Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-28 Thread Michael Collinson
On 28/09/2023 11:18, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 28/9/23 08:21, cleary wrote: Windorah Qld and Ivanhoe NSW are both currently shown as "town" in OSM but neither has more than rudimentary health service (if any), a hotel, small primary school and service station. I couldn't buy a coffee in eithe

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-28 Thread Michael Collinson
On 28/09/2023 10:19, Warin wrote: On 28/9/23 17:04, Michael Collinson wrote: TL;DR: We need to get a systematic measure of population density into OSM to act as a guideline for mapping software to vary what goes at what zoom level. Off topic: On a global scale that does not work due

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

2023-09-28 Thread Michael Collinson
TL;DR: We need to get a systematic measure of population density into OSM to act as a guideline for mapping software to vary what goes at what zoom level. This can be done either by adding the appropriately calculated/derived density measure to admin boundary relations or, more radically, as pa

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Michael Collinson
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Re: [talk-au] power=edge_server

2022-11-02 Thread Michael James
This dataset is not any sort of computing system, they have copied the ACMA mobile network tower information and called it research. This is of course going to be a licensing issue. https://www.acma.gov.au/radiocomms-licence-data Michael From: Nev Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2022 12:38 AM To

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne - Suburban Rail Loop - Too early to mark as under construction?

2022-11-02 Thread Michael Collinson
Being a grand cynic or at least just jaundiced,  'proposed' can be translated to "I'll be lucky to see this in my life time", so any actual work at all is a major, major change in significance so I'd go for 'under construction' in at least Graeme's example. Utility works also have an impact on

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

2022-10-07 Thread Michael Collinson
I suggest a good consensus basically following the rest of the world would be: 1) If a path is clearly marked for use by bicycles then use bicycle=designated.  I.e.  "there ARE signs present to indicate bikes are expressily permitted". 2) If a path has no signage barring cycling and no clear

Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

2022-08-29 Thread Michael Collinson
Reply inline On 2022-08-29 06:32, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks for confirmation, fellas! On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 at 21:12, David Wales via Talk-au wrote: I use them in Organic Maps for my personal navigation! & me in OSMAnd for mine! On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 at 00:37, Michael Colli

Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

2022-08-26 Thread Michael Collinson
Graeme, You are one with Steve Coast on seeing that as a major focus. Yes, use and of use.  Anecdotally, I have a peripheral connection with a small commercial app map/routing library and have hobby-business apps Android apps based on it. Yes, definitely of use particularly on longer roads ...

Re: [talk-au] Cycle tags on motorways

2022-08-18 Thread Michael Collinson
Purely as a question: Is there a case for actually mapping the whole cycleway separately as a cycleway? As a cyclist, I like to see what I have in store. Argument for: Well, that is what it is, a dual use cycleway and hard shoulder. And I guess main argument against: Ah, but it is not physicall

Re: [talk-au] Industrial area or not?

2022-08-09 Thread Michael Collinson
I crafted the original wording for Map Features landuse tags and was careful to use the word "predominantly", so for me just 'industrial'. I think the answer is in your description wording 'produce stockfeed', i.e. there is a manufacturing process beyond just storing an agricultural product - I

Re: [talk-au] Queensland railway stations

2022-04-17 Thread Michael Collinson
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Re: [talk-au] Funding for OpenStreetMap initiatives

2022-04-17 Thread Michael Collinson
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Re: [talk-au] HighRouleur edits

2022-03-27 Thread Michael Collinson
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[talk-au] Any ID-edtor savvy mapper who could help with a Young Engineers Australia mapathon?

