Re: (no subject)

s not one of the big playas you hear about in OSS database conversations, so maybe there's a good reason for that. Erik -- Erik Price <http://erikprice.com/> ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: Desktop apps

On Mar 6, 2004, at 11:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Install XEmacs, then run the tutorial. Use the tutorial for even just 15 minutes. This isn't "reading documentation", it's actually using (X)Emacs to edit the actual tutorial you're going through. The tutorial explains the basics of using Ema

Re: How do *REAL* programmers work?

On Feb 14, 2004, at 8:58 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Going from a text-based word processor, like WordPerfect 4.1, to a GUI word processor, like MS Write or Word, was a great step backwards, as the graphical appearance - fonts, bold, point size, margins - became of more concern than finishing a good tho

Re: How do *REAL* programmers work?

On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 03:23PM, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I know a lot of good jokes start out "REAL programmers don't" but I'd like >to know how *REAL* programmers work in the FOSS world. But I'd like to >narrow down the programmer definition I'm looking for to the type

Re: Python help

On Feb 8, 2004, at 9:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Java requires even more verbosity. This is my general impression of Java. Is the verbosity a good thing or not? It seems verbose to the point of redundancy. Is this helpful, or does it just get in the way? The answer to that is that it's a ma

Re: Python help

On Feb 5, 2004, at 10:47 AM, Paul Lussier wrote: I'm not overly interesting in shell, perl, tcl, or other language solutions to this problem, since I already know how to write this in the first 3. (a java or c implementation might be interesting :) Here's the Java implementation. You can see tha

Re: Python help

On Thursday, February 05, 2004, at 06:14PM, Cole Tuininga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This is a very subtle one. The point is that in a method definition >within an object, you never want to assign a mutable type (namely, the >empty list) to an argument. Weird behavior will occur. I totally

Re: Python help

Paul Lussier wrote: >I'd like to see/hear others ideas on how to write this same script. >I'm most interested in improvements or commentary on why what I did >is either right, wrong, interesting, stupid, etc. Below you'll find my stab at it -- it might not be correct, or even run, b/c I haven't

Re: Python help

Paul Lussier wrote: >I'd like to see/hear others ideas on how to write this same script. >I'm most interested in improvements or commentary on why what I did >is either right, wrong, interesting, stupid, etc. Below you'll find my stab at it -- it might not be correct, or even run, b/c I haven't

Re: Python help

Paul Lussier wrote: >I'd like to see/hear others ideas on how to write this same script. >I'm most interested in improvements or commentary on why what I did >is either right, wrong, interesting, stupid, etc. Below you'll find my stab at it -- it might not be correct, or even run, b/c I haven't

Re: Mail, PIMs, CRMs and not Windows :)

On Jan 26, 2004, at 11:55 PM, Brian Riley (maillist) wrote: I personally haven't tried it, but it would be interested to know if the IMAP problems in Mail.app from Jaguar (10.2.x) persist in Mail.app under Panther (10.3.x), they did quite an overhaul on it, almost enough to tempt me to try it

Re: Mail, PIMs, CRMs and not Windows :)

On Jan 26, 2004, at 8:37 PM, Paul Lussier wrote: That's what I use, with two seperate IMAP accounts. I never noticed any buggy-ness with Mail.app under Jaguar. Do you have any examples? iCal is fantastic. I've heard of a lot of problems, mostly with not being able to save sent mail on the IMAP

Re: A good LINUX magazine ?

On Dec 25, 2003, at 2:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure where else it can be found, but I know that SoftPro carries it, at least in the Burlington store. Note however that they moved to Waltham. Not much farther, but not quite as convenient to stop by on the way to or from Boston.

Re: Kind of OT: Wierd emails... Virus? Probe? ???

On Dec 17, 2003, at 11:16 AM, Brian Chabot wrote: Hey, all... I just noticed something interesting in my spam filter and was curious if anyone here might know what it's from. I have several emails that seem to be missing rather important header info... like subjects... and the *body*. What is

Re: Personal database software for *nix?

