Richard M wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
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>> TurquoiseB wrote:
>>
>>> The Rama fellow I studied with for many years taught
>>> Lucid Dreaming. He taught it in the context of Tibetan
>>> Dream Yoga, but the techniques were the same as those
>>> I've later fo
On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Richard M wrote:
Oh yes, that's true of course. But the West has more to offer than
just that I think.
You could say there are three "Western" views (and no doubt more):
Let me share some counterpoint, the mantrayana views of dream and sleep:
Dreams are helpful
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
> > >
> > > I've mentioned one lucid dream I've had several times on
> > > FFL and that was the one with "Jesus" who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
> >
> > I've mentioned one lucid dream I've had several times on
> > FFL and that was the one with "Jesus" who looked more like
> > Naveen Andrews than the way that Christianity po
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>
> TurquoiseB wrote:
> > The Rama fellow I studied with for many years taught
> > Lucid Dreaming. He taught it in the context of Tibetan
> > Dream Yoga, but the techniques were the same as those
> > I've later found in Native American shamanis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote:
> >
> > Thank God for Judy.
>
> Ditto. Thank God for Judy. She can mop the floor with Barry with one
> hand tied behind her back and knock down a bourbon while she's at it.
HeHe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"
> wrote:
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> > Jumping in. I've never had any instruction on how to control lucid
> > dreams, have no intention intention to do so, but find that I can
> if I
> > want to. If luci
Here is an interesting article on lucid dreaming and the blurred lines
between awake and sleep: http://www.lucidity.com/SleepAndCognition.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> I recently posted a rap about Lucid Dreaming. It is
> pasted in at the bottom of this post. What I'm inter-
> ested in is whether anyone on FFL has had experiences
> of this sort, and wants to rap about them. No "experts,"
> no dogma, just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > Consider this an Edg-like rap, in the tradition of
> > determining whether anyone here on FFL is interested
> > in the odd things I am, and wants to "swap stories."
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"
wrote:
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> Jumping in. I've never had any instruction on how to control lucid
> dreams, have no intention intention to do so, but find that I can
if I
> want to. If lucid dreaming spontaneously occurs, it sometimes
happens
> in the dome during
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> Consider this an Edg-like rap, in the tradition of
> determining whether anyone here on FFL is interested
> in the odd things I am, and wants to "swap stories."
> It's also a rap addressing ED's complaint that nobody
> ever talks about th
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:18 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
So we never leave the dream world. We lived a dream world in the TMO and we
left to live in an even dreamier world?
I'm going back to the Self.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote:
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> If you played poker in the astral with your buddies, and they all
> said the next day that they had had the same experience and
> considered it true to say "we were actually in each other's
> presense, actually had really experiences, a
On the long-shot that I was correct about the bust(s), then I could
finally tell my Mom my one year at MIU paid off because it expanding
my 'hunch power'
If I was way off, I fall back on gentle ribbing. Since you caught me
on both accounts, I apologize and won't do it again.
--- In FairfieldLi
No busts over here. Wanna try another guess?
Playboys? Here? As if. Real sex is how I roll.
What I do think you DO know is "why you posted this." And, if you
could expound on that, hey, we'd all be agog if it were done with
clarity.
I'm an easy target here for this kind of teasing, but fa
Hey Edg,
I'll have to check again tonight, but when I floated thru your office
the other night, I thot for sure one of those stautues was a bust.
Speaking of busts, those old Playboys you've got stashed away are a hoot.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote:
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> Turq,
>
> I fin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote:
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> Turq,
>
> I find it strange that you are being somewhat "pro lucid dreaming"
> when I compare that to your POV about oogabooganess in general.
Edg, I have *no problem* with oogabooganess.
I have a problem with *unexamined* oogabooganess
Jumping in. I've never had any instruction on how to control lucid
dreams, have no intention intention to do so, but find that I can if I
want to. If lucid dreaming spontaneously occurs, it sometimes happens
in the dome during rest after program. If I had a particularly
blissful program, during res
Turq,
I find it strange that you are being somewhat "pro lucid dreaming"
when I compare that to your POV about oogabooganess in general.
I've but dabbled with lucid dreaming, so I can't go toe to toe with
you, but I can ask questions of you that should clarify some things
for me if you honestly a
I am far from an "expert" on all this myself, and
thus can't say whether this is a "legitimate"
example of Lucid Dreaming or not. Sounds like it,
if you intentionally changed the direction of the
dream, even if you didn't have the sensation of
"waking up" in the dream.
On the other hand, if I'm
On Jan 28, 2009, at 9:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Not only does it have the advantage of expanding the realm of
possibilities of what the mind can conceive, but also expanding
the possibility of what it can believe.
Exactly. This applies to experience of witnessing
the siddhis being performed as
I don't know if this qualifies as Lucid Dreaming or not - but about
1-2 times per month I will find myself in a frustrating dream. I
attempt to salvage the dream by removing the frustration, but
eventually just decide to end it and wake up.
Example:
Just last night I dreamt I was on a jet flight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> A number of the things I'd previously described simply cannot be
> done (as they were done in the dream) in the waking state, but
> they almost always will have some waking or meditative state
> counterpart that I had to realize or "flash" t
On Jan 28, 2009, at 8:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
But did you ever encounter "teachings" in the dream
plane that just "don't map" to the waking state at
all? I've had that experience many times, and it's
always fascinating.
The teaching itself was always clear as a bell *in*
the dream plane. What
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> In the dream state you're not a hampered by time, you can even
> play dreams in reverse or examine individual dream elements. Once
> one could shatter the constructs of the dreams, you could reduce
> it to a bare presence, even less than a '
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > What I'm inter-
> > ested in is whether anyone on FFL has had experiences
> > of this sort, and wants to rap about them. No "experts,"
> > no dogma, just rappin'...tryi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> What I'm inter-
> ested in is whether anyone on FFL has had experiences
> of this sort, and wants to rap about them. No "experts,"
> no dogma, just rappin'...trying to figure things out.
>
> The Rama fellow I studied with for many years
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