2022-02-16 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi all, Is there anyone who could help me co-host a Young Engineers Australia mapathon in the March-ish time-frame? I happy to do most of the talking about OpenStreetMap and HOT but I am most definitely not ID-editor savvy. The basic task would be to run through using ID for a specific to-be-

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

2022-02-09 Thread Michael Collinson
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Re: [talk-au] "Bad" directions on Outback roads

2022-02-08 Thread Michael Collinson
We have a reasonable if not perfect tagging system for a router to assess (and make assumptions) about the quality of a road for various types of vehicle in BEST CASE  conditions. motorway versus track, tracktype, asphalt versus gravel being the main ones. From a router point of view it would

Re: [talk-au] Tagging a house name

2022-02-04 Thread Michael Collinson
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging Sydney bus stops

2022-02-01 Thread Michael Collinson
local_ref has been used it at least the UK and Sweden to tag the stand number. It doesn't (yet) render on the OSM map main layer but does on the transport layers.    /Mike https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:local_ref Swedish example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/59.39035/18.043

Re: [talk-au] Consistent addr:state format?

2022-01-30 Thread Michael Collinson
It is safer putting in the street name. Nominatim fills in street from the street physically closest to the addr tag, which is not always correct. Sarah is aware and looking at measures to improve that - for example by looking at nearby street numbers for sequentiallity - but I doubt it could b

Re: [talk-au] Strange e-mail address?

2022-01-30 Thread Michael Collinson
essor sorts out bounces. On 31/1/22 11:05, Alex Sims wrote: Hi Michael, Gname.org moved to gmane.io almost a year ago. So the subscription to x...@gname.org will never work again and should be deleted. A new link needs to be set to gmane.io so that the NNTP feed via news.gmane.io can work (if d

Re: [talk-au] Strange e-mail address?

2022-01-30 Thread Michael Collinson
I just create lists so I have forwarded this to Tom Hughes in case he can help or elucidate.  /Mike On 31/1/22 10:24 am, Alex Sims wrote: HI Graeme, When you send an email to the list, it then sends a copy to subscribers which includes a mirror at gmane.org. For some reason the copy at gnam

Re: [talk-au] sac_scale [Was: Deletion of walking tracks/paths]

2022-01-27 Thread Michael Collinson
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging "boundary" roads with addr:*

2022-01-07 Thread Michael James
the road as used by cars often is much smaller then the total area. Checking my area, when a suburb boundary follows a road it is in the centre of the gap between the properties that are either side of the road and that centre line is not always the paved road that you see on the ground. Michael

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Use of Council data in OpenStreetMap

2021-12-09 Thread Michael James
llectual property rights, including copyright, in the information and data provided through TRC's Online Mapping, with the exception of licensed data. These conditions of use do not confer on the user of TRC's Online Mapping any rights of ownership in any data. Michael From: Graeme Fitz

Re: [talk-au] The ACT Place Names Advisory Committee has a sense of humour

2021-11-30 Thread Michael Collinson
Phew, Coombs must have been a ruthless place previously. ... Sorry. Mike On 2021-11-30 20:27, Andrew Davidson wrote: So we have a new park in Coombs that needs a name. A name based on the suburb's theme of notable public service: https://www.legislation.act.gov.au/View/di/2021-260/current/h

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs: Nodes, Areas, or both?

2021-11-04 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Dian, I have an interested in mapping what I call, for want of better terminology, fuzzy names or sense-of-place and comment in that specific regard. In summary: if the suburb has a defined boundary, use an area, if it doesn't use a node. I would certainly NOT however use both to represen

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

2021-10-08 Thread Michael Collinson
A bit late to the party on this one. But a couple of observations follow up Graeme's 2012-10-03 point about the myriad of "You can ride on a footpath if" exceptions and how to deal with them. 1) I suggest rigorously using and making synonymous footway=sidewalk [1] with what are clearly and una

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

2021-10-08 Thread Michael Collinson
Picking just Adam's question about mapping after a fire. [I also very much support the idea that OSM ways should ideally have only one primary tag and so agree that natural and boundary does not go together.] I went through a similar self-dialogue where I am now in Sweden as to what to with cl

Re: [talk-au] Suspicious amount of removed bicycle tags

2021-09-22 Thread Michael Collinson
Just a thought and I hope not too imperialist sounding:  in UK England and Wales law, a distinction evolved between a "footway" and a "footpath", just possibly pre-1900 (unclear): https://pedestrianliberation.org/the-law-2/ "'footway' is the modern legal term for ‘that part of the highway set

