Re: [313] re:(313)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/technology

2001-10-23 Thread M. Todd Smith
Are you ready for the Final Scratch price tag of $23,000?
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,47398,00.html
has the details

I would rather take my chances cutting dubs on the Kingston Dubplate Cutter.
www.mixmachines.com
They will probably be shipping in 6 months or so, and they are only $5000.

Better yet I'll save my money to do something fabulous.  Like treat my
girlfriend to a vacation, or buy a car, chances are I can always just lug my
records around in that now can't I.

Take your pick

Cheers
todd


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[313] I'm dreaming of a....313 X Mas

2001-10-23 Thread FC3 Richards
ok...so i am going to be home for X-MAS for the first time in 3 years, and
was wondering if there is a planned 313 get together somewhere in tha D so
that  i can party with some of you MOFO's??

thanks

jeff

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Re: [313] Record shops in Paris (OT)

2001-10-23 Thread armin holzgethan
courtesy of this list:

Betreff:
 Re: [313] record stores in paris?
  Datum:
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Von:
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 An:
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 CC:
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Hello!

Check:
Da Groove records shop = house
17, rue de l'Echiquier
75010 Paris Métro:Bonne Nouvelle
tel : 01 48 010 318

Basement Trax = techno, house, d&b, electro...
22, rue de Hauteville
75010 Paris Métro:Bonne Nouvelle
tel : 01 40 22 05 82

Katapult imports= techno, house, d&b, electro...
10, rue E.Lockroy
75011 Paris Métro:Parmentier
tel : 01 47 00 33 75

Techno import== techno, house, d&b, electro, trance, hardcore...
rue des Taillandiers
75011 Paris Métro:Bastille
Lot of records but the guys are simply dreadful and not-friendly! [and the
records are not sorted at all, i've never seen something like this before]

Fnac ITALIENS
Boulevard des Italiens
75009 Paris Métro:Richelieu-Drouot
Lot of Cds and some vinyls. Ask for Sylvain or Bertrand (the 2 persons
responsible of the e-music department) who are real music-lovers!

Peace,

z




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Re: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread armin holzgethan
my khan recommendations:

orgien I-IV (no label, distributed through temple i think) dark sinister bassy
monotone ambient, instead of whales singing you get hunks moaning in the
background, some sampled 70s gay-porn-sleaze-funk, and the pet shop boys.

super 8 (khan's now defunked (?) label) release #3 (with white & purple label)
long dubby analogue tracks between house and techno.

silver satellites 2x7" on eat raw, trashy acid electro-pop tracks

armin

np: n.o.i.a. - stranger in a strange land


Elliot Taub schrieb:

> Alright, since I work for Temple Records, Khan's old record store here in
> NYC, I should set the record straight somewhat.
>


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[313] FA: Moodymann, Symbols & Instruments, Raze

2001-10-23 Thread Scott Everett

For auction spam:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=sswiger
(including Symbols & Instruments, an early KMS production of Derrick Carter, 
Mark Farina, & Chris Nazuka)


Peace,
Scott

:http://www.skwiggly.com
:mother Earth sound system
:keep techno sexy!


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[313] techno-Indie/ Was Khan

2001-10-23 Thread Peter Leidy
Since these threads are wandering from techno towards Indie Rock, Was
wondering what you all think of the Vincent Gallo album just released on
Warp. For those not familiar, he's primarily known as an Indie Film actor,
he also directed/produced the movie Buffalo66. Kinda strange to see an
album out on warp from him, but it sounded pretty good in the record
store- definitely closer to indierock than techno tho-

any other suggestions on genre-crossing techno related stuff thats
catching your ears?

p


On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Geoffrey Richards wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that the Khan who produced No Comprendo is from Germany.
At
> least that is what he said when he played (at the empty bottle in
chicago)
> with julee cruise about a month ago.  bizarre live show--the only person
> that comes to mind in comparison is cex, who also seeks audiece
> participation in his sets.  I'm a big julee cruise fan, and honestly
hadn't
> heard of khan before this show.  I preferred the stuff they played
together
> to his solo work.
>
> -geoff
>
> > >>




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[313] re:(313)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/technology

2001-10-23 Thread Geoffrey Richards
I think that Final Scratch opens doors for people.  Take for example a 
dj/producer who doesn't want to have to spend $50 for each dubplate, doesn't 
have the cash for that
nifty looking new vestax vinyl cutter, and doesn't have the connections to 
get their work published.


What if their production work -- if played live--would mostly consist of 
hitting play on the hard-disk recording device?  I think that this 
technology presents opportunities

for more original music to be played out.

Granted, I think that artists should be reimbursed for their work (ie should 
get paid for their mp3s or cds or records).  But for the price of the final 
scratch (since I have a
computer, and have some recorded music) I can play my music in the context I 
intended it to be played--on turntables for a crowd.


-geoff

>Be patient

>Ever heard of the step by step program ?
>we move slowly
>first we imitate then we innovate
>
>But i'm not gonne tell you here how to lay down you creativity on a tool
>it ain't all 'bout what's here now ;-)
>
>Mad'R
>
> > Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH!
> > How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what
>certain
> > Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago?
> > Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for 
djs

>who
> > lack the ability to do it by hand.
> > Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over.
> >
> > back.Bone
> >
> >
> > >From: Yair Etziony
> > >To: "'Vince Woolums'" , "'313@hyperreal.org'"
> > ><313@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere
> > >Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:25:07 +0200
> > >
> > >Regards.
> > > i really enjoyed reading your stuff vince i think that u r like 90%
> > >right.
> > >most of the time we think that technology will make us more innovative
>and
> > >more creative, but alas i think technology is just making us more and
>more
> > >dependent on it.
> > > creative is something that comes from the mind not something u can 
have
> > >with technology, like any new gimmik the final scratch will come and 
go.

>i
> > >am not too sure that vinyls will stay for ever but i know one thing- 
all

> > >the
> > >new technology stuff for dj`s is simple uncreative. they made software
>who
> > >acts as turntables ,they make cd who acts like a turntable. if 
technology

> > >were really creative they would just try to immitate but to innovate
> > >something REALLY new.
> > >
> > >y/
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Vince Woolums [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:54 PM
> > >To: 313 List
> > >Subject: re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere
> > >
> > >
> > > > i don't think you understand what final scratch is, and how de9(?) 
was

> > >made.
> > > > final scratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular 
turntables

> > >and
> > >a
> > > > regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like
>you
> > >would a
> > > > slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file 
slows

> > >down
> > >etc.
> > > > you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or 
peak

> > >etc.
> > > > anything you do with you do live.
> > >
> > >i'm briefed on final scratch. i've seen acquav!va use it. in addition,
> > >i'm
> > >aware of the production techniques involved in the creation of both 
de9

>and
> > >closer to the edit. i'm also aware of the physics behind the 
technology.

