Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread Glyph1001

In a message dated 10/3/00 3:27:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Jeff lives in Chicago?
>
>I thought he moved to Berlin???
>
>

Chicago is his headquarters but he has a place in Berlin also for when he is 
abroad.  I'm not sure why he doesn't play in Chicago but I can find out.  =)

G l y p h


Re: [313] Back On Topic Please!

2000-10-03 Thread Glyph1001

In a message dated 10/3/00 8:48:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> Dickweed
>
>
>
>This is what he should be called anyhow... A bit like
>
>Judge (family) Jewels and Carl Cocks
>
>
>
>Nick(Dj Pacific:)
>
>

Hey now, "Carl Cocks" is where I draw the line, bro.  Carl is one of very few 
who can cater to many audiences.  His sets can vary from progressive clubby 
house all the way to banging techno.  

It is he who drove the crowd mad at MotorDetroit this past spring (I think it 
was), who kicked a** at the Tresor club in Berlin to another capacity crowd 
during Love Parade weekend...not to mention Love Parade itself to a tune of 
2.5 million people.  Those Germans do NOT play around, they know good music.

He's a nice, witty guy and every time I've heard him play, he's never let me 
down.   And besides, at least he's out there doing something.

G l y p h


regis vs. female

2000-10-03 Thread viagratek .


my friends booked regis and female for a show down here last october. due to 
technical difficulties...only regis got to perform but they said both karl 
and pete were there and i did see two british guys behind the mixer. as for 
either of them being richard harvey, thats still up in the air but from what 
i saw regis and female are two different people


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PUNISH

2000-10-03 Thread TekHitsHarder
Anyone have a link to punish's website?  do they even have one?  I need the 
dominatrix track, but I need to find out the volume #.

mike d.


RE: [313] shameless plug, (was Absract Fusion 2 comp.)

2000-10-03 Thread FRED MCMURRY

W! Chicago this weekend! I'm adding it to my shopping list.

Fred



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To: "Batory, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'*** ASKEW'" 
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CC: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: [313] shameless plug, (was Absract Fusion 2 comp.)
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 14:00:05 -0400

Glory be! track listing and audio clips of this are up.
http://www.deep4life.com/deeper.html
:)
n8

--On Friday, September 29, 2000 1:38 PM +0800 "Batory, Jason"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Keep an eye out for the next Deep4Life compilation named "Deep South
Experience" which will feature Ewan and also Justin Zerbst and another
local lad whom I can't recall at the moment. Will undoubtably be top
class stuff, as always from D4L.

Respect
JasonB

> Make sure you check out the talent of Ewan Jansen, Odara and the Red
> Ember
>
> crew (straight outta Perth). These guys are producing some damn fine
> house
>
> music... keep your eyes peeled for more vinyl releases in the near
> future.
>
> Damn* Ewan... 'Busted' wasn't on the demo you sent me!
> You holding out on me?  :)  And what's the scoop on Odara?
>
>
> cheers
> ~Askew
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Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread TechnoSnob
Email him and ask him [EMAIL PROTECTED]

=)

Lorie







On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Joel Fernandez wrote:

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> --
> > From: [ ma-Li*-a ] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > AnywaysI'm just jealous that any of you ever get to see him spin.
> 
> Well, I'm just upset that he hasn't played in Chicago considering he lives
> and works here.  The only opportunities that I would get to see him is when
> he plays in Toronto.  Is there an explanation why he doesn't play out in
> Chicago?
> 
> Ciao,
> 
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kida-last one

2000-10-03 Thread Diana Potts


a well written review of...

http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=A500567



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carl craig track id

2000-10-03 Thread Nerve
And once again, the nervemeister has to come to help with a track ID...

It's The world is coming down by Different Gear.
And you're right...it is Sting... it was actually a Police bootleg, but when 
they heard it, they just
allowed the makers to go ahead, and it became a legal track, now ain't that 
nice...

@ your service,

Nerve.

>Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 00:06:58 CDT
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>From: "ryan burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: carl craig track id
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>the other day i heard this carl craig live mix, he starts out with ST.
>GERMAIN.  He played this track with vocals that sound like the pop artist
>STING, i think..  the vocals say "the world is going down" or something like
>that.  does anyone know what it is?




Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread Fiveorange
Jeff lives in Chicago?

I thought he moved to Berlin???


Five


Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread Fiveorange
LOL.


Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread Joel Fernandez


--
> From: [ ma-Li*-a ] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> AnywaysI'm just jealous that any of you ever get to see him spin.

Well, I'm just upset that he hasn't played in Chicago considering he lives
and works here.  The only opportunities that I would get to see him is when
he plays in Toronto.  Is there an explanation why he doesn't play out in
Chicago?

Ciao,

Joel


Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread [ ma-Li*-a ]
>I'm sure it wasn't to throw records away, more rather it was to
> contain them for easy recovery after a set...

maybe he has a big pillow down in the bottom and then he has someone
standing back there placing the records in their proper sleeves.
AnywaysI'm just jealous that any of you ever get to see him spin.

I didn't even get to see Richie @ 1015.
damn...only one more year... :|

stay true
[love]
Malia

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Re: [313] Re: DJ sillyness

2000-10-03 Thread glyn

> Could it be some sort of sperstar djs trend?
> it seems lika an urban legendlike albino alligators in the sewers LOL

i've seen algorithm do the same thing, i.e. chuck the played records into
a pile on a third (non-functional) deck when he was done with them.

glyn 




Re: [313] web sites

2000-10-03 Thread William VanLoo
peter mueller wrote:
> 
> www.force-inc.com
> 
> www.kompakt-net.de
> 
> www.klang-elektronik.de
> 
> don't know about chain reaction.

There is no official Chain Reaction label site, but there are these:

http://www.hardwax.com (the Berlin record store that many of the Basic
Channel / Chain Reaction crew are associated with)

http://home.snafu.de/circonium/music/cr.html - the best source of
information about Chain Reaction. Check out the rest of the Circonium
site, too, for interviews, other BC/CR-related labels, and more:

http://home.snafu.de/circonium/


Hope this helps,

Bill


who was that masked man?

2000-10-03 Thread Revaron
In a message dated 03/10/00 00:54:02 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> according to an old Magic Feet compilation(Magic Trax 2 )
>  Richard Harvey = Female
>  the last Female lp also sounded close to some User stuff to me

Right.  The mystery gets deeper.  So, Richard Harvey is really Dean Cole, but 
he's also Female (as well as User).  BUT, Female is Pete Sutton but that is 
really just an alter ego of Karl O'Connor, who is also Regis.  I'm truly 
confused now...

