ubject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Singularity is an integrator. Sort of like how Ipifony operates for phones.
They'll set you up with content providers, head end equipment, and so on. You'd
end up paying bills to several people. Singularity provides a software system
that
ase to ensure a
return.
-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/15/2018 5:53:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
How did that go?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https
iadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
We are doing Viva and WISPs will be able to sign up on it Monday with
commissions.
Rory
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af
n Behalf Of Clint Wiley
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:39 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, are
> any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV
How has Viva panned out?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Rory Conaway"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. Rea
How did that go?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Adam Moffett"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:39:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice T
Sometimes that's easier said than done.
-- Original Message --
From: "Adair Winter"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/25/2018 2:24:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Matt,
It's not rocket science, move in to a real data center that has decent
connectivity
VPN?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the chance is low.
>>>>>> Then if discovered, what is the chance that the programmers will care?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was working with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing t
server is my business... right?
From: Layne Sisk
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to your
customers and you won’t make anything.
Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801
o me, I take delivery in a data center very
>> close to you.
>>
>> Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business...
>> right?
>>
>> *From:* Layne Sisk
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subje
gt;>>> When I was working with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing to the
>>>> VPN method.
>>>>
>>>> How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very
>>>> close to you.
>>>>
>>>>
From: "Chris Fabien"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 1:23:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Layne can you share a list of connection points to the list? Have you changed
pricing at all since you and I talked last?
Thanks
Chris
On Sun, Feb 2
ad quite a few of them agreeing to the
> VPN method.
>
> How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very
> close to you.
>
> Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right....?
>
> *From:* Layne Sisk
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23
you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very close to
you.
Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right?
From: Layne Sisk
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
When they do you won’t be able
How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very
> close to you.
>
> Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right?
>
> *From:* Layne Sisk
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [A
N method.
>
> How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very
> close to you.
>
> Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right?
>
> *From:* Layne Sisk
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
g with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing to the
>> VPN method.
>>
>> How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very close
>> to you.
>>
>> Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right....?
>>
y 23, 2018 10:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to your
customers and you won’t make anything.
Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102
<http://www.serverplus.com/>
[http://i.
mug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:27 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> Layne, what is the real world chance of anyone discovering that you are
> transporting to one of use via VPN?
>
Matt just emailed me and said that the way Viva was set up was fine.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Layne, what is the real world chance of anyone
ort to the edge server is my business... right?
*From:* Layne Sisk
*Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to
your customers and you won’t make anythin
.
How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very close to
you.
Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right?
From: Layne Sisk
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
When
t: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
I’m pretty sure bringing US content that was destined for the Philippines back
into the US is not legal.
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 23:12, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> We are doing Viva and WISPs will be able to sign up on it Monday with
> commi
--- Original Message --
From: "Clint Wiley"
mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/23/2018 7:01:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
That’s actually a good poin
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. Rea
We are a partner in Real Choice.
Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
When
inal Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Clint Wiley
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:39 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers.
We are doing Viva and WISPs will be able to sign up on it Monday with
commissions.
Rory
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Clint Wiley
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Hi,
I wanted
t; -- Original Message --
> From: "Clint Wiley"
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Sent: 2/23/2018 7:01:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want
> to choose the wrong t
fmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/23/2018 7:01:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want to
choose the wrong technology/solution.
Thanks,
_
Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fibe
2018 8:03:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Honestly I have to admit that it was quite clever on Dish Network's part. They
made sure everyone actually wanted the second price tier because there's one
critical channel for everybody that isn't in the bottom t
effect of licensing
or some such, but I'm equally willing to assume it's a result of evil
genius.
-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/23/2018 8:59:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
and there's no way they&#
23, 2018 7:55:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Yup. I remember that from when I had to sell Dish Network. No two people agree
on what the right set of channels are, but they all agree that the channels
they want should be in the cheaper package.
-- Original Message
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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From: "Matt Hoppes"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] R
/2018 8:40:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
"a set of the channels folks want to watch" That's going to be even
harder than a full line-up OTT.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.co
- Original Message -
From: "Clint Wiley"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:01:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want to
choose the wrong techno
f@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:08:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
It’s why I’ve held off for as long as I have. None of the options were right.
They either required expensive private lines, or the costs were so high I ended
up making no profit and I felt lik
I did not realize the association.
-- Original Message --
From: "Matt Hoppes"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/23/2018 8:23:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Yes they do. It’s called real choice.
On Feb 23, 2018, at 20:20, Adam Moffett wrote:
When you say &q
ne Sisk"
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Sent: 2/23/2018 5:31:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
>> There are 2 types of licensing, MVPD and OTT. MVPD is closed network only,
>> and allows all content to be distributed via that closed networ
When you say "We", do you mean that ServerPlus has an IPTV solution?
Is this something you're reselling?
-- Original Message --
From: "Layne Sisk"
To: "af@afmug.com"
Sent: 2/23/2018 5:31:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
There are
gt;>
>>
>>
>> From: "Matt Hoppes"
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>
>> Maybe. Time will tell.
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46
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To: af@afmug.com<
e
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the
public internet, why not RCTV?
Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
>
>
>
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the
> pu
018 4:16:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the
public internet, why not RCTV?
Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this.
-Original Message-
From: Clint Wiley
bruary 23, 2018 3:46:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line
requirement.
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to you
Hoppes
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Also. This makes real Choice an IPTV solution not an OTT solution.
We need a cost effective OTT solution.
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:18, Keefe John wrote:
>
> Unless you're g
Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Well, the are all allowing all the
ubject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
Unless you're getting a short wave most long-distance layer2 connections are
going to be MPLS over layer3 anyways. So how's that different than a VPN or
GRE tunnel?
Keefe
On 2/23/2018 3:56 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> That is not
o allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN
>> (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were OK with it.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
ing to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN
over VPN (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were
OK with it.
-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
RealCh
: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds
an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover.
Thanks,
_
Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fiber Internet
On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "ch...@wbmf
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line
> requirement.
>
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>
: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line
requirement.
On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley wrote:
Hi,
I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so,
are any of you using
RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line
requirement.
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, are
> any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale
I also just found out about another outfit called Singularity TV. I
have a call with them next week.
-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/23/2018 4:36:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
I know the RealChoice guys personally. I trust
vs. RealChoice TV
Hi,
I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so,
are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale
provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. on
either provider?
Thanks
Of the people I've talked to, RealChoice seemed to have their act
together the best. I have not talked to Rodeo at all.
-- Original Message --
From: "Keefe John"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/23/2018 4:01:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
I'd lik
I'd like to see a YoutubeTV reseller program. Has anyone inquired?
Keefe
On 2/23/2018 2:39 PM, Clint Wiley wrote:
Hi,
I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, are
any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale provider? Can
any of you pro
Hi,
I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, are
any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale provider? Can
any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. on either provider?
Thanks,
_
Clint Wiley
Hagerstow
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