> > >i've watched these develpments rather closely.
> > >
> > >you're missing one of my points: that many other DJs dont need it, 
dont

> > >prefer it, and whose performance would be limited by said technology.
> > >
> > > > as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out,
>and
> > >is
> > >hard
> > > > to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed 
all

> > >over
> > >the
> > > > place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to 
more

> > >music. what
> > > > you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level 
and

> > > > inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to.
> > > > instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record 
stores

> > >determine
> > > > what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that
>cares
> > >to post
> > > > them.
> > >
> > >your words are very interesting. so what if vinyl is heavy, wears out
>and
> > >is hard to distribute? all of those things are unique to the DJ trade
>and
> > >the art form. thomas brinkmann is able to utilize a unique 
technological
> > >tool, one final scratch can't even approach and that relies on vinyl 
and

> > >not
> > >mp3.
> > >
> > >that not just anyone can have any track is central to my argument. 
dont
> > >think i'm preaching vinyl elitism - but if everyone had access to any 
and
> > >every track, would they create something unique, special, or anything 
but

> > >homogenized? here's an analogy - if everyone ha

Re: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread Geoffrey Richards
I'm pretty sure that the Khan who produced No Comprendo is from Germany.  At 
least that is what he said when he played (at the empty bottle in chicago) 
with julee cruise about a month ago.  bizarre live show--the only person 
that comes to mind in comparison is cex, who also seeks audiece 
participation in his sets.  I'm a big julee cruise fan, and honestly hadn't 
heard of khan before this show.  I preferred the stuff they played together 
to his solo work.


-geoff


>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:30 AM
>> To: Batory, Jason; 'FC3 Richards'
>> Cc: '313'
>> Subject: RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
>>
>>
>> The Khan who produced for DJungle Fever also produced as Bizz OD, which 
I
>> believe is the name that most of the DJungle Fever releases are under. 
I

>> believe he's from NY and did acid techno with a house touch here and
> there.
>> I've also seen his name as "Khan Oral." He also did a good deal of work 
on

>> the Force Inc. label in the mid 90's.
>>
>> I have a few of the Force releases and a few of the DJungle Fever ones 
as

>> well. They are all quite good acid techno/house.
>>
>> That's all I know.
>>
>> At 01:12 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Batory, Jason wrote:
>>> Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out there. One is 
a
>>> group of 3 guys producing "tribal house" and the other is a New 
Yorker,

> who
>>> has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for Playhouse. 
The

>>> latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No Comprendo, which I
>> really
>>> like mainly because its quite different to everything else at the
> moment -
>> a
>>> mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest vocals 
including

> Jon
>>> Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't know if 
it's

> the
>>> same Khan you have, or think you have. ???
>>>
>>> Respect
>>> JasonB
>>>
 --
 From: FC3 Richards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:17 PM
 To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
 Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

 I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm broke) and i
 really
 enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if there are 
any

 other
 good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i heard he used to
> do
 some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is the 
farthest

 thing
 from this release since everything i have heard off of that label has
>> been
 hard acid (good too!)...
 and since i am thinking about dying and everything because of this
>> funeral
 music thread i was thinking that i would probably play soemthing more
 ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I absolutely love
> the
 dub
 CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that played...if i 
was

>> to
 be
 loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would have to go with
 Three
 Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...


 but i'm not dying...

 jeff


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[313] Anyone know what ....

2001-10-23 Thread M Elliot-Knight

Mark Ambrose is doing (recording wise)?

I posed this question about a week ago but got no answers but there was a 
Richie Hawtin discussion going on to distract everyone.


MEK

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[313] Royksopp

2001-10-23 Thread M Elliot-Knight
Ok so they aren't from Detroit and I'm not sure they have any connection in 
any way to the city but has anyone heard their full length album? I picked 
up the Eple EP with the Bjorn Torske remix and it's so much fun listening to 
that I want to hear more from them.


MEK

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Re: [313] techno/jazz

2001-10-23 Thread M Elliot-Knight
Yes, I must agree. The broken beat stuff is really where some of the best 
jazz leaning sounds are coming from. Seiji (in all of his guises), Nubain 
Mindz, Mustang, and on and on. Still trying to get my head around the Nubian 
Mindz full length. Also, as a added bonus, it never fails to attract a crowd 
around the decks to see what you're playing.

Awesome stuff.

MEK



From: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] techno/jazz
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:26:39 -0400

Mark's stuff and on the other side of the world, the West
London/Broken Beat stuff are the most promising jazz/electronic
hotbeds to me.

If we're still talking "techno" and jazz, has anybody mentioned Jamie
Hodge (Born Under a Rhyming Planet)?

He'd probably argue that there isn't a lot of common ground between
them, but in my opinion, Jamie managed to find some.

-d
At 10:29 AM -0400 10/23/01, Ian wrote:

on 10/23/01 7:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about Mark de-Clive Lowe?? Maybe in the jazz camp more than techno, 
but

 still the electronics is a pretty crucial part of his sound.

 His album "Six Degrees" is wicked. He's also pretty damn awesome live 
as

 well.


Is anybody else tired of waiting for a non-japanese release?  C'mon
Universal!
--
im


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RE: [313] techno/jazz ---> jazz/techno

2001-10-23 Thread M Elliot-Knight
Don't know if these were mentioned (though they aren't techno per say they 
were influential in the way they structured their music)...


The Art Ensamble of Chicago
Max Roach
Lester Bowie
Don Cherry
Pharoah Sanders
Mandrill (on the funk/jazz/rock side)
Bud Powell (one, if not, the best piano players ever)
Ahmad Jamal
Bill Evans

MEK





From: "Mann, Ravinder   [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: [313] techno/jazz --->  jazz/techno
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:03:25 +0100


> can someone recommend me some albums by jazz musicians
> that are in the jazz/techno vein, something that influenced kirk,
> craig, ian o'brien, stacy
>
You could try theseboth contain facinating sleeves as well.

