Re: [313] anti-technology
rebirth is a pretty useful program. with some solid compression, you can get some pretty pounding rhythms out of it, and if you're imaginative with your programming, it doesn't need to sound 'classic' anyways. I've used it before to get some interesting thumb drumming sounds out of it. And if you take the time to make your own mods- it's kinda like fruity loops with added filtering/effects. p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Eno is keen-o
Yeah, I agree about Aenima. I was actually thinking someone should give him Monolake's Gobi: The Desert to listen to. BTW, the new Monolake album, Cinemascope, is awesome. Respect JasonB -- From: Phonopsia[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:15 PM To: Rusty Blasco; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Eno is keen-o I imagine he doesn't really have his finger on the pulse of the underground scene either. I'd be really surprised if he had the same comments about Aenima. That's as macro as I've heard, being a 60 minute song, and you can't even really discern that it *is* a song rather than a live set until you've heard it a number of times. Besides that, I think it's silly to blame the tools. Cubase/Logic are as designed for the macro as for the micro - it's just a matter of how much attention you pay to the details. Same with any hardware sequencers/arrangers. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] techno/jazz - spring heel jack and omni trio
longtime jungle/jazz innovators spring heel jack recently released a new lp, masses, in cooperation with a jazz combo called the blue series continuum. probably the least drum-n-bass sounding record shj have ever released, but i like it. very squaky jazz with electronics underneath. i think coxon and wales created ambient/beat backing tracks and then the jazz musicians improvised over the top in the studio. personally my fave shj records are the previous two, disappeared and treader. VERY percussive and beat-driven but only occasionally jungle sounding. lots of great melodic elements speaking of melodic drum-n-bass, and returning the discussion to detroit, what do folks think of the new omni trio album, even angels cast shadows? producer rob haigh wears his detroit techno influences on his sleeve, and although he has yet to top his debut album, music for the next millennium (a.k.a. the deepest cut), his stuff's always worth picking up. my theory is that every other omni trio lp is a four-star affair, and this being his fifth, it's ace. much less sedate than the previous byte size life (even though that one had a track title that referenced detroit), it returns to the sinister edge of 1997's skeleton keys. anyone else here heard it? brian dillard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ram bunctions
I recently got the Fred LP under the name Fred Gianelli from the late '80s on I think Wax Trax ... don't remember where I found it, though it was online somewhere. There's also a set of Rosebud remixes on the same label. Both were on CD. The ambient CD Telepathic Romance on Sahko is pretty easy to find; I think I saw a copy at Amoeba in San Fran recently. I also found both volumes of Telepathic Wisdom, which together present a nice overview of the early to mid-90s Telepathic stuff, online. I just checked gemm.comm and there were copies of many of these releases listed. Someone should really snatch up the $10 used copies of the telepathic wisdom releases (last link below) if they're not already taken. http://www6.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE wild=rosebud http://www7.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201disp_ad_format_mode=0 artist=FRED http://www5.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE wild=telepathic+romance http://www6.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE wild=telepathic+wisdom Brian -Original Message- From: Fred Giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] ram bunctions Since most of my stuff is out of print these days, good luck searching. I don't have any copies for sale. Try www.RecordTime.com for old Telepathic backcatalogue. New fG remix of Stewart Walker track here: http://www.stewartwalker.com/music/music.html Telepathic regards, fRED -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com on 10/24/01 1:05 PM, Bulger, Tim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For that matter, where can one find _any_ Fred Gianelli productions under any guise? I'd be happy to extend my collection. :) -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] ram bunctions The Kooky Scientist a/k/a the Rodney Dangerfield of electronic music that rerminds me, does anyone know wich PLUS8 release was kooky scientist - ram bunctions ? And do you know any online store that has this records still in stock? Thanks, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] anti-technology
| -Original Message- | From: Christian Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 30 October 2001 19:47 | | If anyone managed to make | something decent with Rebirth, which I doubt... | | | well how about pacou's three 12s on DJAX-UP? not saying it's his | best work, but decent at least and nothing but rebirth. True - that was a bit of a daft sentence really. I'm pretty archaic, still step-programming away on a casio rz-1, so haven't used Rebirth all that much and didn't realise it actually had been used to make pretty good tracks. I ought to get out more :) Brendan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FA (ebay)
Mark Broom, Mr. Fingers, Subsonic v.1, Exos, Ishii, Reflection and other stuff which I *might* try and claim to be this listy - but I won't. It's a stretch. :-) No reserves. Thx. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems[EMAIL PROTECTED]sort=2page=1rows=25since=-1 seller id = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happy Hallowe'en. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Techno for funerals
Hadn't checked the 303 list for quite some time, but I had to answer to this one.. I made this list years ago and it hasn't changed since. In no particular order: Dave Angel - Airborne (Carl Craig's drums suck mix) Humanoid - Stakker Humanoid Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil (no techno, but it's gonna be played at my funeral) Joost -Original Message- From: Roland van Oorschot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:33 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Techno for funerals Oi! Which techno track do you want to be played at your funeral? My last wish would be: The Martian Model 500 - Search your Feelings (RedPlanet-4) R. (hey...just asking!) --- f:un[x]iun http://funxiun.2y.net Weblog, Webcam, Technomusic and more ... --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] alexander kowalski set ??
