Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

. 2. defining the bindings for Spotter can indeed be made to override the ones in the text editor if needed. But, I think we can start thinking about using #alt. Does this make sense? Cheers, Doru > On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-06-16 22:45

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

or anything else than text is not so nice. However, on Mac we could use Ctrl. To this end, we could introduce a secondaryMeta that maps like this: - Mac: Ctrl - Win: Alt - Linux: Alt What do you think? Doru > Cheers, > Henry > >> On 17 Jun 2016, at 2:35 , Tudor Girba wrote: &g

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi Nicolai, > On Jun 17, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-06-17 14:35 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi Nicolai, > > I am a bit removed from the code details at the moment, and I think I need to > step back a bit :). > > If I understand co

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

ote: > > > > 2016-06-17 18:25 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi Nicolai, > > > On Jun 17, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-06-17 14:35 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > Hi Nicolai, > > > > I am a bit removed from t

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Methods with more than 15 args sketch

Hi, Does anyone want to pick this up on the Pharo image side? I took a brief look at this and while playing I noticed that the errors when we send more than 15 arguments seem a bit strange. Take a look at this snippet: http://ws.stfx.eu/958BXP5GR136 (you can paste it in Spotter to get the playgr

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Methods with more than 15 args sketch

Hi, > On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 19 Jun 2016, at 11:35, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone want to pick this up on the Pharo image side? >> >> I took a brief look at this and while playing I

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Methods with more than 15 args sketch

Hi, > On Jun 20, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 20 Jun 2016, at 08:58, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 19 Jun 2016, at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Code-Icons in the "message" browser

Thanks! Doru > On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Hi, > > The “message” (should be “method”) browser (which shows methods on “senders > of” or “implementors of” > now shows editor-icons: > > > > BreakPoints are not yet fully working, but that should be easy to fix. > (t

[Pharo-dev] bloc status update: june 2016

Hi, Here is a brief update on the status of Bloc. Several of us came together to form a team and work to see Bloc in Pharo 6 at least as a preview. The team communication happens via Slack in a dedicated team, and the goal is to have regular progress/feedback communication on this mailing list

Re: [Pharo-dev] bloc status update: june 2016

l the classes I can see have no class comments (See > screenshot below). Is there a 'No class comment' policy in Bloc ? Or maybe > the top classes shown are just non representative of the class comments of > the overall framework. > > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Better #haltOnce: per haltOnce state, auto-enable

Awesome! Doru > On Jun 21, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Hi, > > Another small iteration: now you can mouse over the Icon of #halOnce and > #haltOnCount: and the > current state is displayed (if the haltOnce is active, the count of the > #haltOnCount:). > > this is in 60 up

Re: [Pharo-dev] bloc status update: june 2016

ny day. > > > > Wish you good luck in your effort and thank you for trying to make Pharo > > better , I may be annoyed with the Pharo documentation problem, but that > > does not mean I dont appreciate the efforts to improve Pharo. > > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2

Re: [Pharo-dev] Easy to use execution counter with Icon in Editor

He he! I love these goodies. Doru > On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Hi, > > In the 60#103 there will be a new kind of “Watcher”: an execution-counter. > > Using the “suggestion” menu one can add a counter to any AST node. > After, the editor shows a (c) Icon. Mouse over

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 90d82f: 60103

It only took 8 years or so :) Doru > On Jun 21, 2016, at 11:02 PM, stepharo wrote: > > Hourray!! > > Object has no name :) > > Stef > > > Le 21/6/16 à 18:02, GitHub a écrit : >> 60103 >> 18554 Update SystemCommandLineHandler dependencies >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/185

Re: [Pharo-dev] Easy to use execution counter with Icon in Editor

Hi, > On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > He he! I love these goodies. > > > Yes, me too. This little things make the "IDE" look more "proffesional" an

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Methods with more than 15 args sketch

Hi, > On Jun 20, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Clément Bera wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > […] > Isn’ t that what the mail of clement was all about? To change the compiler to > emit code according to the proposed scheme? > > > I think the question Tudor asked is:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Reordering working directory mess

Hi, > On Jun 23, 2016, at 10:18 PM, stepharo wrote: > > What is the difference between play-cache play-stash - play-cache is populated automatically when you work in the playground. - play-stash stores only the pages that you gave concrete names to. You can double click on the tab with the nam

Re: [Pharo-dev] Having comments for pragma?

