Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-24 Thread Silverstorm
You are not angry, you are kind of idiot, kid. Its not our fault you dont understand basics ;) people normally have such problems, most of them passes the problem hardworking way, others give up, and some others like you stays in the same place where they've been 10 years ago with a stupid smile

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread aoohralex
My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend deleted my post. My criticism PHP authors and Zend Framework in compare to other frameworks wasn't comfortable for Zend company. You can don't agree with me but delete my subject ? So again: I have started learn ZF because

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Alan Wagstaff
Hi, 2009/9/23 aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend deleted my post. My criticism PHP authors and Zend Framework in compare to other frameworks wasn't comfortable for Zend company. You can don't agree with me but delete my

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Cameron
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Alan Wagstaff awagst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/9/23 aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend deleted my post. My criticism PHP authors and Zend Framework in compare to other frameworks wasn't

RE: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread WebCorp s . r . o . | Jan Juříček
From: Cameron [mailto:themsel...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:08 AM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ? On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Alan Wagstaff awagst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/9/23 aoohralex aoohra

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Carlton Gibson
Aoohralex, I'm sorry but if you think so little of Zend Framework, why on Earth don't you just use all these other frameworks that you think are superior instead? This is a question for you to answer to yourself -- no-one on this list is interested. If you do want to use Zend Framework

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread peas sopheak
*To:* fw-general@lists.zend.com *Subject:* Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ? On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Alan Wagstaff awagst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/9/23 aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Vladas Diržys
Can you tell your name, surname? Would be interesting to know identity of the person, who can be so damn stupid. -- Regards, Vladas Diržys On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:59, aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote: My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend deleted my

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Pádraic Brady
: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ? My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend deleted my post. My criticism PHP authors and Zend Framework in compare to other frameworks wasn't comfortable for Zend company. You can don't agree with me but delete my subject

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Alexander Johannesen
aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote: ZEND, I'M REALLY HAPPY FOR YOU, I'M GONNA LET YOU FINISH, BUT SYMFONY HAS ONE OF THE BEST FRAMEWORKS OF ALL TIME! Alex -- Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps --- http://shelter.nu/blog/

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote (on Wednesday, 23 September 2009, 01:59 AM -0700): My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend deleted my post. My criticism PHP authors and Zend Framework in compare to other frameworks wasn't comfortable for Zend company. You

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread alayn
El mié, 23-09-2009 a las 06:51 -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney escribió: We make a point never to delete posts. If you did not see your post go through, it was an issue with your mailer, or the post was trapped as spam. About this spam trapping issue... I sent a pair of emails some days ago

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Alan Wagstaff
2009/9/23 alayn al...@irontec.com El mié, 23-09-2009 a las 06:51 -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney escribió: We make a point never to delete posts. If you did not see your post go through, it was an issue with your mailer, or the post was trapped as spam. About this spam trapping

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread alayn
El mié, 23-09-2009 a las 12:17 +0100, Alan Wagstaff escribió: Did the emails have a subject of Anyone having troubles with random empty captchas? If so, I received both of them fine through the list. Thanks, Alan Nope, I started that thread through the Nabble interface, cause there

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- alayn al...@irontec.com wrote (on Wednesday, 23 September 2009, 01:04 PM +0200): El mié, 23-09-2009 a las 06:51 -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney escribió: We make a point never to delete posts. If you did not see your post go through, it was an issue with your mailer, or the post was trapped

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread alayn
El mié, 23-09-2009 a las 08:53 -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney escribió: -- alayn al...@irontec.com wrote (on Wednesday, 23 September 2009, 01:04 PM +0200): El mié, 23-09-2009 a las 06:51 -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney escribió: We make a point never to delete posts. If you did not see your

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
Guys, please let this subject die by not replying to the thread. -Matt On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:59 AM, aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote: My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend deleted my post. My criticism PHP authors and Zend Framework in compare to

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Mon Zafra
Sorry, I just have to. Someone can delete stuff sent in a mailing list? That's hilarious! Better ask the Zend people to delete this thread too. This is just embarassing. At least you weren't using your name though, good call on that one. -- Mon On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Matthew

