Andre reported the mailing list was broken and this is a test to see if it
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to the office later today, probably without the fsplit
operation.
Any suggestions?
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> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:12 AM
> To: Typesetting music with TeX
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>
Roland Stigge wrote
> Hi Don,
>
> thanks for working on this.
>
> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 16:36, Don Simons wrote:
> > I'm not sure where to go from here. I can try the same steps
> manually under
> > linux when I get to the office later today, probably without th
date and version number.
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you have compiled the PMX source file since I first uploaded it, I
suggest you download the modified zip and recompile.
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx2501.zip
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Dirk wrote:
> >>>
> Thus, t is indeed a poor brother of s, its only virtue being that
> in one very
> special case its use saves one some manual adjustment.
>
> I suspect the original reason for the "t" slur was only because, before
> labelled slurs, one needed two different slur symbols in the
>
TeX rule.
PMX complains if I put the macro terminator M at the end of the line. I'll
have to look into that.
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No answer but a related question:
Double bars have always seemed too thick to me. Is there a good way to make
all double bars less thick?
--Don Simons
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> Fleck
> Sent: Sunday, April
little is to do beta testing as
new versions appear, even if you don't plan to used the new enhancements.
It's very hard for me to anticipate and test for all possible adverse
interactions when I make changes to the code. Beta testing by a large number
of p
ed to leave scor2prt
alone for now, and include a comment in the next release of the manual
cautioning against this. I might also decide to screen for it in PMX or
scor2prt and issue a warning if it is found.
--Don Simons
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> [m
were not being handled properly. The
bug was hatched in version 2.415, when the AT option was introduced
(although it's not related to the space problem). I'll have a fix out
shortly.
I can't remember why I ever coded up the replacement digits. Why would
anyone ever w
Col. G. L. Sicherman wrote
> Don Simons wrote
> > I can't remember why I ever coded up the replacement digits. Why would
> > anyone ever want to use them?
>
> I sometimes use "5", "6", and "2".
>
So do I, whenever there are 5, 6, o
at it
> is) is novel. Again: any particular reason ?
There's no particular reason, and I changed it back to pmxab.exe in the
revised zip.
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specific to my own setup.
I hope you are aware that the preprocessors PMX (for instrumental music) and
M-Tx (for vocal) can immensely simplify the process compared to using raw
MusiXTeX.
--Don Simons
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thout resorting to inline TeX.
2. Allow musicsize of 24 and 29.
3. Bugfix: Fix bug introduced in 2.415 which caused error in printing
replacement number in xtup.
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volunteer out there who would be willing to try to convert the
Pascal sources to C and create a tarball with a makefile?
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followed by a comment indicating whether the MIDI file is tied or not.
Basically, only non-indexed s-slurs, and non-indexed postscript t-ties lead
to midi ties. If you use any version before 2.5 and get a different result,
please update. If you choose to update and get a different result, then
p
work.
\\makeatletter\
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\\special{ps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL
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\\makeatother\
\\def\shl#1{\zcharnote{#1}{\kern-2pt\raise.4\internote\hbox{\psline{11pt}{3p
t\
--Don S
harpsichord and visiting old friends at the
International Baroque Institute at Longy in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Then
when you finish the typesetting, we can get together and play them :-)
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t;Vol. 13 of this set" without saying who the other composer was
or what the common features are.
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> Don Simons ha scritto:
>
> >When I saw the subject line I immediately thought about Pasquini
> and those
> >strange pieces. Are there any other works with tw
, but it's going to be rather complicated, so please don't hold your
breath.
--Don Simons
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> Cataldi
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:44 AM
> To: Typesetting music with TeX
en\
a22 /
e25 /
e25 /
===
What's a Viool? Is that the punch line to some joke about violas?
--Don Simons
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andre
> Van Ryckeghem
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 5:23 AM
> To: Typese
d files were 100%
compatible with Type-K postscript slurs then I would support making them
official (after a reasonable beta-test period). Otherwise, since I've
invested so heavily in making PMX use Type-K slurs, I could not personally
support such a change.
--Don Simons
> -Original Messag
re, please send
it to me (directly) and I'll see if I can make the dimensions big enough for
that.
--Don Simons
> -Original Message-
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> Dreher
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:13 AM
> To: Typ
ug in
the coding for \Ioctfin?
--Don Simons
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> Van Ryckeghem
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [TeX-music] pmx: is this an error?