Herbie Hancock - HeadHunters
Miles Davis/Bill Laswell - Panthalassa

Rav.

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Re: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread Jason Kessler
Liquide Air was the sh*t! Bad-ass acid track!

-J

on 10/23/01 12:35 PM, Mad'R at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> that double 10" is very fine
> (wasn't it very tribal ??)
> I have the Liquide Air E.p. on blue vinyl (blue 003) with M.S. Applegate on
> vocals
> also very fine
> 
> Mad'R
> - Original Message -
> From: "Holly MacDonald-Korth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Eric Scuccimarra'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Batory, Jason"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'FC3 Richards'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
> 
> 
>> aren't walker and khan air liquide???
>> 
>> look for stuff out as air liquide... i have a killer 2x10 from about 5
> years
>> ago...
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:30 AM
>> To: Batory, Jason; 'FC3 Richards'
>> Cc: '313'
>> Subject: RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
>> 
>> 
>> The Khan who produced for DJungle Fever also produced as Bizz OD, which I
>> believe is the name that most of the DJungle Fever releases are under. I
>> believe he's from NY and did acid techno with a house touch here and
> there.
>> I've also seen his name as "Khan Oral." He also did a good deal of work on
>> the Force Inc. label in the mid 90's.
>> 
>> I have a few of the Force releases and a few of the DJungle Fever ones as
>> well. They are all quite good acid techno/house.
>> 
>> That's all I know.
>> 
>> At 01:12 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Batory, Jason wrote:
>>> Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out there. One is a
>>> group of 3 guys producing "tribal house" and the other is a New Yorker,
> who
>>> has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for Playhouse. The
>>> latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No Comprendo, which I
>> really
>>> like mainly because its quite different to everything else at the
> moment -
>> a
>>> mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest vocals including
> Jon
>>> Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't know if it's
> the
>>> same Khan you have, or think you have. ???
>>> 
>>> Respect
>>> JasonB
>>> 
 --
 From: FC3 Richards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:17 PM
 To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
 Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
 
 I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm broke) and i
 really
 enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if there are any
 other
 good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i heard he used to
> do
 some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is the farthest
 thing
 from this release since everything i have heard off of that label has
>> been
 hard acid (good too!)...
 and since i am thinking about dying and everything because of this
>> funeral
 music thread i was thinking that i would probably play soemthing more
 ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I absolutely love
> the
 dub
 CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that played...if i was
>> to
 be
 loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would have to go with
 Three
 Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...
 
 
 but i'm not dying...
 
 jeff
 
 
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Re: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread Mad'R
that double 10" is very fine
(wasn't it very tribal ??)
I have the Liquide Air E.p. on blue vinyl (blue 003) with M.S. Applegate on
vocals
also very fine

Mad'R
- Original Message -
From: "Holly MacDonald-Korth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Eric Scuccimarra'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Batory, Jason"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'FC3 Richards'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN


> aren't walker and khan air liquide???
>
> look for stuff out as air liquide... i have a killer 2x10 from about 5
years
> ago...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:30 AM
> To: Batory, Jason; 'FC3 Richards'
> Cc: '313'
> Subject: RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
>
>
> The Khan who produced for DJungle Fever also produced as Bizz OD, which I
> believe is the name that most of the DJungle Fever releases are under. I
> believe he's from NY and did acid techno with a house touch here and
there.
> I've also seen his name as "Khan Oral." He also did a good deal of work on
> the Force Inc. label in the mid 90's.
>
> I have a few of the Force releases and a few of the DJungle Fever ones as
> well. They are all quite good acid techno/house.
>
> That's all I know.
>
> At 01:12 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Batory, Jason wrote:
> >Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out there. One is a
> >group of 3 guys producing "tribal house" and the other is a New Yorker,
who
> >has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for Playhouse. The
> >latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No Comprendo, which I
> really
> >like mainly because its quite different to everything else at the
moment -
> a
> >mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest vocals including
Jon
> >Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't know if it's
the
> >same Khan you have, or think you have. ???
> >
> >Respect
> >JasonB
> >
> > > --
> > > From: FC3 Richards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:17 PM
> > > To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
> > > Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
> > >
> > > I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm broke) and i
> > > really
> > > enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if there are any
> > > other
> > > good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i heard he used to
do
> > > some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is the farthest
> > > thing
> > > from this release since everything i have heard off of that label has
> been
> > > hard acid (good too!)...
> > > and since i am thinking about dying and everything because of this
> funeral
> > > music thread i was thinking that i would probably play soemthing more
> > > ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I absolutely love
the
> > > dub
> > > CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that played...if i was
> to
> > > be
> > > loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would have to go with
> > > Three
> > > Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...
> > >
> > >
> > > but i'm not dying...
> > >
> > > jeff
> > >
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RE: [313] K Hand - (was: Astralwerks - Detroit Beyond the 3rd Wav e LP)

2001-10-23 Thread James Bucknell


global warning on warp.
one of the best tracks out of detroit.
of course, it's impossible to find on vinyl. easy enough to get on cd.
james
www.jbucknell.com




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Subject:  RE: [313] K Hand - (was: Astralwerks - Detroit Beyond the 3rd Wav e
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"Come On Now Baby" from the "Detroit: Beyond the Third Wave" comp is my
favorite K Hand track ever. Really slamming dancefloor production and a
gritty, nagging vocal hook. I've got some of her other stuff, including the
new LP on Tresor, and haven't really heard anything I liked as much as that.
Any suggestions on good K Hand stuff, perhaps in the vein of that track?

Brian

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Re: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread Kao Jyan
Cem Oral (Jammin' Unit) and Ingmar Koch (Walker) are Air Liquide (i think).
Nephology is a great album as is Sonic Weather Machine.


> aren't walker and khan air liquide???
>
> look for stuff out as air liquide... i have a killer 2x10 from about 5
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[313] Khan - Air Liquid - Bizz OD

2001-10-23 Thread James David Beard
I believe Khan is actually the brother of one of the Air 
Liquide guys-- Walker methinks.


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Re: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread Elliot Taub
Alright, since I work for Temple Records, Khan's old record store here in
NYC, I should set the record straight somewhat.