On Nov 24, 2003, at 10:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello world, Does anybody have any knowledge on personal database software for Linux? I just-now made up the term "personal database software", although I would be astounded if I'm the first person to do so. I'm thinking about someth

Re: Domain Registrar?

On Nov 7, 2003, at 12:53 PM, Charlie Farinella wrote: I've found godaddy.com to be inexpensive, AND... they even offer knowledgeable support. Twice, I've done Dumb Things(tm), and their tech support showed me the way to enlightenment both times. And I've never had a glitch with them yet. I li

Re: PHP question RH Linux ---a bit ot---

On Thursday, November 06, 2003, at 03:10PM, Greg Rundlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anyway, you don't even need to know where the temp location is. You >should use the $_FILES super global to access and manipulate the >uploaded file. Greg's right. > Also, you can set the MAX_FILE_SIZE in

Re: CSS Question

On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 10:04 AM, Cole Tuininga wrote: I would have imagined that with css (using inline style sheet defs), I would simply do this: . . This works just ducky in Netscape 4.7x, but not my current version of mozilla. Does anybody know what I need to do

Re: OT - Re: Dimensional Warp Generator...

mike ledoux wrote: Apparently, this guy wasn't (just) doing this to collect email addresses, he really thought he'd be able to obtain the parts he needed for his time machine: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,60141,00.html He was a traditional spammer too. I don't sympathize with the

Re: q for the C hackers

Tom Fogal wrote: The bit about memory addresses instead of some large value is entirely correct. Practically however, this will only be better when passing a value larger than the register size of the architecture you are on. For instance, on ix86 linux, all pointers are 32-bit integers. Thus pa

Re: q for the C hackers

Tom Fogal wrote: I'm just interested in hearing about whether one is more appropriate than the other in some contexts. Thanks. Generally, I would use #defines for anything but function parameters. Passing things as a constant reference (const type &val) is a good way to avoid passing a large

q for the C hackers

When I want to define a constant value in Java, such as a magic number, I usually use "public static final": public static final int NUMBER_OF_UNITS = 8; However, what is the convention in C? There seem to be two fine ways of doing it -- using the preprocessor, or the const keyword: #defi

Re: OT: Fox Trot

On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 12:54 PM, Michael Costolo wrote: Linux in the funnies today: http://www.ucomics.com/foxtrot/index.phtml Actually I remember having a Foxtrot comic hanging on the wall of an apartment I lived in back in 1998, where Jason is trying to install Linux on his iFrui

Re: Spam works... and that's the crux of the problem

Larry Cook wrote: Since Spam has been a recent topic, I thought I'd share this article about a business in Manchester that uses Spam: Wow. That is really bizarre. An "honest" state chess champion acting as the mastermind, his teenage sister filling the orders, and a former skinhead acting a

Re: Resources on reverse engineering?

Scott Garman wrote: Hi all, I have become interested in learning about reverse engineering and decompilation techniques, particularly for the purpose of studying programs that exploit security vulnerabilities (including trojans, viruses, and worms). There was a slashdot story about it not too lo

Re: I HATE SPAM (was Re: Mouse swapping on a laptop)

On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 09:23 PM, Travis Roy wrote: The main thing I'm trying to say is that we should somehow block email addresses from showing up on the archive website rather then have people stop it from archiving their messages. The archive becomes pointless if a large number of peo

Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

brian wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 09:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Five-hundred and five dollars!?! For adjusting a valve??" exclaims the manager. Once upon a time a company charged too much for a keyboard. Why? Because they could. I guess you can look at it both ways (not meaning to be too

Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

Richard Soule wrote: Erik Price wrote: I would save up and it would be my next "big purchase" -- if they offered USB. http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm It's a bit more at $299, so I would probably go with some type of adapter: http://www.maltron.co.uk/USB-PS2pic.html a