Re: [talk-au] Trouble with routing through an intersection

2021-09-02 Thread Michael James
-Original Message- From: Simon Slater Sent: Friday, 3 September 2021 10:00 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Trouble with routing through an intersection On Thursday, 2 September 2021 4:03:16 PM AEST Michael James wrote: > It's possible your change jus

Re: [talk-au] Trouble with routing through an intersection

2021-09-01 Thread Michael James
top a routing engine finding a path. Michael -Original Message- From: Simon Slater Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 3:05 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-au] Trouble with routing through an intersection G'day all, This morning I created a route from Serpe

Re: [talk-au] highway=service

2021-08-13 Thread Michael Collinson
I've added my comments below Andrew's. Hope that is not too messy. /Mike On 2021-08-14 03:59, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 at 09:12, Tom Brennan > wrote: Like my previous post on sidewalks, this one is also from walking and cycling all of th

Re: [talk-au] Mapping driveways under awnings.

2021-08-11 Thread Michael Collinson
Simon, Without knowing the nature of the challenge, I assume the apparent anomaly is a road apparently bulldozing through a building. Me, I'd either leave it as it is or to be squeaky clean (if I know from on-the-ground) I'd map the two sticky out bits as building=roof. I don't know if there

Re: [talk-au] highway=track update

2021-02-23 Thread Michael Collinson
I don't map much in the US but do in Australia and Sweden. In both countries, I have rarely come across what I consider to be gravel roads, instead consider most unpaved roads and tracks to be 'dirt' or 'compacted': https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface%3Dcompacted Apropos the curren

Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-03 Thread Michael James
but only one calls itself a hospital. Not sure QAS offers any walk up facilities anymore, the local one here has a phone out the front to call for help. Michael From: Graeme Fitzpatrick Sent: Friday, 4 September 2020 12:51 PM To: OSM-Au Subject: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals Over

Re: [talk-au] What do you prefer for Barmah-Millewa: swamp or wood?

2020-05-12 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Ian, Summary: For me wood is physical tree-cover and wetland is the condition of the ground and they are complimentary rather than exclusive. In Sweden, I map both natural=wood and natural=wetland as separate polygons, with a common border or overlap as appropriate. There is is very easy

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate of the same airport

2020-03-25 Thread Michael James
It is a military base that allows civilian air traffic to use its runway. As far as air traffic goes it's called Williamtown, only the civilian terminal area is called Newcastle airport. (28 hectares of land) https://www.newcastleairport.com.au/corporate/about/board-governance Hope that helps,

Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits?

2020-02-16 Thread Michael James
As someone who drives a lot of country highways they are both temporary and permanent. From: Sebastian S. Sent: Monday, 17 February 2020 11:11 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Graeme Fitzpatrick ; OSM-Au Subject: Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits? Is this a temporary thing? Or is this similar to

Re: [talk-au] A22 route Sydney

2020-02-07 Thread Michael James
. Confusion will arise as a search for rms listed highway gives this document https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/partners-suppliers/lgr/documents/classified-roads-schedule.pdf But if you read the start it mentions that the route numbers DO NOT line up with named highways. Michael From

Re: [talk-au] Addresses/street numbers

2020-01-02 Thread Michael Shafer
Ah I totally missed this project — looks great! Thanks Dion, I’ll have a crack at contributing. Michael On 3 Jan 2020, 11:07 AM +1100, Dion Moult , wrote: > Good morning Michael! > > Have you seen the NSW address import project? It uses the LPI web services: > > https://gitlab.co

[talk-au] Addresses/street numbers

2020-01-02 Thread Michael Shafer
-level imagery? Interestingly Mapbox does have street numbers where I live, I wonder where they are getting that information. Thanks, Michael ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] local traffic only

2019-11-11 Thread Michael James
Queensland Department of Transport and Main Roads website specifically lists “Local Traffic Only” as an official state level sign. https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/instruction (see section “Local traffic restriction signs”) From: Michael James mailto:mich...@techdrive.com.au>>

Re: [talk-au] local traffic only

2019-11-10 Thread Michael James
They existed prior to 1997 and were removed when the national rules were introduced that year. It’s likely that local councils are unaware that they no longer have any legal purpose. From: Sebastian S. Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2019 9:50 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Andrew Harvey ; Mateu

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Missing Maps/OSM rep?

