Re: ONE PASSWORD

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I'm still setting up mine but friends use it all the time so I'd have thought 
it will work - but I don't know for definite.






Carol P
 

- Original Message -
From:  englishride...@gmail.com
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: 21/05/2018 7.17 am
Subject: Re: ONE PASSWORD

>
>
> The best answer I can give you is that it depends. The developer needs to 
> build in support for 1Password as an option on the login screen.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On May 20, 2018, at 8.50 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> I've finally downloaded One Password to get started with it.  I just want to 
> clarify before I go too far down the time investment, will One Password help 
> me log into apps on my phone or just websites?  Most of my apps keep me 
> logged into whatever service, but I have a couple apps that won't retain my 
> password and I am getting really annoyed when I have to go look up the 
> password at home when I really need the app on the go. It's rather ironic, 
> because these apps that won't keep me logged in are really innocuous services 
> for things like restaurant coupons.  
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 5.56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ONE PASSWORD
> 
> I'm not sure how you got 1Password working like this, but it doesn't work 
> like that for me.
> 
> Anyhow, are you trying to now add accounts to 1Password now that you've 
> created your master password? When you unlock the app with your master 
> password, you'll see an Add New Item button in the top right-hand corner. You 
> can either press that, then select the category you want to add an item to, 
> or select a category from the main screen first, then press the Add button 
> once in that category. Either way, you'll end up in the same area. Decide on 
> an account you want to add, like Amazon, and fill out the necessary 
> information. The URL item is really nifty. If you fill that with the URL from 
> the login page that asks for your username and password, you can then use the 
> Safari extension to fill out your username and password when visiting a 
> website. You have to enable the extension (you do that in the share menu of 
> Safari, I think) and once you do, all you have to do when you're at a login 
> page that you've added an entry to in 1Password, just press share, then 
> choose 1Password, and log into the app either by using your master password 
> or by pressing the button labeled Touch ID/Face ID (if you've enabled 
> unlocking via either of those methods--I have, and I absolutely love it) and 
> then choose your account. If it's not popping up, your login URL is wrong. 
> You can't choose from all your accounts--just the one popped up by 
> 1Password--which is why you need to have the login URL correct before you can 
> do this.
> 
> Anyhow, I hope this answers some of your questions. :were 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
0was On May 1, 2018, at 4.26 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
0was 
0was I'm not sure what you mean by saying you created folders, but how 1P is 
used is really very simple. Every time you visit a Website that requires a 
password, you enter it as you normally would, and, provided you have the 
1Password add-on installed, 1Password will open, prompt you for the master 
unlock password, and offer a dialog to save the password for the Website just 
mentioned. The next time you visit that site, you press Control plus backslash, 
1P opens, prompts you for the master unlock password, then posts the HTML form 
with the login data filled out.
0was 
0was 
0was 1Password remembers more than just passwords. There's a Wallet section 
where you can store credit cards, a secure notes section, an accounts section, 
and at least one other which I cannot remember at this moment. The problem 
iseagetting to those other options in the main window. Neither JAWS nor NVDA 
can find, no less change, the category list without use of the screenreader's 
review cursor. This may only be a problem in 1Password 4. Version 6 may have 
fixed this, but I didn't upgrade to version 6 because I don't want my passwords 
store online, or "in the cloud," as they say. I'll make the responsibility of 
backing up my password vault my own.
0was 
0was 
0was Hope this helps.
0was 
0was 
>>> On 5/1/2018 6.08 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I really could do with some help with One Password as I'm tired of losing 
>>> or forgetting passwordss. . . $.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have created my master password, made an exctra folder for use and looked 
>>> at the various sections; but now I can't quite understand where I type in 
>>> the other passwords I have.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I really do need to get this done and would appreciate any help to make 
>>> sure I get it up and running soon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all assistance that is so readily offered here

Re: RENAMING PICTURES

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Richard,

That's OK with me, but I do notice that sometimes the description doesn't 
appear until you open up the photo, which (if you're just looking for one) is a 
bit inconvenient. What do you think?

Carol P, sent from Braille Sense


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Wednesday, 8 June 2016 1.31 pm
Subject: Re: RENAMING PICTURES

>
>
> One more observation. As far as I know, Apple does not allow anyone to change 
> the actual filename on their device, only the description via the 
> two-finger-double-tap-and-hold.
> I could have said that in my first message, but I've known that so long that 
> I didn't think to mention it.
> If folks want to be able to change the filenames to something meaningful, 
> they need to write Apple feedback since that isn't a VoiceOver issue, it is 
> an iOS issue.
> Richard
> 
> 
> ";The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."--Elizabeth Taylor
> 
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 5.14 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Grant. Richards two fingered double tap and hold is working okay for 
> me at the moment anyway but I appreciate your response!
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 8 Jun 2016, at 03.11, Grant  wrote:
> 
> If you use a Mac and you've enabled iCloud Photo Library, you can assign 
> descriptions to photos in the Photos App on your Mac. These will be reflected 
> when browsing pictures on your iPhone. I'm not aware of any other way to do 
> this using the native photos library.
> 
> Grant
> 
0was On Monday May 30, 2016, at 5.15.16 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
0was 
0wasI'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to 
rename photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found 
have worked well and which are not worth the money?
0was 
0was 
0was I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated 
for at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world and 
I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I ccan use 
and does the job well.
0was 
0was 
0was I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay that 
way.
0was 
0was 
0was Thanks for any help in this respect.
0was 
0was 
0was Carol P
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Re: WORKFLOW

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Thanks, Alan.

Will get it tomorrow!:)



- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Sunday, 10 January 2016 9.18 pm
Subject: RE: WORKFLOW

>
>
> The Workflow app which won the AppleVis Golden Apple award for best iOS app
> of 2015 can be found in the iTunes Store here:
> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/app/workflow-powerful-automation/id915249334?ign-mp
> t=uoccp3D8
> 
> The developer of this app is DeskConnect, Inc. so you might try typing
> Workflow and DeskConnect in the Apps Store search box on your device and I
> bet you'll get it.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 11.48 AM
> To: VI Phone Users
> Subject: WORKFLOW
> 
> I have decided to try out WorkFlow  but, on looking, I discovered there were
> quite a number of different apps with that name. Could anyone, please,
> confirm which one you are using and why? Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
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Re: UK CUSTOMERS AND NEW APPLE TV

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Yes, I hate being without the audio description these days!:)

It's not just a case of having got used to it but everything moves so much 
faster these days so that, without it, you lose much more than you used to.

Carol P


- Original Message -
From: Neil Barnfather--TalkNav  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, 30 October 2015 2.47 pm
Subject: Re: UK CUSTOMERS And NEW APPLE TV

>
>
> Carol,
> 
> Now TV is already on it straight away, but, dispite it being Sky owned, 
> there's still no AD on it even though AD is on all of the same Sky programing 
> through their set top boxes.
> Neil Barnfather MBE
> www.neilbarnfather.com
> Business Consultant & Disability Advocate
> 
> Visit my web-site to learn more about my range of services covering a 
> selection of business consultancy functions to a complete series of 
> disability advocacy roles. All delivered personally by one of the UK's most 
> successful disabled entrepreneurs and established, recognised disabled 
> spokesperson.
> 
> On 29 Oct 2015, at 22.07, chris  wrote:
> 
> I hope Now TV comes to the new Apple TV but am confident it will since it's 
> available on the third gen and perhaps second gen too. I read today BBC 
> iPlayer will be coming to the new Apple TV but no word if it's coming to the 
> third gen.
> 
> On 29/10/2015 21.42, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:
0was Hi all,
0was 
0was Just thought I'd ask UK customers who have purchased the new Apple TV
0was just which channels are available to us, please?
0was 
0was I'm not sure that I want one--yet--but could be persuaded ...
0was 
0was Carol P
0was 
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Re: The final chapter, was: The story continues... Long lost iPhone 6S has finally resurfaced after snow melt

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I'm delighted at this news and do wonder what Apple will say to this adventure! 
Yes, be sure you let them know!:)

I hope that either the screen just starts working again or that you're able to 
replace it very soon.

Meantime, we're so pleased to hear the news!:)

Carol P


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Saturday, 23 April 2016 6.43 pm
Subject: The final chapter, was: The story continues... Long lost iPhone 6S has 
finally resurfaced after snow melt

>
>
> Hi everybody,
>  
> Finally, here is the long awaited last chatper of my lost iPhone story.
>  
> yesterday the package with my iPhone 6S packed in rice arrived. Externally it 
> looks brand new with not a scratch on it. When I took out the SIM tray it 
> seemed like there was maybe a bit of moisture there so I left out the SIM 
> tray and stuck the iPhone in my toaster oven on a really low temperature for 
> a couple of hours just to maybe expel a bit more moisture from inside.
>  
> After that the moment came and I plugged it in. My wife was there and we 
> quietly watched, but the screen remained black. After about 2 minutes there 
> was no change and I thought that answered the question as to whether the 
> iPhone was still working after having been lying on the ground outside for 
> 115 days, first in snow and temperatures of up to com40 Celsius/Fahrenheit 
> and as warm as 620 Celsius (68 Fahrenheit) and of course having gone through 
> the process when the snow and ice around it melted and so on. It was also 
> exposed to the sun, back in March there was another 10 inches of new snow 
> over the course of a week and in the week or two before my brother found it 
> on April 15 it had rained lightly a few times.
>  
> Anyhow, I left it plugged in and when I came back to my office 2 hours later 
> I thought I check it out. I pressed the home button and bingo, Voiceover was 
> there and asked me to enter my passcode. I did so and the phone unlocked. 
> There was of course no service since I got a new SIM back in December when I 
> lost it and I had also just installed a new router at my store so I had to 
> reconnect to WiFi. As soon as I did so the phone started dinging and binging 
> away as emails came in, push notification alerts sounded and on top of all 
> that it started playing the lost sound since back on December 22 we logged in 
> to my iCloud account and triggered the Find my iPhone sound in case I had 
> just dropped it somewhere in the house.
>  
> At that point it had charged up to 82 % and everything seemed totally normal. 
> I went to Settings > General > Software Update and since I registered this 
> phone on the public beta program, I was told iOS 9.3.2 public beta 2 was 
> available for download. I started the download and it downloaded the 1.2 Gb 
> file in about 14 minutes, after that the upgrade proceeded normally and the 
> phone was up and running again in about 12 minutes.
>  
> So, happy ending, right? Well, almost. Shortly after I finished the update 
> one of my employees walked in to ask me something. I happily told her "Look, 
> the iPhone that was lying in the snow for 4 months is working". I held it up 
> and swiped around and Voiceover was chattering. Then she said "OK, but what 
> about the screen". I asked ";Why, what about the screen" and she said that it 
> was totally and utterly black. At first I thought that was no problem, maybe 
> the screen curtain was on. I did a 3-finger triple tap, but to my dismay 
> Voiceover said "Screen curtain on" and not "off". I did it again and 
> Voiceover confirmed the screen curtain was now off. I checked the brightness 
> and even increased it to 100 %, but she said it just was showing a completely 
> black screen.
>  
> So, I guess for the time it's now truly an iPhone for the blind, it works 
> perfectly, I made a Skype call on it to my Mom and both speaker and 
> microphones seem to work just fine, but the screen seems to be not working. 
> It will be interesting to see if in the next few days it comes back. Anyhow, 
> it so happens that my wife and I have to go to Vancouver next week so I'll 
> take it an Apple Store and get it replaced since I have Apple Care Plus and 
> it's of course totally worth it to pay the $130 Canadian which is what an 
> accidental damage replacement costs. Let's hope the screen doesn't start 
> working by then ininsmile*
>  
> The end.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi Richard,

I'm very keen to hear your podcast but the URL written is strange and ends with 
HTML. Could you kindly send it again as I don't now have your original message 
on this subject?

THANKS and I look forward so much to hearing it!

I dabble a bit with the Reader and know it has a lot going for it but haven't 
found it to be my favourite or the one I use a lot, so I'd like to get to grips 
with it some more and, hopefully, use more of its features competently.






Carol P 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Sunday, 13 March 2016 12.06 am
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview

>
>
> I didn't test and he didn't mention any yet.
> 
> I left my display at work, but I'll try to test this week.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4.01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader 4.0, an early overview
> 
> Do we know if there are any Braille display improvements?
> Aleeha 
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 6.07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for that nice overview. I am definitely looking forward to iCloud 
> sink. Does it also back up the voices? I kind of doubt it, since you didn't 
> mention it. But I'm just curious, given all the trouble I had when I upgraded 
> my iPhone and permanently lost access to ivona. I don't want that to happen 
> again the next time I have to get a new I device, such as replacing my iPad 
> mini someday.
> Mary
> PS great music.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
0" On Mar 12, 2016, at 1.48 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:
0" 
0" Greetings,
0" 
0" 
0" 
0" I have Winston Chen's permission to talk about the features in Voice Dream
0" Reader 4.0 so I decided to try my hand at doing a little MP3 recording.
0" 
0" If all went well, he submitted the app to Apple yesterday.
0" 
0" 
0" 
0" www.turner42.com/,vdr4.;html  
0" 
0" 
0" 
0" I hope it is useful.
0" 
0" Richard
0" 
0" 
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Re: Update Question

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I did - and thoroughly and more than once!  

I'll try again some other time ...

I've always managed to find it before ... so I'm guessing that, for some 
reason, it wasn't showing.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Update Question



you have to feel around the screen for it. swiping doesn't work.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone

Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update Question

I couldn't find a download and install button either, no matter what I 
did.


I can only hope that it was because of a jam and that things will resolve
tomorrow, or whenever I decide now to upgrade.

Perhaps someone can confirm where I should find that button?

I even looked at the list of changes thoroughly and went to the end of it,
in case the button was hidden there!  I also double tapped on IOS9, double
tapped and held and hunted everywhere for a download button but found 
none!



In view of the posts on the various bugs one may encounter, I might just
wait a while longer ...

Not quite sure though on that one!

Carol P

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: Update Question



Hi,

There doesn't seem to be a download and install button at least that 
VoiceOver is reading.  I only have my phone, so updating through iTunes 
isn't possible.


Desi




Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 wrote:


Try touching the "download and install" button. Or try updating via 
iTunes.

Chris
On 16 Sep 2015, at 20:40, Destene Noller  
wrote:


Hi Everyone,

My husband just finished updating his iPad and now is updating his 
phone.  Each time I go into Settings under Software Update, iOS 9 comes 
up, but it says it is dimmed.  Is this simply because the servers are 
too busy?  Thanks!


Desi

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Re: Submitting App Crash Reports

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OK, so how does it work?

Carol P

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  Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:34 AM
  Subject: Re: Submitting App Crash Reports


  Yes! Text selection is awesome! I smiled from ear to ear when I saw that all 
the way back to the first developer beta of iOS 9. Try it folks, you will 
wonder how you ever lived without it. Smile!
  Chris

On 17 Sep 2015, at 08:01, Chris Smart  wrote:


  Hi.

I tried adding Edit to the roter, doing a pinch gesture, etc. but no luck. 
When viewing a crash report I was not seeing Edit in the roter there.

However, thanks to the new Text Selection feature in iOS 9, I had no 
trouble selecting all, copying, pasting into an email. So, I advise folks to go 
to Voiceover Settings > Roter and add text selection. It's very handy!

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Re: My top iOS 9 Bugs

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That bluetooth keyboard problem stems back into IOS8.  It drove me mad till I 
discovered you could reload Voice-Over.  Now it's even worse, by sounds of 
things.  ...

Yes, everyone, tell Apple this isn't good enough for those of us not good at 
typing on the phone!

I will do likewise as soon as I experience the problem once I've downloaded.
Carol P

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  Subject: Re: My top iOS 9 Bugs


  Hi 


  Please can folk make sure they report these bugs to Apple, especially the 
bluetooth keyboard one! Whilst I do occasionally use the touch screen, 99.9% of 
the time I use my bluetooth keyboard for everything. I've reported it to Apple 
accessibility, but would strongly encourage everyone else to do the same, 
otherwise it'll never get fixed. 


