On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Barker <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> You've been too active with technical issues on the list to be labeled a
> troll... unless Rob has a split personality and you are the side that
> actually knows something. Hmmm. An interesting email address, BT
Expressing dissent is not trolling. Sure one could argue that what
constitutes trolling is subjective, but almost any reasonable person can
discern when the line has been crossed. Francis is a lying mischievous
fool that periodically chimes in in hopes of pissing off users, or
scaring off newbies.
nko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List
>
> I hope after reading my post you won't add me to this page -
> http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
> I really wan
I hope after reading my post you won't add me to this page -
http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
I really want to defend Rob :-) Since some of his points are real problems
of Tapestry.
I will say it again: backward compatibility.
Of course major releases shouldn't be compatible, i.e. 1.
Rob Smeets wrote:
Left me alone, Tapestry should be kicked from Apache because it's destroying
it's image.
If it was in my power, YOU would be kicked from Apache and all their m/l.
Chris, I see you constantly linking me to others. Who is that Francis? I
hope he/she (since that name sounds fem
hey Rob,
if your intentions are this honest, I mean you care for the newbies, and so
on, why not start up your own blog, like Joel on Software, and spread your
ghospels there about the ultimate truth? you don't like Tapestry, that's it.
Ok, you've been heard. What else you want?
cheers,
Janos
a T
On 4/17/08, Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rob Smeets wrote:
> > Chris,
> > 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous
> > releases.
> >
>
> This is public knowledge and documented on the Tapestry website (5 not
> compatible with 4).
Howard has stated
>
> 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous
> releases.
Releases of many frameworks are incompatible with each other. The change
from 3 to 4 was minor
and with the change from 4 to 5, one can still use the same HTML templates
and do a fairly good upgrade.
Versi
>
> I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been making
> and
> tell me which one is a misinformation.
>
> 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous
> releases.
That's true and really inconvenient. On the other hand I also complain about
framewor
Chris only pinpointed your former offends and was so kind to translate
the type of it with respect. He was AFAICS not digging into what you
repeatedly post as facts to list.
So, Rob, we got your points [1-4]. Thank You.
And now would you just be so kind and leave us so we can happily close
th
Ok, now I know you don't care about those issues. But I know these are
issues many evaluating a framework would care to consider as part of their
decision factors. I don't know what you are building with Tapestry and don't
know for who. I can be 100% sure though it's not a serious stuff for a
serio
Rob Smeets wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Some of your quotes were made by me but others not by me. To make things
> easier for you I've copied my previous post for you. Be bold and answer
> them, ok. Don't be afraid or shy. At least I won't bite you. There we go:
>
> I want you to take a close look at the
Chris,
Some of your quotes were made by me but others not by me. To make things
easier for you I've copied my previous post for you. Be bold and answer
them, ok. Don't be afraid or shy. At least I won't bite you. There we go:
I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been makin
Francis (as Rob):
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-AW%3A-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16679523.html
"...not only are high profile Tapestry
users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry are
also ditching Tapestry..." - *FUD*
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Getting-Answers-on-
>
> This person is beyond a troll and has
> gone to a concerted effort to spread FUD and mis-information
Petros,
I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been making and
tell me which one is a misinformation.
1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with pre
Check this wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls,
and then consider reporting him to the relevant abuse departments. A
couple of us now know a good deal about who this person is, and I am
hoping that he will consider the reputation of his actual identity and
back off.
chris
L
Ignoring trolls works well with one off messages trying to get old arguments
started but this case is different. This person is beyond a troll and has
gone to a concerted effort to spread FUD and mis-information to the point of
damaging a lot of good work.
I think the people that have politely re
I don't mean to be rude but really...
WHY DO YOU GUYS EVEN REPLY TO THIS GUY
Can't you see how much fun he is having.
By replying to a discussion he is part of, I feel I am his puppet and my job
is to keep entertaining him. This is what we are all doing by reploying to
him. I am sure I am going
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