RE: mail and contact headings

[Richard Turner]

I’m going to take a guess here.  It is asking if you want to use the known or 
unknown contacts, right?  I’ve never seen it ask for anything other than the 
default contacts, but I don’t have them sorted like that.

 

As to why you have to hear the name twice in the app switcher, only Apple 
knows.  I’d write them and suggest they fix that since it is completely 
unnecessary.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: mail and contact headings

 

Hello all

How can I set my mail and contacts to not constantly ask me which list or 
contact list to use? On my 6S andbefore the update I only told the phone to 
sort into  known and unknown. Now I get othr headings I do not want to have to 
reset continually. 

   I continue to scrutinize settings but still keep missing things 
that are causing redundancy that is totally unwelcome.

   I feellike just using my old phone with an older update on it. 

   And, why do I now have to hear the name of the app I want to 
close twice in the app  switcher before having to swipe again to close or 
activate the app? This too is new.

 

   Deidre 

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mail and contact headings

[deidreandlouise]

Hello all

How can I set my mail and contacts to not constantly ask me which list or
contact list to use? On my 6S andbefore the update I only told the phone to
sort into  known and unknown. Now I get othr headings I do not want to have
to reset continually. 

   I continue to scrutinize settings but still keep missing
things that are causing redundancy that is totally unwelcome.

   I feellike just using my old phone with an older update on
it. 

   And, why do I now have to hear the name of the app I want to
close twice in the app  switcher before having to swipe again to close or
activate the app? This too is new.

 

   Deidre 

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RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Hmm, I'm not seeing that. If I flick back up to the top of the thread then I 
have an option to collapse it but not otherwise, and like I said, I've never 
seen a nested thread. Not sure that's even possible the way threading works now.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

Thanks much, Christopher.
I noticed that when I expend a thread, let's say, of 7 message, flick up and 
down to message to message, voiceOver says collapsed on fourth message, for 
instance.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

What I find most intuitive and reliable for me is to move through my inbox by 
flicking left and right. When you get to a message thread you'll know because 
you hear how many messages you have in the thread. Here you can delete the 
whole thread with all of it's messages by flicking up to the delete option and 
double pressing. If you want to expand the thread flick up or down until you 
get to expand. Later you can collapse a thread the same way. I seldom have to 
open a message since my preview reads about four lines or so and is often 
enough for me to know if I want to delete the message or not. If I want to read 
it all then I just double tap, and just that one single message will be opened. 
When in your inbox the roter actions will work on an individual message when 
that's what has focus or the whole thread if that's what has focus. There are 
other strategies with handling email, but like I said, this is what I find most 
reliable and intuitive.

I've never seen nested threads. Are you sure you're not just coming across the 
next thread?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

Hi, Group.
I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.
I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.
How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?
Am I supposed to expend each message individually?
Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages are 
collapsed within a collapsed thread.
Any help is much appreciated regarding solving this riddle.
Thanks!
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RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Christopher.

I noticed that when I expend a thread, let’s say, of 7 message, flick up and 
down to message to message, voiceOver says collapsed on fourth message, for 
instance.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 4:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

 

What I find most intuitive and reliable for me is to move through my inbox by 
flicking left and right. When you get to a message thread you’ll know because 
you hear how many messages you have in the thread. Here you can delete the 
whole thread with all of it’s messages by flicking up to the delete option and 
double pressing. If you want to expand the thread flick up or down until you 
get to expand. Later you can collapse a thread the same way. I seldom have to 
open a message since my preview reads about four lines or so and is often 
enough for me to know if I want to delete the message or not. If I want to read 
it all then I just double tap, and just that one single message will be opened. 
When in your inbox the roter actions will work on an individual message when 
that’s what has focus or the whole thread if that’s what has focus. There are 
other strategies with handling email, but like I said, this is what I find most 
reliable and intuitive.

 

I’ve never seen nested threads. Are you sure you’re not just coming across the 
next thread?

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Fazil M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

 

Hi, Group.

I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.

I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.

How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?

Am I supposed to expend each message individually?

Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages are 
collapsed within a collapsed thread.

Any help is much appreciated regarding solving this riddle.

Thanks!

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RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, flicking right simply takes you to the next message in your Inbox and if 
you are on a thread and flick right and the next message is from an individual 
then that is where you go.
You double tap to open the first message and the thread and then use the rotor 
turned to Messages to flick up or down to other messages in the thread or, as 
Christopher said, if you do turn the rotor to "expand thread" and then double 
tap then flicking left and right will take you to different messages in the 
thread because they are now treaded as individual messages are treated.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 11:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

Would flicking right open the message and flicking left would close it 
respectively?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

You can either just double tap the message and then use the rotor which when a 
message thread is open has a "Messages" feature and if you turn it to messages 
and then flick down with one finger it will go to the next message (or the 
previous if you flick up).
You can also turn the rotor before you open the message and select the "expand" 
option which then expands the thread and you can flick left and right just as 
if they were individual emails.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

Hi, Group.
I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.
I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.
How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?
Am I supposed to expend each message individually?
Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages are 
collapsed within a collapsed thread.
Any help is much appreciated regarding solving this riddle.
Thanks!
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RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If it's an email list then reply will probably go to the entire list, if it's 
simply an email thread between a few individuals then reply should go to just 
that person and reply all will go to anybody who is included as a second 
recipient or listed in the CC field.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 11:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

When I reply to an open message, would my reply go only to this message or to 
the entire thread?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

You can either just double tap the message and then use the rotor which when a 
message thread is open has a "Messages" feature and if you turn it to messages 
and then flick down with one finger it will go to the next message (or the 
previous if you flick up).
You can also turn the rotor before you open the message and select the "expand" 
option which then expands the thread and you can flick left and right just as 
if they were individual emails.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

Hi, Group.
I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.
I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.
How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?
Am I supposed to expend each message individually?
Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages are 
collapsed within a collapsed thread.
Any help is much appreciated regarding solving this riddle.
Thanks!
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RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Christopher Chaltain]

What I find most intuitive and reliable for me is to move through my inbox by 
flicking left and right. When you get to a message thread you'll know because 
you hear how many messages you have in the thread. Here you can delete the 
whole thread with all of it's messages by flicking up to the delete option and 
double pressing. If you want to expand the thread flick up or down until you 
get to expand. Later you can collapse a thread the same way. I seldom have to 
open a message since my preview reads about four lines or so and is often 
enough for me to know if I want to delete the message or not. If I want to read 
it all then I just double tap, and just that one single message will be opened. 
When in your inbox the roter actions will work on an individual message when 
that's what has focus or the whole thread if that's what has focus. There are 
other strategies with handling email, but like I said, this is what I find most 
reliable and intuitive.

I've never seen nested threads. Are you sure you're not just coming across the 
next thread?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:45 PM
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Subject: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

Hi, Group.
I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.
I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.
How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?
Am I supposed to expend each message individually?
Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages are 
collapsed within a collapsed thread.
Any help is much appreciated regarding solving this riddle.
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RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Fazil M.]

When I reply to an open message, would my reply go only to this message or to 
the entire thread?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:38 PM
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You can either just double tap the message and then use the rotor which when a 
message thread is open has a "Messages" feature and if you turn it to messages 
and then flick down with one finger it will go to the next message (or the 
previous if you flick up).

You can also turn the rotor before you open the message and select the "expand" 
option which then expands the thread and you can flick left and right just as 
if they were individual emails.

 

 

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Subject: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

 

Hi, Group.

I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.

I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.

How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?

Am I supposed to expend each message individually?

Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages are 
collapsed within a collapsed thread.

Any help is much appreciated regarding solving this riddle.

Thanks!

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RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Fazil M.]

Would flicking right open the message and flicking left would close it 
respectively?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

 

You can either just double tap the message and then use the rotor which when a 
message thread is open has a "Messages" feature and if you turn it to messages 
and then flick down with one finger it will go to the next message (or the 
previous if you flick up).

You can also turn the rotor before you open the message and select the "expand" 
option which then expands the thread and you can flick left and right just as 
if they were individual emails.

 

 

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Subject: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

 

Hi, Group.

I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.

I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.

How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?

Am I supposed to expend each message individually?

Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages are 
collapsed within a collapsed thread.

Any help is much appreciated regarding solving this riddle.

Thanks!

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RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can either just double tap the message and then use the rotor which when a 
message thread is open has a "Messages" feature and if you turn it to messages 
and then flick down with one finger it will go to the next message (or the 
previous if you flick up).
You can also turn the rotor before you open the message and select the "expand" 
option which then expands the thread and you can flick left and right just as 
if they were individual emails.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

Hi, Group.
I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.
I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.
How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?
Am I supposed to expend each message individually?
Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages are 
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Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.

I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.

How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?

Am I supposed to expend each message individually?

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RE: mail weirdness since latest update.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Maria,

The only thing that comes to mind is the sync settings for the gMail account in 
question.  This is to say, in the settings area for mail, on the account page 
in question, you should have the number of days to sync to "no limit".  I think 
the default when you add an account is 1 day.

Good luck,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Chapman
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 4:44 AM
To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
Subject: mail weirdness since latest update.

HI.
i am really enjoying the latest update.  There is just one thing that’s strange 
with my email. I have a gmail account with several folders and messages 
filtered in to those folders. I also have messages that are not filtered that 
go in to the main inbox. My mac, and iPod that are not updated behave normally. 
I can see messages in the inbox etc.  When i go to the inbox, on  my iphone SE 
2022 however, I see  my messages that have been filtered  in to other folders, 
But, when i go to the main inbox, I see there is unread mail and the phone 
checks for email. It says it was updated after quite a long time and then says 
no mail and the inbox is empty. It doesn’t seem to download anything.
I have tried rebooting the phone and the app, tried off loading mail and 
reinstalling it, and have also tried deleting and re adding the account. Is 
this a know issue? Is my phone just being weird?
PS if i go to the in box on my iPod and mac, i see all the messages i am 
supposed to see.

thanks in advance.

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Re: mail weirdness since latest update.

