Lori, what are the differences between Dagur and Scooter, physically, and
how they act / react, emotions, etc.
Judy
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On 05/08/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How did you actually hitch the object to him?
Oh I see what you're asking...
When we actually are at a point where we are hitching something to
him, we would have a full set of harness on him. The harness would
include a breast collar, and from
For example, in this picture of Scooter in his Arizona Treeless saddle,
you can see that the saddle is level comparing the height of the pommel and
cantle, and that the seat itself is pretty level.
But you can't judge levelness only by comparing the height of the pommel
with the height of the
Great pictures. The one at the top could be on a calendar.
Nancy
Nicely done. Don't you just love having those nice agile riders available.
I have two boys lined up to ride Tosca in the next few weeks. I would like
to get her to the point where I can take over before school starts - after
Labor Day in Oregon. Nate is home schooled and promises to lead her
What a nice horse. You're right about taking lots of pictures. I decided
to make a scrapbook of the horses we have owned. For some horses, there
were only one or maybe two pictures and not good ones at that. One mare
(actually my first gaited horse) there's a picture with a newborn foal at
her
On 06/08/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not boring at all. Nice work.
We certainly take our time doing this stuff, but it's so hot, it's hard to
get in a hurry. I attached the 10-day forecast, and remember, these temps
include high humidity.
I hear you. The temperature was
Hi Judy,
The saddle may be level but IMO it is too far forward.
Robyn
Icelandic Horse Farm
Robyn Hood Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com
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http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D5E225EAA44DAB93
Boring stuff, I know, because we are slow...
No, that's good. The best way, without any drama or stress for the
horse.
Kim
what a shame someone trying to help animals threw the baby out with
the bathwater so to say, a lesson for us all... if we want to help
animals we have to keep our noses clean, be good people first, as good
as we can, we are all human and make mistakes... but we can lose all
effectiveness by
he is saying :
dear Jesus, I used to be a mighty stallion, now all I am is eye
candy, just a cheap thrill for all the mares. why oh WHY won't karen
buy me some viagra
melnie
--
yipie tie yie yo
On 8/3/07, Robyn Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This repetitive-ad-nauseum stuff seems to be a Lyons thing. I think
John Lyons claims that a horse needs to have some thing repeated 100
times before he will learn it. Maybe to get dead-bored from it. At
least he wasn't doing all that kissing
For example, in this picture of Scooter in his
Arizona Treeless saddle, you
can see that the saddle is level comparing the
height of the pommel and
cantle, and that the seat itself is pretty level.
Thank you. What an embarrasing picture with the
sheet. LOL
Happy Trails from Lorraine
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Oh gee, I am in California and its been 60 degrees at night and about eighty
to ninety during the day. Right now it's seven thirty and nippy. Sylvia
people around here are talking like thiswinter/next spring is gonna be
a hay shortage to end all hay shortages. I have been trying to be
creative and come up with some ideas for survival if need be. I have
a gas line easement at the end of my property outside my pasture and i
am going to plant
she is coming happy to see you :) thats awesome.
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
The wheel chair is going back tomorrow, so this was a last chance to expose
the horses to it:
http://iceryder.net/videocharmwheelchair.html
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
This is a video of a registered American Walking
Pony mare, for sale in So
California:
How pretty. I wish I could have 100 horses
Happy Trails from Lorraine
Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play
In this picture karen, Mac looks so much like Jaspar, so much like all
GBs offspring... and GB is Mack K Handshaker lines. Makes me just
wonder if Mack isn't related... and he was so tall! in the bottom pic
he could be jaspar's twin...
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
In this picture karen, Mac looks so much like Jaspar, so much like all GBs
offspring... and GB is Mack K Handshaker lines. Makes me just wonder if
Mack isn't related... and he was so tall! in the bottom pic he could be
jaspar's twin...
His registered name was Dana's Little Mac - and
On 06/08/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
people around here are talking like thiswinter/next spring is gonna be
a hay shortage to end all hay shortages.
Janice, what we have done during dry years is feed hay cubes. The
horses did great on them. The best part is they can take all
I would say Tiv is sweet as a puppy, but solemn and subdued. Nasi is
sweet as a puppy but a stinker.
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
The sand in my paddocks is so hot I can't walk in it barefooted.
