Re: [313] (even more spam) RE: Discussion
I say we let Kelley back in. jeff ps 313 or IDM ? long winded and trivial arguments This list was set up by myself to be a forum for the ***discussion*** of Detroit techno artists If you cared to **discuss** the inner workings of your tracks and how they are 313 related, If the tracks are 313 related then what's the problem? -- jeff ?/~THINK OUTSIDE OF YOUR SITCOM~\! ICQ904008 (but I'm never on)
Re: [313] (even more spam)
I think 99% of the degredation of this list is because we've ruled ourselves into a corner. And a boring, humorless corner at that. Poeple are so afraid of not kowtowing to every 313 standard (expressed and implied) that the creativity of posts has steadily decreased to a handful of cookie-cutter topics that get recycled every two months. I can't remember a a day when I DIDN'T see three posts begging forgiveness for being off topic or not relevant enough. It's not good to have the list spiraling out of control with off-topic conversation, but maybe we need to take the blinders off sometimes. Simply put, this list has a stick up its ass. flame on... Perhaps you don't understand my rigidity because you haven't seen the degradation of this list. There used to be quite informative discussions and thoroughly enlightening posts. Now the list is compromised of playlists, track spams for mp3.com, and top ten lists. I now have to sort through 100's of posts just to receive the content I wish to read. So you see the 'no spam' rule was put in place to ensure content, and not advertisement. Sorry to have missed a good spam discussion, if I could have said this all earlier I would have. Cheers i have read the 313 statement plenty of times and it seems quite flexible and open to interpretation to me. so i am surprised that anyone would be so rigid about it and preach that rigidity to fellow 313 members. in fact the general feeling i get from the list is that there are more who approve of Mr Blochs (and others) ghastly sins then there are who disapprove. you may disagree Todd, but if Mr Atkins, Mills or May posted a link to free mp3s i do not think you would be so quick to complain. if you missed the discussion recently about this spam topic you should go thru the archives and if you were not so trigger-happy with the delete key you may not have sore fingers and you wouldn't have missed last weeks ***discussion*** in the first place. i wonder if the people complaining make music themselves? also while we are on topic, i found some great music online which i definitely think pushes techno forward. www.mp3.com/bloch has some brilliant music which may be difficult to ***discuss*** if we never got to hear it.- Original Message - From: Todd Smith To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam) Trust me there is no lack of passion to hear new music, if only I could cut down on hitting that delete key on off topic posts I could do a little more listening and a lot less deleting. The off topic hysteria as you like to dramaticize it as is caused by multiple subscriptions to different lists (at least in my case). Older list members may have different reasons. I have 4 jobs (including Dj'ing) and work a tremendous amount. I joined 313 for 313 content not spam. I could post a million record reviews (I work for a local paper), and could tell you what I got on vinyl this week (I work at a record store as well), but I don't because for the most part it is not 313 related. Please read the 313 statement at www.hyperreal.org todd - Original Message - From: Kao Jyan To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam)i'm sure someone has mentioned this already, but the general consensus a fewweeks ago was that directing others to good FREE music on the web (even ifit is your own) is not that terrible a crime.i don't know if you are just feeling grumpy today or if you have a personalgrudge against Christian but even if you hate his music i hope you are not saying it is not 313 related cause you may cause a riot.i always want to hear new music, your post gives me the impression you may not share this passion. there are plenty of 313 posts that i am not interested in although i like toread them all but i am surprised at the lack of tolerance some 313 membersare displaying with their off topic hysteria. (also i know this is not a Drum Bass list, a Garth Brooks list or even theShopping Network in case anyone thinks i don't, i understand there are other lists elsewhere i would just like to see a little more patience) anyway, back on topic ; ) what Jay Denham stuff would anyone recommend to aBC/CR/Ratio/Hood/Pacou fan? kao jyan - Original Message -From: Todd Smith To: 313@hyperreal.orgSent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam) Last I checked 313 had a policy about spam, and need of 313 content. I didn't join this list for a bunch of artists to throw tracks up online and advertise in my inbox. It was fine for the plus8 contest because that was at least 313 related, however this is just a bit
Re: [313] No Luv?
dj Horsepower wrote: I am not familiar with these DJ's will these be Techno, House? thanks ng Karri and Machine will definitely be techno, but not the kind of techno you're used to hearing around here.. Get ready for a lesson in crazy experimental hijinks with flair. Also watch out for Machine, who likes to breakout some electro booty madness! Whatever you do guys, just please don't give him a mic. ;) G For the flash version of the flyer go here: http://netti.nic.fi/~karri/noluv/ See you on Saturday! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mills' liquidroom 2000...