  Eleanor 

  Sent from my iPad

  On 17 Sep 2015, at 12:10, Devin Prater  wrote:


My biggest bug is the bluetooth keyboard problem. I know, I have, and love, 
my Varioultra, but I have a friend that exclusively uses a keyboard, and it hit 
her hard. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:


  Hi Neal. My understanding is that if you are affected, it will also 
happen if you have your phone on silent. If you just have your phone unmuted 
and on speaker, it appears to be OK as far as I know.

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On 17/09/2015, at 9:38 AM, Neal Ewers  wrote:


Jonathan. Is this phone problem a problem only when using something 
connected to the phone such as ear buds or a bluetooth device? Or, does it also 
effect phone calls if you are using none of these devices and only using the 
microphone and speaker in the phone?

Thanks.

Neal


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
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Subject: My top iOS 9 Bugs

Hi everyone, now that the NDA is lifted, here are some things I think 
you might like to be aware of in iOS 9.
I am enthusiastic about iOS 9. It is significantly more responsive than 
its predecessor, and there are many new features that I'm sure you'll enjoy. 
Unfortunately, there are also some VoiceOver bugs in iOS 9 that range from 
minor annoyances to potentially critical, depending on how you use your device 
and whether you find yourself affected. Here are just a few that you might like 
to take into consideration before deciding whether to wait for a bug fix 
release before installing iOS 9. Remember that a few days following iOS 9's 
release, it will not be possible to downgrade again, so you should consider the 
upgrade to iOS 9 a one-way trip, and proceed with caution if anything below 
concerns you.
1. Audio routing bug. This is potentially the most significant 
accessibility bug I can recall ever to slip through an iOS release, due to the 
number of people who may be affected. Not everyone will be, and at present, 
even after extensive testing with a range of people owning different devices, I 
have no information about why it affects some users, but not others. It is not 
device specific, for example it is happening to me on my iPhone 6 Plus, but I 
know iPhone 6 Plus users where the problem isn't so severe. Nor does it seem to 
be affected by any setting. If you're lucky, it won't happen to you, but the 
only way I am aware of to determine this is to upgrade.
This bug may affect you when you have earbuds or headphones connected 
to the headphone socket of your iPhone. The primary way the audio routing bug 
manifests itself is when you receive an incoming phone or FaceTime call. You 
can usually hear if you're going to be affected by the bug because your 
ring-tone will fade in and out, rather like the way VOiceOver causes system 
audio to fade in and out when audio ducking is enabled. At this point, if you 
press the power button to silence the ringer and then flick through the screen, 
you will find that not only has VOiceOver become unresponsive, but the entire 
phone has as well.
If you don't press the power button while the phone is ringing, but 
instead opt to flick through the iPHone's screen to locate the Answer button or 
review caller ID information, VoiceOver may not speak at all.
Finally, if you attempt to answer the incoming call with a two-finger 
double-tap, you may not be able to, since VoiceOver has effectively locked up.
The bottom line is that if you have earbuds connected, you may not be 
able to answer a call.
Some people have also reported similar problems answering calls when 
their phone is set to silent.
If you rely on your phone for business or safety, this could be a deal 
bre

Re: movingpps with braille display

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This will be a useful one, when I can try it 

Anyone know if there are other additional (or changed) commands when using a 
Braille display?


Is there an up-to-date list anywhere?

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: movingpps with braille display


3-6-7-8 chord, that is space with dots 3-6-7-8.

On 17 Sep 2015, at 20:28, Tim Emmons  wrote:

What is that braille command. I’ve forgotten and was wondering if someone 
remembered it. Thanks.

On Sep 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Hi. This is one thing that was finally added to iOS in iOS 9, you can
now move apps with a refreshable Braille display. How well this works
I do not know since I haven't tried moving anything yet, but there is
a Braille command to activate the edit mode and move apps, just like
the double tap and hold gesture for VoiceOver.

Wayne

On 9/17/15, Stephanie  wrote:

Hi all,
I'm wondering if it's not possible to move apps with the braille 
display?

Thanks,
Steph

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Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?

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Suppose you could try leaving Voice-Over off and type, then turn it on to 
read if you wish.


Let us know if that works.  It's not ideal, but some of us could manage it 
OK if pushed ...


Carol P

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?


Hi Alex

I'm not going to say whether you should advise people to upgrade or not. 
However, the bluetooth keyboard bug is quite significant to those it happens 
to, as it just won't speak or let you type text when you're in any sort of 
text edit field. It just freezes and VO stops talking. The only way you can 
resolve it is to turn the bluetooth keyboard off and make do with the 
on-screen keyboard. But obviously this is by no means ideal when you're 
trying to write long documents or e-mails etc. I'm sure others will have 
their opinions too.


Eleanor

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Hi all,
I'm curious about iOS9's bug that prevents typing with bluetooth keyboards 
for some users. I didn't see this in my own testing, though I don't really 
use a bluetooth keyboard often. I didn't hear about anyone else running 
into this one either, and I talked to several testers during the beta 
cycle. I'm not doubting it happens, I just want to try to figure out why 
it happens. I'm going to be asked by some TVIs and other people whether 
they should upgrade the devices of their students and clients, and I am 
not sure what to tell them about this bug. Any information you can provide 
would be appreciated. Thanks.


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Re: Submitting App Crash Reports

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That sounds a good addition and long awaited, especially for VI's.

Carol P

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  Subject: Re: Submitting App Crash Reports


  Focus on any text field or a web page in any HTML view such as those in 
Safari. Using the rotor, find "text selection". If it's not there, you need to 
select it by going to Settings > general > accessibility > VoiceOver > rotor 
and double tap "text selection". Anyway, flick up or down to choose from 
"character selection", "word selection", "line selection", "page selection" and 
"select all". Once the desired option is set, swipe with one finger to the 
right to start selecting, swipe left with one finger to deselect. Once text is 
selected, you can then do the usual things such as copy or even get the 
definition of the selected text. Enjoy!
  Chris

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OK, so how does it work?

Carol P

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  To: Viphone
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  Subject: Re: Submitting App Crash Reports


  Yes! Text selection is awesome! I smiled from ear to ear when I saw that 
all the way back to the first developer beta of iOS 9. Try it folks, you will 
wonder how you ever lived without it. Smile!
  Chris

On 17 Sep 2015, at 08:01, Chris Smart  wrote:


  Hi.

I tried adding Edit to the roter, doing a pinch gesture, etc. but no 
luck. When viewing a crash report I was not seeing Edit in the roter there.

However, thanks to the new Text Selection feature in iOS 9, I had no 
trouble selecting all, copying, pasting into an email. So, I advise folks to go 
to Voiceover Settings > Roter and add text selection. It's very handy!

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Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?

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I think it's so bad because I for one reported keyboard issues in IOS8 a number 
of times, which went largely unsolved, apart from being able to take out 
Voice-Over and all would be OK when you restarted it.

I had particular problems using Apple's own keyboarde too!  

Carol P

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  Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?


  I run a private email list for registered developers who test iOS, and it was 
quite common there. It was also reported extensively. It does trouble me that 
issues so critical were extensively reported, but not addressed before release. 
But this is the third year things like this have happened now, so I guess it is 
what it is.

  Jonathan Mosen
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On 18/09/2015, at 7:50 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
I'm curious about iOS9's bug that prevents typing with bluetooth keyboards 
for some users. I didn't see this in my own testing, though I don't really use 
a bluetooth keyboard often. I didn't hear about anyone else running into this 
one either, and I talked to several testers during the beta cycle. I'm not 
doubting it happens, I just want to try to figure out why it happens. I'm going 
to be asked by some TVIs and other people whether they should upgrade the 
devices of their students and clients, and I am not sure what to tell them 
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Re: movingpps with braille display

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These are very much appreciated, Chris.

I won't keep saying so though to block up the list but please keep sending 
any you come across or know.


Carol P

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Subject: Re: movingpps with braille display


Here is another one. Space with dots 1-5-6, simulate two finger double tap 
to answer/hang up a call, play/pause audio etc.

Chris
On 17 Sep 2015, at 21:59, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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This will be a useful one, when I can try it 

Anyone know if there are other additional (or changed) commands when using 
a Braille display?


Is there an up-to-date list anywhere?

Carol P

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Subject: Re: movingpps with braille display


3-6-7-8 chord, that is space with dots 3-6-7-8.

On 17 Sep 2015, at 20:28, Tim Emmons  wrote:

What is that braille command. I’ve forgotten and was wondering if someone 
remembered it. Thanks.

On Sep 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Hi. This is one thing that was finally added to iOS in iOS 9, you can
now move apps with a refreshable Braille display. How well this works
I do not know since I haven't tried moving anything yet, but there is
a Braille command to activate the edit mode and move apps, just like
the double tap and hold gesture for VoiceOver.

Wayne

On 9/17/15, Stephanie  wrote:

Hi all,
I'm wondering if it's not possible to move apps with the braille 
display?

Thanks,
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Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?

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Hi Chris,

I decided to update my 4S, knowing the pitfalls, because I wanted to get in on 
the "bugs" and try to force some kind of immediate, total effort on the 
Accessability Team to fix these keyboard issues, and any others I find!

My Apple keyboard is behaving like yours, just not writing in edit boxes.  I 
did get it to write once when I turned off Voice-Over but, the second time I 
tried, it didn't work again.

When I wrote to Accessability, I stressed that it's vital for some visually 
impaired people to use a keyboard for all but short items, and some I know use 
it all the time.

As the problems go back to iOS8 for keyboards and Voice-over, there's got to be 
a solution found!

Carol P

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  Subject: Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?


  Nope. I've tried those two things, rebooting my phone, etc. no luck.

  At 04:19 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:

One person on Twitter suggested that re-pairing the keyboard, or turning it 
off and back on a few times, fixed the problem. Have either of you found that 
to be the case?

  On Sep 17, 2015, at 16:10, Chris Smart  wrote:

  well, in Mail, Messages, FB Messenger, etc. I simply cannot type into 
edit fields with my Logitech Keys-to-Go bluetooth keyboard.  I'm not sure what 
else I can add other than this particular bug affects me. I'm using a 6+ 
purchased in December.

  At 03:50 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:

Hi all,
I'm curious about iOS9's bug that prevents typing with bluetooth 
keyboards for some users. I didn't see this in my own testing, though I don't 
really use a bluetooth keyboard often. I didn't hear about anyone else running 
into this one either, and I talked to several testers during the beta cycle. 
I'm not doubting it happens, I just want to try to figure out why it happens. 
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Re: Invoking caps lock with IOS9 VoiceOver

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I've never been able to do this gesture.  Please, someone, refresh me about how 
to do it!  

Looks like I've just got to now!  

Carol P

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  Do you do a split double tap to reverse that?



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  Thanks Shai. Sorry I should have read the other posts in this thread first. 
Split double tap appears to do the trick here.
  Chris

  At 07:04 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:

Hi Chris,
Yes it is; I misspoke. Using touch typing, I did try to triple tap and
VoiceOver indicates that shift is selected; however, this only
capitalizes a single letter.
At the present time, the only means I have found to invoke the caps
lock is to find the shift and press it once then find actions on the
roter and flick up to capslock and double tap it. To toggle it off,
tap and let go of shift.


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> I thought it was always triple tap on Shift for turning caps lock on?
>
> At 01:27 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> touch screen to invoke all caps I am noticing that VoiceOver will
>> state that the shift key is selected; however, the cap only occurs for
>> one letter and not subsequent ones. Is this a bug in IOS9 or is there
>> something that I am doing wrong? Double tapping the shift key to
>> invoke the caps lock worked in IOS8.
>> Thank you in advance for any responses
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Re: Invoking caps lock with IOS9 VoiceOver

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Thanks.  Will have to practise.  ...  I will.

Would much prefer the old way!  Anyone else feel the same?

Carol P

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  Find the shift key with one finger, keep it there and double tap anywhere 
with a second finger.

   

   

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  I've never been able to do this gesture.  Please, someone, refresh me about 
how to do it!  

   

  Looks like I've just got to now!  

   

  Carol P

   

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Do you do a split double tap to reverse that?

 




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Invoking caps lock with IOS9 VoiceOver

Thanks Shai. Sorry I should have read the other posts in this thread first. 
Split double tap appears to do the trick here.
Chris

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  Hi Chris,
  Yes it is; I misspoke. Using touch typing, I did try to triple tap and
  VoiceOver indicates that shift is selected; however, this only
  capitalizes a single letter.
  At the present time, the only means I have found to invoke the caps
  lock is to find the shift and press it once then find actions on the
  roter and flick up to capslock and double tap it. To toggle it off,
  tap and let go of shift.


  On 9/17/15, Chris Smart  wrote:
  > I thought it was always triple tap on Shift for turning caps lock on?
  >
  > At 01:27 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
  >>
  >> Hi,
  >> I am using an iPhone with IOS9. When I double tap the shift key on the
  >> touch screen to invoke all caps I am noticing that VoiceOver will
  >> state that the shift key is selected; however, the cap only occurs for
  >> one letter and not subsequent ones. Is this a bug in IOS9 or is there
  >> something that I am doing wrong? Double tapping the shift key to
  >> invoke the caps lock worked in IOS8.
  >> Thank you in advance for any responses
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Re: iCloud backup?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I had the same problem and think mine may have started before the upgrade as 
my iCloud backup kept disappearing from availability, or showing at all.


I could only think that I'd reset my WiFi connections but hadn't got round 
to re-writing my original phone name back into the About section.  This 
brought about some interesting times ...  I've now put the name back, 
hopefully exactly as it was before, and note that a backup too iCloud took 
place this morning.


If anyone can confirm I've done the right thing and explain the consequences 
of not doing so, this would be useful information.


Thanks.

I don't know if this sorts your problem, but perhaps it might.  I hope, 
anyway, that you find a solution.


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Subject: iCloud backup?


Bizarre! Just now I noticed that the amount of iCloud storage i have used 
had suddenly dropped massively. I checked on my iPhone 5s and on my iPad Air 
and in settings, even though iCloud backup is turned on, each device claimed 
it had not been backed up for months - but I know this is untrue. My partner 
checked her iPhone 6 Plus and her iPad Air and she had exactly the same 
issue - her iPad even claimed it had never been backed up - which we both 
know is untrue. Anyone else noticing this? Could it be caused by Apple 
increasing our iCloud storage quota to 50GB and in the process wiping out 
existing backups? Or iOS 9?

Thanks
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Re: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or 3-D touch

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Well, I'll be thinking about getting one.  I found that sometimes, even 
though I try always to have clean hands, I'd get bits of dirt/dust on the 
screen which just got worse until I rubbed it gently away with an antistatic 
cloth.


I therefore went back to using a screen protector with my 4S and found it 
worthwhile.


Carol P

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Subject: Re: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or 3-D 
touch



Well, Sieghard, I think you do have a point. On my for S, I never had a 
screen protector. When I got the five as, it was from the store, and the guy 
talk to both me and my husband into getting one. In his case, it paid off, 
as he cracked his screen protector, but his screen stayed in one piece. 
Maybe I'll just do without, rather then go by habit.

Mary

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Mary,

I guess this might be a situation where you just have to try, but you may 
also want to consider not using a screen protector especially if you put 
the phone iin a case with a bit of a lip which prevents the glass from 
touching the floor should it fall. Apple has also stated that they are 
using new glass which is even tougher than what they have been using so 
far and personally I just don't find screen protectors necessary.



Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristóbal

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or 3-D 
touch


I read an article about this just yesterday. On The Verge or MacWorld or 
one of those site.
I can't recall the exact measurement of thickness outlined for 
compatibility, but the jist was that most screen protectors already on the 
market should work with the new S series. There were two other 
requirements mentioned, and again, no problems were expected.
I'm sure someone can look up that specific article or information easy 
enough.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of John Diakogeorgiou

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or 3-D 
touch


Mary that's a great question. I think I will test that one before I
buy or wait for someone else to report.