2019-11-07 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Vitva, If you don't get any other volunteers, I'll be happy to come along and answer questions/talk ad hoc but not prepare a talk. I'm not familiar with Missing Maps but have previously served on the OSM Foundation board. Cheers, Mike Michael Collinson On 2019-11-08

Re: [talk-au] Uluru naming consistency

2019-10-28 Thread Michael Gratton
k' in alt_name instead of old_name. If you think about it Uluru *is* the old name... 😊 Thirded! -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/> ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreet

Re: [talk-au] Residential Poolside Building

2019-08-12 Thread Michael Collinson
I usually mark all residential buildings, including the main house or strata building, as building=residential.  I feel it useful but safe. I usually map in Sweden where planning regulations encourage a plethora of out-buildings whose use is difficult to judge from imagery: garages, spare rooms

Re: [talk-au] Copying address from business website?

2019-07-22 Thread Michael Collinson
A simple test is: Am I helping their business? If it is the venue business itself, then yes you are. If you take from a listing site - where their value is the list itself, then no you are not, you are potentially acting to its detriment. FYI, your till receipts are another good source. Mike

Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

2019-06-24 Thread Michael James
There are lots of rivers in Australia that do not always have water in them The correct tag is intermittent=yes https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent Thanks Michael > -Original Message- > From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, 24 June 20

Re: [talk-au] Existing OSM precedent | Re: Aboriginal art sites

2019-04-03 Thread Michael Gratton
here has been a practice in OSM to *not* map certain things, such as private/non-publicized domestic violence shelters, or the nesting sites of endangered birds. So the same logic applies here I think. Both points seconded. -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <h

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

2019-03-31 Thread Michael Gratton
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 09:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Should that be documented as OSM (maybe AU?) policy, or left to the discretion of individual mappers? Definitely documented as such. -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.

Re: [talk-au] new OpenStreetCam competition

2019-03-18 Thread Michael James
s the GPS averaging is too slow to deal with the acceleration changes. Thanks Michael From: Martijn van Exel Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2019 1:08 AM To: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: [talk-au] new OpenStreetCam competition Howdy. We had a good time with the first OpenStreetCam co

Re: [talk-au] Able to host a tile.osm.org CDN node?

2019-02-24 Thread Michael
Hi Grant I have most of the hardware in place already for this. The only thing I don’t have right now is a router that can handle the higher speed plan from my ISP that would be required. How urgently do you guys want something in place? Thanks Michael > -Original Message- >

Re: [talk-au] Question on how to fix this intersection

2019-01-30 Thread Michael Collinson
+1 to that. Looking at the eastern side imagery again, I'd make a general comment that will help elsewhere: There really should be a node about where the pedestrian crossing is and pushing the road slightly north. This would bring it closer the traffic engineer's intention, which is that the Li

Re: [talk-au] Question on how to fix this intersection

2019-01-30 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Dion, I'd say a bit of both. The junction is topologically correct but looking at the aerial imagery and the node that you circled, https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1691043684 , then it could be moved very slightly north and a bit more aggressively west to lessen the change of direction

Re: [talk-au] Naming Bus Stops for interchanges in Sydney

2019-01-21 Thread Michael Collinson
In Sweden, I have seen the "F" going into the ref tag. Just a thought, I don't recall how it affects rendering in common schemes. Con: Clash with a more rigorous ref num giving by the transport authority, "40459" or such. Another (complementary) practice is to put just "F" as the name - which h

Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW

2018-12-07 Thread Michael
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Harvey > Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2018 1:45 PM > To: OSM Australian Talk List > Subject: Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW > It seems the branching of ways in the open water that results from mapping > ferry routes as relations is causing

Re: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset

2018-11-16 Thread Michael
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Harvey > Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2018 3:00 PM > To: OSM Australian Talk List > Subject: Re: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset > > On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 12:29, Joel H. wrote: > > > > Thats pretty cool, I might compare a few of these roads.