[Alex Stone]

Maria, I don’t know if it will help, but have you tried the gmail app?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Sep 2022, at 12:44, Maria Chapman  wrote:
> 
> HI.
> i am really enjoying the latest update.  There is just one thing that’s 
> strange with my email. I have a gmail account with several folders and 
> messages filtered in to those folders. I also have messages that are not 
> filtered that go in to the main inbox. My mac, and iPod that are not updated 
> behave normally. I can see messages in the inbox etc.  When i go to the 
> inbox, on  my iphone SE 2022 however, I see  my messages that have been 
> filtered  in to other folders, But, when i go to the main inbox, I see there 
> is unread mail and the phone checks for email. It says it was updated after 
> quite a long time and then says no mail and the inbox is empty. It doesn’t 
> seem to download anything.
> I have tried rebooting the phone and the app, tried off loading mail and 
> reinstalling it, and have also tried deleting and re adding the account. Is 
> this a know issue? Is my phone just being weird?
> PS if i go to the in box on my iPod and mac, i see all the messages i am 
> supposed to see.
> 
> thanks in advance.
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Re: mail weirdness since latest update.

[Maria Chapman]

HI.
I am using the native mail app to access my gmail account.
Maria


> On 24 Sep 2022, at 12:01 am, 'Anthony Vece' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> Hi Maria; this is why I try to use applications from Apple as much as 
> possible. Apple does not support third-party apps.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2022, at 7:44 AM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
>> 
>> HI.
>> i am really enjoying the latest update.  There is just one thing that’s 
>> strange with my email. I have a gmail account with several folders and 
>> messages filtered in to those folders. I also have messages that are not 
>> filtered that go in to the main inbox. My mac, and iPod that are not updated 
>> behave normally. I can see messages in the inbox etc.  When i go to the 
>> inbox, on  my iphone SE 2022 however, I see  my messages that have been 
>> filtered  in to other folders, But, when i go to the main inbox, I see there 
>> is unread mail and the phone checks for email. It says it was updated after 
>> quite a long time and then says no mail and the inbox is empty. It doesn’t 
>> seem to download anything.
>> I have tried rebooting the phone and the app, tried off loading mail and 
>> reinstalling it, and have also tried deleting and re adding the account. Is 
>> this a know issue? Is my phone just being weird?
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>> supposed to see.
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Re: mail weirdness since latest update.

[Maria Chapman]

HI.
the messages i can’t see are the ones that are not filtered, that just go in to 
the inbox.
It gives me a count of unread messages but then says no mail.
Maria


> On 24 Sep 2022, at 12:14 am, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Are those messages being sorted into the trash folder or another folder on 
> your SE 2022?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Chapman
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 4:44 AM
> To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: mail weirdness since latest update.
> 
> HI.
> i am really enjoying the latest update.  There is just one thing that’s 
> strange with my email. I have a gmail account with several folders and 
> messages filtered in to those folders. I also have messages that are not 
> filtered that go in to the main inbox. My mac, and iPod that are not updated 
> behave normally. I can see messages in the inbox etc.  When i go to the 
> inbox, on  my iphone SE 2022 however, I see  my messages that have been 
> filtered  in to other folders, But, when i go to the main inbox, I see there 
> is unread mail and the phone checks for email. It says it was updated after 
> quite a long time and then says no mail and the inbox is empty. It doesn’t 
> seem to download anything.
> I have tried rebooting the phone and the app, tried off loading mail and 
> reinstalling it, and have also tried deleting and re adding the account. Is 
> this a know issue? Is my phone just being weird?
> PS if i go to the in box on my iPod and mac, i see all the messages i am 
> supposed to see.
> 
> thanks in advance.
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RE: mail weirdness since latest update.

[Richard Turner]

Are those messages being sorted into the trash folder or another folder on your 
SE 2022?




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Chapman
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 4:44 AM
To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
Subject: mail weirdness since latest update.

HI.
i am really enjoying the latest update.  There is just one thing that’s strange 
with my email. I have a gmail account with several folders and messages 
filtered in to those folders. I also have messages that are not filtered that 
go in to the main inbox. My mac, and iPod that are not updated behave normally. 
I can see messages in the inbox etc.  When i go to the inbox, on  my iphone SE 
2022 however, I see  my messages that have been filtered  in to other folders, 
But, when i go to the main inbox, I see there is unread mail and the phone 
checks for email. It says it was updated after quite a long time and then says 
no mail and the inbox is empty. It doesn’t seem to download anything.
I have tried rebooting the phone and the app, tried off loading mail and 
reinstalling it, and have also tried deleting and re adding the account. Is 
this a know issue? Is my phone just being weird?
PS if i go to the in box on my iPod and mac, i see all the messages i am 
supposed to see.

thanks in advance.

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Re: mail weirdness since latest update.

['Anthony Vece' via VIPhone]

Hi Maria; this is why I try to use applications from Apple as much as possible. 
Apple does not support third-party apps.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 23, 2022, at 7:44 AM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
> 
> HI.
> i am really enjoying the latest update.  There is just one thing that’s 
> strange with my email. I have a gmail account with several folders and 
> messages filtered in to those folders. I also have messages that are not 
> filtered that go in to the main inbox. My mac, and iPod that are not updated 
> behave normally. I can see messages in the inbox etc.  When i go to the 
> inbox, on  my iphone SE 2022 however, I see  my messages that have been 
> filtered  in to other folders, But, when i go to the main inbox, I see there 
> is unread mail and the phone checks for email. It says it was updated after 
> quite a long time and then says no mail and the inbox is empty. It doesn’t 
> seem to download anything.
> I have tried rebooting the phone and the app, tried off loading mail and 
> reinstalling it, and have also tried deleting and re adding the account. Is 
> this a know issue? Is my phone just being weird?
> PS if i go to the in box on my iPod and mac, i see all the messages i am 
> supposed to see.
> 
> thanks in advance.
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mail weirdness since latest update.

[Maria Chapman]

HI.
i am really enjoying the latest update.  There is just one thing that’s strange 
with my email. I have a gmail account with several folders and messages 
filtered in to those folders. I also have messages that are not filtered that 
go in to the main inbox. My mac, and iPod that are not updated behave normally. 
I can see messages in the inbox etc.  When i go to the inbox, on  my iphone SE 
2022 however, I see  my messages that have been filtered  in to other folders, 
But, when i go to the main inbox, I see there is unread mail and the phone 
checks for email. It says it was updated after quite a long time and then says 
no mail and the inbox is empty. It doesn’t seem to download anything.
I have tried rebooting the phone and the app, tried off loading mail and 
reinstalling it, and have also tried deleting and re adding the account. Is 
this a know issue? Is my phone just being weird?
PS if i go to the in box on my iPod and mac, i see all the messages i am 
supposed to see.

thanks in advance.

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RE: Mail, books and just syncing

[Richard Turner]

You would have to sign in on her gmail account on the web to enable iMap I 
believe, or to check and see if it is there.
I believe you can also dig into the account settings on the phone mail settings 
and tell, but I'm a little foggy on that point.

I assume you are talking about Apple books?  IF she is signed in with the same 
Apple ID, that is one where she needs to call Apple, and if she won't, then she 
will have to live with it.

HTH,
Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail, books and just syncing

Richard, I have no idea! I don’t know who set up Gmail for her. However I am 
truly at the end of my rope. Where do I go specifically to change that if it’s 
not correct? she had it on all the devices before we deleted everything in Mail 
to reinstall it. Now it won’t go through. Also I do not understand why her 
books will not sync from iPhone to iPad inbox. I would tell her to go to an 
Apple store but it’s far away from her. She will not call Accessibility. I 
don’t understand it but she won’t she calls me. Besides, they wouldn’t help 
with Gmail. We had a hard enough time changing her Google password. I just hate 
Google and Gmail. Luckily mine is working or I would be a screaming Mimi.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Sep 12, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

It sounds like she is using POP email.
If she was using iMap with Gmail, they should all download all the same stuff.




Richard
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🦅

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 9:15 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Mail, books and just syncing

Hi, please! I am at a loss and end of my rope with my friend and her iPhone 13 
pro, iPad Mini and iPad air (new). Saturday I had her delete her gmail on her 
phone and reinstall it. That worked. Now she is saying that emails in gmail are 
not showing up on the Mini and the iPad Air. Also, Books do not sync her books 
with her phone. How do I help? I know there is a place you go to sync, but I 
have forgotten how. She says she has everything highlighted, but I am not 
certain. How do I sync everything? Thanks for any help. She thinks I'm an Apple 
expert. I am not. I know quite a lot, but for some reason I don't understand 
syncing or iCloud.


Reggie Alvarado 

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Re: Mail, books and just syncing

[regina alvarado]

Richard, I have no idea! I don’t know who set up Gmail for her. However I am 
truly at the end of my rope. Where do I go specifically to change that if it’s 
not correct? she had it on all the devices before we deleted everything in Mail 
to reinstall it. Now it won’t go through. Also I do not understand why her 
books will not sync from iPhone to iPad inbox. I would tell her to go to an 
Apple store but it’s far away from her. She will not call Accessibility. I 
don’t understand it but she won’t she calls me. Besides, they wouldn’t help 
with Gmail. We had a hard enough time changing her Google password. I just hate 
Google and Gmail. Luckily mine is working or I would be a screaming Mimi.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Sep 12, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

It sounds like she is using POP email.
If she was using iMap with Gmail, they should all download all the same stuff.




Richard
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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
🦅

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 9:15 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Mail, books and just syncing

Hi, please! I am at a loss and end of my rope with my friend and her iPhone 13 
pro, iPad Mini and iPad air (new). Saturday I had her delete her gmail on her 
phone and reinstall it. That worked. Now she is saying that emails in gmail are 
not showing up on the Mini and the iPad Air. Also, Books do not sync her books 
with her phone. How do I help? I know there is a place you go to sync, but I 
have forgotten how. She says she has everything highlighted, but I am not 
certain. How do I sync everything? Thanks for any help. She thinks I'm an Apple 
expert. I am not. I know quite a lot, but for some reason I don't understand 
syncing or iCloud.