Hi, That is my proposal as well: introduce a first class entity that describes a Pragma instance. Who would be interested to play with this? Cheers, Doru > On Jun 27, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > >> On 27 Jun 2016, at 10:36, Denis Kudriashov wrote: >> >> Hi. >> >> In J

Re: [Pharo-dev] Having comments for pragma?

g here would be that all Pragma instances with a certain selector should reference the same PragmaType. Cheers, Doru > On Jun 27, 2016, at 12:34 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > > 2016-06-27 12:12 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > That is my proposal as well: introduc

Re: [Pharo-dev] Having comments for pragma?

ke that we didn't j tricycle a specific meta object, > with all the additional tools that implies, and instead stick to the > minimalist and parsimony of the original design and use pragmas to comment > pragmas. > >> Cheers, >> Doru > > Thanks for reading.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Having comments for pragma?

Hi Eliot, I will get back to this email after tomorrow. I need a bit of time to put an answer together. Cheers, Doru > On Jun 27, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > Hi Doru, > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 6:36 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Eliot, > > I agree

Re: [Pharo-dev] Having comments for pragma?

Sarcasm never really works on mailing lists :) Doru > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > > On Jun 28, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > >> Following this "bad idea" we should agree that smalltalk metaclass system is >> horrible and class should be just a lan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Having comments for pragma?

Hi, > On Jun 27, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > Hi Doru, > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 6:36 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Eliot, > > I agree with most things you say (except the conclusion :)), and I think that > we are talking about complementary issues.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Having comments for pragma?

Hi, Ok, great. I will play with this. Cheers, Doru > On Jul 7, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > Hi Doru, > >> On Jun 30, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: >&

Re: [Pharo-dev] changing compiled byte arrays

Thanks, indeed! Doru > On Jul 10, 2016, at 7:28 PM, stepharo wrote: > > thanks for all the energy you put in getting non mutable objects. I will > bring a nicer system. > > Stef > > Le 10/7/16 à 12:06, Clément Bera a écrit : >> Allright. But the problem happens for any literal you mutate, n

Re: [Pharo-dev] bloc status update: june 2016

Hi, That is one of the variables we have on the radar. Whether we can make it in the first iteration, remains to be seen. Cheers, Doru > On Jul 12, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Sean P. DeNigris wrote >> A test case for this, which opens up many exciting possibilities (imagin

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is the correct way to create new integration configuration?

Thanks a lot, Juraj! Doru > On Jul 13, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Juraj Kubelka wrote: > >> >> 13. 7. 2016 v 9:32, Marcus Denker : >> >> >>> On 13 Jul 2016, at 14:46, Juraj Kubelka wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am working on a new configuration for GTools. >>> >>> What is the correct way to inte

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Remote debugging tools

Great news. Thanks, Denis! Doru > On Jul 18, 2016, at 5:03 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > I glad to release first version of RemoteDebuggingTools project. It allows > explore and debug remote images. > > You can read details at > http://dionisiydk.blogspot.fr/2016/07/remote-debugging-tools

Re: [Pharo-dev] A taste of bootstrap

Amazing work! It looks so trivial, but when you know what it took to get here … really, great work. Thanks! Doru > On Jul 24, 2016, at 11:03 PM, stepharo wrote: > > >> 2016-07-22 15:12 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek : >> From the Pharo/Squeak point of view this image is very special because it >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Accept in Debugger Meltdown in Pharo 5.0

Hi, I never encountered it, and there was no report about this either. So, could you describe what you did in more details? Cheers, Doru > On Jul 26, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > > > Mac spinning beachball

Re: [Pharo-dev] Doubled setting for now showing catalog projects in Spotter

Hi Torsten, Thanks for raising this up. Indeed, this requires a bit of a discussion. The “ugly” settings are not a hack, but they are indeed not well presented and explained :). We already had an issue with this (https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18472/GTSpotter-settings-are-unusable), but we

Re: [Pharo-dev] Accept in Debugger Meltdown in Pharo 5.0

> On Jul 27, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-07-27 2:58 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > Tudor Girba-2 wrote > > So, could you describe what you did in more details? > > What details would help? > > > - the image version > - th