I have Jeff Mills' complete liquid room set from september up on napster if you are interested, all the fades are taken out, so its the complete set, and I ran it through waves ultramaximizer to enhance the sound... strange the things you can do with computers now... and if you hot list me, I have some other mixes too, including mine... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com
DBX ?'s
yah I'd like to know what happened to all those Accelerate release that were suppose to come out but never did...like a Todd Sines ep called don't stop I've heard it before from some Columbus cronies ;) even Dan had something that suppose to come out...an Accelerate album? ACC rare and unreleased was cool and I'm glad he released that cause those tracks smoke! even Titonton had something that was suppose come out on ACC...whatever happened with that? also what's new with elevate? anythng new coming soon? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Off-topic spam rant (OT)
It is a rare occurrence for me to post, as I am usually content to observe. However, a lot of the petty arguments that have been flying around have started to get me mad, in an 'Incredible Hulk' kind of way. Right about now, I have gone green and ripped my denims... If Mills, Atkins or May posted a link to MP3's I wouldn't as quick to complain because they are 313 related. Damn! It seems to me (correct me if I'm wrong) it is 'OK' to accept such information from 'established' 313 producers, but not from new producers? I'm sure we would all agree that a lot of the change and development in techno is due to new producers and ideas. This does NOT mean that I don't like or respect the work of Mills/Atkins/... (on the contrary) or would feel annoyed if I got a link to their music. Similarly, if anyone known or unknown has something to offer, I want the oppurtunity to check it out. No-one can INSIST a post is off topic through *their* views, arguments, or presentation the '313 bible' - different people have different opinions and tastes. Or did we forget that? I can decide what is off-topic for myself alone. I feel many will want to skip this message, as it doesn not talk about music. Note the (OT) in the subject. See how it works? What DOES make me mad...When a message grows to epic length due to repeated replies. Sure, this is useful for tracing the histroy of a message, but usecommon sense. I don't need to trace the origins of a message back to the stone age, especially when a response is one line, and the tail is a hundred. Come on. My finger hurts from hitting 'Page Down' ;^) Hulk...must kill...BANNER! (all done) N P.S: Sorry if I offended anyone. This is not aimed at any individual. _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
BIG SHOT TRACK ID????
I have a Fumiya Tanaka live set from napster. At some point he drops a track, which sounds like he is saying, I BE BIG SHOT, I BE BIG SHOT, I BE BIG SHOT over and over again. Anyone know what this is?? Cheers, Mike D.
Mike Banks
Hope I won't be considered as an off-topic spammer with the following, but... I'm currently listening a lot to Mike Banks' Soulshine, the last track of his Red Planet comp - and immensely enjoying it ; did RP RIP after RP10 ? any Banks releases outside RP you would point me to ? Gwendal
RE: [313] Mike Banks
Hope I won't be considered as an off-topic spammer with the following, but... I'm currently listening a lot to Mike Banks' Soulshine, the last track of his Red Planet comp - and immensely enjoying it ; did RP RIP after RP10 ? any Banks releases outside RP you would point me to ? Gwendal First of all, The Martian is guy behind Red Planet and not Mike Banks. Mike always denies he is the Martian. But there is a Red Planet EP released on UR. It's the double pack with Suburban Knight, i think it was UR36 but i'm not 100 % sure about this. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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could [EMAIL PROTECTED] please get in contact with me. Good bit of news for the both of us! jason
What's up with RS?
