I have prepared a new page based on the oringal content that
Berin prepared. Here is a summary of the things I changed/added:
1. cleanup of the descriptions and terminaolgy
(product/project/sub-project) etc.
2. simplification of the description of the pmc
(complemented with addition process con
> From: Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
Steve,
Had a read. Great stuff :>.
One question to all that I have been trying to
get clear in my head. What is the break up of
responsibility between the Incubator PMC and the
Spons
IL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: roles and responsibilities
>
> > From: Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
>
> Steve,
>
> Had a read. Great stuff :>.
>
> One question to all that I ha
Berin,
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
>
> Had a read. Great stuff :>.
At a quick glance, I see some things to change.
- there has not been stated a minimum community size to start
- it has been explicitly stated that a project does NOT need
to have its e
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Berin,
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
Had a read. Great stuff :>.
At a quick glance, I see some things to change.
- there has not been stated a minimum community size to start
The document does state the a candidate *shall
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
>>>Had a read. Great stuff :>.
>>At a quick glance, I see some things to change.
>>
>> - there has not been stated a minimum community size to start
>>
> The document does state the a candidate *shall* [have] a community of at
> le
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
Had a read. Great stuff :>.
At a quick glance, I see some things to change.
- there has not been stated a minimum community size to start
The document does state the a candidate *s
> From: Berin Lautenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 6:35 PM
>
> > From: Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
>
> Steve,
>
> Had a read. Great stuff :>.
>
> One question to all that I have been t
> Go for it!
Did. Done. But I did not incorporate the other comments relating directly
to Berin's question, so ...
> I'm still thinking about Berin's questions but I think your response
> makes sence - (I'm thinking about actual scenarios and how this may
> pan-out with an eye for the potential
On 9/21/2003 7:37 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Berin,
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
Had a read. Great stuff :>.
At a quick glance, I see some things to change.
- there has not been stated a minimum community size to start
Minimum size is not e
Ted Leung wrote:
> Minimum size is not enough here. There also needs to be a diversity
> requirement. For example XMLBeans must have no more than 50% of its
> committers from a single organization.
Good exit criteria.
--- Noel
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On Monday, Sep 22, 2003, at 04:37 Europe/Rome, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Berin,
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
Had a read. Great stuff :>.
At a quick glance, I see some things to change.
- there has not been stated a minimum community size to start
- it has been e
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>
> 1) how do people get on the incubation PMC? any committer? only
> members? members and officials? everybody committer that previously has
> a record of helping incubation? just curious of what feelings are.
another good question. i agree with roy that anyone with
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
...
Noel, if you don't mind I'll also answer this.
I agree with the principle (otherwise we get back to complete PMC
incubation independence and things blow up) but there are a few things
worth asking:
1) how do people get on the incubation PMC? any committer? only
me
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:39:20 -0400
(Subject: Re: roles and responsibilities)
Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2) isn't the incubation more an oversight group, a task force, then a
> > project?
> you seem to be harking back to 'projects
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Noel, if you don't mind I'll also answer this.
Someone asking my permission to respond to an open comment on a public list
actually makes me a bit uncomfortable. Makes me wonder why anyone they felt
the need to ask. The fact that you are a member of the overseeing PM
On 9/21/2003 10:59 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Ted Leung wrote:
Minimum size is not enough here. There also needs to be a diversity
requirement. For example XMLBeans must have no more than 50% of its
committers from a single organization.
Good exit criteria.
You're right, of course
On 9/22/2003 5:39 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
1) how do people get on the incubation PMC? any committer? only
members? members and officials? everybody committer that previously has
a record of helping incubation? just curious of what feelings are.
anoth
> > let's make sure we're agreed on terminology here. so far, the terms
> > 'sponsor', 'shepherd', and 'mentor' have been conflated. my view is
> > that the latter two are the same and refer to a single individual, and
> > that a sponsor is either that same person or the asf project that has
> >s
On 9/22/2003 1:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
+1. I don't think that we need have multiple people fufill all these
roles. If the sponsor/shepherd/mentor is going to be a member of the
incubator PMC (see 1 above), then they ought to be trusted to follow the
incubator guidlines (once they exist).
