Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am sorry, but the removal of TM from the mysticism and traditions of the past, is a GOOD thing. I agree that having more knowledgeable teachers would be helpful, though to say that the goals of humanity cannot be achieved solely with TM is completely false, an ego trip that has evolved from TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Well Pundit Bill, you're an expert on the Vedas so you should know. You should also then know that TM is just "a meditation for the masses." For that shanti mantras are generally given. And as you know Maharishi originally just gave a shanti mantra. Also in real systems instead of parrots y

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bari2 opines: And TM really is "yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned elsewhere. So exactly what is "that" which is the "Sun" to TM's "mere" shadow?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi, Thanks for sharing your ideas. I am not really a big reader, nor do I have any association with the TM organization, so I am not the one to evaluate your writing further, or make a proposition to the TMers. That said, I wish you all the best with your pursuits. No doubt you have learned a gr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I've been saying this for years here on FFL. In the 1970s, people's lifestyles allowed for nightly meetings and the 7 step teaching method. TM seems to be stuck in the 1970s while other schools of meditation will offer weekend courses much more accessible to people current lifestyles. They a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for your replys, apparantely it's just between you and I. Yes I am just throwing it out for people to chew on; I see more people are referring toTM as a step to enlightenment. It takes time; generations, I believe, for a concept to take hold. Maybe quicker with TM. I do appreciate your al

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People come to TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 'green cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world has some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years TM has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-25 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't going to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even Maharishi focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There is no need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to God, they would stand in line to learn it." This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my point made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.What I said was...People would line up at age

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh yeah, there are lots of meditations - I used TM as an example because it is mentioned in the book that began this discussion. The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to God, they would stand in line to learn it. I am interested in exploring the reasons that ma

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Not all disciplines emphasize practicing meditation twice a day. Some just emphasize using it as needed. It's good to step out of the shadow of TM and it's narrow definitions and find out what other paths do. I know, they may want to throw you out of the dome for that but other gurus will ac

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic "problem" with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be considered a technology, we are used to having our tech delivered with no downside, except cost. TM represents the benefits of tech; acceleration, expansion, ease, et

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
There was a report on FFL about an Indian ayurvedic doctor who visited and offered to teach correct meditation. He maintained that TM was too "shotgun" and there were better ways using ayurveda to teach meditation. I've been saying this for years as the TM technique is pretty much for pitta o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That covers a lot of ground.:-) I agree that TM is a mechanical means to liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work as described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness you mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, transcendental be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S A MESS #1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished writing it, as I witnessed what I wrote. I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it agai

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
HI, thanks for your info. I was curious where your comment came from. I don't live in Fairfield, nor do I shop much in the spiritual supermarket. I am always interested in how any of us puts our found spiritual gifts into practice. If I may take the lazy person's way out, what do you consider th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
thanks for your reply,my comment on one pointedness... I have noticed many people around the world who teach and recommend disciplines of health, including meditation practice: don't actually regularily practice their recommended disciplines in daily living.Many play the part (seminaring themse

[FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi, and Welcome - I read the available excerpts of your book - I am curious about your statement below that you are more one pointed and disciplined than most. In what domain, and what has that done for you lately? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thank you for invitation to F