what was that url again ? Eilowski. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Now I've Heard It All
A song from Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Volume II was just playing in the background. I turned around and saw an insurance commercial with baseball players names on it. I wonder if he used Cubase to make that album, and what Eno thinks about it. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] christian varella remixes??
any one heard the christian varella remixes of Electric Deluxe? just curious as to how this sounds... jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] UR @ Lowlands
In august we went to see UR at the Lowlands festival, here in The Netherlands. We now have the pictures online at a completely rebuild TechnoTourist.org - http://technotourist.org/ Hope you like the pics! Here is a (long) direct link to the pictures as well - http://technotourist.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album08op=modloadname=Galleryfile=indexinclude=view_album.php Cheers, Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org http://www.TV-99-AD.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR @ Lowlands
Hans Wrote: In august we went to see UR at the Lowlands festival, here in The Netherlands. We now have the pictures online at a completely rebuild TechnoTourist.org - http://technotourist.org/ Hope you like the pics! Here is a (long) direct link to the pictures as well - http://technotourist.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album08op= modloadname=Galleryfile=indexinclude=view_album.php And of course pictures from the Groundzero 3 release party! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR @ Lowlands
Many Thanks for the photos,I think the unknown Mc is Mike Banks,any comments ? Mario from Seville ___ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR @ Lowlands
Yeah i got a comment: no comment :) Many Thanks for the photos,I think the unknown Mc is Mike Banks,any comments ? Mario from Seville -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: (313) Neo Oujia
any thoughts / reviews on the new Norken album? -Original Message- From: Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:53 PM To: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Neo Oujia *shotinthedark* ... http://www.neoouija.co.uk ? Anya - Original Message - From: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: [313] Neo Oujia I seem to have lost the URL for their website...anyone have this? MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] RE: (313) Neo Oujia
If we're talking Spring Themes, it's REALLY nice in the sense of this listy nice. *Very* melodic...it would fit right in with the sort of neo-Detroit lush stuff coming out on Delsin. Not as deep as some of the old Pickton stuff, but it conjures those images. IMHO it's a good step past what Lee has done under this guise - and I like Soul Static Bureau quite well, too. jeff At 10:30 AM 10/31/2001, M. Todd Smith wrote: New Norken LP? Where? Let me in on the secret.. C any thoughts / reviews on the new Norken album? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] UR @ Lowlands
Yeah i got a comment: no comment :) Many Thanks for the photos,I think the unknown Mc is Mike Banks,any comments ? Mario from Seville i think this behaviour make the artist be much more into pop culture then known artists. henrique - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] RE: (313) Neo Oujia
New Norken LP? Where? Let me in on the secret.. Cheers todd - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED]; M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:48 AM Subject: [313] RE: (313) Neo Oujia any thoughts / reviews on the new Norken album? -Original Message- From: Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:53 PM To: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Neo Oujia *shotinthedark* ... http://www.neoouija.co.uk ? Anya - Original Message - From: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: [313] Neo Oujia I seem to have lost the URL for their website...anyone have this? MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] technology vs. art
Regarding technology (no matter the level of intricacy), here's what my trumpet professor told me about musicianship. After listening to me labor painfully through a difficult passage in a piece of music, he would stop me (probably for the sake of his sensitive ears) and make me aware of the trumpet. While holding it up, turning it, and knocking on the bell, the man explained to me that the trumpet is merely a thing of brass, incapable of producing music without assistance (in this case, the air of a human's pursed and buzzing lips). The music is in your head, he stated, pointing to his noggin. If you can't hear it, and performed flawlessly, in your own mind, than you can't expect it to come out of the instrument. Maybe this will offer some much needed elucidation. Rusty _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR @ Lowlands
this is definately NOT mike banks, seeing as i have met him (oh, once upon a time) and his forehead didn't look like that. i got me one of them photographic memories. jeff -Original Message- From: allnight [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 5:22 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] UR @ Lowlands Yeah i got a comment: no comment :) Many Thanks for the photos,I think the unknown Mc is Mike Banks,any comments ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Felix da Housecat
Born in Detroit Raised in Chicago?? any one heard this? is it new?? so is it Detroit Techno, Chicago House, or Decago tech house? i need these answeres immediately? oh, and i believe it is on Clashback which should tell me something, but i can't quite put my finger on it... daftly confused for some reason jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] anti-technology
hooray for Radio Shack!! It kinda reminds me of my Basic DC class where i made a bell ring and a incandescent light bulb glow. if i could get a couple of buzzers and some more switches, i would have one hell of a light and music show. i could be on the MECCA tour!! regretfully cancelled jeff -Original Message- From: Ed Wong Hau Pepilu Tivrusky IV [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:37 AM To: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] anti-technology ||We could always go back to making our own equipment.. Then only highly skilled electronic engineers would be able ||to make music Actually, it's not that hard; with all the various kits on the market it's as simple as buying a soldering iron and following the printed directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Felix da Housecat