I haven't heard much noise from the RS camp in a while. Am I listening in the wrong places? Whatever happened to RS after the Sony deal? Tosh
Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
As well as those already mentioned I'd suggest Varese, he basically wanted new instruments, so was very interested in electronics, and at times his earlier stuff is a precursor to Sun Ra's 60s output (I hate that kind of classical composer X did it before jazz fella Y argument too - that's not what I'm trying to say, just stick Heliocentric Worlds 2 on after Varese and see what I mean) Try for starters his Offrandes, Integrales and Octandre stuff. I don't know about on CD (I don't have one) but there's an LP on Nonesuch which contains some (if not all, I don't have it to hand) of the above works. Also look out for Desertes - the first stereo broadcast over French airways - and Poeme Electronique, his most well known work. Other folk such as Stockhausen (try for Mixtur, Mikrophonie I II, Kontakte, Momente Originale) Reich (Sonatas and Interludes just begs to be sampled) have already been mentioned. As for first entry into the realm of 20th century Classical, go for the likes of Satie and Debussy (starting with their piano music) - especially the latter, who, if I may be so bold as to say so, is the father of 20th century music, full stop. It's worth picking up different recordings of the same pieces, there can be a massive (and interesting) difference of interpretation. So's to keep the purists happy: I mentioned Sun Ra who worked with Francisco Mora who worked with CARL CRAIG. I also said the word electronics. ;) Jonny. NP: Arthur Russell World Of Echo - seems appropriate to the matter in hand. (Who wanted to make music without drums, which is what DERRICK MAY said he does first when making music.)
RE: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
I remember that quote of May's, about music should be as good without drums as it is with - i.e. it should be able to stand on it's own without the rhythm section. Which is funny considering his pseudonym don't you think, and how many of his tracks are rhythm based? Also, what about the lp he was going to be producing of drummers (were they African?)... whatever has happened to that? And please tell me, is it any day now until the new Black Flag? (massive!) cheers, Dan (trying to keep as on topic as possible!) http://www,geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2000 11:44 To: 313 Subject: Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical As well as those already mentioned I'd suggest Varese, he basically wanted new instruments, so was very interested in electronics, and at times his earlier stuff is a precursor to Sun Ra's 60s output (I hate that kind of classical composer X did it before jazz fella Y argument too - that's not what I'm trying to say, just stick Heliocentric Worlds 2 on after Varese and see what I mean) Try for starters his Offrandes, Integrales and Octandre stuff. I don't know about on CD (I don't have one) but there's an LP on Nonesuch which contains some (if not all, I don't have it to hand) of the above works. Also look out for Desertes - the first stereo broadcast over French airways - and Poeme Electronique, his most well known work. Other folk such as Stockhausen (try for Mixtur, Mikrophonie I II, Kontakte, Momente Originale) Reich (Sonatas and Interludes just begs to be sampled) have already been mentioned. As for first entry into the realm of 20th century Classical, go for the likes of Satie and Debussy (starting with their piano music) - especially the latter, who, if I may be so bold as to say so, is the father of 20th century music, full stop. It's worth picking up different recordings of the same pieces, there can be a massive (and interesting) difference of interpretation. So's to keep the purists happy: I mentioned Sun Ra who worked with Francisco Mora who worked with CARL CRAIG. I also said the word electronics. ;) Jonny. NP: Arthur Russell World Of Echo - seems appropriate to the matter in hand. (Who wanted to make music without drums, which is what DERRICK MAY said he does first when making music.) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
From: debonair [EMAIL PROTECTED] the obvious are works by philip glass, steve reich, gavin bryars, arvo part. bryars is a fool. jesus blood never failed me is perhaps the lamest tune ever done! others: La Mont Young - his high tension wire pieces sound like pullover by speedy j John Cage - any man that amplifies a cactus is fine by me ;-) Xenakis Stockhausen Feldman more interesting(!) stuff: Nam June Paik, Ben Patterson Reich is the man though... his phase pieces, music for 18 muscians, tellihem (sp?!?!) *swoon* i've heard a lot of remixes of come out ... ken ishii played one last year on NYE... tan... -- graham [tan] wilson - i do because i couldn't care less [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fnord.fishwerx.org/tan
Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
Also, what about the lp he was going to be producing of drummers (were they African?)... whatever has happened to that? I thought it was Sundiata Ohm (sp?) who did some stuff on Prescription. At the time he said it p***ed all over the NuYorican Soul LP. I'm still waiting to see... And please tell me, is it any day now until the new Black Flag? (massive!) I hope I don't have to wait as long for this :) And I STILL haven't seen a copy of The Stand. Jonny.
Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
Reich is the man though... his phase pieces, music for 18 muscians, tellihem (sp?!?!) *swoon* i've heard a lot of remixes of come out ... ken ishii played one last year on NYE... Reich's drumming is fantastic. Its impossible to listen to it and not see the similarities to some techno - some of Rob Hood's stuff (particuarly some of Internal Empire like Minus) springs to mind. Scott.