Is Dean Cole/Richard Harvey/User - and possibly Female as well - from 
Birmingham as well?  I'll bet its all just one guy laughing himself to death 
over our silly trainspotterish need to know.  I'm gonna grab shaggy and 
scooby and hop in the the mystery machine for a quick drive, to unmask the 
true culprit behind all this naming nonsense.

Micheal Knight



Claude Young ID help...

2000-10-03 Thread darw_n
I have an older mix tape by Mr. Young called "DEXIT", it's one of those
bootleg looking ones, with a pink sticker label...

Anyways, I am interested in, well, in all the tracks on the first side.

These tracks are all pretty recognizable...

thanks if anyone has any input at all...

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
http://www.mp3.com/darw_n
http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html
http://www.mannequinodd.com




Re: [313] web sites

2000-10-03 Thread peter mueller
www.force-inc.com

www.kompakt-net.de

www.klang-elektronik.de

don't know about chain reaction.

peter
 
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Subject: [313] web sites


>hi, does anyone know if any of the following labels have web sites, 
>chain-reaction, kompact, klang, force inc germany, 
>
>any links would be very much appreciated :) 
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web sites

2000-10-03 Thread strider
hi, does anyone know if any of the following labels have web sites, 
chain-reaction, kompact, klang, force inc germany, 

any links would be very much appreciated :) 



RE: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread Tek NZ
>From my experience its a big waste of all important DJ time trying to find
the sleeve that the record came out of, putting the record in the sleeve,
putting the record back in my box... I tend to stack them and then sort out
everything once I have finished my set.

joseph

[teknz i:o]


]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
] i was there too, but didnt see any barrel.  however i have
]heard from some people that he is known for dropping aq track
]then tossing it over his shoulder.  i thought it was for
]entertainment purposes...maybe not.  must be nice to have such
]an extensive record collection.
]
]jealous

]-Original Message-
]From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
}
]I saw juan atkins do something close to that too...he would
]take the records
]out of the sleeves and play them and then toss them on the floor in a
]pile...2 piles actually.  one for the sleeves and one for the
]vinyl...i wish
]i had all those records so that i didn't have to take care of
]my either...it
]could have been because he was really stoned...
]jeff
]



Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread darw_n
>>.  i thought it was for entertainment purposes...maybe not.


I am pretty sure it's that putting the record away is too time consuming,
with Mills, that's something that I can understand.  So if there indeed a
barrel, I'm sure it wasn't to throw records away, more rather it was to
contain them for easy recovery after a set...

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
http://www.mp3.com/darw_n
http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html
http://www.mannequinodd.com




Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread peter mueller
well, i think the only reason for doing so is due to the speed of mixing. it
saves a lot of time (but obviously not good for the records).

peter
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> i was there too, but didnt see any barrel.  however i have heard from some
people that he is known for dropping aq track then tossing it over his
shoulder.  i thought it was for entertainment purposes...maybe not.  must be
nice to have such an extensive record collection.
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>jealous
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RE: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread TekHitsHarder
 i was there too, but didnt see any barrel.  however i have heard from some 
people that he is known for dropping aq track then tossing it over his 
shoulder.  i thought it was for entertainment purposes...maybe not.  must be 
nice to have such an extensive record collection.

jealous


Re: [313] website for Larry Heard

2000-10-03 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Try:

http://www.33rpm.com/larryheard/

It's an official site, I think.

Jonny.

> is there a good website for Larry Heard and his catalog???





Re: [313] website for Larry Heard

2000-10-03 Thread Javier Drada

http://www.33rpm.com/larryheard/larryheard.html
http://home.att.net/~alleviated/index.html/



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Subject: [313] website for Larry Heard
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:42:18 EDT

is there a good website for Larry Heard and his catalog???


thanks,
five

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RE: [313] shameless plug, (was Absract Fusion 2 comp.)

2000-10-03 Thread Nathan DeYonker

Glory be! track listing and audio clips of this are up.
http://www.deep4life.com/deeper.html
:)
n8

--On Friday, September 29, 2000 1:38 PM +0800 "Batory, Jason" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Keep an eye out for the next Deep4Life compilation named "Deep South
Experience" which will feature Ewan and also Justin Zerbst and another
local lad whom I can't recall at the moment. Will undoubtably be top
class stuff, as always from D4L.

Respect
JasonB

> Make sure you check out the talent of Ewan Jansen, Odara and the Red
> Ember
>
> crew (straight outta Perth). These guys are producing some damn fine
> house
>
> music... keep your eyes peeled for more vinyl releases in the near
> future.
>
> Damn* Ewan... 'Busted' wasn't on the demo you sent me!
> You holding out on me?  :)  And what's the scoop on Odara?
>
>
> cheers
> ~Askew
>






RE: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread John Shipman
yeah that was the event! LOL.no barrel huh?i did really see it(i
was sober too). you could only get a glimpse of it from the side balconies.
it was probably just a random thing that was on stage and he was just
chucking records that skipped into it. funny. unless he has it in his
contract, " two turntables, one 909, one large trash barrel" :oD 

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> Subject:  Re: [313] mills silliness
> 
> I saw him there in August but I didn't see a barrel


Re: [313] website for Larry Heard

2000-10-03 Thread Jorge Velez

is there a good website for Larry Heard and his catalog???


thanks,
five




Try

http://www.33rpm.com/larryheard/intro.html



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Reaktor documents...

2000-10-03 Thread darw_n
Anyone have a site that has the reaktor program documents...

I have to admit, there are a few things I am stumped on with this program...

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
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website for Larry Heard

2000-10-03 Thread Fiveorange
is there a good website for Larry Heard and his catalog???


thanks,
five


Unwind in A2

2000-10-03 Thread Diana Potts


http://www.chromedecay.org/unwind/








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Re: [313] artists/loot

2000-10-03 Thread FRED MCMURRY

I'm wondering how many electronic artists (especially in the US ),
have full time jobs (not related to their music).


Larry Heard works for a radio station in Memphis...but that should be common 
knowledge by now.