Born 1972, Chicago Illinois according to Allmusic... Gwendal -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:12 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Felix da Housecat Born in Detroit Raised in Chicago?? any one heard this? is it new?? so is it Detroit Techno, Chicago House, or Decago tech house? i need these answeres immediately? oh, and i believe it is on Clashback which should tell me something, but i can't quite put my finger on it... daftly confused for some reason jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Felix da Housecat
raised in chicago's affluent suburbs according to house: the rough guide. also mentions he co-produced phantasy girl with pierre. james www.jbucknell.com Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/31/2001 09:39:35 AM To: 'FC3 Richards' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: RE: [313] Felix da Housecat Born 1972, Chicago Illinois according to Allmusic... Gwendal -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:12 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Felix da Housecat Born in Detroit Raised in Chicago?? any one heard this? is it new?? so is it Detroit Techno, Chicago House, or Decago tech house? i need these answeres immediately? oh, and i believe it is on Clashback which should tell me something, but i can't quite put my finger on it... daftly confused for some reason jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] eno article
can someone please repost the link to this article. thanks, ken _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: (313) RE: (313) Neo Oujia
Spring themes check www.hydrogendukebox.com for more info. advance orders @ CDnow.com W -Original Message- From: M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:30 AM To: Detroits Finest List 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] RE: (313) Neo Oujia New Norken LP? Where? Let me in on the secret.. Cheers todd - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED]; M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:48 AM Subject: [313] RE: (313) Neo Oujia any thoughts / reviews on the new Norken album? -Original Message- From: Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:53 PM To: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Neo Oujia *shotinthedark* ... http://www.neoouija.co.uk ? Anya - Original Message - From: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: [313] Neo Oujia I seem to have lost the URL for their website...anyone have this? MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Eno is keen-o
someone should throw him onto the dancefloor while dj rolando is laying down the tracks. you can't judge dance music by listening to it. you have to let it move your body. james www.jbucknell.com Batory, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/30/2001 09:31:59 PM To: 'Phonopsia' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: '313' 313@hyperreal.org (bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: RE: [313] Eno is keen-o Yeah, I agree about Aenima. I was actually thinking someone should give him Monolake's Gobi: The Desert to listen to. BTW, the new Monolake album, Cinemascope, is awesome. Respect JasonB -- From: Phonopsia[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:15 PM To: Rusty Blasco; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Eno is keen-o I imagine he doesn't really have his finger on the pulse of the underground scene either. I'd be really surprised if he had the same comments about Aenima. That's as macro as I've heard, being a 60 minute song, and you can't even really discern that it *is* a song rather than a live set until you've heard it a number of times. Besides that, I think it's silly to blame the tools. Cubase/Logic are as designed for the macro as for the micro - it's just a matter of how much attention you pay to the details. Same with any hardware sequencers/arrangers. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] anti-technology
The spirit of the people is greater than man's technology. (Cleaver) Amen. On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Scotto wrote: all of the technology in the world will not give you any talent or an orignal idea. those are left up to the user,and that goes for any insturment new or old, owning a insturment will not make you musician. you still have to get out there and live it, make it happen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] technology vs. art
Ken Ishii flipped the on/off switch on his Korg repeatedly until it started making weird noises... then he used it that way to make Jelly Tones From: James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] technology vs. art Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:27:23 -0500 you're finding less imagination? 'acid trax' was made by pulling the baterries out of the 303 and slamming them back in quickly when they couldn't work out how to program it. james www.jbucknell.com laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/31/2001 01:19:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] technology vs. art In the very same mindset -Jimi Hendrix re-wired and re-thought how to record his music so he could get his guitar to sound like the music that was in his head. -Similarly the Detroit boyz took traditional gear and re-wired/re-thought it to develop the early tech soundz that kick-started (more or less) a musical revolution. Let's pose this as a question cuz I'm interested in peeps thoughts: A. Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate imagination or have the opposite effect...or both?? B. If bothhow then does one gage or distinguish true musicianship and talent from creativity/imagination/uniqueness in composition?? I know this is a chicken / egg paradoxical type question, but as an older soul I'm finding less imagination in the place of technological brilliancewho really counts more nowadays THE MAN or THE MACHINE I imagine that facile people will always make relatively facile music and conversely us weirdo complicated folks will forever push the envelope to express human ponderings and intricacies in ways that have heretofore never been expressed. What do you all tink??? From: Rusty Blasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] technology vs. art Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:32:36 -0500 Regarding technology (no matter the level of intricacy), here's what my trumpet professor told me about musicianship. After listening to me labor painfully through a difficult passage in a piece of music, he would stop me (probably for the sake of his sensitive ears) and make me aware of the trumpet. While holding it up, turning it, and knocking on the bell, the man explained to me that the trumpet is merely a thing of brass, incapable of producing music without assistance (in this case, the air of a human's pursed and buzzing lips). The music is in your head, he stated, pointing to his noggin. If you can't hear it, and performed flawlessly, in your own mind, than you can't expect it to come out of the instrument. Maybe this will offer some much needed elucidation. Rusty _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Is technology just a new invention?