Re: The lack of need for Caps-Lock (was laptop keyboard replacement)

Bill Freeman wrote: Then the very next keystroke that you should learn is "C-H K", which runs describe-key, which prompts for a key (combinatione), and displays the on line documentation for the command bound to the key. That's awesome! Thanks! Some initial playing with this command se

Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

Richard Soule wrote: Jeff Kinz wrote: http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/professional.htm $350. First time I've seen a keyboard more expensive than a computer! :-) Only $239 for the essential which has the same layout and almost the same features: I never realized they had a cheaper version (thou

Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

Richard Soule wrote: If you want to type VERY fast you should try one of these: http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/professional.htm It's what I use at work and I love it. As a touch typist who is concerned about hand placement (WRT RSI), I saw one of those once at the UMass engineering lab and instan

Re: The lack of need for Caps-Lock (was laptop keyboard replacement)

Bob Bell wrote: And I actually don't see the big deal using your left pinky to hold down the shift key while you type. Granted, the sample line had a LOT of upper-case characters, and hitting caps-lock may be simpler, but I tried it both ways and holding down shift didn't really seem to slow

Re: The lack of need for Caps-Lock (was laptop keyboard replacement)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:15:09 EDT Erik Price said: I like emacs too, and use it whenever I'm logged into a server w/ssh, but I don't think I know it too well -- I have no idea what those keystrokes do!! ;) You should spend some time using

Re: The lack of need for Caps-Lock (was laptop keyboard replacement)

Kevin D. Clark wrote: BTW, as a side comment: I like emacs, and I respect the fact that other people like different editors. For me, it isn't so important that people use a certain editor, but it is important that they learn how to use it *well*. I like emacs too, and use it whenever I'm logge

Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:45 PM, Bill Freeman wrote: The Caps Lock key, on the other hand, belongs on the back or bottom of the computer, protected by a steel cover held in place by a dozen or so screws with an assortment of Robbinson heads and the ones that they use on restroom

interested in buying cheap linux laptop

Hi folks, I don't have much familiarity with PC hardware, but I'd like to purchase a cheap (used, etc) machine to run Linux on. Since it's for [personal] development only, my only performance requirement is that it be capable of running a relatively recent Linux with X11 and the development to

Re: [gnhlug-announce] GNHLUG BBQ - Sat 23 Aug 2003

Greg Kettmann wrote: Great idea. Is the idea that spouses or kids might be welcome as well or is this more for Linux afficionados? Not trying to complicate things, just clarifying. Or as Uri Guttman put it, "spice and spawn". Erik ___ gnhlug-dis

Re: Perl help

Cole Tuininga wrote: Got a perl question for y'all. I rarely have to do anything with perl, and I'm sure perl has a good reason for behaving like the following, but heck if I can figure it out. The perl cookbook suggestions using sprintf for rounding floats. This seemingly works fine: [EMAIL PR

Re: [gnhlug-announce] Books for review and door prizes

Morbus Iff wrote: >Python in a Nutshell >Linux Server Hacks >Learning Perl Objects, References & Modules >Linux Security Cookbook >Python Cookbook >Google Hacks Incidentally, I contributed to Linux Server Hacks, and did Perl consulting on Google Hacks ;) Plus co-wrot

Re: Graphics blips

Kevin D. Clark wrote: Mark Komarinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Perl with a code formatter? I think that's one of the signs of the apocalypse. Another sign would be a Python "one-liner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] /cygdrive/c/jboss/jboss-3.2.1/docs/dtd $ python -c 'print "hello world"' hello wor

Re: Graphics blips

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 10:32 PM, Mark Komarinski wrote: This is a real hard problem to describe, but it's really annoying. It seems to happen with only HTML code that I write. Take a look at http://www.wayga.org/~mkomarinski/julie.php Take a look between the images, in the lower right han

Re: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software

Derek Martin wrote: If walmart moves into a town predominated by little shops, and they all can't compete with walmart (and rest assured they can't), then the owners of those shops will have to close down, and go get jobs at walmart. Their incomes will likely be reduced by between 50 and 75 per