Fred



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Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread Fiveorange
I saw him there in August but I didn't see a barrel


Re: DJ sillyness

2000-10-03 Thread fab137
Could it be some sort of sperstar djs trend?
it seems lika an urban legendlike albino alligators in the sewers LOL

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FW: [313] artists/loot

2000-10-03 Thread FC3 Richards



> I know that Steve Poindexter owns his own security company (i can't
> remember who told me this, Vidal possibly??).  aparently that ghetto mofo
> doesn't make enough money through D-Jax and from spinning at parties to
> make it...that might explain why all of his records sound like they were
> recorded 10 years ago...even the new ones.
> jeff
>  
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Perry, Jeff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Tuesday, October 03, 2000 5:34 AM
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:[313] artists/loot
> > 
> > I'm wondering how many electronic artists (especially in the US ), have
> > full
> > time jobs (not related to their music).   What do you think? After
> reading
> > todd sines' article about the music business on hyperreal ( and various
> > other
> > sources) It seems as though it is extremely tough to make enough money
> to
> > support yourself.
> > 
> >   I'm not talking about support like, " See my brand new
> >  Analogamaticuberfilter XK6, it matches the color on my BMW ." 
> >  I mean support like, " Damn, I guess I'm eating macaroni and
> > cheese...AGAIN  (staring a a box of newly pressed vinyl and
> > wondering if.. just in case, vinyl is edible)
> > 
> >   It seems for the up and coming artists money would play a big factor
> > in breaking out.  It can cost alot of money to press your own records,
> buy
> > equipment, move out of your mom's house, etc.
> > 
> > 
> > Anyway I was wondering if anyone out there wondered about the same
> thing.
> > 
> > 
> > peace
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RE: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread FC3 Richards
I saw juan atkins do something close to that too...he would take the records
out of the sleeves and play them and then toss them on the floor in a
pile...2 piles actually.  one for the sleeves and one for the vinyl...i wish
i had all those records so that i didn't have to take care of my either...it
could have been because he was really stoned...
jeff

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> From: David Gillies [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:30 AM
> To:   John Shipman; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject:  Re: [313] mills silliness
> 
> 
> The closest I've seen to this is when I saw DJ Krush a couple of years
> back.
> On the stage that he was playing on, he had a pretty darn large pile, no
> heap, of records, out of their covers, just thrown there in a big heap. He
> would rummage through them to find what he wanted, and when he was
> finished
> playing them, he would just throw them back onto to the floor.
> 


Sound Sheets

2000-10-03 Thread joe beuckman
You know, those magazine inserts that you can play on your record players.  
Anyone know where I could get some produced?


Thanks
Joe



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Re: [313] Re: PS => Tom Churchill in Singapore and Taipei

2000-10-03 Thread COLLIN CHEN
Hey all,

>He won't respond for a bit coz he's off sunning himself at the Big Chill
>in Naxos. That's if he ever gets there due to the ferry sinking before
>his posse got to Athens to catch it.

Well for sure He will be in town here in SIngapore and Taipei to rock some
asses BIG time with his wicked deejay set for sure. I am for sure be one of
those on the floor grooving away!!! Check out the website for
details at www.fluid-mix.com for the parties that Tom will be playing.

Your friend in SIngapore,

Collin



Re: [313] Kid A

2000-10-03 Thread Diana Potts


agreed. agreed. there's nothing better than when a group progresses 
naturally than skipping steps-esp. with the "electronic rock" sound. 
radiohead is one of those groups that have mastered the art of progression 
and thank god finally a group who made the move to a more electronic driven 
area with taste and skill-in true radio head fashion. I was happy to hear 
National Anthem too-shows they can still rock out.


for those who can't wait I believe there are tracks on mp3crackhouse.com (if 
they are still up?) and *gasp* Napster.;)



d
cs:unwind.






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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Kid A
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 09:59:35 EDT

I had the joy of purchasing the new Radiohead album last night. Highly
recommended and I guarentee is destined to be looked upon as a classic
album. Worth every penny.

Peace,

Kyeo
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Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread David Gillies
> records. i could swear i saw him finishing a mix and throwing the records
in
> the barrel more than once. did anybody else see this? i found this quite
> amusing, and i want that barrel:)

The closest I've seen to this is when I saw DJ Krush a couple of years back.
On the stage that he was playing on, he had a pretty darn large pile, no
heap, of records, out of their covers, just thrown there in a big heap. He
would rummage through them to find what he wanted, and when he was finished
playing them, he would just throw them back onto to the floor.

Aaargh! It was painful to watch.

out.
dave.


Re: [313] Kid A

2000-10-03 Thread Dr. Nick Riviera


I absolutely second that. Somebody's been listening to Autechre in that 
band. Great record.


There's one track on the new album that reminds me of an old Ersatz Audio 
track. I've been a close follower of this band for years (one of the few 
rock groups I enjoy) and they never seem to let me down.


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Re: [313] Kid A

2000-10-03 Thread Jorge Velez

I had the joy of purchasing the new Radiohead album last night. Highly
recommended and I guarentee is destined to be looked upon as a classic
album. Worth every penny.

Peace,

Kyeo




I absolutely second that. Somebody's been listening to Autechre in that 
band. Great record.


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So what ever happened to.....

2000-10-03 Thread Deliverator
the 313 list t-shirts?  I remember lots of discussion, but did anything ever
come of it?

out

jim (who doesn't really need *another* t-shirt, but..)



Kid A

2000-10-03 Thread Dr. Nick Riviera
I had the joy of purchasing the new Radiohead album last night. Highly 
recommended and I guarentee is destined to be looked upon as a classic 
album. Worth every penny.


Peace,

Kyeo
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Re: [313] who stole the soul?

2000-10-03 Thread Hugh G. Blaze

Nick wrote:



I don't wanna discuss the politics that's all. Ppl get
hurt, we all know about it, it's gonna be a touchy
area until ppl stop pointing out the differences and
start pointing out the similarities. We're all the
same, you know that... It's why Muslims and Jews are
at each others throats in Jerusalem.

Yeah someone needs to tell those people they're worshiping the same God. 
Good point about the differences vs. similarities, though. Kinda like is the 
glass half full or half empty, you can look at either way.

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Re: [313] Back On Topic Please!

2000-10-03 Thread Nick Walsh
> Dickweed

This is what he should be called anyhow... A bit like
Judge (family) Jewels and Carl Cocks

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Re: [313] techno David Hasselhoff albums...

2000-10-03 Thread Nick Walsh
How much you want fer it?

