Re: [313] may's djing

2002-02-27 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I don't know about elsewhere but encores are traditional in Australia. It 
gives people the chance to give props to the DJ. If there's no screaming for
encores, it's seen as a diss to the DJ. Jeff Mills, Derrick, Stacey, all
have done them. And lo behold local DJs coming on after who don't give the
DJ a chance to do them. Then it's ice grill time. People leave.

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:41 PM


To me the point of having a DJ is having someone create something over a
matter of hours. So playing one record over the monitors seems a
particularly bizarre way of doing an encore...

 He'd been playing overtime from what I remember. The security in the place
 turned off the sound system. The monitor was all that was running. Nobody
 wanted to go home.

 That was a seriously AWESOME night. Probably one of the best nights of my
 life. I doubt I'll ever experience anyting like that ever again.

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RE: [313] may's djing

2002-02-27 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
I've seen DJs play overtime before, but an encore seems a bit bizarre to me 
considering that what a good DJ does can't be done in the few minutes an 
encore usually gets.


At 12:41 PM 2/27/02 +1100, David Gillies wrote:

To me the point of having a DJ is having someone create something over a
matter of hours. So playing one record over the monitors seems a
particularly bizarre way of doing an encore...


He'd been playing overtime from what I remember. The security in the place 
turned off the sound system. The monitor was all that was running. Nobody 
wanted to go home.


That was a seriously AWESOME night. Probably one of the best nights of my 
life. I doubt I'll ever experience anyting like that ever again.


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RE: [313] may's djing

2002-02-27 Thread David Gillies

I've seen DJs play overtime before, but an encore seems a bit bizarre to me
considering that what a good DJ does can't be done in the few minutes an
encore usually gets.


Maybe encore is the wrong word. It was more like people wouldn't leave, just 
kept dancing, so he just kept playing. Security cut the sound. People still 
wouldn't leave, they wanted more


It was that good a night people just wanted to keep dancing. He'd weaved his 
magic over the last 4 or 5 hours or whatever it was, and people were still 
entranced.


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Re: [313] may's djing

2002-02-27 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in the US, except for the Jeff 
Mills Liquid Room CD which I also thought was bizarre. The closest I've 
ever come was Doc Martin at Twilo sometime in 95 (right after it turned 
from the Sound Factory). They kept trying to turn on the lights and turn 
off the system and every time they did it he would throw on an even better 
record and everyone would start dancing and they'd turn the lights off for 
another 10 minutes or so.


But I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in this country at least. As 
I said in a previous email it seems very bizarre to me since it takes a 
good DJ hours to do anything worth listening to and I don't see how that 
can be replicated in a few minutes in an encore.


I don't find the idea of a crowd wanting a DJ to continue strange - that 
was happened lots of times - but I find that people generally get annoyed 
if the music stops playing so that the DJ can bask in the glow of the crowd 
or the MC is announcing the DJs or anything like that.


So here I think people would get more annoyed if a DJ stopped playing to 
wait for the crowd to ask them for an encore than if a local DJ kept the 
music going.


Just something I found a bit strange.

Eric

At 12:40 PM 2/27/02 +1100, Cyclone Wehner wrote:

I don't know about elsewhere but encores are traditional in Australia. It
gives people the chance to give props to the DJ. If there's no screaming for
encores, it's seen as a diss to the DJ. Jeff Mills, Derrick, Stacey, all
have done them. And lo behold local DJs coming on after who don't give the
DJ a chance to do them. Then it's ice grill time. People leave.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] may's djing
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:41 PM


To me the point of having a DJ is having someone create something over a
matter of hours. So playing one record over the monitors seems a
particularly bizarre way of doing an encore...

 He'd been playing overtime from what I remember. The security in the place
 turned off the sound system. The monitor was all that was running. Nobody
 wanted to go home.

 That was a seriously AWESOME night. Probably one of the best nights of my
 life. I doubt I'll ever experience anyting like that ever again.

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Re: [313] may's djing

2002-02-27 Thread Trevor Wilkes
Rob Hood in Toronto back in '98lights on still playing, he wouldn't
leave no matter what was said..just kept playingneedless to say...SWEET

Trevor Wilkes
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From: Eric Scuccimarra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [313] may's djing


 I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in the US, except for the Jeff
 Mills Liquid Room CD which I also thought was bizarre. The closest I've
 ever come was Doc Martin at Twilo sometime in 95 (right after it turned
 from the Sound Factory). They kept trying to turn on the lights and turn
 off the system and every time they did it he would throw on an even better
 record and everyone would start dancing and they'd turn the lights off for
 another 10 minutes or so.

