Lil Louis
This information is from the deephouse page.. For those interested I've heard that Alton Miller will have Lil Louis in Detroit on May 5th. It will be at the Charles Johanson art gallery. Very lucky 313 people.. Dinesh
keyboards
wonderin if ya'll could help me i'm buyin my first keyboard,and i want one with spacey and warm sorta sounds on it. vibey deep sounds. any suggestions . peace Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015
In The Mood For Technasia
I think Technasia are making some really great tracks - has anyone heard their album Future Mix, it's off the hook. I can't stop playing it (that and DJ T1000 mix-CD). I love the different influences and textures in the music - from classic Detroit sounds to retro rave sounds to tech-house - and the way the album has been threaded together using a loose radio show concept. There is also a subtle Asian influence (one of Technasia lives in Hong Kong, the other in France). Anyone else have any comments on this?
Re: [313] record shops worldwide..
--- janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm putting together a list of worldwide record hops. There was some a few days ago, but i need more. Tell me about good record shops in your city and others that you know... For the obscure traveller, in Perth, West Oz.: Complex Records 142 William St Perth Proprietor by the name of Ben Stinga, top bloke, excellent store. All new stuff, everything from Schranz to Click to Neuhaus (or Funkenhaus as I like to call it) to deep Chi-style haus to Detroit house, to Detroit techno to Latino influences. Everything! -Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Re: no subject
on 9/4/01 8:01 AM, Tim Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that people who are good enough will make money. That's all there is to it. Just my two cents... =) Hold on to that two cents man, you seem to value it more than most.
Re: [313] Original v. Replica, Private v. Public - WAS [Re: [313] Re: IP issues [LONG]]
Phonopsia wrote: So what are the general benefits to the public of copying? It sounds to me that the benefit of copying is the unimpeded sharing of information. Conceptually, this is a great idea. In practice I don't think this leaves us any way to support an artistic community. Perhaps. John Perry Barlow has something interesting thoughts on this: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.10/download.html I'm not as optimistic/enthusiastic as him, but there may be some validity in what he's saying. Otto
Re:[313] Andres - Moodymann
my best guess is that andres is indeed moodymann, the music indicates this and also the 'funded by MM' etched in the record would point in that direction RD the reference kdj-024 is edited for Andres,Who is Andres ? is Moodymann ? Thanks in advance Jose ___ Do You Yahoo!? Envía mensajes instantáneos y recibe alertas de correo con Yahoo! Messenger - http://messenger.yahoo.es - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signup for FREE email and member home pages at http://www.turkey.com
New Morgan Geist EP (was Morgan Geist)
I don't know what Morgan Geist is like as a DJ, but last week I bought 'Metro Area 3' on Environ, and the a-side of that EP is just totally heavenly. It has just totally blown me away from the very first moment I heard it. It's so utterly beautiful is seems even pointless trying to describe it... He has my vote :-) RD Hello folks! Can anybody give me a comment about Morgan Geist as a DJ? What kind of stuff does he spin? Does he play more house or the technoid stuff? Thanx in advance.. Arne Weinberg Propaganda Rec./Groundzero Rec. °°° - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signup for FREE email and member home pages at http://www.turkey.com
Re: [313] Lil Louis Out of Napster
no flames but I disagree, I think that all musicians have the right to forbid that their music is available on Napster I love Lil Louis records and it is indeed very difficult to find them, but not impossible. It has taken me a lot of webtime and a lot of hard cash, but I have found most or all of his essential stuff one way or the other. You shouldn't always settle for the easy way! RD : Lil Louis,like the Beatles or Metallica,is forbidding : his tracks on Napster. : That man is very jealousy of his music,any comments? this is a pretty silly move it's so difficult to get his records anyway... now less people are gonna have access to his music. as i was just discussing with a friend we would by his records as soon as we saw them regardless if we had them in mp3 format or not. i do understand that it is his music and he has the right, but it seems a little weird to me. flames?? tan... -- graham [tan] wilson - MNEMIC IMAGE [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fnord.fishwerx.org/tan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signup for FREE email and member home pages at http://www.turkey.com
Duh..... you said the answer right there
From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what are the general benefits to the public of copying? It sounds to me that the benefit of copying is the unimpeded sharing of information. Conceptually, this is a great idea. In practice I don't think this leaves us any way to support an artistic community. I want to emphacize this part: In practice I don't think this leaves us any way to support an artistic community. Do you know why? Because the artistic community has NOT presented us a way to support them within the new context in which we exist. And the only way to change entrenched communities is via confrontation, otherwise they will prefer to exist in entropy. We will pay, we have payed in the past and we will continue to pay but they (the artistic community) have to hold out a new hat for us to support them with. Tosh
Re: [313] Lil Louis Out of Napster
to be honest, i would not really appreciate my music being distributed thru other channels than those i can monitor. i feel my music does not stop with the plain tracks, the whole presentation(titles, format(vinyl)) is essential for what i do.. besides that i like to keep a certain amount of control over em.. to know what people think about it as well as whose involved in the distribution of the item. It´s the same with tings like mix cd´s i like to be able to say no if i don´t believe in the concept.. besides that in the end the tracks r my property so its a matter of respect. every copy has been manufactured carefully and handled by the people i consider to b the best in the world in what they do... give the pressing plant and the mastering-company some respect and buy the vinyl so we can all get ahead in this industry, we really need ur support ..( respect to MPO, Pole at DM and Michiel at SSR, u make the record so much more than just the tracks..) When u r just a small artist things like napster keep ur music smal, no money to build my studio in what it should be and i still have to work 40hours 5 days a week and still run the label, do the artwork and stuff, step into the studio and all...this way i can never find the time to do more stuff, hope u can all feel this. maybe one day we will be really out there instead of those corporate boys...till then i guess i just have to wait for some free time and work 24/7. 154
Re: [313] Duh..... you said the answer right there
Good point. Incidentally, Daft Punk are tackling this with their 'Daft Club' concept - that was the idea anyway. Because the artistic community has NOT presented us a way to support them within the new context in which we exist. And the only way to change entrenched communities is via confrontation, otherwise they will prefer to exist in entropy. We will pay, we have payed in the past and we will continue to pay but they (the artistic community) have to hold out a new hat for us to support them with.