Reggie Alvarado 

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RE: Mail, books and just syncing

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like she is using POP email.
If she was using iMap with Gmail, they should all download all the same stuff.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 9:15 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Mail, books and just syncing

Hi, please! I am at a loss and end of my rope with my friend and her iPhone 13 
pro, iPad Mini and iPad air (new). Saturday I had her delete her gmail on her 
phone and reinstall it. That worked. Now she is saying that emails in gmail are 
not showing up on the Mini and the iPad Air. Also, Books do not sync her books 
with her phone. How do I help? I know there is a place you go to sync, but I 
have forgotten how. She says she has everything highlighted, but I am not 
certain. How do I sync everything? Thanks for any help. She thinks I'm an Apple 
expert. I am not. I know quite a lot, but for some reason I don't understand 
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Mail, books and just syncing

[regina alvarado]

Hi, please! I am at a loss and end of my rope with my friend and her iPhone 13 
pro, iPad Mini and iPad air (new). Saturday I had her delete her gmail on her 
phone and reinstall it. That worked. Now she is saying that emails in gmail are 
not showing up on the Mini and the iPad Air. Also, Books do not sync her books 
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RE: question how to get to atachmints when some one e ataches them to a e mail using mail and vo.

[Richard Turner]

Touch at the bottom right corner, or do a four finger tap at the bottom of the 
screen.

Then, flick left with one finger until you get passed the delete button I think 
it is that is the bottom left corner.  The next flick to the left should put 
you on the attachment.

 

For whatever reason, it works best to start from the bottom and work back to 
the attachment.

 

 

 

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Hi all I am wondering when youg et a e mail with atachmints using mail and vo 
how do you get to what they are? I have tried using vo and male on my I phone 8 
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question how to get to atachmints when some one e ataches them to a e mail using mail and vo.

[michv]

Hi all I am wondering when youg et a e mail with atachmints using mail and
vo how do you get to what they are? I have tried using vo and male on my I
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RE: Native Mail app and folder presentation

[Alan Lemly]

No, I don’t believe this is a bug but what I’d call a deficiency in the 
functionality of the programmed app.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

 

I wonder if that is something like a bug maybe? If it is, it’s something to 
report. 





On Aug 24, 2022, at 14:18, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Donna,

 

Thanks for the reply but this doesn’t work. I executed the Edit button as you 
advised from the Mailboxes screen but only certain folders can be reordered 
from this screen and Sent isn’t one of them. I called Apple Accessibility and 
they confirmed that the Sent folder could not be reordered. 

 

Alan Lemly

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
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Subject: Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

 

When you are in the list of mailboxes, tap the edit button in the upper right, 
swipe down to Sent mailbox, you should be able to drag & drop the mailbox to 
where you want it. Tap Done in upper right.

 

Donna

 

 



Hi List,

 

I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I open 
the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen, I’m 
presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the folders 
available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent Items folder 
to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a way to do this. 
I’ve just about concluded that I can’t do it but thought I’d run the question 
by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this issue would be 
greatly appreciated.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I wonder if that is something like a bug maybe? If it is, it’s something to 
report. 

> On Aug 24, 2022, at 14:18, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>  
> Thanks for the reply but this doesn’t work. I executed the Edit button as you 
> advised from the Mailboxes screen but only certain folders can be reordered 
> from this screen and Sent isn’t one of them. I called Apple Accessibility and 
> they confirmed that the Sent folder could not be reordered. 
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 11:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation
>  
> When you are in the list of mailboxes, tap the edit button in the upper 
> right, swipe down to Sent mailbox, you should be able to drag & drop the 
> mailbox to where you want it. Tap Done in upper right.
>  
> Donna
>  
>>  
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I 
>> open the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen, 
>> I’m presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the 
>> folders available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent 
>> Items folder to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a 
>> way to do this. I’ve just about concluded that I can’t do it but thought I’d 
>> run the question by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this 
>> issue would be greatly appreciated.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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RE: Native Mail app and folder presentation

[Alan Lemly]

Donna,

 

Thanks for the reply but this doesn’t work. I executed the Edit button as you 
advised from the Mailboxes screen but only certain folders can be reordered 
from this screen and Sent isn’t one of them. I called Apple Accessibility and 
they confirmed that the Sent folder could not be reordered. 

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

 

When you are in the list of mailboxes, tap the edit button in the upper right, 
swipe down to Sent mailbox, you should be able to drag & drop the mailbox to 
where you want it. Tap Done in upper right.

 

Donna

 

 



Hi List,

 

I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I open 
the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen, I’m 
presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the folders 
available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent Items folder 
to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a way to do this. 
I’ve just about concluded that I can’t do it but thought I’d run the question 
by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this issue would be 
greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

[Donna Casteen]

When you are in the list of mailboxes, tap the edit button in the upper right, 
swipe down to Sent mailbox, you should be able to drag & drop the mailbox to 
where you want it. Tap Done in upper right.

Donna

> 
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I 
> open the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen, 
> I’m presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the 
> folders available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent 
> Items folder to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a 
> way to do this. I’ve just about concluded that I can’t do it but thought I’d 
> run the question by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this 
> issue would be greatly appreciated.
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Native Mail app and folder presentation

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I
open the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen,
I'm presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the
folders available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent
Items folder to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a
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run the question by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this
issue would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Using Mail Drop

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Dropbox links work fine. I prefer Airdrop because it’s as simple as sending an 
attachment, the file doesn’t need to live in a service like Dropbox or iCloud 
taking up space, and it’s easy for the recipient to deal with as well.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 10, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Shai  wrote:
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> Also, if the person has an Android phone then by default they do have
> access to Google services such as Drive etc. The file could be sent to
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> On 8/9/22, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>> Hi, all.
>> 
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>> I'm trying to send a 135 MB attachment to someone with an android
>> phone.  They don't do Drop box or any other sharing service.  If I use
>> mail drop and it's in iCloud, can they view the video?  I thought a link
>> was emailed to me that I could send.  Is this how mail drop works or do
>> I have it all wrong?
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Re: Using Mail Drop

[Shai]

Also, if the person has an Android phone then by default they do have
access to Google services such as Drive etc. The file could be sent to
them via Google Drive.


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RE: Using Mail Drop

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Somebody doesn't have to be a Dropbox user in order for you to send them an 
email with a link to download a large attachment.
All you have to do is save the file in your Dropbox, then right click on it and 
select the option to "Copy Dropbox Link".
I usually add one additional step because by default if you send somebody the 
link as it is the file opens instead of downloading so if you send them, for 
example, a video file it would start playing.
If you were to paste the link into Notepad you would find that there is always 
a 0 at the end of it and if you delete that 0 and replace it with a 1, then 
copy the link again and paste it into an email the file would actually 
automatically download to the downloads folder of whoever you send the email 
to. Of course they still have to open the email and click on the link.



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Subject: Using Mail Drop

Hi, all.


I'm trying to send a 135 MB attachment to someone with an android phone.  They 
don't do Drop box or any other sharing service.  If I use mail drop and it's in 
iCloud, can they view the video?  I thought a link was emailed to me that I 
could send.  Is this how mail drop works or do I have it all wrong?


Lisa


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Re: Using Mail Drop

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, Anna.


Yes, I emailed the link to my sister and she was able to play the video 
with no problems.  Thanks for the help.



Lisa



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On 8/9/2022 5:53 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Lisa,

When you send the file by Airdrop, the recipient gets a link they can use to 
download it. Since the link is to a video, it may be that they can view it on 
their phone without downloading; I’m not sure. The link is good for 30 days.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna



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Hi, all.


I'm trying to send a 135 MB attachment to someone with an android phone.  They 
don't do Drop box or any other sharing service.  If I use mail drop and it's in 
iCloud, can they view the video?  I thought a link was emailed to me that I 
could send.  Is this how mail drop works or do I have it all wrong?


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Re: Using Mail Drop

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Lisa,

When you send the file by Airdrop, the recipient gets a link they can use to 
download it. Since the link is to a video, it may be that they can view it on 
their phone without downloading; I’m not sure. The link is good for 30 days.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna


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Using Mail Drop

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, all.


I'm trying to send a 135 MB attachment to someone with an android 
phone.  They don't do Drop box or any other sharing service.  If I use 
mail drop and it's in iCloud, can they view the video?  I thought a link 
was emailed to me that I could send.  Is this how mail drop works or do 
I have it all wrong?



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Braille issues in the native mail app seem fixed in iOS 15.6

[Richard Turner]

Greetings,

I sent an announcement yesterday about iOS 15.6 being released addressing some 
braille issues.

I want to thank Apple Accessibility publicly for responding directly to me 
yesterday informing me of the fixed issue.

Here is there note to me:

Hello Richard,

 

We appreciate your patience, and wanted to thank you again for the feedback 
that you provided. 

We are writing to let you know that we released the iOS 15.6 software update 
today that fixes an issue that caused some braille devices to slow down or stop 
responding when navigating text in Mail. At your convenience, please go to 
Settings, General, Software Update to install iOS 15.6. Then, let us know if 
the issue has been fully resolved.

 

Sincerely,

 

Apple Accessibility

 

What is interesting is that 15.6 also fixed the issue of the braille jumping 
back to the beginning when using a hard return in the native mail app.

 

I tested this thoroughly yesterday and it is indeed working great!

 

 

 

 

Richard

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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

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Apple Releases iOS 15.6 and iPadOS 15.6, Bringing a Fix for a Braille Focus Issue in Mail

[Richard Turner]

Apple Releases iOS 15.6 and iPadOS 15.6, Bringing a Fix for a Braille Focus 
Issue in Mail
By AppleVis, 20 July, 2022


Apple has today released iOS 15.6 and iPadOS 15.6 to the public, both of which 
appear to focus on bug fixes and other under-the-hood improvements.

Amongst the fixes is the following for Braille users:

When editing an email in the Mail app using a braille display, after inserting 
a line break focus will no longer jump to the top of the screen.
Additionally, iOS 15.6 introduces a new Web Rotor Summary setting located in 
Settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Verbosity.

The options available are:

Speak
Braille
Do Nothing
These options control what additional information VoiceOver will speak when 
switching to some of the navigation methods available from the VoiceOver Rotor 
in Safari. For instance, the Headings and Links options will speak the number 
of each of these that are on the current webpage when this option is set to 
“Speak.” If set to “Do Nothing” this information will not be spoken by 
VoiceOver.

At the time of posting, we are unaware of any additional changes for blind and 
low vision users in these releases. However, as we always stress, we are a 
small team; and it is not possible for us to test all devices, configurations, 
or use cases. Thus, if you do observe any changes during your own use of iOS 
15.6 or iPadOS 15.6, please do let us know your findings in the comments.