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Michael
secular institutions such as the St George Building Society and the St Kilda Football Club naturally use the abbreviation. It goes on but I can’t copy-paste from there so I had to type that, feel free to read it at your leisure. Michael From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sen

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Michael
English (Unlike Canada) What we might have to consider is that in indexing you use Saint not St, do we need to have it explicitly in the tagging (ie alt_name) or is this the responsibility of the renderer to work out? Michael From: Nemanja Bračko Sent: Friday, 29 June 2018 5:02 PM

Re: [talk-au] State names

2018-06-24 Thread Michael Collinson
I assume we are specifically talking about addr:state ? If so the connotation is on the state as part of a postal address rather than as a place per se. Therefore I suggest using capitalised abbreviation and that the document Warin quotes is

Re: [talk-au] Morton Bay National Park should have it's ID numbers under ref=

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
I also agree. Putting other info into a name is not good practice. Separation allows map renderer and search functionality to decide what to do rather than being forced into something. I personally like to tag in a generic way as possible and therefore would use the "ref" tag as my choice. How

[talk-au] FW: Am I doing intersections right?

2018-04-25 Thread Michael
slip road. The other 3 slip roads at this intersection have the same tags, and they do not result in OSRM producing such a driving instruction. If there were any obvious tagging mistakes, I would have fixed them already. Cheers, Thorsten > -Original Message- > From: Michael

Re: [talk-au] Am I doing intersections right?

2018-04-24 Thread Michael
Ok it seems the OSM website will not centre you on an area from a link but takes you back to the last area you looked at. Now ... I have removed 2 tags from the slip lane sections. -Original Message- From: Michael Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2018 7:13 PM To: 'OSM Australian Talk

Re: [talk-au] Am I doing intersections right?

2018-04-24 Thread Michael
For some reason it wont show me the location of the pins when I go to that link. I had looked at that area once before and noticed some odd stuff in josm but left it alone. I've gone back in with josm and made some changes, if the routing starts working (note sure on caching times before we see

Re: [talk-au] I have written a response to DNRM, please give feedback

2018-03-14 Thread Michael Collinson
I am the Michael Collinson mentioned by Simon, (hello Simon, it has been a while!). I still lurk on this list and after a long gap will be spending time in Australia each year. I am in Melbourne at the moment and look forward to meeting mappers here on my hopefully less busy visit later this

Re: [talk-au] Mapping Indigenous Place Names

2018-01-26 Thread Michael
You need :- http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp Don’t forget to select ‘N’ as it only shows the ones starting with the letter selected. From: David Dean [mailto:dd...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 10:34 PM To: Andy Mabbett Cc: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: Re:

Re: [talk-au] New proposed subdivision roads

2018-01-16 Thread Michael
I can answer Q3 The tagging is wrong. Should be :- proposed=residential highway=proposed As per :- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway Thanks Michael -Original Message- From: fors...@ozonline.com.au [mailto:fors...@ozonline.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2018 3:21

Re: [talk-au] Residential/commercial property boundaries

2016-01-03 Thread Michael Gratton
ing property borders would have been a useful way to indicate addresses - also seems more correct than using buildings, to my mind anyway. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/> On Sun, 3 Jan, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [talk-au] Residential/commercial property boundaries

2016-01-03 Thread Michael Gratton
Yes, as I said landuse doesn't seem to be what I'm after here. What was the objection to fine grained land ownership in OSM? Seems like a particularly useful thing to have in. Is it just "imports suck"? //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.ve

[talk-au] Residential/commercial property boundaries

2016-01-02 Thread Michael Gratton
ing scheme something like: area=yes addr:housenumber=... addr:street=... But then Karlsruhe says that buildings should be tagged with the addr:* tags instead? Any suggestions? //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/>

[talk-au] Data for OSM + talk at UNSW

2014-09-24 Thread Michael Gratton
t do you think, does that all sound reasonable? Any suggestions of resources/nifty things to demo in the presentation gratefully accepted. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/> ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-

Re: [talk-au] Question - names of motorways leaving Sydney

2014-09-10 Thread Michael Hampson
What you have suggested seems good to me Mark. Regards, Michael H. On 7/09/2014 4:10 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: When the new alphanumeric route numbers in NSW were unveiled, some of the motorways were renamed (e.g. Sydney-Newcastle Freeway became Pacific Motorway, South-Western Motorway became

[talk-au] NSW LPI licencing framework review [Was: Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?]

