Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Peter Humphrey writes: On Tuesday 28 August 2012 21:57:43 Alex Schuster wrote: I wrote: Well, all I can do now is to get a new board and see if things will be okay then. [...] So I had to wait. And when it became available, I wondered if it might be the processor instead that has the

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Alan McKinnon wrote: Rule #1 in dealing with odd weird strange computer faults is ALWAYS test with another PSU of at least twice the capacity you think you need. +1 I always start with the P/S. Well, unless I see something else unrelated letting the smoke out. Even then tho,

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Volker Armin Hemmann writes: Am Dienstag, 28. August 2012, 22:57:43 schrieb Alex Schuster: This sucks. Is it a faulty board again? Is something (the PSU?) killing the board once I turn the thing on? What will happen when I have the next board and try again? Argh. so - instead of changing

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: Well, all I can do now is to get a new board and see if things will be okay then. This took longer than expected. The board I wanted (the same I already have) was not available, I had to order it. Strange, there is only one that has the features I want - AMD3+ chipset, four memory

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Dienstag, 28. August 2012, 22:57:43 schrieb Alex Schuster: I wrote: Well, all I can do now is to get a new board and see if things will be okay then. This took longer than expected. The board I wanted (the same I already have) was not available, I had to order it. Strange, there is

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Edward M
On 08/28/2012 01:57 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: So I had to wait. And when it became available, I wondered if it might be the processor instead that has the problem, so I let the PC shop diagnose CPU and board. This took until today, and they confirmed it was the board indeed, not the CPU. Fine,

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Edward M martinezedward...@gmail.com wrote: And if the motherboard is somehow shorting out inside the case http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/307187-30-motherboard-shorting-case I completely forget that I had this happen once. The case design was such that

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Edward M martinezedward...@gmail.com wrote: And if the motherboard is somehow shorting out inside the case

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Edward M martinezedward...@gmail.com wrote: And if the motherboard is somehow shorting out inside the

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 21:57:43 Alex Schuster wrote: I wrote: Well, all I can do now is to get a new board and see if things will be okay then. [...] So I had to wait. And when it became available, I wondered if it might be the processor instead that has the problem, so I let the PC

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2012 21:57:43 Alex Schuster wrote: I wrote: Well, all I can do now is to get a new board and see if things will be okay then. [...] So I had to wait. And when it became available, I

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 01:15:30 +0100 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2012 21:57:43 Alex Schuster wrote: I wrote: Well, all I can do now is to get a new board and see if things will be okay then. [...] So I had to wait. And when it became available, I

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:28:31 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a problem with the English language? I thought I knew it inside- out, upside-down and back-to-front. I still think so. Yet your account has you tying yourself in knots over a known fault. Too many uses of

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:28:31 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a problem with the English language? I thought I knew it inside- out, upside-down and back-to-front. I still think so. Yet your

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Rule #1 in dealing with odd weird strange computer faults is ALWAYS test with another PSU of at least twice the capacity you think you need. +1 I always start with the P/S. Well, unless I see something else unrelated letting the smoke out. Even then tho, a bad P/S can

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 29 August 2012 01:29:00 Alan McKinnon wrote: No, not at all. He means (just read the whole mail with a view to understanding the communication, not finding the grammar faults) That's what I did. I read the words he wrote, several times. Grammar faults? I noticed none. -- Rgds

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:04:55 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Rule #1 in dealing with odd weird strange computer faults is ALWAYS test with another PSU of at least twice the capacity you think you need. +1 I always start with the P/S. Well, unless I see

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:43:29 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:28:31 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a problem with the English language? I thought I knew it

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-28 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:04:55 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Rule #1 in dealing with odd weird strange computer faults is ALWAYS test with another PSU of at least twice the capacity you think you need. +1 I always start with the P/S.

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-19 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale spent two cents: Just my two cents here. Problems like this are usually the power supply. Could it be the mobo, yes it could but the power supply is more likely, usually cheaper to replace and easier to. I had a friends puter that was acting weird, random reboots and such, it was the

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread meino . cramer
Hi Alex, ...shot in the dark: Remove as much as possible of the cards, addons, connections etc from the PC ... make in as much bare bone as possible. Check All coolers (the little ones also) for dust. Remove all dust even if it is not completly covered with it. Dont forget the internals of the

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Randolph Maaßen
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Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 17. August 2012, 09:50:40 schrieb Alex Schuster: sounds like a power problem. Either psu is gone bad (get a new one) or your mainboard's power circuitry gone bad (if replacement of psu does not help, get a new one). But first thing first: disconnect your hdds! No reason to risk

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:50:40 +0200 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Hi there! Two days ago, my PC suddenly died, after working fine for half a year. I used myrtcwake as usual to suspend to RAM, and it woke up in the morning. But after two minutes, the screen went blank and

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: ...shot in the dark: Remove as much as possible of the cards, addons, connections etc from the PC ... make in as much bare bone as possible. Done already. Check All coolers (the little ones also) for dust. Remove all dust even if it is not completly covered with

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Randolph Maaßen writes: Aaa aAaa aaa a Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi Alex, ...shot in the dark: Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa www a weißes www aa Array www www www a aaa aa aadwqqqaaa aaa w

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2012/8/17 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org Randolph Maaßen writes: Aaa aAaa aaa a Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi Alex, ...shot in the dark: Remove as much as possible of the cards,aadwqqqaaa www wpa www a weißes www aa

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! Two days ago, my PC suddenly died, after working fine for half a year. I used myrtcwake as usual to suspend to RAM, and it woke up in the morning. But after two minutes, the screen went blank and nothing, even SysRq, gave a reaction. I tried booting a couple of

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Dale
Randolph Maaßen wrote: 2012/8/17 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org mailto:wo...@wonkology.org Randolph Maaßen writes: Aaa aAaa aaa a Am 17.08.2012 10:31 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Matthias Hanft
Randolph Maaßen wrote: Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket. I assumed your cat walking over the keyboard ;) -Matt

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?q

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Randolph Maaßen writes: 2012/8/17 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org mailto:wo...@wonkology.org Woow! What is going on here? Damn!! Sorry for this bad post, somehow my phone unlocked in my pocket. I'm happy for every reply, and this was a very special one :) -- Mit

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster
v...@ukr.net writes: If the system behaves in such an unpredictable way (freezing at a random point), I usually check the following things: - RAM; - bloated capacitors on the Motherboard; - bloated or dried capacitors in the power supply unit; If your PC is only half a year old, it is

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Hi there! Two days ago, my PC suddenly died, after working fine for half a year. I used myrtcwake as usual to suspend to RAM, and it woke up in the morning. But after two minutes, the screen went blank and nothing,

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Volker Armin Hemmann writes: sounds like a power problem. Either psu is gone bad (get a new one) Well, I got three old ones instead :) or your mainboard's power circuitry gone bad (if replacement of psu does not help, get a new one). It did not help :( Too bad, I probably need a new

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: And there, it just crashed while in the BIOS setup. If you are using a video card (instead of built-in/on-board video) I would try a different video card, if you have an old or spare one. I have had lots of video cards die

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Paul Hartman writes: If you are using a video card (instead of built-in/on-board video) I would try a different video card, if you have an old or spare one. I have had lots of video cards die from overheating and power spikes. Sorry, I did not mention that I do not have a video card, it's

Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?

2012-08-17 Thread felix
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