Which begs the question, is it burning the horse's feet??! They have
shade to go in, but sometimes some are mean and wont let others under
the shelter. Curly for instance, he wont let GB under sometimes.
This is bothering me, to
Ok. I realize I bought a green horse. I got him away
from the corral. He was great. But I have a feeling
he use to tolt home. I just wanted to walk. In my
appinion a snaffle is worthless to slow or stop a
horse in my experience. Am I doing something wrong.
My wrists are so sore from
Scooter has a much bigger barrel. Dagur has a nicer
comformation I think. He is very round. I have to
use a block to mount him. Dagur is sweet as a puppy.
Scooter has some attitude but is also sweet. Is that
what you mean. I am still getting to know Dagur.
Yes. Good answer.
It's
Here are a few videos teaching head down.
I'd like to have a few more of Icelandics... if anyone is working on this,
or can get a video for us.
http://iceryder.net/videoheaddown.html
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
But you can't judge levelness only by comparing the height of the pommel
with the height of the pommel. You really are concerned with the
levelness
of the seat.
Yes, that's true, but it is an easy way to take a quick look to see if the
saddle is more on the balanced side, or more on the
Oh gee, I am in California and its been 60 degrees at night and about eighty
to ninety during the day. Right now it's seven thirty and nippy. Sylvia
It's been okay here too--highs mid-80s to 90, more humidity than usual
since we've started our monsoon season...got 1 1/2 rain last
Thurs--wow!
Hi Lorraine
What does IMO mean? How could it be too far forward.
He has a very short back?
IMO - short for in my opinion.
Yes he has a short back so that would indicate to me, that when the saddle
has to be set so far forward that the saddle is too long for him. It is
often the biggest
H Lorraine,
It was my understanding that Dagur was quite green when he was advertised so
it is likely that he doesn't understand the meaning and signals from the
bit. We usually ride with a sidepull first, then have them carry the bit
and still use the sidepull, or reins attached to the noseband
Or as in Gusti's case one winter, we didn't have harness, so we put
the surcingle on him, and then a nice padded western cinch went across
his chest, and from the cinch we attached some lines (no separator) to
either side of him and he dragged the kids and I on a toboggan while
one of us led
there is someone on the other list, Diane, she and I always share the
TWHBEA database. Its 60 bucks a year. I paid one year and gave her
the secret code, she paid the next, now its my turn again and i havent
done it yet. I will do it by next week hopefully then we can look him
up.
Which brings
In a message dated 8/6/2007 9:27:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That is good the rain, I mean. We usually get a tiny rain in August
sometime. Then we are dry until after Turkey day. We are in fire season now
and I
dred the Santa Ana winds. Glad your weather is
What is an American Walking Pony?
http://www.howard.k12.md.us/res/gaitedhorses/americanwalking.html
http://cowboyfrank.net/fortvalley/breeds/AmericanWalkingPony.htm
http://www.americanwalkingpony.org/
where is the video?
Video is here:
http://iceryder.net/princesswalkingpony.html
If it
why the heck do registries make you PAY for this?!?!? The paso fino
horses don't... anybody can go there and look up info, pedigrees etc.
for free! i mean, I can see why they would make you pay for copies of
stuff and when they have to research something, but the database should be
http://cowboyfrank.net/fortvalley/breeds/AmericanWalkingPony.htm
The merry walk...? That's a new one on me! Is that a generic term for
any soft gait?
Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC
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Do you ride with Carla? She can probably check it
if you ask her.
I heard you don't own a western. And I don't use that
saddle on Scooter. I have been using the Cheyenne for
about 9 months. I just put the saddle on him that day
when I first got it. Hence the sheet under it. It
was a
And Torsion makes the Island treeless saddles that have virtually
no cantle at all, with the intention of keeping the overall length of the
saddle short to work on short-backed horses.
Karen have you tried the Torsion Island? Does anyone have any comments
on that particular style? I have
--- Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
H Lorraine,
It was my understanding that Dagur was quite green
when he was advertised so
Sue rode him by himself all the time. I know we are
new to each other. I have no one to ride with right
now expecially because it is too hot. I haven't tryed
Even with non green horses I have never felt control
with a snaffle.