Release Notes

iOS 15.6 includes enhancements, bug fixes and security updates.

TV app adds the option to restart a live sports game already in progress and 
pause, rewind, or fast-forward;
Fixes an issue where Settings may continue to display that device storage is 
full even if it is available;
Fixes an issue that may cause braille devices to slow down or stop responding 
when navigating text in Mail;
Fixes an issue in Safari where a tab may revert to a previous page.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: Mail App Question

[Carla]

Thanks Anna.  That was the next thing I was going to try.  I was hoping not to 
have to do that.  
 
Carla
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail App Question
 
Hi Carla,
 
I would suggest deleting the account on your phone and re-creating it. That 
should solve the problem.
 
Best,
Anna
Sent from my iPhone



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I don’t do mail on my phone very much but I am having rotator cuff surgery and 
probably won’t be able to use my computer because I will be in a sling for six 
weeks.  My mail app won’t update so I haven’t received mail since May 22 or 
something like that.  Has anyone had this problem of their mail and if so is 
there a fix?  Thanks!  I have an iMap account so my phone and computer are 
supposed to interact together.
 
Carla
 
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Re: Mail App Question

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Carla,I would suggest deleting the account on your phone and re-creating it. That should solve the problem.Best,AnnaSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 2, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Carla  wrote:I don’t do mail on my phone very much but I am having rotator cuff surgery and probably won’t be able to use my computer because I will be in a sling for six weeks.  My mail app won’t update so I haven’t received mail since May 22 or something like that.  Has anyone had this problem of their mail and if so is there a fix?  Thanks!  I have an iMap account so my phone and computer are supposed to interact together. Carla 



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Mail App Question

[Carla]

I don't do mail on my phone very much but I am having rotator cuff surgery
and probably won't be able to use my computer because I will be in a sling
for six weeks.  My mail app won't update so I haven't received mail since
May 22 or something like that.  Has anyone had this problem of their mail
and if so is there a fix?  Thanks!  I have an iMap account so my phone and
computer are supposed to interact together.
 
Carla
 

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RE: How to get Voiceover to be silent during a phone call or while listening to voice mail

[Katrina Anderson]

Thank you Christopher for this description.  It is the best I've read 
describing the differences of these features and when/why they might be used.  
I didn't realize voiceover was still running, and gestures could still be used, 
when using the three finger double tap.

Katrina

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Subject: RE: How to get Voiceover to be silent during a phone call or while 
listening to voice mail

To silence VoiceOver for a longer period of time, you can use a three finger 
double tap to silence voiceOver. VoiceOver will still be running, so voiceOver 
gestures will still be in affect, but VoiceOver won't say anything. This is a 
toggle, so just do a three finger double tap to get voiceOver talking again.

If you want to shutdown voiceOver altogether then make sure the accessibility 
shortcut is enabled and do a triple press of the sleep button. Again, this is a 
toggle.

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Marty:

To temporarily get voice over to stop, just do a single two finger tap anywhere 
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Don't double tap, or you will disconnect the phone call.  Just tap two fingers 
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RE: How to get Voiceover to be silent during a phone call or while listening to voice mail

[Christopher Chaltain]

To silence VoiceOver for a longer period of time, you can use a three finger 
double tap to silence voiceOver. VoiceOver will still be running, so voiceOver 
gestures will still be in affect, but VoiceOver won't say anything. This is a 
toggle, so just do a three finger double tap to get voiceOver talking again.

If you want to shutdown voiceOver altogether then make sure the accessibility 
shortcut is enabled and do a triple press of the sleep button. Again, this is a 
toggle.

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listening to voice mail

Marty:

To temporarily get voice over to stop, just do a single two finger tap anywhere 
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Don't double tap, or you will disconnect the phone call.  Just tap two fingers 
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Re: How to get Voiceover to be silent during a phone call or while listening to voice mail

[Holly]

Marty:

To temporarily get voice over to stop, just do a single two finger tap 
anywhere on the screen.


Don't double tap, or you will disconnect the phone call.  Just tap two 
fingers once on the screen.  When you start moving your fingers on the 
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How to get Voiceover to be silent during a phone call or while listening to voice mail

[Marty]

Hello,  Can anyone help me to get Voice over to remain silent during 
phone calls or while listening to my voice mails?  I notice this 
especially when I get a notification.  The notification tone will play 
and VO will read the message or state the time while I am on the phone 
or listening to voicemail messages and it is quite distracting.


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mail app notification problem

['Ming' via VIPhone]

hey!
 I c  turn the mail app notification on.
but, didn't get any sounds or things Like it.


I am using IOS 15.5 with I phone 12


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RE: Mail.

[Carolyn]

Thanks, Joseph. 

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Carolyn, by tapping on it at the mailboxes back button or back but depending on 
what your phone says then go to all mail folder, then go to two edit, then go 
to the messages that you want to select, and double tap on each one, and then 
when you’re done, go to the very bottom, there will be a delete all.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 11, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:





What is it that I do to go to All Mail and get rid of everything there, 
please? 

 



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Re: Mail.

[Jennie Facer]

To add a second account to Mail, go into settings, then to Mail. I believe 
there is Ann account button in there that you double tap on. Now, there will be 
an add account button. I think you know what to do from here.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On Jun 11, 2022, at 9:12 PM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
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> 
> 
> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com> skype: chungchiming9950 face book: 
> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
> 
> well,
> another question I want to ask is:
> how can I add my second E-mail account to the mail app??
> Carolyn (<4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>>) 在 
> 2022年6月12日星期日 上午03:27:58 [GMT+8] 寫道： 
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> What is it that I do to go to All Mail and get rid of everything there, 
> please? 
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Re: Mail.

['Ming' via VIPhone]

 

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well,
another question I want to ask is:
how can I add my second E-mail account to the mail app??
 Carolyn (<4carol...@windstream.net>) 在 2022年6月12日星期日 上午03:27:58 [GMT+8] 
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What is it that I do to go to All Mail and get rid of everything there, please? 

  
 

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Re: Mail.

[Joseph Hudson]

Carolyn, by tapping on it at the mailboxes back button or back but depending on 
what your phone says then go to all mail folder, then go to two edit, then go 
to the messages that you want to select, and double tap on each one, and then 
when you’re done, go to the very bottom, there will be a delete all.

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Mail.

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Re: Annoying behavior in Mail

[Dan Yates]

Thanks Ryan! You taught me something I didn’t know. I will use this technique 
because, just like others, I’ve gotten really weary of the messages jumping 
when trying to use the rotr setting


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> On Apr 17, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
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>  think that’s why I stopped reading threads that way.  I have another way 
> that is annoying, but reliable.  When I am in the list of messages, I expand 
> the thread by flicking down with one fingeruntil VoiceOver says expand thread 
> then double-tap.
> Then I keep flicking to the right until I get to the first message in the 
> thread.  I open the message and read it.
> Then I hit the back button to get out of the message.
> If I want to read any of the other messages, I flick until I find one I want 
> to read and open it.
> Yes, that’s tedious, but that’s the only reliable way I know how to read 
> threads with VoiceOver.
> 
> 
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>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve also seen this, and in my experience there doesn’t have to be as many 
>> as twenty messages in the thread for it to happen. Unfortunately I don’t 
>> know a way around it. Ive sometimes found that closing mail and reopening it 
>> will work, but more often than not it won’t.
>> 
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>>>> On 17 Apr 2022, at 19:22, William Outman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have annoying behavior happening in Mail. When I have a long thread of 
>>> mail messages, say 20-30 or more as happens on a couple email lists, I 
>>> sometimes cannot advance using the message setting in the rotor without 
>>> being jumped somewhere back in thr thread. Sometimes I can get back to 
>>> where I was, but other times I can’t without being bounced again. 
>>> There are times when Mail acts as if I have reached the last message even 
>>> though there are more in the thread. 
>>> Is there any way to combat this such as giving a command to go to X number 
>>> message quickly. Any other suggestions would be helpful. 
>>> Bill Outman 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Annoying behavior in Mail

[Ryan Mann]

 think that’s why I stopped reading threads that way.  I have another way that 
is annoying, but reliable.  When I am in the list of messages, I expand the 
thread by flicking down with one fingeruntil VoiceOver says expand thread then 
double-tap.
Then I keep flicking to the right until I get to the first message in the 
thread.  I open the message and read it.
Then I hit the back button to get out of the message.
If I want to read any of the other messages, I flick until I find one I want to 
read and open it.
Yes, that’s tedious, but that’s the only reliable way I know how to read 
threads with VoiceOver.


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> On Apr 17, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> I’ve also seen this, and in my experience there doesn’t have to be as many 
> as twenty messages in the thread for it to happen. Unfortunately I don’t know 
> a way around it. Ive sometimes found that closing mail and reopening it will 
> work, but more often than not it won’t.
> 
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>> On 17 Apr 2022, at 19:22, William Outman  wrote:
>> 
>> I have annoying behavior happening in Mail. When I have a long thread of 
>> mail messages, say 20-30 or more as happens on a couple email lists, I 
>> sometimes cannot advance using the message setting in the rotor without 
>> being jumped somewhere back in thr thread. Sometimes I can get back to where 
>> I was, but other times I can’t without being bounced again. 
>> There are times when Mail acts as if I have reached the last message even 
>> though there are more in the thread. 
>> Is there any way to combat this such as giving a command to go to X number 
>> message quickly. Any other suggestions would be helpful. 
>> Bill Outman 
>> 
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Re: Annoying behavior in Mail

[Alex Stone]

I’ve also seen this, and in my experience there doesn’t have to be as many as 
twenty messages in the thread for it to happen. Unfortunately I don’t know a 
way around it. Ive sometimes found that closing mail and reopening it will 
work, but more often than not it won’t.