2014-04-30 Thread Michael Gratton
On Thu, 1 May, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Ian Sergeant wrote: I agree that if and when we can use the definitive suburb boundaries we should use their line. The ABS data just doesn't have the accuracy for that in my experience. I think you'll generally find in cases like this that the actual boun

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-30 Thread Michael Gratton
On Wed, 30 Apr, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 30 April 2014 00:10, Michael Gratton wrote: The changeset is here: <http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22023461>, does anyone have any comments about how it could be improved? Personally - 1. I wouldn't use the

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-29 Thread Michael Gratton
On Wed, 30 Apr, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Ben Kelley wrote: Thanks Ian. :-) +1! :) Fixed it. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-29 Thread Michael Gratton
On Tue, 29 Apr, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Alex Sims wrote: On 28 Apr 2014, at 1:53 pm, Michael Gratton wrote: On a related note, what's the appropriate way to map suburb-sized areas that are partitions? A way for each suburb that share nodes along common borders, a way for each suburb that

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-28 Thread Michael Gratton
On Mon, 28 Apr, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 28 April 2014 14:23, Michael Gratton wrote: So you are saying the ABS suburb boundaries should be checked individually rather than imported en mass? How do you know that the quality of the GNB/Wikipedia/etc data is any better

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-27 Thread Michael Gratton
Hey Ian, On Sun, 27 Apr, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Ian Sergeant wrote: I don't really agree. I think we need suburb boundaries to be as accurate as we can make them at the time we create them, and not do a mass import leaving us with thousands of FIXMEs. Importing data we know is wrong at the time

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-21 Thread Michael Gratton
te, be better than nothing? //Mike Email sent to sds.copyri...@lpi.nsw.gov.au: On Mon, 21 Apr, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Michael Gratton wrote: Hello, I am a contributor to Open Street Map (OSM)[1], a world-wide, collaboratively edited, open project to create a global geodata set freely usabl

[talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-20 Thread Michael Gratton
Hey list, So I just returned from Adelaide and was rather impressed with how well mapped the place is. In particular, it was cool that metro suburb boundaries were mapped out, such that searching for streets worked well. Does anyone know what the status is for adding suburb boundaries for S

Re: [talk-au] path undre overhanging cliff?

2014-04-03 Thread Michael Gratton
Oooh! I'll bikeshed, err I mean bite! Is the path "underground", so could you use layer=-1? If not, then layer=0 sounds good to me. //Mike On Fri, 4 Apr, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Frank wrote: Here is a nice puzzel? How would you tag a path that lies under an overhanging cliff? So it is not a

Re: [talk-au] AU openstreetmapS.com domain squatter

2014-03-20 Thread Michael Gratton
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, 1) Warning - Bitdefender reports openstreetmapS.com as an attack page. 2) Why obtain a domain name that is so close to another name (that is well known)? 3) Why would you (or a firm) obtain a domain name and then

Re: [talk-au] Growth in OSM usage.

2014-03-05 Thread Michael Gratton
On 5 March 2014 7:21:28 PM Dssis1 wrote: Hi, just letting you guys know that the East-West Link page now uses a OSM map to show drilling locations. Now if only we could get governments building /useful/ transport infrastructure, it would be a win-win! :/ -- Sent from my outboard brain.

Re: [talk-au] Mapping Gallipoli

2014-01-02 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Warin, First,  wonderful idea,  my grandad fought there with the 2nd AIF and being able to relate dry names in books to actual places is very satisfying ... whether just looking at the map or making an actual visit. I think it well worth approaching Australian War Memorial. As OpenStreetMap

Re: [talk-au] Taking OSM to the Garmin

2013-07-12 Thread Michael James
On 12/07/13 12:42, Brett Russell wrote: > Hi All > > Trouble I been Windows based means even simple things like reading the type > file is made hard until you wake up that Windows default Notepad is useless > as it does not understand line feeds. You want to get yourself Notepad++ then, it will

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?