Re: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software

Tom Buskey wrote: s/Walmart/McDonald's/g s/Walmart/K-Mart/g s/Walmart/Target/g s/Walmart/Pizza Hut/g s/Walmart/Dunkin Donuts/g s/Walmart/Krispy Kreme/g s/Walmart/Home Depot/g s/Walmart/Lowe's/g s/Walmart/etc.. What I don't get is people going after Walmart because they put local business out but

Re: Mozilla is leaving AOL

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Big news! Check out http://www.mozilla.org This hasn't hit /. yet. I just heard on IRC from some of the mozilla folks! Nice new site layout too! Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.

Re: Database User Groups anyone?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of any Database user groups in the greater Boston area? Thanks, There is also the NH oracle user group (). But I would be interested in hearing about a more general database-oriented user group myself. Erik __

Re: Hello. Is anyone there?

On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 10:09 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote: I've had no email from gnhlug in over at least a month. Can anyone hear me? I hear you. There has been quite a lot of mail in the past 30 days or so -- I'd guess over 300 msgs. Don't forget you can always check the archives. http://

Re: OT from Tokyo

Erik Price wrote: Karl Hergenrother wrote: Sorry you were all so offended. I will go back to lurking. internet email great tool for conversation context sometimes lost Draft 2: wonders of email great tool for discussion, but context sometimes lost I should go into business. Erik

Re: OT from Tokyo

Karl Hergenrother wrote: Sorry you were all so offended. I will go back to lurking. internet email great tool for conversation context sometimes lost Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: HTML/CSS question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, "Ben" == [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben> I always keep a copy of the HTML and CSS spec's next to me. I Ben> find them remarkably readable, for specification documents. Ben> And, of course, they make excellent use of hypertext. :-) Pointer please

Re: HTML/CSS question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, "Erik" == Erik Price wrote: Erik> dt { float: left; margin: 3em } Erik> dd { margin: 5em; } Doh Thanks, I'm obviously just learning the CSS thing, and it didn't occur to me to re-define the dt/dd tags :) Except

Re: HTML/CSS question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, "Ben" == [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben> Have you tried the DL, DT, and DD tags? They are for Ben> definitions. (Definition List, Definition Term, and Definition Ben> Description, respectively.) Yes, they all seem to invoke a new line between e

Re: HTML/CSS question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, at 11:22am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, I want: Term:Some long description here which may or may not span multiple lines, but regardless, should be left justified. Have you tried the DL, DT, and DD ta

trains and toilets

After reading the parable (appendix C, Sconce's handout from Merrilug 6/25), I'm left puzzled by why mathematicians fail to see the point. Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: oo code in PHP5

On Monday, June 30, 2003, at 04:16 PM, Greg Rundlett wrote: I think so. Nice. I don't think it's all that bad to use an array of information vs a proper object (it's not that different from using structs in C), but if you're moving the language in that direction then why not take advantage of

Re: oo code in PHP5

On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 10:17 PM, Greg Rundlett wrote: It features a new Zend Engine 2, with a slew of object-oriented features previously unavailable in PHP. In effect, the object-oriented features were completely overhauled, however backward compatibility was maintained. Pretty cool. I

Re: Really enjoyed Bill Sconce's Python talk last night...

Hewitt Tech wrote: > It's been too long since I had the pleasure of hearing Bill Sconce deliver a > technical presentation. This was the first Bill Sconce presentation I had ever heard, and it was certainly a pleasure. I look forward to part II, after everyone has had a chance to run through

Re: [gnhlug-announce] Last minute reminder - MerriLUG meeting tonight

Greg Rundlett wrote: I was just about to ask if it was on. I will be there. Yeah Bill Sconce is discussing Python! Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: Data retrieval from dead laptop