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> On 17 Apr 2022, at 19:22, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> I have annoying behavior happening in Mail. When I have a long thread of 
> mail messages, say 20-30 or more as happens on a couple email lists, I 
> sometimes cannot advance using the message setting in the rotor without being 
> jumped somewhere back in thr thread. Sometimes I can get back to where I was, 
> but other times I can’t without being bounced again. 
> There are times when Mail acts as if I have reached the last message even 
> though there are more in the thread. 
> Is there any way to combat this such as giving a command to go to X number 
> message quickly. Any other suggestions would be helpful. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
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Annoying behavior in Mail

[William Outman]

I have annoying behavior happening in Mail. When I have a long thread of mail 
messages, say 20-30 or more as happens on a couple email lists, I sometimes 
cannot advance using the message setting in the rotor without being jumped 
somewhere back in thr thread. Sometimes I can get back to where I was, but 
other times I can’t without being bounced again. 
There are times when Mail acts as if I have reached the last message even 
though there are more in the thread. 
Is there any way to combat this such as giving a command to go to X number 
message quickly. Any other suggestions would be helpful. 
Bill Outman 


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Re: Deleting drafts in Mail app

[John Panarese]

  You might have to put a subject into the subject field or type something into 
the message body as well as sending it to yourself. This has worked for me 
consistently. It seems that just editing the to field isn’t always enough.


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> On Feb 23, 2022, at 9:31 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
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> I have the same issue, it seems to be a bug associated with the mail app, 
> and, unfortunately, the solution you suggest doesn’t always work. Often, when 
> you double tap the notification of drafts that is taking up real estate at 
> the bottom of the page, you find that the send button is dimmed. When this 
> happens, tapping Cancel sometimes solves the problem, but the whole situation 
> is time  and space consuming
> 
> And annoying. PennySent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 22, 2022, at 11:09 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Karen; open each draft and send it to yourself. When you receive it just 
>> delete it as though you were deleting any other message. Hope this helps 
>> Anthony
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2022, at 10:56 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am using an older iPhone SE, the Mail app which came on the phone.  I 
>>> have
>>> 3 drafts I can't seem to find a way to delete.  Whenever I open that app to
>>> a list of messages, There is a message at the bottom of the screen that
>>> tells me I have 3 drafts in progress.  When I tap on the button that follows
>>> that message, it opens a window listing the 3 drafts, each followed by a
>>> button that opens that draft.  I can't find a delete button anywhere.
>>> 
>>> Any help is appreciated.
>>> 
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Re: Deleting drafts in Mail app

[Penny Reeder]

I have the same issue, it seems to be a bug associated with the mail app, and, 
unfortunately, the solution you suggest doesn’t always work. Often, when you 
double tap the notification of drafts that is taking up real estate at the 
bottom of the page, you find that the send button is dimmed. When this happens, 
tapping Cancel sometimes solves the problem, but the whole situation is time  
and space consuming

 And annoying. PennySent from my iPhone

> On Feb 22, 2022, at 11:09 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Karen; open each draft and send it to yourself. When you receive it just 
> delete it as though you were deleting any other message. Hope this helps 
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2022, at 10:56 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>> 
>> I am using an older iPhone SE, the Mail app which came on the phone.  I have
>> 3 drafts I can't seem to find a way to delete.  Whenever I open that app to
>> a list of messages, There is a message at the bottom of the screen that
>> tells me I have 3 drafts in progress.  When I tap on the button that follows
>> that message, it opens a window listing the 3 drafts, each followed by a
>> button that opens that draft.  I can't find a delete button anywhere.
>> 
>> Any help is appreciated.
>> 
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Re: Deleting drafts in Mail app

[Anthony Vece]

Karen; open each draft and send it to yourself. When you receive it just delete 
it as though you were deleting any other message. Hope this helps Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Feb 22, 2022, at 10:56 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
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> 3 drafts I can't seem to find a way to delete.  Whenever I open that app to
> a list of messages, There is a message at the bottom of the screen that
> tells me I have 3 drafts in progress.  When I tap on the button that follows
> that message, it opens a window listing the 3 drafts, each followed by a
> button that opens that draft.  I can't find a delete button anywhere.
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Deleting drafts in Mail app

[Karen Poulakos]

I am using an older iPhone SE, the Mail app which came on the phone.  I have
3 drafts I can't seem to find a way to delete.  Whenever I open that app to
a list of messages, There is a message at the bottom of the screen that
tells me I have 3 drafts in progress.  When I tap on the button that follows
that message, it opens a window listing the 3 drafts, each followed by a
button that opens that draft.  I can't find a delete button anywhere.

Any help is appreciated.

Karen P

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RE: The Native Mail App

[Christopher Chaltain]

Two more tips regarding the Apps Library. First, there’s a search field at the 
top of the library, so you could search for the Mail app. Second, if you touch 
the middle of the screen and then perform a three finger slide down, you’ll get 
an alphabetical listing of your apps. Obviously, this will make it easy to find 
the Mail app.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Donna 
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Lynn,

Have you checked in the library for the mail app? To get to the app library 
swipe past your last page of apps. If it isn't there or you can't find the app; 
Here is the link to the app in the app store.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mail/id1108187098<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmail%2Fid1108187098&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd2be2c56ddd84dc3c66808d9cd6dbbbf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637766693446869199%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=kWCaQwjaXeoIlBgX%2Bng31jkgce4thYEMYctsxxD%2BMhE%3D&reserved=0>

Donna



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RE: The Native Mail App

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Lynn,

Find the App Store icon on your home screen and execute it. Place focus on the 
bottomline toolbar and swipe right to the last button on the right which is 
Search and double tap. Just below the status bar which contains time, etc. and 
is at the top of the screen is a search field or box which you should double 
tap. The on screen keyboard will appear and you can type the word mail and 
place focus on the search button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen 
and double tap. The Mail app will appear in the search results. It was the 
second item in my results and Voiceover will announce the word productivity 
after saying Mail and then announce two and a half stars. To the right of the 
Mail title will either be an Open button which you can execute if the app is 
still installed correctly on your iPhone or a Get or re-download button if it's 
not.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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White
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Native Mail App

For some reason, I have lost the native mail app on my iPhone 12 pro Max. I can 
get siri to open it but with some type of error message.

I've looked for the app in the Store but can't find it. How do I bring this 
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Re: The Native Mail App

[Donna Casteen]

Lynn,

Have you checked in the library for the mail app? To get to the app library 
swipe past your last page of apps. If it isn't there or you can't find the app; 
Here is the link to the app in the app store.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mail/id1108187098

Donna


> 
> For some reason, I have lost the native mail app on my iPhone 12 pro Max. I 
> can get siri to open it but with some type of error message.
> 
> I've looked for the app in the Store but can't find it. How do I bring this 
> back and how can I make sure that it is on the home page?
> 
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The Native Mail App

[Lynn White]

For some reason, I have lost the native mail app on my iPhone 12 pro 
Max. I can get siri to open it but with some type of error message.


I've looked for the app in the Store but can't find it. How do I bring 
this back and how can I make sure that it is on the home page?


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RE: Mail problem

[Dennis Long]

For those on the Beta please send this as feedback after every beta update.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail problem

 

Hi Kay,

 

Unfortunately the bug with email drafts is still there, and the only way to get 
rid of them is to send them to yourself.

 

I find the sheet grabber on a lot of screens. I am not sure what the button 
visually says, but sheet grabber is how voice over interprets it. It seems that 
according to voice over hints, the button dismisses the current screen. So it 
is a dismiss button.

 

I am not sure if there is a way of making the keyboard disappear. I will have 
to check into this.

 

Chris

 





On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:56 PM, Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

When I am in my email app on my iPhone 12 mini, I am having a couple of 
problems.  The first one is that draft won't go away unless I send it to myself 
just to get rid of it.  I find delete draft and that doesn't delete it.  
Minimize draft does just that and of course, cancel just puts you back to where 
you started.  Then there is this button that says sheet grabber.  What in the 
heck is this?  Then the last problem is that the keyboard is on the page and 
won't go away.  What a total mess!  Any help?  Thanks in advance.


Kay Malmquist
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Re: Mail problem

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi Kay,

Unfortunately the bug with email drafts is still there, and the only way to get 
rid of them is to send them to yourself.

I find the sheet grabber on a lot of screens. I am not sure what the button 
visually says, but sheet grabber is how voice over interprets it. It seems that 
according to voice over hints, the button dismisses the current screen. So it 
is a dismiss button.

I am not sure if there is a way of making the keyboard disappear. I will have 
to check into this.

Chris


> On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:56 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> When I am in my email app on my iPhone 12 mini, I am having a couple of 
> problems.  The first one is that draft won't go away unless I send it to 
> myself just to get rid of it.  I find delete draft and that doesn't delete 
> it.  Minimize draft does just that and of course, cancel just puts you back 
> to where you started.  Then there is this button that says sheet grabber.  
> What in the heck is this?  Then the last problem is that the keyboard is on 
> the page and won't go away.  What a total mess!  Any help?  Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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Re: Mail problem

[joseph hudson]

Hello, we're talking about the bud where if you try to cancel the draft, it 
stays in the draft mailbox.

> On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:05 PM, mich verrier  wrote:
> 
> Hi what bug are we talking about? The sheet graber I think it seems to bring 
> up things like send or something I am not shure though. I am using a Iphone 
> with ios 15.2 from Mich.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: December 19, 2021 10:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mail problem
>  
> Hi K, yeah that stinking bug came back in iOS 15. And as far as the sheet 
> grabber, I don't know what that does.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:01 PM, Kay Malmquist > <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> When I am in my email app on my iPhone 12 mini, I am having a couple of 
>> problems.  The first one is that draft won't go away unless I send it to 
>> myself just to get rid of it.  I find delete draft and that doesn't delete 
>> it.  Minimize draft does just that and of course, cancel just puts you back 
>> to where you started.  Then there is this button that says sheet grabber.  
>> What in the heck is this?  Then the last problem is that the keyboard is on 
>> the page and won't go away.  What a total mess!  Any help?  Thanks in 
>> advance.
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
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RE: Mail problem

[mich verrier]

Hi what bug are we talking about? The sheet graber I think it seems to bring up 
things like send or something I am not shure though. I am using a Iphone with 
ios 15.2 from Mich.

 

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hudson
Sent: December 19, 2021 10:05 PM
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Hi K, yeah that stinking bug came back in iOS 15. And as far as the sheet 
grabber, I don't know what that does.