On 9/18/15, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
Hi Mary, not the glass ones specifically, but apple says 3D touch will 
work

if you use a screen protector.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


On 19/09/2015, at 3:45 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi all,
I am, like probably many others of you, eagerly awaiting the arrival of 
my
new iPhone from T-Mobile. In the past, I have used a tempered glass 
screen

protector on my iPhone 5S, and it has worked very well. Now, with the
advent of this new touch thing, I wonder about whether or not that will
work with such a protector on the phone. This glass is certainly thicker
than the usual film that people by. Has anybody seen anything from Apple
or other authoritative source regarding the utility of these glass 
screen

protectors on the new phones?
Mary

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Re: New unwanted dictation behavior

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I haven't noticed that one yet with my 4S, but Siri is certainly slower in 
responding to my wanting to dictate.


I've also asked a couple of questions and, as before, she's just found 
something on the web for me to see, which is not really what I appreciate 
when in a hurry;  so I'm not madly imnpressed with the Siri upgrade so far.


Oh, in addition, when I didn't dictate (having to stop just after I'd 
pressed the button) she said, "I didn't get that;  I do hope we can still be 
friends", I think those were her words.


Incidentally, I did the same as you, because I don't *have* to do everything 
with my 4S and am soon to get my 6S, so, whilst I've already submitted a 
report about the keyboard not working in edit boxes, I have to say that the 
4S is certainly more responsive than I've known it for a while now..  ... 
That's got to be positive!


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 10:47 PM
Subject: New unwanted dictation behavior


I have read that iOS 9 doesn't weigh in with the annoying double repetition 
when you do dictation. I am all in favor of that.
I upgraded my for S to iOS 9. It's old and slow, so I figured if it went 
down, it would not be a big loss. So I just tried dictating a comment into 
the Facebook post I wanted to make using my for S. And Siri started reading 
back to me what I was saying before I was through. Not only was this 
disconcerting, it screwed up what got put into my note. Is there anyway to 
shut that off? I want it to tell me what I said, but I want it to wait till 
I'm through. Is this just a problem because I'm using an old phone that 
barely made the cut for iOS 9? Or is this a new so-called feature? How many 
people do you know who like to hear back what they're saying while they're 
still saying it? That is a skill that interpreters half. I'm not an 
interpreter. Smile.

Mary

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Re: My husbands for S

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I didn't find that button on my 4S for ages either and, in the end, it was a 
sort of fluke.  I'm not even sure what I did so couldn't really practice 
again.


I do remember flicking, maybe left or right, once I'd got to the end of the 
last page of the "Learn more" document, but I'm afraid I can't be more 
precise than that.


I hope you get there yourself or can find some sighted help.  This is 
something else that Apple should be helping us with, at least with a clue as 
to what to do to get to the install.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: My husbands for S


On my iPhone 5, I had to explore by touch to find the download button. I
couldn't get to it by flicking left or right. On my iPhone 4S, I don't
find a download and install button even by just exploring. All I see is
a learn more button. My plan is to install with iTunes from my PC and
see what happens.

On 09/18/2015 07:13 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com wrote:
All, my husband has an iPhone for S, with the latest 8.4 update. When he 
goes to update to I OS 9, it is already downloaded, but he cannot install 
it, I wonder if anyone else has had this problem and what you did about 
it. Thank you in advance so basically he is not able to update to I OS 9 
because there is not an install button, it is already downloaded but there 
is no install. Thank you


Lelia

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Re: Slow speech with voices other than Alex

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My English speech is definitely faster than before.

Carol P

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Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 4:00 AM
Subject: Slow speech with voices other than Alex


I just upgraded the iPad to iOS 9 and reinstalled the Russian voice. I also 
installed the mail Siri enhanced voice. Experimenting around, it would seem 
that both of these voices are speaking much more slowly than they should 
based on the speech rate that is set invoice over interestingly enough, 
under iOS 8 and I believe seven as well, the four invoices, such as the 
Russian one, would speak at a much faster rate than the default would 
warrant, based on the English speech. It seems like they've over corrected. 
Now, if I want a decent Russian speech rate, I have to up the speed to more 
than I would have for English, which is absurd, since I am far from a native 
speaker of Russian.

Mary

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Re: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or 3-D touch

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Sieghard,

I find it much easier to get off dirt from the screen protector than the 
glass and also find (don't know why) that the protector doesn't pick up so 
many little marks.


Hope that answers your question, without being able to explain why this 
appears to be so to me.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 4:55 AM
Subject: RE: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or 3-D 
touch



Just out of curiocity, why is it better to get dirt and such on the 
screenprotector than on the glass itself? You still have to clean it off 
eventually and youreally don't have to worry that much about doing anything 
to the screen. I usually use the fluid and cloth of my LCD screen cleaning 
kit, but if I happen to be in the kitchen and the screen gets some dirt or 
grease on it, I just rub it with a damp dish cloth and then dry it with a 
dish towel or paper towel. No cloth or towel you are likely to use will 
scratch the screen of an iPhone and as long as whatever  you use isn't 
dripping water it's OK.



Regards,
Sieghard
.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or 3-D 
touch


Well, I'll be thinking about getting one.  I found that sometimes, even 
though I try always to have clean hands, I'd get bits of dirt/dust on the 
screen which just got worse until I rubbed it gently away with an antistatic 
cloth.


I therefore went back to using a screen protector with my 4S and found it 
worthwhile.


Carol P

- Original Message -
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or 3-D 
touch



Well, Sieghard, I think you do have a point. On my for S, I never had a 
screen protector. When I got the five as, it was from the store, and the guy 
talk to both me and my husband into getting one. In his case, it paid off, 
as he cracked his screen protector, but his screen stayed in one piece.

Maybe I'll just do without, rather then go by habit.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Mary,

I guess this might be a situation where you just have to try, but you
may also want to consider not using a screen protector especially if
you put the phone iin a case with a bit of a lip which prevents the
glass from touching the floor should it fall. Apple has also stated
that they are using new glass which is even tougher than what they
have been using so far and personally I just don't find screen protectors 
necessary.



Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or
3-D touch

I read an article about this just yesterday. On The Verge or MacWorld
or one of those site.
I can't recall the exact measurement of thickness outlined for
compatibility, but the jist was that most screen protectors already on
the market should work with the new S series. There were two other
requirements mentioned, and again, no problems were expected.
I'm sure someone can look up that specific article or information easy
enough.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen protector for your new iPhone with force touch or
3-D touch

Mary that's a great question. I think I will test that one before I
buy or wait for someone else to report.


On 9/18/15, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
Hi Mary, not the glass ones specifically, but apple says 3D touch
will work if you use a screen protector.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org


On 19/09/2015, at 3:45 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi all,
I am, like probably many others of you, eagerly awaiting the arrival
of my new iPhone from T-Mobile. In the past, I have used a tempered
glass screen protector on my iPhone 5S, and it has worked very well.
Now, with the advent of this new touch thing, I wonder about whether
or not that will work with such a protector on the phone. This glass
is certainly thicker than the usual film that people by. Has anybody
seen anything from Apple or other authoritative source regarding the
utility of these glass screen protectors on the new phones?
Mary

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Re: What happened to the apps list in iTunes 12.2.0.145?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Neal,

I think Ari's original point was that he can't actually work out which apps 
are which and check/uncheck accordingly.  Can you help with that one? 



We may all need to know ...

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Neal Ewers" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 5:33 AM
Subject: RE: What happened to the apps list in iTunes 12.2.0.145?


Actualy, this was changed in the previous update. I talked with Apple 
Support several weeks ago and was told that this is just how it is now. Not 
quite as easy to deal with, but hey, change happens.


Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 11:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What happened to the apps list in iTunes 12.2.0.145?

I'll check out the latest iTunes update, but unless it was fixed/changed in 
this latest update what Ariana describes is exactly what I am getting.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of M. Taylor

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What happened to the apps list in iTunes 12.2.0.145?

Hello Arianna,

Based on your use of the Tab key, I am assuming that you are using iTunes 
for Windows.


First, I suggest that you install the latest version of iTunes which is 
12.3.


Second, I recommend that, before attaching your device, that you restart 
both your computer and your iOS device.


Third, I can tell you that the device's list of apps are being displayed as 
usual.  That is, upon attaching your iOS device, and navigating to the apps 
area as described in your original post, all of the apps in your iTunes 
Library should be displayed.


Mark
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arianna Sepulveda

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What happened to the apps list in iTunes 12.2.0.145?

Update:
This is even weirder. So, I go to the treeview and select apps. I tab, and 
notice just before I get to the first app name, followed by the size, and 
then by the remove button, that there's a table list view thing that I 
hadn't noticed before. I'm thinking, hey, great! It's still there, and I 
just missed it. To my complete surprise, it didn't list the app names at 
all, just their size, and said either remove or install. I assume hitting 
space on these will tell iTunes to install or remove the app? They weren't 
checkboxes in the list, just lines, so I'm not sure. Anyhow, that's not 
really the problem--well, it could be a problem, but I don't know yet--the 
real problem is that I no longer know what app I'm on in the list.



Thanks,
Ari

On 9/18/15, Arianna Sepulveda  wrote:

As the subject line says, I'm running iTunes 12.2.0.145. Before, when
I plugged in my iPhone, I tabbed to the iPhone button, (as you now
have to do in iTunes 12) and pressed it. I then tabbed to the treeview
and selected the "Apps" option. After that, I tabbed some, expecting
to find the list of apps, with each item being a checkbox that, if
checked, would tell iTunes to put the app on my iPhone, and if
unchecked, would tell iTunes to remove the app from my iPhone. This
behavior is no longer what happens. Instead, I get the app name, then
the app's size, then a remove button, and so on; This continues for a
while, but I can no longer see the entire list of apps in my iTunes
library this way. Eventually, things switch (if I tab far enough) to
showing me pages or something like that. I'm not all that sure of the
specifics, but I'm sure I started hearing stuff about pages and home
screens and what-not.

What the heck is going on? Is this now the new way iTunes does things?
Did this get put back to the usual list in iTunes 12.3? I'm so
confused, to say nothing of frustrated. It seems that with each new
version of iTunes, we have to do more and more tabbing to just get to
the things we want in iTunes.


Thanks,
Ari



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Re: Another Cool Thing About iOS 9

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Yes, I've used it and like it.

Carol P

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To: 
Cc: ; 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 6:07 AM
Subject: Another Cool Thing About iOS 9


Hi guys. I don't know if anyone noticed this yet, but in settings you can 
now do a search for the specific setting you want to modify. For example, if 
you wanted to modify something in Voiceover, you could just type in 
Voiceover in the edit field and it'll take you right there if you double tap 
the search result. This beats a lot of time going to general, accessibility, 
and finding Voiceover that way. To find the search edit box, find the 
settings heading and flick right once. Then double tap and you can enter 
your search result.


Shawn
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Re: Another Cool Thing About iOS 9

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Chris,

You're right here, but I tried this yesterday in Settings and got an 
interesting thing.  It brought up the Braille settings for the BrailleTouch 
app, which I still have in my 4S and use it occasionally.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: Another Cool Thing About iOS 9


It's awesome! First seen in developer beta 1. The only caveat is, for now, 
you cannot search beyond a certain level. So, for example, searching for 
VoiceOver would be no problem, but searching for Braille just does not work 
at this time.

On 19 Sep 2015, at 06:07, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

Hi guys. I don't know if anyone noticed this yet, but in settings you can 
now do a search for the specific setting you want to modify. For example, 
if you wanted to modify something in Voiceover, you could just type in 
Voiceover in the edit field and it'll take you right there if you double 
tap the search result. This beats a lot of time going to general, 
accessibility, and finding Voiceover that way. To find the search edit 
box, find the settings heading and flick right once. Then double tap and 
you can enter your search result.


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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

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We haven't got the News app either in the UK, unless we set language to US.  I 
don't want to do that so will do without as there are plenty of other sources 
for the news for the moment.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 8:04 AM
  Subject: RE: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple


  Hi Ketan,

   

  You are not alone, the News app isn’t even available in Canada and we are 
right next door to The mighty United States of Apple.

  Furthermore, Apple for some reason which of course can’t have anything at all 
to do with money, decided that Canadian carriers should charge their customers 
77% more for an iPhone on contract than in the States. The American Dollar 
currently is worth about 35% more than the Canadian Dollar, i.e. it takes 1.35 
canadian Dollars to buy one American Dollar. For example, an iPhone 6S 64 Gb, 
if I interpret this correctly, costs $299 on contract in the States. Based on 
the exchange rate, said phone should cost approx. $400 or just over here in 
Canada. However, in order to get it Canadians have to plunk down $530 for the 
phone with 2-year contract.

  Interestingly enough, if I buy a phone outright from Apple, the price is very 
close to the US price by the time I factor in the normal exchange.

  It is definitely interesting how often features which Apple touts as 
extremely awesome are also extremely limited in their availability.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ketan Kothari
  Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 11:51 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mobile.accessin...@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

   

  Dear friends,

   

  On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was 
being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which should 
not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is not 
available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is also one 
of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and neither Apple 
maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian consumers.  
Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing 
less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel 
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through its 
website as well as social media.  

   

  With best wishes,

   

  Ketan

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ANOTHER USEFUL FEATURE - AT LAST - ACCESS TO iCLOUD DRIVE!

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I've just discovered that you can now view your iCloud drive in iOS 9 and can 
have it put on your Home screen if you wish.

It all appears to work for me, with a 4S and I was able to find a couple of 
files that could be deleted.  You do get a warning that deleting such files 
will remove them from each item you use with iCloud.  That is fine with me!  


Incidentally, I didn't have room on my Home screen, so it very kindly put it on 
the second page for me, which equally suits me.

This is another plus for me!

Carol P

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Re: Upgrading to Ios9 with the iPhone 6

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If you use a bluetooth keyboard and depend on it for regular input, I'd steer 
clear.  I haven't been able to get mine to work reliably yet.  However, I have 
a couple more things to try over the weekend.  One is that, although it seemed 
to still be paired, I might just abandon that pairing and try again from 
scratch, just in case it helps.

Anyway, I know various people think this keyboard issue is quite crucial, as is 
the fact that some people can't always receive phonecalls;  so think before you 
do it ...

I took the choice to upgrade, because I don't have to use my phone exclusively 
as I have alternatives should I really need.

Hope this helps.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 1:24 PM
  Subject: Upgrading to Ios9 with the iPhone 6


  Hi: I gather from reviewing all the posts on this list that upgrading to Ios9 
won't create any major issues for me. I'm not as sophisticated as many of you 
on the list and basically use English speech email, calendar, texting, camfind, 
knfb reader and the other basic apps on the phone. 

  Any comments would be appreciated.

  Thanks. 

  John Fioravanti, .   


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Re: Power saving mode

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Anyone know if, once put Power Saving Mode on, you then have to manually 
turn it off once you charge the unit, or does that happen automatically?


Carol P

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From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: Power saving mode


Apple is calling this "Low Power Mode" and hence I assume Apple has meant 
for this to be used once you get your 20% low battery warning and you want 
to get the most out of your remaining battery life.
When the low battery warning appears, the option to turn on low power mode 
is on the screen.
You can, however, manually enable it very quickly and easily by telling 
SIRI "Turn on Power Saving Mode".
This will display the "Low Power Mode" explanation screen and you can at 
that point tap cancel to not turn it on or tap continue and low power mode 
will be turned on.
OK, so I now just tried this again and this time it just turned it on 
without showing me that screen, but either way, you can turn it on and off 
with SIRI. I do agree, though, that this would be not a bad additional 
option to have in control centre.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Traci Duncan

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Power saving mode

Where is a good place to suggest things to Apple?

I want to know, why in the world did they not put this power saving option 
in control center?  That would make it easily accessible to toggle on/off.


Would this be an appropriate thing to do via feedback assistant for public 
beta?


Thanks,
Traci

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SOLVED MY KEYBOARD PROBLEM - AT LEAST FOR NOW!

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Hi all,

I want to report that I have managed to solve the keyboard problem (at least 
with the Apple keyboard and, well, for the moment) and explain something which 
may help others.

When I'd upgraded, I found the keyboard was still paired so didn't re-pair it.  
However, it wouldn't write into text boxes but would navigate around the screen.

I decided it was worth forgetting the pairing and starting over again - so I 
did the usual routine, including clearing the app switcher then booting up 
after forgetting the pairing as precautions, then started again.  This time it 
all worked!