 But I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in this country at least.
As
 I said in a previous email it seems very bizarre to me since it takes a
 good DJ hours to do anything worth listening to and I don't see how that
 can be replicated in a few minutes in an encore.

 I don't find the idea of a crowd wanting a DJ to continue strange - that
 was happened lots of times - but I find that people generally get annoyed
 if the music stops playing so that the DJ can bask in the glow of the
crowd
 or the MC is announcing the DJs or anything like that.

 So here I think people would get more annoyed if a DJ stopped playing to
 wait for the crowd to ask them for an encore than if a local DJ kept the
 music going.

 Just something I found a bit strange.

 Eric

 At 12:40 PM 2/27/02 +1100, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
 I don't know about elsewhere but encores are traditional in Australia. It
 gives people the chance to give props to the DJ. If there's no screaming
for
 encores, it's seen as a diss to the DJ. Jeff Mills, Derrick, Stacey, all
 have done them. And lo behold local DJs coming on after who don't give
the
 DJ a chance to do them. Then it's ice grill time. People leave.
 
 --
  From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: [313] may's djing
  Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:41 PM
  
 
  To me the point of having a DJ is having someone create something over
a
  matter of hours. So playing one record over the monitors seems a
  particularly bizarre way of doing an encore...
  
   He'd been playing overtime from what I remember. The security in the
place
   turned off the sound system. The monitor was all that was running.
Nobody
   wanted to go home.
  
   That was a seriously AWESOME night. Probably one of the best nights of
my
   life. I doubt I'll ever experience anyting like that ever again.
  
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Re: [313] may's djing

2002-02-27 Thread Cyclone Wehner
What they normally do is pull out a quirky record, or a favourite, something
special - this is what I notice Derrick does. Stacey pulled out a drum 'n'
bass record once, he dug real deep to find it. These were at the Innovator
parties here and the promoter Richard M always instructed his staff to let
the DJ go over if he wanted to and to allow them do an encore. It's a
symbolic thing and it's a nice gesture - DJ etiquette!. It's in the context
of the night. In text it may sound strange.  It's not as naff as below, it's
like the music stops, people holla, 'one more, one more' and the DJ finally
relents and maybe plays a track or mixes for a few more minutes, this way
the crowd thanks the DJ and the DJ thanks the crowd, it's about the love,
man! It's often spontaneous and fits in with the mood of the night -
especially when you consider at the end of a 3 hour set the loyal kids are
remaining. I guess it depends on how you view the DJ - as a performer/shaman
or just some MF playing records.



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From: Eric Scuccimarra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit
313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] may's djing
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:55 PM


 I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in the US, except for the Jeff
 Mills Liquid Room CD which I also thought was bizarre. The closest I've
 ever come was Doc Martin at Twilo sometime in 95 (right after it turned
 from the Sound Factory). They kept trying to turn on the lights and turn
 off the system and every time they did it he would throw on an even better
 record and everyone would start dancing and they'd turn the lights off for
 another 10 minutes or so.

 But I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in this country at least. As
 I said in a previous email it seems very bizarre to me since it takes a
 good DJ hours to do anything worth listening to and I don't see how that
 can be replicated in a few minutes in an encore.

 I don't find the idea of a crowd wanting a DJ to continue strange - that
 was happened lots of times - but I find that people generally get annoyed
 if the music stops playing so that the DJ can bask in the glow of the crowd
 or the MC is announcing the DJs or anything like that.

 So here I think people would get more annoyed if a DJ stopped playing to
 wait for the crowd to ask them for an encore than if a local DJ kept the
 music going.

 Just something I found a bit strange.

 Eric

 At 12:40 PM 2/27/02 +1100, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
I don't know about elsewhere but encores are traditional in Australia. It
gives people the chance to give props to the DJ. If there's no screaming for
encores, it's seen as a diss to the DJ. Jeff Mills, Derrick, Stacey, all
have done them. And lo behold local DJs coming on after who don't give the
DJ a chance to do them. Then it's ice grill time. People leave.

--
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] may's djing
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:41 PM
 

 To me the point of having a DJ is having someone create something over a
 matter of hours. So playing one record over the monitors seems a
 particularly bizarre way of doing an encore...
 
