Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-11-02 Thread Bert Kiers
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:24:33PM +0200, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > How are they noise-wise? Can they be run fanless? You can hear them a few seconds when booting, after that they are quiet. There is only a fan in the PSU, not on the CPU. -- B*E*R*T _

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-11-01 Thread Bryan Vyhmeister
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I've last week started using the Y-PWR "ideal diode" boards and so > far they're working out great. That’s good to hear. Looks like just what I need. Thanks for the suggestion. > I also bought an OpenUPS2, but havn't had time to play wi

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-11-01 Thread Darius Moos
What about the fitlet i.e. fitlet XA10-LAN barbone ? Anyone considered that as a substitute ? Anyone has tested it or has experiences ? Maybe performance tests ? Link: http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/specifications/?model[]=FITLET-GX-C67-FLAN-W On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:09:37 -0700 Jerome Ibane

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-11-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <1446400321.1756740.425985249.06027...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Bryan Vyhmei ster writes: >> And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play >> with redundancy and local UPS for 12V boards: >> >> http://www.mini-box.com/micro-UPS-load-sharing

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-11-01 Thread Bryan Vyhmeister
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message > <1446351929.83901.425694457.53ca2...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Bryan > Vyhmeist > er writes: > > > The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines > > And this company has some very i

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-11-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <1446351929.83901.425694457.53ca2...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Bryan Vyhmeist er writes: > The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play with redundancy and local UPS for 12V

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-31 Thread Bryan Vyhmeister
Those Supermicro A1SAi and A1SRi boards are designed to run from 12V as well. Take a look at the manual or quick reference guide for the details. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Atom/X10/A1SAi-2750F.cfm The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines on mos

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Christopher Sean Hilton writes: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 08:45:47PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: >> Presumably you are using a 110V input? (and I wonder if a Kill-A-Watt?) >> >> I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from >> several AGM batteries and a float supply. I

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Bob Bishop writes: > HI, > >> On 22 Oct 2015, at 01:45, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from >> several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at >> 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-22 Thread Andrew Atrens
Hi Bob, That's what I observed as well with my bench power supply - as I dropped the voltage, the current would increase and wattage would remain relatively constant. I don't recall the exact point at which the board will sort of konk-out .. but I seem to recall the threshold is much above

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-22 Thread Bob Bishop
HI, > On 22 Oct 2015, at 01:45, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from > several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at > 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would > draw the same 0.5A and

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-22 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2015-10-21 20:45:47 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from > several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at > 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would > draw the same 0.5A and be abo

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-21 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 08:45:47PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > Presumably you are using a 110V input? (and I wonder if a Kill-A-Watt?) > > I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from > several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at > 12-13V, whi

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Christopher Sean Hilton writes: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:28:27PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote: > >> Given that just the Atom processor on the Supermicro has a TDP of 20W, I >> doubt that the whole system is not significantly more. Otherwise, why >> would they ship with a *200W* PSU? > > That's th

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-21 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:28:27PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote: > Given that just the Atom processor on the Supermicro has a TDP of 20W, I > doubt that the whole system is not significantly more. Otherwise, why > would they ship with a *200W* PSU? > That's the same processor that was in the proposed

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-21 Thread Dan
I think it would be interesting to see some diversification from the "server-as-a-router" market's current offerings, which are mostly just generic computers with multiple network interfaces and rackmount cases. Soekris is in an interesting position to be able to build application specific hardware

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-20 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:27:23PM +0200, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > That makes sense, but it's still a pity not to have a higher spec > machine to move to, even if it's not that particular model. > > Though on the other hand it makes a fair amount of sense: I've been > searching for alternati

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-19 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
When I originally saw this thread I didn't think much about it but given my experience, it makes sense. I'm not sure that there's a place in the market for the Net6801. Consider that there are several Intel Atom based machines which are only slightly more expensive than the current Net6501-70. Many