Re: glasgow 313ers
Hey all, I am going to be the trekking the Highlands of Scotland (mainly Glasgow) from April 21-28 ... Sorry for being bitchy, but come on man ... Glasgow in the Highlands??! Can suggest a good place to buy an atlas and a guide book if you'd like ; tungin cheek
LOST
Have 2 spare tix for the LOST party, Easter Sunday: Kevin Saunderson and Derrick May + the usual Lost supsects. Please mail me privately if you're interested Alice _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [313] New Morgan Geist EP (was Morgan Geist)
Couldn´t agree more. More about Environ...Daniel Wang is extremely dope producer as well. Does anyone know if his new album is (or will be) available on vinyl? Ville I don't know what Morgan Geist is like as a DJ, but last week I bought 'Metro Area 3' on Environ, and the a-side of that EP is just totally heavenly. It has just totally blown me away from the very first moment I heard it. It's so utterly beautiful is seems even pointless trying to describe it... He has my vote :-) RD _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [313] keyboards
Do you need it to function as your main sequencer as well? Do you need it to provide your drum tracks as well? Personally, I wouldn't drop all of my cash into one piece of gear. Rod Andres Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/08/2001 10:36:34 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: [313] keyboards wonderin if ya'll could help me i'm buyin my first keyboard,and i want one with spacey and warm sorta sounds on it. vibey deep sounds. any suggestions . peace Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
give it up for the geist
metro area 3 is an amazing record, no-one else out there is making music like morgan geist and his crew - definitely unique. love the '80s retro feel to it. however, i'm sceptical about the latest daniel wang offering. the statement on the record that no samples were used in its making doesn't automatically mean it is better than sample-based offerings. a friend mine thought it could be described as cheesy carbaret house. the record's quirky sound means it will stand out from the current crop of deep house, but whether in 3 or 4 years time i'll still be listening to it is debatable, have doubts whether ot not it has longevity. it's no hi-tech jazz. aidan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [313] Duh..... you said the answer right there
- Original Message - From: Tosh Cooey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:53 AM Subject: [313] Duh. you said the answer right there From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what are the general benefits to the public of copying? It sounds to me that the benefit of copying is the unimpeded sharing of information. Conceptually, this is a great idea. In practice I don't think this leaves us any way to support an artistic community. I want to emphacize this part: In practice I don't think this leaves us any way to support an artistic community. Do you know why? Because the artistic community has NOT presented us a way to support them within the new context in which we exist. And the only way to change entrenched communities is via confrontation, otherwise they will prefer to exist in entropy. We will pay, we have payed in the past and we will continue to pay but they (the artistic community) have to hold out a new hat for us to support them with. Is it really so objectionable to pay the costs we currently pay for records? I don't mean $18 for a CD at Musicland. If you're so in need of mp3's right now, is there any reason you can't encode them yourself after you purchase the record or CD? This is still relatively young - give the smaller labels a chance to respond with hosting of their own mp3s and it will come. Look at 154's example. Do you think that the folks at Delsin are not doing everything in their power to provide the world with great music and an opportunity to hear it for free, often well in advance of the release date (not downloadable incidentally) at Nortroute. Do you think they're raking it in on their record and CD sales? I'll repeat: I don't care about major labels and their exploitation of consumers. I do care about their exploitation of artists but that's a different story that we just visited last week. I really care about whether or not underground music producers can continue to support themselves via their artistic efforts. What I'm seeing argued is that we should favor the tyranny of the majority over the tyranny of the minority, when *we are the minority*. I think that's backwards. We need to quit talking about major labels and think about our little world. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - My music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
visomat
for anyone who has never seen it before, you should check out www.visomat.com interesting flash site, but the real goods are in the visuals they do in clubs in berlin.,... the clips from inside the venues are great!!! anyone witnessed these guys first hand?? ab [flip the scrip and down pitch the speed]
Re: [313] Original v. Replica, Private v. Public
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: So what are the general benefits to the public of copying? It sounds to me that the benefit of copying is the unimpeded sharing of information. And what a grand, wonderful world that will be. ;) I can see that free music for everyone would seem to be in the public good. But where does this leave an artist? Unless there is state funding, artists would not receive any compensation for their work because the public interest in copying is paramount. In the unlikely event the U.S. government endorses such a socialistic ideology, how do we foster new art? Why should it be the government or even necessarily _anyone's_ burden to insure the fostering of new art? It will happen by itself. Creative people create; it's something within them that they can no more suppress than breathe. And while present and future technologies change potential revenue models for artists, their process of creation and appreciation hasn't been changed. If anything, it should be the artists who should look to find ways to tap into this appreciation that are new (and cooperative)... not the government in strongarming the populace to retain the methods that are old (and unenforcable). At this point, can artists only expect to make a living by performing? Or do they all need to find a day job? If established artists are less able to focus on their creations full time, does this proposal really act in the public good? Recording artists could revert to being paid to perform, lecture or teach; just as they have been for thousands of years. The only thing being rescinded is something that they only (relatively) recently received; something that they received due to the nature of the technology of distribution of the time. It wasn't feasible for ordinary citizens to duplicate records, nor until recently CDs. But that has changed, and the public has gained an important freedom because of it. Nothing can justify denying the public important freedoms. As Abraham Lincon put it, Whenever there is a conflict between human rights and property rights, human rights must prevail. Property rights are meant to advance human well-being, not as an excuse to disregard it. The genie has already been let out of the bottle. People -- once they learn how to copy something -- will continue to do so. Just like once presented with the option of an automobile we didn't go back to the buggy, or return to steam engines, or a thousand other technological advances that made some other way of doing a thing obsolete. All important social changes were brought upon us through the advent of some technology... and the internet and digital media are two such technologies that are fundamentally and irrevocably changing the way that humans exchange information. American capitalism and the U.S. constitution are essentially incompatible. American capitalism and the idea of intellectual property in 2001 are basically incompatible. Capitalism is primarily a property services based system. Tossed upon an electronic canvas where property loses its meaning -- where the concept that I can give someone something without me losing it, and they in turn can give it to everyone else in the world so that we all have the same thing... is anathema to any financial models that we've been accustomed to since as long as we can remember. And the thing is that this is a _good_ thing; something that should be strived for at every level. One person suffers a lack of income so that an entire society benefits, vs. one person getting rich while everyone else lies wanting? Which is more profitable for the individual and which more profitable for society? But then, the rich make the laws and hold the reigns on the media engines that attempt to indoctrinate the public otherwise... - Craig
Re: [313] Duh..... you said the answer right there
Next up would be the appreciation of what we have.. like i said before, i think the format in which we present our stuff to the world (vinyl that is) is an intricate part of our product, and the whole package, artwork, soundquality, inscriptions etc are part of the thing we make, painting on canvas is different from painting on wood, and presenting our music in a mix makes the track different from presenting it in a certain order, or as part of a specific selection. I try to make a considerable effort to present the whole deal and hope u all can appreciate it as such! It´s not for nothing that every release i do gets a 3 months delay just to get the Pole touch and the same goes for the long struggle to get the print right, find the colors for the label, even the press-release sheet gets my full attention. availability is not important for me, i agree, but that´s not arrogance, it´s just about howfar my budget stretches. I hope u can make us grow, we´ll try make it worth ur while! 154
But what if vinyl was redundant?