  He'd been playing overtime from what I remember. The security in the place
  turned off the sound system. The monitor was all that was running. Nobody
  wanted to go home.
 
  That was a seriously AWESOME night. Probably one of the best nights of my
  life. I doubt I'll ever experience anyting like that ever again.
 
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Re: RE: [313] may's djing (was Lost - further details)

2002-02-27 Thread Catherine Eberhardt
IMO You people are crazy.  I live in Detroit and most any time I hear him spin 
or see him he's a total ass.  I am not much for his DJing, maybe he just likes 
to be wasted when he DJs Detroit.  

 allnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/02 09:24 AM 
man i dont just respect him. in fact i never meet anyone who feels
the way i do about his tracks. he is by far my bigest influence in
producing as well. it would be a dream to me if i could only see him.
but i really dont like some styles of eletronic music. at the same
time that good techno is maybe the most important thing in my life,
dancing tribal techousy is something that i just cant stand. but u
bet i respect derrick may or anyother famous dj who spin for living.
if i had the oportunity of live by spining records i would also play
all the christian smith discography.
 but i think im free to say that i dont like tribal techouse.
whatever.. i stil have my hope of seeing the man spin and listen to
something like Icon or Ilusion.

 take care u all.
love
henrique
 Good??? and commercial?

 well everyone has their off days, I am sure you do too..so lets be
kind to
 all
 those who do mix as , well we all have off days..

 Well I have had the pleasure and he plays three decks like a
wizard..
 great choice of music and styles, very good all round three deck
mixer...

 So yeah he is more than good, but then that's my opinion..


 -Original Message-
 From: allnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 February 2002 13:10
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] may's djing (was Lost - further details)



 you people mean that derrick may's djing is good? man that would
make
 me happy, since i'm a gigant fan of his work.. the mixed sets i
could
 check out of him were anything but good.. but who knows.. maybe in
 detroit his sets can sound from a detroit artist. the last mix i
 heard from him was depressing. even M4J (a pop eletronic band from
 brazil, leaded by dj MauMau whos totaly comercial) appear in that
 mixed set.

 any coments about his djing in detroit?

  -- Mensagem original ---
 
  De  : John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Para: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED],313
 313@hyperreal.org
  Cc  :
  Data: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:57:40 -0500
  Assunto : RE: [313] Lost - further details
 
  Oooh, at least one 734 313'er will be in England round then --
I'm
 leaving
  Detroit on March 28 and getting back April 10 (though, granted, I
 did just
  see Derrick last month).  If there are any other intriguing shows
 happening
  anywhere in England around these dates, I'd love to hear about
 them
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:37 AM
   To: 313
   Subject: [313] Lost - further details
  
  
   Juan Atkins  Derrick May
  
   Sun 31 March
  
   no venue as of yet
  
 
 
 

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Re: [313] may's djing

2002-02-27 Thread Jason Brunton
 I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in the US, except for the Jeff
 Mills Liquid Room CD which I also thought was bizarre. The closest I've
 ever come was Doc Martin at Twilo sometime in 95 (right after it turned
 from the Sound Factory). They kept trying to turn on the lights and turn
 off the system and every time they did it he would throw on an even better
 record and everyone would start dancing and they'd turn the lights off for
 another 10 minutes or so.
 
Orlando Voorn got a (well deserved) standing ovation- well actually there
were a lot of people falling about but I've never heard of a falling
ovation- when he played in Glasgow last June

Jason Brunton


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RE: [313] (was) may's djing -now encore's

2002-02-27 Thread Odeluga, Ken
(I only ever give mho btw - before u strike up those flamethrowers!) The
missed point here, possibly because of cultural differences is that an
encore (and I'm only talking about Europe) has got very little to do with a
dj being taken by surprise at the strength of feeling he's created - if s/he
is any good at all, an encore is a thing which the spinner expects and an
on-time finish is as sure a non-verbal 'did u like it?' as the actual
question itself asked over talkover - now that WOULD be strange!

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From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:56 AM
To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: [313] may's djing


I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in the US, except for the Jeff
Mills Liquid Room CD which I also thought was bizarre. The closest I've
ever come was Doc Martin at Twilo sometime in 95 (right after it turned
from the Sound Factory). They kept trying to turn on the lights and turn
off the system and every time they did it he would throw on an even better
record and everyone would start dancing and they'd turn the lights off for
another 10 minutes or so.