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will it just not boot? I highly recommend getting a copy of Knoppix on CD and attempting to boot from that. My wife's laptop died not too long ago with a bad hard drive failure. I was able to boot off of CD with Knoppix, which correctly identified all the system h

Re: Stupid browser tricks

Michael O'Donnell wrote: Bookmarklets are way cool! Here are some more: http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets And some more by Kevin Smith, who calls them "favelets": http://centricle.com/tools/favelets/ Most are oriented toward assisting web developers in plying their craft. Erik

Re: Free brewing kit

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other than that, it's not bad. As for the price, well, it depends upon what you brew. I've left the place having spent $200 between the beer and bottles, and I've walked out for as little as $50. And I always leave with far more beer than I can drink! I still have

Re: Free brewing kit

Michael O'Donnell wrote: This is definitely OT but I'd be pleased to think that somebody in the GNHLUG was able to snag this stuff: You know, that might be a cool activity for a GNHLUG social. There's a beer-brewing place in Nashua, and you can do group-brews where corporate/religious/other

Re: CSS Question

Greg Rundlett wrote: Sitepoint is hawking a book on the subject, and will let you download the first four chapters. http://www.sitepoint.com/ Of course their site is done with minimal use of tables. I was extremely impressed with the sitepoint.com website makeover, it looks incredible but lik

Re: CSS Question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, anyone have any really good links for learning CSS? (Coles ref to w3schools already noted :) This one might be too basic/introductory for you, but it's very well-written and can at least cement the knowledge that you already -do- have. I found it very useful when

Re: CSS Question

Cole Tuininga wrote: As I understand, the "correct" way to do it now would be with style sheets. However, I can't seem to figure out the attribute to use. The closest I could find was "text-align", but that seems to only work on text (which does make sense). I've been using www.w3schools.com (

OT: Re: Humorously bizarre prohibition in RCN TOS

Kenny Donahue wrote: Hardware aka, MARK 13. Cheated. used the web. google and imdb.com I could use the extra life. Kenny args. Yep, I forgot to say that you can't use Google. But you're right, it was "Hardware". Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing li

Re: postgresql

Sharpe, Richard wrote: Erik I am a DBA and have been for over 20 years and my all time favorite RDBMS is DB2 and now especially that it runs on LINUX and that the LINUX flavor of DB2 is enjoying much attention from IBM, I think it is hands down better than Oracle. Thanks for your thought

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

Andrew W. Gaunt wrote: Well, the farmer awoke to find a nice fattened pig there one Sunday morning. He sure made a fine meal that evening. Wait, I don't understand -- did the other pig jump the farmer? That was a good plan, I bet that farmer never expected there were *two* pigs involved! Of

Re: postgresql

Cole Tuininga wrote: I agree that it has some great features, but when we looked into using it, we found some serious drawbacks to it. If anybody has comments on these, I'd be very interested to hear them. I don't have any comments except to say thanks for mentioning them Cole, because I didn'

Re: [gnhlug-announce] June Merrimack Valley Linux User Group meeting,6/25/03

David Long wrote: Our speaker will be Bill Sconce, who will give an introduction to Python. Go Bill! I like Python. I am definitely planning to be there, all else permitting. Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.g

Re: Humorously bizarre prohibition in RCN TOS

Michael O'Donnell wrote: In the page at http://www.rcn.com/customer/internet_access_agreemnt.php ...can be found this unexpected prohibition: (m) Scrolling. You agree not to cause the screen to "scroll" faster than other subscribers or users are able to type to it, or any action to a simil

Re: Palm/Linux Database

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to find an application(s) that would allow me to produce a database (s) for personal use, and to be able to access it from my Linux system, as well as some way to access it from my Palm Pilot. Anyone know of any such software available? I don't know of any

Re: PDA Suggestions

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal preference is anything PalmOS based. It's simple, well supported, and has all the features you requested. I have yet to see why anyone would *need* one of these Linux based PDAs. They seem like total overkill, and they're expensive. Word to that. I have

Re: Dvorak Predicts Death of Linux

On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 08:08 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:21:57 -0400 "Sharpe, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dvorak Predicts Death of Linux Dvorak is a schmuck. I'm not saying this just because of this prediction but also after having read some of his other articl

Re: SCO Thread that will never die (was Re: Maddog at work.)