Think about this. Technology is called technology because it is new, timely, and a lot of these arguements I've seen have been typical technology versus instrumentation...etc... The trumpet was technology when it was invented, no? As was the electric guitar, the pianoblah blah blah As was the typewriter, which is now seen as an antique. Wouldn't we then just think of these tools as instruments and new instruments like effects and synths and drum machines could easily in this fashion be considered both technology and Instruments. In thirty years we'll probably look back at drum machines and see them much like we look back at the electric guitar. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: James Bucknell Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:27 PM To: laura gavoor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] technology vs. art you're finding less imagination? 'acid trax' was made by pulling the baterries out of the 303 and slamming them back in quickly when they couldn't work out how to program it. james www.jbucknell.com laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/31/2001 01:19:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] technology vs. art In the very same mindset -Jimi Hendrix re-wired and re-thought how to record his music so he could get his guitar to sound like the music that was in his head. -Similarly the Detroit boyz took traditional gear and re-wired/re-thought it to develop the early tech soundz that kick-started (more or less) a musical revolution. Let's pose this as a question cuz I'm interested in peeps thoughts: A. Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate imagination or have the opposite effect...or both?? B. If bothhow then does one gage or distinguish true musicianship and talent from creativity/imagination/uniqueness in composition?? I know this is a chicken / egg paradoxical type question, but as an older soul I'm finding less imagination in the place of technological brilliancewho really counts more nowadays THE MAN or THE MACHINE I imagine that facile people will always make relatively facile music and conversely us weirdo complicated folks will forever push the envelope to express human ponderings and intricacies in ways that have heretofore never been expressed. What do you all tink??? From: Rusty Blasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] technology vs. art Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:32:36 -0500 Regarding technology (no matter the level of intricacy), here's what my trumpet professor told me about musicianship. After listening to me labor painfully through a difficult passage in a piece of music, he would stop me (probably for the sake of his sensitive ears) and make me aware of the trumpet. While holding it up, turning it, and knocking on the bell, the man explained to me that the trumpet is merely a thing of brass, incapable of producing music without assistance (in this case, the air of a human's pursed and buzzing lips). The music is in your head, he stated, pointing to his noggin. If you can't hear it, and performed flawlessly, in your own mind, than you can't expect it to come out of the instrument. Maybe this will offer some much needed elucidation. Rusty _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] technology vs. art
At 18:19 31/10/2001 +, laura gavoor wrote: Let's pose this as a question cuz I'm interested in peeps thoughts: A. Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate imagination or have the opposite effect...or both?? B. If bothhow then does one gage or distinguish true musicianship and talent from creativity/imagination/uniqueness in composition?? People had this same argument when word processors and then software on computers were coming into form. I don't see a sudden emergence of new Hemmingways, but I also don't see a dead spot in literature. It's just different tools with the times. -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ram bunctions
i got the rosebud remixes on e-bay a few months back. it is definately a record worth checking out, even though i don't have enough talent to mix it into anything. i still love it... jeff -Original Message- From: Brian Dillard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:34 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] ram bunctions I recently got the Fred LP under the name Fred Gianelli from the late '80s on I think Wax Trax ... don't remember where I found it, though it was online somewhere. There's also a set of Rosebud remixes on the same label. Both were on CD. The ambient CD Telepathic Romance on Sahko is pretty easy to find; I think I saw a copy at Amoeba in San Fran recently. I also found both volumes of Telepathic Wisdom, which together present a nice overview of the early to mid-90s Telepathic stuff, online. I just checked gemm.comm and there were copies of many of these releases listed. Someone should really snatch up the $10 used copies of the telepathic wisdom releases (last link below) if they're not already taken. http://www6.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201field=ARTIST+OR+TIT LE wild=rosebud http://www7.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201disp_ad_format_mode =0 artist=FRED http://www5.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201field=ARTIST+OR+TIT LE wild=telepathic+romance http://www6.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201field=ARTIST+OR+TIT LE wild=telepathic+wisdom Brian -Original Message- From: Fred Giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] ram bunctions Since most of my stuff is out of print these days, good luck searching. I don't have any copies for sale. Try www.RecordTime.com for old Telepathic backcatalogue. New fG remix of Stewart Walker track here: http://www.stewartwalker.com/music/music.html Telepathic regards, fRED -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com on 10/24/01 1:05 PM, Bulger, Tim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For that matter, where can one find _any_ Fred Gianelli productions under any guise? I'd be happy to extend my collection. :) -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] ram bunctions The Kooky Scientist a/k/a the Rodney Dangerfield of electronic music that rerminds me, does anyone know wich PLUS8 release was kooky scientist - ram bunctions ? And do you know any online store that has this records still in stock? Thanks, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] technology vs. art