But I've never heard of a DJ getting an encore in this country at
least. As
I said in a previous email it seems very bizarre to me since it takes a
good DJ hours to do anything worth listening to and I don't see how that
can be replicated in a few minutes in an encore.

I don't find the idea of a crowd wanting a DJ to continue strange - that
was happened lots of times - but I find that people generally get annoyed
if the music stops playing so that the DJ can bask in the glow of
the crowd
or the MC is announcing the DJs or anything like that.

So here I think people would get more annoyed if a DJ stopped playing to
wait for the crowd to ask them for an encore than if a local DJ kept the
music going.

Just something I found a bit strange.

Eric

At 12:40 PM 2/27/02 +1100, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
I don't know about elsewhere but encores are traditional in Australia. It
gives people the chance to give props to the DJ. If there's no
screaming for
encores, it's seen as a diss to the DJ. Jeff Mills, Derrick, Stacey, all
have done them. And lo behold local DJs coming on after who don't give the
DJ a chance to do them. Then it's ice grill time. People leave.

--
 From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] may's djing
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:41 PM
 

 To me the point of having a DJ is having someone create
something over a
 matter of hours. So playing one record over the monitors seems a
 particularly bizarre way of doing an encore...
 
  He'd been playing overtime from what I remember. The security
in the place
  turned off the sound system. The monitor was all that was
running. Nobody
  wanted to go home.
 
  That was a seriously AWESOME night. Probably one of the best
nights of my
  life. I doubt I'll ever experience anyting like that ever again.
 
  _
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RE: [313] Back To May's djing - uncut opinions

2002-02-27 Thread Odeluga, Ken
An elaboration on 'total ass' would be helpful - it's quite hard to be a
TOTAL ass in a DJ booth, there's really not much to do but play! Plus your
experiences of him being 'wasted when he DJs Detroit' I eagerly await.

-Original Message-
From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:07 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: RE: [313] may's djing (was Lost - further details)


IMO You people are crazy.  I live in Detroit and most any time I
hear him spin or see him he's a total ass.  I am not much for his
DJing, maybe he just likes to be wasted when he DJs Detroit.

 allnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/02 09:24 AM 
man i dont just respect him. in fact i never meet anyone who feels
the way i do about his tracks. he is by far my bigest influence in
producing as well. it would be a dream to me if i could only see him.
but i really dont like some styles of eletronic music. at the same
time that good techno is maybe the most important thing in my life,
dancing tribal techousy is something that i just cant stand. but u
bet i respect derrick may or anyother famous dj who spin for living.
if i had the oportunity of live by spining records i would also play
all the christian smith discography.
 but i think im free to say that i dont like tribal techouse.
whatever.. i stil have my hope of seeing the man spin and listen to
something like Icon or Ilusion.

 take care u all.
love
henrique
 Good??? and commercial?

 well everyone has their off days, I am sure you do too..so lets be
kind to
 all
 those who do mix as , well we all have off days..

 Well I have had the pleasure and he plays three decks like a
wizard..
 great choice of music and styles, very good all round three deck
mixer...

 So yeah he is more than good, but then that's my opinion..


 -Original Message-
 From: allnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 February 2002 13:10
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] may's djing (was Lost - further details)



 you people mean that derrick may's djing is good? man that would
make
 me happy, since i'm a gigant fan of his work.. the mixed sets i
could
 check out of him were anything but good.. but who knows.. maybe in
 detroit his sets can sound from a detroit artist. the last mix i
 heard from him was depressing. even M4J (a pop eletronic band from
 brazil, leaded by dj MauMau whos totaly comercial) appear in that
 mixed set.

 any coments about his djing in detroit?

  -- Mensagem original ---
 
  De  : John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Para: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED],313
 313@hyperreal.org
  Cc  :
  Data: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:57:40 -0500
  Assunto : RE: [313] Lost - further details
 
  Oooh, at least one 734 313'er will be in England round then --
I'm
 leaving
  Detroit on March 28 and getting back April 10 (though, granted, I
 did just
  see Derrick last month).  If there are any other intriguing shows
 happening
  anywhere in England around these dates, I'd love to hear about
 them
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:37 AM
   To: 313
   Subject: [313] Lost - further details
  
  
   Juan Atkins  Derrick May
  
   Sun 31 March
  
   no venue as of yet
  
 
 
 

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FW: [313] Back To May's djing - uncut opinions

2002-02-27 Thread Odeluga, Ken


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From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Catherine Eberhardt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: [313] Back To May's djing - uncut opinions


An elaboration on 'total ass' would be helpful - it's quite hard to be a
TOTAL ass in a DJ booth, there's really not much to do but play! Plus your
experiences of him being 'wasted when he DJs Detroit' I eagerly await.