Re: [Pharo-dev] Accept in Debugger Meltdown in Pharo 5.0

That is not good. Did it happen repeatedly, or only once? Do you remember the situation? Cheers, Doru > On Jul 27, 2016, at 8:49 AM, stepharo wrote: > > I know that christophe and me got it too. > > Stef > > > Le 26/7/16 à 19:00, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Accept in Debugger Meltdown in Pharo 5.0

gt; seen the problem again and after trashing 3 or 4 rebuilds, I was able to code > my way out of the problem and haven't seen it since > > Dale > > [1] http://forum.world.st/Empty-debugger-Pharo-5-0-td4907374.html > > > On 7/27/16 1:20 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: &g

Re: [Pharo-dev] Accept in Debugger Meltdown in Pharo 5.0

Thanks. It is important. Doru > On Jul 28, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Tudor Girba-2 wrote >> So, could you describe what you did in more details? > > I think it had to do with the combination of [messing with Magritte > internals] + [Magritte GT int

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc, Bloc 2 and Brick

Hi, We are still in exploration mode with respect to design and this is why you see several internal names. We expect to have a clear structure within a couple of weeks, and there will be an announcement on that. In the end, there will be exactly one single Bloc and one single Brick. Cheers, D

Re: [Pharo-dev] let's talk about themes (and GLMBrickThemer)

Hi, I will take a look at this tomorrow and get back to you. Cheers, Doru > On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > >> On 02 Aug 2016, at 08:59, stepharo wrote: >> >> Hi esteban >> >> It looks cool. For the error could you use a different one because I cannot >> read it

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi, > On Aug 3, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-06-18 23:34 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess : > > > 2016-06-18 20:55 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > Command is an actual key on Mac next to Option(which is Alt) and Control. So, > Comm

Re: [Pharo-dev] ifTrue ifFalse shortcuts

Hi, Yes. Both of those commands are in use: - Cmd+t = suggestions - Cmd+f = search I think these types of inserts should not have simple bindings because we are asking for trouble. cheers, Doru > On Aug 3, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > Any objections on using > cmd+t / cmd+f f

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stable configuration of PetitParser broken for stable PetitGui in Pharo 5

Hi, Thanks for the report. PetitParser was not yet released for Pharo 5. It comes in the following days as part of the Moose release. Cheers, Doru > On Aug 4, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Martin McClure wrote: > > Loading PetitGui with this expression: > > --- > Metacello new > configuration: 'PetitP

Re: [Pharo-dev] when Cmd-P can just display a string in the debugger

Hi Stef, We had a thread on that two months ago, and it is still waiting for your answer. I made concrete proposals on which bindings can work. It would be more constructive to focus on those details (see more below). First, one thing should get clarified. The case in which someone wants to pri

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi, > On Aug 3, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-03 10:02 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > > On Aug 3, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-06-18 23:34 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess : > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] when Cmd-P can just display a string in the debugger

t 3:57 PM, Dale Henrichs > wrote: > > > > On 8/7/16 6:16 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> Hi Stef, >> >> >> That is why we made the default printing not affect the text editor, and >> this feature is around since almost 2 years and, except of you, there

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi, > On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-07 15:23 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > > > On Aug 3, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-08-03 10:02 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > H

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for preferences to move the debugger buttons

Hi Stef, I never explained anyone how they do not understand something :). When I try to explain something, I mostly try to explain how I reason and the kinds of constraints I considered so that others can find what is wrong. Related to your issue, there is no preference currently. Interestingl

Re: [Pharo-dev] when Cmd-P can just display a string in the debugger

Hi, > On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> Hi Stef, >> >> We had a thread on that two months ago, and it is still waiting for your >> answer. I made concrete proposals on which bindin

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-07 16:23 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > > On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-08-07 15:23 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > Hi, >

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi, > On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:16 PM, stepharo wrote: > >>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Henrik Johansen >>> wrote: >>> >>> #alt_meta ? >>> - Maps to alt on OSX, ctrl on Win/Linux. >>> - Can only bind either #meta or #alt_meta + key, or both must bind to same >>> action. >>> - Can only be applie

[Pharo-dev] strange errors in jenkins jobs

Hi, Since yesterday, all Moose-related jobs are failing. These are built on top of Pharo 5.0 stable, downloaded like this: wget --quiet -O - http://get.pharo.org/50+vm | bash We did not change anything in the projects that fail, and locally on Mac, I can load any of the code without problems. T

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi, > On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:15 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-07 19:58 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > > On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-08-07 16:23 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > Hi, >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: strange errors in jenkins jobs

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 11:10 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-07 22:36 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > Since yesterday, all Moose-related jobs are failing. These are built on top > of Pharo 5.0 stable, downloaded like this: > wget --quiet -O - htt

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for preferences to move the debugger buttons

Hi, There is an open issue for this: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18020/Shortcut-keys-in-GTDebugger-should-be-user-assignable Cheers, Doru > On Aug 8, 2016, at 4:20 AM, Hilaire wrote: > > > > Le 08/08/2016 à 09:44, Dale Henrichs a écrit : >> I didn't realize that there were tooltips fo

Re: [Pharo-dev] I'm annoyed because...