[Fwd: (amb) As One - Celestial Soul fs/ft]
Forwarding this to more appropos lists for a friend. Reply to Rowland, not me. Thx. jeff Original Message Subject: (amb) As One - Celestial Soul fs/ft Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:00:17 + From: Rowland Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As One : Celestial Soul One mint copy of the above for sale or trade. Let me know if you are interested. (New Electronica 26cd) thanks rA -
Re: [313] (even more spam)!!!
I got so busy at work last night I almost missed out on continuing this conversation. Todd: believe it or not, different people get different information that appeals to them out of 313. Some 313ers got a good discussion and arguement going about the Ford focus thing - which I'll admit I deleted 98% of the emails. However, I'm not concerned about the fact that my poor finger hurts from clicking delete so much. If that set of postings interested people than good for them. Why should we be so narrow minded as to limit ourselves by talking about Jeff Mills, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Claude Young, Juan Atkins, TP, Carl Craig everyday? Everyone is aware of these guys already and can easily find many of their releases as Recordtime. It's the obscure gems out there that people aren't aware of that are impressive too. There really is a new generation of producers and DJs developing in the area right now and it's unfortunate that you don't see it. Many are on this list such as Christian Bloch, Bill Van Loo, Chaircrusher, Nate De Yonker, Phonopsia, Darw_n, Scott Valliance (from Australia I know but you have a Detroit sound) and there are many more out there who are djs. Why not support these guys and they're music instead of spending all of your energy discouraging them from posting their new tracks on 313? Who knows - these guys may be the next Jeff Mills, Kevin Saunderson, Carl Craig, etc that everyone begins to talk about. Don't you want to be aware of a fresh, new sense of creativity? If the members on this list are making some good music don't you think it is 313 related? If they are aware of Detroit Techno enough to be on 313 don't you think they're educated in electronic music enough to make their own decision as to what is appropriate for posting in they're music community? Everyone one on this list and in the world has a different thought process, has different interests, different skills, everyone looks different, everyone talks different etc. Why are you trying to make the assumption that we all want to hear about only the information that interests you? Don't you think that's a bit greedy and self rightious? Maybe you should take a step back and listen to yourself throw your rules around the mailing list. Too many rules spark resistance and rebellion in any society. Please don't try to apply your rules to me. thanks for listening, djr From: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:36:58 -0800 Trust me there is no lack of passion to hear new music, if only I could cut down on hitting that delete key on off topic posts I could do a little more listening and a lot less deleting. The off topic hysteria as you like to dramaticize it as is caused by multiple subscriptions to different lists (at least in my case). Older list members may have different reasons. I have 4 jobs (including Dj'ing) and work a tremendous amount. I joined 313 for 313 content not spam. I could post a million record reviews (I work for a local paper), and could tell you what I got on vinyl this week (I work at a record store as well), but I don't because for the most part it is not 313 related. Please read the 313 statement at www.hyperreal.org todd - Original Message - From: Kao Jyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam) i'm sure someone has mentioned this already, but the general consensus a few weeks ago was that directing others to good FREE music on the web (even if it is your own) is not that terrible a crime. i don't know if you are just feeling grumpy today or if you have a personal grudge against Christian but even if you hate his music i hope you are not saying it is not 313 related cause you may cause a riot. i always want to hear new music, your post gives me the impression you may not share this passion. there are plenty of 313 posts that i am not interested in although i like to read them all but i am surprised at the lack of tolerance some 313 members are displaying with their off topic hysteria. (also i know this is not a Drum Bass list, a Garth Brooks list or even the Shopping Network in case anyone thinks i don't, i understand there are other lists elsewhere i would just like to see a little more patience) anyway, back on topic ; ) what Jay Denham stuff would anyone recommend to a BC/CR/Ratio/Hood/Pacou fan? kao jyan - Original Message - From: Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam) Last I checked 313 had a policy about spam, and need of 313 content. I didn't join this list for a bunch of artists to throw tracks up online and advertise in my inbox. It was fine for the plus8 contest because that was at least 313 related, however this is
Detroit Techno-Whats new?!