Jason Stephenson wrote: I do think Bruce is right on when he mentions all the books having been published about UNIX internals and so on. I definitely don't think that SCO could stand on "trade secrets" for a second. That just reminded me of a book I read about one of the larger pre-Mitnick c

OT fried chicken

Jason Stephenson wrote: Entirely OT, I want to add that if you've never had real, southern fried chicken or ckicken fried in a pressure cooker, then you haven't had fried chicken. It's best, of course, if the bird was raised free range. The industrial stuff that you generally find in your sup

Re: Book swap?

On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 09:22 PM, Brian wrote: I have some books here, mostly of the 4ish-year-old vintage that I was wondering if anyone would be interested in? I'd preferably like to swap them for something (anything) even remotely useful/intriguing/interesting but am open to all suggesti

Re: SCO Thread that will never die (was Re: Maddog at work.)

On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 07:59 PM, Travis Roy wrote: Okay, I see a lot of this stuff about showing what code was copied.. Isnt' this a patent issue? If that's the case it doesn't matter if the code is copied, it only matters if it does the same thing. That's the way patents work. Even if s

Re: Maddog at work.

On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 04:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glanced at the cover of EE Times this week, and saw Maddog weighing in on the whole SCO thing. Check out the article (and picture) at http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20030527S0020 Thanks for posting that. Though the article doesn't

Re: AOL off the air?

Chris wrote: Michael O'Donnell wrote: I can't do any DNS lookups for any machines in any domain associated with AOL. I'd join you all in the unison chanting of "good riddance!" except that many of my relatives use AOL and all 4 nameservers for cnn.com are AOL machines. Any idea what's going on

Re: More SCO news

Tom Buskey wrote: Michael O'Donnell wrote: Bob: "Hope Rob don't say balls nasty." Rob: "-Balls- nasty!" Bob: "He don't shiv." I'll bet this is high-larious, 'cept fer I don't get it... ___ It's from "Batman: The Dark Knight Returns" by Frank Mi

Re: More SCO news

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: Wed, 28 May 2003 11:34:29 EDT Michael O'Donnell said: Bob: "Hope Rob don't say balls nasty." Rob: "-Balls- nasty!" Bob: "He don't shiv." I'll bet this is high-larious, 'cept fer I don't get it... Well, I wouldn't say high-larious... Mmmm, yeah. That

Re: More SCO news

Mark Komarinski wrote: In case you don't read slashdot. This is getting strange. Novell (remember them?) is getting into the picture. They claim that they never sold the copyrights/IP to SCO, only a license to use said copyrights/IP. http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2003/05/pr03033.h

Re: Bizarre bash problem

Kevin D. Clark wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh yeah, which is there, and it's an external command. Though it happens to be a 'csh' script, which is most likely the problem! Personally, as somebody who tries to use csh-derived shells as little as possible, and as somebody who uses many d

Re: Potential depletion of lumineferous electrons

Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Check out the CPAN. http://cpan.org/ Maybe my humor circuits have burned out, but... CPAN doesn't look a whole lot different to me today than usual. (Though my Wanda the Gnome Fish looks suspiciously dead...) Hm. They must have put the original page back up. For a whil

Re: Potential depletion of lumineferous electrons

Paul Lussier wrote: Memo: Potential depletion of lumineferous electrons From: Paul Reisenfern, Director Office of Health and Safety, Computer Division To:All Computer Users Date: 1 April 2003 As a result of recent studies carried out in cooperation with the National Science

[OT] Re: What Excites You?

On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 04:52 PM, Bill Sconce wrote: Philosophical: elmininating the possibility that the vendor of my favorite package may go out of business, leaving me stranded; or reposition a product, leaving me stranded; or someday require an expensive upgrade in order that I may c

Re: What Excites You?