I know its already been mentioned recently, but this url does point to a future where vinyl is redundant (at least functionally anyway). www.finalscratch.com And while I am a fan of 'the full package' maybe there are many who are not, It would be interesting to see what happened if labels released a full vinyl version with packaging etc. and a lower priced 'just the mp3s' option. Obviously this scenario is only feasible if technology like 'final scratch' really does work. I must admit i'm pretty sure I would pay for more music over more cardboard and shrinkwrap... But I may be biased becuase I just moved house and my back is still killing me from lugging all those discs about :) Steve Next up would be the appreciation of what we have.. like i said before, i think the format in which we present our stuff to the world (vinyl that is) is an intricate part of our product, and the whole package, artwork, soundquality, inscriptions etc are part of the thing we make, painting on canvas is different from painting on wood, and presenting our music in a mix makes the track different from presenting it in a certain order, or as part of a specific selection. I try to make a considerable effort to present the whole deal and hope u all can appreciate it as such! It´s not for nothing that every release i do gets a 3 months delay just to get the Pole touch and the same goes for the long struggle to get the print right, find the colors for the label, even the press-release sheet gets my full attention. availability is not important for me, i agree, but that´s not arrogance, it´s just about howfar my budget stretches. I hope u can make us grow, we´ll try make it worth ur while! 154 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: copyright issues [LONG]
I think it all comes down to the definition of is intellectual material personal property?. I agree with Tristan that in our current system of musical copyrighting, and declared intellectual property, we are all at fault for some degree of musical pirating or copyright infringement. This, however, may be the fault of the system that is trying to protect the artist (when in fact it only _really_ protects the record label from which it was copyrighted). Think about this: Back before songs were copyrighted, and music was considered property, songs were fair game. (I'm thinking right now of when piano and opera were the only thing around). If someone played a piece from a Mozart composition, everyone who heard it, knew it was Mozart, and thusly, when Mozart appeared to perform, he was returned with a large crowd who came to hear him play his own music. In the same vein, people in that era of musical performance would learn popular songs, and be able to learn from them, and sooner or later start composing their own. Following their understanding of popular music, these pupils would gain their own following, and be repaid with the same crowds to hear them play their own music. If I am singing a song to myself, and it just happens to be written by someone else, do I owe them for singing their song? I might think highly of them, because I enjoy their music, but am I in any form of debt to them (literally) because I am presently enjoying their music? I should think not. I wouldn't expect to be repaid by anyone for them singing my songs. In fact, I would love to be able to distribute my music freely, and have the only form of compensation be performances. I don't believe that you can sell intellectual property. I believe that you can sell entertainment, but that line is really rough. Would a CD be entertainment? Yes and no, but that's a different can of worms. We are not really arguing about whether or not artists should be compensated, rather - how they should be compensated, and how - in this age of information - we can regulate that compensation. In a perfect world, artists who use other artists music would promote its use, hence giving the original artist a chance to be compensated when performing. A viable solution would be to cut out the middle man, which in this case, happens to be the record label who is marketing and directing the sales of the recorded media. If you take away the sales of the media, you in effect take away the marketing of the record, but you can make that up through the promotion of other artists. This way you would still be able to draw a crowd to get compensation for your musical creativity. This is, of course, just my personal opinion, with many flaws, and much to work out, but I believe it is a better system than the one that we have. Cheers! Dennis From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Craig Stodolenak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Re: IP issues [LONG] Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 05:59:11 -0400 Cyclone, Craig, Scott and RC all make some excellent points on this issue and I am so thankful this hasn't been reduced to the usual arguments. If there is one argument I am completely fed up with, it is this. No other issue can turn normally thoughtful people into mindless automatons - simply because they're offered something for free. The one thing that pisses me off the most is that most people do not give one sh*t about what it means to an artist when they download from Napster, and if pressed on this point cite rhetoric from artists who are fighting against major labels. My question is what does this mean to techno? No one ever seems to be talking about that. To Craig's well thought out and clearly articulated points, I don't see that you can draw the parallel from software to music while invoking the George Washington paradigm. Which is it? Do we honor the historical spirit of copyright, or do we evaluate things in a modern context? If we're looking at the modern world, these issues are new and unique, so the only standard we should be worried about is fairness - the principal on which these privileges were initially granted. In what other field of art or science is work routinely stolen with so many normal consumers jumping on the bandwagon simply because they can? There is no comparison. We can envision that film piracy may reach these levels in a few years, but I think the same arguments apply. Does an artist ever implicitly consent to having their work distributed through Napster? No. If they explicitly consent is it OK? Absolutely. I agree 100% that the power of the internet should be harnessed to distribute music in a more expeditious way. Napster is not that way. I think what troubles me most about Craig's post is that it invokes an array of principles in the name of justifying a network that operates with none. If we're really trying to be principled about this, shouldn't we say
Re: [313] But what if vinyl was redundant?
For me personally, i do not feel the mp3 thing, personal i guess, i don´t intend to put audio clips up on the site, putting up a sound generator would be a more interesting option...not feeling the mp3 thing has got something to do with the uniqueness of vinyl, it cannot be copied so a more personal touch can be edited. all copies of my tunes have at one point been in my to small appartment and have been thru a very heavy quality check... when u get dm to do your mastering u can b proud of very copy! oh, and i also moved house a couple of times, have a pretty large collection and wasn´t to happy after that either.. even playing out hurts my back at times btw 154
Re: [313] But what if vinyl was redundant?