>
I could not connect to icking-music-archive.org at 7:45 AM PDT.
--Don Simons
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> Lang
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:52 AM
> To: Typesetting music with TeX
> Subject
asked for it. So I'll add this to the list, but don't hold your breath.
Meanwhile you can use the PMX dot-moving facilities to put the dot wherever
you want.
--Don Simons
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> Chr
No problem with my copy of Acrobat Reader 6.02 and the Weyse scan.
--Don Simons
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> Jean-Pierre Coulon
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 4:31 AM
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>
Bravo, Olivier!
--Don Simons
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> Vogel
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:52 AM
> To: Typesetting music with TeX
> Subject: [TeX-music] M-Tx/PMX: Tweaking distance between
of the following measure, the new sign
should be place before the barline."
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of the following measure, the new sign
should be placed before the barline."
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Does this help? Remember also that you can reduce the vertical space between
the PMX header and the staff by appending a negative integer to "h".
--Don Simons
=
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig,
1 1 4 4
Forgot to mention: Did you realize that PMX can generate TeX headers
including page numbers and other text with options to the P command.
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otherwise and can explain what the notation really means, I'm willing to
listen.
By the way, in the somewhat related notation a44x3d a a , the dot on the
first note is in fact inherited by any chordal notes.
--Don Simons
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confluence of the
first 3 conditions and automagically insert extra space if needed. Perhaps a
better alternative would be to invent an option for the X command to make it
put the space right before the main note. Comments?
--Don Simons
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I've just uploaded PMX beta 2.504 to
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx2504.zip
The only new feature is an option X[x] to the G command, which inserts a
space of x notehead widths between a normal grace and the main note.
--Don S
why I
used K for the name of the option.
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I discovered and fixed a bug in the new rest-positioning algorithm. Now when
AK is issued, it will place simultaneous rests of equal duration at the
default heights (unless user-defined tweaks have been issued).
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx2506.zip
--Don Simons
ser tweaking: enter e.g. r4+0 in one
voice and r4b in the other.
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voice in a staff to another. I'm not sure if this is exactly what Christof
had in mind, but in any event I've used trick #1 many times.
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into these
things. Both the new zip, and the new file within it, have file date 21
November 04.
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx2506.zip
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ource that you've confirmed exhibits the problem). If you did have
multiple ties, then there's no surprise; PMX cannot do multiple simultaneous
ties in a single voice.
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o explicit index it ought to work in the MIDI. If you can't get all of your
one-at-a-time ties to work in the MIDI by rearranging the indices, then
please send me (privately) the PMX file and indicate where the problem is.
--Don Simons
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k at the shape of the subject in the next two entrances,
the tenor in Bar 1, and soprano in Bar 3. It's consistent with that
F-natural having been an F-sharp.
Can anyone shed any light on this?
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ay I uploaded a "special" excerpt (i.e., with verbatim
accidentals) of the other puzzling example, to
http://www.geocities.com/pchpublish/spemep1.pdf
Some of the other arguments centered on the academic nature of ricercari.
Since this other example is a Passo e Mezzo--a dance-
Just checking whether my postings have started going through.
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ke a LaTeX development
environment than simply an editor.
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Hello Sir,
I am using WinEdt for editing LaTeX document and it work
inning of a new line,
> in this case at the end of the previous system.
At least I got this one right.
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Sorry, I can't reproduce the error, and line 143 in pmxab is a comment line.
This may be
caused by a dimension problem my Windows version is insensitive to. Can
anyone provide any clearer debug info?
--Don Simons
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ke so
far I haven't allowed any forced beaming within xtups at all. I'll think
about it some more, but please don't hold your breath.
--Don Simons
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andre
> Van Ryckeghem
> Sen
Bravo, Cornelius, for discovering some pretty useful hidden capabilities in
PMX. I'm not sure "undocumented" applies, since to me that would suggest
that the features were known but just not described in the manual. It'll
take me some time to analyze this.
--Don Simons
>
ot;beam termination
toggle" option on the "]" that closes the beam?
--Don Simons
===
1 1
3 8 3 8
0 2
1 1 20 .0
b
./
\\let\tblsav\tbl\
%1 without precautions
[u e8- D"1" ze- Ct e++ zd zb b+ ze- zd ] |
%2 getting a - slope on the beam -> bad endin
I wrote
> >Maybe PMX needs a "beam termination
> >toggle" option on the "]" that closes the beam?
and Andre wrote
> Do you mean by 'toggle' adding an option to ']' (someting as ']j' ) for
> doing a \roff ?