Air Liquide is Khan's brother, Cem. Khan is responsible for Bizz OD, Super
8, Cube 40, Captain Comatose and a million other things. His real name is
Can (pronounced "Khan") Oral (pronounced "Oh-raal"). He's a Turk, originally
from Cologne, who emigrated to the US years ago. His brother Cem still lives
there, and was the one responsible for opening up the shops in Cologne. Khan
lives in New York now. He opened up and used to own Temple Records back in
95.

His music is very eclectic, from early minimal house and acid to trip hop.
Nowadays he's doing a peculiar mix of psychedlic rock and minimal techno.
Good stuff, fun and trashy.

e


> From: Holly MacDonald-Korth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:12:44 -0600
> To: "'Eric Scuccimarra'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Batory,
> Jason"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'FC3 Richards'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
> 
> aren't walker and khan air liquide???
> 
> look for stuff out as air liquide... i have a killer 2x10 from about 5 years
> ago...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:30 AM
> To: Batory, Jason; 'FC3 Richards'
> Cc: '313'
> Subject: RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
> 
> 
> The Khan who produced for DJungle Fever also produced as Bizz OD, which I
> believe is the name that most of the DJungle Fever releases are under. I
> believe he's from NY and did acid techno with a house touch here and there.
> I've also seen his name as "Khan Oral." He also did a good deal of work on
> the Force Inc. label in the mid 90's.
> 
> I have a few of the Force releases and a few of the DJungle Fever ones as
> well. They are all quite good acid techno/house.
> 
> That's all I know.
> 
> At 01:12 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Batory, Jason wrote:
>> Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out there. One is a
>> group of 3 guys producing "tribal house" and the other is a New Yorker, who
>> has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for Playhouse. The
>> latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No Comprendo, which I
> really
>> like mainly because its quite different to everything else at the moment -
> a
>> mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest vocals including Jon
>> Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't know if it's the
>> same Khan you have, or think you have. ???
>> 
>> Respect
>> JasonB
>> 
>>> --
>>> From: FC3 Richards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:17 PM
>>> To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
>>> Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
>>> 
>>> I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm broke) and i
>>> really
>>> enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if there are any
>>> other
>>> good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i heard he used to do
>>> some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is the farthest
>>> thing
>>> from this release since everything i have heard off of that label has
> been
>>> hard acid (good too!)...
>>> and since i am thinking about dying and everything because of this
> funeral
>>> music thread i was thinking that i would probably play soemthing more
>>> ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I absolutely love the
>>> dub
>>> CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that played...if i was
> to
>>> be
>>> loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would have to go with
>>> Three
>>> Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> but i'm not dying...
>>> 
>>> jeff
>>> 
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RE: [313] techno/jazz

2001-10-23 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:27 PM
| 
| If we're still talking "techno" and jazz, has anybody mentioned Jamie 
| Hodge (Born Under a Rhyming Planet)?

Not yet, but I remember the natty little sig he used when he posted to the
list... good music too!

Brendan

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[313] RE: (313) techno/jazz

2001-10-23 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
There is a non-japanese release, don't know on what label though. I'll dig it up
tonight and send you the details tomorrow. I think I ordered it through CDNOW,
but I am not sure...

W

on 10/23/01 7:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How about Mark de-Clive Lowe?? Maybe in the jazz camp more than techno, but
> still the electronics is a pretty crucial part of his sound.
>
> His album "Six Degrees" is wicked. He's also pretty damn awesome live as
> well.

Is anybody else tired of waiting for a non-japanese release?  C'mon
Universal!


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Re: [313] techno/jazz

2001-10-23 Thread Dan Sicko
Mark's stuff and on the other side of the world, the West 
London/Broken Beat stuff are the most promising jazz/electronic 
hotbeds to me.


If we're still talking "techno" and jazz, has anybody mentioned Jamie 
Hodge (Born Under a Rhyming Planet)?


He'd probably argue that there isn't a lot of common ground between 
them, but in my opinion, Jamie managed to find some.


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on 10/23/01 7:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 How about Mark de-Clive Lowe?? Maybe in the jazz camp more than techno, but
 still the electronics is a pretty crucial part of his sound.

 His album "Six Degrees" is wicked. He's also pretty damn awesome live as
 well.


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RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
aren't walker and khan air liquide???

look for stuff out as air liquide... i have a killer 2x10 from about 5 years
ago...

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From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:30 AM
To: Batory, Jason; 'FC3 Richards'
Cc: '313'
Subject: RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN


The Khan who produced for DJungle Fever also produced as Bizz OD, which I 
believe is the name that most of the DJungle Fever releases are under. I 
believe he's from NY and did acid techno with a house touch here and there. 
I've also seen his name as "Khan Oral." He also did a good deal of work on 
the Force Inc. label in the mid 90's.

I have a few of the Force releases and a few of the DJungle Fever ones as 
well. They are all quite good acid techno/house.

That's all I know.

At 01:12 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Batory, Jason wrote:
>Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out there. One is a
>group of 3 guys producing "tribal house" and the other is a New Yorker, who
>has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for Playhouse. The
>latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No Comprendo, which I
really
>like mainly because its quite different to everything else at the moment -
a
>mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest vocals including Jon
>Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't know if it's the
>same Khan you have, or think you have. ???
>
>Respect
>JasonB
>
> > --
> > From: FC3 Richards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:17 PM
> > To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
> > Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
> >
> > I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm broke) and i
> > really
> > enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if there are any
> > other
> > good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i heard he used to do
> > some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is the farthest
> > thing
> > from this release since everything i have heard off of that label has
been
> > hard acid (good too!)...
> > and since i am thinking about dying and everything because of this
funeral
> > music thread i was thinking that i would probably play soemthing more
> > ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I absolutely love the
> > dub
> > CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that played...if i was
to
> > be
> > loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would have to go with
> > Three
> > Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...
> >
> >
> > but i'm not dying...
> >
> > jeff
> >
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Re: [313] techno/jazz

2001-10-23 Thread Ian
on 10/23/01 7:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How about Mark de-Clive Lowe?? Maybe in the jazz camp more than techno, but
> still the electronics is a pretty crucial part of his sound.
> 
> His album "Six Degrees" is wicked. He's also pretty damn awesome live as
> well.

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Universal!
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[313] Red Planet (where there's a Will...)

2001-10-23 Thread Wes
> > Who is this?

The Martian a.k.a. Will Thomas. While the actual physical identity of the
spirits involved remains classified at a fairly low-priority level (one
transmission has it DJ Rolando also contributes to the series), it
appears likely that humanoids will be posing this question for many
earth-years to come. 