-Original Message-
From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:07 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: RE: [313] may's djing (was Lost - further details)


IMO You people are crazy.  I live in Detroit and most any time I
hear him spin or see him he's a total ass.  I am not much for his
DJing, maybe he just likes to be wasted when he DJs Detroit.

 allnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/02 09:24 AM 
man i dont just respect him. in fact i never meet anyone who feels
the way i do about his tracks. he is by far my bigest influence in
producing as well. it would be a dream to me if i could only see him.
but i really dont like some styles of eletronic music. at the same
time that good techno is maybe the most important thing in my life,
dancing tribal techousy is something that i just cant stand. but u
bet i respect derrick may or anyother famous dj who spin for living.
if i had the oportunity of live by spining records i would also play
all the christian smith discography.
 but i think im free to say that i dont like tribal techouse.
whatever.. i stil have my hope of seeing the man spin and listen to
something like Icon or Ilusion.

 take care u all.
love
henrique
 Good??? and commercial?

 well everyone has their off days, I am sure you do too..so lets be
kind to
 all
 those who do mix as , well we all have off days..

 Well I have had the pleasure and he plays three decks like a
wizard..
 great choice of music and styles, very good all round three deck
mixer...

 So yeah he is more than good, but then that's my opinion..


 -Original Message-
 From: allnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 February 2002 13:10
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] may's djing (was Lost - further details)



 you people mean that derrick may's djing is good? man that would
make
 me happy, since i'm a gigant fan of his work.. the mixed sets i
could
 check out of him were anything but good.. but who knows.. maybe in
 detroit his sets can sound from a detroit artist. the last mix i
 heard from him was depressing. even M4J (a pop eletronic band from
 brazil, leaded by dj MauMau whos totaly comercial) appear in that
 mixed set.

 any coments about his djing in detroit?

  -- Mensagem original ---
 
  De  : John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Para: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED],313
 313@hyperreal.org
  Cc  :
  Data: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:57:40 -0500
  Assunto : RE: [313] Lost - further details
 
  Oooh, at least one 734 313'er will be in England round then --
I'm
 leaving
  Detroit on March 28 and getting back April 10 (though, granted, I
 did just
  see Derrick last month).  If there are any other intriguing shows
 happening
  anywhere in England around these dates, I'd love to hear about
 them
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:37 AM
   To: 313
   Subject: [313] Lost - further details
  
  
   Juan Atkins  Derrick May
  
   Sun 31 March
  
   no venue as of yet
  
 
 
 

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RE: RE: [313] may's djing (was Lost - further details)

2002-02-27 Thread Ian Cheshire
thats your opinion and fair enough but

a bit harsh don't you think? 

I mean he's allowed to do what he wants , he mnay think your a total
ass...and thats his opinion :)

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
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IMO You people are crazy.  I live in Detroit and most any time I hear him
spin or see him he's a total ass.  I am not much for his DJing, maybe he
just likes to be wasted when he DJs Detroit.  

 allnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/02 09:24 AM 
man i dont just respect him. in fact i never meet anyone who feels
the way i do about his tracks. he is by far my bigest influence in
producing as well. it would be a dream to me if i could only see him.
but i really dont like some styles of eletronic music. at the same
time that good techno is maybe the most important thing in my life,
dancing tribal techousy is something that i just cant stand. but u
bet i respect derrick may or anyother famous dj who spin for living.
if i had the oportunity of live by spining records i would also play
all the christian smith discography.
 but i think im free to say that i dont like tribal techouse.
whatever.. i stil have my hope of seeing the man spin and listen to
something like Icon or Ilusion.

 take care u all.
love
henrique
 Good??? and commercial?

 well everyone has their off days, I am sure you do too..so lets be
kind to
 all
 those who do mix as , well we all have off days..

 Well I have had the pleasure and he plays three decks like a
wizard..
 great choice of music and styles, very good all round three deck
mixer...

 So yeah he is more than good, but then that's my opinion..


 -Original Message-
 From: allnight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 February 2002 13:10
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] may's djing (was Lost - further details)



 you people mean that derrick may's djing is good? man that would
make
 me happy, since i'm a gigant fan of his work.. the mixed sets i
could
 check out of him were anything but good.. but who knows.. maybe in
 detroit his sets can sound from a detroit artist. the last mix i
 heard from him was depressing. even M4J (a pop eletronic band from
 brazil, leaded by dj MauMau whos totaly comercial) appear in that
 mixed set.

 any coments about his djing in detroit?