Based on the longstanding history with this keyboard and Version 8 of the 
software, I am not yet confident to say that it is going to continue ... but 
would suggest it really is worth a go if anyone's keyboard isn't working!

I am going to re-pair all the keyboards (including the Braille ones) before 
using them, although they are currently showing, just as my Apple keyboard was 
before re-pairing.

Has anyone else done this and got theirs working and/or, has anyone followed 
these procedures and still not got their keyboard working?

Carol P

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iOS9 and Fantastical

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Hi all,

If anyone has upgraded to iOS 9 and uses Fantastical, can you confirm whether 
it's working for you when you go to create a new event?  I can select new event 
and go to write it in, but then I can't read the screen at all so can't write 
it in the edit box.  However, if I add the event using another diary, I can 
read and edit that event in Fantastical.

I'd love to know of others' experiences with this and if anyone has an idea 
what's going on?

Carol P

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Re: question about downgrading if I upgrade to IOS 9?

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Hi Dacia,

The time is very short and you may have missed it by now.  I determined to 
go up to 9 and stay there, bearing in mind all the bugs that have been 
talked about, because I'm finding ways around and don't have a vital 
necessity to use the iPhone when out and about, which can fail, apparently.


Take your choice!  

Carol P
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From: "Dacia Cole" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 10:43 PM
Subject: question about downgrading if I upgrade to IOS 9?



Hi,

If I upgrade to IOS 9.0.  How do I downgrade and how long after can I
do it if I don't like IOS 9?

thanks,

Dacia

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Re: iOS9 and Fantastical

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Yes, you're right there.

How do I find where to report it?

Carol P

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  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:21 AM
  Subject: Re: iOS9 and Fantastical




  I just tried it and you are correct.
  But, even without VoiceOver running, my wife couldn't enter anything. She 
said it was dimmed.
  I think we have a major bug in Fantastical with iOS 9. I also find that when 
I open Fantastical it takes me to a date either in April of this year, or 
October of last year.
  Very strange.
  Richard



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Hi all,

If anyone has upgraded to iOS 9 and uses Fantastical, can you confirm 
whether it's working for you when you go to create a new event?  I can select 
new event and go to write it in, but then I can't read the screen at all so 
can't write it in the edit box.  However, if I add the event using another 
diary, I can read and edit that event in Fantastical.

I'd love to know of others' experiences with this and if anyone has an idea 
what's going on?

Carol P


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Re: Email losing focus when dictating in iOS 9

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Nancy,

Yeah, the text boxes sometimes seem to work differently.  I had a situation 
the other day where my position was spoken as being somewhere in the text 
and the only way I could get to the end was by moving the cursor.  This 
wasn't too much of a bother and I need to do some more editing before I 
reach a conclusion on this one.


Anyone else had experiences like this?  Were you using an external keyboard 
at the time as I was?


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Nancy Badger" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 3:31 AM
Subject: Email losing focus when dictating in iOS 9


Hello,
This is something I have noticed since installing iOS 9. I have also noticed 
it as I have read through email messages on this list today. I dictate the 
subject of the email. Then I double tap on the body of the email to change 
the focus to the body of the email instead of this subject of the email. 
Sometimes the focus remains on the subject and it becomes a very long 
subject. Other times it moves to the end or someplace in the middle of the 
email. I have looked at some emails today where people have accidentally 
written on the bottom of the email. I have also looked at some rather long 
subject lines. Could this be A focus problem in 9.0? I have never had this 
problem before. Has anyone else noticed it?


Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

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Re: is app data included in the iCloud backup

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Yeah, that would be interesting to know.  After all, when you upgrade over 
the air everything (usually) comes back absolutely sorted as you left it, 
though I know for some upgrades (if you have the space) it's not necessary 
that the information is removed, so perhaps that's why!  


Anyone know?

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Vicky Collins" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:04 AM
Subject: is app data included in the iCloud backup


I know that app data does get backed up to the cloud, but I'm wondering if 
it is a part of an actual iCloud backup, or is it treated separately like 
contacts and calendar data? What is prompting me to ask the question, is 
that I'm trying to figure out just how my app data got restored back to my 
iPhone 6.


Somehow, after I upgraded to iOS 9 from the iOS 9 public beta, opting to 
do that rather than upgrade to the iOS 9.1 beta, I goofed up something 
during the process.  For, when I tried to restore from iTunes, only my 
default apps were showing up, even though my device settings appeared to 
be restored.  Then, when I tried to restore from an iCloud backup, I was 
told there were no backups of my device, even though I had backed up to 
iCloud just a few days before.  Although, to be fair, I had checked iCloud 
earlier before I started this process and was told there were no backups, 
and in fact, the several backups I had then tried to perform had failed, 
something I just attributed to using the beta.  I had, though,  just done 
an encrypted iTunes backup manually.


Thus, after several attempts to restore my apps from the iTunes backup not 
working, I finally just restored once again from that iTunes backup that 
preserved my settings, and then I manually went in and put all my apps 
back on the phone.  I first started adding them through iTunes, but found 
that more time consuming than I liked, so used the app store on my phone 
to put the rest of them back.  Then, I was fully prepared to either put 
all my app data on the phone manually, or just live without it, depending 
on the app.  So, you can imagine just how pleased I was to go into all my 
apps and find all my data there and up to date.  For examples, my two 
checkbook programs had my account transactions even from earlier that day, 
Ariadne GPS showed all my favorites and Weather Radio still showed my 
selected cities.  I figured I had overwritten the iTunes backup with all 
my attempts to fix things, and I had lost my prior iCloud backup somehow 
when working with the beta.


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Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

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Do you have to set up a password then to get into that area to do Touch ID? 
(Is this a failsafe method so you can get in if/when the Touch ID doesn't 
work)?


Carol P


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: Question about passcode and answering phone calls


I completely agree with John. Go to Settings > Touch Id and Passcode, you 
have to enter your passcode to get into this area. Then find the Add 
Fingerprint button and just follow the instructions. If you set it up right 
it will be much easier to unlock your phone using Touch Id, it is even 
easier and faster than if you don't set up a passcode and just find and 
double tap the u nlock button. If your phone is locked, you still have to 
press the home or power button to wake it up, then find the unlock button 
and double tap it. Once you set up your fingerprint and have a bit of 
practice, you can do it all in one press of the home button. You press it 
down briefly to wake up the phone, let go but lightly continue to rest your 
finger on the button a second or a bit less and your phone will be unlocked. 
Only time it may not work is if your finger is quite wet or if the button 
might have gotten very dirty. Apple says that with the 6S and 6S Plus the 
Touch Id sensor is new and it is supposed to be up to twice as fast. To me 
this is hard to understand because even with my 5S it's almost 
instantaneous.



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of John Diakogeorgiou

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

no it doesn't. You may find that using the finger print is easier than the 
pass code each time.


On 9/21/15, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,
When I upgraded to I OS 9 yesterday, it made me create a passcode. I
chose not to do the fingerprint, as that seems more complicated to me.
However, now anytime I want to do anything, I have to enter the
passcode. Does that include answering phone calls? I hope not, as that
is very annoying, and takes a little bit of time to enter the
passcode, and by the time you enter it, the call will be ended.
Thank you,
Dacia
PS, if I want to disable the passcode, what I go into settings, and
touch ID, then do something from there?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Problem with App store

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Think there have been some problems with some apps being removed from Store 
(over here in the UK anyway) because they were struck by a virus.  It's, 
apparently, more of the Chinese ones ...

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: r...@q.com 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:37 PM
  Subject: Problem with App store


  Hi,

   

  I cannot update apps from the App Store.  When in the Updates section of the 
App Store, I double-tap the update button for a particular app.  The button 
then announces “connecting”.  It does not get past that point.  I have closed 
all apps in the app switcher and shut off my phone and get the same result.  
This has been going on for over a week.

   

  Please help!

   

  Thanks.


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Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

So, the first time being when you're setting up the Touch ID, or each time 
you reboot, or perhaps once you've locked the screen, or been away for some 
time ...?


Sorry, I'm not quite clear.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls



Yes because if you need to reboot your phone you must enter the
password the first time.

On 9/21/15, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
 wrote:
Do you have to set up a password then to get into that area to do Touch 
ID?


(Is this a failsafe method so you can get in if/when the Touch ID doesn't
work)?

Carol P


Carol P

- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: Question about passcode and answering phone calls


I completely agree with John. Go to Settings > Touch Id and Passcode, you
have to enter your passcode to get into this area. Then find the Add
Fingerprint button and just follow the instructions. If you set it up 
right


it will be much easier to unlock your phone using Touch Id, it is even
easier and faster than if you don't set up a passcode and just find and
double tap the u nlock button. If your phone is locked, you still have to
press the home or power button to wake it up, then find the unlock button
and double tap it. Once you set up your fingerprint and have a bit of
practice, you can do it all in one press of the home button. You press it
down briefly to wake up the phone, let go but lightly continue to rest 
your


finger on the button a second or a bit less and your phone will be 
unlocked.


Only time it may not work is if your finger is quite wet or if the button
might have gotten very dirty. Apple says that with the 6S and 6S Plus the
Touch Id sensor is new and it is supposed to be up to twice as fast. To 
me

this is hard to understand because even with my 5S it's almost
instantaneous.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

no it doesn't. You may find that using the finger print is easier than 
the

pass code each time.

On 9/21/15, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,
When I upgraded to I OS 9 yesterday, it made me create a passcode. I
chose not to do the fingerprint, as that seems more complicated to me.
However, now anytime I want to do anything, I have to enter the
passcode. Does that include answering phone calls? I hope not, as that
is very annoying, and takes a little bit of time to enter the
passcode, and by the time you enter it, the call will be ended.
Thank you,
Dacia
PS, if I want to disable the passcode, what I go into settings, and
touch ID, then do something from there?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: My apple Bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9

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Rose,

Have you tried re-pairing it.  This means you first have to forget the pairing 
you already have, by tapping on that option.

It worked for me when my keyboard wasn't working properly and after upgrading 
to iOS Version 9.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:36 PM
  Subject: RE: My apple Bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9


  I am unable to get a Logitech or Apple keyboard to connect to my iPhone 6, 
never have been able to do it for some reason.  Alone, no one to read numbers I 
may need to enter on the phone, have not found them either.  Frustrating as I 
will be taking a class soon where having the ability to type would be most 
helpful.  

  Do not understand at all how to braille on an iPhone screen, never have had 
any luck with that.  Just truly need real keys.  

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rich Ring
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 11:30 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Cc: Rich Ring
  Subject: Re: My apple bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9

   

  My Logitech K811 works fine with my iPhone 5S. These bugs are just so strange!

On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Neal Ewers  wrote:

 

Well, after all the excitement about this, I decided to try this on my 
backup iPhone. On the iPhone 5, my apple Bluetooth keyboard works fine, It does 
not even have double letters. I wonder if anyone else is using this same setup 
and what their experience is. I hesitate to update my iPhone 6, but the 5 
certainly works in many edit fields I have been working in.

 

Neal

 

 

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Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Well, I know I've said this a fair few times now ... but it really worked 
for me.


Try deleting the current pairing you havef with this keyboard on your 5 and 
re-pairing.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Elliott" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:26 PM
Subject: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.




This is really weird.  When I try to text via email or via text the blue 
toothe keyboards won't let me type a text.  All I get is a drumb noise so 
I can't type in a text.  It works just fine on my Iphone 4 s but not with 
the 5 s.  Both devices are updated to ios9.  Any ideas or suggestions? 
Powering off the phone and turning it back on did not seem to solve the 
problem.  This did not start doing this until today.  Thanks.


Terri

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Re: iCloud backup

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Another question springs from that one:  Which apps should we check to enable 
iCloud backup?

If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.

I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...

Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to know.

Carol P

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  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud backup


  They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, 
of course.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell  wrote:


Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
backup or only from iTunes backup?
Thanks
Harry

 

On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall  wrote:


  An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure items. 
That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so on. It 
will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that your 
Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will instead 
have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't contain 
login details like that. I hope this makes sense.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart  wrote:


Follow-up question:
If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using 
iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the last 
iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to 
redownload all apps?

Chris

 
At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:

  It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. 
For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup 
all your apps and data.
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
  Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: iCloud backup
   
  Hi,
  Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its 
apps and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… tthe 
checked items in iCloud in settings?
  Thx –Steve
   
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Re: My apple Bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9

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Don't forget, if it doesn't work properly in all areas, consider re-pairing, as 
I suggested in a previous mail to you.

It really did work for me when I wasn't able to write in edit fields.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:01 PM
  Subject: RE: My apple Bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9


  Well, I think the batteries I found were old and so, no go.  Got new ones, 
just have not tried them yet since typing on the keyboard was not particularly 
comfortable for me.  Will check it out before the 4th of October.  

   

   

  Rose Combs

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  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:27 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: My apple Bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9

   

  Rose,

   

  Have you tried re-pairing it.  This means you first have to forget the 
pairing you already have, by tapping on that option.

   

  It worked for me when my keyboard wasn't working properly and after upgrading 
to iOS Version 9.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:36 PM

Subject: RE: My apple Bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9

 

I am unable to get a Logitech or Apple keyboard to connect to my iPhone 6, 
never have been able to do it for some reason.  Alone, no one to read numbers I 
may need to enter on the phone, have not found them either.  Frustrating as I 
will be taking a class soon where having the ability to type would be most 
helpful.  

Do not understand at all how to braille on an iPhone screen, never have had 
any luck with that.  Just truly need real keys.  

 

 

Rose Combs

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A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Rich Ring
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: My apple bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9

 

My Logitech K811 works fine with my iPhone 5S. These bugs are just so 
strange!

  On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Neal Ewers  wrote:

   

  Well, after all the excitement about this, I decided to try this on my 
backup iPhone. On the iPhone 5, my apple Bluetooth keyboard works fine, It does 
not even have double letters. I wonder if anyone else is using this same setup 
and what their experience is. I hesitate to update my iPhone 6, but the 5 
certainly works in many edit fields I have been working in.

   

  Neal

   

   

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Re: Dictation, Facebook, and unwanted chatter from voiceover while dictating

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Actually, I think this was the case in earlier versions.  I tend to write in 
smallish chunks at a time, to give myself thinking time and (hopefully) make 
less errors.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Dictation, Facebook, and unwanted chatter from voiceover while 
dictating


  Yes, same thing I have on Facebook.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:32 PM
  Subject: Dictation, Facebook, and unwanted chatter from voiceover while 
dictating


  A couple of days ago, when I upgraded my for S, I noted that I had a problem 
when trying to dictate a comment on Facebook, which was that voiceover started 
talking while I was still dictating. That resulted in trouble concentrating for 
me and a garbled mess for my comment. I rebooted the phone and then dictated an 
email message, which went fine. So I thought the problem was solved, or was 
perhaps something to do with my for S being slow.
  I have been using this 5S to dictate several email messages. I just tried 
doing a Facebook comment, and, lo and behold, I got the unwanted intrusion a 
voiceover dictating before I was through. Has anyone else noticed this problem 
when dictating into something other than a mail message, where you hear back 
what you were saying before you have double tapped to indicate you're done? Is 
this a bug or is it just me?
  I was using the Siri female voice when this latest intrusion happened. Now 
I'm using Alex. I suppose I should try and email using the Siri female voice to 
make sure that it isn't Alex that is doing a good job, and the bug that is 
appearing elsewhere.
  Mary

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NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I have to say that I love the new editing feature and, for this alone, it's 
well worth the upgrade, if you can put up with the bugs so far mentioned ...

I must say, though, that it took me a while to realise that you expanded the 
selection by words or lines (instead of letters) by flicking down.  How I wish 
I'd had a clue on that one!  

Anyway, despite the time I wasted figuring it out ... I'm delighted!

Carol P

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Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.

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Sorry, what did you try!  Your post is no longer at the bottom of this 
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Hi.  I tried that and I still can't text with the blue tooth keyboard.

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Re: iCloud backup

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OK, I don't have anything that does articles, so I'll just leave them all on!  


Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:07 AM
  Subject: Re: iCloud backup


  By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I 
turn off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway. 
Instapaper or Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders, and 
so on from the internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing them up. 
Same for Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype, and others. Of 
course, I did all this back in the caveman days of early 2015, way back when I 
only had 5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a buck a month for 50GB, I 
don't bother and let iCloud back up whatever it wants to. 