| -Original Message- | From: laura gavoor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:19 PM | | A. Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate | imagination or have the opposite effect...or both?? Both, I reckon. The leap of imagination that was Acid Trax back in the day is much easier for people to achieve now. Some would say that elevating recording technology cheapens that sort of imagination, but it actually doesn't - it just raises the stakes. Easier to express imagination at a more basic or easy level, but harder to produce something so imaginative it stands out from the burgeoning crowd of Pierre-clones... | B. If bothhow then does one gage or distinguish true | musicianship and talent from creativity/imagination/ | uniqueness in composition?? Musicianship is a bit of an odd term; a lot of the music discussed on this list isn't the product of musicianship as such, more the creativity/imagination/uniqueness you mention. People who are skilled at musicianship will be as easy to spot as always, but (and I might be being a bit heretical here) the role of the pure musician (ie, no composing, just playing) will continue to become more like that of the calligrapher today. On the other hand, new forms of musicianship come with new instruments. Turntablists, for example, or the way some producers can rock a 303 live on stage while others can't. Bernie Worrell and Marvin Gaye's synth playing, working on the sound at the same time as on the melody. I can imagine some amazing futuristic instruments which could usher in a new age for musicianship... But you're right, boring people will continue to make boring music, weird people will go on making weird stuff, and so on... the cycle of life continues... and no old technology ever gets uninvented (apart from Body Rap...). Brendan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] calr craig dj-set
from http://www.rushhour.nl Carl Craig dj-set in real audio. Dj sets from Carl Craig @ Zuidas!!! - 2001-10-31 by Antal 29/04/2001 - Carl Craig played a 6+ hrs djset @ Zuidas. He gave us his permission to broadcast the tapes (ehm.. mini discs) recorded that day. We have already the two first of six hours for you listenable in streaming real audio3!!! go and listen. http://www.rushhour.nl/broad.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] technology vs. art
In the very same mindset -Jimi Hendrix re-wired and re-thought how to record his music so he could get his guitar to sound like the music that was in his head. -Similarly the Detroit boyz took traditional gear and re-wired/re-thought it to develop the early tech soundz that kick-started (more or less) a musical revolution. Let's pose this as a question cuz I'm interested in peeps thoughts: A. Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate imagination or have the opposite effect...or both?? B. If bothhow then does one gage or distinguish true musicianship and talent from creativity/imagination/uniqueness in composition?? I know this is a chicken / egg paradoxical type question, but as an older soul I'm finding less imagination in the place of technological brilliancewho really counts more nowadays THE MAN or THE MACHINE I imagine that facile people will always make relatively facile music and conversely us weirdo complicated folks will forever push the envelope to express human ponderings and intricacies in ways that have heretofore never been expressed. What do you all tink??? From: Rusty Blasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] technology vs. art Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:32:36 -0500 Regarding technology (no matter the level of intricacy), here's what my trumpet professor told me about musicianship. After listening to me labor painfully through a difficult passage in a piece of music, he would stop me (probably for the sake of his sensitive ears) and make me aware of the trumpet. While holding it up, turning it, and knocking on the bell, the man explained to me that the trumpet is merely a thing of brass, incapable of producing music without assistance (in this case, the air of a human's pursed and buzzing lips). The music is in your head, he stated, pointing to his noggin. If you can't hear it, and performed flawlessly, in your own mind, than you can't expect it to come out of the instrument. Maybe this will offer some much needed elucidation. Rusty _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] :::MODERN METHODS:::11/03/2001:::TORONTO CANADA:::
On Saturday, November 3rd the collective behind a/s systems and mediawhore bring you MODERN METHODS, a 2 room event showcasing some of the artists appearing on a/s systems' forthcoming modern methods records (assr007 and assr008). This event will be at the i.v lounge (326 Dundas Street West-across from the AGO). Doors open at 10PM. $4 at the door. 19 + arrive early to ensure entry. free food. no list. http://www.as-systems.cc/mailouts/modernmethodsevent.htm special guests for the night: granny'ark - live [vancouver] bryce walker [niice, saturn tech] representing the collective: naw - live non pareil - live [his a/s systems premiere!] coded kurt lewis maze As a smaller location, the i.v. lounge will be gutted to ensure there's room to dance. Bring your record bags, as on-site you'll find an assortment of a/s systems vinyl ($5), audio CDs ($3), and CD-roms ($3). One of the charter members of the roundtable distribution family, a/s systems has released some of Toronto's most original, groundbreaking underground music. A label of firsts, a/s systems is where artists like induced, naw, Robert Ven, and Pash Jameson were introduced to dance/dj community in vinyl format. The label also released the first lacquer master made by Kevin Park at local mastering facility Scratch Free Press. Along with it's seminal trademarks, like induced's motion (with vocalist Martina Cahill), a/s systems has released the city's most critically acclaimed techno, with Aris' sequence 25:sage and object:FINE by induced. a/s systems releases content published through it's sister agency, mediawhore. mediawhore is a content design, publishing and licensing entity specializing in analog and digital art in a variety of formats. Photography, live/dj sets, original artwork, interactive media, techno, house, and other music formats are all part of mediawhores converged focus: modern methods of availability for exciting, high quality content. CONTACT US: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.as-systems.cc artist bios follow: __ granny'ark:::LIVE::: Michelle Irving received her BFA from the Nova Scotia College of Art and Design where she focused on audio, video and installation. Michelle