Hi Dale, Thanks for the time to report! Indeed, it is a known problem. Here is the explanation, which is not an argumentation of why this is a good behavior. Before, syntax highlighting had its own mechanism, including parser and internal representation. In Pharo 5, we decided to unify the m

Re: [Pharo-dev] DNU with GT Debugger

Hi, Thanks for the report. Do you happen to have an image around? Doru > On Aug 9, 2016, at 11:47 AM, stepharo wrote: > > While trying to debug pillar I got a DNU when clicking on the raw pane (when > the items was selected) > > DNU: > > presentation rawSelection is aLinkedList and it does

Re: [Pharo-dev] DNU with GT Debugger

> Hi doru > > > I sent you a drop box where you just have to click to repeat the problem. > > Let me know if this is enough. Else I should send you more scripts and files. > > Stef > > > Le 9/8/16 à 12:07, Tudor Girba a écrit : >> Hi, >> >&

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi, > > Hey Doru, > about what "two issues" are we talking? My only issue for now is, > what shortcut shold we use for moving the cursor forward/backward word. Even > if we introduce a new layer, at some point in time you need to > define: If the user types the CTRL+LEFT -key, even if we call

Re: [Pharo-dev] request for improvements in GTInspector or debugger

Hi, In which presentation are you? As Sven said, you can browse by clicking on the top right icon of the next pane. You can also browse right in place with the Meta presentation from the next pane. Also, if you are in the Raw view, you get the browse menu for an instance variable. However, th

Re: [Pharo-dev] let's talk about themes (and GLMBrickThemer)

ey do it in JavaFX? > I agree also that we should extract the Palette. > Now I'm really curious to see the CSS of Glenn in Bloc2. > Stef > > Le 4/8/16 à 12:52, Tudor Girba a écrit : >> Hi Esteban, >> >> Sorry for the delayed response. >> >> There

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi, > On Aug 9, 2016, at 10:48 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-09 18:12 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > > > > Hey Doru, > > about what "two issues" are we talking? My only issue for now is, > > what shortcut shold we use for m

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi, > On Aug 9, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-09 22:53 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > > On Aug 9, 2016, at 10:48 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-08-09 18:12 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > Hi, &g

Re: [Pharo-dev] request for improvements in GTInspector or debugger

Hi Stef, I agree with what you say in this mail, and I am not sure where this is not the case. And I also do not understand how this relates to the previous message which was about manipulating the list of items (I guess in a collection). Nobody argues that you have to go through Spotter if you

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

lai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-09 23:36 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > > On Aug 9, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-08-09 22:53 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > Hi, > > > > > On Aug 9, 2016, at 10:

Re: [Pharo-dev] request for improvements in GTInspector or debugger

2:00 Christophe Demarey : > Hi, > > > Le 10 août 2016 à 14:11, Tudor Girba a écrit : > > > > Hi Stef, > > > > I agree with what you say in this mail, and I am not sure where this is not > > the case. > > > By example, it is not available in a Stri

Re: [Pharo-dev] request for improvements in GTInspector or debugger

tring, it > won’t be useful as we can already use the raw presentation. > >> Le 12 août 2016 à 06:22, Tudor Girba a écrit : >> >> Hi, >> >> Nice one. >> >> But, I do not want to change the default text presentation. Instead I would >> a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interrupting process which hangs on recursion

Very cool analysis! What would your proposal be in this case? Doru > On Aug 13, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > We had discussion on reasons why cmd+. is not always working. > I made simple test which shows that VM is not issue. Following code normally > stops after 20 seconds

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interrupting process which hangs on recursion

Hi, > On Aug 14, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Max Leske wrote: > > Awesome Denis! > >> On 13 Aug 2016, at 10:54, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> Very cool analysis! >> >> What would your proposal be in this case? > > Some ideas: > > - perform logging