Peace.. I have been out of circulation for a while and just felt that urge to return to techno and music all together I would like to know what has happened since then in terms of new techno..Detroit and non-Detroit, I remember when I finally decided to give it a break, DJ Rolando had just released Knights of the Jaguar and Swedish techno was getting pretty big..Whats has happened for the last year in terms of music? Any new faces?What has become of Tresor and alll the new Swedish labels.. Please reply privately cuz I dont want to make it a large, boring thread.. Thanks a lot.. Fahd Al Noor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
RE: [313] Mike Banks / martian
U.R. 29 Dark Energy, Pennington's finest IMHO I'm not sure it can really be called a 'red planet' EP, as it's only mixed by the Martian, all tracks are produced by James Pennington or UR. I was always inclined to believe that the Martian was Mike Banks and this record kind of suggests that; but then perhaps not, I mean if mike wanted his martian persona to remain anonymous, then why put the record out on his label? although maybe that's just a really good cover story and he really is the martian. but then the martian could be trying to throw suspicion onto Mike Banks and... if a man who lies all the time says I am lying Seth First of all, The Martian is guy behind Red Planet and not Mike Banks. Mike always denies he is the Martian. But there is a Red Planet EP released on UR. It's the double pack with Suburban Knight, i think it was UR36 but i'm not 100 % sure about this. _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] What's up with RS?
I know they just released something from Boom Boom Satelites, about 1-2 months ago. It sounded pretty good, and I noticed a couple DJ's playing it recently. That's all.. G Tosh Cooey wrote: I haven't heard much noise from the RS camp in a while. Am I listening in the wrong places? Whatever happened to RS after the Sony deal? Tosh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
Nik Stoltzman wrote: A 'safe' place to start is with the compositions of Steve Reich and Philip Glass. My recommendations are: Steve Reich - Electric Counterpoint - Music For 18 Musicians Philip Glass - Solo Piano - Koyaanisqatsi (he seems to do a lot of film scores) Has anyone ever heard of 'Music for Woods' by Philip Glass. I've never been able to find it on CD or vinyl. Has it ever been released? Cheers, G
RE: [313] Mike Banks / martian
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, electric seth wrote: i've wondered this couple of times but if one listens carefully the red planet series and mad mike records, they do sound quite different. the red planet sound is a bit hollow then again mike has a bit fatter sound. of course different studios are enough for this but i don't think that mad mike is martian. but who knows. final frontier ep on UR has one track that has identical drum patterns to base station 303 on Red Planet 5. so who knows... sakke U.R. 29 Dark Energy, Pennington's finest IMHO I'm not sure it can really be called a 'red planet' EP, as it's only mixed by the Martian, all tracks are produced by James Pennington or UR. I was always inclined to believe that the Martian was Mike Banks and this record kind of suggests that; but then perhaps not, I mean if mike wanted his martian persona to remain anonymous, then why put the record out on his label? although maybe that's just a really good cover story and he really is the martian. but then the martian could be trying to throw suspicion onto Mike Banks and... if a man who lies all the time says I am lying Seth First of all, The Martian is guy behind Red Planet and not Mike Banks. Mike always denies he is the Martian. But there is a Red Planet EP released on UR. It's the double pack with Suburban Knight, i think it was UR36 but i'm not 100 % sure about this. _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betr.: RE: [313] Mike Banks / martian
Isn't this the doublepack that was rejected for Red Planet and released on UR in stead? W electric seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22-11-2000 15:08:51 U.R. 29 Dark Energy, Pennington's finest IMHO I'm not sure it can really be called a 'red planet' EP, as it's only mixed by the Martian, all tracks are produced by James Pennington or UR. I was always inclined to believe that the Martian was Mike Banks and this record kind of suggests that; but then perhaps not, I mean if mike wanted his martian persona to remain anonymous, then why put the record out on his label? although maybe that's just a really good cover story and he really is the martian. but then the martian could be trying to throw suspicion onto Mike Banks and... if a man who lies all the time says I am lying Seth First of all, The Martian is guy behind Red Planet and not Mike Banks. Mike always denies he is the Martian. But there is a Red Planet EP released on UR. It's the double pack with Suburban Knight, i think it was UR36 but i'm not 100 % sure about this. _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betr.: RE: [313] recell/stasis '93 comp
I absolutely love B12. Why not try hunt down their albums? Electro-Soma and Time Tourist? Boith on Warp. Timeless techno IMO. W Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21-11-2000 13:12:49 BTW : I'm agreat fan of Warp, and only recently noticed how many 313 releases they had made, Drexciya, Wild Planet etc... As for B12, I admit some of their rtacks would not have seemed out of place on some Craig or UR albums... Gwendal I'm afraid it is off 313 topic, but cannot resist : Redcell = B12, right ? is this comp comparable to their B12 work ? Gwendal Off topic, why? B12/Redcell (yess same group of people) are defnitly 313. They aint comming from the 313 area but their sound is defintly 313. The B12 albums on Warp have some tracks on them who are previously released on B12 records as Redcell. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bunker
Howdy Folks, Some updates @ bunker: -New audio clips by Legowelt, 8-Bit Rockers and some unreleased Nukubus -Some events -Some general maintenance See ya - TLR drop us a line to be taken off the list == www.globaldarkness.com Welcome to the void www.bunker-records.com www.electro-funk.com
London weekend?