On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Another question springs from that one:  Which apps should we check to 
enable iCloud backup?

If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.

I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...

Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to 
know.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud backup


  They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back 
up, of course.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell  wrote:


Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from 
iCloud backup or only from iTunes backup?
Thanks
Harry

 

On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall  wrote:


  An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, 
home screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so 
on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that 
your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will 
instead have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't 
contain login details like that. I hope this makes sense.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart  wrote:


Follow-up question:
If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using 
iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the last 
iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to 
redownload all apps?

Chris

 
At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:

  It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as 
contacts. For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will 
backup all your apps and data.
   
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On Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
  Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: iCloud backup
   
  Hi,
  Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of 
its apps and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… 
tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
  Thx –Steve
   
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Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.

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Glad it worked for you.

See, it really was worth a try!  

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "terri elliott" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.


I hhad to forget the bluetooth keyboard and pair it again and turn the 
iphone on and then I was able to type again with the keyboard.


Terri

Sent from my iPhone

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Sorry, what did you try!  Your post is no longer at the bottom of this 
message ...


Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Terri Elliott" 


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Subject: Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.



Hi.  I tried that and I still can't text with the blue tooth keyboard.

Terri

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Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.

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Great!

I wasn't keen to do it either but realised I had nothing to lose!  

I hope everyone else gives it a go also.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Ruby Alphonse" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.


Hi Carol, thank you I was worried when I tried and it didn't work, but now 
after you wrote I too tried the same way, and I can write with the 
bluetooth and send. thank you again.Cheers, Ruby
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From: "'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone" 


To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.



Glad it worked for you.

See, it really was worth a try!  

Carol P

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Sending texts using the Iphone 5 using a bluetooth keyboard.


I hhad to forget the bluetooth keyboard and pair it again and turn the 
iphone on and then I was able to type again with the keyboard.


Terri

Sent from my iPhone

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Sorry, what did you try!  Your post is no longer at the bottom of this 
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Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Terri Elliott" 


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keyboard.




Hi.  I tried that and I still can't text with the blue tooth keyboard.

Terri

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HELP - WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN ...

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

I've done the small update to iOS9.1, but the phone has now been sitting here 
updating for 25 minutes.

What do I do if nothing happens?

Carol P
What do I do now?

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Re: HELP - WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN ...

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I noticed, OK!  

It did eventually start, thanks, but took longer than I thought it should.  
It's an old 4S though and more recently hasn't always spoken when rebooting 
after updates and my husband has had to call it to check if it's working.  This 
has usually worked, but it didn't tonight - then I heard the welcome reboot 
sound!  

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 10:43 PM
  Subject: RE: HELP - WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN ...


  I would wait, not sure what phone you have, but especially on an older phone 
it could take quite long.

  If nothing happens after an hour or more, put a few drops of oil into the 
headjack port and give the top left corner of the phone a firm tap with a large 
hammer to make sure things slip along. OK, so this was just a joke just in case 
you haven’t noticed.

  What model of phone is this?

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:49 PM
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  Subject: HELP - WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN ...

   

  Hi all,

   

  I've done the small update to iOS9.1, but the phone has now been sitting here 
updating for 25 minutes.

   

  What do I do if nothing happens?

   

  Carol P

  What do I do now?

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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

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Did it work with 9.0?  In any case, I think it's worth forgetting the device 
and pairing once again.  ...


Carol P

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:58 AM
Subject: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard


My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I can 
control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.

But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just bongs.
Quick Nav is off.
This is iOS 9.0.1.
Any ideas?
Richard

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6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

Three questions, if I may:

1Has anyone seen how much charging time the 6S is going to take before use?
2If I haven't already got my sim, can I still set up and get past the phone 
bit till later?
and
3. Has anyone seen anything about what buttons are where on the 6S?

Thanks for any responses.  They're not desperate questions but, useful, if 
anyone knows ...

Carol P

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Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard

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I'm also using mBraille quite a lot and prefer it over the onboard Braille.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard




i actually had not tried it with iOS 9, but it worked great with 8.4.1.
I did try forgetting the device and even rebooting the phone, no luck.
Good thing I've gotten really good with mBraille.
Richard


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Did it work with 9.0?  In any case, I think it's worth forgetting the 
device and pairing once again.  ...


Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:58 AM
Subject: AmazonBasics bluetooth keyboard


My AmazonBasics Bluetooth Keyboard will connect to my iPhone 5S and I 
can control the phone from the keyboard  with the various VO commands.
But, when I go to type in any fields or edit boxes, the phone just 
bongs.

Quick Nav is off.
This is iOS 9.0.1.
Any ideas?
Richard

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Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

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I can't think what you'd want to do that for.  I think you'd have to select by 
word, delete that word, or whatever you wanted to do, then continue.

Do try it out!

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Fazil 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 7:54 AM
  Subject: RE: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!


  Can I select every other word in a line?

  Thanks!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: NEW EDITING FEATURE - LOVE IT!

   

  hi Gerry,

  This is what you do:

   

  firstly, with the rotor, you go to edit and double tap edit. You then use the 
rotor again and go to the left until you reach edit selection. you will hear 
instructions this point. At this time, you select what you want to edit by and 
you do this by flicking one finger down and you will see characters lines et 
cetera. You then just start editing. to do this you then swipe left or right 
right selects whatever you have decided upon and left deselects. after that, I 
cannot describe it properly but you can press delete key on what you have 
selected that should get you started and do experiment because you can't do 
anything dangerous, as long as you don't mind if you do the wrong thing!

  Hope this helps.

   

  Carol P

  Sent from my iPhone using MBraille


  On 23 Sep 2015, at 10:36 a.m., Gerald Mader  wrote:

  I can't quite get the hang of how to use it. How do you use this feature to 
select lines in Say that you want to delete them. If you put it online 
selection and the only thing that you have available to use is words how do you 
make the line selection work? Thank you. Jerry Mader

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Sep 23, 2015, at 3:16 AM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

I love it also! Used it for real the first time today as part of sending an 
article to another list. Worked like a charm.


    On 22 Sep 2015, at 22:35, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

  I have to say that I love the new editing feature and, for this alone, 
it's well worth the upgrade, if you can put up with the bugs so far mentioned 
...

   

  I must say, though, that it took me a while to realise that you expanded 
the selection by words or lines (instead of letters) by flicking down.  How I 
wish I'd had a clue on that one!  

   

  Anyway, despite the time I wasted figuring it out ... I'm delighted!

   

  Carol P

   

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Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

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Only seen the 6 a couple of times ...

There was no mention of a sim when I ordered and we don't usually find that to 
be the case here in the UK.  I have ordered one locally.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Diakogeorgiou 
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  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:43 AM
  Subject: Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS


  It looks exactly like the 6. It should take about two hours to charge. Also, 
the sim should already Bebe in the phone.

  John Diakogeorgiou

  On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hi all,

Three questions, if I may:

1Has anyone seen how much charging time the 6S is going to take before 
use?
2If I haven't already got my sim, can I still set up and get past the 
phone bit till later?
and
3. Has anyone seen anything about what buttons are where on the 6S?

Thanks for any responses.  They're not desperate questions but, useful, if 
anyone knows ...

Carol P


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Re: Line breaks in SMS messages using a braille keyboard

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Try space+E or  dot 8+space.

HTH:

Carol P

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:09 PM
  Subject: Line breaks in SMS messages using a braille keyboard


  Hi,

   

  Has anyone found a way to make line breaks in SMS messages using a braille 
keyboard on a braille display, i.e. without sending the message? As you 
probably know, pressing Enter now means send and not just a new line.

   

  Thanks,

  /David R.


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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

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Be sure to send that comment to Accessability because it's obviously quite a 
messy loop where things can and do go wrong.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Smart 
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  Cc: accessibil...@apple.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:42 PM
  Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the 
new update to ios901?)


  hmm not here it isn't.

  I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the 
problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke again.

  Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard again.

  But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.

  I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then fix 
this issue.
  Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks it. 
Reboot phone to fix.
  But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused things 
to break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my keyboard again, 
not re-pairing, not rebooting.




  At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:

what does every one like about the new update.I think the blue tooth key 
board ishue is fixed.

```Sent from my iPad

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Re: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I was using my 4S with 9.1 today and had threading on.  (I don't veryh often 
do this as I really just prefer to read and deal with ...)


When I reached the thread, I had to double tap on the first message to be 
read.  At that point I learned how many messages there were in the thread. 
On examining the screen, somewhere near the top I could see Thread and then 
3 of 5, or whatever it was.  Not quite what we'd like to see, but maybe 
that's always how it worked.  Are those of you expecting to see the number 
of messages in the thread before you double tap on it?


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread


It appears from what was said by the person who is running iOS 9.1 Beta that 
eventually this will be fixed. Remember that the official 9.0.1 release is 
not the same as the 9.1 Beta and typically the first major update where 
instead of 9.0.x it goes to 9.1.x does not come out until November. From 
what you can read and hear online it sounds like the 9.1 release will be 
somewhat tied to the availability of the new iPad Pro which will be some 
time in November. Until then or until that feature is fixed in one of the 
9.0.x updates you are out of luck.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Gibbs

Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:29 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Ios9 no longer reports number of Messages in thread

I just installed iOS 9.01.I still have the same problem. When you have 
a multiple message thread, it merely says, "multiple items."   It used to 
say the exact number of messages in the thread. Is there anyway to get this 
behavior back?


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Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

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Thanks, Sieghard.  I knew there was something different about the 6, having 
seen one a couple of times, but couldn't recall what it was.  Now I know, it's 
the power button.

Anyway, thanks for your various comments; I do appreciate all your input.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 6:42 PM
  Subject: RE: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS


  Carol,

   

  The phones are usually sufficiently charged to get going at least to where 
it’s set up and where you can check the battery with Voiceover, but you can 
always just plug it in when it arrives which, of course, will also turn it on 
automatically and since there is a short double vibrate when the phone is 
plugged in, it’s not a bad idea.

   

  It has exactly the same buttons as all iPhones, e.g. volume up/down on the 
left side, a mute switch above the volume up button, the home button and the 
power button. Only difference is that the power button is no longer on the top 
right of the phone, but it is now on the top right side across from the volume 
buttons. SIM tray is still on the right side where it has always been and the 
headphone jack is at the bottom to the left of the Lightning port, if you are 
coming from a 4S this will be different since the 4S had the headphone jack on 
the top.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

   

  Only seen the 6 a couple of times ...

   

  There was no mention of a sim when I ordered and we don't usually find that 
to be the case here in the UK.  I have ordered one locally.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: John Diakogeorgiou 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:43 AM

Subject: Re: 6S TOMORROW - A FEW QUESTIONS

 

It looks exactly like the 6. It should take about two hours to charge. 
Also, the sim should already Bebe in the phone.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

  Hi all,

   

  Three questions, if I may:

   

  1Has anyone seen how much charging time the 6S is going to take 
before use?

  2If I haven't already got my sim, can I still set up and get past the 
phone bit till later?

  and

  3. Has anyone seen anything about what buttons are where on the 6S?

   

  Thanks for any responses.  They're not desperate questions but, useful, 
if anyone knows ...

   

  Carol P

   

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

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Do tell us if it works.  I'm beginning to wonder if they're grabbing at straws 
and I do hope not, so will be pleased to know if either of those things work!  


Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 10:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about 
the new update to ios901?)


  What Apple Accessibility told me was to toggle the screen curtain, as odd a 
suggestion at it sounds. If that doesn't help, lock then unlock the phone.

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 wrote:


Be sure to send that comment to Accessability because it's obviously quite 
a messy loop where things can and do go wrong.

Carol P

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  From: Chris Smart 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: accessibil...@apple.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:42 PM
  Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about 
the new update to ios901?)


  hmm not here it isn't.

  I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the 
problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke again.

  Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard again.

  But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.

  I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then 
fix this issue.
  Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks 
it. Reboot phone to fix.
  But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused 
things to break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my keyboard 
again, not re-pairing, not rebooting.




  At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:

what does every one like about the new update.I think the blue tooth 
key board ishue is fixed.

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Re: Facetime Is Missing

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OK, it's probably there still.  This happened to me in Version 8.

Ask Siri to go to Facetime and see if you get it.  If you do then that 
probably means that it's hidden between two others somewhere.  Try to back 
out and see where that takes you, but remember you may not see it.  It could 
also be hiding in a folder which has been, perhaps inadveertently, created.


I can't remember any more detail as to how I got it to be seen again but 
think I just moved some things off the page.


Carol P



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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:17 AM
Subject: Facetime Is Missing




Hi. My girlfriend has an iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0, as I do.  I don't know 
how this happened or when, but the Facetime app is missing from her phone 
and we can't find it anywhere.  I've gone through all of her home screens 
and various folders, and tried finding it using spotlight search, with no 
luck. How would it have disappeared, and how do we get it back?  Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.
Tom
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HELP WITH NEW 6S AND LIGHTNING CHARGER!

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Please can you explain what I'm looking for with regard to the lightning 
charger and how it works, as I've never had one before.

Phone is slowly losing battery ...

Thanks, as always!

Carol P

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Re: HELP WITH NEW 6S AND LIGHTNING CHARGER!

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Thanks so much.

It seems that I may have the right combination for charging, but it doesn't 
appear to work in any electric outlet I've tried;  howeverk, it could just 
be stiff so I'll give it another go later and also check for any missed 
paper.


Meantime, I'd decided to plug it into my computer, so all is well on that 
front now.


Thanks so much!

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Feir" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: HELP WITH NEW 6S AND LIGHTNING CHARGER!



Hello Carol. I have a 5S and it uses a lightning charger. The charger
consists of a cable with a USB end and a small end which goes into the
charging port on your phone. There should also be a small cube with a
two-pronged electrical plug. If I remember correctly, the cord and
cube both have wrapping material on them which should be removed. The
side of the cube directly opposite the prongs has a slot which you fit
the USB end of the cord into. Once you do that, plug the other end of
the cord into your phone and then plug the plug end into an electrical
outlet. If you prefer, you can also simply plug the USB end of the
cable into a usb port on your computer to charge your phone. Hope that
gets you past your difficulty. Enjoy your new phone.

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Please can you explain what I'm looking for with regard to the lightning
charger and how it works, as I've never had one before.

Phone is slowly losing battery ...

Thanks, as always!

Carol P

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Alex, did this work?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 10:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about 
the new update to ios901?)


  What Apple Accessibility told me was to toggle the screen curtain, as odd a 
suggestion at it sounds. If that doesn't help, lock then unlock the phone.

On Sep 24, 2015, at 14:09, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Be sure to send that comment to Accessability because it's obviously quite 
a messy loop where things can and do go wrong.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Smart 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: accessibil...@apple.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:42 PM
  Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about 
the new update to ios901?)


  hmm not here it isn't.

  I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the 
problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke again.

  Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard again.

  But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.

  I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then 
fix this issue.
  Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks 
it. Reboot phone to fix.
  But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused 
things to break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my keyboard 
again, not re-pairing, not rebooting.




  At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:

what does every one like about the new update.I think the blue tooth 
key board ishue is fixed.

```Sent from my iPad

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MORE HELP, PLEASE!

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

Because of circumstances beyond my control and that I cannot use iTunes to set 
up my new phone, I need to be clear about which option I should go for, bearing 
in mind I could either set up as new or whatever the other option is, 
presumably.  I do have Cloud items backed up (with my other phone).

I would welcome advice now about which method I should choose and why and what, 
in these circumstances, I'll get on my new phone at the end.  For example, will 
I get all my apps back and my purchased music and in which method would this 
work, if either?  Should I really go for the new phone option, because there 
are details I need to give that don't show up anywhere else?

Thank you so much for all those kind helping offers recently.  It's so much 
appreciated and I hope this will be the last question for a while.

Carol P

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Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!

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OK, so which option is that as I set up this phone?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  I plan to restore from iCloud. You will get everything back.

  John Diakogeorgiou

  On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:21 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hi all,

Because of circumstances beyond my control and that I cannot use iTunes to 
set up my new phone, I need to be clear about which option I should go for, 
bearing in mind I could either set up as new or whatever the other option is, 
presumably.  I do have Cloud items backed up (with my other phone).