For what it's worth, protagonists in (English) literary texts with the
name of 'Will' go back 6-7 centuries (e.g. 'Long Will' in William
Langland's long poem, 'Piers Plowman'). This lends a precedent to
matters here: these protagonists are often dogged, relentlessly
determined individuals who simply refuse to give up--though they may have
to go to hell and back to achieve their aims. Power is their middle name.

Through the coming together of Detroit techno artists on the Red Planet to
create timeless sonic messages through sheer force of 'Will', we have our
clearest answer to all the 'Doubting Thomases' who plague daily existence.
We have 'Will Thomas'--proof positive of the sustaining, transformative
power of this electronic soul music: true, unbastardized 'trance' that 
shapes a new destiny for all those open to its call. Join us in our
mission.

Cheers,
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RE: [313] Khan - Air Liquid - Bizz OD

2001-10-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Now i am in question-mode, what about Kit Builders, also from  Koln and they
have a similair sound.

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Giles Wrote:
> Air Liquide is Walker and Jammin Unit, from Koln. Associates in music
> with Khan, co-releases, co-camp, etc. Electro Bunker parties were at
> "LiquidSky" club in Koln, run by walker and his partner Thomas Thorn,
> lots of live recordings.
> 
> Khan owns Temple records as far as I know. Elliot?

KJ wrote:
>> Isn't Kahn also one of the people behind Air Liquid and 
> Electro Bunker
> > Cologne? Is Kahn also the same guy who recorded Bad Computer for
> > Temple
> > Records? And if there anyone who has a spare copy left
> > 
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Re: [313] Khan - Air Liquid - Bizz OD

2001-10-23 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
Khan is behind Air Liquid, I believe. And he also did several records for 
Temple in the mid 90's. I don't know about Electro Bunker.


At 04:05 PM 10/23/2001 +0200, Jongsma, K.J. wrote:

Isn't Kahn also one of the people behind Air Liquid and Electro Bunker
Cologne? Is Kahn also the same guy who recorded Bad Computer for Temple
Records? And if there anyone who has a spare copy left

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> The Khan who produced for DJungle Fever also produced as Bizz
> OD, which I
> believe is the name that most of the DJungle Fever releases
> are under. I
> believe he's from NY and did acid techno with a house touch
> here and there.
> I've also seen his name as "Khan Oral." He also did a good
> deal of work on
> the Force Inc. label in the mid 90's.
>
> I have a few of the Force releases and a few of the DJungle
> Fever ones as
> well. They are all quite good acid techno/house.
>
> That's all I know.
>
> At 01:12 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Batory, Jason wrote:
> >Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out
> there. One is a
> >group of 3 guys producing "tribal house" and the other is a
> New Yorker, who
> >has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for
> Playhouse. The
> >latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No
> Comprendo, which I really
> >like mainly because its quite different to everything else
> at the moment - a
> >mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest
> vocals including Jon
> >Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't
> know if it's the
> >same Khan you have, or think you have. ???
> >
> >Respect
> >JasonB
> >
> > > --
> > > From: FC3 Richards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:17 PM
> > > To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
> > > Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
> > >
> > > I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm
> broke) and i
> > > really
> > > enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if
> there are any
> > > other
> > > good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i
> heard he used to do
> > > some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is
> the farthest
> > > thing
> > > from this release since everything i have heard off of
> that label has been
> > > hard acid (good too!)...
> > > and since i am thinking about dying and everything
> because of this funeral
> > > music thread i was thinking that i would probably play
> soemthing more
> > > ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I
> absolutely love the
> > > dub
> > > CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that
> played...if i was to
> > > be
> > > loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would
> have to go with
> > > Three
> > > Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...
> > >
> > >
> > > but i'm not dying...
> > >
> > > jeff
> > >
> > >
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Re: [313] Record shops in Paris (OT)

2001-10-23 Thread Thomas Van Steen
Few record shops in Paris :

BLACK LABEL (Bastille area)
25, rue Keller
75011 PARIS
http://www.blacklabel-records.com/
(Jungle / Drum'n'Bass)


HOKUS POKUS  (Bastille area)
32, boulevard Richard Lenoir
75011 PARIS
(Hard Techno, Hardcore )


BASTILLE VINYLS (Bastille area)
4 RUE SEDAIN
75011 PARIS
(Garage/House)
My favorite record shop :)


DMC (Bastille area)
24, bd Richard Lenoir
75011 Paris


TECHNO IMPORT (Bastille area)
16, rue des taillandiers
75011 PARIS
(Techno, House, Trance, Jungle,...)


VIBE STATION  (Bastille area)
57 r Fbg St Antoine
75011 PARIS
(House, Techno Hiphop)


SALINAS SHOP RECORDS
21 rue des 3 Frères
75018 PARIS


DA GROOVE
17 r de l'Echiquier
75010 PARIS
(Metro Bonne Nouvelle)
(Groove, Funk, Garage)


CLUB NEWS (Chatelet area)
37 r St Honoré
75001 PARIS
(House dancefloor)


KATAPULT (M° Parmentier)
10, E. LOCKROY
75011 PARIS
Tel : 01 47 00 33 75
(Minimal techno, minimal House, triphop,hiphop,jungle,house jazzy)
Good shop but it must move soon... I think it's closed at this moment.


BLACK MARKET RECORDS PARIS (Chatelet area)
52 RUE D'ARGOUT
75002 PARIS




Cheers,

Tom Van Steen from Paris
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> Hi,
>
> I am going to be visiting Paris next month. I was wondering if any of you
> had any recommendations for record shopping. I don't know Paris very well,
> so any directions would also be appreciated.
>
> Hit me back privately.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nik
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[313] Khan - Air Liquid - Bizz OD

2001-10-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Isn't Kahn also one of the people behind Air Liquid and Electro Bunker
Cologne? Is Kahn also the same guy who recorded Bad Computer for Temple
Records? And if there anyone who has a spare copy left