I was thinking of replacing \tbl with \tbu and vice versa, but maybe the
same thing could
I propose leaving the code behavior the same, and rewording that statement
to the effect that any initial default or block-to-block inherited duration
is accidental. At this time I'm not inclined either to trap these violations
or to make the behavior official.
--Don Simons
> -
he desired
results without any in-line TeX.
For the MIDI files on my web site (www.geocities.com/pchpublish) I always
ended up having to make a special PMX input file to get things just right.
--Don Simons
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nline
commands.
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> Sass Bálint
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:28 AM
> To: tex-music@icking-music-archive.org
> Subject: [TeX-music] --- 3 voices ---
>
>
> Hi!
>
You need to run TeX, then musixflx, then TeX again. Before any of this, you
should delete barsant.mx1 and barsant.mx2 .
--Don Simons
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> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:51 AM
&g
.
>
>...
I second that motion.
I don't think it's possible to express how pleasing it is for me to see
examples like this, and of course like Dirk's M-Tx, that extend PMX into areas
that I never imagined.
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lower. The moral of this story is: "Don't use letters for pitches in in-line
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can say about that is that I'm sorry, if you want that much flexibility,
then go spend $500 for Finale.
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nt B" rather than from point A then move 3
inches to the right and 1 inch up." That would then make drawing these
brackets so much easier that PMX could learn to do it really quick.
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e you can get
rid of those extra-wide spaces above lines 2 and 4 by putting in even bigger
ones above lines 3 and 5 (see modified source below).
By the way I tried to play this, but I'm not very good in 2/5 meter :-)
--Don Simons
===
32 2 2 2 5 0 -1
1
PMX only issues \nostartrule if there is only one staff per system.
--Don Simons
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> Vogel
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:39 PM
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>
===
1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
1 1 20 0
t
.\
c24 \loffset{1.5}{\lpar5}\loffset{1.5}{\rpar5}\ c+s<.4 /
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Looks kind of awkward, if you ask me.
--Don Simons
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> [m
not doing it. But I'm afraid novice
users could get really confused by some of the stuff in there. If any
potential editor wants to look at the source as it stood before I started
working on it, you may be able to get it from this link:
http://icking-music-archive.org/cmo/outgoing/musixtex-T1
Am I missing something? What's so sinister about these requests? Is there
something in the tone of the language? I don't know German at all.
--Don Simons
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> Jean-Pierre Coulon
>
ve to make
another definition for lower brackets.
I hope you plan to put the Rameau cantatas in the archive.
--Don Simons
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Trent J
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:28 AM
> To: tex-music@icking-mu
ssue a new release.
I would suggest that no one blow away their working MusiXTeX installations
just yet, but I would very much appreciate it if people would temporarily
install the new copies of *.tex, musixflx.exe, and postscript fonts and
report back any problems.
--
a table showing the octal number for each of the characters.
You might also be able to figure out the character number by looking in
musixtex.tex for a macro that uses the character.
--Don Simons
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
x27;documented', even though the documentation
> is only a submission to the list.
>
> There are quite a few other very nice things in pmx.tex. Don, how would
> you feel about it if people who use them publish their usage, thus raising
> their status to
inconsistent with historical performance practice.
--Don Simons
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> Sass Bálint
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:13 PM
> To: tex-music@icking-music-archive.org
> Subject: [TeX-musi
en out a
main-note trill in one of these, but I still doubt it (because it would
sound wierd), I've never heard it, and the two Methodical Sonatas I have--in
c minor and g minor--don't have anything like that. But I'd be glad to have
someone prove me wrong.
--Don Simons
> -O
Olivier Vogel wrote
> I suggest this way of doing (not perfect in my opinion).
>
...
What part isn't perfect? Seems perfect to me. Thank you for a useful piece
of knowledge. ccn, you should make this a "tip and trick."
--Don Simons
5}\ c+s<.4 /
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> Tennent
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:28 AM
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> Subject: [TeX-music] Re: normalsized cautionary accidentals i
with no
flags. It may not be too difficult to implement but I'm not going to do it
if no one wants it, and I can't recall this ever coming up before.