has been DJing for four years holding down residencies at Cafe Mokka, Halifax, NS, and Clove, Vancouver, BC. She has been creating live PA performances since April 2001 and performed inheritance' at the Signal and Noise Contemporary Media Festival, Video IN, Vancouver, BC. Michelle also performed at after sundown at the Sissy Boys and Foul-mouthed women performance series curated by Shawna Dempsey through YYZ. This year Michelle was the first woman in Canada to compete in the Canadian eliminations of the DMC turntablist championships. While most of her most experience is as a DJ her electronic music production is aided by over 10 years of training in classical piano. naw:::LIVE::: Neil Wiernik is a multimedia visual artist turned electronic music composer. Neil first found him self creating electronic music as early as 1988. Through his very first production Neil garnished the nickname of audio contortionist by his peers. Neil has always pushed the boundaries of his musical form - from designing new or manipulating existing sound making devices or software to creative uses of production environments and sound sources. His composition and production styles are as divers as his tools he employs to craft his sounds, but he keeps a central focus throughout all his production which is a trademarked use of rich, thick, lush textures and rhythms. Before settling into his current solo project: naw, Neil has had a long history of both group and solo electronic music projects including work with The Crystal Methodists (Goy Division Recordings), Phycus (Total Zero), and The Urban Refuse Group (Total Zero). In terms of solo work, Neil has released music under his given name and under pseudonym of naw on such labels as: Avatar/Ohm, RRR, Mutant Cactus Recording and most recently on a/s systems. Neil's recent work is a hybrid of minimal techno, dark ambient, dub, and other experimental music's. Under his alias naw, Neil has played along side such international artists as: Jake Mandell, Stewart Walker, Unit, Phoenecia, Theorem, Sutekh, Monolake, Kit Clayton, Kero, Tomas Jirku, David Kristian and Rechenzentrum. LOOK FOR NAW'S SECOND VINYL RELEASE ON ASSR007: MODERN METHODS VOLUME 1. non pareil:::LIVE::: BDavey is an electronic force to be reckoned with. With his minimal techno beats and electro funk undertones he creates a sonic soundscape that keeps the intelligent techno community in awe. Having been in and around the Toronto electronic music scene since its inception, this striving young artist has spent many long years perfecting his sound. As a new artist on our roster, this will be non pareil's first performance for a/s systems. LOOK FOR NON PAREIL'S FIRST VINYL RELEASE ON
[313] ! Armchair DJ Review - Techno Unit 32: Misc. Tracks + interview excerpt!
! Armchair DJ Review - Techno Unit 32: Misc. Tracks ! Larry Kucharz CD, International Audiochrome, USA, 2001 On Audiochrome, his previous foray into electronic dance-music structures, modern classical musician Larry Kucharz stuck closely to a purist techno blueprint, both exploiting and corrupting the original Detroit ideal. On Techno Unit 32: Misc. Tracks, the New York-based composer-turned-producer dabbles in a wider range of dance-derived styles, creating an album whose variety and tempos prove daunting but whose best tracks marry steely intellect to spartan beauty. On the first half of Misc. Tracks, Kucharz tries his hand at everything from jungle to classical progressive, a somewhat tongue-in-cheek new genre name he coined to describe some of his experiments in fast-paced tonal assault. There's nothing here as brutal as, say, the Aphex Twin at his most extreme, but the unfamiliarity of Kucharz's sonic palette may well prove disorienting. On some of his earlier, non-dance compositions, Kucharz played with rapid pulses whose noisiness was challenging; here, though, on tracks such as U310, drum-machine beats provides a rhythmic framework for uncompromising textures. Although it's labelled techno, U955 is actually closer to hardcore, and when its furious oscillations drop away to reveal a static piano motif, the result is a moment whose beauty lies in its very brevity. At less than four minutes, U969 is probably one of the shortest drum bass tracks ever recorded, but its subsonic beat trickery falls somewhere between avant-junglists Spring Heel Jack and electro enigmas Drexciya. The prickly, oscillating U313 may carry a coincidental reference to Detroit's area code in its title, but it's U311, the seventh track, that marks Kucharz's return to the ominous Motor City linearity of the Audiochrome LP. From there on out, Misc. Tracks settles into less busy rhythms, from the metallic acceleration of U311 to the elegant kraut thump of U922. The last three tracks are the most beautiful, and also the longest: U350, an eight-minute collision of classic house piano vamps and 3/4 time; U921, a lengthy excursion into dubby atmosphere and tonal counterpoint; and the 14-minute murk of U333, where melodic whorls and muted percussion flash by in patches, surrounded by aural fog. Although its first several tracks may mark Techno Unit 32 a difficult listen, Kucharz rewards patient audiences with dreamy accessibility later on. Write to: International Audiochrome, Box 1068, Rye, NY 10580. Brian J. Dillard Armchair DJ http://www.armchair-dj.com - available from cdstreet.com http://www.cdstreet.com/artists/internationalaudiochromeinc -- Armchair DJ Interview “CLASSICAL TO TECHNO TO CLASSICAL” Larry Kucharz interviewed by Brian J. Dillard “ ...After I complete a major project, like a CD, I sometimes reflect about the things I've done, as opposed to the things I'm supposed to be doing. One of the things that's different about my stuff is the sound. Club music rules state that you have to clear out the bottom. EQ Code Section 1035 (a) (1): Get rid of anything below 100 Hz for the kick sound. Problem is, I usually have lots of very busy stuff going on in that sonic area and just above it. (There are tracks in Audiochrome that have six parts.) This gives it a muddy quality at times. Maybe what I'm after is a texture and I just don't know it yet. Of course, having that many things going on down there breaks another rule: Club Production Code Section 3089 (c) (3): Only have one bass at a time. If you have another bass line - fade one in and the other out. I don't fade in and out; I want the counterpoint. ...” complete interview at: http://www.armchair-dj.com/handler.asp?/features/interviews/larry_kucharz.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] london this weekend?