  -- Mensagem original ---
 
  De  : John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Para: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED],313
 313@hyperreal.org
  Cc  :
  Data: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:57:40 -0500
  Assunto : RE: [313] Lost - further details
 
  Oooh, at least one 734 313'er will be in England round then --
I'm
 leaving
  Detroit on March 28 and getting back April 10 (though, granted, I
 did just
  see Derrick last month).  If there are any other intriguing shows
 happening
  anywhere in England around these dates, I'd love to hear about
 them
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:37 AM
   To: 313
   Subject: [313] Lost - further details
  
  
   Juan Atkins  Derrick May
  
   Sun 31 March
  
   no venue as of yet
  
 
 
 

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[313] Sunglasses At Night, Nottingham, UK: 7th March

2002-02-27 Thread Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet
(If anyone on 313 is on any other lists relevant to electro/synth pop/Ed
DMX/Rephlex etc (see below), I'd be very grateful if you could forward this
on. And of course, I just can't WAIT to hear what [EMAIL PROTECTED] thinks! :-)

--- transmission begins --

As seen in The Face and the Nottingham Evening Post.

  ^  
 \SUNGLASSES/
   \ AT NIGHT  /
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Fortnightly Thursdays
from
Thursday 7th March 2002

MOOG
Newdigate Street, off Alfreton Road,
Canning Circus, Nottingham

8-12pm
FREE ENTRY
_

An evening of new  old synth pop, electro,
synthetic disco  ersatz funk through a wide-angle lens

Playing the music of
New Order . Kraftwerk . Fischerspooner . LFO
Miss Kittin  The Hacker . Grace Jones . Adult . i-f
Gary Numan . Daniel Wang . DMX Krew . Cybotron
Human League . Cabaret Voltaire . Ladytron . Pet Shop Boys
Soft Cell . Felix Da Housecat . Dopplereffekt . Cameo
Depeche Mode . Mantronix . Detroit Grand Pubahs
_

Your hosts:

Tom Magic Feet [Jockey Slut/The Guardian]
New Wave Dave  occasional guests
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Forthcoming dates:

 March 

*Thurs 7th March: NWD  TMF

--

*Thurs 21st March: TMF  NWD

- April -

*Thurs 11th April: Ghostly International present:

'TANGENT 2002: DISCO NOUVEAU' LP promotion
With special guest ED DMX
[Rephlex/Breakin/Gigolo etc]
+ Free CDs  posters to be given away on the night

Tangent 2002: Disco Nouveau (Ghostly International)
A compendium of the robot disco sound seen through
the eyes of 14 contemporary electronic musicians.
Featuring exclusive tracks by DMX Krew, Adult, I-F,
Ectomorph, Susumu Yokota, Daniel Wang  more.
Released May 2002
More information, MP3s etc from www.ghostly.com

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*Thurs 25th April: NWD  TMF

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Remember: all the above nights are FREE ENTRY

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TMF  NWD's Hot 20 for March:

Parallax Corporation: Fear/Lift Off (Viewlexx)
New Order: Here To Stay (London)
Northern Lite: Treat Me Better (City Rockers)
Pluxus: Agent Tangent (Rocket Girl)
Capri: Deformator Plus (International DeeJay Gigolos)
SI Futures: Eurostar mixes (NovaMute)
Netzwerk Florida: Netzwerk Florida (Psi49Net)
Crème De Menthe: Plastique (Optimo Singles Club)
Adult.: Run Run Crying (Ersatz Audio)
It  My Computer: Sur Une Cigarette (Crème/Bunker)
Japanese Telecom: Virtual Geisha LP (International DeeJay Gigolos)
'Lectronix: Windowshopping In The Mirror (Throbdisk)
Man Parrish: Hip Hop Re Bop mixes (Breakin)
Detroit Grand Pubahs: After School Special (Jive Electro)
Luke Slater: I Can Complete You (Mute)
Perspects: They Keep Dancing (Ghostly International - from Disco Nouveau)
Anthony Rother: Little Computer People [Rother remix] (Psi49Net)
Human League: All I Ever Wanted [Alter Ego remix] (Klang Electronik)
Bobby Conn: Winners [Adult. remix] (Thrill Jockey)
Tiga  Zyntherius: Sunglasses At Night [TGV mix] (City Rockers)