Nick(Dj Pacific:)

Ps. I'm serious BTW.
--- FRED MCMURRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Re:
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> 
> It didn't make the AMG list but I do happen to have
> a really rockin' electro 
> piss-take of the Knight Rider theme tune along with
> three other Knight Rider 
> related tunes with KITT in the title...the single is
> acutally called Michael 
> Knight and it has some hip-house style rapping...
> I couldn't pass it up!
> 
> Fred
> 
> 
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> >Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno
> >Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 06:40:37 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >  > Hmmm...this brings a whole new light to those
> David
> > > Hasselhoff albums...
> > >
> > > http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B142889
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> >Whooohooo!!! Is this stuff available on vinyl??;)
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Re: [313] carl craig track id

2000-10-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 10/3/00 1:06 AM, ryan burns at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> He played this track with vocals that sound like the pop artist
> STING, i think..  the vocals say "the world is going down" or something like
> that.  does anyone know what it is?

You're probably describing the recent remix, but the original is the Police,
from their 1980 release, Zenyatta Mondatta.  This album has always had a
place in producers' hearts ("Voices Inside My Head" anyone?)
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Re: [313] who stole the soul?

2000-10-03 Thread Nick Walsh
> the idea is that techno has difficulty gathering a 
> large listening audience because it defies strict  
> boundaries and racial identities (i.e. it contains 
> both "black" and "white" elements.)

Yeah, I like that... a sound with no race connected. I
mean a black guy invented techno as we know it, right?
Doesn't mean he owns it tho... I guess... What about
asian ppl, they do a heck of a lot for music and
stuff:) 

I don't wanna discuss the politics that's all. Ppl get
hurt, we all know about it, it's gonna be a touchy
area until ppl stop pointing out the differences and
start pointing out the similarities. We're all the
same, you know that... It's why Muslims and Jews are
at each others throats in Jerusalem.

l8r,
Nick (Dj Pacific:)

Ps. Hard house sux... LOL;)

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DJ Mag top 100

2000-10-03 Thread Oul Shakur



sorry in advance if someone has already posted a message similiar to this,

if you have the time why dont you go to www.djmag.com and vote for your top 
5 dj's


it would be great if we had some techno dj's getting near the top for a 
change and beating those judge jules and lish lashes fools


here is what i voted

1. Ben Sims
2. Jeff Mills
3. Surgeon
4. Richie Hawtin
5. Space Djz

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mills silliness

2000-10-03 Thread John Shipman
don't know why i'm thinking of this but i am so.the last time i saw
mills(limelight) he had a large size trash barrel in back of him near his
records. i could swear i saw him finishing a mix and throwing the records in
the barrel more than once. did anybody else see this? i found this quite
amusing, and i want that barrel:)  


Re: [313] artists/loot

2000-10-03 Thread Dan Sicko
Seems like right around 94-96 it started to become much more of a 
full-time job, at least among Detroit's producers.


Of course it helps if you have a healthy string of DJ bookings.

-d


I'm wondering how many electronic artists (especially in the US ), have full
time jobs (not related to their music).   What do you think? After reading
todd sines' article about the music business on hyperreal ( and various
other
sources) It seems as though it is extremely tough to make enough money to
support yourself.

  I'm not talking about support like, " See my brand new
 Analogamaticuberfilter XK6, it matches the color on my BMW ."
 I mean support like, " Damn, I guess I'm eating macaroni and
cheese...AGAIN  (staring a a box of newly pressed vinyl and
wondering if.. just in case, vinyl is edible)

  It seems for the up and coming artists money would play a big factor
in breaking out.  It can cost alot of money to press your own records, buy
equipment, move out of your mom's house, etc.


Anyway I was wondering if anyone out there wondered about the same thing.


peace


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artists/loot

2000-10-03 Thread Perry, Jeff
I'm wondering how many electronic artists (especially in the US ), have full
time jobs (not related to their music).   What do you think? After reading
todd sines' article about the music business on hyperreal ( and various
other
sources) It seems as though it is extremely tough to make enough money to
support yourself.

  I'm not talking about support like, " See my brand new
 Analogamaticuberfilter XK6, it matches the color on my BMW ." 
 I mean support like, " Damn, I guess I'm eating macaroni and
cheese...AGAIN  (staring a a box of newly pressed vinyl and
wondering if.. just in case, vinyl is edible)

  It seems for the up and coming artists money would play a big factor
in breaking out.  It can cost alot of money to press your own records, buy
equipment, move out of your mom's house, etc.


Anyway I was wondering if anyone out there wondered about the same thing.


peace



RE: [313] Re: Moodymann in NYC

2000-10-03 Thread Jongsma, K.J.


>  Moodymann was passing out records? 
>  Oh no. 
>  Someone please supply a tracklisting
>  and label # on this, unless it is the
>  Peacefrog 095-1 promo ("Don't You
>  Want My Love" b/w "Me and My People's
>  Eyes"). I finally get the Grassroots 12"
>  info, think the damn KDJ discography is
>  done, and then 

I would highly recommend the new Moodymann on Peacefrog, i just bought it
last week and it is 'buy on sight'.

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Re: [313] techno David Hasselhoff albums...

2000-10-03 Thread electric seth
you actually have this? I heard DMX crew play it a while ago at the orbit 
and it rocked like a coked-up romanian orphan, how much do you want for it??


Seth


It didn't make the AMG list but I do happen to have a really rockin' electro
piss-take of the Knight Rider theme tune along with three other Knight Rider
related tunes with KITT in the title...the single is acutally called Michael
Knight and it has some hip-house style rapping...
I couldn't pass it up!

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Tory techno

2000-10-03 Thread electric seth

From today's Guardian newspaper, discussing the new stage props and
backdrops to be used at this year's Conservative Party conference >which
starts today:



And, in a further change to get pacemakers racing, string quartets >have

been replaced with rousing techno music. <



Somehow I doubt it...



I reckon this techno is probably Massive Attack's "Unfinished Sympathy" 
which they have used before without consultation. AFAIK the band are now 
seeking legal advice because of the unsolicited and unwanted political 
association...


Mind you if W.Hague's drinking habits continue to increase (32 Rum & Coke's 
anyone?) he'll have been a smiley t-shirt crackwhore raver before long, with 
fond memories of the song from his time at all the best Bristol sound 
systems...


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tHE WORLD IS RUNNING DOWN TRACK id

2000-10-03 Thread Jan Claeyssens
It was a bootleg that originaly came out around the Mimami Winter
Conference. Now it has been released officially on Pagan. It is Different
Gear Vs. The Police : When The World Is Running Down.

JayCee


RE: [313] R. Harvey explanation?