hi, coming to hemel hempstead for the weekend+, and would like to know if there are something worth attending in london jens - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FinalScratch package price
This is from an email directly from n2it that I got about FinalScratch... this version is $2,999.00 so that little Spin feature on DJ equipment was correct (if you buy this verison). Check the added feature that Richie and John have added to the package. MEK As part of this limited iiPROFSlo we will offer a completely congured, ready-to-use and ready-to-go system that consists of the following components: + FINALSCRATCH software package + ScratchAmp signal processor + Three FINALSCRATCH records + Two FINALSCRATCH slipmats + Audio and USB cables + Installation and User's Manual + Sony Vaio or similar laptop loaded with a dual boot system of BeOS and Windows + After sales service, maintenance and e-mail support FINALSCRATCH will come already loaded and ready to play with selected tracks from the catalogue of Plus 8 and Denitive Records. You can then just load and `rip' your own music les and go from there. The price for the complete PROFS is USD 2,999.00 excluding shipping, handling and taxes. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] i'm back
hi everyone. just wanted to let everyone know i'm back online after almost 2 months. i no longer work at record time, so my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address is no longer valid. my apologies to anyone who has tried to contact me. i am catching up on all my correspondence and rebuilding my address book, so send me a message! ani :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is technology just a new invention?
they are scarred because they dont want to be put out of business. producer x has to carry tons of gear and it cost more to book him because of that, but producer y, uses a laptop and some out board efx that fit in to a suitcase. they are both equally popular who will get booked more? plus they took the time to figure out how to do it the old fashioned way and they are a little jeolus that it is now easier. scott ps god bless les paul (one of) the inventer(s) of the electric guitar, reverb machines, echo units, multi track recording, and many studio technecs involved in multi track recording. techno = technology. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] technology vs. art
you're finding less imagination? 'acid trax' was made by pulling the baterries out of the 303 and slamming them back in quickly when they couldn't work out how to program it. james www.jbucknell.com laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/31/2001 01:19:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: Re: [313] technology vs. art In the very same mindset -Jimi Hendrix re-wired and re-thought how to record his music so he could get his guitar to sound like the music that was in his head. -Similarly the Detroit boyz took traditional gear and re-wired/re-thought it to develop the early tech soundz that kick-started (more or less) a musical revolution. Let's pose this as a question cuz I'm interested in peeps thoughts: A. Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate imagination or have the opposite effect...or both?? B. If bothhow then does one gage or distinguish true musicianship and talent from creativity/imagination/uniqueness in composition?? I know this is a chicken / egg paradoxical type question, but as an older soul I'm finding less imagination in the place of technological brilliancewho really counts more nowadays THE MAN or THE MACHINE I imagine that facile people will always make relatively facile music and conversely us weirdo complicated folks will forever push the envelope to express human ponderings and intricacies in ways that have heretofore never been expressed. What do you all tink??? From: Rusty Blasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] technology vs. art Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:32:36 -0500 Regarding technology (no matter the level of intricacy), here's what my trumpet professor told me about musicianship. After listening to me labor painfully through a difficult passage in a piece of music, he would stop me (probably for the sake of his sensitive ears) and make me aware of the trumpet. While holding it up, turning it, and knocking on the bell, the man explained to me that the trumpet is merely a thing of brass, incapable of producing music without assistance (in this case, the air of a human's pursed and buzzing lips). The music is in your head, he stated, pointing to his noggin. If you can't hear it, and performed flawlessly, in your own mind, than you can't expect it to come out of the instrument. Maybe this will offer some much needed elucidation. Rusty _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] technology vs. art
A. Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate imagination or have the opposite effect...or both?? time is the ultimate deciding factor...i'm sure when groups like tangerine dream started using these machines it sounded like degeneration, but then again you have a resurgence of this ambient style in the early 90's which sounds like a degeneration from what they produced...what we see so far is that the production values have increased, but the content lacks originality...it takes a long time to develop your talent at making your music sound like it does in your head...and it's going to get harder because it takes a great deal more knowledge to know what your'e dealing with inside all this new technology...at some point though...a wunderkind will emerge...then everyone will imitate that for a while... B. If bothhow then does one gage or distinguish true musicianship and talent from creativity/imagination/uniqueness in composition?? it's rare that you have all of these qualities rolled up into one...i mean no one like jimi has come around in a long time...prince is a good guitar player, but he's no hendrix...but some of his early compositions are very unique though...anyway, i just hope that people are still looking for any of these qualities over time as opposed to how it looks like it's goingthat is image and sales is all that matters until the machine starts operating on it's own the man is still the most important...i think the lack of creativity is a product of our society...we're over saturated...we've burned our selves out... simply b - Original Message - From: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [313] technology vs. art In the very same mindset -Jimi Hendrix re-wired and re-thought how to record his music so he could get his guitar to sound like the music that was in his head. -Similarly the Detroit boyz took traditional gear and re-wired/re-thought it to develop the early tech soundz that kick-started (more or less) a musical revolution. Let's pose this as a question cuz I'm interested in peeps thoughts: A. Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate imagination or have the opposite effect...or both?? B. If bothhow then does one gage or distinguish true musicianship and talent from creativity/imagination/uniqueness in composition?? I know this is a chicken / egg paradoxical type question, but as an older soul I'm finding less imagination in the place of technological brilliancewho really counts more nowadays THE MAN or THE MACHINE I imagine that facile people will always make relatively facile music and conversely us weirdo complicated folks will forever push the envelope to express human ponderings and intricacies in ways that have heretofore never been expressed. What do you all tink??? From: Rusty Blasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] technology vs. art Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:32:36 -0500 Regarding technology (no matter the level of intricacy), here's what my trumpet professor told me about musicianship. After listening to me labor painfully through a difficult passage in a piece of music, he would stop me (probably for the sake of his sensitive ears) and make me aware of the trumpet. While holding it up, turning it, and knocking on the bell, the man explained to me that the trumpet is merely a thing of brass, incapable of producing music without assistance (in this case, the air of a human's pursed and buzzing lips). The music is in your head, he stated, pointing to his noggin. If you can't hear it, and performed flawlessly, in your own mind, than you can't expect it to come out of the instrument. Maybe this will offer some much needed elucidation. Rusty _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [313] RE: (313) Neo Oujia
I have the single, one of the tracks, I believe 'south' are somehting similar is off an old Reel record he did. Not as good as his one on Delsin though. I still want to hear the LP though, what label is it on? Cheers todd - Original Message - From: Jwan Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:23 AM Subject: Re: Re: [313] RE: (313) Neo Oujia I haven't heard the album yet. But i picked up the first single east 2 weeks ago. hands down on fo the best records i've purchased all year. can't wait to hear the rest of the album. Jwan Allen Technoir Records [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.technoiraudio.com (412) 681-1398 Free Game Guides! Complete walkthrus, secrets, hints and tips exclusively from IGN.com Play better today at http://guides.ign.com ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] fuel to the fire : was hawtin hawtin everywhere
They already have this.. Its called max/msp http://www.cycling74.com/index.html on 10/24/01 8:55 PM, Mike Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the one question you are not address is how much control does a performer have over their music as an indicator of liveness. I think 4 guys with guitars and each one of them randomly naming a genre and a key to play before they improvise the music in is a lot more live than say a guy with a song-based sequencer pressing play. It is not a paradigm shift, it is common sense. The more random chance/spontainious decision making can play a role in your performance the more live you are. I think there is something innately more live about a jazz trio improvising on a standard than there is in a guy pressing play on a DAT, or the sequencer equivalent. It is not rockist predjudice, it is just a common sense bench-mark for all musicians. Playback is always less live than perfomance, and as electronic musicians dealing with midi and sequenced audio we are somewhere between being truly live and being playback, depending on the interface a performer chooses to use. I have always said that I would rather hear a bunk live act with good songs, than somebody playing live who doesnt have songs. And as for delivery, it is just a matter of principle. If you are claiming that you are live, and you aren't, you are going to be called out. The future of this music is not DJ's, it is post-techno perfomance. I am going to go as far to say that in 10-15 years techno is finally going to become the future jazz that it has been promising for years now. The real future of this music is in played, customizable, interactive music interfaces. Rather than playing a midi sax, or a keyboard to control synths, the future will be controller interfaces that are hardware and software customizable that act as both controllers and sequencers. A live act will include 2-4 people improvising with non-standard electronic instruments jamming with some kind of computer based AI music system. Instead of buying new synths every couple years, you are going to program a new interface on your control hardware. Instead of playing back pre-recorded sound or note information, the music will be written and manipulated on the spot. Alan Kurzweil(formerly of Kurzweil Music Systems, inventor of the K250) has some very interesting insights into the future of music and creativity in general. If you are interested in ideas about possible futures in electronic music, his last book The Age Of Spiritual Machines is an excellent read. Sorry for yet another rant. Take care, Mike From: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: RE: [313] fuel to the fire : was hawtin hawtin everywhere Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:06:38 + That's my point, the reason a lot of electronic music producers do lives is because people are used to go see live artists, and they expect performing skills. People, in general, also expect the 'look' of someone performing (ie. strumming the strings of a guitar, pressing down on the keys of a synth, etc)... it's just a shift in the paradigm that is required. The performers have made it (by using laptops and such), it's time the audiences make it. But they are always going to be slower than the performers in making the switch (or even giving up their expectations of what live means). If a performer is using a keyboard to play over some prearranged track are they playing live anymore? If they spin a record in their live set are they a DJ or a live performer? Do you like the music? Then what the f~ck does it matter how they go about bringing it to you. Change your paradigm and your ass will follow. MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