I would welcome advice now about which method I should choose and why and 
what, in these circumstances, I'll get on my new phone at the end.  For 
example, will I get all my apps back and my purchased music and in which method 
would this work, if either?  Should I really go for the new phone option, 
because there are details I need to give that don't show up anywhere else?

Thank you so much for all those kind helping offers recently.  It's so much 
appreciated and I hope this will be the last question for a while.

Carol P


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Re: HELP WITH NEW 6S AND LIGHTNING CHARGER!

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

OK, got that sorted now, thanks.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: HELP WITH NEW 6S AND LIGHTNING CHARGER!


Carol,

Christopher already explained how the Lightning cable/plug looks, just plug 
the regular USB end into the charger and an outlet, then plug the small end 
into your iPhone on the bottom in the middle. The port is exactly where the 
30 pin connector used to go in but it's of course a lot smaller and, as 
Christopher said, the nice thing is that you can't plug it in wrong, it goes 
either way.


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Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HELP WITH NEW 6S AND LIGHTNING CHARGER!

If you're familiar with an older iPhone, like the 4S or earlier, then
the Lightning cable is analogous to the older cable which had a wide 30
pin connector on the end that plugged into the phone. On the iPhone 5
and newer iPhones, instead of a 30 pin connector you have a Lightning
connector which plugs into the phone. It's reversible, so you can plug
it in either way. It's also quite a bit smaller than the 30 pin
connector. It feels kind of like a mini USB connector.

On 09/25/2015 06:37 AM, Michael Feir wrote:

Hello Carol. I have a 5S and it uses a lightning charger. The charger
consists of a cable with a USB end and a small end which goes into the
charging port on your phone. There should also be a small cube with a
two-pronged electrical plug. If I remember correctly, the cord and
cube both have wrapping material on them which should be removed. The
side of the cube directly opposite the prongs has a slot which you fit
the USB end of the cord into. Once you do that, plug the other end of
the cord into your phone and then plug the plug end into an electrical
outlet. If you prefer, you can also simply plug the USB end of the
cable into a usb port on your computer to charge your phone. Hope that
gets you past your difficulty. Enjoy your new phone.

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Please can you explain what I'm looking for with regard to the lightning
charger and how it works, as I've never had one before.

Phone is slowly losing battery ...

Thanks, as always!

Carol P

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Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Got it and all sortede now.  Backup worked fine and all my settings were also 
right.

You'll have no difficulty working out which option you want, John.

Just got to get the lightning plug to work but, till then, it's on the computer 
to charge.

BIG THANKS TO EVERYONE!

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  I don't know the exact wording but don't choose set up as new phone. I will 
be able to answer better when UPS shows up.

  John Diakogeorgiou

  On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:27 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


OK, so which option is that as I set up this phone?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  I plan to restore from iCloud. You will get everything back.

  John Diakogeorgiou

  On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:21 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via 
VIPhone  wrote:


Hi all,

Because of circumstances beyond my control and that I cannot use iTunes 
to set up my new phone, I need to be clear about which option I should go for, 
bearing in mind I could either set up as new or whatever the other option is, 
presumably.  I do have Cloud items backed up (with my other phone).

I would welcome advice now about which method I should choose and why 
and what, in these circumstances, I'll get on my new phone at the end.  For 
example, will I get all my apps back and my purchased music and in which method 
would this work, if either?  Should I really go for the new phone option, 
because there are details I need to give that don't show up anywhere else?

Thank you so much for all those kind helping offers recently.  It's so 
much appreciated and I hope this will be the last question for a while.

Carol P


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Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Just not charging, no matter how firmly everything is in.  Can't find any paper 
left anywhere.  ...

May be a trip to the Apple Store ...

Carol P

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  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:53 PM
  Subject: Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  What's wrong with your USB to AC adapter?




  Thanks,
  Ari

  On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:14 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Got it and all sortede now.  Backup worked fine and all my settings were 
also right.

You'll have no difficulty working out which option you want, John.

Just got to get the lightning plug to work but, till then, it's on the 
computer to charge.

BIG THANKS TO EVERYONE!

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Diakogeorgiou 
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  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  I don't know the exact wording but don't choose set up as new phone. I 
will be able to answer better when UPS shows up.

  John Diakogeorgiou

  On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:27 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via 
VIPhone  wrote:


OK, so which option is that as I set up this phone?

Carol P

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  From: John Diakogeorgiou 
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  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  I plan to restore from iCloud. You will get everything back.

  John Diakogeorgiou

      On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:21 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via 
VIPhone  wrote:


Hi all,

Because of circumstances beyond my control and that I cannot use 
iTunes to set up my new phone, I need to be clear about which option I should 
go for, bearing in mind I could either set up as new or whatever the other 
option is, presumably.  I do have Cloud items backed up (with my other phone).

I would welcome advice now about which method I should choose and 
why and what, in these circumstances, I'll get on my new phone at the end.  For 
example, will I get all my apps back and my purchased music and in which method 
would this work, if either?  Should I really go for the new phone option, 
because there are details I need to give that don't show up anywhere else?

Thank you so much for all those kind helping offers recently.  It's 
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Carol P


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Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!

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I was able to install from my iCloud backup and found very few things that 
weren't passworded, which I expected, and all settings appear to be as they 
were, remarkably, on my 4S.

I'm well pleased!

Carol P

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  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:52 PM
  Subject: Re: MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  I agree with John. If you cannot use an encrypted iTunes backup you're only 
reasonable choice is the cloud, that is, unless you want to totally redo your 
phone. Then you can start as new and only download those things that you want. 
You would have to make all new folders.
  Mary
  PS because you can't use the encrypted backup, all your saved network 
passwords are going to be lost, so you will have to enter them all again. If 
you have lots of networks that you connect with, that might be something of a 
pain.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:26 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
wrote:


I plan to restore from iCloud. You will get everything back.

John Diakogeorgiou

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  Hi all,

  Because of circumstances beyond my control and that I cannot use iTunes 
to set up my new phone, I need to be clear about which option I should go for, 
bearing in mind I could either set up as new or whatever the other option is, 
presumably.  I do have Cloud items backed up (with my other phone).

  I would welcome advice now about which method I should choose and why and 
what, in these circumstances, I'll get on my new phone at the end.  For 
example, will I get all my apps back and my purchased music and in which method 
would this work, if either?  Should I really go for the new phone option, 
because there are details I need to give that don't show up anywhere else?

  Thank you so much for all those kind helping offers recently.  It's so 
much appreciated and I hope this will be the last question for a while.

  Carol P


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Re: Flying Ruler it works

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How accurate do you think it is?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Beaver 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM
  Subject: Flying Ruler it works


  Hi,

  For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  
It works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

  Just thought some of you might be interested.

  Dan Beaver

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendations.

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Oh, so there is a new keyboard?  I saw the one for the iPad, but is this for 
any i device, Jonathan?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan Mosen 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 9:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendations.


  Hi Anita, mine is still shipping, but I just ordered an iClever foldable 
Bluetooth keyboard from Amazon. Apparently, when you unfold it, it's full-sized 
without a number pad, but it folds up nicely for transport in your pocket. 
Really looking forward to having a play.
  In the meantime I have my Logitech Easy Switch keyboard which is great.

  Jonathan Mosen
  Mosen Consulting
  Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
  http://Mosen.org


On 25/09/2015, at 10:14 AM, Anita  wrote:


Hi List,
What's the most popular model of Bluetooth wireless keyboards for the 
Mac and IOS devices? It'd be nice to have one that folds, but isn't a 
must-have. When purchasing one of these, is the numpad included?
Thanks,
Anita


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Re: Flying Ruler it works

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Thanks for that.  I think I'll get it, because it's free today!

Carol P

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 1:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works


  Hi,

  Well, it claims to be accurate to .06 of an inch.

  Personally with my small trial I found it very accurate indeed.  I started it 
and then moved it only about an inch and a half and it told me it had moved 
1.43 inches.

  I haven't tried it with actual measurements yet but so far I think it is 
going to be very good.

  Dan Beaver


  From: 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:19 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works


  How accurate do you think it is?

  Carol P

- Original Message - 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM
Subject: Flying Ruler it works


Hi,

For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  
It works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

Just thought some of you might be interested.

Dan Beaver

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Re: HOW TO SEARCH FOR UNREAD MESSAGES IN MAIL BOXES

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Hi Sieghard,

Thanks so much for your explanation.  I'm not quite there yet ...

How do you tell which mail boxes are on and off, please as they don't 
actually say "On/Off" to me.  Also, do you have to turn in-boxes off before 
you can turn on the box you want to display?


Sorry, but it's not quite working for me.

Carol P



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From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: HOW TO SEARCH FOR UNREAD MESSAGES IN MAIL BOXES


Hi Carol,

When you open the mail app, make sure you are at the main view, that is 
where you see your account or accounts and mailboxes. At the top right is an 
"Edit" button. Activate it and then explore the screen. Here you can now 
turn off, for example, the "All Inboxes" mailbox which I believe is on by 
default and you can turn on mailboxes like "Unread", "All Trash", "All 
Drafts" etc. If you select to display the "unread" mailbox, then you can 
double tap on it to display only unread messages in any of the accounts you 
have set up.
Note that you can also reorder in which order your mailboxes and accounts 
are displayed, e.g. you can put "Unread" at the top or put "VIP" at the top 
etc. To do this, find the "Reorder" button to the right of each mailbox, 
double tap and hold on it and then drag your finger up or down on the 
screen.



Regards,
Sieghard


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Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:48 PM
To: VI Phone Users 
Subject: HOW TO SEARCH FOR UNREAD MESSAGES IN MAIL BOXES

hi all,

I saw a recent tip on how to find the unmarked messages in mailboxes other 
than the inbox, but now I can't find it. At the time of reading it, I didn't 
really understand it either! I know it involved changing the view of the 
mailbox. However, I can't even find how to view the mailbox, so can't go any 
further!


If anyone has a clue on this, please let me know!

Thanks!



Carol P
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Re: HOW TO SEARCH FOR UNREAD MESSAGES IN MAIL BOXES

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Hi Sieghard,

Thanks so much for your explanation.  I'm not quite there yet ...

How do you tell which mail boxes are on and off, please as they don't 
actually say "On/Off" to me.  Also, do you have to turn in-boxes off before 
you can turn on the box you want to display?


Sorry, but it's not quite working for me.

Carol P



- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: HOW TO SEARCH FOR UNREAD MESSAGES IN MAIL BOXES


Hi Carol,

When you open the mail app, make sure you are at the main view, that is 
where you see your account or accounts and mailboxes. At the top right is an 
"Edit" button. Activate it and then explore the screen. Here you can now 
turn off, for example, the "All Inboxes" mailbox which I believe is on by 
default and you can turn on mailboxes like "Unread", "All Trash", "All 
Drafts" etc. If you select to display the "unread" mailbox, then you can 
double tap on it to display only unread messages in any of the accounts you 
have set up.
Note that you can also reorder in which order your mailboxes and accounts 
are displayed, e.g. you can put "Unread" at the top or put "VIP" at the top 
etc. To do this, find the "Reorder" button to the right of each mailbox, 
double tap and hold on it and then drag your finger up or down on the 
screen.



Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:48 PM
To: VI Phone Users 
Subject: HOW TO SEARCH FOR UNREAD MESSAGES IN MAIL BOXES

hi all,

I saw a recent tip on how to find the unmarked messages in mailboxes other 
than the inbox, but now I can't find it. At the time of reading it, I didn't 
really understand it either! I know it involved changing the view of the 
mailbox. However, I can't even find how to view the mailbox, so can't go any 
further!


If anyone has a clue on this, please let me know!

Thanks!



Carol P
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Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad

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What about having a separate POP account to receive your messages from 
school, then you can do what you will with them?


Carol P

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From: "Rajmund" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad


Hello,
Yes, I use the braille sense and braillenote for email. And will continue to 
do so. As long as gmail supports POP, I'll  be using it. And I'll be using 
the Apex for school, because of the keyboard. So this means, if I do some 
research, and want to email it from the IPad, I won't be able to, because 
the whole thing will screw up. I might as well just leave it alone. And I 
could already use IMAP, the sense has it, but I just hate it.


- Original Message -
From: joseph hudson  
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  
Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:12 pm
Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad




Hello, well what do you want to or not, any email client did you come 
across is going to run your emails through IMAP from here on out. And I 
hate to be the bearer of bad news but that's how it is. Oh I guess she 
won't be getting mail on your iPad you'll be staying stuck with your 
outdated software. All because you don't want accept change. I mean come 
on let's be honest, how much school work do you think you're going to 
still do on the apex for the braille since U2? That's can require you to 
email?

> On Oct 3, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Well, I'm sure I could get used to them. Any accessible clients that 
> support POP? If necessary, I won't set it up on the IPad, but I'm not 
> going down the IMAP path.

>
> - Original Message -
> From: joseph hudson  
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  
> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:00 pm
> Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad
>
>>
>>
>> Well I hope to be bluntly honest with you, but more and more email 
>> providers, are going strictly IMAP. And the most successful client that 
>> I found so far especially for a new user, would be the native mail app 
>> on the iPad.

>>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> LOL, I just thought about that. In theory, POP is more secure, because 
>>> once its downloaded, that's it, its gone. whereas with IMAP, you can 
>>> go as far as 4 months. And at least to me, IMAP has no advantages, and 
>>> its nothing but  trouble. I have a braillenote, that supports nothing 
>>> but POP. And I have a braille sense, with horrible IMAP support. So 
>>> why should I change  to IMAP? Its a 66% against 33%, so I'm sticking 
>>> with POP. My original question of which client would be nice to use 
>>> still applies, though.

>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 8:29 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad
>>>


 I'm curious, how is POP3 less secure? IMAP has plenty of advantages 
 over
 POP3, but I've never heard security is one of them. In fact, some 
 people
 are concerned about the security of IMAP since your email messages 
 are

 stored on a server and not your own device.

 On 10/03/2015 02:16 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> Yes, you can only use map now. Besides, pop3 is less secure.
>
>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Rajmund > > wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Can I chime in, please? Where's POP3? Within IOS8.3, I could get to 
>> it

>> from other. Now, however, I can only see the incoming server's
>> heading. Did Apple :( :( :( remove POP? And yeppers, using an IPad.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mary Otten  mailto:motte...@gmail.com>>
>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 7:10 pm
>> Subject: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have had an iPad first generation and then an iPad mini two for
>>> sometime now. I don't like the mail on this device, because 
>>> whenever

>>> I open the mail app, it automatically opens into a mail message
>>> rather than into my mailbox list of messages. I have looked 
>>> through
>>> settings, and I don't see a way to change this. Even if I close 
>>> the
>>> mail app with the messages list in view, the next time I open it, 
>>> it
>>> opens with A message opened. Is there a way that I have been 
>>> missing
>>> all these years to force this app open with the messages list in 
>>> view

>>> rather than having an individual message open? It seems like there
>>> should be.
>>> Mary
>>>
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Re: Downloading From Youtube, Preferably In mp3?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi Candy,

I remember meeting you ...  

OK, I fancy trying this converter app, but where does it store the music?

Carol P

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 6:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Downloading From Youtube, Preferably In mp3?


  This is the link to the converter app in the app store.  
  iConverter Pro - Convert Video to Audio by Yul Fyuse Nishi Duolingo Ikea
  https://appsto.re/us/2D407.i

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Oct 3, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


Can you please give more info about the converter app. I couldn’t find it 
in the iTunes store. Mostly just apps about unit conversion. Thanks, Keith



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of candyrl...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading From Youtube, Preferably In mp3?



I use the converter app.  It works like a charm.  It does not format in 
mp3, but formats in M4A.  Basically, that is the successor to mp3.  If you 
download the app, and need some help, contact me offlist.



Candy  

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 3, 2015, at 12:17 AM, Fazil  wrote:

  Hi, list.

  I have Iphone6Plus with IOs9.02.

  Can I download from Youtube, preferably just audio in mp3 format?

  If yes, any app-suggestions?

  Thanks!