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] [ANN] Release of Agile Visualization

Great work! Doru > On Aug 14, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: > > Dear Colleagues and Friends, > > It is a great pleasure to announce the release of Agile Visualization. Agile > Visualization is a book about the Roassal Visualization engine. > > Paperback, eBook (PDF), and a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interrupting process which hangs on recursion

is a user log? > > Stef > > > Le 14/8/16 à 09:24, Tudor Girba a écrit : >> Hi, >> >>> On Aug 14, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Max Leske wrote: >>> >>> Awesome Denis! >>> >>>> On 13 Aug 2016, at 10:54, Tudor Girba wrote: >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTPlayground/Inspector print it

Hi, The main goal of the "print it” action is to expose printString (not asString). It certainly can be conceivable to show different representations in the popup window, but right now, there is no mechanism for this. As Clement says, printString can have all sorts of usages, so until we have s

Re: [Pharo-dev] About PythonDocTest for Pharo

Hi, I like this problem very much. I think we are not leveraging the objects we have in the image. Tests can help, but they are way too disconnected from the code and they are not really useful for detailed questions. I am also happy that you are considering the use of pragmas for this purpose.

Re: [Pharo-dev] About PythonDocTest for Pharo

Hi, > On Aug 18, 2016, at 2:41 PM, stepharo wrote: > > Hi doru > > >> Hi, >> >> I like this problem very much. I think we are not leveraging the objects we >> have in the image. Tests can help, but they are way too disconnected from >> the code and they are not really useful for detailed qu

Re: [Pharo-dev] /

Hi, I am happy to see the concept of an example method catching attention again. As explained before, the GTExample was already present in the Pharo image, but it was introduced more as a helper for testing GT extensions. Now, I just created an issue for removing GTExamples from the GT-Inspecto

Re: [Pharo-dev] /

Hi, I strongly believe that the interaction should not be hardcoded in the example pragma name. That is because you will want all sorts of interactions once you go beyond the surface. For example, a Roassal visualization, a Bloc element, and a Morph are all interesting from an interaction point

Re: [Pharo-dev] /

ifferent pragma. That will quickly lead to an explosion of pragmas. Cheers, Doru > On Aug 19, 2016, at 10:32 AM, stepharo wrote: > > > > Le 19/8/16 à 10:18, Tudor Girba a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I strongly believe that the interaction should not be hardcoded in

Re: [Pharo-dev] /

Hi, > On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:55 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-19 23:13 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > If you attache a certain action such as "result openInWorld” to a pragma such > as , it implies that when I have a different resulting > o

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

Hi Nicolai, Did we clarify this issue? Is there something else I can help (or maybe to disturb/annoy :)) with ? Cheers, Doru > On Aug 10, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Oh man :). Ok I think got it now. Thanks for the patience. I see the > confusion: the agreement was

Re: [Pharo-dev] /

Hi, > On Aug 20, 2016, at 12:22 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-20 0:02 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > > On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:55 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-08-19 23:13 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > Hi

Re: [Pharo-dev] /

Hi, > On Aug 20, 2016, at 1:29 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-20 0:26 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > > On Aug 20, 2016, at 12:22 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-08-20 0:02 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > Hi, &g

Re: [Pharo-dev] /

Hi, > On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:12 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-20 18:29 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > > > On Aug 20, 2016, at 1:29 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-08-20 0:26 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > > Hi,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Beta of Mooc webportal

This is great news. Thanks a lot for this effort! Doru > On Aug 20, 2016, at 3:24 PM, stepharo wrote: > > Hi > > I published a new version of the webportal (a packaged version of the mooc) > with the help of thibault. Now I'm about to test that all the videos have > indeed the correct subt

[Pharo-dev] websockets in pharo?

Hi, Can anyone tell me if there is a Websocket implementation for Pharo? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."