On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:01 PM, Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

When I am in my email app on my iPhone 12 mini, I am having a couple of 
problems.  The first one is that draft won't go away unless I send it to myself 
just to get rid of it.  I find delete draft and that doesn't delete it.  
Minimize draft does just that and of course, cancel just puts you back to where 
you started.  Then there is this button that says sheet grabber.  What in the 
heck is this?  Then the last problem is that the keyboard is on the page and 
won't go away.  What a total mess!  Any help?  Thanks in advance.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 

 

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Re: Mail problem

[joseph hudson]

Hi K, yeah that stinking bug came back in iOS 15. And as far as the sheet 
grabber, I don't know what that does.

> On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:01 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> When I am in my email app on my iPhone 12 mini, I am having a couple of 
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> myself just to get rid of it.  I find delete draft and that doesn't delete 
> it.  Minimize draft does just that and of course, cancel just puts you back 
> to where you started.  Then there is this button that says sheet grabber.  
> What in the heck is this?  Then the last problem is that the keyboard is on 
> the page and won't go away.  What a total mess!  Any help?  Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
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Mail problem

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi all,
When I am in my email app on my iPhone 12 mini, I am having a couple of 
problems.  The first one is that draft won't go away unless I send it to 
myself just to get rid of it.  I find delete draft and that doesn't delete 
it.  Minimize draft does just that and of course, cancel just puts you back 
to where you started.  Then there is this button that says sheet grabber. 
What in the heck is this?  Then the last problem is that the keyboard is on 
the page and won't go away.  What a total mess!  Any help?  Thanks in 
advance.

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RE: strange issue with outlook mail on iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It does this occasionally for both my work Exchange account and my personal 
Outlook.com account, but I can usually authenticate them without any issues. I 
do however use 2-factor authentication for both and typically do the 
authentication via the Microsoft Authenticator app.

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Sent: December 15, 2021 6:38 PM
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Subject: strange issue with outlook mail on iPhone

I just had an odd experience and wonder if any of you have faced this. My 
resolution is a work-around, not a true fix.   I have a primary Outlook email 
account that I sync to the native mail, calendar and contacts apps on my iPhone 
SE 2020 running IOS 15.1.   I also check this account via outlook on my laptop. 
 I have not changed the password for quite some time.  Suddenly tonight I got 
an error message when I opened my iPhone mail app saying that I needed to 
re-enter my password for this account and a secondary account that I recently 
added to my phone.  I followed the prompts to go to settings to enter the 
passwords.  The heading said that my account was not authenticated.   With both 
accounts, I attempted to enter my correct password, but it would come back with 
the same screen saying that my account was not authenticated.  I went to 
outlook.live.com on my laptop to validate that I was using the correct password 
and was, indeed, successful at logging into my account.  I tired one more time 
on my phone, but still was not able to authenticate.  Since the secondary email 
account is not really needed on my phone, I figured I’d just delete that 
account and not worry about that.  Oddly, once I did that my primary email 
account suddenly no longer needed to be authenticated and synced again.  All 
this happened within the last 90 minutes, based on the time stamp for the 
previous email update.   I’m glad to have my primary email and such working, 
but bothered that I was not having success in authenticating.Have any of 
you been prompted for passwords, even if you didn’t’ change it?  Anything I 
could have been doing wrong?


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Re: strange issue with outlook mail on iPhone

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Microsoft was having an outage only impacting #iOS it isn't just you. 
Hopefully a fix will be forth coming soon. Just wait it out and it 
should resolve shortly.


Take good care.

Robin


On 12/15/2021 9:37 PM, R Van Lant wrote:


/I just had an odd experience and wonder if any of you have faced 
this. My resolution is a work-around, not a true fix.   I have a 
primary Outlook email account that I sync to the native mail, calendar 
and contacts apps on my iPhone SE 2020 running IOS 15.1.   I also 
check this account via outlook on my laptop.  I have not changed the 
password for quite some time.  Suddenly tonight I got an error message 
when I opened my iPhone mail app saying that I needed to re-enter my 
password for this account and a secondary account that I recently 
added to my phone.  I followed the prompts to go to settings to enter 
the passwords.  The heading said that my account was not 
authenticated.   With both accounts, I attempted to enter my correct 
password, but it would come back with the same screen saying that my 
account was not authenticated.  I went to outlook.live.com on my 
laptop to validate that I was using the correct password and was, 
indeed, successful at logging into my account.  I tired one more time 
on my phone, but still was not able to authenticate.  Since the 
secondary email account is not really needed on my phone, I figured 
I’d just delete that account and not worry about that.  Oddly, once I 
did that my primary email account suddenly no longer needed to be 
authenticated and synced again.  All this happened within the last 90 
minutes, based on the time stamp for the previous email update.   I’m 
glad to have my primary email and such working, but bothered that I 
was not having success in authenticating.    Have any of you been 
prompted for passwords, even if you didn’t’ change it? Anything I 
could have been doing wrong? /


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strange issue with outlook mail on iPhone

[R Van Lant]

I just had an odd experience and wonder if any of you have faced this. My 
resolution is a work-around, not a true fix.   I have a primary Outlook email 
account that I sync to the native mail, calendar and contacts apps on my iPhone 
SE 2020 running IOS 15.1.   I also check this account via outlook on my laptop. 
 I have not changed the password for quite some time.  Suddenly tonight I got 
an error message when I opened my iPhone mail app saying that I needed to 
re-enter my password for this account and a secondary account that I recently 
added to my phone.  I followed the prompts to go to settings to enter the 
passwords.  The heading said that my account was not authenticated.   With both 
accounts, I attempted to enter my correct password, but it would come back with 
the same screen saying that my account was not authenticated.  I went to 
outlook.live.com on my laptop to validate that I was using the correct password 
and was, indeed, successful at logging into my account.  I tired one more time 
on my phone, but still was not able to authenticate.  Since the secondary email 
account is not really needed on my phone, I figured I'd just delete that 
account and not worry about that.  Oddly, once I did that my primary email 
account suddenly no longer needed to be authenticated and synced again.  All 
this happened within the last 90 minutes, based on the time stamp for the 
previous email update.   I'm glad to have my primary email and such working, 
but bothered that I was not having success in authenticating.Have any of 
you been prompted for passwords, even if you didn't' change it?  Anything I 
could have been doing wrong?


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RE: Mail

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do you have one mail account or more than one?
Check under Settings > Notifications > Mail that badges are turned on and if 
you do have more than one account make sure you go into "Customize Settings at 
the bottom and then into each account separately as you can configure things 
like sounds, badges and so on for individual accounts and even if badges is 
turned on in the main Mail settings, if it is turned off for a particular 
account that will overwrite the main setting.

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Cook
Sent: November 1, 2021 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mail


Hi All,



I have recently updated to ios 15.1. My Mail icon does not show any new 
messages, but when I open the app, I have new messages in my in box. What is 
causing this?



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Re: Mail

[regina alvarado]

I had the same problem when I updated to 15.1. I think that it was turned off 
and notifications. Look for Mail and then double tap after going into 
notifications double tap and turn on notifications. If I’m incorrect I’m 
certain somebody will let me know. All I know is I didn’t see the badge either 
when I upgraded. Hope it helps! 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Nov 1, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Steve Cook  wrote:


Hi All,
 
I have recently updated to ios 15.1. My Mail icon does not show any new 
messages, but when I open the app, I have new messages in my in box. What is 
causing this?
 
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Mail

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Hi All, 

 

I have recently updated to ios 15.1. My Mail icon does not show any new 
messages, but when I open the app, I have new messages in my in box. What is 
causing this?

 

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Re: Deleting defunct account from Mail

[William Outman]

Thanks, I had already figured it out from the iPhone side shortly after asking. 
Now I just have to do the same thing from the Windows side of things. Not an 
emergency but it will happen in due course.  
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> On Nov 1, 2021, at 12:31 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
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> Bill,
> Go to Settings, then flick down to Mail.  Double tap and In this area, you'll 
> see the various accounts you have set up and you should be able to delete the 
> defunct account in there.
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> Should be a simple task, but I am not sure where to go to do this, or how to 
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> I need to remove an account from Mail that I recently canceled. 
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RE: Deleting defunct account from Mail

[R Van Lant]

Bill,
Go to Settings, then flick down to Mail.  Double tap and In this area, you'll 
see the various accounts you have set up and you should be able to delete the 
defunct account in there.


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Should be a simple task, but I am not sure where to go to do this, or how to go 
about it. 
I need to remove an account from Mail that I recently canceled. 
Bill Outman 


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Re: still no sound with e-mail fetching

[Kathy Brandt]

Yes, the custom notifications at the very bottom is important. In my case it 
said that alerts were off. When I turned them on, it showed my sound choice. 
What then was happening with me was that when a message came through, I would 
get a verbal notification Reading the first line, which I didn’t like and that 
I had never had happen before, so, in comparing my set up with an older device, 
I saw that the updated one had banners showing up in the notifications area, as 
opposed to on the older device, just sounds and badges, so, when I turned off 
banners, everything was the way I wanted. Thank you very much again, Richard :-)



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> he gets no sound. Maybe this is a detail but in settings he has configured
> everything right but is this still a voiceover bug?
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RE: still no sound with e-mail fetching

[Richard Turner]

It is not a bug.
I get all my email sounds which I have set up for my different accounts.

So, probably everything is not setup right.

Settings, notifications, mail, at the very bottom Customize notifications, then 
you have to set alerts and sounds for each mail account from one to whatever.

If that isn't working, then something else is gone wrong and perhaps consulting 
directly with Apple would help.

HTH,



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Hi folks 

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A friend of mine is like I also on ios15.1 and everything seems right he gets 
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no sound. Maybe this is a detail but in settings he has configured everything 
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still no sound with e-mail fetching

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Deleting defunct account from Mail

[William Outman]

Should be a simple task, but I am not sure where to go to do this, or how to go 
about it. 
I need to remove an account from Mail that I recently canceled. 
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RE: going no mail

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The process is similar, you log into your Google Groups account and set it to 
not receiving any emails, alternatively maybe if  you contact Mark and ask 
nicely he might be able to do it for you, his email is at the bottom of each 
message.

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Hello all
I'm wondering how fool proof it is to go nomail on this list for 3 or 4 days, 
with the prospect of switching daily delivery back on. It seems in years past 
that I had a problem with this. I say years past, so maybe things are better 
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going no mail

[deidreandlouise]

Hello all

I'm wondering how fool proof it is to go nomail on this list for 3 or 4
days, with the prospect of switching daily delivery back on. It seems in
years past that I had a problem with this. I say years past, so maybe things
are better now.

