no script comes up, no other boxes, I cannot get into a terminal. It just freezes. That is all that happens. So if something happens again, when I update to do a partial upgrade, I cant do anything to fix it, as I done have access to recovery when booting. Please excuse me when I ask, what value is there, for me to post about similar bugs. I just dont understand what that will do to help. I am just telling you exactly what happens on my pc. Please help me to understand what that will do to help you, then I will try to find those similar bugs again. John As well as you providing helpful information to the developers about how you have reproduced a bug if you can find one that is similar there are often suggestions in the comments of bugs (or answers) which may give me a clue as to what is going on with your problem, and how to fix it, even if they don't sound that helpful to you. So if you just turn on the PC it normally boots straight to the login screen, you only see grub if you hold down shift whilst powering up? Alan. The grub appears as its booting up. It has a list of two kernels with recvoery underneath and a few other things, including the xp partition, that I tried getting help for months ago, but that didnt get anywhere either. I then learnt by accident, that this grub had a bug, which wasnt posted about until after I had done the partition, and screwed it up the first time, and tried again, giving myself two ubuntu partitions and an xp partition, if you added more than two things to a partition it screwed up the windows partiition. When I initially did the partition, it f**D up my xp, which was just installed by the people who repaired my pc. So I can only use Ubuntu on this pc. Screwed there. The kernels are Ubuntu 2.6.32-22 and .21, Plus a couple of other things like I already posted about. Sorry, I am too tired, been at this for way too long. -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. Post the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg The difference between the default boot line (which works, yes?) and the recovery line should only be the options at the end of the lines which specify the linux kernel and options. If you post the contents of the file, we can see what they are. The other details should be identical in a working setup, and what they point to must work if you can boot normally, so I'm guessing something is wrong in grub.cfg, otherwise you would get an error message or something other than a blank screen. You can test this out by replacing the quiet splash at the end of the boot option which works with single (quotes are only to indicate where the content is and are not part of what you should type). To do that you select the normal boot option and press the E key to edit it when you see the grub boot menu (the one where you have previously tried to select the recovery mode option). If you can change quiet splash to single and boot into recovery mode, then at least you can do whatever it is you want to do when you need recovery mode, and we have at least one clue as to what your problem might be. Report anything which you see in detail when trying this. It should be an entirely safe test, with no risk of damage to a system which can boot from the default entry. -- JimP -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
On 10 June 2010 22:39, Jim Price d1vers...@hotmail.com wrote: John Matthews wrote: Ok, I dont know what else I can tell you. Post the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg The difference between the default boot line (which works, yes?) and the recovery line should only be the options at the end of the lines which specify the linux kernel and options. If you post the contents of the file, we can see what they are. The other details should be identical in a working setup, and what they point to must work if you can boot normally, so I'm guessing something is wrong in grub.cfg, otherwise you would get an error message or something other than a blank screen. You can test this out by replacing the quiet splash at the end of the boot option which works with single (quotes are only to indicate where the content is and are not part of what you should type). To do that you select the normal boot option and press the E key to edit it when you see the grub boot menu (the one where you have previously tried to select the recovery mode option). If you can change quiet splash to single and boot into recovery mode, then at least you can do whatever it is you want to do when you need recovery mode, and we have at least one clue as to what your problem might be. Report anything which you see in detail when trying this. It should be an entirely safe test, with no risk of damage to a system which can boot from the default entry. -- JimP Ok, I cant sleep, and have found that file you wanted, http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/66604 Hope that helps. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still having problems with recovery......
ah, interesting, this is new information. A fresh install of Lucid does not show grub at all unless you hold shift, although thinking about it it might have to for dual boot setups. At the top of the grub screen it should list the version number of grub. Does it start with 1.98? Alan. -- Yes it does show that 1.98 I just saw it when I booted the machine again. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] A new member ?
Hello I want to participate Ubuntu Party in England, I am French (I live near Paris) and I have already participated in two Ubuntu Party with Ubuntu-fr association (8.04 and 10.04) and two instance Linux Solution (2008 and 2010). I want to improve my English, writing correct, but it seems you spoken is just devastating to me right now, my goal is to improve my pronunciation and accent to be able to take part in any Ubuntu Party on the other side of the English Channel ! I'm already on the IRC channel for speak with you. I hope I sent this email to the right place, if this is not the case, thank you let me know. Sincerely, Kevin Gaspard. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Vinux to be used as Ubuntu Accessibility testing platform.