Ten older tracks you may hear:

Malcolm McLaren  The World Famous Supreme Team: Buffalo Gals
New Order: Confusion
Yazoo: Goodbye 70s
Kraftwerk: Tour De France
Alexander Robotnick: Problemes d'Amour
LFO: LFO [Leeds Warehouse mix]
Model 500: Night Drive Thru Babylon
Throbbing Gristle: Hot On The Heels Of Love
Cameo: She's Strange
Information Society: Running
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[313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Wibo . Lammerts
Hi all,

A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that do not start at
normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. (And not only
Mills of course)

Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I really like a
specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible  to mix when there
is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the type of records
that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!

I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?

W


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Re: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Sean Creen


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
 produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?

Purpose Maker tracks don't fade in because they're dj tools. Axis tracks 
sometimes
do fade in because they are music!
Just take the extra time to mix them - its worth it...

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Re: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Gary_Girard

No Wibo, you're not thae only one! I only own one Mills record myself but
I've heard friends moaning about the fade in starts to some of Mills'
records. Wasn't there a post only yesterday that explained why he did this?
Is this a co-incidence? Am I going mad???


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Re: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Mark S Flintoft
I second that!  YMC's Orange Lady (my favorite track of 99 BTW) is one with
that gradual fade in thing - really a challenge mixing them things in;-)

Cheers,

m*
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Subject: [313] Fade In Techno


 Hi all,

 A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that do not start at
 normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. (And not only
 Mills of course)

 Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I really like a
 specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible  to mix when
there
 is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the type of
records
 that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!

 I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
 produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?

 W


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Re: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread james bucknell
just play the dj pierre mixes instead. they're some of my favourite tracks.
james
www.jbucknell.com

 
 Unsatisfied with the beginning of the only mix of Late Night, I can
 remember deciding to fade in the level from silence for an introduction,
 thus discovering a technical trait that I was use on numerous tracks in my
 recording career. Tresor Records, Berlin later released this track on
 Waveform Transmission Vol. 1 a few months later with a later sublicense to
 Pow Wow Records in the US. The Pow Wow Records remixes included a few DJ
 Pierre mixes as well as a more aggressive remix by myself.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread robin pinning
hi wibo,

i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible to
mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and structure
of your mix.

drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
understood it.

robin...


 A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that do not start at
 normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. (And not only
 Mills of course)

 Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I really like a
 specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible  to mix when there
 is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the type of records
 that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!

 I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
 produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?



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Re: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Sean Creen
I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
play Mills and Drexciya records.
Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem with
selecting a more mixable part of the record? Its important to remember that 
these
tracks aren't just made for mixing and any that are tend to be lacking IMO...

Sean.

robin pinning wrote:

 hi wibo,

 i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible to
 mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and structure
 of your mix.

 drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
 understood it.

 robin...

  A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that do not start at
  normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. (And not only
  Mills of course)
 
  Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I really like a
  specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible  to mix when there
  is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the type of records
  that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!
 
  I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
  produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?
 

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RE: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all techno(related)
tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
DJ's or make there music for DJ's. They music because of the music and not
fot DJ's. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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 Van: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are 
 impossible to
 mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow 
 and structure
 of your mix.
 
 drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
 understood it.
 
 robin...
 
 
  A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that 
 do not start at
  normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. 
 (And not only
  Mills of course)
 
  Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I 
 really like a
  specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible  
 to mix when there
  is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the 
 type of records
  that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!
 
  I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, 
 but why does he
  produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on 
 dealing with this?
 
 
 
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RE: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org

2002-02-27 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
Hi,

I'm always a bit confused about how I feel on these practises. I've seen it
happen before: D.J. or producer or singer gets famous easily by being
friends with the right people at the right time, (sometimes good looks are
are great help in this) get noticed by the larger ignorant crowd and media
by playing commercial crap music and when at the righ momentum they get
educated, miraculously develop a sense of taste and decide to break with the
past and now all of a sudden expect the true people to take them
seriously.

That's the negative point of view. On the other side, the good taste was
probably always there, it just needed some time to surface. And at least the
person in question has seen the light (some people never do).

We've seen it happen with big names like:
Madonna
George Michael
Robbie Williams
And now with 100% Isis (and I bet there are more examples from the
underground)

My dilemma is: I really have respect for Madonna, George and Robbie. Is
there something wrong with me?