[Pharo-dev] [ann] GTExamples alpha

Hi, Over the last coupe of years Stefan Reichhart and the rest of the GT team worked on an implementation of examples. The work is inspired from previous work done by Markus Gaelli and Adrian Kuhn. As one of the goals of GT is to offer a live programming environment, one important issue is how

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

Hi, There exists already a method for that: Symbol>>asClassInEnvironment: But, what if we introduce: Symbol>>asClassFrom: anObject ^ self asClassInEnvironment: anObject class environment ? This would allow us to still script and be dynamic. Furthermore, as #asClass is meant to

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

Hi, Thanks Stef for the reply. I completely concur. @Hernán: About the issues with GT: please do get in touch. We have asked for it several times, and we are still here. If you have concrete issues, please raise them but focus on how to improve concretely. At the same time, also keep in mind t

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

Hi, > On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:52 AM, stepharo wrote: > > >> Hi, >> >> There exists already a method for that: >> Symbol>>asClassInEnvironment: >> >> But, what if we introduce: >> >> Symbol>>asClassFrom: anObject >> ^ self asClassInEnvironment: anObject class environment >> >> ? > Th

[Pharo-dev] [ann] Lam Research evaluates Pharo

ntrol system for a broad range of the equipment it manufactures. Tudor Girba is a leading member of the tools and environment development effort in Pharo, having architected the Glamorous Toolkit for live programming. Eliot Miranda is author of the Cog virtual machine that underlies Pharo and

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem with Epicea and #name

Hi Martin, Thanks a lot for the quick response. As Andrei said, please do not feel sorry. Epicea is an important new core component and just because it is a core one every tiny error will appear as a large problem. But, we are all humans here, and it should be expected that we make errors :).

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

Hi, > On Aug 25, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Gour wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:05:45 +0200 > stepharo wrote: > >> Yes but we cannot do much > > OK. I got it...do you believe it makes sense for a noob to create acount > in case there are some low-hanging fruits to pick? It definitely does! We are

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

Hi, > On Aug 25, 2016, at 10:10 PM, stepharo wrote: > Hi, There exists already a method for that: Symbol>>asClassInEnvironment: But, what if we introduce: Symbol>>asClassFrom: anObject ^ self asClassInEnvironment: anObject class environment >

Re: [Pharo-dev] problem with Epicea and #name

Hi, > On Aug 25, 2016, at 10:03 PM, stepharo wrote: > > > > Le 25/8/16 à 14:10, Tudor Girba a écrit : >> Hi Martin, >> >> Thanks a lot for the quick response. >> >> As Andrei said, please do not feel sorry. Epicea is an important new core &

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] GTExamples alpha

Hi Nicolai, Thanks a lot for the feedback. Please let’s continue. See more inline. > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-25 8:47 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > Hi Doru, > some questions and feedback ( I am sorry for my tone or if

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] GTExamples alpha

/moose/job/gtoolkit/5595/artifact/gtoolkit.zip Cheers, Doru > On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:40 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi Nicolai, > > Thanks a lot for the feedback. Please let’s continue. See more inline. > >> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

Hi, > On Aug 26, 2016, at 6:37 AM, stepharo wrote: > > Thanks doru. > > I do not like when people think that we are complaining just because > something changes. > > It should change for the better and we all agree on that. Certainly. There are many points of view and many constraints. Thi

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

urrent issue. So, we agree that: - move asClass together with all other in a separate package. - introduce deprecation. I created an issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18987/Extract-asClass-and-friends-in-a-separate-package-and-deprecate Doru > Esteban > >> >&g

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

You should search for it on GitHub :) Metacello new baseline: 'Iceberg'; repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg'; load Cheers, Doru > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: > > Hi all! > > I would like to give a try to Iceberg. > > I have no idea

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

Yes, but it is still under development :) Doru > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: > > But it could be on the catalog right? > :-) > > Alexandre > > >> On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> You should se

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] TaskIt v0.2

Great news & great work! Doru > On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Guille Polito wrote: > > Hi all, > > With Santi we wanted to share a new release of TaskIt, a concurrency > management library for Pharo. TaskIt development is done entirely in github, > using iceberg. Works like a charm. Please

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

Hi, I think this is a great idea. Thanks for opening the issues. Now, the only question is where to put these. You suggest the package Manifest. I think this would work for individual packages, but as we are moving to projects (with Metacello), I would suggest to put these methods in the Confi

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] GTExamples alpha

Hi Nicolai, > On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: […] > > And the menu entries are ... unfortunate (see screenshot), what you put in, > > the whole source as menu label? > > Hmm. Something is strange there. I get the name of a method, not the source > code. What image are you in?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ann] GTExamples alpha

Hi, > On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:01 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-08-26 0:51 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > I just tried again, and the latest GToolkit image does contain FileSystem > class >> gtExampleZip: > > Yes, it is there, but not li

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