Hi list, anything going on in london this weekend? cheers fab || Web Developer || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || www.deepend.it || If we never looked at things and thought what they might be, we'd still be in the tall grass with the apes. Deepend Roma s.r.l. Via C.A. Racchia, 4 - 00195 Roma - ITALY T +39 06 37 51 23 58 F +39 06 37 51 23 26
Does Anyone Know When Redux Contest Results Will Be Released?
The website still says Nov. 13, but that's also the final date to submit entries... Curious and confused. Tristan --- [tan] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: debonair [EMAIL PROTECTED] the obvious are works by philip glass, steve reich, gavin bryars, arvo part. bryars is a fool. jesus blood never failed me is perhaps the lamest tune ever done! others: La Mont Young - his high tension wire pieces sound like pullover by speedy j John Cage - any man that amplifies a cactus is fine by me ;-) Xenakis Stockhausen Feldman more interesting(!) stuff: Nam June Paik, Ben Patterson Reich is the man though... his phase pieces, music for 18 muscians, tellihem (sp?!?!) *swoon* i've heard a lot of remixes of come out ... ken ishii played one last year on NYE... tan... -- graham [tan] wilson - i do because i couldn't care less [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fnord.fishwerx.org/tan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
on 11/22/2000 8:42 PM, [tan] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bryars is a fool. jesus blood never failed me is perhaps the lamest tune ever done! Possibly you're allergic to Tom Waits? I challenge anyone to listen closely to Sinking of the Titanic in a cold, dark room and tell me Bryars is a fool. Reich is the man though... Agreed. For newbies out there, Reich's Electric Counterpoint was the source for the guitar loop made famous in the Orb's Little Fluffy Clouds. Reich's Drumming, Different Trains, and any of his marimba pieces are indispensable. -- There4IM
Re: [313] Mike Banks / Martian
The Red Planet compilation CD, 'LBH-6251876', names one Will Thomas as The Martian on the insert. Of course, this *could* be another MM identity... Great CD, of course, a must-have unless you already have all the twelves. - Tom Magic Feet
RE: [313] What's up with RS?
The website is also under construction for ages. -Original Message- From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 22 november 2000 15:27 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Tosh Cooey Subject: Re: [313] What's up with RS? I know they just released something from Boom Boom Satelites, about 1-2 months ago. It sounded pretty good, and I noticed a couple DJ's playing it recently. That's all.. G Tosh Cooey wrote: I haven't heard much noise from the RS camp in a while. Am I listening in the wrong places? Whatever happened to RS after the Sony deal? Tosh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAY, SAUNDERSON, AND CRAIG AT MOTOR
damn...it's times like this where i REALLY wish i was back home. derrick may, kevin saunderson, and carl craig will be at the motor tonight. i don't think there will be a simulcast of any sort... shit.
Mike Banks / Martian
Hi guys and gals, Hate to go bursting bubbles, but I actually asked James Pennington last year as to who was behind the Red Plane series. He said that it was Mike Banks, Rolando, Chaos, and himself. He added that he was solely responsible for Red Planet 6. Regards Nick Craddock (Overload Media) -- http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk http://communities.msn.co.uk/darkenergy -- _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, and carl Craig at Motor...
Hey, I am awfully excited about tonight, and I figured I would write something... Two men, who just happen to be a couple of the fathers of techno as we know it, on 4 turntables for 4 hours? Carl Craig, one of the most talented producers ever (wellin my opinion...), doing a five hour set? Mm...A Jedi craves much these things.. Well anyways.I am coming with a whole crew of peepz, and I just hope to experience a good night with other 313'ers that might happen to be there. Thank God (or whatever it is that you thank for things like this..) that these guys still spin around the D! Gotta runmy 12:40 class calls. Waiting for tonight, Stefan _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Mike Banks / Martian
He added that he was solely responsible for Red Planet 6. The best one! James has just gone up in my estimation from, umm, 10 jeu to 11 jeu (Jonny's Estimation Units). :) Jonny.