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Alexander Steshenko
What stuff?Use delete button along with the filters in your gmail. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Mon Zafra mon...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I just have to. Someone can delete stuff sent in a mailing list? That's hilarious! Better ask the Zend people to delete this thread too. This is just

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-23 Thread Mon Zafra
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm gonna do to this aooh guy's posts. I wish Zend can do that for everyone though, just as he claimed! -- Mon On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Alexander Steshenko lcfs...@gmail.comwrote: What stuff?Use delete button along with the filters in your gmail. On

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-18 Thread swilhelm
I love the Zend Framework's functionality, but so much of how all the necessary components hang together in a production quality Website is difficult to discern. I would like to get all of the following configured and working before I write a single line of application specific code:

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread aoohralex
Matthew: ok - I needn't register to download ZF, but I didn't see these links at the bottom of page and I thought that I must register to download ZF. You have given me link: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Configuring+Your+URL+Rewriter

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Саша Стаменковић
My vote for layout by default! Regards, Saša Stamenković On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew: ok - I needn't register to download ZF, but I didn't see these links at the bottom of page and I thought that I must register to download ZF. You have

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Carlton Gibson
aoohralex, On 16 Sep 2009, at 09:16, aoohralex wrote: [...] Carlton: Not everybody needs layout ? :O Then somebody can delete 1 folder + 1 line of code - I think this is faster than create folder + write 1 line. What is more - in Symfony Framework or in ASP.NET - we have layout !! In ZF

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread aoohralex
Carlton layout should be by default with content: ?php echo $this-layout()-content ? and then everybody will be happy. Based on Yours instructions how to connect to database: http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.db.html#zend.db.adapter.connecting.factory-config I have: $config = new

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Carlton Gibson
On 16 Sep 2009, at 12:55, aoohralex wrote: Based on Yours instructions how to connect to database: http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.db.html#zend.db.adapter.connecting.factory-config I have: $config = new Zend_Config( array( 'database' = array( 'adapter' = 'Mysqli',

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Joe Devon joede...@gmail.com wrote (on Tuesday, 15 September 2009, 08:43 PM -0700): If you do not want to register, if you scroll down further on the page, you'll find direct links. I bet if Zend did some clickstream analysis, you guys would be shocked how many people never see the

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote (on Wednesday, 16 September 2009, 01:16 AM -0700): You have given me link: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Configuring+Your+URL+Rewriter http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Configuring+Your+URL+Rewriter very often we can't modify

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:22, Carlton Gibson li...@noumenal.co.uk wrote: You need to revisit the quick start. It's quite clear that you need to set up a .htaccess file. ... Not everybody needs a layout. ... I use ZF and use neither, and quite successfully, too. It's not really a framework as

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread aoohralex
thx Carlton - this tutorial helped me: http://akrabat.com/wp-content/uploads/getting-started-with-zend-framework-163.pdf Now I have at least connection to database (I checked - I can show something from my database) Matthew Weier I think 99% hostings in my country don't allow to modify

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Carlton Gibson
On 16 Sep 2009, at 15:54, aoohralex wrote: thx Carlton - this tutorial helped me: http://akrabat.com/wp-content/uploads/getting-started-with-zend-framework-163.pdf Now I have at least connection to database (I checked - I can show something from my database) No problem. Glad to get you

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread aoohralex
So you think this is a mistake that these things are in Symfony Framework, ASP.NET Framework and many others frameworks ? :) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Is-there-anybody-from-Zend-team---tp25455352p25474309.html Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Carlton Gibson
On 16 Sep 2009, at 16:00, aoohralex wrote: So you think this is a mistake that these things are in Symfony Framework, ASP.NET Framework and many others frameworks ? :) No. What they do is up to them. My comments are directly entirely at Zend Framework and should not be taken to imply

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
The framework is designed primarily for web development, as is PHP; I don't think it's unreasonable for the layout configuration to appear in the application.ini for a project generated by the zf command, at least commented out. -Matt On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Carlton Gibson