Ted,
If I were you, I think that I would subscribe myself to the Incubator PMC
mailing list. That way you can see how things are settling in (I would
expect that they could use a bit of time to consolidate all of the
discussion), and if they say that they're ready, find out whom is going to
take
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size
> > 2) isn't the incubation more an oversight group, a task force, then a
> > project?
>
> you seem to be harking back to 'projects produce code'. i disagree with
> that perspective; 'projects produce goodness for the asf' might be closer.
> in this case, the i
On 9/22/2003 4:50 PM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
From: Rodent of Unusual Size
what's the role of the incubator pmc in this? at the least, it's a set
of passionate asf people who are essentially in agreement about what
makes something a genuine 'apache'-style project, who review the
reports o
On 9/22/2003 4:52 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Ted,
If I were you, I think that I would subscribe myself to the Incubator PMC
mailing list. That way you can see how things are settling in (I would
expect that they could use a bit of time to consolidate all of the
discussion), and if they say that
Ted Leung wrote:
On 9/22/2003 4:50 PM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
From: Rodent of Unusual Size
what's the role of the incubator pmc in this? at the least, it's a set
of passionate asf people who are essentially in agreement about what
makes something a genuine 'apache'-style project, who review
Please ignore this post. I saw that Nicola Ken was starting to pull up
against my tail and didn't want that rat bastard to have contributed more
than me statistically to the discussion. Thus I have posted this mail to
keep Nicola Ken from beating me. I think Just in case lines of mails are
count
Please ignore this post. I saw that Nicola Ken was starting to pull up
against my tail and didn't want that rat bastard to have contributed more
than me statistically to the discussion. Thus I have posted this mail to
keep Nicola Ken from beating me. I think Just in case lines of mails are
count
Everybody's a comedian, but not everybody is funny.
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 26/09/2003 05:48:30 AM:
> Please ignore this post. I saw that Nicola Ken was starting to pull up
> against my tail and didn't want that rat bastard to have contributed
more
> than me statistical
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everybody's a comedian, but not everybody is funny.
Zut - I thought it was funny!
Steve.
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 26/09/2003 05:48:30 AM:
Please ignore this post. I saw that Nicola Ken was starting to pull up
against my tail and didn't want
> From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In my view, the Sponsoring PMC *should* take an active role. But the
> Incubator PMC is still responsible for making sure that all of criteria are
> met before letting it into the ASF proper. Looking over the document, the
> Sponsoring PMC would b
Peoples,
I have taken Stephen's page and attempted to integrate my understanding
of the concept of a Sponsoring Entity (e.g. XML project in the case of
XMLBeans).
This is all based on what I have seen during the course of the XMLBeans
incubation startup.
Apologies for term *Sponsoring Entity*
Peoples,
Have done another update and tried to represent the results of the
various comments during the day. Have mainly tried to :
1) Re-emphaise the role of a Sponsor as an ongoing role. No particular
requirements in the process (other than initial recommendation), but
have stated that the
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
...
I have also very much de-emphasised the role of the sponsor. From what
I've seen, the key role post acceptance is the Shepherd. If the Sponsor
wishes to become the shepherd, then they retain the responsibilities,
otherwise they can move onto other things, having con
> I have also very much de-emphasised the role of the sponsor. From what
> I've seen, the key role post acceptance is the Shepherd. If the Sponsor
> wishes to become the shepherd, then they retain the responsibilities
I disagree. One problem is that the terms seem to be getting overloaded.
But
Berin:
Have just gone thought the changes. I like the notion of the
"Sponsoring Entity" at this addresses the entity into which a prodling
is destined. Perhaps we could change the name to "Parent". I.e. if a
cadidate aims to be top-level, its parent would be the Board. If the
project aims t
> I like the notion of the "Sponsoring Entity" at this addresses
> the entity into which a prodling is destined.
Apparently, the part that "destination is an exit criteria" hasn't resonated
with you. Yes, it is helpful to have an idea up front, but not in the sense
where you took it, specifically
On 9/22/2003 5:23 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
...