I think there is potential here for a support thread on horror stories of moving vinyl from old to new dwelling. I always wind up explainging what's in the boxes that as the movers say weigh more than my furniture. :) BTW...the 'records obsolete' thread has happened before. Ermm..remember the thread Tosh started a while back about this? I've seen DJs start combining their record sets with MP3 tracks, for the simple reason that particular tracks (such as their own or rare ones) are almost impossible to find anymore. save those records kids-they'll make ya a fortune on Ebay one day :) ohhappymonday d __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Duh..... you said the answer right there
Phonopsia wrote: last week. I really care about whether or not underground music producers can continue to support themselves via their artistic efforts. What I'm seeing argued is that we should favor the tyranny of the majority over the tyranny of the minority, when *we are the minority*. I think that's backwards. We need to quit talking about major labels and think about our little world. This is a truly noble sentiment. However it has no basis in the capitalist world in which we operate. Nature is the most successful system ever created, evolution being an integral part of that. Capitalism mostly follows this design but a little quicker. Now don't start arguing about capitalism and evolution blah blah The point is the world has suddenly evolved. If your main predatory enemy has just evolved a new way to eat you, you can either sit there and whine and say hey that's not fair you can't do that or you can evolve a counter-response. That's what pushes evolution in nature and innovation in capitalist systems. As I said, it's a noble sentiment to want to protect the artists who make the music we love from the ravages of Napster (salt) but the reality is that the cat is not only out of the bag, but the cat now has a just sprouted a rocket pack on it's back, and whining at it to un-evolve isn't going to help. Tosh
Re: [313] But what if vinyl was redundant?
In a way, its not just the rarity but also a good way to show our appreciation for a record. and its so humiliating to see ur tunes stuck in the bargainbassmenti have a pile of that dusk thing i did on 100%pure at home couldnt bare the site of em in the midtown bassment for 2.50 each...bought em all... it´s that sorta control over ur creations which i really like, i want my stuff to be top-quality and what the listener thinks is important, if people r not buying i go back in the studio and try again. when people do not buy because its available for free on napster i couldn´t garantee that quality, i really need feedback to evolve as an artist(ooh, goin all pretentious here...lol). guess makin music is a two way thing, even if sometimes ur just a hermit in a depressing cellar pressing buttons.. 154
RE: [313] But what if vinyl was redundant?
I think there is potential here for a support thread on horror stories of moving vinyl from old to new dwelling. I always wind up explainging what's in the boxes that as the movers say weigh more than my furniture. :) Horror Story?! I had to move all mine myself!! ;) BTW...the 'records obsolete' thread has happened before. Ermm..remember the thread Tosh started a while Yeah I know its an age old thread, but its only recently that technology has developed which takes the *most* valuable asset of vinyl (the physical interface with it, scratching, cueing etc.) and applies it to a different media. Now that is revolutionary! Playing mp3s/minidiscs/CD etc. alongside vinyl isnt. Steve (wearing his Day-job interface designer hat...)
Re: [313] Duh..... you said the answer right there
in reply to this all i can say u guys can just as well listen to my stuff on the wrong speed with worn out needles and make a fuzz about how incredible that experience is... it just doesn´t come close to the original product.. like u buy a van gogh at a poster shopgo for the real thing! Tosh Cooey [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09-04-2001 16:23:21 To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org (bcc: Jochem Peteri/RUB/RSG) Subject: Re: [313] Duh. you said the answer right there Phonopsia wrote: last week. I really care about whether or not underground music producers can continue to support themselves via their artistic efforts. What I'm seeing argued is that we should favor the tyranny of the majority over the tyranny of the minority, when *we are the minority*. I think that's backwards. We need to quit talking about major labels and think about our little world. This is a truly noble sentiment. However it has no basis in the capitalist world in which we operate. Nature is the most successful system ever created, evolution being an integral part of that. Capitalism mostly follows this design but a little quicker. Now don't start arguing about capitalism and evolution blah blah The point is the world has suddenly evolved. If your main predatory enemy has just evolved a new way to eat you, you can either sit there and whine and say hey that's not fair you can't do that or you can evolve a counter-response. That's what pushes evolution in nature and innovation in capitalist systems. As I said, it's a noble sentiment to want to protect the artists who make the music we love from the ravages of Napster (salt) but the reality is that the cat is not only out of the bag, but the cat now has a just sprouted a rocket pack on it's back, and whining at it to un-evolve isn't going to help. Tosh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dj Heathye
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Dj Heather
Hey all. Sorry If this was posted twice. I got a funny keyboard and it's real easy tohit the enter key. Anyway. Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. She plays in Chicago I think and is part of 'Superjane'. Anyone heard of her or them? = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Dj Heather
yes. Heather is really talented and one of the nicest people I've met. She toured with Mark Farina on some dates and is equally as talented and _slightly_ more techno flavored than Farina. d --- cTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. Sorry If this was posted twice. I got a funny keyboard and it's real easy tohit the enter key. Anyway. Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. She plays in Chicago I think and is part of 'Superjane'. Anyone heard of her or them? = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Dj Heather
Wicked! That was so quick Diana! So good to hear someone else likes her too. I never really played housemusic - ever. Was strictly a techno girl untuil i heard her play here in AU. What can I say. I was inspired yes. Heather is really talented and one of the nicest people I've met. She toured with Mark Farina on some dates and is equally as talented and _slightly_ more techno flavored than Farina. d --- cTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. Sorry If this was posted twice. I got a funny keyboard and it's real easy tohit the enter key. Anyway. Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. She plays in Chicago I think and is part of 'Superjane'. Anyone heard of her or them? = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Dj Heather
that was meant to be private...sorry. d --- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. Heather is really talented and one of the nicest people I've met. She toured with Mark Farina on some dates and is equally as talented and _slightly_ more techno flavored than Farina. d --- cTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. Sorry If this was posted twice. I got a funny keyboard and it's real easy tohit the enter key. Anyway. Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. She plays in Chicago I think and is part of 'Superjane'. Anyone heard of her or them? = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Dj Heather