Jon Hall wrote: Hi, I am writing a talk on "What Excites Me" about Linux. The object of this talk is to not only talk about the philosophical things that excites me, but honest to goodness "neat" programs. For example, gnomemeeting excites *ME* since it will allow me to videoconference with peo

Re: [OT] help w/ bitwise comparison operators

Derek D. Martin wrote: At some point hitherto, Erik Price hath spake thusly: Do you really have to convert the number to binary and then do a digit-for-digit comparison? Bear in mind that if this is for an exam, your prof will likely want to SEE the binary conversion of the two numbers. It

Re: [OT] help w/ bitwise comparison operators

Kevin D. Clark wrote: OK, now we're really splitting hairs, and I suspect that you mistyped anyways, but just to be clear, the logical operators work on any scalar type. For example, these are all legal in C: 1 && 2 2 && 3.14 2.718 && "hello" 'b' && &foo; Oh sorr

Re: [OT] help w/ bitwise comparison operators

Kevin D. Clark wrote: Erik Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The short circuit operators AND (&&) and OR (||) work just like their ^^^ regular counterparts except they stop evaluating once they "know&quo

Re: [OT] help w/ bitwise comparison operators

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you mind posting a summary of the helpful tips, tricks, and shortcuts sent your way? I'm rather interested in understanding this stuff a little better myself. Sure. In fact, they say you really know something well when you can explain it to someone else, and t

Re: [OT] help w/ bitwise comparison operators

Kevin D. Clark wrote: My advice: convert your numbers to binary for the exam, and know that in the Real World after school, people tend to let the computer do the work for them. But it *is* important for you to have this skill. Thanks Kevin, and to everyone else who gave me suggestions. I hav

Re: OT: Good (but probably controversial) tune

Kevin D. Clark wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So why are you not filtering on 'Subject.*[Oo][Tt]\s*:' ? If Mike did this, he would have missed out on Eric Price's "[OT] help w/ bitwise comparison operators" thread, which I think is sufficiently interesting to be discussed on this mailing li

[OT] help w/ bitwise comparison operators

Yeah, this is totally offtopic of Linux but I know there are some helpful hackers on this list and was wondering if anyone wouldn't mind letting me know if there is a mental trick to working out the results of bitwise comparison operators. Do you really have to convert the number to binary and

Re: OT: Good (but probably controversial) tune

Paul Iadonisi wrote: WARNING: You may love it, or you may hate it. I'm just sick of Clear Channel's monopoly and want to spread the access to this song and let people judge for themselves, instead of allowing the media mogul's to act as faulty filters for our

Re: Top posting

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regardless, AFAIK, all lists managed by MailMan add the following lines to the header: X-BeenThere: X-Mailman-Version: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive: I really like mailing lists that use MailMan and I think it's

Re: Top posting - was Re: sendmail vulnerability

lt of the ego of the OP being unwilling to take being corrected/criticized. Let's keep dragging this on. As such, I think public response is more efficient, and hence better. I agree. A little humility once in a while is good for the soul. Erik -- Erik Price email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabb

Re: For the newbies (book question)

Mark Komarinski wrote: Programming Perl (Wall, Christiansen, & Schwartz, O'Reilly) Excellent combination of tutorial and reference. I don't code in perl as much as I used to, but when I do, this book gets cracked open. I've been reading Programming Perl on and off in my free time. I'm g

Re: the book thing

Michael Bovee wrote: b) I grew up on Macintosh (groans from the peanut gallery :0) and so I expect to be able to get work done pretty quickly, and learn finer ways of doing things as I go. Hey me too. I only first used Unix in college because that's how you checked email. My first forays be

Re: For the newbies (book question)

them being better than any others -- after all, they're just computer books, right? How "good" can they be? Why not go for one of the biggest so I can get my money's worth and try to learn it all in one go... Erik -- Erik Price email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

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