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> The Khan who produced for DJungle Fever also produced as Bizz 
> OD, which I 
> believe is the name that most of the DJungle Fever releases 
> are under. I 
> believe he's from NY and did acid techno with a house touch 
> here and there. 
> I've also seen his name as "Khan Oral." He also did a good 
> deal of work on 
> the Force Inc. label in the mid 90's.
> 
> I have a few of the Force releases and a few of the DJungle 
> Fever ones as 
> well. They are all quite good acid techno/house.
> 
> That's all I know.
> 
> At 01:12 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Batory, Jason wrote:
> >Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out 
> there. One is a
> >group of 3 guys producing "tribal house" and the other is a 
> New Yorker, who
> >has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for 
> Playhouse. The
> >latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No 
> Comprendo, which I really
> >like mainly because its quite different to everything else 
> at the moment - a
> >mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest 
> vocals including Jon
> >Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't 
> know if it's the
> >same Khan you have, or think you have. ???
> >
> >Respect
> >JasonB
> >
> > > --
> > > From: FC3 Richards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:17 PM
> > > To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
> > > Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
> > >
> > > I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm 
> broke) and i
> > > really
> > > enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if 
> there are any
> > > other
> > > good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i 
> heard he used to do
> > > some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is 
> the farthest
> > > thing
> > > from this release since everything i have heard off of 
> that label has been
> > > hard acid (good too!)...
> > > and since i am thinking about dying and everything 
> because of this funeral
> > > music thread i was thinking that i would probably play 
> soemthing more
> > > ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I 
> absolutely love the
> > > dub
> > > CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that 
> played...if i was to
> > > be
> > > loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would 
> have to go with
> > > Three
> > > Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...
> > >
> > >
> > > but i'm not dying...
> > >
> > > jeff
> > >
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Re: [313] Red Planet CD comp information

2001-10-23 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Mann, Ravinder   [CCS] wrote on Tue, 23 Oct 2001 about following:

> Another request for information...
>
> Just been to the local store and seen a Red Planet complation on Submerge.
> Who is this?

mostly The Martian and visitors. (for example eddie flashin fowlkes,
who did "sex in zero gravity", i recall that on the 12"s i've seen juan
atkins and drexciya mentioned too)

> It seemed like a collection of tracks with cat numbers like RP1 RP2 etc.

yes, its a collection of red planet releases. releases are identified by
their catalogue number.

> I recognised one of the track titles to be 'Sex in Zero Gravity',
> as it gets a mention on this list quite a lot.
> but a £17.99 I was reluctant to buy on sight.

it's worth it. just buy it.

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RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
The Khan who produced for DJungle Fever also produced as Bizz OD, which I 
believe is the name that most of the DJungle Fever releases are under. I 
believe he's from NY and did acid techno with a house touch here and there. 
I've also seen his name as "Khan Oral." He also did a good deal of work on 
the Force Inc. label in the mid 90's.


I have a few of the Force releases and a few of the DJungle Fever ones as 
well. They are all quite good acid techno/house.


That's all I know.

At 01:12 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Batory, Jason wrote:

Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out there. One is a
group of 3 guys producing "tribal house" and the other is a New Yorker, who
has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for Playhouse. The
latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No Comprendo, which I really
like mainly because its quite different to everything else at the moment - a
mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest vocals including Jon
Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't know if it's the
same Khan you have, or think you have. ???

Respect
JasonB

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> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:17 PM
> To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
> Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
>
> I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm broke) and i
> really
> enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if there are any
> other
> good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i heard he used to do
> some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is the farthest
> thing
> from this release since everything i have heard off of that label has been
> hard acid (good too!)...
> and since i am thinking about dying and everything because of this funeral
> music thread i was thinking that i would probably play soemthing more
> ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I absolutely love the
> dub
> CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that played...if i was to
> be
> loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would have to go with
> Three
> Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...
>
>
> but i'm not dying...
>
> jeff
>
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RE: [313] Red Planet CD comp information

2001-10-23 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unless you plan to stock up on all the 12"s (which I would advise, but it's
the priciest option), I'd strongly recommend buying the CD! If you actually
haven't heard any of the tracks you will be breathless upon first listen.
And if you're not impressed I'll eat my hat!

Brendan

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| To: '313'
| Subject: [313] Red Planet CD comp information
| 
| 
| Another request for information...
| 
| Just been to the local store and seen a Red Planet complation 
| on Submerge. 
| 
| Who is this?
| 
| It seemed like a collection of tracks with cat numbers like 
| RP1 RP2 etc.
| 
| I recognised one of the track titles to be 'Sex in Zero 
| Gravity',  as it gets a mention on this list quite a lot.
| but a £17.99 I was reluctant to buy on sight.
| 
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[313] Red Planet CD comp information

2001-10-23 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
Another request for information...

Just been to the local store and seen a Red Planet complation on Submerge. 

Who is this?

It seemed like a collection of tracks with cat numbers like RP1 RP2 etc.

I recognised one of the track titles to be 'Sex in Zero Gravity',  as it gets a 
mention on this list quite a lot.
but a £17.99 I was reluctant to buy on sight.

Many Thanks

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[313] renewed interest

2001-10-23 Thread Samuel Hobbs
after some time off i have a renewed interest in going
out in detroit and finding something interesting to
listen too.  I used to go to motor quite often, but i
have heard that it is truly a dead club with no flavor
left.  so i would love some recomendations on
something to do that is somewhat challenging or
interesting.  some have recomended porterstreet and
the lager house to me.  what are people's thoughts on
the two venues.  also is there a website for their
upcoming events.

-sam

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[313] Record shops in Paris (OT)

2001-10-23 Thread Nik Stoltzman

Hi,

I am going to be visiting Paris next month. I was wondering if any of you 
had any recommendations for record shopping. I don't know Paris very well, 
so any directions would also be appreciated.


Hit me back privately.

Cheers,

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Re: [313] techno/jazz

2001-10-23 Thread David Gillies
> Im wanting to hear more jazz infused techno as of late...mixing live
instrumentation and
> and techno machine driven patterns and effects. Maybe is appeals to my
'rare groove'
> listening side...

How about Mark de-Clive Lowe?? Maybe in the jazz camp more than techno, but
still the electronics is a pretty crucial part of his sound.

His album "Six Degrees" is wicked. He's also pretty damn awesome live as
well.

His website: http://www.jazz.co.nz/mark/index2.html

dave.

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RE: [313] techno/jazz ---> jazz/techno

2001-10-23 Thread Alastair_Jones

If you like the latest Morgan Geist 'Super' then try out some of the stuff
on the UK Nuphonic label.
Faze Action's album of a few years ago sounds similar.