Happy Trails from Lorraine
Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the
Yahoo! Auto Green
They are a year apart, and have had very different
backgrounds. They are
similar in interest in new things, calmness; yet
different in bossiness
(Charm is the get along with everyone horse, Cha
Cha is the get out of my
way, I'm coming thru horse).
In that respect, Scooter is get
The postal worker asked the value of the letter, and I said,
Actually it has no intrinsic value, but it's priceless.
Good Luck Stephanie!
Hope Flea has is papers soon!
Cheryl
ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm
Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is often the biggest problems that I see with many western saddles on
Icelandics. This is a treeless saddle??
I think Lori's saddle in that picture is a Barefoot Arizona, and if so, yes,
it's treeless. I saw one once - a visitor brought one here. I intended to
try it on a couple of my
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/stories/s805364.htm
Is this intended for feeding meat-producing livestock or for horses...?
There's a quote in that article I immediately noticed that I'm not sure I
buy into: God never made animals to eat dry hay and grain, God made
animals to eat green feed
Well done, Judy.
Probably because we have four wheelchair users in our home, our horses seem
to have a non-reaction to the chairs.
However, when I took Stephanie to the boarding facility where Hunter lives
we got some pretty nice reactions. The majority of the horses there are
Arabs and
Of course you are not doing anything wrong. You have a green horse. The
response to the snaffle has to be pre-taught, preferably in a round pen or
other enclosed area. You probably wouldn't have the control you are looking
for with a rope halter or a sidepull either. Many endurance horses are
These aren't so much training videos, as us watching Svertla run off some
energy in the round pen. If you notice, no one is really asking her to move
much of the time, but she sort of got caught up in running down the side of
the round pen, parallel with the dogs in the backyard - or at least
Maybe we should trade? I can't imagine either of ours expending that
much energy, although Yrsa seems a little more energized than Tosca.
She is one of our more energetic Icelandic's. She's pretty calm and
sensible, so hopefully that will make for a nice balance and a fun horse- I
don't care
thats a good point Karen. here in NW fla deer eat acorns and lichens
etc. i find deer tracks in my pasture every day where they come in at
nite in ecstasy over a little grass. People bait up deer with sweet
feed and corn and they go nuts.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
I think Lori's saddle in that picture is a Barefoot
Arizona, and if so, yes,
it's treeless.
Yes it is treeless. It is almost just like a Cheyenne
except it has a horn. I think it might be a little
longer in back. It is really comtfy.
Happy Trails from Lorraine
Someone made the sensible suggestion that I take some panels out and make
mine round, but most of the time, it's more useful the size it is.
Originally, it was the size of a small dressage court. Then, in the years
when I wasn't actively riding, I let my husband have the nice flat spot for
a
Then that makes perfect sense about the saddle not
being used on Scooter.
Robyn
Exactly. No argument here. When I first started
riding along time ago I just threw a saddle on and
went. Who knew that they had to fit. Funny. But it
is true.
Happy Trails from Lorraine
In a message dated 8/6/2007 12:50:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Wanda, Is that a Sensation saddle? Sylvia
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--- Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I must have a thing about brown...
Wanda
Both pup and saddle are beautiful. Is that an ausie?
The pup that is. LOL Cute
Happy Trails from Lorraine
she's awesome! she wasnt a problem horse was she?? if so, hard to
believe. she is so much like charm, wanting to explore!--
yipie tie yie yo
On 8/6/07, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok. I realize I bought a green horse. I got him away
from the corral. He was great. But I have a feeling
he use to tolt home. I just wanted to walk. In my
appinion a snaffle is worthless to slow or stop a
horse in my experience. Am I doing
Not sure where you would have heard that from.
Robyn, Carla told me you were mainly into Eng. Thats
all.
Happy Trails from Lorraine
Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join
so you dont use a bit at all, or even a sidepull? Looks like a
special type of halter. Could I use a sidepull and try it with my
surcingle??
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
i dont have to worry about plenty of pics with jas, he is our first
child horse and the photos would fill up several truckloads I think.
I have tons of older pics of GB since he was jaspars sire i took pics
of him thru the years too even tho I didnt own him. as years go by i
take less and less
Karen,
Svertla has really turned out to be a beauty!!.
Renee
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Hi,
My name is Jackie. I have 2 paint 1/4horses that I rode basic
dressage before my baby was born. I do not show. I rode mostly for
the love of riding. I have owned horses for a very long time.