2000-10-03 Thread FC3 Richards
I think these are all just cases of identity chrisis...how many names has
Juan Atkins recorded under???  Kevin Saunderson???  he's the man of a
million names...
jeff

> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Prince [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:25 AM
> To:   janos
> Cc:   313
> Subject:  [313] R. Harvey explanation?
> 
> Interesting. But, does this 'Dean Cole' do everything under a pseudonym? I
> only mention this because: 
> 
> 1. Regis: Gymnastics (Downwards) credits Richard Harvey with the 
> photograph
> 2. V/A: Hard Education (Downwards) states that 2 Female tracks are
> "written by R. Harvey"
> 3. Female: Angel Plague (Downwards) credits the layout & design to R.
> Harvey
> 
> BTW, the (all-User) Serial Scratch mix cd is well worth picking up.
> 
> Wes
> 
> On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, janos wrote:
> 
> > Hi again friends...
> > 
> > Dean Cole AKA Richard Harvey AKA User records, first came into contact
> with
> > music while attending various heavy blues parties. His uncle operated
> the
> > legendary ROADBLOCK Sound System.  The ACID HOUSE explosion of 88 took
> hold
> > of the fifteen year olds imagination and was soon experimenting with
> Cheap
> > keyboards  & drum machines.  Various trips to New York brought another
> > influence the mighty 'Franky Bones', creating sampling brought new
> > possibilities to Cole's approach to making music.  He purchased a
> sampler
> > and began to utilize rhythms and sounds from various sources to create
> heavy
> > up-to date trax with tip off the hat to the early innovators of dance
> > electronica.  Dean Cole prefers to remain in the background giving max
> > respect to the originators. While people may criticize his methods,
> there is
> > no argument to the power of his trax on the dance floor.
> > 
> > It really is a case of 'Shut Up and Dance'.
> > 
> > And once again:  It's all here...
> > User records  http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO397760e6cd224
> > 00A http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO3977616c75a67
> > Corrsion   http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO39775e70b3c77
> > 
> > 
> > Peace
> > janos
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > And I believe that richard harvey is also an alias...
> > >
> > > At 11:39 PM -0700 10/1/00, john holmes wrote:
> > > >richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is
> > > >from london, he is also know as "user" which is some
> > > >of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that
> > > >appear on the decks, efx, & 909 disc.
> > > >
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Re: [313] Fw: [313] R. Harvey explanation?

2000-10-03 Thread e&a rinon
From: "Carissa Tintinalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Question: I picked up a white label a few weeks ago with "DW 009"
> etched on the insidewould it be a Downwards release?
> 
no
it's the(excelent) Endow ep on dow recds

e,r



Re: [313] BT / Software music

2000-10-03 Thread Christian Bloch
and of course thay use reaktor!!!

Christian Bloch
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Tresor/Funque Droppings/LL/Simple Muzik/Deep Night Essentials


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To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:39 AM
Subject: RE: [313] BT / Software music


> Naa.. it's Max/MSP... even says so on their site.  www.cycling74.com
> 
> Ryan Heard
> 
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> Subject: Re: [313] BT / Software music
> 
> 
> I read an article in Wire about monolake a long time ago where they say that
> they use a program for the Mac
> called Minimal Structure. I did a bunch of searches for it at the time but
> couldn't find it anywhere. Does
> anyone know anything about this program?
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Re: [313] Fw: [313] R. Harvey explanation?

2000-10-03 Thread Christian Bloch
no, downwards 12" is called LINO and  lps are called DNLP

Christian Bloch
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From: "Carissa Tintinalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Fw: [313] R. Harvey explanation?


> 
> 
> >richard harvey is not regis/female to my knowledge. but here's the >scoop, 
> >a well-kept secret. karl o'conner - to many known as regis - >is also pete 
> >sutton - to many known as female. he owns and runs >downwards.
> 
> Question: I picked up a white label a few weeks ago with "DW 009"
> etched on the insidewould it be a Downwards release?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
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Re: [313] ms player, was: richard harvey explanation

2000-10-03 Thread Sakari Karipuro
darw_n wrote:
> 
> > There are four of Richie's tracks on the DE9 CD; these being the four
> > Orange mixes (Orange/Minus 1, Orange/Minus 2, Minus/Orange 2 and
> > Minus/Orange 1).  I don't know if the MS player pulls track info from
> > CDDB or what, but like many Microsoft products it's obviously
> > producing erroneous results.
> 
> That's what I thought to, but every CD I put in, is completely accurate, my
> Cure CD's (don't laugh) actually have the year next to each track...
> 
> No, the data is certainly entered in like that...
> 
> I am very curious about this...
> 

now seems like microsoft isn't into electronic music, right? 
anyway, methinks it's just some plain cddb thing and somebody didn't
want to type in all the track names correctly. or then again, this might
be conspiracy against m$.. ;)


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Re: [313] ESI Festival Lansing

2000-10-03 Thread Steven T Lammers
..Another former Record Time employee...  ;)  Never heard him play.

HP

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Re: [313] carl craig track id

2000-10-03 Thread Fiveorange
that does sound like Sting.


carl craig track id

2000-10-03 Thread ryan burns


the other day i heard this carl craig live mix, he starts out with ST. 
GERMAIN.  He played this track with vocals that sound like the pop artist 
STING, i think..  the vocals say "the world is going down" or something like 
that.  does anyone know what it is?

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Re: [313] planned dj sets, derrick may

2000-10-03 Thread darw_n
I am curious about two things here...


> too much rigidity and analysis right there!

how so?


>if you don't have da funk, you
> don't have the funk. period. havin' da funk means you can transcend ANY
> musical category / genre, and adapt to ANY situation, without need for
> practice, nor analysis.


But what happens when you have the funk AND a brain??  Look, obviously your
right on that aspect, BUT I can not seem to understand why people are so
against looking deeper into this music.  I mean every art movement has had
intellectual bent, but for some reason, that is appalling to us...

why?

anyways, whats the scoop about DEMF?  Does anyone think the magic can roll
over to next year?

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Re: [313] Re: Moodymann in NYC

2000-10-03 Thread Fiveorange
hey but I want that one too!!!