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ARE YOU THE USER HAVING A PROBLEM WITH SPEAKER AND HEADPHONES?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi,

If you're the user who lost his music when removing the headphones and couldn't 
get it back without a reboot, or something like that ...

First, I apologise that I'm not responding to the thread, but I've already 
trashed it ... and I can't even remember who wrote ... hence this message.

I did an interesting thing this afternoon.  I was playing a track and removed 
my headphones.  The sound cut out. Although I did go through the reboot saga 
the first time around, I decided to try again and found something interesting 
...

I got a clue from the Control Centre where the particular app I was using was 
showing.  I double clicked it, went to the file, selected the file again, then 
played successfully.

It had become obvious to me that the file I was playing was no longer showing 
... so when I pressed "Play" it didn't happen ...

I wonder, therefore, if you may adopt a similar procedure if you pull 
headphones out again and, this time, ensure the file is showing again.  Let me 
know if this works for you.

Alternatively, I have decided to live with the inconvenience and actually stop 
the player before taking headphones out, then starting it again once the 
headphones are out, to see if that's an easier way around.

If you respond to me with your thoughts and findings - or others respond as 
they're also having similar issues - I'll tell you the outcome of my next 
findings.

Carol P


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HELP NEEDED, PLEASE!

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

I finally took the plunge and agreed an update to iOS 8.4, since I'd received 
notification that it was in fact downloaded.

The process has been in operation for about an hour now and still I hear no 
indication that it's finished!  Is this not long enough to wait?  I do have 
quite a lot of apps to download once the process has completed and should this 
be necessary, so it could just be that this is the problem.

Any suggestions how much longer I should give it and if there's anything at all 
I can do in the event of my first failure update?

Carol P

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Re: HELP NEEDED, PLEASE!

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I was also using a 4S.

I didn't rush it but did notice something very interesting.

This also happened to me on one other similar occasion, when I think the 
download had already downloaded, so I started from that point of wanting to 
install.

We remembered what had previously happened, that I had received a phonecall 
which had come through, apparently activating the system at the same time.  
Until that point, on both occasions we did not hear anything from Voice-Over, 
nor were we aware of any reboot.

I don't think this was a coincidence though because the first thing I heard on 
both occasions was the ringing of my phone.

I have notified Apple Accessibility of my experiences.

Thanks for your comments.

It's all now happily working once again!

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cris Ali 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:50 PM
  Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED, PLEASE!


  My upgrade took over an hour. I thought may be it is because I am using the 
4S and because the processor is too slow. Just wait a little longer, do not 
rush it.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:11 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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Hi all,

I finally took the plunge and agreed an update to iOS 8.4, since I'd 
received notification that it was in fact downloaded.

The process has been in operation for about an hour now and still I hear no 
indication that it's finished!  Is this not long enough to wait?  I do have 
quite a lot of apps to download once the process has completed and should this 
be necessary, so it could just be that this is the problem.

Any suggestions how much longer I should give it and if there's anything at 
all I can do in the event of my first failure update?

Carol P


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Re: iOS9 Beta

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

This got me interested ...

Can you say a little more about how you installed a previous backup and the 
problems encountered as a result.


Just interested, and hope it will help me in understanding the process ...

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: iOS9 Beta


Hi Jenny,

You would have to go on a site like http://ipswdownloader.com and download 
the full iOS firmware for your specific device. I haven't checked if 8.4 is 
up there yet, but I assume by now it would be. Then you have to connect your 
phone to iTunes, put it in recovery mode, press shift+restore and select the 
downloaded .IPSW file. If you use Windows, the file most likely will 
download as a file with a .zip extension, you have to enable showing file 
extension and rename it with .ipsw. Hopefully this will downgrade you and if 
you have archived an 8.4 backup you can restore from it. All of this is 
explained at beta.apple.com along with the appropriate warnings for using 
beta software. I had a pretty hard time downgrading and since my backup was 
from 8.3 and I went straight to 8.4 right after its public release, I 
couldn't restore my backup and had to start from scratch, set up as a new 
phone, setup all my email accounts again, reinstall apps and all that fun 
stuff. It took me hours and I learned a pretty good lesson regarding 
archiving backups from various versions, not to try and restore a backup 
from a previous version to a newer version and in general about the risks 
involved with using early-stage beta software. I ran iOS 8 from Beta 1 last 
year, but while I had all the usual bugs I think all in all my 5S was 
actually more stabil than it was with iOS 9 Beta 1 and 2.


I may try iOS 9 agan before the public release in mid September, but 
probably I'll let another 2 or 3 betas go by and look into it again in early 
or mid August.



Good luck,
Sieghard

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Subject: iOS9 Beta

How do I downgrade to 8.4?

Thank you so much!

Jenn

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Re: Apple unveils all-new iPod touch with 64-bit Apple A8 chip, M8 motion coprocessor, 8MP camera, and Apple Music – MacDailyNews - Welcome Home

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

So, doesn't matter about the external speaker being of a lesser quality?

Carol P

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  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple unveils all-new iPod touch with 64-bit Apple A8 chip, M8 
motion coprocessor, 8MP camera, and Apple Music – MacDailyNews - Welcome Home


  Yes, the sound quality will be determined by the headphones used.
  Richard





  On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:38 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Will the sound be determined though by the headphones being used, in which 
case, could be better than the 6 phone?  It's a question here, raher than a 
statement, since I don't know, but am interested.

Carol P

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  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:02 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple unveils all-new iPod touch with 64-bit Apple A8 chip, 
M8 motion coprocessor, 8MP camera, and Apple Music – MacDailyNews - Welcome Home


  According to Apple's website, the iPod touch newest model is supposed to 
have up to 40 hours of music listening for one charge, and eight hours of video 
playback for one charge. That seems pretty reasonable to me. So if size is a 
big deal for you and you don't care about the sound, this could be good. The 
chip is actually better than the one in the mini two, Since it is the same one 
that is in the current iPhone six and 6+.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 17, 2015, at 6:35 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:


This is why I’m thinking about upgrading my first generation ipad mini 
to the ipad mini 2.

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple unveils all-new iPod touch with 64-bit Apple A8 
chip, M8 motion coprocessor, 8MP camera, and Apple Music – MacDailyNews - 
Welcome Home

Both of those changes you would have liked would definitely make the 
touch more attractive. But, since it is the same case, maybe they couldn't put 
a bigger battery. Don't know about the speaker. But the speaker has always been 
a real downside to the touch in my opinion. I don't expect high fidelity, but 
something with a little bit more body to it would be nice.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2015, at 6:30 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:


  From what I gather, this all-new iPod touch Still uses the same 
battery as the 5th generation I pod touch.  It still uses the same speaker as 
the 5th generation ipod touch.  I was hoping Apple would have used a larger 
battery and the same speaker as used in the Iphone.

  From: christopher hallsworth 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:48 AM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Apple unveils all-new iPod touch with 64-bit Apple A8 chip, 
M8 motion coprocessor, 8MP camera, and Apple Music – MacDailyNews - Welcome Home



http://macdailynews.com/2015/07/15/apple-unveils-all-new-ipod-touch-with-64-bit-apple-a8-chip-m8-motion-coprocessor-8mp-camera-and-apple-music/


Apple unveils all-new iPod touch with 64-bit Apple A8 chip, M8 
motion coprocessor, 8MP camera, and Apple Music
Apple today introduced and all-new iPod touch and unveiled a new 
lineup of colors for all iPod models, including space gray, silver, gold, pink 
and blue. 
The ultra-portable iPod touch features a new 8 megapixel iSight 
camera, an improved FaceTime HD camera, the Apple-designed A8 chip with 10 
times faster graphics performance for a more immersive gaming experience, and 
even better fitness tracking with the M8 motion coprocessor. With the newly 
launched Apple Music service, members can enjoy playlists curated by the most 
talented music experts from around the world, stay in-the-know on music culture 
with a global 24/7 broadcast on Beats 1 radio, and comment on or like backstage 
photos and videos shared directly by their favorite artists on Connect.

“iPod touch gives customers around the world access to Apple Music, 
the App Store and iOS, the world’s most advanced mobile operating system, 
starting at just $199,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s vice president of iPhone, 
iPod and iOS Product Marketing, in a statement. “With big advancements like the 
A8 chip and the 8 megapixel iSight camera, customers can experience next-level 
gameplay, take even more beautiful photos and enjoy their favorite music, TV 
shows and movies.”

<150715_ipod_touch.jpg> 
Apple’s all-new iPod touch with 64-bit Apple A8 chip, M8 motion 
coprocessor, 8MP camera, and Apple Music


With the A8 chip, the same used in the revolutionary iPhone 6 and 
flagship iPhone 6 Plus, users can play even more immersive games for hours at a 
time, all the while with great battery life. iPod touch has become one of the 
world’s most loved mobile gaming experiences — its 

A DIFFERENT MESSAGE - IS IT REAL OR SUS

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi,

I just wondered if I should follow up this email message which says:

"Your ICloud for Windows is Waiting ..."

Is this how Apple is working, by sending out emails on that subject?

Carol P

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SIRI HAS JUST IMPRESSED ME ...

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to tell you that Siri seriously impressed me today for the first 
time in a while.  I really stopped using him/her because things didn't seem to 
work well.  However, today I needed to remove a recurring event from my 
calendar (Fantastical) and didn't quite see how to do it!  IN the end, I asked 
Siri in the best way I knew how (can't remember exactly the wording I used) 
and, Siri did it!  I then said, "Thanks, Siri.  You did well," and I got a 
human-type response to that also!  

I do hope that Siri becomes easier to use and that we can express things in 
more ways, rather than having to learn so many of the ways to ask Siri to do 
something.

Carol P

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Re: An interesting delimma with my phone

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

My 4S upgraded fine, but I do have plenty of space on the 64G model.

Yes, it's a little slow now and occasionally crashes out where it didn't 
used to.


If you can get a new phone and want to, go ahead, I say.  However, note that 
the footprint of the iOS9 is supposed to be much smaller (take up less 
memory) and it may be that it will work better on the 4S.  I'm not rushing 
to get another tikll I see what happens with iOS9 and also the introduction 
of (hopefully) new gear in September/October.


Hope this might help.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Patti Johnson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:28 PM
Subject: An interesting delimma with my phone


I was wondering if anybody had this problem, I think I know what may be
going on but not sure.
I have a 4s, and when I open an app, the majority of the time it will
close on me.  No matter what app it is.
I am connected to wifi, and nothing else is going on with that end of
things, such as tv, internet, etc; I have a braille display hooked up to
the phone so bluetooth is activated.
I am just wondering if first of all my phone is beginning not to support
anything because it is a 4s; (it will not allow me to upgrade to the
8.4); also wonder if I need to remove some apps, would that solve the
problem.
This does not happen with my ipad, by the way.
And the phone is charged.
So, do you all a gree with me that it may be time to get a new phone, I
can't say I want to, I don't like the changing things over process,
getting ringtones back on it, etc; but I am just thinking the phone has
seen its better days.  And the funny thing is I don't use it that much,
not like a lot of people do.

Patti

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Re: an interesting delimma with my phone

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Patti,

You need to go into the app switcher to shut them down.

From the Home screen, tap the Home button twice, and then a three-finger 

swipe up on all the apps should close them.

I certainly have to close some of mine quite often to keep things clear 
enough when using a 4S.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Patti Johnson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:14 PM
Subject: an interesting delimma with my phone


Well I did turn the phone off then on again.
So far it isn't shutting down apps, but I've only tried one.
Maybe that was all that was needed, I hope.
Thanks for everyone's help.  I never turn my phone off, it's lawyas on
charge.
I just don't do it and I don't know why.
I guess I don't like it takes a while to come on again.
No patience, lol.
Patti

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Re: Battery pack - accessibility

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

So does that work consistently for you to know, Rose?

Carol P

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  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:44 PM
  Subject: RE: Battery pack - accessibility


  I have used Light Detector to see how many lights the battery pack has on.  

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
  Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Battery pack - accessiblilty

   

  Not Alan, but i use the first method you mentioned. Unless you have one of 
those talking chargers, I don’t know what else you would do.

   

  Andy

   

  From: R Van Lant 

  Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:31 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: RE: Battery pack - accessiblilty

  So Alan,

  With your battery pack, do you just go by recalling how many times you have 
charged your phone and recharge the pack after that, or do you have another 
method for knowing when to plug your pack back into the AC.  

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
  Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:13 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Battery pack - accessiblilty

   

  I have the Anker Astro E1 5200mAh Ultra and like many of the smaller Anker 
external batteries, this one uses a series of four blue LED lights to indicate 
its charging status. Although this approach is not at all accessible, all you 
have to do is find out the charging time for a full cycle and keep track of how 
long you've had the external battery plugged in. It will charge faster when 
connected to an adapter plugged into a wall outlet as opposed to a computer's 
USB port. The nice thing about these Anker models is that when they are fully 
charged, they will automatically shut down. They also automatically turn on 
when your device is connected to them for charging.

   

  Alan Lemly

   

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
  Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:00 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Battery pack - accessiblilty

   

  The talking battery pack is an option if you don't need too much capacity. It 
wasn't sufficient for me when doing a lot of international travel, so I got a 
2 MHA Anker battery pack. That has an LCD displaying the percentage of 
charge. TapTapSee reads it for me every time.

  Jonathan Mosen

  Mosen Consulting

  Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

  http://Mosen.org

   

On 22/07/2015, at 4:58 pm, R Van Lant  wrote:

 

I'm curious.  How do you all know if your battery pack has enough juice in 
it or is done charging?  I got one on a whim and, while I can just see the 
little lights that indicate the power level in the pack, I'm guessing I'll need 
a different battery pack when I eventually upgrade my phone and wonder how you 
handle this.  It was totally by fluke that mine has really bright little lights 
that I can get into my tunnel vision, but if the lights were red or some other 
kind of indicator, I don't think I could figure it out.



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Re: SIRI HAS JUST IMPRESSED ME ...

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Like it!  Now I can quite easily be awake at 4, so Siri has to be also!  


Carol P

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  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:58 PM
  Subject: RE: SIRI HAS JUST IMPRESSED ME ...


  Honestly, I don’t use Siri a lot but when I have it has been generally good.  
My truly funny experience was that one morning I dictated a message to my late 
husband but I forgot to tell Seri to whom to send the “Are you awake, if not 
why not!”  She came back with “Don’t wake me up! It is 4 in the morning and I 
do not want to wake up.  

   

  I did it on April first 2012 and every year on April first if I set an alarm 
for 4 in the morning, as I did when working she would say “your alarm is set 
but don’t wake me up!  

   

  BTW, my late husband was in the hospital which was why I was trying to wake 
him up so I could tell him something I had read after I had talked to him the 
evening before.  

   

  My other strange experience was asking Siri for directions to 56th Street and 
Washington in Phoenix, Arizona.  She gave me directions to Washington State 
instead, it was 400 miles away!  My cousin and I had to laugh.  By the way, her 
android phone did exactly the same thing!  

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 2:55 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: SIRI HAS JUST IMPRESSED ME ...

   

  Hey everyone,

   

  Just wanted to tell you that Siri seriously impressed me today for the first 
time in a while.  I really stopped using him/her because things didn't seem to 
work well.  However, today I needed to remove a recurring event from my 
calendar (Fantastical) and didn't quite see how to do it!  IN the end, I asked 
Siri in the best way I knew how (can't remember exactly the wording I used) 
and, Siri did it!  I then said, "Thanks, Siri.  You did well," and I got a 
human-type response to that also!  

   

  I do hope that Siri becomes easier to use and that we can express things in 
more ways, rather than having to learn so many of the ways to ask Siri to do 
something.

   

  Carol P

   

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Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with alerts?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Yes, Fantastical is my choice now, thanks to Richard.  I still couldn't find 
a way to end a non-ending event yesterday, without getting Siri to do it. 
How is that done, Richard?


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:38 AM
Subject: RE: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



Wow! That's fantastic. Many thanks. Keith


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?


Keith,
I just opened Fantastical 2 double tapped on new event.
Did the two finger double tap and dictated the following:
"Dr. Test july 27 at 9 AM alert 30 minutes"
Then I double tapped on the add button.
The event was correctly created with an alert of 30 minutes before.
HTH
Richard




On Jul 23, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


Hi,

I can set Calendar events with alerts manually. It's a little cumbersome, 
but certainly do-able.