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Sean Utt
are going to need it. -- Sean - Original Message - From: Carlton Gibson To: Zend Framework General Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ? On 16 Sep 2009, at 16:00, aoohralex wrote: So you think

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread aoohralex
One year ago I knew one person who used Zend Framework. One day he had to modify (add something) somebody's website wrote in Zend Framework but he had to write everything from the beginning. He was then very angry and he said me why. Do you know ? Bacause ZF was so flexible that somebody created

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Vladas Diržys
...@noumenal.co.uk *To:* Zend Framework General fw-general@lists.zend.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:12 AM *Subject:* Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ? On 16 Sep 2009, at 16:00, aoohralex wrote: So you think this is a mistake that these things are in Symfony Framework

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Joe Devon
#ZF takes some time for newbies to grasp. It's important to be nice to them because once they get it, they could become a valuable contributor. Once people play w/ a framework that doesn't have flexibility they can't do what they want to do, they may appreciate the flexibility #ZF has. Until

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote (on Wednesday, 16 September 2009, 09:16 AM -0700): One year ago I knew one person who used Zend Framework. One day he had to modify (add something) somebody's website wrote in Zend Framework but he had to write everything from the beginning. He was then

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote (on Wednesday, 16 September 2009, 08:00 AM -0700): So you think this is a mistake that these things are in Symfony Framework, ASP.NET Framework and many others frameworks ? :) Yes and no. Listen, web development has changed drastically in the past five

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Mark Wright
On 9/16/09, aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew Weier I think 99% hostings in my country don't allow to modify httpd.conf and all files must be in public catalog - and I think it is normal. I think everywhere is very small hostings where you can modify file httpd.conf. forgot to

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-16 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
Framework can't be flexible. If somebody needs flexibility then he can programming in normal PHP without framework. :-) This is an opinion, one to which Zend Framework does not subscribe. There are plenty of PHP frameworks which do subscribe to this opinion. And there's always Rails, which

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-15 Thread Ralph Schindler
Hey Aoohralex, Yes, myself, Alex Veremyev and our team leader Matthew Weier O'Phinney manage the Zend Framework project. Many others at Zend contribute to the project, but all of that is eclipsed by the 100's of active developers that Zend Framework has. Zend Framework would not be what it

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-15 Thread aoohralex
Yes I have more questions :) I know Symfony Framework and SF is MORE comfortable but I have some questions about ZF: 1. Why I must register to download ZF ? 2. Why after generate ZF project using console: zf.bat create project quickstart and after placed it on the server it DOESN'T WORK !! I

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-15 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
1. Why I must register to download ZF ? You don't, actually. http://framework.zend.com/download/current/ 2. Why after generate ZF project using console: zf.bat create project quickstart and after placed it on the server it DOESN'T WORK !! I must create .htaccess: RewriteEngine On

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-15 Thread Carlton Gibson
Ah okay, you don't need a member of the Zend team to answer these questions, many people form the community could do it. On 15 Sep 2009, at 18:55, aoohralex wrote: 1. Why I must register to download ZF ? You don't. You just need to register to use the CDN, which is faster. Somewhere or

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-15 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- aoohralex aoohra...@gmail.com wrote (on Tuesday, 15 September 2009, 10:55 AM -0700): Yes I have more questions :) I know Symfony Framework and SF is MORE comfortable but I have some questions about ZF: 1. Why I must register to download ZF ? You don't need to. The first, prominent link is

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-15 Thread Joe Devon
If you do not want to register, if you scroll down further on the page, you'll find direct links. I bet if Zend did some clickstream analysis, you guys would be shocked how many people never see the links on the bottom of the page. I remember the first time I wanted to find out more about Zend

Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?

2009-09-15 Thread swilhelm
If these issues caused @aoohralex problems, I can't wait to see his post regarding modules, ACL, form decorators, doing a db join, - Steve W. joedevon wrote: If you do not want to register, if you scroll down further on the page, you'll find direct links. I bet if Zend did some