Have you heard any news about her of late? yeah she's got a really nice energy about her. that's what i first noticed about her when i saw her play. when i interviewed her she was _just_ beginning to tour and dj full time,so its great to hear that she's traveling on an even more global scale. d --- cTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wicked! That was so quick Diana! So good to hear someone else likes her too. I never really played housemusic - ever. Was strictly a techno girl untuil i heard her play here in AU. What can I say. I was inspired yes. Heather is really talented and one of the nicest people I've met. She toured with Mark Farina on some dates and is equally as talented and _slightly_ more techno flavored than Farina. d --- cTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. Sorry If this was posted twice. I got a funny keyboard and it's real easy tohit the enter key. Anyway. Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. She plays in Chicago I think and is part of 'Superjane'. Anyone heard of her or them? = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
OT: Re: [313] Original v. Replica, Private v. Public Duh...Longish
Craig Wrote: freedoms. As Abraham Lincoln put it, Whenever there is a conflict between human rights and property rights, human rights must prevail. Property rights are meant to advance human well-being, not as an excuse to disregard it. cut American capitalism and the idea of intellectual property in 2001 are basically incompatible. Capitalism is primarily a property services based system. Tossed upon an electronic canvas where property loses its meaning -- where the concept that I can give someone something without me losing it, and they in turn can give it to everyone else in the world so that we all have the same thing... is anathema to any financial models that we've been accustomed to since as long as we can remember. In polite disagreement, you quote Lincoln from the 19th century to assert that later, in the 21st century, human rights must still prevail. Nearly any political structures or regimes in the world today celebrate true 'human rights', as it was understood by Lincoln. Just look at the brewing crisis between America (alleged home of the free) and China (alleged home of the unfree). Then remember that Lincoln was the Great Emancipator, and probably one of the kindest men to serve high political have ever lived (Cinncinatus excepted).But to extend his world view into the 21st century, a world full of rogue states, dormant superpowers and new kids on the block, is inconceivable. This arguement, so far on both sides, concedes that the present is different from the past. What the Internet challenges is, as you said, the economic system in which the recently globalized world participates in. And 'globalization' is most *certainly* the key to future economic systems. The world is fast becoming reliant on resources, many of which are found outside a country's own physical boundaries. Creativity, in the capitalist system is as Barlow said in the Wired article is both applied to the mental and physical world - nouns and verbs - manufactured goods and manufactured thoughts. The capitalist economy, arising out of the Industrial Revolution and using the IR's great power to vault itself into power, is no doubt one of the greatest portents of doom for this species. There is no indication that the 'global village' will wholesalely reject capitalism. It's kind of like the sweatshop arguments, but a whole different can of worms. In short, the moguls control information, even on the Internet. And they will seek to maintain their hegemony in any way possible - through policy or practice. If anyone is interested in issues relating to the globalization of society, I STRONGLY recommend reading Benjamin Barber's fantastic book Jihad vs McWorld. Tosh Wrote: The point is the world has suddenly evolved. Suddenly? This evolution has been about as quiet as the Industrial Revolution ;) If your main predatory enemy has just evolved a new way to eat you, you can either sit there and whine and say hey that's not fair you can't do that or you can evolve a counter-response. That's what pushes evolution in nature and innovation in capitalist systems. What I think you mean regarding nature - adaptation - is something humans are notoriously poor at facilitating. At least most humans. I beg to disagree, too, that a 'dog eat dog' model of the capitalist system appropriately addresses the system's real motivation - and don't forget it - PROFIT. Look at today's economy - at 1020est the Dow's back up 130. But selloffs and layoffs come from new on earnings. Since many (I'd wager more than not) stocks are falling short of earnings projections, (read: they're not as profitable as they claim to be), traders are dumping mid and large caps left and right. I think that Craig's eloquent description of a type of intellectual redundancy is the one thing that will chip away at the foundations of the entrenched global capitalist hegemony. That one can share information, creations and ideas yet not lose ownership of that information, creation or idea is tantamount to what capitalism was conceived to be by Adam Smith - a truly free market, with no interference and a level playing field. So much more to say, but I'd just be wasting bandwidth. Vince Woolums AOL IM: vincewoolums http://www.recordcollectorinc.com
The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
hi 313'rs You always hear names mentioned like May, Atkins, Suanderson, Craig, etc in detroit techno. There have been so many other producers that have contributed to detroit tech with releases on compilations and one or two 12 etc. It just interests me that u dont hear much about these people. I guess the various names used by single artists doesn't help either. Anyway, my question is where r they now???!!! I'll start with a Planet E compilation called Elements of and experiments with sound released in 1994. Mode Selector-F.Flowers Moodring-K.Tertzag Flexitone-G.Donald, B.Gillen The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes Enhanced-T.Sines (KNOWN) Hani-Hani Quadrant-Quadrant Paperclip People-C.Craig(KNOWN),M.Gottsching If u have any producers to add or any info on the above we will somehow solve this mystery. thanx Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
I can get you started with a few obvious ones. I'll start with a Planet E compilation called Elements of and experiments with sound released in 1994. Mode Selector-F.Flowers Fanon Flowers is still around and kicking. I'm not sure that he's based in Detroit anymore. He used to be an Ypsi native. He's made all sorts of great hard techno records and wowed people at the last demf. I have one of his 12's on the konsequent label, and he used to run Mechanism Industries. Flexitone-G.Donald, B.Gillen I always thought Flexitone was just Brendan, but Mr Gillen is the main brain behind Ectomorph. G Donald, I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you. I'm sure people can help you out more, but it's really no wonder that people sort of surface and drop off the face of the earth. They get jobs, go to school, move out of the 313/248/810/734, have to sell their gear, get married, etc. There are countless reasons many great unknown producers put out one record and then just run out of time to make music. Dare I call myself even a good producer, I may be in the same boat when I head off to grad school in august : n8
give it up for the geist
metro area 3 is an amazing record, no-one else out there is making music like morgan geist and his crew - definitely unique. I have to pause and add my praise to the Metro Area project. All 3 in this series I consider must-haves, and #3 probably being the most unique yet. The mix of live instrumentation, while often (IMHO) tired and over-done by some cheesier deep house acts (forever striving to out-deepen each other), works on a whole different level with Metro Area. It's the spice, not the main course. The live flute w/ heavy reverb is just the perfect ingredient, you have to hear it to understand, but it's such a great compliment to the funky, bulging electronic basslines and electronic tom-tom beats. THis stuff can be mixed in a house set, an italo/electro set, and of course with new funky techno too. Metro Area 3 is one of the best domestics released in the US this year. PS - speaking of Italo, anyone else heard Penguins Invasion by Scotch? or know where I can get a copy on wax? This track is incredible... peace -- Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] archived radio shows -- http://macqueen.com/radio
RE: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
Quadrant-Quadrant Basic Channel under a different name or just Maurizio?