A friend of mine just sent me some pics from Swenden of these Iceland
ponies. Now, I am
I always hesitate to tell people how to use a
snaffle because sometimes they
end up sawing on their horse's mouth. But you
don't want to pull back
with both hands at the same time. I do more of a
hand-closing thing. Left
(briefly) right (briefly). See - I can't explain
it, but I love a
so best
not let him get away with even a little...
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
Thanks. That sounds good. It is work thought. I
didn't realize how much it would be. When I turn him
around he hard to get going the other way. When my
friend comes back for the winter it will be easier to
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Icelandic's - not that it's a bad thing. It's just
her.
That is so cool. Was she tolting? What a pretty
place you live. I get sick of cactus
Happy Trails from Lorraine
What is an American Walking Pony?
Interesting! I'd heard of them before, but was told that they were
simply a small-sized TWH--didn't know they were a combo of TWH and
Welsh. And Merry Walk--what a wonderful description of a gait!
Robyn S
To find the right bit fit how much should be hanging
out of the sides of their mouth? Any at all. I have
always been a hackamore girl. I am not sure if he
takes a 5 or a 41/2
Happy Trails from Lorraine
Hi
When I first started
riding along time ago I just threw a saddle on and
went. Who knew that they had to fit. Funny. But it
is true.
I think that, hopefully, most people could say if I knew a week, month,
year, 10 years ago, what I know now I would do things differently.
I have ridden
On 06/08/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so you dont use a bit at all, or even a sidepull? Looks like a
special type of halter. Could I use a sidepull and try it with my
surcingle??
Janice
It's an old cavesson. We havent' started Dagur in a bit much
yetso we're keeping it
On 06/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wanda, Is that a Sensation saddle? Sylvia
Yes it is. I can't believe you haven't seen it. I've probably sent
50 or 60 pictures of it :)...
Lori, yes, the pup is an Australian Shepherd. I guess she's our grand dog.
Wanda
On 8/6/07, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Janice,
The hay shortage in Florida is so sad, I have a friend in Oklahoma who has
so much hay they can't get cut all they have as they don't know where to
sell it to.
This is how it is for us here this year too. But a few years ago, I
was
That is neat. Is that your new horse. Or are you
just boarding Cha Cha. He or she is very pretty. I
want a pinto next time. Why are you working with the
wheel chair?
Happy Trails from Lorraine
There are still so many different opinions about
saddle fit, as there always
will be, but listening to the horse goes a long way
IME (in my experience).
I am really learning alot about it. Especially since
I have purchased Icelandics. Thanks for explaining
IME. I am learning all those
On 06/08/07, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks. That sounds good. It is work thought. I
didn't realize how much it would be. When I turn him
around he hard to get going the other way. When my
friend comes back for the winter it will be easier to
work with him
You know Lori,
On 06/08/07, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To find the right bit fit how much should be hanging
out of the sides of their mouth? Any at all. I have
always been a hackamore girl. I am not sure if he
takes a 5 or a 41/2
Take a lead rope and pop it in his mouth, and hold it on either side
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--- Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just wanted to walk. In my
appinion a snaffle is worthless to slow or stop a
horse in my experience. Am I doing something wrong.
My wrists are so sore from slowing him down.
Try not to give him anything to pull against.
Sometimes I have to
I think there is a bit-measuring goodie out there. Someone probably knows.
Our Icelandics use a 4 1/2 and a 4 3/4. A 5 would be too wide for them.
If you took English lessons, then you know that when the snaffle is too
wide, it has even more of the nutcracker action that people complain of.
Wanda - you're so smart!
Nancy
Judy, what did I do wrong? I got a page full of what is not exactly
programming language, but isn't anything that would allow me to subscribe to
anything.
Nancy
I think there is a bit-measuring goodie out there. Someone probably
knows. Our Icelandics use a 4 1/2 and a 4 3/4. A 5 would be too wide for
them. If you took English lessons, then you know that when the snaffle is
too
wide, it has even more of the nutcracker action that people complain of.
Lori, yes, the pup is an Australian Shepherd. I guess she's our grand dog.