Re: [313] Re: Moodymann in NYC

2000-10-03 Thread Fiveorange
this record says "Analog Live" on one side and "Rehearsals 8/8/00"

I'm guessing it's a promo


peace,
five


Re: Moodymann in NYC

2000-10-03 Thread AeOtaku
Moodymann was passing out records? 
Oh no. 
Someone please supply a tracklisting
and label # on this, unless it is the
Peacefrog 095-1 promo ("Don't You
Want My Love" b/w "Me and My People's
Eyes"). I finally get the Grassroots 12"
info, think the damn KDJ discography is
done, and then 

Matt


Re: [313] planned dj sets, derrick may

2000-10-03 Thread debonair
too much rigidity and analysis right there! if you don't have da funk, you
don't have the funk. period. havin' da funk means you can transcend ANY
musical category / genre, and adapt to ANY situation, without need for
practice, nor analysis. when you guyz complain about millz / may et al, you
must realize that they usually travel wit the same 2 boxes: they ain't doin'
no "sultan of brunei - let's test out theze mothas' baggage handling
systemz". imagine, if they could take a container of records with
them..[ and, if derrick could take hiz entire wardrobe], tha serious
damage these brothaz would do! too much analysis killz any other skillz you
may possess - you gotta FEEL!. the same deal applies to sex. out.
bond.
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> My opinion of this is that I feel it depends on your approach, either you
> playing for the dance, or your playing on a more fluid and compositional
> level...
>
> If your playing primarily towards the dancers, than you need to be able to
> shift directions at any given time.
>
> But if your more of the "here's my thought" type of DJ, playing for the
> composition, than a set is often more appealing...
>
> The best ones of coarse flip around.  Playing their piece in-between
> segments of playing the dancers piece...
>
> I carry what I call my "book marked" pieces, in which three or so records
> simple *must* be together, then I vary those chunks around...
>
> But if the "set" is amazing, then by all means, play the set.
>
> darw_n
>
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> Subject: Re: [313] planned dj sets, derrick may
>
>
> > Most of the time he seems to be working from the same
> > crate, if you will, and maybe has a few new records
> > thrown in. I can't really get tired of it though. He
> > does it so damn well.
> >
> > Now, I'm probably bating more flame, but I like to
> > plan my sets within reason, and I've been spining
> > vinyl for over six years. I think I posted about this
> > a long time ago, and the reaction was not too good,
> > especially from a Detroit audience. My problem is
> > this: I am not a professional DJ. I have limited time,
> > particularly when I'm focusing on making music, so
> > when I practice before I spin out, I like to try and
> > get an idea of the set I'm going to play. Sometimes
> > I'll try to work out two distinct house and techno
> > sets, and sort of merge them together when I play live
> > in a new way, using a lot of the same songs. It gives
> > me a way to practice mixing the songs I'm going to
> > play without becoming too repetitive for me as a DJ,
> > and the end result still allows me to have some
> > flexibility to respond to the crowd, my whim or time
> > sudden time constraints.
> >
> > I *would* shoot from the hip all the time if I had
> > that luxury. But I've got lots of records, I like to
> > play different records every time I spin (it's a rare
> > song that I play out more than three or four times),
> > and when I don't have a lot of time to practice I
> > "forget" records, and it shows through in my mixing. I
> > think any good DJ will tell you that you need to know
> > your records. Practicing in this way is how I get
> > re-acclimated to the records I hope to play, and helps
> > me sound that much better. I don't think that's such a
> > bad thing, even if it might kill *some* of the
> > spontanaeity towards the beginning of my sets. And
> > even if I've heard some of the set, no one else has,
> > which in my mind is key.
> >
> > Tristan
> >
> > --- Jim Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > what is the general concensus on laying out your
> > > whole set ahead of
> > > time.  I think every time i have seen derrick may
> > > play he has played the
> > >
> > > same tracks in the same order for the mostpart.
> > > Here at the esi fest in
> > >
> > > lansing i swear he played the same set as the demf
> > > (for the most part).
> > > not to show any disrespect but you even see those
> > > guys out there with
> > > pitch speeds and other records listed.  to an extent
> > > its cool when your
> > > picking up skills but what if your the "inovator".
> > > I myself feel
> > > inclined to play what come to mind, granted a couple
> > > of
> > > steady mixes, is'nt that what makes a dj an artist?
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Re: [313] BT / Software music

2000-10-03 Thread richard
That site has to be the funniest thing i've seen in a long time. Very unique
presentation! I loved it. I downlaoded the demo of the M software to check out.
Looks like a pretty cool program.

Ryan Heard wrote:

> Naa.. it's Max/MSP... even says so on their site.  www.cycling74.com
>
> Ryan Heard
>
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>
> I read an article in Wire about monolake a long time ago where they say that
> they use a program for the Mac
> called Minimal Structure. I did a bunch of searches for it at the time but
> couldn't find it anywhere. Does
> anyone know anything about this program?
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Re: [313] Back On Topic Please!

2000-10-03 Thread Phonopsia
And supershere.com would be the new brand of panty hoes that Derrick may is
marketing. :) Sorry...

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>
>> So, hoping to actually get back to 313, I checked out
>> supershere.com as suggested recently, and there are
>> some nice sets from Carl Craig, Derrick May, Colette,
>> Derrick Carter, Mouse On Mars and others. Well worth a
>> visit.
>
>its actually >supersphere.com
>kyle
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Re: [313] The Mayday Mix

2000-10-03 Thread Phonopsia
That would be the version released though Ministry of Sound (UK). And I
believe it's the same mix.

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>>
>> Remember kids, inspect those used CD's carefully!
>>
>
>I bought the cd new but it was from a place I couldn't take it back to
>conveniently!
>
>> Yes it does exist.  And it's worth finding.
>>
>> Derrick May Mix-Up vol. 5  AKA "The Mayday Mix"
>> Sony Music Japan, 1997  cat# 487565 2
>
>The one I (don't) have is a UK issue so whether or not it is the same mix I
>don't know - there are 32 tracks in the mix beginning with Derrick
May/Tyree
>Cooper - Maydays Intro and ending with Silent Phase - Meditive Fusion
(Kenny
>Larkin mix)...
>
>BABY DIDDY
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>> on 10/1/00 3:16 AM, David Hampson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> > This was a 1997 Derek May mix cd I looked around for a long time to
>find,
>> > and when I found one it turned out that what it contained was software
>for
>> > AOL.
>>
>> Remember kids, inspect those used CD's carefully!
>>
>> > Does anyone know if it actually exists
>>
>> Yes it does exist.  And it's worth finding.
>>
>> Derrick May Mix-Up vol. 5  AKA "The Mayday Mix"
>> Sony Music Japan, 1997  cat# 487565 2
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RE: [313] BT / Software music

2000-10-03 Thread Ryan Heard
Naa.. it's Max/MSP... even says so on their site.  www.cycling74.com

Ryan Heard

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I read an article in Wire about monolake a long time ago where they say that
they use a program for the Mac
called Minimal Structure. I did a bunch of searches for it at the time but
couldn't find it anywhere. Does
anyone know anything about this program?