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
Hani used to live in Denver where he had an underground shop selling records, bags, etc. He used to DJ at raves in colorado in the early 90's and then he relocated to NYC where he got into production. Not sure what he is upto now. Sam Karmel wrote: hi 313'rs You always hear names mentioned like May, Atkins, Suanderson, Craig, etc in detroit techno. There have been so many other producers that have contributed to detroit tech with releases on compilations and one or two 12 etc. It just interests me that u dont hear much about these people. I guess the various names used by single artists doesn't help either. Anyway, my question is where r they now???!!! I'll start with a Planet E compilation called Elements of and experiments with sound released in 1994. Mode Selector-F.Flowers Moodring-K.Tertzag Flexitone-G.Donald, B.Gillen The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes Enhanced-T.Sines (KNOWN) Hani-Hani Quadrant-Quadrant Paperclip People-C.Craig(KNOWN),M.Gottsching If u have any producers to add or any info on the above we will somehow solve this mystery. thanx Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
--- Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quadrant-Quadrant Basic Channel under a different name or just Maurizio? Same thing. Tristan __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Lil Louis Out of Napster
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:01:02AM +0200, jose bello wrote: Lil Louis,like the Beatles or Metallica,is forbidding his tracks on Napster. That man is very jealousy of his music,any comments? His LPs were on Epic and his singles were on Sony. Do you honestly think he had anything to do with this decision? -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly
RE: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
Quadrant-Quadrant Basic Channel under a different name or just Maurizio? Same thing. Basic Channel is Mark and Moritz.
Re: [313] Lil Louis Out of Napster
Ok,It´s a true but what happen with his singles on Dancemania ? --- atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:01:02AM +0200, jose bello wrote: Lil Louis,like the Beatles or Metallica,is forbidding his tracks on Napster. That man is very jealousy of his music,any comments? His LPs were on Epic and his singles were on Sony. Do you honestly think he had anything to do with this decision? -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do You Yahoo!? Envía mensajes instantáneos y recibe alertas de correo con Yahoo! Messenger - http://messenger.yahoo.es
wookie
Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RE: two-step garage, not all of it is commercial or obvious and it's a shame that the hype is impacting on perceptions of the music as a whole. The Wookie and MJ Cole albums are really good - very musical. i find the wookie album really frustrating. the production and instrumental aspects are really good, an interesting mix of things. but the songwriting and the vocal tracks, which dominate most of the tracks are pretty damned awful, IMHO, in a slick and mainstream kinda way. kurt
Re: [313] Lil Louis Out of Napster
At 17:45 +0200 4/9/2001, jose bello wrote: Ok,It´s a true but what happen with his singles on Dancemania ? Umm, is that the same Dancemania that released the soundtracks to Dance Dance Revolution? -- Cafard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] qu'est-ce que tu penses? AIM:pr0j2501 Matt Kane's Brain http://mkb.n3.net ===jive turkey http://jive-turkey.n3.net===
T-shirt update
Hi everyone, Well I had good intention of getting the site and voting started today but unfortunately I've got a killer deadline here at the office, so I will have to postpone getting that info up until tonight. I'll post another message with all the details later so keep an eye out. slightly overwhelmed dave
Dancemania
No,Dancemania is the house of Barney,real underground house of Chicago southside: http://members.tripod.com/~infamouss/house.html --- mkb [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: At 17:45 +0200 4/9/2001, jose bello wrote: Ok,It´s a true but what happen with his singles on Dancemania ? Umm, is that the same Dancemania that released the soundtracks to Dance Dance Revolution? -- Cafard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] qu'est-ce que tu penses? AIM:pr0j2501 Matt Kane's Brain http://mkb.n3.net ===jive turkey http://jive-turkey.n3.net=== - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do You Yahoo!? Envía mensajes instantáneos y recibe alertas de correo con Yahoo! Messenger - http://messenger.yahoo.es
tune wanted
Hi I was wondering if anyone would wish to part with a copy of Dancer in the temple of lust by ralphi dee alici ... not sure of the label I will pay good money cheers __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
on 4/9/01 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes I'd be real curious to hear what happened to these folks too. I always love this E.P. and thought a Planet E full length would be in the works. Paperclip People-C.Craig(KNOWN),M.Gottsching Manuel Gottsching, one of the founding members of Ash Ra Tempel. German guitarist. The connection is his landmark solo work E2-E4, an hour-long track from 1984 that inspired much of what would become techno, early trance, and ambient. E2-E4 was the basis for Sueno Latino, and Carl's Paperclip People ReMake. I thought everybody already had this one. -- There4IM
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
There is a Hani that produces for Nervous Records... could it be the same? MEK From: Stevyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sam Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now? Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 11:41:00 -0400 Hani used to live in Denver where he had an underground shop selling records, bags, etc. He used to DJ at raves in colorado in the early 90's and then he relocated to NYC where he got into production. Not sure what he is upto now. Sam Karmel wrote: hi 313'rs You always hear names mentioned like May, Atkins, Suanderson, Craig, etc in detroit techno. There have been so many other producers that have contributed to detroit tech with releases on compilations and one or two 12 etc. It just interests me that u dont hear much about these people. I guess the various names used by single artists doesn't help either. Anyway, my question is where r they now???!!! I'll start with a Planet E compilation called Elements of and experiments with sound released in 1994. Mode Selector-F.Flowers Moodring-K.Tertzag Flexitone-G.Donald, B.Gillen The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes Enhanced-T.Sines (KNOWN) Hani-Hani Quadrant-Quadrant Paperclip People-C.Craig(KNOWN),M.Gottsching If u have any producers to add or any info on the above we will somehow solve this mystery. thanx Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Dancemania
jose bello: ...Dancemania is the house of Barney,real underground house of Chicago southside: http://members.tripod.com/~infamouss/house.html (almost) complete discography can be found at: http://ad.techno.org/ -and the one with the available tracklistings is at: http://www.discogs.com/label/Dance_mania -Me and this other guy have been adding all the basic releases but there's few (actually a whole lot) that are missing. So many of the releases came as white labels so I have no idea about the track names... If someone out there can fill the blanks, please do!!! -Proffit _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [313] Dj Heather
Apparently (gossip gossip), DJ Heather was the one who taught Mark Farina the basics. She is quite good, and its great to see her popularity rise as it has been. VA Wicked! That was so quick Diana! So good to hear someone else likes her too. I never really played housemusic - ever. Was strictly a techno girl untuil i heard her play here in AU. What can I say. I was inspired yes. Heather is really talented and one of the nicest people I've met. She toured with Mark Farina on some dates and is equally as talented and _slightly_ more techno flavored than Farina. d --- cTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. Sorry If this was posted twice. I got a funny keyboard and it's real easy tohit the enter key. Anyway. Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. She plays in Chicago I think and is part of 'Superjane'. Anyone heard of her or them? = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