Hi all I may have told a few people here and there over the past few weeks, but I have decided to use Vinux as a test platform for accessibility related features. The plan is to test such features, make sure they are well implemented, and then as time and code/setup maturity permits, they will be merged into the main Ubuntu distribution proper. This work will start by moving Vinux disk building over to a the same framework used to build official Ubuntu CDs. Canonical won't be building the disks, but I know how to set up the framework. This will allow for much easier development of Vinux, and allow for much more rapid development, as there will be the opportunity for daily builds, basing different builds on different Ubuntu releases, etc. Regards Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: does maverick contain a working at-spi2 infrastrcture?
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 03:45:01PM EST, Halim Sahin wrote: Hi Luke, Just wondering about this decision: maverick will ship gnome 3.0 right? gnome 3 doesn't ship bonobo and other stuff so I am interested to know how you can reintegrate bonobo there. Ubuntu Maverick will not be shipping everything from GNOME 3, we will still have pieces that require bonobo, particularly gnome panel. Since the GNOME/GTK/bonobo framework is used by several different Ubuntu variants, things have to be managed conservatively, so things don't break too badly for everyone at once. There is also code maturity from upstrea to consider. As for at-spi2 packages, I should have them ready to go in a PPA later today for maverick and lucid. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
My apologys for my recent developer panic attack
Sorry all for the way I must have come off in my prior message. But like I just stated in the previous message, I just don't want to see the time Bill took to get things that now work better than in the present day Ubuntu in my personal opinion such as Pulse audio, to suddenly go backwards and stop working due to so many developpers working on the project. How will the development team be kept together with so many people doing daily builds? As Canonical won't be building the disks, is Bill supposed to build them all then? especially if daily builds are beginning to show up? Luke, perhaps you could help to clarify. I'm more than a bit confused-I suppose. Thanks! -- Regards, --Keith Skype: skypedude1234 MSN Messenger: keithin...@hotmail.com Yahoo/AIM/Twitter: keithint1234 Facebook: http://facebook.com/keith.hinton1 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu Studio daily CD health check
This is a daily health check report on the Ubuntu Studio CD images. If you have any questions, contact Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com. ubuntustudio/daily: Uninstallable packages: linux-meta 2.6.35.2.2 produces uninstallable binaries: * linux-image-preempt (amd64) * linux-preempt (amd64) -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: OneConf and Software Center
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Didier Didier Roche wrote on 22/04/10 09:33: Le mercredi 21 avril 2010 à 21:23 -0400, Jason J. Herne a écrit : ... Thanks for working with me to develop a good overview for OneConf (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneConf) and for considering my design ideas. ... I've been thinking about your suggested method of using Software Center to obtain a list of user installed packages (minus dependencies Ubuntu base packages). I have taken a look at the list of installed applications as reported by S-C and I do not believe it works. I'm not sure how software center decides which packages go into this list, but it seems to contain both base packages as well as dependencies of installed packages. See http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1t7wjds=5 This shows some base packages listed in Software Center, like Archive manager and Calculator. This one is not important to me and seems even logical, as there are still applications, you maybe want to remove the Calculator from an installed desktop (no offense robert_ancell ;)). So, keeping the default list somewhere is something not directly related. See http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=148jay1s=5 This was taken right after command 'sudo apt-get install dia'. Software Center is showing the library files and common files for Dia. hum, this one is more annoying. Thanks for looking at that. This is a combination of three bugs in Ubuntu Software Center. First, the Installed Software section is supposed to be a categorized list of all packages installed on the system. Currently, though, it is an uncategorized list of only the applications installed on the system. http://launchpad.net/bugs/437072 Second, a package (e.g. dia-gnome) that provides an application (e.g. Dia diagram editor) should not show up separately from that application. This works in most listings, but it fails in Installed Software search results. http://launchpad.net/bugs/537735 And third, in any listing that includes packages that do not provide an application (e.g. dia-libs, dia-common), those packages are supposed to be hidden by default inside a NN other technical items disclosure panel. Currently they're just shown by default. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#software-list-view-disclosure If anyone would like to fix any of these things, I'd greatly appreciate it. :-) Do you know how Software Center decides which packages go into this list? I've looked at the source code (briefly) but I did not find much. I'm sure a more thorough investigation would turn up more information but I'm not sure if it is worth the time since the list does not seem to be filtered how we want it to be. ... Why would you ask USC for this list? Why not ask apt or aptdaemon directly, something like Give me a list of all installed packages that aren't dependencies of ubuntu-desktop. As for the interface for OneConf in general, this seems like it should be part of a standalone Migration Assistant for transferring your stuff to/from other computers (programs and files to/from Ubuntu, and files only to/from other OSes). The migration step in the Ubuntu installer would be an embedded subset of this overall feature. It might also make sense for recording/syncing the set of installed packages to be accessible from Ubuntu Software Center, but *maybe* only as a menu item that launches the Migration Assistant. What do you think? Is there any other reason you'd want to record that kind of list? - -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwQrGUACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecobgwCfaty07Rho5FgRjjmHX4IUONY5 MrwAoKaCB8vHKVUNigOADuiTKKOmHWCG =oLrd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Team Appointment Process - Poll
All these polls, whether they are for governance structures or IRC meeting times are totally valueless unless the main body of Ubuntu users in Australia come out of their hiding places and declare their wishes. The current poll on governance registers the opinions of 18 Ubuntu users. Hardly a representative sample and certainly not a valid nor acceptable vote (as was the vote on IRC meeting times). Reading the minutes of the last IRC meeting, I noticed the brave mention of should we revisit the time set aside for these meetings. There is no point in asking the converted, you need to ask the 200+ registered ubuntu-au members. Elect a representative, a governor if the term pleases you, and let this person drive the push to rejuvenating Ubuntu-au and ultimately re-accreditation. To those who seek refuge behind the voluntary nature of ubuntu-au and therefore claim that they cannot exercise any authority, I would remind them that many ubuntu-au users have signed the code of conduct and thereby have placed themselves under the jurisdiction of the requirements of Launchpad and Ubuntu. Laissez-faire is just another term for administrative laziness. Andre On 10 June 2010 14:07, Lisa Milne l...@ltmnet.com wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:32:29 +1000 andrew gande...@gmail.com wrote: I have created a poll on the appointment process for team positions. http://www.doodle.com/pn7hyxe77wwr8bka HOW TO VOTE CARD Meritocracy - Keep the current process. Democracy - Everybody has a say in who is appointed to the leadership team. Andrew G. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au This poll wasn't discussed or suggested at the meeting, therefore I'm calling it Andrew's personal poll and ignoring it. -- Lisa Milne l...@ltmnet.com -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Team Appointment Process - Poll
On 10 June 2010 09:02, andrew gande...@gmail.com wrote: I have created a poll on the appointment process for team positions. http://www.doodle.com/pn7hyxe77wwr8bka HOW TO VOTE CARD Meritocracy - Keep the current process. Democracy - Everybody has a say in who is appointed to the leadership team. Hi All, I have just compared the 2 polls, the official[1] that was opened after the meeting last night and the new one started by Andrew Gaydon[2]. My first question is why the 4 votes that on the poll created by Andrew[2] have not voted on the official poll[1]? Starting a new poll does not make you look very responsible and team players. This looks to me as 'I am going to throw a patty and start my own poll cause things are not going my way' and hence my question above. [1] http://www.doodle.com/zift4eahcy3mrvv9 [2] http://www.doodle.com/pn7hyxe77wwr8bka -- [WWW] http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/ The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them - Albert Einstein -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Local Ubuntu conference [Was: Metrocracy vs democracy]
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 12:26 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Paul Gear Sounds like we in the Brisbane team need to get cracking... :-) Another nice bonus when it comes to holding an event ahead of linux.conf.au: there are usually quite a few Canonical folk from overseas speaking or just attending. Though not crucial (we have awesome local contributors of course) it's a nice way to ratchet up interest from less community-connected folks. (The very first GNOME.conf.au in 2004 was a massive success because we had an unusually large presence of GNOME and X contributors that year.) - Jeff I'd be interested in this, even if it's just a few hours on the Sunday before the conference it would be useful to meet up. If we can't be bothered organising that i would like to meet up and have a meal with other people from the loco some time in the conference. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Team Appointment Process - Poll