I have also very much de-emphasised the role of the sponsor. From
what I've seen, the key role post acceptance is the Shepherd. If the
Sponsor wishes to become the shepherd, then they retain the
responsibilities, ot
Steve,
> From: Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 1. Entities (Board, Parent, Incubator PMC) should not assigned actional
> responsibilities - only decision responsibility. Actional reposibility
> should be assigned to roles that are represented by accountable
> individuals. T
Berin:
Have just read though your email and I feel that I have very strong
empathy with the position your raising - but all the same I'm going to
disagree with you! I'm confident that if we were in a cafe down in the
14e we would tie this up nicely in less that a couple of hours. But
that is
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Small change in wording. "If Ted stops doing his role as Shepherd,
then I would see it as the responsibility of the XML Project PMC
Chair" to step in and find someone else."
Wooop - a compound correction to an otherwise perfect composition:
"If Ted stops doing his
Stephen,
Actually, I think you had it right the first time. The XML Project PMC
should take the first responsibility to find someone where their
representative to stop doing his role.
--- Noel
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Steve,
Not actually sure we are disagreeing. Let me
just add some thoughts and see where we get to...
> Zut ... Australia really is at the end of the earth relative to France!
> (Zut translated into Australian is B* H***).
. Tell me about it. The time zones are
playing havoc with me.
> B
> From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Another cut at roles and responsibilities
> Date: 23/09/2003 11:20:12
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Stephen,
>
> Actually, I think you had it right the first time. The XML Project PMC
Stephen,
If we ever sit down in some hypothetical cafe, remind me to have a talk with
you about how to present an argument for best effect. :-)
Once I got past some of your phrasing, which I consider somewhat
injudiciously selected considering your likely audience, it occurred to me
that althoug
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Stephen,
Actually, I think you had it right the first time. The XML Project PMC
should take the first responsibility to find someone where their
representative to stop doing his role.
Actually - I disagree.
If I say that the Board is responsible. What I am saying is th
> >Actually, I think you had it right the first time. The XML Project PMC
> >should take the first responsibility to find someone where their
> >representative to stop doing his role.
> Actually - I disagree.
Actually, you didn't. What you did was engage in a discussion of individual
vs group r
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Actually, I think you had it right the first time. The XML Project PMC
should take the first responsibility to find someone where their
representative to stop doing his role.
Actually - I disagree.
Actually, you didn't. What you did was engage in a discuss
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Stephen,
If we ever sit down in some hypothetical cafe, remind me to have a talk with
you about how to present an argument for best effect. :-)
Once I got past some of your phrasing, which I consider somewhat
injudiciously selected considering your likely audience,
Han
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Steve,
Not actually sure we are disagreeing. Let me
just add some thoughts and see where we get to...
Zut ... Australia really is at the end of the earth relative to France!
(Zut translated into Australian is B* H***).
. Tell me about it. The time zones ar
> if this relates to an actionable issue - could you be a touch more
> specific as to the action.
Actually, at this point I think that discussion has converged, a consensus
appears to have emerged, and since Berin has taken a lead on coalescing this
material, I think it makes sense to give him (an
>>Once I got past some of your phrasing, which I consider somewhat
>>injudiciously selected considering your likely audience,
> Hang on a tick - I have to look this one up!
LOL
Well, for a start, referring to every decision making body as dysfunctional
wasn't the wisest course of action in my vi
> Think of this entire process as the establishment of a set of imutable
> procedures that will protect us from the breakdown of their system.
Things don't work that way, Stephen. People don't. Especially the kind of
people who participate here. This is not a community of bureaucrats. As
under
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Think of this entire process as the establishment of a set of imutable
procedures that will protect us from the breakdown of their system.
Things don't work that way, Stephen. People don't. Especially the kind of
people who participate here. This is not a community o
> > As underspecified as the process may have been, you are engaging
> > in vast overengineering.
> If there is overengineering I need specific in order to address the
concern.
I hope you can see the humor in that juxtaposition.
--- Noel
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Once I got past some of your phrasing, which I consider somewhat
injudiciously selected considering your likely audience,
Hang on a tick - I have to look this one up!