Re: [313] Does Anyone Know When Redux Contest Results Will Be Released?
Tristan: The website still says Nov. 13, but that's also the final date to submit entries... We've received all the CD-Rs from Sonic Foundry and have been going through the submissions last week. I've narrowed the list considerably and now Rich has the remaining files on his laptop's HD in Japan. I expect him to select something within another week or so. - Craig
Kemp[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thursday Escape the family or be glad you don't have one to escape: Out of the Box presents... Keith Kemp Boomer omegaman Reynolds doors at 9 i forget if its 5 or free... diana _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Waldorf Microwave
From what I've understood through some recent interactions w/ some German friends the waldorf and Nord stuff sits around over in Germany like crazy. A bunch of these cats have nords and microwaves sitting by the wayside while they rock out on there MC-303 groove boxes??!!!?? Pretty entertaining info eh? I always opted for the prior more powerful sound design tools. Although some of Rolands more SERIOUS peices sound real good I've always found them somewhat of a Crayola palette. I guess in the end it's just what you're into. Anyways, they had a few used microwaves for sale for around $250-$300 US and said you can find them all over the place in the $200-$500 range. So If you have any connections at all (including an internet one) maybe it's worth it to search around Germany awhile. And if anyones wondering what this has to do with Detroit Techno, we all write techno all over the 248, 313, and 519 area codes, we just hosted some Germans in to perform a little and to witness Detroit and its techno, and its a discussion of the instrumentation used to make techno music. Nuff said.- DBIT
Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
Reich is the man though... his phase pieces, music for 18 muscians, tellihem (sp?!?!) *swoon* i've heard a lot of remixes of come out ... ken ishii How about Alvin Lucier? It's process music, not classical, but it's related to all the other artists that have been mentioned. Try I Am Sitting In A Room and Music On A Long Thin Wire. Josh Subversion is a waveform process.
expo remixes
What's up with this list? A new set of Kraftwerk remixes by UR gets released and no-one mentions it (apologies if it has been mentioned, but I'm on the digest version)... Stop the circular arguments about spam and talk about this (from Juno this week)... KRAFTWERK: Expo Remix (EMI Germany) double 12: Expo Remix (DJ Rolando remix, Underground Resistance remix, UR Thought 3, UR Infiltrated mixes, Francois K/Rob Rives mix, Orbital mix) (8896126) Anyone bought it yet? I heard one of the UR mixes at the weekend and I though it was pretty cool. Any more thoughts? Cheers, Tom
Re: [313] expo remixes
Sony bad, EMI good ;) From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] expo remixes Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:35:36 + What's up with this list? A new set of Kraftwerk remixes by UR gets released and no-one mentions it (apologies if it has been mentioned, but I'm on the digest version)... Stop the circular arguments about spam and talk about this (from Juno this week)... KRAFTWERK: Expo Remix (EMI Germany) double 12: Expo Remix (DJ Rolando remix, Underground Resistance remix, UR Thought 3, UR Infiltrated mixes, Francois K/Rob Rives mix, Orbital mix) (8896126) Anyone bought it yet? I heard one of the UR mixes at the weekend and I though it was pretty cool. Any more thoughts? Cheers, Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] expo remixes
please tell me that it was released on CD does Recordtime have it? Mike From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] expo remixes Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:35:36 + What's up with this list? A new set of Kraftwerk remixes by UR gets released and no-one mentions it (apologies if it has been mentioned, but I'm on the digest version)... Stop the circular arguments about spam and talk about this (from Juno this week)... KRAFTWERK: Expo Remix (EMI Germany) double 12: Expo Remix (DJ Rolando remix, Underground Resistance remix, UR Thought 3, UR Infiltrated mixes, Francois K/Rob Rives mix, Orbital mix) (8896126) Anyone bought it yet? I heard one of the UR mixes at the weekend and I though it was pretty cool. Any more thoughts? Cheers, Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
Apologies for drawing this out... on 11/22/2000 6:01 PM, Sam Karmel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should check out Reich's electric counterpoint Its 12 tracks of steve vie playing guitar. Reich mixes them in a truly beautiful and creative way. Not Steve Vie. Not even Steve Vai (ugh). It's Pat Metheny. http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=A146128 It would be cool to do a remix of this except the time signatures are to complex. Too complex for who? Who needs a straight 4/4 for a remix? -- There4IM