"Mann, Ravinder [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 23/10/2001 08:03:25 AM

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Subject:  RE: [313] techno/jazz --->  jazz/techno



> can someone recommend me some albums by jazz musicians
> that are in the jazz/techno vein, something that influenced kirk,
> craig, ian o'brien, stacy
>
 You could try theseboth contain facinating sleeves as well.

 Herbie Hancock - HeadHunters
 Miles Davis/Bill Laswell - Panthalassa

 Rav.

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RE: [313] techno/jazz ---> jazz/techno

2001-10-23 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]

> can someone recommend me some albums by jazz musicians
> that are in the jazz/techno vein, something that influenced kirk,
> craig, ian o'brien, stacy
> 
You could try theseboth contain facinating sleeves as well.

Herbie Hancock - HeadHunters
Miles Davis/Bill Laswell - Panthalassa

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RE: [313] technology

2001-10-23 Thread dobyrush
yep, it was woody's party.  took place on an unbelievably cold night 
in minneapolis.


At 9:51 AM -0700 10/22/01, FC3 Richards wrote:

wasn't that party thrown by woody mcbride?  i have heard numerous times that
party was one of the best in the MW...kinda makes we wanna live in the old
times...


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 Sent:  Saturday, October 20, 2001 9:59 PM
 To:Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit
 Subject:   Re: [313] technology

 he is dropping is own version of Get Ur Freak On  but it's still
 cool nonetheless.

 his supposed lack of humor is a common misconception, it seems.  he
 once opened a set in minneapolis with the entirety of Stairway To
 Heaven - and i mean the whole damn song.  the party was called
 Stairway To Headphones, hence the song.  rich went on typically late
 in the evening, i think right after josh wink.  so picture several
 hours of techno interrrupted by a very long Led Zeppelin song.  damn
 that was funny.  people had no idea what to do.

 At 7:26 PM +1000 10/19/01, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
 >Well dude is dropping Missy Elliott into his sets too now, I read in
 Jockey
 >Slut. Guess this means I get a reprieve from techno purists who scoff at
 my
 >R&B CDs now. Thanks Rich! ;)  Now I dare Richie to drop Jay-Z or Bubba
 >Sparxxx. ;)
 >
 >>all i have to say is who else has ventured out into the land of
 >>experimantation like hawtin has on the closer to the edit CD??
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RE: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere

2001-10-23 Thread Berislav


>That track "Cotton Eyed Joe" did it  first. I did sample Sandy Bull
>performing his arrangement of Carmina Burana, if that makes it any more
>acceptable ...


it wasn`t Cotton eyed joe, i beleive it was  RMB with "banjo love"
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Re: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere

2001-10-23 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Kent williams wrote on Mon, 22 Oct 2001 about following:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Scotto wrote:
> >
> > From: "Berislav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > but please "guitar", drums, what is next...banjo.
> > >
> > sorry already been done kent williams samples a banjo in one of his tunes.
> >
>
> That track "Cotton Eyed Joe" did it  first.

i have one house 12" from time before "cotton eyed joe" with banjo -
it's on loaded label but i can't recall the name of the track or ep. i
can check it out when i get home if someone's interested.
(which i doubt :)

> I did sample Sandy Bull
> performing his arrangement of Carmina Burana, if that makes it any more
> acceptable ...

there's one quite cheesy rave track made from carmina burana from around
1991 or so if my memory serves right - it was quite horrible.

anyway, its just music, let people sample what they want. and look at
the house scene, there's live drummers, guitarists, bassists and so on.

how is this relevant to hawtin anymore?

on the hawtin subject, i thought the new album is pretty cool. i don't
mind it being done the way it's done, megamixes still aren't a new form
of art, as i've said earlier on this same subject.

let's keep the funk alive,
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RE: [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread Batory, Jason
Well, as far as I know there are two different Khans out there. One is a
group of 3 guys producing "tribal house" and the other is a New Yorker, who
has also produced under the moniker Captain Comatose for Playhouse. The
latter just released an LP on Playhouse: Khan - No Comprendo, which I really
like mainly because its quite different to everything else at the moment - a
mix of indie, lounge and, well, techno - lots of guest vocals including Jon
Spencer, yeeha! So I would recommend this, however I don't know if it's the
same Khan you have, or think you have. ???

Respect
JasonB

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> From: FC3 Richards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:17 PM
> To:   '313@hyperreal.org'
> Subject:  [313] 1-900-GET-KHAN
> 
> I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm broke) and i
> really
> enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if there are any
> other
> good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i heard he used to do
> some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is the farthest
> thing
> from this release since everything i have heard off of that label has been
> hard acid (good too!)...
> and since i am thinking about dying and everything because of this funeral
> music thread i was thinking that i would probably play soemthing more
> ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I absolutely love the
> dub
> CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that played...if i was to
> be
> loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would have to go with
> Three
> Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...
> 
> 
> but i'm not dying...
> 
> jeff
> 
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RE: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere

2001-10-23 Thread FC3 Richards
bad banjo use???  maybe some people should try other instruments...how about
a hard acid track with an accordian making the bass line.  that would be
tight.  maybe a washboard for percussionary enhancement (is that a real
phrase???) oh, and a picalo to use during the break down...
damn, i am going to be rich AND famous with these ideas


jeff

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> To:   Detroits Finest List
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> 
> 
> 
> Anyone remember The Grid? What about 'Cotton Eyed Joe'?  The Shaman?  All
> classic and bad examples of banjo use in electronic music.  I want to hear
> Kent's tune though.
> 
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RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere

2001-10-23 Thread FC3 Richards
is he talking about NSC??  i sure thought so.  only in detroit will you find
all of those things put on one record, and then there is still music to
listen to after all the fun carnie tricks!!  HOORAY FOR NSC!!!

cheers


jeff

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> >You sure as hell can't hang a mp3 file on the wall.
> Or make it blue, red, or green - nor can you make it play it from the
> inside 
> to the outer rim; have two tracks pressed side-by-side; etch funny, odd 
> words or messages to the majors into them; press them with pictures on the
> 
> surface... need I go on?
> 
> MEK
> 
> 
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> >people from their duty of actually making a record.
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[313] 1-900-GET-KHAN

2001-10-23 Thread FC3 Richards
I just put this record on hold at the record store (i'm broke) and i really
enjoyed a few of the tracks on here.  i was wondering if there are any other
good Khan records out there that sound like this.  i heard he used to do
some of the work over on the DJUNGLEFEVER label, which is the farthest thing
from this release since everything i have heard off of that label has been
hard acid (good too!)...
and since i am thinking about dying and everything because of this funeral
music thread i was thinking that i would probably play soemthing more
ambient.  Krueder and Dorfmeister comes to mind.  I absolutely love the dub
CD on the K & D Sessions.  i think i would have that played...if i was to be
loud and obnoxious like everyone knows me as, i would have to go with Three
Oh Three by Speedy J on probe...my favorite track...


but i'm not dying...

jeff


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RE: [313] Groovetech/BetaLounge

2001-10-23 Thread Michael Kim


hi, i got into Groovetech just fine tonight...  but i haven't been able to 
stream audio or video from their site for a long time.  :(  i've been trying 
to access their archived sets and no go.