--Don Simons
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dirk
> Laurie
>
Anything that happens when you try to beam across a bar line in PMX is an
accident. PMX assumes beams don't cross bar lines. If I had to do it, I'd
use inline TeX.
--Don Simons
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w \dimen" when loading musixps.tex, exactly
like I had gotten with latex in 2.1. I searched the hard drive for texmf.cnf
and it's not there at all (not that I would have known what to do if I had
found it).
Any suggestions what to do next?
--Don Simons
o seem to get the extended capability for this latex
document, but only after including \usepackage{etex} in the source, and only
by compiling with elatex.
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I've just uploaded a new beta version of PMX to
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx2508.zip
Recent list traffic has shamed me into enabling grace notes within xtuplets.
I hope I haven't screwed anything up. I'd appreciate reports of any
problems
Sass Bálint wrote
> Don Simons' PMX manual (2.3.7) says:
> "It is followed by exactly nv characters which are either - or 0
> depending on wether the corresponding staff is normal or small."
>
> That means:
> - normal
> 0 small
>
> Prof. Noack's PMX
, future musixtexers would be grateful.
--Don Simons
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> Van Ryckeghem
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> Subject: Re: [TeX-music] musixtex
ough the file.
Well I'm not sure I'd glorify it as "fancy", but there is a macro \toppageno
defined in pmx.tex, which PMX uses for inserting page numbers and optional
text into a header. In fact its pretty unfancy, because you
To all--
I'm almost as offended by the poor English as by the hijacking of my email
address. But there's nothing I can do about either.
--the real Don Simons
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s of ptmr7t.vf, 8r.enc, and how I can get a
postscript version of this font without having a .pfb file???
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section containing 68 musixtex source files all in one place (many
the same as above, but here there are no images)
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'll probably have to shift each symbol both vertically and horizontally
to get it where you want, and you may also need to specify the font if you
don't like the default.
2. Use inline TeX such as possibly \zchar4{\kern-3pt 1}\.
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have been less
elaborate had I realized that \hb existed).
In this case it could be argued that for reasons of clarity, the notation
might be replaced by printing side-by-side noteheads, and that is easily
achievable in PMX:
a23r //
a83 a+ c a /
--Don Simons
> -Original Message--
whole note.
> There is a clear difference in
> interpretation between using a stem and beam instead of an eighth
> rest.
I don't have any quarrel with that either, and I never suggested otherwise.
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ery ugly kluge (which I'm sure you could have worked
out yourself, but you shamed me into it).
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==
3 3 3 4 3 4 0 -3
1 1 16 0.0
bat
./
B
ArbeI.95
% bar 1
r1 b1- df1 f1 b4 g4 /
\turn{15}\ dfd2+ s /
%
%a4++ s gd8 s f1 GA2m3en f Gf bd8 b1 /
a4++ s gd8
improve the package, I would appreciate your making your work
available for inclusion in the archive (either contact me personally or the
list).
--Don Simons
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Elie
> Roux
> Sent: Wednesday, Dece
version 2.503 I introduced an option to left-shift arpeggios. Unfortunate
it has a bug which keeps it from working right when there are two voices per
line, such as in this case. But fear not, I found the bug, corrected it, and
just uploaded version 2.509 to the archive. For e
All this does is correct an error in the arpeggio left-shift option which
kept it from working right in some cases when there were two voices on a
staff.
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx2509.zip
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here was a time when
this didn't work for type 1 inline TeX, but I fixed that long ago.
--Don Simons
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> Kruse
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:05 AM
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such things. Also, it would be
> nice if TeX-input after the last note of a block (with the
> input-commands of any type) could be inserted and would not be ignored
> as they are now. Would it take major efforts to make such changes or
> additi
cause any
adverse effects when using the existing binaries for 2.508 and 2.509.
--Don Simons
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mat. This will simplify future
upgrading. Since unzippers are available in Linux and Unix, I hope this
doesn't pose a problem for anyone. If there are still folks who want to use
them at their own risk, the rpm's and the tarball remain in the software
directory and acce
d anyone ever actually hear how any of the developers pronounced it?
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Thanks to Christian Mondrup!
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Please privately email me the file that's causing the problem.
--Don Simons
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> Kruse
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anual just passed that
section last week.
--Don Simons
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oth the plus and especially the double slash are likewise very obscure, but
I happened to have needed both for my own purposes.
--Don Simons
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