 

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RE: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in iOS 15 mail app

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes that is correct.

The first is the default in box and the second as you have found is the folders 
under the inbox 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 23 September 2021 2:39 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded 
in iOS 15 mail app

I'm honestly not sure how I did this, but for me, I have two Outlook icons in 
the native mail app.
One is just the inbox.
Then father down the screen is Outlook that is collapsed, if I expand it, I 
have all the Outlook folders on my phone that I have on my computer.
It has to do with editing what shows and the order in the mail app.
You may want to call Apple Accessibility and see if they have a short answer on 
how to do that: 877-204-3930




Richard
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in 
iOS 15 mail app

Hi I am using a native mail app on my iPhone 11 running iOS 15 and I'm 
wondering if there is a way to keep my outlook account permanently expanded 
within the app so I can see all the folders and don't have to tap on expand 
every time.
Thanks.
Jen

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Re: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in iOS 15 mail app

[TaraPrakash]

It is mighty helpful if you have multiple email accounts 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> You know, I do not know why folders ever collapse in Outlook? What advantage 
> is there to that? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jen .
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 8:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in 
> iOS 15 mail app
> 
> Hi I am using a native mail app on my iPhone 11 running iOS 15 and I'm 
> wondering if there is a way to keep my outlook account permanently expanded 
> within the app so I can see all the folders and don't have to tap on expand 
> every time.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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Re: Issue with Mail app

[Alan Lemly]

I know folks get used to a particular mail app but I'd recommend you try 
Outlook for iOS. I'm still running iOS 14.8 but I'd be curious if the Outlook 
app under iOS 15 does the shenanigans you're describing.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Malcolm 
Parfitt 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:45:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Issue with Mail app

Look like your findings mirror mine.

I don’t what to bring you bad news, but for no apparent reason when a message 
comes in it’ll all happen again.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Sep 2021, at 21:40, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>
> Well guys it suddenly fixed itself I’m not being thrown back into a prior 
> message.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder why you couldn't go directly to App Switcher, close mail, then go 
>> back to it?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of CHELA Robles
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Issue with Mail app
>>
>> Well, I will just keep doing what I keep doing and if it resolves itself 
>> then that will be that. Thanks for trying to help me out my friend. Greatly 
>> appreciate it. Have a great day! At least dictation has improved some on my 
>> end. I do have a question though when composing a message at the top I do 
>> see something called a sheet grabber. What is that? This is within the mail 
>> app by the way.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know of no other solution, the strange thing is that I have found that 
>>> after a while normal behaviour is restored until the next time!
>>>
>>> There appears to be no pattern to this behaviour that I can establish it 
>>> does not happen on every message or on those of a particular type.
>>>
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:37, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did try what Richard suggested and I still get landed back in to the 
>>>> message in this case Amazons automatic message to tell me about my refund 
>>>> for an item that didn’t show up which I had to buy from a third-party 
>>>> seller in the end had to pay more for it though then I should’ve but 
>>>> that’s a entirely different story. Nonetheless I’m still at that refund 
>>>> message from Amazon no matter what I do. Yes it is getting to be extremely 
>>>> annoying.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit 
>>>>> mail, but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the 
>>>>> App Switcher and then exit Mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree it’s an annoying issue!
>>>>>
>>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what 
>>>>>> I’ve been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not 
>>>>>> that I’m making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was 
>>>>>>>> just wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where 
>

Re: Issue with Mail app

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Look like your findings mirror mine.

I don’t what to bring you bad news, but for no apparent reason when a message 
comes in it’ll all happen again.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Sep 2021, at 21:40, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well guys it suddenly fixed itself I’m not being thrown back into a prior 
> message.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder why you couldn't go directly to App Switcher, close mail, then go 
>> back to it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of CHELA Robles
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Issue with Mail app
>> 
>> Well, I will just keep doing what I keep doing and if it resolves itself 
>> then that will be that. Thanks for trying to help me out my friend. Greatly 
>> appreciate it. Have a great day! At least dictation has improved some on my 
>> end. I do have a question though when composing a message at the top I do 
>> see something called a sheet grabber. What is that? This is within the mail 
>> app by the way.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know of no other solution, the strange thing is that I have found that 
>>> after a while normal behaviour is restored until the next time!
>>> 
>>> There appears to be no pattern to this behaviour that I can establish it 
>>> does not happen on every message or on those of a particular type.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:37, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I did try what Richard suggested and I still get landed back in to the 
>>>> message in this case Amazons automatic message to tell me about my refund 
>>>> for an item that didn’t show up which I had to buy from a third-party 
>>>> seller in the end had to pay more for it though then I should’ve but 
>>>> that’s a entirely different story. Nonetheless I’m still at that refund 
>>>> message from Amazon no matter what I do. Yes it is getting to be extremely 
>>>> annoying.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit 
>>>>> mail, but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the 
>>>>> App Switcher and then exit Mail.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree it’s an annoying issue!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what 
>>>>>> I’ve been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not 
>>>>>> that I’m making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was 
>>>>>>>> just wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where 
>>>>>>>> when you check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last 
>>>>>>>> message you reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message 
>>>>>>>> in order to see your unread messages? I know this is happening to me 
>>>>>>>> quite a lot since yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known 
>>>>>>>> bug or if it’s just my phone. Keep in mind I had 

Re: Issue with Mail app

[CHELA Robles]

Well guys it suddenly fixed itself I’m not being thrown back into a prior 
message.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I wonder why you couldn't go directly to App Switcher, close mail, then go 
> back to it? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Issue with Mail app
> 
> Well, I will just keep doing what I keep doing and if it resolves itself then 
> that will be that. Thanks for trying to help me out my friend. Greatly 
> appreciate it. Have a great day! At least dictation has improved some on my 
> end. I do have a question though when composing a message at the top I do see 
> something called a sheet grabber. What is that? This is within the mail app 
> by the way.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know of no other solution, the strange thing is that I have found that 
>> after a while normal behaviour is restored until the next time!
>> 
>> There appears to be no pattern to this behaviour that I can establish it 
>> does not happen on every message or on those of a particular type.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:37, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did try what Richard suggested and I still get landed back in to the 
>>> message in this case Amazons automatic message to tell me about my refund 
>>> for an item that didn’t show up which I had to buy from a third-party 
>>> seller in the end had to pay more for it though then I should’ve but that’s 
>>> a entirely different story. Nonetheless I’m still at that refund message 
>>> from Amazon no matter what I do. Yes it is getting to be extremely annoying.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.
>>>> 
>>>> Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit 
>>>> mail, but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the 
>>>> App Switcher and then exit Mail.
>>>> 
>>>> When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?
>>>> 
>>>> I agree it’s an annoying issue!
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what 
>>>>> I’ve been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not 
>>>>> that I’m making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
>>>>>>> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when 
>>>>>>> you check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message 
>>>>>>> you reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order 
>>>>>>> to see your unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot 
>>>>>>> since yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if 
>>>>>>> it’s just my phone. Keep in mind I had already backed out of the mail 
>>>>>>> message last time I reviewed it but once I’ve closed the mail app and 
>>>>>>> checked for other messages it lands me back into the message I had 
>>>>>>> previously backed out of.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Issue with Mail app

[CHELA Robles]

I tried that too and that didn’t work it will have to resolve itself eventually 
I’ll let you know when it does on my end.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I wonder why you couldn't go directly to App Switcher, close mail, then go 
> back to it? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Issue with Mail app
> 
> Well, I will just keep doing what I keep doing and if it resolves itself then 
> that will be that. Thanks for trying to help me out my friend. Greatly 
> appreciate it. Have a great day! At least dictation has improved some on my 
> end. I do have a question though when composing a message at the top I do see 
> something called a sheet grabber. What is that? This is within the mail app 
> by the way.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know of no other solution, the strange thing is that I have found that 
>> after a while normal behaviour is restored until the next time!
>> 
>> There appears to be no pattern to this behaviour that I can establish it 
>> does not happen on every message or on those of a particular type.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:37, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did try what Richard suggested and I still get landed back in to the 
>>> message in this case Amazons automatic message to tell me about my refund 
>>> for an item that didn’t show up which I had to buy from a third-party 
>>> seller in the end had to pay more for it though then I should’ve but that’s 
>>> a entirely different story. Nonetheless I’m still at that refund message 
>>> from Amazon no matter what I do. Yes it is getting to be extremely annoying.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.
>>>> 
>>>> Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit 
>>>> mail, but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the 
>>>> App Switcher and then exit Mail.
>>>> 
>>>> When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?
>>>> 
>>>> I agree it’s an annoying issue!
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what 
>>>>> I’ve been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not 
>>>>> that I’m making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
>>>>>>> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when 
>>>>>>> you check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message 
>>>>>>> you reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order 
>>>>>>> to see your unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot 
>>>>>>> since yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if 
>>>>>>> it’s just my phone. Keep in mind I had already backed out of the mail 
>>>>>>> message last time I reviewed it but once I’ve closed the mail app and 
>>>>>>> checked for other messages it lands me back into the message I had 
>>>>>>> previously backed out of.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> list.
>>&

RE: Issue with Mail app

[Carolyn]

I wonder why you couldn't go directly to App Switcher, close mail, then go back 
to it? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CHELA Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Issue with Mail app

Well, I will just keep doing what I keep doing and if it resolves itself then 
that will be that. Thanks for trying to help me out my friend. Greatly 
appreciate it. Have a great day! At least dictation has improved some on my 
end. I do have a question though when composing a message at the top I do see 
something called a sheet grabber. What is that? This is within the mail app by 
the way.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> I know of no other solution, the strange thing is that I have found that 
> after a while normal behaviour is restored until the next time!
> 
> There appears to be no pattern to this behaviour that I can establish it does 
> not happen on every message or on those of a particular type.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:37, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> I did try what Richard suggested and I still get landed back in to the 
>> message in this case Amazons automatic message to tell me about my refund 
>> for an item that didn’t show up which I had to buy from a third-party seller 
>> in the end had to pay more for it though then I should’ve but that’s a 
>> entirely different story. Nonetheless I’m still at that refund message from 
>> Amazon no matter what I do. Yes it is getting to be extremely annoying.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.
>>> 
>>> Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit 
>>> mail, but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the 
>>> App Switcher and then exit Mail.
>>> 
>>> When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?
>>> 
>>> I agree it’s an annoying issue!
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what 
>>>> I’ve been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not that 
>>>> I’m making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
>>>>>> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when you 
>>>>>> check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message you 
>>>>>> reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order to see 
>>>>>> your unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot since 
>>>>>> yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if it’s just 
>>>>>> my phone. Keep in mind I had already backed out of the mail message last 
>>>>>> time I reviewed it but once I’ve closed the mail app and checked for 
>>>>>> other messages it lands me back into the message I had previously backed 
>>>>>> out of.
>>>>>> 
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Re: Issue with Mail app