2013-06-01 Thread Michael James
On 01/06/13 14:32, Ian Sergeant wrote: > On 1 June 2013 09:29, Michael James wrote: > >> >> There is a legal difference between a divided highway and a freeway in >> Australia, so if it is not actually called a freeway/motorway via >> signage then it really isn

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?

2013-05-31 Thread Michael James
On 29/05/13 22:51, Ian Sergeant wrote: > I'd like to indicate freeway class sections as motorways, however, I can > see the argument to just objectively use the RMS classifications. Will > save edit wars down the track to just have one easy rule. There is a legal difference between a divided hig

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?

2013-05-29 Thread Michael James
On 29/05/13 10:40, Ben Johnson wrote: > Any thoughts on whether the completed sections of the "Newcastle Inner City > Bypass" (now being referred to by the RMS as "A37 - Newcastle Outer Ring > Road") should be classified as type Motorway …? If they're calling it A37 then they're not calling it a

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap in Government

2013-05-10 Thread Michael Gratton
ised tilesets, and for desktop/web/mobile apps to let people easily make use of them. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Using multipolygon to create large lake

2013-04-23 Thread Michael Krämer
Also the role for the ways had been set to "Lake St Clair" but should rather be "outer". This I also only found since JOSM complained about it. Bye, Michael ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Export a route?

2013-02-22 Thread Michael James
On 22/02/13 18:53, David Clark wrote: > Is there a way I can export a route as osm or gpx or kml from > Openstreetmap. > > ie Mawson trail: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=153983 > > I just want the lines that are part of this relation and nothing else. You can do this in josm very easi

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-02-20 Thread Michael Gratton
uitable for use for a initial import to OSM? > On 22/01/13 23:17, Michael Gratton wrote: >> From the sounds of it, one thing they are anxious is having old >> route/timetable data being out in public. > > I'm not sure whats wrong with keeping historical records... >

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-22 Thread Michael Gratton
since the import or last update (perhaps the common case?), apply the change 4. Otherwise flag it as needing attention Similarly for additions, and deletions. So the bot acts much like an individual contributor, except that it uses the feed as a data source rather than GPS. //Mike -- ⊨ Micha

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-22 Thread Michael Gratton
port, but GTFS does indeed include service routes and timetable data in addition to stops. The data is there, it just needs a decent licence. //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature _

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-22 Thread Michael Gratton
ate? While stop/station locations infrequently change, routes do seem to come and go more frequently. It wouldn't be too hard for someone to run a process on a server somewhere to keep tabs on changes in the feed and update the map as needed, but it seems like some coordination there would be a goo

[talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-21 Thread Michael Gratton
<https://tdx.131500.com.au/terms-conditions.php>, I assume this would be a deal breaker for OSM? //Mike -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ <http://mjog.vee.net/> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-au ma

Re: [talk-au] Australia Postcodes - using AusPost database

2012-12-20 Thread Michael Collinson
:-( I just looked at the license you referenced and it is very, very restrictive. So no. Both the old and new OSM licenses allow commercial usage, (otherwise it would not be an open license). Some publishers if specifically and courteously asked *may* make an exception as OpenStreetMap itself

[talk-au] Fwd: cities changed to towns

2012-12-12 Thread Michael Krämer
rtance/situation. So while a place like Noseman (or probably Wyndham) should definelty qualify for place=town something in similar size in a more densely populated area might not. So my concern is more along the lines that even if a place legally/formally is

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-10 Thread Michael James
On 11/12/12 13:26, John Henderson wrote: > On 11/12/12 09:17, Chris Barham wrote: > >> I really do think Gympie, Maryborough, Warwick and Charters Towers >> are cities, and should have remained tagged as such. Are there >> others, in other states, within this changeset that should have >> stayed

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