New 7th City releases

2000-10-03 Thread Batory, Jason
Anyone know who produced 7th City 14 & 16? I just noticed them both listed
as white labels.

Respect
JasonB




Re: [313] Back On Topic Please!

2000-10-03 Thread Kyle J Dupuy
 
> So, hoping to actually get back to 313, I checked out
> supershere.com as suggested recently, and there are
> some nice sets from Carl Craig, Derrick May, Colette,
> Derrick Carter, Mouse On Mars and others. Well worth a
> visit. 

its actually >supersphere.com

RE: [313] nsc/ron murphy

2000-10-03 Thread Patrick Wacher
Did I miss something? What happened with nsc/ron?

PEace,
Patrick.

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what's the latest word?

hoping for the best,

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Re: [313] planned dj sets, derrick may

2000-10-03 Thread darw_n
My opinion of this is that I feel it depends on your approach, either you
playing for the dance, or your playing on a more fluid and compositional
level...

If your playing primarily towards the dancers, than you need to be able to
shift directions at any given time.

But if your more of the "here's my thought" type of DJ, playing for the
composition, than a set is often more appealing...

The best ones of coarse flip around.  Playing their piece in-between
segments of playing the dancers piece...

I carry what I call my "book marked" pieces, in which three or so records
simple *must* be together, then I vary those chunks around...

But if the "set" is amazing, then by all means, play the set.

darw_n

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To: "Jim Bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [313] planned dj sets, derrick may


> Most of the time he seems to be working from the same
> crate, if you will, and maybe has a few new records
> thrown in. I can't really get tired of it though. He
> does it so damn well.
>
> Now, I'm probably bating more flame, but I like to
> plan my sets within reason, and I've been spining
> vinyl for over six years. I think I posted about this
> a long time ago, and the reaction was not too good,
> especially from a Detroit audience. My problem is
> this: I am not a professional DJ. I have limited time,
> particularly when I'm focusing on making music, so
> when I practice before I spin out, I like to try and
> get an idea of the set I'm going to play. Sometimes
> I'll try to work out two distinct house and techno
> sets, and sort of merge them together when I play live
> in a new way, using a lot of the same songs. It gives
> me a way to practice mixing the songs I'm going to
> play without becoming too repetitive for me as a DJ,
> and the end result still allows me to have some
> flexibility to respond to the crowd, my whim or time
> sudden time constraints.
>
> I *would* shoot from the hip all the time if I had
> that luxury. But I've got lots of records, I like to
> play different records every time I spin (it's a rare
> song that I play out more than three or four times),
> and when I don't have a lot of time to practice I
> "forget" records, and it shows through in my mixing. I
> think any good DJ will tell you that you need to know
> your records. Practicing in this way is how I get
> re-acclimated to the records I hope to play, and helps
> me sound that much better. I don't think that's such a
> bad thing, even if it might kill *some* of the
> spontanaeity towards the beginning of my sets. And
> even if I've heard some of the set, no one else has,
> which in my mind is key.
>
> Tristan
>
> --- Jim Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > what is the general concensus on laying out your
> > whole set ahead of
> > time.  I think every time i have seen derrick may
> > play he has played the
> >
> > same tracks in the same order for the mostpart.
> > Here at the esi fest in
> >
> > lansing i swear he played the same set as the demf
> > (for the most part).
> > not to show any disrespect but you even see those
> > guys out there with
> > pitch speeds and other records listed.  to an extent
> > its cool when your
> > picking up skills but what if your the "inovator".
> > I myself feel
> > inclined to play what come to mind, granted a couple
> > of
> > steady mixes, is'nt that what makes a dj an artist?
> > jim
> >
> >
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Re: [313] Moby

2000-10-03 Thread Dan Sicko
Fair enough ... I just put in my .02 about his age to counteract the 
"doctoring" of his image.


see, I didn't even mention his name, er pseudonym ... whatever.

-d (reaching for his revolver)  :P


*enough* about Moby, please.

We laid this to rest in 1993 on ne-raves in the fabled "Moby, go away"
thread, after he showed up on alt.rave to whinge at those who were
annoyed with his mimicking actually playing drumpads during his shows
of that era, when it was all on DAT.

So, let Moby be Moby, and let's move on.

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Re: [313] BT / Software music

2000-10-03 Thread richard
I read an article in Wire about monolake a long time ago where they say that 
they use a program for the Mac
called Minimal Structure. I did a bunch of searches for it at the time but 
couldn't find it anywhere. Does
anyone know anything about this program?

Christian Bloch wrote:

> monolake is on the developing team of native instruments, and they 
> practically use nothing BUT reaktor...
>
> Christian Bloch
> www.mp3.com/bloch
>
> Tresor/Funque Droppings/LL/Simple Muzik/Deep Night Essentials
>
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> Subject: RE: [313] BT / Software music
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> > I've heard that some of the Chain Reaction peeps like monolake have run
> > entire live PA's running only Reaktor and using a midi-knob controller to
> > shape the sound.
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Re: [313] Moby

2000-10-03 Thread phred
*enough* about Moby, please.

We laid this to rest in 1993 on ne-raves in the fabled "Moby, go away"
thread, after he showed up on alt.rave to whinge at those who were
annoyed with his mimicking actually playing drumpads during his shows
of that era, when it was all on DAT.

So, let Moby be Moby, and let's move on.

phred


Re: [313] planned dj sets, derrick may

2000-10-03 Thread tristan watkins
Most of the time he seems to be working from the same
crate, if you will, and maybe has a few new records
thrown in. I can't really get tired of it though. He
does it so damn well. 

Now, I'm probably bating more flame, but I like to
plan my sets within reason, and I've been spining
vinyl for over six years. I think I posted about this
a long time ago, and the reaction was not too good,
especially from a Detroit audience. My problem is
this: I am not a professional DJ. I have limited time,
particularly when I'm focusing on making music, so
when I practice before I spin out, I like to try and
get an idea of the set I'm going to play. Sometimes
I'll try to work out two distinct house and techno
sets, and sort of merge them together when I play live
in a new way, using a lot of the same songs. It gives
me a way to practice mixing the songs I'm going to
play without becoming too repetitive for me as a DJ,
and the end result still allows me to have some
flexibility to respond to the crowd, my whim or time
sudden time constraints. 