Mike


From: Sam Karmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech/BetaLounge
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:42:36 -0700 (PDT)

Oops...

I think i crashed groovetech:^)  Last night i was
trying to stream a set, things went really weird and
my comp frose, when i tried it again i had the same
problem that you' ve been having.

sorry :^)

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RE: [313] Groovetech/BetaLounge

2001-10-23 Thread Sam Karmel
Oops...

I think i crashed groovetech:^)  Last night i was
trying to stream a set, things went really weird and
my comp frose, when i tried it again i had the same
problem that you' ve been having.

sorry :^)

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Re: [313] techno/jazz

2001-10-23 Thread Ian
on 10/22/01 7:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Add to that Spacetime Continuum's "Double Fine Zone" with the saxaphone bits
> and the Carl Craig-ish meoldies.

Right, but for some reason, I found this kind of "light" in comparison to
things like the Innerzone or Cinematic Orchestras.  It seemed to me that
only the soloist had any real understanding of jazz.  Hmmm.  Time for a
second listen I guess...
-- 
im
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Re: [313] Gettin' Wiggy Wit' It

2001-10-23 Thread M Elliot-Knight
La La Land reminds me of Flash in the way that the naration is more 
documentary... like he's just an observer of the going's on around him and 
he's making comments along the way. Velvet always come across as quite 
detached in his lyrical delivery.


MEK



From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Gettin' Wiggy Wit' It
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 04:27:24 +1000

Actually it was spelt "tekno punk" in Jockey Slut. That may make a
difference. Funny you should mention Felix! Those albums pretty much would
have been recorded at the same time.

I am not sure if La La Land is actually sensationalising drug use, it's 
much

more ambiguous, to my ears. It mixes well with Purple Pills though.

>'techno punk' wow that's a revivalist term I haven't heard since The 
Prodigy,
>Atari Teenage Riots and the movie 'Hackers'.  He's already been there, 
his

>schtick is running thin.
>
>> There are a lot of retro sounds in there which I kinda like.
>
>That makes two.  Felix Da Housecat beat him to it with 'Silver Screen 
Shower
>Scene'.  But then again everyone's been slamming the Germans for 
producing 80's
>inspired glam-tech for ever (Internation Gigolo DJ's anyone?) that is 
until now.

>
>La La Land is boring, to me it is the techno equivalent of D12's 'Purple
>Pills', another scholock production sensationalizing drug use.  I can't 
comment

>about the production because I would probably really like the track if he
>droned on about something other than drugs.  There's gotta be a million
>interesting stories to tell out there, that involve drugs (ie.  Noosa
>Heads 'Mushrooms', Green Velvet 'Flash'). La La Land isn't one of them.  
Though

>I'm sure Mr. Velvet could tell us a fair number.

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Re: [313] techno/jazz

2001-10-23 Thread M Elliot-Knight
Add to that Spacetime Continuum's "Double Fine Zone" with the saxaphone bits 
and the Carl Craig-ish meoldies.


MEK



From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mann, Ravinder   [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: The Music Institute <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] techno/jazz
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:19:05 -0400

on 10/22/01 10:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks for the feedbacklet me just add in
>
> Ian Simmonds - Last States of Nature on !K7
> to
> Innerzone Orchestra - Programmed and
> Stacey Pullen -Today is the Tommorow CDs i mentioned earlier
> for an idea of type of sound Im trying find.

I'm a bit surprised no one mentioned Cinematic Orchestra's "Motion"
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A3k9ks31la3ng

or Circadian Rhythm's "Internal Clock"
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A46rj283y05ja

Both of these really play with line between jazz and electronic.  They're
not electronic-flavored jazz, or jazz-flavored electronic music.  They 
exist

somewhere in between.

Another classic worthy of anybody's collection is Rainer Truby's mix
"Rootdown1999"
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Apr8ibkg90akb
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RE: [313] techno/jazz ---> jazz/techno

2001-10-23 Thread M Elliot-Knight
Not only has it been sampled like hell but there are a good number of cover 
versions as well.


MEK



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To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,   313  
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Subject: RE: [313] techno/jazz --->  jazz/techno
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:46:20 +0200

its -Expansions- one hell of a record.
y

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>Lonnie Liston Smith- idon`t recall the album name -but it was sampled 
like

>hell.


was it spinning wheel?

bye
rob


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Re: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere

2001-10-23 Thread Kent williams
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Scotto wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Berislav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > but please "guitar", drums, what is next...banjo.
> > 
> sorry already been done kent williams samples a banjo in one of his tunes.
> 

That track "Cotton Eyed Joe" did it  first. I did sample Sandy Bull
performing his arrangement of Carmina Burana, if that makes it any more
acceptable ...


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Re: [313] Re: Metro Area 4

2001-10-23 Thread ryan burns


i think metro area stuff is better composed.  morgan has better key 
structures and percusion.  sounds like wang takes some wild key stabs a 
little too much.


ryan



From: "et machina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Well... speakin for myself, I like Daniel Wang's stuff much more.
He can do no wrong for me personally, although he tends to be a crazy 
guy!

I'm gonna do an interview wit him soon for capsite.net
and I'll put sum crazy photos of him in it as well.
Did you hear the track on his CD with the theramin? : )

Any comments on his releases?


i love the wang! haha the only thing that bugs me is the recurring 
carribean

cruise-ship jazz feelings in his music.

hey check this new swedish label, Plej! kinda "metrofunk" (hey otto :P)
kinda micro-house or whatchever its called.
http://www.plej.se
has mp3's from their first release :)

jt

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