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-19 Thread Szechuan Death
On 10/19/15 10:02 AM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:33:26AM -0700, Dan Shechter wrote: >> Hi Conrad, >> >> What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS? >> > > If you look at the pictures of that box behind the links you'll > see that it has a front panel DB9

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-19 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-10-19, Dan Shechter wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:26 AM, wrote: >>> Jerome Ibanes hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09 >>> geschrieben: >>> Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? >>> >>> Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm >>>

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-19 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:33:26AM -0700, Dan Shechter wrote: > Hi Conrad, > > What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS? > If you look at the pictures of that box behind the links you'll see that it has a front panel DB9 serial port. When I setup my SuperMicro machine, which is earlier

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-19 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 06:26:33PM +0200, ck+soekrist...@bl4ckb0x.de wrote: > Hi Jerome, > > > Jerome Ibanes hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09 > > geschrieben: > > Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? > > > > Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-19 Thread Dan Shechter
Hi Conrad, What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS? -Dan On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:26 AM, wrote: > Hi Jerome, > >> Jerome Ibanes hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09 >> geschrieben: >> Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? >> >> Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/pro

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-19 Thread ck+soekristech
Hi Jerome, > Jerome Ibanes hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09 > geschrieben: > Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? > > Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm > Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 > > Th

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-19 Thread Bert Kiers
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:09:37PM -0700, Jerome Ibanes wrote: > Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? > > Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm > Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 > > The quality is c

[Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-18 Thread Jerome Ibanes
Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from Soekris, but this seems to

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-07 Thread Andreas Steinel
Hi, I also found the net6801 very interesting and a good step forward. Recently, I replaced my two 5501 and 6501 with two apu's from pc engines. Not exactly the amount of nics (only 3) and no PCIe expansion, yet it serves my purpose and it is a good deal for a reasonable price. It's not ARM based,

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Ralph Green
Howdy, On the low end, I would say a Banana Pi R1 router is comparable. I have one and it has problems, but is usable. I have only used it on slow networks(like 4 mbps down and 1 up. Cnewer chipsets with eight 64 bit cpus should be able to keep up with much faster traffic at low power. Ralph

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2015-10-06, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already. These Rangeley-based systems by ADI Engineering seem to be actually available and in quantities down to 1: US: http://store.netgate.com/Production-Systems-C209.aspx EU: https://shop.voleatech.de/en

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Vadim Troshchinskiy
On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 12:55:49 PM Ralph Green wrote: > Howdy, > I think this was a smart move. When I saw the original announcement > for the 6801, I thought it was a bad idea. That kind of CPU with the > support chips it needs is not cost effective. I hope they switch to a > 64 bit arm

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Ralph Green
Howdy, I think this was a smart move. When I saw the original announcement for the 6801, I thought it was a bad idea. That kind of CPU with the support chips it needs is not cost effective. I hope they switch to a 64 bit arm design. Good day, Ralph _

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Dan
It's in the "Latest News" column of the Home page: " Latest News *October 6, 2015:* Development of the net6801 has been shelved indefinitely due to high production and component costs. We appreciate your interest." On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:24 AM Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:09 +0200 Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote: > > I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris > > reconsiders. > > Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to see > ads

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Dan
Guess I picked up my used net6501-70 on e-bay just in time! Has anybody experimented with PCIe ethernet switching cards? I have been looking at the DualComm DCP-1004(L), which might be a nice way to do switching through my net6501 without using the onboard CPU for layer-2. I was having trouble f

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Vadim Troshchinskiy
On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote: > I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris > reconsiders. Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to see ads for 300 Mbps fiber and the old hardware just won't do for that. It's been

Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Stephen Mintz
I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris reconsiders. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015, 9:33 AM Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > I just saw the news on soekris.com > > This is very unfortunate. I was looking forward to it, as my net6501-70 has > been having trouble keeping up with my fib

[Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

2015-10-06 Thread Vadim Troshchinskiy
I just saw the news on soekris.com This is very unfortunate. I was looking forward to it, as my net6501-70 has been having trouble keeping up with my fiber connection. Are there any other plans to release something more powerful than the net6501-70? _