Re: Accesses Denied

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 08:38 MST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Alan. That will help if something like this happens in the future. I presume that there is no way to get the information from any logs created in the past (Monday, to be exact). Too bad. The default seems

Re: I know it's dumb, but.......

2006-10-06 Thread Phil Smith III
Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described = in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix = yotta? How did octo get morphed to yotta? At least the derivation = of exa from hexa is fairly easy to see. Well,

Re: I know it's dumb, but.......

2006-10-06 Thread Steve Gentry
How one pronounces those URLs is left as an exercise for the reader (and the speaker's tongue). ;-) The 5(five) characters preceding the .HTML looks like something Bill the Cat would say. Steve G. would say. Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: a cautionary tale

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Pace, Mainline Information System
I converted from z/VM 5.1 to z/VM 5.2 Tuesday. Now my DFSMS RMM mounts are not working properly. I have both 3490 3590 drives in a 3494 ATL. In the RMM config I have the drives listed 580 - 581 3490 tapes 590 - 592 3590 tapes If I try to mount a tape, rmmastr will connect the first

CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - Agenda Change

2006-10-06 Thread Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts
The fourth quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, October 19, 2006. PLEASE NOTE: The second session has been changed. -- Meeting Location: This quarter's meeting will be held at the Hewitt Associates 'East Campus' located at 100

Re: I know it's dumb, but.......

2006-10-06 Thread Doug Breneman
I cannot take credit for this information. It was appended by Gerard. Here is his append: preceeded/followed by (not all of which are recognized by some countries and some have been depreciated): deka or deca D or Dk 10** 1 hectoH 10** 2 kilo

Re: Any one in the Boston Area using a VM/VSE Combination

2006-10-06 Thread Dodds, Jim
Hello Larry, I know you asked for the Boston area, but just in case you might need something. We are a VM/VSE shop and I would be willing to help when I am able to. Thanks Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. I was told this in no uncertain terms when I was doing testing using Hercules, and we were licensed for VM/ESA 2.4. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext.

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward M. Martin Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules Hello From the IBM stand, NO you can not run

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Steve Gentry
Don't forget DOS. Steve G. McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2006 10:42 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:Re: Question re: Hercules

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread McKown, John
Title: Message God knows that I've tried! --John McKownSenior Systems ProgrammerHealthMarketsKeeping the Promise of Affordable CoverageAdministrative Services GroupInformation TechnologyThis message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific

Re: Accesses Denied

2006-10-06 Thread Schuh, Richard
Our outbound mail is everything from mail to Outlook clients to automated pages and alerts. Since it originates in VM, it will still be allowed with the FORWARDMAIL YES. We are supposed to receive (note - I meant receive instead of accept, a subtle difference) no in-bound mail. The default

Re: Connecting MVS to VSE CICS ? Is this possible?

2006-10-06 Thread Rich Smrcina
Maybe not herculean, but it is an intricate process. Actually LU6.2 is the only way you can do this, since VSE does not provide a way to connect CICS systems via TCP/IP (I don't know about CICS on z/OS in that regard). l character wrote: Greetings: It concern an MVS site whom we are

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Steve Gentry
Ouch, oh, that hurt! McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2006 10:52 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:Re: Question re: Hercules God knows

DFSMS RMM - was, accidentally, Re: a cautionary tale

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Pace, Mainline Information System
Where are you doing the mounts from? Is this via the DFSMSRM command or via VGS for a VSE guest? Since you have two libraries, did you tell RMS and VGS about both libraries, and are you selecting the library on the mount command? I'm using DFSMSRM mount commands from my VM user id. I only have

Re: Connecting MVS to VSE CICS ? Is this possible?

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Pace, Mainline Information System
You can certainly connect VSE - MVS CICSs together. The tried and true LU6.2 POR TOR are the best bet. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Stephen P. Frazier
These and most of the other early software from IBM was released in both source and compiled form under a public domain license. This was before any of the open source licenses existed. When the courts told IBM they could not give away software, IBM came up with program products and started

DFSMS RMM - was, accidentally, Re: a cautionary tale

2006-10-06 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
I'm using DFSMSRM mount commands from my VM user id. I only have 1 library with multiple drive types. 1 Frame has a 3490 C2A drive, the other frame as 3 - 3590 drives. Hmm, okay, well the problem here is you have one library with two different drive types and specific volumes for each. When

Re: DFSMS RMM

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Pace, Mainline Information System
I'm using DFSMSRM mount commands from my VM user id. I only have 1 library with multiple drive types. 1 Frame has a 3490 C2A drive, the other frame as 3 - 3590 drives. Hmm, okay, well the problem here is you have one library with two different drive types and specific volumes for each. When

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 12:19 EST, Stephen P. Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBM's use of Linux is going back to where they started. Sorry, Stephen, but could you elaborate more on this? I'm not sure what you're driving at. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 12:19 EST, Stephen P. Frazier [EMAIL

Re: I know it's dumb, but.......