F. Flowers is Fanon Flowers, a techno producer out of Kalamazoo (sp?). He's produced a lot of records for labels like Black Nation, Spielzug, Sonic Mind, Mechanism Industries, Deepfried, Seismic and Konsequent. I would really like to know what artisits like Kikoman, and Bass Frog are up to? Anybody? Cheers todd - Original Message - From: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now? There is a Hani that produces for Nervous Records... could it be the same? MEK From: Stevyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sam Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now? Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 11:41:00 -0400 Hani used to live in Denver where he had an underground shop selling records, bags, etc. He used to DJ at raves in colorado in the early 90's and then he relocated to NYC where he got into production. Not sure what he is upto now. Sam Karmel wrote: hi 313'rs You always hear names mentioned like May, Atkins, Suanderson, Craig, etc in detroit techno. There have been so many other producers that have contributed to detroit tech with releases on compilations and one or two 12 etc. It just interests me that u dont hear much about these people. I guess the various names used by single artists doesn't help either. Anyway, my question is where r they now???!!! I'll start with a Planet E compilation called Elements of and experiments with sound released in 1994. Mode Selector-F.Flowers Moodring-K.Tertzag Flexitone-G.Donald, B.Gillen The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes Enhanced-T.Sines (KNOWN) Hani-Hani Quadrant-Quadrant Paperclip People-C.Craig(KNOWN),M.Gottsching If u have any producers to add or any info on the above we will somehow solve this mystery. thanx Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
--- M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a Hani that produces for Nervous Records... could it be the same? MEK Yes. It's the same. Tristan __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
--- Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/9/01 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes I'd be real curious to hear what happened to these folks too. I always love this E.P. and thought a Planet E full length would be in the works. I posted about them after I finally got that e.p. last year. If I'm not mistaken, Lance had some info about an upcoming project of theirs, but to our loss, he doesn't seem to be around anymore. :( I will see if I can find his original email. Trully a work ahead of its time. Tristan __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] But what if vinyl was redundant?
It would be interesting to see what happened if labels released a full vinyl version with packaging etc. and a lower priced 'just the mp3s' option. This was done last year with Dave Clarke's 'before I was so rudely interrupted' track. 'Released' as an MP3 by iCrunch some time before it was issued on vinyl. http://www.crunch.co.uk/
UR vs. Sony
Hi, does anyone know what the outcome of this case was? are they still in litigation? Did BMG ever release the trace version or any other version of the cover? I'm writing a paper on this for my cultural production and intellectual property law class and would greatly appreciate any info people have. Everywhere I've looked has info up until the early part of 2000 and then it stops. thanks for your time, bekka =) Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
F. Flowers? Fanon Flowers? still releasing stuff. From: Sam Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now? Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:18:25 -0700 (PDT) hi 313'rs You always hear names mentioned like May, Atkins, Suanderson, Craig, etc in detroit techno. There have been so many other producers that have contributed to detroit tech with releases on compilations and one or two 12 etc. It just interests me that u dont hear much about these people. I guess the various names used by single artists doesn't help either. Anyway, my question is where r they now???!!! I'll start with a Planet E compilation called Elements of and experiments with sound released in 1994. Mode Selector-F.Flowers Moodring-K.Tertzag Flexitone-G.Donald, B.Gillen The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes Enhanced-T.Sines (KNOWN) Hani-Hani Quadrant-Quadrant Paperclip People-C.Craig(KNOWN),M.Gottsching If u have any producers to add or any info on the above we will somehow solve this mystery. thanx Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
All your BASS are belong to us...
For those that have a history with AMIGA computers and remember the demo scene, you can refresh your sweet memories with this: http://www.scene.org/~jeffry/AYB.swf -BEUTIFUL music in that FINE classic tracker-style:) -Proffit _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
RE: [313] Dj Heather
Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. Heather played in London last autumn at Derrick Carter's Classic night, the first I've heard of her. She was very good.if you like the D.Carter sound, you'll like Heather.that is, if it's the same person.
Re: [313] All your BASS are belong to us...
I seriously hope that the owner of this page isn't trying to claim he created the music and the Flash animation! The track is Invasion of the Gabber Robots by The Laziest Men on Mars (http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/190/the_laziest_men_on_mars.html) and the animation was created by some regulars of the TribalWar and PlanetStarsiege (now PlanetTribes) forums. jim proffit [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/09/2001 03:45:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: [313] All your BASS are belong to us... For those that have a history with AMIGA computers and remember the demo scene, you can refresh your sweet memories with this: http://www.scene.org/~jeffry/AYB.swf -BEUTIFUL music in that FINE classic tracker-style:) -Proffit _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] All your BASS are belong to us...
Oh, the intro game sequence was from the old Genesis/Mega Drive game Zero Wing. George Jones/US/ABNAMRO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/09/2001 03:52:52 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: Re: [313] All your BASS are belong to us... I seriously hope that the owner of this page isn't trying to claim he created the music and the Flash animation! The track is Invasion of the Gabber Robots by The Laziest Men on Mars (http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/190/the_laziest_men_on_mars.html) and the animation was created by some regulars of the TribalWar and PlanetStarsiege (now PlanetTribes) forums. jim proffit [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/09/2001 03:45:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: [313] All your BASS are belong to us... For those that have a history with AMIGA computers and remember the demo scene, you can refresh your sweet memories with this: http://www.scene.org/~jeffry/AYB.swf -BEUTIFUL music in that FINE classic tracker-style:) -Proffit _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, tristan watkins wrote: --- Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/9/01 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes I'd be real curious to hear what happened to these folks too. I always love this E.P. and thought a Planet E full length would be in the works. I posted about them after I finally got that e.p. last year. If I'm not mistaken, Lance had some info about an upcoming project of theirs, but to our loss, he doesn't seem to be around anymore. :( I will see if I can find his original email. The Connection Machine are a couple people from Eindhoven NL, and poking around I found a couple of things: Remix for Morgon Geist on the Premise EP (Envron #1) Echoes from Tau Ceti on Phuture Classical Secton C (Drome #3) X-Manray on The Utroid Machine Missions (U-Trax 3UTR) They have a web page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~connect/ And the Technotourists are friends with them -- Hans? Otto?