How long do we want to hold up decisions. Are we just going to sit here complaining about a voting system into the next year and have 0% productivity or are we going to do something. I have noticed the active participants are voting and the active members are the ones that get the choice. If you are not an active member or you do not wish to vote you will simply not be counted since you are not participating. It is your choice. On Jun 10, 8:27 pm, Daniel Sobey dns_ser...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Andrew, We had a long discussion in the meeting on how we should move forward and what we want. If you were not able to attend the meeting the logs are available athttp://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-au.log.20100608_0600.html There was a fair bit of discussion on how to move forward. We want to be democratic and allow everyone to have their say. How best do you think we should do this? I would not consider the poll that was created in the meeting as the final and only decision, it is a step in the process. I would expect us to decide on the direction with this poll and the further refine it later on once we have a better idea on what everyone wants. We need to build a consensus on what we want, so first decide on a model and then work out details. We do not know what the best way of collecting the popularity of each model. I do not know how popular the results will be by next meeting. I would encourage you to express your opinion and vote in the poll.http://www.doodle.com/zift4eahcy3mrvv9 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Fwd: about bouncing
-- Forwarded message -- From: Victor Vahe Kevorkian vivakev...@gmail.com Date: 10 June 2010 07:48 Subject: about bouncing To: ubuntu-au-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com Why is it that my requests are bouncing back to me and being ignored? I have no other way to ask for help. During the past week after any updates for Ubuntu Karmic I receive the following Error Messages: 1.-An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://download.virtualbox.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 54422A4B98AB5139 Answer: my Virtualbox works well with no problem. 2.-Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-getdeb/Release.gpg Could not connect to archive.getdeb.net:80 (81.92.203.249), connection timed out Answer: sorry I don't have any idea about this one. 3.-Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-getdeb/apps/i18n/Translation-en_AU.bz2 Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net http: 4.-Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/karmic/Release Can I get help please Good evening all, I have forwarded on the previous message from Victor (with his permission) as it appears there is some problem with him posting to the list. While we look into that I thought someone might be able to provide him with some assistance with the problem he has described. Regards Jared Norris (on behalf of the Ubuntu-AU mailing list moderators) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Local Ubuntu conference [Was: Metrocracy vs democracy]
Why do people find structure so critical to a community. We are a group of people interested in Ubuntu and the progression of Ubuntu in Australia. Do we need to hold conferences with minutes and boards? None of this is at all binding so how can you expect anyone who does not get their voted leader in to at all follow any rules set by the leaders or follow any policy they disagree with? Pretty much you have no way of enforcing users comply to any of your demands. In my opinion the only viable option is to act as a community and not a company and let the community participate in activities they wish to participate in. I am prepared to participate in a constructive way to improve Ubuntu and open source and free software. I am not prepared to sit at an AGM. Just my 2 cents. But then again a conference would be cool if we could talk about tech? Such a strange idea. On Jun 10, 7:49 pm, Daniel Sobey dns_ser...@yahoo.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 12:26 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Paul Gear Sounds like we in the Brisbane team need to get cracking... :-) Another nice bonus when it comes to holding an event ahead of linux.conf.au: there are usually quite a few Canonical folk from overseas speaking or just attending. Though not crucial (we have awesome local contributors of course) it's a nice way to ratchet up interest from less community-connected folks. (The very first GNOME.conf.au in 2004 was a massive success because we had an unusually large presence of GNOME and X contributors that year.) - Jeff I'd be interested in this, even if it's just a few hours on the Sunday before the conference it would be useful to meet up. If we can't be bothered organising that i would like to meet up and have a meal with other people from the loco some time in the conference. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Blogs
Slightly off topic but who has blogs that are techie or have technical feeds? It would be interesting to see since I am addicted to information and I would like to grab tech news and tech adventures from this community. My blog is at http://bwright.uberwolf.com/feeds/programming/ and http://bwright.uberwolf.com/feeds/technology/ I find that the planet is low traffic and I would like to get some more information flowing through on the Ubuntu Loco front. Cheers. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: about bouncing