You're getting behind, Wanda. Cary and I already have three granddogs: Kelsey,
Stella, and Annie. Kelsey is the new little fluff ball in the pictures from
yesterday. She's a Maltipoo. (I can't believe I just
To find the right bit fit how much should be hanging
out of the sides of their mouth? Any at all. I have
always been a hackamore girl. I am not sure if he
takes a 5 or a 41/2
Icelandic heads are sometimes small, sometimes large!
I don't think there's a general rule about what size bit
Here's our IceHorses Community, for photos and videos:
http://kickapps.com/icehorses
The video that's currently on that home page, is of me visiting a friend's
Icelandic Horse.
Please feel free to join the community and upload some pictures and videos.
Nancy, Stephanie can have her own
Ok, this is really getting boring, so please don't feel you have to watch
these. I just noticed that Cary made a few short videos of Maja's first
ride - just before he took the series of still pictures yesterday. I'm
making a whole video log of her progress, to save to review next winter when
Thank you.
Nancy
On 06/08/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're getting behind, Wanda. Cary and I already have three granddogs:
Kelsey, Stella, and Annie. Kelsey is the new little fluff ball in the
pictures from yesterday. She's a Maltipoo. (I can't believe I just admitted
that!) Stella is a
Subscribe to the icehorses videos (my videos):
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Judy, I just got a page of HTML code when I clicked on that link...?
Another way to subscribe is to go to one of Judy's videos, like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9bG1tqKbwmode=usersearch=
Subscribe to the icehorses videos (my videos):
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Judy, I just got a page of HTML code when I clicked on that link...?
What browser are you using? Donna said the same thing, but she was using IE
6. I usually use Firefox, but I opened IE
What browser are you using? Donna said the same thing, but she was
using IE 6.
I use IE6.
Probably IE 6 doesn't have the RSS capabilities as the updated versions.
Try Firefox, it's free and is supposed to have less vulnerabilities than IE:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
Judy
Try Firefox, it's free and is supposed to have less vulnerabilities than
IE:
Oh no! I just spent the afternoon deleting stuff off my hard drive. I
don't have room to load one more package! (I had Firefox, but it had to
go.)
Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC
No virus found in this outgoing
Try Firefox, it's free and is supposed to have less vulnerabilities
than
IE:
Oh no! I just spent the afternoon deleting stuff off my hard drive. I
don't have room to load one more package! (I had Firefox, but it had to
go.)
Well, then, you'll have to update IE!
:-)
Judy
Oh come on you guys - I not only have a grandhorse, I have two great
grandhorses.
Nancy
By Kathy:I would like to encourage people to feed hay by weight. Get a
little
infant scale and weigh your hay each time you feed. I buy hay from the
same grower every year and I can tell you that every single bale is a
bit different in weight, even from the same cutting.
If I'm feeding 7 lbs
The Eyes of the Horse
by Linda Tellington-Jones
TTEAMT Connections July-September, 2005
The eyes of a horse have a special message that give clues to the
personality of the individual. It has been said that the eye of a horse is
the window to the soul. I believe this is true. I look for
You know Lori, another thing you can do is you can
ride him, while a
friend or your hubby comes along for a walk on the
ground. The person
on the ground can help set the pace on the way home.
Nice try Wanda. My husband??? Scofff. I love him
but he expects me to take care of the horse
That's right. You don't want a bit so narrow that
it rubs the corners of
the mouth, but if it's too wide, the edges won't be
supported by the bars,
Should I try the lead rope thing?
Happy Trails from Lorraine
wide, it has even more of the nutcracker action that
people complain of.
Nancy
Nancy, What is the nutcracker effect? Dumb question
I am sure. That must mean it pinchs right?
Happy Trails from Lorraine
Take a lead rope and pop it in his mouth, and hold
it on either side
I measured the bit that came withScooter. It is a 5.
But that bit I didn't like. It was hard to stop him
too. Must be me. Oh man..
Happy Trails from Lorraine
Do you have different size bits to try in his
mouth?
For a snaffle, I would suggest a double jointed
mouthpiece (not the single
jointed), something like a french link (not Dr.
Bristol), eggbutt or D-ring.
I have about 20 bits. I like to try everything.
Also like to shop. I have a
Ah - what a great article. I have an off-track Standardbed that has the
saddest eyes I have ever seen. He is twelve years old and I know of eight
owners. There could have been more. Right now a friend is riding him while
her horse heals. He searches for my face when we are out riding and
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