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
What ever happened to lance, anyway? From: tristan watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now? Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:12:14 -0700 (PDT) --- Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/9/01 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes I'd be real curious to hear what happened to these folks too. I always love this E.P. and thought a Planet E full length would be in the works. I posted about them after I finally got that e.p. last year. If I'm not mistaken, Lance had some info about an upcoming project of theirs, but to our loss, he doesn't seem to be around anymore. :( I will see if I can find his original email. Trully a work ahead of its time. Tristan __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 03:06:28PM -0500, Kent williams wrote: The Connection Machine are a couple people from Eindhoven NL, and poking around I found a couple of things: Remix for Morgon Geist on the Premise EP (Envron #1) Echoes from Tau Ceti on Phuture Classical Secton C (Drome #3) X-Manray on The Utroid Machine Missions (U-Trax 3UTR) They have a web page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~connect/ And the Technotourists are friends with them -- Hans? Otto? It's been quite a while since i last talked to Natasja and Jeroen from Utecht (not Eindhoven :) They had some major setbacks. They were also very disappointed in the music industry and still have a complete album that never got released. When i spoke to them they were starting to work on new material, but i don't know if that ever happened. I hope we will hear from them again because they were very talented and had a unique sound. Some more releases: - The Dream Tec Album on U-Trax (using various names) - The Black Hole EP on U-Trax - E2L9 on Phoq U (a U-Trax sublabel) using the name Cray Emoticon Btw, i think Fanon Flowers' first release was also on Phoq U. The Sleeper EP as Inventions And Diamentions. Great to show off your very first release to your family: PHOQ U :) Cheers, Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org http://www.TV-99-AD.com
Re: [313] Re: no subject
mmm If a farmer can only grow things and would not know how to sell it what will happen ? Or better if there is only 1 recordcompany that wants to do you work you start your own company if there a many well .. (witch reflects the difference time we are living in now and then) that's every busines with a craft in it ! some say : walk up and smell the koffie shure it's a shame that for instance fast eddie sells pizza's now (i'm not shure about that fact but it would not surprise me) Sorry I couldn't help myself here. Could you ? ha ha I SHOULD Quote Mad Mike about musicians being lazy bla bla bla bla nuff said DJ DMT who also liked the more obscure lil louie and check spelling for Laurent garnier - Live at fuse 2001 And Cyclone I've checked the technasia album witch is sublime you compare alans work to this ? Has he been working out ?? I like his paintings ! Always wondered if the man draw after he heard the music witch was released on djax or the other way around - Original Message - From: Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [313] Re: no subject That seems hopelessly naive - sorry. There are a boatload of factors which go into being a success - and another boat in tow when we're talking about the entertainment industry. You have to be living in a bubble with blinders on to imagine that moneymaking is predicated solely upon talent. jeff Tim Johnson wrote: I think that people who are good enough will make money. -- jeff ?/~THINK OUTSIDE OF YOUR SITCOM~\! ICQ904008 (but I'm never on) http://www.freedonation.com (costs you nothing. try it) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [313] Dj Heather
DJ Heather often makes the short trip up here to Minneapolis. She is usually booked @ South Beach (small club in Mpls.). DJ Mea also shows here often. Good to see that there is still a Minneapolis - Chicago DJ connection. I think that Alexander East is primarily responsible for that. MEK From: Max Duley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Dj Heather Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:51:00 +0100 Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. Heather played in London last autumn at Derrick Carter's Classic night, the first I've heard of her. She was very good.if you like the D.Carter sound, you'll like Heather.that is, if it's the same person. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london sound?
bit of an old thread i know, i'm sl o w in g down goldie, grooverider and fabio all cite bug in the bassbin played down at rage(?) at heaven on a thursday night as *the* track that got the d and b sound going... an that club was the turning point between hardcore and db. whether the same goes for the rougher early jungle sounds (93-95)ah juss dunno. f. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
minor techno
hey all, i'm looking for that minor sound. those minimal tracks with eerie, sad, minor strings giving them that unmistakenable feel.. i realized i just don't get to hear many such tracks, and so i buy only what i manage to find.. i gathered the collective knowledge of this list could help me with this 'techno educational' project... i'll list a few tracks so you could zoom in the style i'm after - mike wade - requiem (b1 on 'first breath' ep / archetype) jeff mills- if (all three 'if' on the if ep) hidden rivals - early days (on the early days ep. / brave new world) s.l. session - needle drama [sls' octave mix] (from 'remixes v1' / cycle) mistress barbara - my passion for you (a1 on '666 fvw' / primevil) dave clarke - parameter (on 'directional force' / sonic groove) these are all the tracks i could find in my box that follow this style... obviously a sad testimonial.. but i intend to fix that. recommendations will be highly appreciated... thanks, -- crisk
RE: [313] Dj Heather
Saw her play at Bugged Out in Liverpool about a month ago. It was, I think, her UK debut, and a really good house set. Unfortunatly a lot of the crowd just wanted techno, so the room wasn't too busy. Nick Hardie -Original Message- From: cTH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 April 2001 15:41 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Dj Heather Have you heard any news about her of late? yeah she's got a really nice energy about her. that's what i first noticed about her when i saw her play. when i interviewed her she was _just_ beginning to tour and dj full time,so its great to hear that she's traveling on an even more global scale. d --- cTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wicked! That was so quick Diana! So good to hear someone else likes her too. I never really played housemusic - ever. Was strictly a techno girl untuil i heard her play here in AU. What can I say. I was inspired yes. Heather is really talented and one of the nicest people I've met. She toured with Mark Farina on some dates and is equally as talented and _slightly_ more techno flavored than Farina. d --- cTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. Sorry If this was posted twice. I got a funny keyboard and it's real easy tohit the enter key. Anyway. Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. She plays in Chicago I think and is part of 'Superjane'. Anyone heard of her or them? = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