Victor. I can help you out with problem (1) - I suspect it will also solve all the others also You have been using teh SUN version of virtualbox, not the one from the Ubuntu repository. Virtualbox is now an Oracle product, as such they have changed their key If you run : wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add - It will fetch and install the new key Cheers -- Chris Martin m: 0419812371 -- On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Victor Vahe Kevorkian vivakev...@gmail.com Date: 10 June 2010 07:48 Subject: about bouncing To: ubuntu-au-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com Why is it that my requests are bouncing back to me and being ignored? I have no other way to ask for help. During the past week after any updates for Ubuntu Karmic I receive the following Error Messages: 1.-An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://download.virtualbox.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 54422A4B98AB5139 Answer: my Virtualbox works well with no problem. 2.-Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-getdeb/Release.gpg Could not connect to archive.getdeb.net:80 (81.92.203.249), connection timed out Answer: sorry I don't have any idea about this one. 3.-Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-getdeb/apps/i18n/Translation-en_AU.bz2 Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net http: 4.-Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/karmic/Release Can I get help please Good evening all, I have forwarded on the previous message from Victor (with his permission) as it appears there is some problem with him posting to the list. While we look into that I thought someone might be able to provide him with some assistance with the problem he has described. Regards Jared Norris (on behalf of the Ubuntu-AU mailing list moderators) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Fwd: about bouncing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/10 21:10, Jared Norris wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Victor Vahe Kevorkian vivakev...@gmail.com Date: 10 June 2010 07:48 Subject: about bouncing To: ubuntu-au-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com Why is it that my requests are bouncing back to me and being ignored? I have no other way to ask for help. During the past week after any updates for Ubuntu Karmic I receive the following Error Messages: 1.-An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://download.virtualbox.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 54422A4B98AB5139 Answer: my Virtualbox works well with no problem. 2.-Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-getdeb/Release.gpg Could not connect to archive.getdeb.net:80 (81.92.203.249), connection timed out Answer: sorry I don't have any idea about this one. 3.-Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-getdeb/apps/i18n/Translation-en_AU.bz2 Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net http: 4.-Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/karmic/Release Can I get help please Good evening all, I have forwarded on the previous message from Victor (with his permission) as it appears there is some problem with him posting to the list. While we look into that I thought someone might be able to provide him with some assistance with the problem he has described. Regards Jared Norris (on behalf of the Ubuntu-AU mailing list moderators) Thanks for forwarding this to the list Jared. Hi Victor, Point #1: The public key was changed with the release of Virtualbox 3.2. You will need to remove the old key add the new one. You can find more info regarding how to add the new public key at http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads Points # 2 3: Unfortunately the Getdeb website repository are both down (again). See http://blog.getdeb.net/2010/05/web-site-and-archive-down-again.html for more info. If you need something from Getdeb, there is a browsable mirror at http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/pub/getdeb/ubuntu/pool/ where you can manually download the required deb file. I have been using that as a workaround until the repository is back online. I hope this helps Warm Regards, Mitch Towner (kermiac) http://mitchtowner.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMEOIVAAoJENegJk0fbKNMTSAIAK9+uYYVmmajxy9M/2xvy3g3 34NS0f3dA9+enh20jZwjEHf9RBO9v10t3aT+d7MFC1LHvDiK4BV7X19OVrpz5mE+ J0j89TTDnZTjRq2vwgSKbu2t89HidQYIylj11Nbe6rgMtLZtzjE+Yui2UfA2m7Ce LQUxus4/4cFlAgv+NlJnQDDdApKBLqrzQRs8yLgK8lH80OwQtIjlyk5e6cAcU6Zp 1FU4BojFPtODHlcospDNudgoeWC3ixuBnH4z8dCUt3IoZHk3aUz7Pnvy0mj7DcH6 O/i8Yn94cVPRDoe6Alqxh3Od1ai/+TRAg7g5K9SavbNJ/FztMkyi1uRNlQ+oOJ4= =Qul8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Team Appointment Process - Poll
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:08:26 -0700 (PDT) bwright bwright...@gmail.com wrote: How long do we want to hold up decisions. Are we just going to sit here complaining about a voting system into the next year and have 0% productivity isn't that the standard outcome of the democratic process? (little progress and lots of opinion.) or are we going to do something. I don't understand the negative attitude to the meritocracy concept in this group. Do something. If done well people will help and follow. If done badly it will die or fork - in which case the process starts again. I have noticed the active participants are voting and the active members are the ones that get the choice. If you are not an active member or you do not wish to vote you will simply not be counted since you are not participating. It is your choice. If I recall correctly, the number of members in 2010 quoted in the notification that the AU-LoCo was not re-endorsed was something like 14. The all time high was what? 64? 64 people should be able to resolve the situation where there is a single spokesperson and people who are doing good stuff can continue to do good stuff. 18 people to represent 14 is kingdom building gone mad. -- jmo -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au