[CHELA Robles]

Well, I will just keep doing what I keep doing and if it resolves itself then 
that will be that. Thanks for trying to help me out my friend. Greatly 
appreciate it. Have a great day! At least dictation has improved some on my 
end. I do have a question though when composing a message at the top I do see 
something called a sheet grabber. What is that? This is within the mail app by 
the way.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> I know of no other solution, the strange thing is that I have found that 
> after a while normal behaviour is restored until the next time!
> 
> There appears to be no pattern to this behaviour that I can establish it does 
> not happen on every message or on those of a particular type.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:37, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> I did try what Richard suggested and I still get landed back in to the 
>> message in this case Amazons automatic message to tell me about my refund 
>> for an item that didn’t show up which I had to buy from a third-party seller 
>> in the end had to pay more for it though then I should’ve but that’s a 
>> entirely different story. Nonetheless I’m still at that refund message from 
>> Amazon no matter what I do. Yes it is getting to be extremely annoying.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.
>>> 
>>> Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit 
>>> mail, but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the 
>>> App Switcher and then exit Mail.
>>> 
>>> When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?
>>> 
>>> I agree it’s an annoying issue!
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what 
>>>> I’ve been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not that 
>>>> I’m making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
>>>>>> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when you 
>>>>>> check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message you 
>>>>>> reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order to see 
>>>>>> your unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot since 
>>>>>> yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if it’s just 
>>>>>> my phone. Keep in mind I had already backed out of the mail message last 
>>>>>> time I reviewed it but once I’ve closed the mail app and checked for 
>>>>>> other messages it lands me back into the message I had previously backed 
>>>>>> out of.
>>>>>> 
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Re: Issue with Mail app

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I know of no other solution, the strange thing is that I have found that after 
a while normal behaviour is restored until the next time!

There appears to be no pattern to this behaviour that I can establish it does 
not happen on every message or on those of a particular type.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:37, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> I did try what Richard suggested and I still get landed back in to the 
> message in this case Amazons automatic message to tell me about my refund for 
> an item that didn’t show up which I had to buy from a third-party seller in 
> the end had to pay more for it though then I should’ve but that’s a entirely 
> different story. Nonetheless I’m still at that refund message from Amazon no 
> matter what I do. Yes it is getting to be extremely annoying.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.
>> 
>> Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit 
>> mail, but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the 
>> App Switcher and then exit Mail.
>> 
>> When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?
>> 
>> I agree it’s an annoying issue!
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what 
>>> I’ve been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not that 
>>> I’m making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
>>>>> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when you 
>>>>> check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message you 
>>>>> reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order to see 
>>>>> your unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot since 
>>>>> yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if it’s just 
>>>>> my phone. Keep in mind I had already backed out of the mail message last 
>>>>> time I reviewed it but once I’ve closed the mail app and checked for 
>>>>> other messages it lands me back into the message I had previously backed 
>>>>> out of.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Issue with Mail app

[CHELA Robles]

I did try what Richard suggested and I still get landed back in to the message 
in this case Amazons automatic message to tell me about my refund for an item 
that didn’t show up which I had to buy from a third-party seller in the end had 
to pay more for it though then I should’ve but that’s a entirely different 
story. Nonetheless I’m still at that refund message from Amazon no matter what 
I do. Yes it is getting to be extremely annoying.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.
> 
> Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit 
> mail, but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the App 
> Switcher and then exit Mail.
> 
> When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?
> 
> I agree it’s an annoying issue!
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what I’ve 
>> been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not that I’m 
>> making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
>>>> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when you 
>>>> check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message you 
>>>> reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order to see 
>>>> your unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot since 
>>>> yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if it’s just 
>>>> my phone. Keep in mind I had already backed out of the mail message last 
>>>> time I reviewed it but once I’ve closed the mail app and checked for other 
>>>> messages it lands me back into the message I had previously backed out of.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Issue with Mail app

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Richard suggested doing the following let us know if it works for you.

Once you have read your messages and are back in your inbox, do not exit mail, 
but return to your home page.  Once on your home page, bring up the App 
Switcher and then exit Mail.

When you then launch Mail, are you in a message then or your inbox?

I agree it’s an annoying issue!

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what I’ve 
> been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not that I’m 
> making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
>>> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when you 
>>> check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message you 
>>> reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order to see 
>>> your unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot since 
>>> yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if it’s just my 
>>> phone. Keep in mind I had already backed out of the mail message last time 
>>> I reviewed it but once I’ve closed the mail app and checked for other 
>>> messages it lands me back into the message I had previously backed out of.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Issue with Mail app

[CHELA Robles]

Well here’s a stupid question is there a workaround it other than what I’ve 
been doing or am I just stuck with what I have to keep doing not that I’m 
making any sense? Sorry if I sound confused.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
>> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when you 
>> check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message you 
>> reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order to see 
>> your unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot since 
>> yesterday so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if it’s just my 
>> phone. Keep in mind I had already backed out of the mail message last time I 
>> reviewed it but once I’ve closed the mail app and checked for other messages 
>> it lands me back into the message I had previously backed out of.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Issue with Mail app

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes, I have experienced the same issue since upgrading to iOS15.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Sep 2021, at 18:05, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
> wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when you 
> check for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message you 
> reviewed or read and you have to back out of the message in order to see your 
> unread messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot since yesterday 
> so I was just wondering if this is a known bug or if it’s just my phone. Keep 
> in mind I had already backed out of the mail message last time I reviewed it 
> but once I’ve closed the mail app and checked for other messages it lands me 
> back into the message I had previously backed out of.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Issue with Mail app

[CHELA Robles]

Hello everybody I’m on iOS 15 and I have an iPhone 8 plus and was just 
wondering if anybody has noticed this bug in the mail app where when you check 
for your mail it automatically puts you into the last message you reviewed or 
read and you have to back out of the message in order to see your unread 
messages? I know this is happening to me quite a lot since yesterday so I was 
just wondering if this is a known bug or if it’s just my phone. Keep in mind I 
had already backed out of the mail message last time I reviewed it but once 
I’ve closed the mail app and checked for other messages it lands me back into 
the message I had previously backed out of.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in iOS 15 mail app

[Carolyn]

You know, I do not know why folders ever collapse in Outlook? What advantage is 
there to that? 

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Jen .
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Subject: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in 
iOS 15 mail app

Hi I am using a native mail app on my iPhone 11 running iOS 15 and I'm 
wondering if there is a way to keep my outlook account permanently expanded 
within the app so I can see all the folders and don't have to tap on expand 
every time.
Thanks.
Jen

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RE: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

[Carolyn]

I wonder how in weather to read the stuff like sunrise, sunset, and the 
barometric pressure, like I have been doing on the bottom of weather. 

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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

It has to do with some combination of having Siri or VoiceOver read the alerts 
and not, and I have not settled on a good answer yet.
I have my first gen SE on iOS 15 and got Big Beg, the Westminster clock app 
working, but the notifications keep being read in the notifications and I 
thought I got that stopped, but not yet.
Too bloody many settings ...




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Minor
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Subject: RE: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

Hi Richard.

I followed your instructions. The good news is I'm hearing the sound that I got 
an email. The bad news is the message is being read. It happens even when the 
phone is locked. How do I stop that, while still having other notifications 
read?

Thanks in advance.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:15 PM
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Subject: RE: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works

In iOS 15, there is another layer to successfully get sound notifications.

Open Settings, Mail.
Double tap on Notifications.
Now, swipe right with one finger until you get to Customize Notifications.
Double tap on that.
Now, you have separate settings for each mail account.
Make sure you have what you want set for the sound here.

You can also get to that screen through the main Settings, Notifications.

HTH,



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I am not getting sound notification when I get a new email but texting and 
everything else seems to work fine Jen

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Same here, Gera. I even sent one to myself from the computer, another 
> address that I don't have on my phone, so sent to the phone. I checked later. 
> The email is there, but I got no notification signal that an email came. 
> 
> Now, I wonder if that will happen with text messages too? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:33 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: IOS15&native mail app: alerting me to fetches no longer works
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 this morning, with the native Email app, no longer 
> notifies me when Emails are fetched, or when I receive Emails; in previous 
> versions of iOS it did this with no problem! I went into the notifications 
> from Settings and things look alright from there. Afterwards I went into Mail 
> from Settings, Fetch and everything seems to be there alright too! What I 
> missing? It feels so weird without te Email alerts from time to time! Thanks 
> for any tips, or is this an iOS15 bug?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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RE: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in iOS 15 mail app

[Richard Turner]

I'm honestly not sure how I did this, but for me, I have two Outlook icons in 
the native mail app.
One is just the inbox.
Then father down the screen is Outlook that is collapsed, if I expand it, I 
have all the Outlook folders on my phone that I have on my computer.
It has to do with editing what shows and the order in the mail app.
You may want to call Apple Accessibility and see if they have a short answer on 
how to do that: 877-204-3930




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Subject: Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in 
iOS 15 mail app

Hi I am using a native mail app on my iPhone 11 running iOS 15 and I'm 
wondering if there is a way to keep my outlook account permanently expanded 
within the app so I can see all the folders and don't have to tap on expand 
every time.
Thanks.
Jen

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Is there a way to keep your outlook mailbox permanently expanded in iOS 15 mail app

[Jen .]

Hi I am using a native mail app on my iPhone 11 running iOS 15 and I'm 
wondering if there is a way to keep my outlook account permanently expanded 
within the app so I can see all the folders and don't have to tap on expand 
every time.
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