I can set Calendar events without alerts using Siri, and then go in and 
add alerts manually, but that, too, is a little cumbersome.


I haven't figured out if there is a way to add Calendar events with alerts 
using Siri, or some other means that is less cumbersome than the manual 
methods above.


Is there any way to do this and save a few steps. I make a fair number of 
Calendar events and benefit a lot from the alerts, so a little bit of 
extra efficiency would be welcome.


Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with alerts?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

No, this was non-ending, because I had no idea when it would end!

Can't look back on the settings now as it's gone completely.

Carol P

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From: "Chris Chaffin" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



I am assuming that by non ending, you are referring to repeating events, 
then by ending one, you mean to end a repeating event.
Here is what I typed into Fantastical to make an event that repeats every 
Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, then it stops repeating on August 19th, 
plus sets an alert of 30 minutes before the event.


morning meeting on July 25 at 10:30 AM repeating every Tuesday, Wednesday, 
and Thursday repeating end August 19 alert 30 minutes


Hope this helps.

Chris


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On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:09 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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Yes, Fantastical is my choice now, thanks to Richard.  I still couldn't 
find a way to end a non-ending event yesterday, without getting Siri to do 
it. How is that done, Richard?


Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 


To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:38 AM
Subject: RE: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



Wow! That's fantastic. Many thanks. Keith


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?


Keith,
I just opened Fantastical 2 double tapped on new event.
Did the two finger double tap and dictated the following:
"Dr. Test july 27 at 9 AM alert 30 minutes"
Then I double tapped on the add button.
The event was correctly created with an alert of 30 minutes before.
HTH
Richard




On Jul 23, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


Hi,

I can set Calendar events with alerts manually. It's a little cumbersome, 
but certainly do-able.


I can set Calendar events without alerts using Siri, and then go in and 
add alerts manually, but that, too, is a little cumbersome.


I haven't figured out if there is a way to add Calendar events with 
alerts using Siri, or some other means that is less cumbersome than the 
manual methods above.


Is there any way to do this and save a few steps. I make a fair number of 
Calendar events and benefit a lot from the alerts, so a little bit of 
extra efficiency would be welcome.


Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with alerts?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Well, I just couldn't find a way to delete that particular entry and, as I 
said at the beginning of the thread, Siri had to do it for me.


Suppose that's good enough, but I'd still like to know how to delete 
entries, whatever their make-up.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Chaffin" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



The only two settings as far as ending time I have ever seen is an actual 
time, which by default is one hour after the start time.
The other setting I have seen is no actual time, but ends on the same day as 
it starts.  This is the setting if the all day setting is turned on.
In Fantastical, if no time is given, then the all day setting is 
automatically turned on.


In Fantastical, after typing in your event, if you just swipe right, you 
will come to a details button.  Double tap the details button and all of the 
event will appear so you can edit any of it that you choose.
The all day selection is a toggle button, so just double tap to turn off or 
on.
You can change the start or end times by just double tapping on them, then 
swipe right to the pickers and flick up and down to change each item.


Hope this helps.

Chris


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:54 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


No, this was non-ending, because I had no idea when it would end!

Can't look back on the settings now as it's gone completely.

Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Chris Chaffin" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



I am assuming that by non ending, you are referring to repeating events, 
then by ending one, you mean to end a repeating event.
Here is what I typed into Fantastical to make an event that repeats every 
Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, then it stops repeating on August 19th, 
plus sets an alert of 30 minutes before the event.


morning meeting on July 25 at 10:30 AM repeating every Tuesday, Wednesday, 
and Thursday repeating end August 19 alert 30 minutes


Hope this helps.

Chris


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:09 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Yes, Fantastical is my choice now, thanks to Richard.  I still couldn't 
find a way to end a non-ending event yesterday, without getting Siri to 
do it. How is that done, Richard?


Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 


To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:38 AM
Subject: RE: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



Wow! That's fantastic. Many thanks. Keith


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?


Keith,
I just opened Fantastical 2 double tapped on new event.
Did the two finger double tap and dictated the following:
"Dr. Test july 27 at 9 AM alert 30 minutes"
Then I double tapped on the add button.
The event was correctly created with an alert of 30 minutes before.
HTH
Richard




On Jul 23, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


Hi,

I can set Calendar events with alerts manually. It's a little 
cumbersome, but certainly do-able.


I can set Calendar events without alerts using Siri, and then go in and 
add alerts manually, but that, too, is a little cumbersome.


I haven't figured out if there is a way to add Calendar events with 
alerts using Siri, or some other means that is less cumbersome than the 
manual methods above.


Is there any way to do this and save a few steps. I make a fair number 
of Calendar events and benefit a lot from the alerts, so a little bit of 
extra efficiency would be welcome.


Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with alerts?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Richard, thanks.

Why I didn't get there, I don't quite know but this is appreciated.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



If you are using Fantastical, when you double tap on the day you have an 
appointment, and find it in the reminder list on the lower half of the 
screen, just touch it once so focus is on it, but don't open it and flick up 
with one finger and you should hear, "delete" double tap and it is gone.

It is just like deleting emails.
Or, open the appointment, double tap on the edit button, then the last item 
after you scroll through the screen will be a delete event button.

HTH,
Richard




On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:03 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Well, I just couldn't find a way to delete that particular entry and, as I 
said at the beginning of the thread, Siri had to do it for me.


Suppose that's good enough, but I'd still like to know how to delete 
entries, whatever their make-up.


Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Chris Chaffin" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



The only two settings as far as ending time I have ever seen is an actual 
time, which by default is one hour after the start time.
The other setting I have seen is no actual time, but ends on the same day 
as it starts.  This is the setting if the all day setting is turned on.
In Fantastical, if no time is given, then the all day setting is 
automatically turned on.


In Fantastical, after typing in your event, if you just swipe right, you 
will come to a details button.  Double tap the details button and all of 
the event will appear so you can edit any of it that you choose.
The all day selection is a toggle button, so just double tap to turn off 
or on.
You can change the start or end times by just double tapping on them, then 
swipe right to the pickers and flick up and down to change each item.


Hope this helps.

Chris


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:54 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via 
VIPhone  wrote:


No, this was non-ending, because I had no idea when it would end!

Can't look back on the settings now as it's gone completely.

Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Chris Chaffin" 


To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



I am assuming that by non ending, you are referring to repeating events, 
then by ending one, you mean to end a repeating event.
Here is what I typed into Fantastical to make an event that repeats every 
Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, then it stops repeating on August 19th, 
plus sets an alert of 30 minutes before the event.


morning meeting on July 25 at 10:30 AM repeating every Tuesday, 
Wednesday, and Thursday repeating end August 19 alert 30 minutes


Hope this helps.

Chris


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:09 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via 
VIPhone  wrote:


Yes, Fantastical is my choice now, thanks to Richard.  I still couldn't 
find a way to end a non-ending event yesterday, without getting Siri to 
do it. How is that done, Richard?


Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 


To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:38 AM
Subject: RE: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?



Wow! That's fantastic. Many thanks. Keith


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's the most efficient way to set a calendar event with 
alerts?


Keith,
I just opened Fantastical 2 double tapped on new event.
Did the two finger double tap and dictated the following:
"Dr. Test july 27 at 9 AM alert 30 minutes"
Then I double tapped on the add button.
The event was correctly created with an alert of 30 minutes before.
HTH
Richard




On Jul 23, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


Hi,

I can set Calendar events with alerts manually. It's a little 
cumbersome, but certainly do-able.


I can set Calendar events without alerts using Siri, and then go in and 
add alerts manually, but that, too, is a little cumbersome.


I haven't figured out if there is a way to add Calendar events with 
alerts using Siri, or some other means that is less cumbersome than the 
manual methods above.


Is there any way to do this and save a few steps. I make a fair number 
of Calendar events and benefit a lot from the alerts, so a little bit 
of extra efficiency would be welcome.


Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: SIRI definitely requires improvements

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Yes, unless Siri has a much easier approach and at least can come back with "Do 
you want ..." so you can answer with a one word, it's still not measuring up.  
It's just the occasional surprise for which I am thankful!

We should all start saying things to Apple about this ...

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 4:45 PM
  Subject: SIRI definitely requires improvements


  Hi everybody,

   

  This goes back to the thread about SIRI and the question Neil asked about the 
latitude of Maddison, Wisconsin.

  I just tried this and asked SIRI “What is the latitude of Maddison, 
Wisconsin”. Just as Neil reported, SIRI came back “I don’t understand what is 
the latitude of Wisconsin”.

  I then asked “What latitude is Vancouver, British Columbia”. Notice the 
slight difference in wording “What is the latitude of…” and “What latitude is…”.

  Anyhow, SIRI came back with the answer promptly and when I asked in the same 
way “What latitude is Maddison, Wisconsin” SIRI also answered right away.

  Then I asked using the original wording which didn’t work “What is the 
latitude of Vancouver, British Columbia”. 

  SIRI answered “The only possibility I found is Latitude Restaurant, is that 
the one you are looking for?” Then SIRI beeped waiting for me to say “Yes” or 
“No:” as if I had asked it to look for restaurants with that name.

   

  I use SIRI a lot and often like how well it works especially for dictation. 
However, sometimes it’s ridiculous how it gets simple things wrong or can’t 
deliver an answer which Google Voice Search has no problems with. I also still 
find more complex dictation is difficult and I can’t believe there still is no 
way to just spell out a word I know SIRI will get wrong.

  I really hope Apple puts some major effort into making SIRI better. They 
introduced this idea of a personal assistant, but considering SIRI has been 
around for almost 4 years it has gone through amazingly few real upgrades and 
it can’t even tell you the battery status on your phone and I still can’t 
easily set a 2-part reminder like this:

   

  Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM

  SIRI will say “Tell me what you want to be reminded about”, I say:

  Dentist appointment at 11 AM.

   

  This used to be possible and to me it sounds natural, but if I say it this 
way SIRI sets a reminder “Dentist appointment” for August 6 at 11 AM, it 
completely ignores that I said “Dentist appointment at 10 AM” and just 
interprets it the way it wants. If, however, I say this:

   

  “Set a reminder on August 6 at 10 AM about my dentist appointment at 11 AM” 
it creates it correctly, the reminder time is set to August 6 at 10 AM and the 
reminder text says “My dentist appointment at 11 AM”. Apple made such a big 
deal of how you can talk naturally to SIRI, but while you can set an alarm by 
saying many different things, a lot of other commands have to be delivered just 
so or SIRI will get it wrong. Steve Jobbs old adage “It just works” definitely 
does not apply here.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   


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Re: IOS 8.4 on 5th gen ipod touch

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Press the Home button.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Donald L. Roberts 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 8:18 PM
  Subject: IOS 8.4 on 5th gen ipod touch


  I just got around to updating my fifth generation ipod touch to IOS 8.4.  And 
now I have a major problem.

  The most significant problem I have found thus far is that I am no longer 
able to move between pages by swiping up and down on the iPod screen.  Nor can 
I do so using the Amazon Basics blue tooth keyboard.  When updating an app, I 
noted that I was not able to double tap the update button.  I ultimately got 
around this by rebooting.  However, my inability to switch between my four 
pages of apps is unchanged.  What is interesting is that when on page one, if I 
double tapped the page number rather than swiped, it would ascend to the next 
page.  However, when I got to the last page which is page four on this iPod, it 
stuck at page 4.  I could however get back to page one by using Siri to open an 
app such as messages on page 1.  Also, rebooting took me back to page 1.  

  I am truly at a loss as to what to do now because this problem renders the 
device virtually useless.  Ideas please!

  Thanks.

  Don Roberts


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KNFB READER

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Hi all,

A little while back I updated my KNFB Reader software which, originally, did 
work quite well on the 4S.  Today I go to use it and find it's not working.

Can anyone confirm whether they have found the latest version not to work with 
a 4S, please?

Of course, I can't roll back as I didn't backup in the first place!  

Carol P

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Re: KNFB READER

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No, not testing but getting nowhere with my 4S.

Thanks anyway.

Anyone else out there can confirm or deny about the running of KNFB Reader on a 
4S right now?

Thanks.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 7:20 PM
  Subject: Re: KNFB READER


  The latest version is running well on my iPhone 5. You aren't testing iOS9, 
by any chance? There are no promises  if you're running a beta.

On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:22 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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Hi all,

A little while back I updated my KNFB Reader software which, originally, 
did work quite well on the 4S.  Today I go to use it and find it's not working.

Can anyone confirm whether they have found the latest version not to work 
with a 4S, please?

Of course, I can't roll back as I didn't backup in the first place!  


Carol P



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Re: KNFB READER

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Thanks for that.  It does tell me that I'm not alone and, since I can't now 
down grade, I'll just have to try any upgrade, or wait till I get another phone.

Thanks.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Matthew Dyer 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:07 PM
  Subject: Re: KNFB READER


  Hi,
  I have an iPhone 5s  and find that I am get no results if that tells you 
anything.
  Matthew



  Sent from my iPhone.
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ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com



  On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:22 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hi all,

A little while back I updated my KNFB Reader software which, originally, 
did work quite well on the 4S.  Today I go to use it and find it's not working.

Can anyone confirm whether they have found the latest version not to work 
with a 4S, please?

Of course, I can't roll back as I didn't backup in the first place!  


Carol P


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Re: KNFB READER

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I've certainly rebooted the phone but haven't yet tried re-installing the app.  
Thanks for the reminder.  I'll do that.

Carol P

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  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 2:05 PM
  Subject: RE: KNFB READER


  I have an iPhone 5S and the latest version of KNFB Reader is working just 
fine on iOS 8.4.

   

  Have you rebooted the phone or even tried deleting and reinstalling the app?

   

  Richard

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: KNFB READER

   

  Thanks for that.  It does tell me that I'm not alone and, since I can't now 
down grade, I'll just have to try any upgrade, or wait till I get another phone.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Matthew Dyer 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:07 PM

Subject: Re: KNFB READER

 

Hi,

I have an iPhone 5s  and find that I am get no results if that tells you 
anything.

Matthew

 

Sent from my iPhone. 

Skype: graduater2004. Email and face time/iMessage: 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com

 


On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:22 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

  Hi all,

   

  A little while back I updated my KNFB Reader software which, originally, 
did work quite well on the 4S.  Today I go to use it and find it's not working.

   

  Can anyone confirm whether they have found the latest version not to work 
with a 4S, please?

   

  Of course, I can't roll back as I didn't backup in the first place!  


   

  Carol P

   

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Re: KNFB READER

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OK, I will.

Will come back having done both.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:16 PM
  Subject: RE: KNFB READER


  Carol,

   

  Before you delete and redownload the app, make sure you check that you didn’t 
accidently put it in batch mode in which case you would take a picture, but the 
app wouldn’t recognize the image right away because it’s waiting for you to 
take a bunch of images and then do all the processing later.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:14 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: KNFB READER

   

  I've certainly rebooted the phone but haven't yet tried re-installing the 
app.  Thanks for the reminder.  I'll do that.

   

  Carol P

   

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From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 2:05 PM

Subject: RE: KNFB READER

 

I have an iPhone 5S and the latest version of KNFB Reader is working just 
fine on iOS 8.4.

 

Have you rebooted the phone or even tried deleting and reinstalling the app?

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB READER

 

Thanks for that.  It does tell me that I'm not alone and, since I can't now 
down grade, I'll just have to try any upgrade, or wait till I get another phone.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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  From: Matthew Dyer 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:07 PM

  Subject: Re: KNFB READER

   

  Hi,

  I have an iPhone 5s  and find that I am get no results if that tells you 
anything.

  Matthew

   

  Sent from my iPhone. 

  Skype: graduater2004. Email and face time/iMessage: 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com

   


  On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:22 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via 
VIPhone  wrote:

Hi all,

 

A little while back I updated my KNFB Reader software which, 
originally, did work quite well on the 4S.  Today I go to use it and find it's 
not working.

 

Can anyone confirm whether they have found the latest version not to 
work with a 4S, please?

 

Of course, I can't roll back as I didn't backup in the first place!  


 

Carol P

 

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