LOL
Well, for a start, referring to every decision making body as dysfunctional
wasn't the
On 9/22/2003 6:28 PM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Another cut at roles and responsibilities
Date: 23/09/2003 11:20:12
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Stephen,
Actually, I think you had it right the first time. The XML Proje
> I hope that the policies, procedures, responsibilities, and
> ultimate accountabilities, will have a tangible and net-
> positive impact on the overall development of the Apache Community.
:-)
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Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I hope that the policies, procedures, responsibilities, and
ultimate accountabilities, will have a tangible and net-
positive impact on the overall development of the Apache Community.
:-)
That's it - no umbrella questions?
This is so dissapointing!
Steve!
--
Stephen
> From: Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I think that Berin and I are aiming at the same objective and have very
> similar motives. I happen to think that we can leverage and utilize the
> contribution of Berin's process by analysing his concers and underlying
> interests and drawing fr
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Thus you have the shepherd appointed by the sponsor PMC, but being
bound by the Incubator PMC
rules and regs. (And I would imagine the incubator
would need to agree the choice.)
Which does not work in practice (with respect to current policy).
The Icubator PMC has been
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Thus you have the shepherd appointed by the sponsor PMC, but being
bound by the Incubator PMC
rules and regs. (And I would imagine the incubator
would need to agree the choice.)
Which does not work in practice (with respect to current policy).
T
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
An incubation needs someone that actively nutrures the community, pushes
the agenda and reports to the PMC of which he is part.
I call him the sponsor.
We also need someone that is knowlegable of how the Incubator works and
that reports to the Incubator PMC.
I call him
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
An incubation needs someone that actively nutrures the community,
pushes the agenda and reports to the PMC of which he is part.
I call him the sponsor.
We also need someone that is knowlegable of how the Incubator works
and that reports to the
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
It's about having an "elder" shepherd mentoring the main shepherd, and
possibly requiring at least two people helping in Incubation.
What do others think about this?
Over-regulation.
--
Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Op
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Would be great if you could have a read through the new version of
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
I'm hoping that it is something that will work. I've actually got it
such that the Shepherd reports to both. The Sponsor is someone who
he
On 9/23/2003 5:31 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
There is only one point that I have different in my mind and that is
IIUC addressed there.
It's about having an "elder" shepherd mentoring the main shepherd, and
possibly requiring at least two people helping in Incubation.
I think that there a
On 9/23/2003 5:29 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Would be great if you could have a read through the new version of
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
I'm hoping that it is something that will work. I've actually got it
such that the Shepherd reports to both. The Spon
Nicola,
> > Would be great if you could have a read through the new version of
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
> Done. It's *very* well writtem :-)
> There is only one point that I have different in my mind and that is
> IIUC addressed there.
> It's about havi
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Would be great if you could have a read through the new version of
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
Its looking good.
One point concerning the description of the Sponsoring Entity. I
currently includes a sub-heading "Responsibilities o
> From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > It's about having an "elder" shepherd mentoring the main shepherd, and
> > possibly requiring at least two people helping in Incubation.
> As someone who has seen multiple incubations, you feel that there is an
> expertise related to incubation he
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It's about having an "elder" shepherd mentoring the main shepherd, and
possibly requiring at least two people helping in Incubation.
As someone who has seen multiple incubations, you feel that there is an
expertise related to inc
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:29 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> Would be great if you could have a read through the new version of
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings
I also think this is a very well-written and extremely useful document.
Below are a few notes/
Cliff,
Firstly - thanks for all the thoughts. Great stuff! (I think. Grumble
grumble, more work, mutter mutter :>)
You are more than welcome to update anything in the document you so
desire. However that's not a hint - am happy to (and will tomorrow)
take all this on board and make the cha
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> Cliff,
Firstly - thanks for all the thoughts. Great stuff! (I think. Grumble
grumble, more work, mutter mutter :>)
Hehehe, you write stuff too well ;-)
...
* "On acceptance of a candidate project, the assigned Shepherd and
nominated Sponsor shall be added to the set of
Berin:
Total agree with your comments and suggestions you provided in response
to Cliff.
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Cliff,
Firstly - thanks for all the thoughts. Great stuff!
Totally !!
Feedback is really helpfull. The detail and obviouse attention to
content is exactly the sort of thing we
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:23 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> Cliff,
>
> Firstly - thanks for all the thoughts. Great stuff! (I think.