I *would* shoot from the hip all the time if I had
that luxury. But I've got lots of records, I like to
play different records every time I spin (it's a rare
song that I play out more than three or four times),
and when I don't have a lot of time to practice I
"forget" records, and it shows through in my mixing. I
think any good DJ will tell you that you need to know
your records. Practicing in this way is how I get
re-acclimated to the records I hope to play, and helps
me sound that much better. I don't think that's such a
bad thing, even if it might kill *some* of the
spontanaeity towards the beginning of my sets. And
even if I've heard some of the set, no one else has,
which in my mind is key. 

Tristan

--- Jim Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what is the general concensus on laying out your
> whole set ahead of
> time.  I think every time i have seen derrick may
> play he has played the
> 
> same tracks in the same order for the mostpart. 
> Here at the esi fest in
> 
> lansing i swear he played the same set as the demf
> (for the most part).
> not to show any disrespect but you even see those
> guys out there with
> pitch speeds and other records listed.  to an extent
> its cool when your
> picking up skills but what if your the "inovator". 
> I myself feel
> inclined to play what come to mind, granted a couple
> of
> steady mixes, is'nt that what makes a dj an artist?
> jim
> 
> 
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Re: [313] Moby

2000-10-03 Thread FRED MCMURRY

oh sh*tno pleaseI try to get out but they keep pulling me back in!
All I have to say is this (directly quoted from page 109 of the Oct 2nd Time 
magazine):


A SOUL TO KEEP by Julie Rawe
"What's an eternal soul fetching these days? The one belonging to 
electronica artist MOBY went for a paltry $41 when it was auctioned last 
week on eBay by a former longtime friend. Indie-film director Paul Yates 
claims Moby has been selling out: all 18 songs on his platinum album, PLAY, 
have been licensed for use in commercials and TV shows ranging from Nissan 
ads to Dawson's Creek. Yates also alleges that Moby is trying to doctor his 
image: the musician is now distancing himself from Yates' upcoming comedy, 
PORNO, which includes a scene of Moby playing guitar with two sex toys 
strapped to his head. As executive producer, Moby no longer agrees with the 
film creatively, his manager says. And if the film never makes it to 
theaters, perhaps copies will pop up on eBay."



Fred



From: "J. S. Landau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Moby
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:12:42 -0400

Just thought this was an interesting piece of news I received about
everyone's favorite artist.
Courtesy of Sideline news.

>Moby phones home
>Mute succes Moby is to work together with John Williams, who composed the
>soundtracks for toppers as "ET" and its predecessor "Close Encounters Of
>The Third Kind". Moby and John will be composing the music for a brand 
new

>computer game. The duo will also be writing the score for the cartoon
>"Astro Knights", an animated series about aliens that live on the moon.
>Moby, 28, will also be writing a special dance-track for an "Astro
>Knights" character, the space pirate Bertha Budd. That dance-track will
>most probably be issued as a single.

Moby meets the king of orchestral pop music.  Should be wonderful, really.

Josh Landau
phase 10, the grind
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Back On Topic Please!

2000-10-03 Thread tristan watkins
What the hell is happening to 313? Why is it that a
small minority of posts are 313 relevant and every
post that starts on-topic meanders off in to Sweden or
MTV? Please let's keep the flames, the tempers, the
nazis and all the rest of that crap off list for a
while and see if there is some content to be had. 

To try and get things stated, I'll provide a little
story that shows all is not destroyed in the *world*
of Detroit. I just moved to Baltimore and went to see
95 North and Lil Louis Vega in DC this last weekend
with a couple of fellow 313ers. Due to laundry
circumstances beyond my control, I was wearing my
f*cktrance shirt from DEMF in what I presumed would be
hostile [read: glow-stick infested] territory. Let me
pre-empt flames from those who may have been involved
with the making of the first shirts. Had I known, I
would not have bought my rip-off, not that I don't
like it still - it is a cool shirt. 

So anyway, I'm chillin' on the dancefloor, trying to
get some dancing fuel in me, when a guy with an
ear-to-ear grin wanders up pointing and laughing.
Apparently the guy was from Detroit, he had a posse of
Detroit-lovers with him, and knew the shirt from DEMF.
All of this transpired in a city that's known for an
absence of techno. 

I'm not really sure why that's relevant to on-topic
discussions, but it's got to be better than hearing
about Dickweed, BT, Moby or 313 race wars volume XII
(which has been discussed ad nauseum, at two-month
intervals for at least the last two years). This is
not the right forum for a sophisticated discussion of
race. It's a sensitive topic, and email is not the
right medium for clear communication with strangers
that may be half way around the globe. I'm sure there
are a number of better forums in which to discuss it
online. If nothing else, please take it private if you
want to start a discussion about race in music. It has
all been discussed here way too many times, usually at
a more sophisticated level than what we've seen
lately. Visit the archives if you don't believe me. Or
better yet, I'm sure we could *all* learn some more
about race if we took the time to read more books by
the people who devote themselves to working out the
most complex socal problems of our times. 

And for God's sake, if you think you're "right" about
race, take a step back and realize it's like driving.
Everybody think's their views about race are "right".
Clearly, somebody's gotta be "wrong" if somebody's
"right", and it could be you. So please, take that
into consideration before you start flaming someone on
this list who is probably on a completely different
page of the racism learning curve. This is an
international community after all and race relations
are different everywhere. End rant. If anyone wants to
flame me now, please take it private. That's my point
anyway. 

So, hoping to actually get back to 313, I checked out
supershere.com as suggested recently, and there are
some nice sets from Carl Craig, Derrick May, Colette,
Derrick Carter, Mouse On Mars and others. Well worth a
visit. 

Focus! 

Tristan 

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planned dj sets, derrick may

2000-10-03 Thread Jim Bishop
what is the general concensus on laying out your whole set ahead of
time.  I think every time i have seen derrick may play he has played the

same tracks in the same order for the mostpart.  Here at the esi fest in

lansing i swear he played the same set as the demf (for the most part).
not to show any disrespect but you even see those guys out there with
pitch speeds and other records listed.  to an extent its cool when your
picking up skills but what if your the "inovator".  I myself feel
inclined to play what come to mind, granted a couple of
steady mixes, is'nt that what makes a dj an artist?
jim