2006-10-06 Thread Schuh, Richard
In other references, I think that it is "deprecated" instead of "depreciated". To disapprove is somewhat different than to reduce in value or esteem. In regard to Phil's reference to SI, I think they carefully specify that their definitions apply only to the powers of 10. They have pushed

Re: I know it's dumb, but.......

2006-10-06 Thread Miguel Delapaz
Some Wikipedia articles relevant to this conversation: SI Prefixes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix Non-SI Prefixes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-SI_unit_prefix Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development

Re: TELNET to a 2074 - bad idea?

2006-10-06 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:39:14 -0400, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 11:57 EST, Brian Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] V wrote: Has anyone ever TELNET'ed to the port on a 2074 used for 3270 sessions ? (Yes, I know it's not supported.) I don't know what you mean, Brian.

Re: TELNET to a 2074 - bad idea?

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 01:05 EST, Brian Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the 2074 Console Support Controller Configurator Guide, Chapter 4, section 3270 Client support: The 2074 only supports TCP/IP attached clients which are running a Telnet TN3270E emulator program Since

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Stephen P. Frazier
When I started with computers in 1968, IBM sold very good hardware, gave away the software, and charged for education and support. They became rich on that model. Now, IBM is going to a model where they make good hardware (z9) that runs a free OS (Linux) very well and they charge for

Re: Accesses Denied

2006-10-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: Oh, sure, for users RICHARD and CHUCKIE it will happily do that, but not for anyone else. Unless fave beverages are left under the park bench, of course. Am I the only person who keeps hearing the first verse of Jethro Tull's Aqualung

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Edward M. Martin wrote: From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. I call BS on this statement. You can run VM/370r6 as much as you want. It is in the public domain. Adam

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Adam, Oh I think they just wanted me to stop running VM/ESA 2.4.0 and that was a period in time when lots of people were looking at the Hercules Boxes to Run everything and anything. Seems like a lost opportunity for IBM but as I understand it, IBM could not figure out a

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Edward M. Martin wrote: From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. Also, because it's Friday: Someone should teach those IBMmers the difference between can and may. Adam

JDBC and DB2/VM

2006-10-06 Thread Henry Wilusz
Hello Just a short question to see if anyone has gotten JDBC drivers on a windows machine to successfully access DB2/VM. We know that the drivers work with DB2/universal. but fail miserably with DB2/VM. DB2/VM is at version 7.2 The attempt to access DB2/VM returns a authorization failure

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 12:50 EST, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the fact that the original OS/360 and VM/370 were, like Linux, open source with a lot of community involvement in their development. Something that the z/... operating systems lack. I understand why, from IBM's

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Title: RE: Question re: Hercules But what good is PLX source if the PLX compileir is a national secret? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 3:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

The Daily WTF on mainframes

2006-10-06 Thread Phil Smith III
http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/94909.aspx OK, there are probably a few things wrong with the details, but it's at least plausible. And TDWTF is generally well worth reading... -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III (703) 476-4511 (home office) (703) 568-6662 (cell)

Re: I know it's dumb, but.......

2006-10-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 10/6/06, Miguel Delapaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non-SI Prefixes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-SI_unit_prefix Most of these also seem also in use as prefix in various diseases... Good thing they have a lot of spare ones. :soapbox. I am a little concerned that there still is the

Re: I know it's dumb, but.......

2006-10-06 Thread Tom Rae (WFF)
I always thought that 1024^n was right (powers of two and all that) and that hard drive manufactures choose 1000^n to make their wares look that much larger... Tom Rae Senior Director, Technical Services Western Canada Loblaw Companies Limited Information Systems Division Notice:

Re: I know it's dumb, but.......

2006-10-06 Thread Miguel Delapaz
Well, right depends on your perspective. I was speaking of right in terms of the general SI prefix standards. 1024^n was/is used to simplify our lives because we (computers) deal with powers of 2. Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: I know it's dumb, but.......

2006-10-06 Thread Schuh, Richard
If you stop o think about it, the use of theprefixes for decimal numbers predated the use for binaries by a long time. I doubt that you will find the usage for 1024^n until the second half of the 20th century. It is the 1024^n that is the latecomer to the party. In that sense, you are

Re: Any one in the Boston Area using a VM/VSE Combination

2006-10-06 Thread David Boyes
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Dodds, Jim Sent: Fri 10/6/2006 3:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any one in the Boston Area using a VM/VSE Combination Hello Larry, I know you asked for the Boston area, but just in case you

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello! Agreed! That's what I have here at the moment. There are other reasons, besides the obvious. Those individuals who would like to know why please feel free to contact me off list. Adam were you thinking of me when you posted that? -- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with

Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Oct 6, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Gregg C Levine wrote: Hello! Agreed! That's what I have here at the moment. There are other reasons, besides the obvious. Those individuals who would like to know why please feel free to contact me off list. Adam were you thinking of me when you posted that?