> Grumble grumble, more work, mutter mutter :>)
>
> You are more than welcome to update anything in the document you so
> desire. However that's not a
> From: Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sometimes a sponsor or a shepherd has to act fast and remove from CVS
> things that are not correct, like licensing. Or simply to give a hand,
> always about incubation things.
>
> I don't find it inconsistent with meritrocracy, as they should be
Cliff,
Just saw your updates. Many thanks indeed! Allowed me to be lazy :>.
Have also added something around your comment, echoed by Nicola, around
the Shepherd not being an initial committer, but having CVS access for
administrative purposes.
Cheers,
Berin
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
On We
> From: Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> One point concerning the description of the Sponsoring Entity. I
> currently includes a sub-heading "Responsibilities of the Sponsoring
> Entity". The content is basically describing responsibilities of the
> Shepherd. It would read better if t
On 7/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kenneth Tam wrote:
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html
> "A Mentor is a role undertaken by a permanent member of the Apache
> Software Foundation and is chosen by the Sponsor to actively lead in
> the d
On 7/14/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kenneth Tam wrote:
>
> > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html
>
> > "A Mentor is a role undertaken by a permanent member of the Apache
> > Soft
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> Could someone point to the post that would explain how it should be fixed?
To quote myself, but this is hardly the first time it has come up:
---
Mentors are (MUST BE) Incubator PMC Members. ASF Members are automatically
eligible for PMC membership; non-Members may be ele
On Jul 14, 2006, at 1:14 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
To quote myself, but this is hardly the first time it has come up:
---
Mentors are (MUST BE) Incubator PMC Members. ASF Members are
automatically
eligible for PMC membership; non-Members may be elected at the
discretion of
the Incubator P
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> It is absolute nonsense to have someone guiding newbies through
> the ASF process when they haven't even made it to the halfway
> point themselves.
Membership is a half-way point? What's the full distance? ;-)
But I agree with you: "It is absolute nonsense to have some
On Jul 14, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
It is absolute nonsense to have someone guiding newbies through
the ASF process when they haven't even made it to the halfway
point themselves.
Membership is a half-way point? What's the full distance? ;-)
I'll le
On 7/14/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That doesn't mean people need to be an ASF member to be involved in
incubation of a project -- they simply don't meet the required need
for a Mentor who is an ASF member.
+1. -- justin
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On 7/14/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/14/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That doesn't mean people need to be an ASF member to be involved in
> incubation of a project -- they simply don't meet the required need
> for a Mentor who is an ASF member.
+1. --
Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That doesn't mean people need to be an ASF member to be involved in
> > incubation of a project
Goes without saying. :-) More on the rest in a bit.
--- Noel
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Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Membership is a half-way point? What's the full distance? ;-)
> I'll let you know when I get there.
According to some, disagreeing with Roy is the obligatory Right of Passage.
;-)
> > But I agree with you: "It is absolute nonsense to have some
r?
Could someone point to the post that would explain how it should be fixed?
(focussing just on the document, not the content)
IMO policy should be maintained in only one document. the supporting
documentation should add descriptive and discursive content (unsuitable for
policy) and refer to
On Jul 14, 2006, at 11:20 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
We just voted to elect a non-Member ASF Officer to the Incubator
PMC in order for him to act as Mentor for the projects sponsored
by the PMC of which he is the PMC Chair. Do we wish to declare
that election and process null and void? Or do y
Roy,
Thanks. So let's clarify some of these issues (out of order from your
reply).
> > [The need for a Mentor to be an ASF Member was] imposed by
> > no other agency than the Incubator PMC, itself.
> A need imposed by the board when it created the Incubator with a given
> purpose that cannot be
Move discursive material about PMC from policy to roles and responsibilities
Key: INCUBATOR-35
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-35
Project: Incubator
lution.
Maybe this gets "fixed" during post-processing of the xml but it doesn't follow
the pattern elsewhere in this document.
> Move discursive material about PMC from policy to ro
d the corrected version.
VOTE approved -
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/[EMAIL
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> Move discursive material about PMC from policy to roles and responsi
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