Joost


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From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 26 februari 2002 09:28
To: bart wolff; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org


Her latest mix-cd called ´reformations´or ´transformation´(i believe?)
is quite good, as mentioned already, deep/dark/funky techno and
no more clubby stuff, she broke with that kind of sound and scene...

What´s next..dj Joost van Bellen playing Awakenings???

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: bart wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2002 9:57
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: Re: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org


Well, i am not a fan of 100%isis, but i must say, that a year or so, she has
stunned me a few times with a very good, pumping, minimal techno set

Yes i know, all the Dutch on the list find that hard to believe, and so do
i...but it's a fact



At 25-2-2002 + 16:00, you wrote:
Following on from that,  maybe some of the Dutch and Belgian contingent on
here may be able to help...

I heard a mix by a female Dutch DJ called 100% Esis (or something like
that)
on London's Kiss FM a couple of years back which mixed the likes of 16b,
Mills and others in a quick half hour mix. Anybody heard of her or seen
her
play?

Cheers


Toby





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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org


  Hi,
 
  We have added an interview with one of Hollands leading techno DJ's,
Lady
  Aida to our website. She is an excellent DJ, she writes her column for
a
big
  dutch music magazine and her clubnight (Fluid) in her hometown
Eindhoven
is
  one of the longest running clubnights in Holland.
 
  For those of you who don't have a clue who she is (proberly 95% of you
:))
  we have added to DJ mixes from her to our website. One of them is
recorded
  live at Fluid, the other one shows the state of the dutch techno scene,
so
  one mix with only dutch artists.
 
  read and listen here:
 
http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexr
eq
  =viewarticleartid=10
 
  or:
  http://technotourist.org and click on 'Interviews' and select 'Lady
Aida'
 
  Enjoy!
 
 
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Re: [313] Rare Detroit techno for auction on Ebay

2002-02-27 Thread Tim Maughan

hey - why do you think everyone's selling it? ;)

on 27/2/02 9:58 am, Jason Brunton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsuserid=digital_sou
l 
 include=0since=-1sort=2rows=25
 
 Loads of rare stuff including the recently discussed Deepside remixes of The
 Art of Stalking, the 313 Detroit comp on Infonet and stuff from Kenny Larkin,
 Carl Craig, Nexus 21, Orlando Voorn, Blake Baxter and more
 
 Cheers
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 Can everyone please stop selling loads of amazing Techno on e-bay when I've
 got no MONEY- it's driving me up the wall!!!
 
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Re: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread robin pinning

i've been here before on the global techno list.

to say that these records are not dj records is a little odd (soz kt), and
what has loops got to do with it? it doesn't matter whether you play loops
or not there is a natural structure to music that, if you follow it, will
make the mix sound 'right' (and be better to dance to)

a fade in obfuscates the search for that initial beat to catch and if you
want to do that quickly then that ruins the track for me (try doing
doubles half a beat out with a fade in start...not easy)

_BUT_ we should agree to disagree on this one as we could argue to the
cows come home and it won't change my mind. although i can see that the
artists might do this so that you start on one of their tracks or stop and play
the track from the fade in so that the track isn't a track but a song and
given the 'proper' attention.

peace

robin...



 I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
 might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
 play Mills and Drexciya records.
 Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem 
 with
 selecting a more mixable part of the record? Its important to remember that 
 these
 tracks aren't just made for mixing and any that are tend to be lacking IMO...

 Sean.

 robin pinning wrote:

  hi wibo,
 
  i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible to
  mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and structure
  of your mix.
 
  drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
  understood it.
 
  robin...
 
   A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that do not start at
   normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. (And not only
   Mills of course)
  
   Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I really like a
   specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible  to mix when 
   there
   is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the type of 
   records
   that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!
  
   I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
   produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?
  
 
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Re: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Jason Brunton
 I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
 might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
 play Mills and Drexciya records.
 Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem
 with
 selecting a more mixable part of the record? Its important to remember that
 these
 tracks aren't just made for mixing and any that are tend to be lacking IMO...
 
 Sean.
 
I second (and third!) both the above and KJ's post


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[313] titonton dj-set online ++ amsterdam

2002-02-27 Thread marsel


just added a mix set from the man duvante, titonton
http://www.rushhour.nl/broad.html

also other amsterdam, paradisco3000 attractions coming up:

next week:
08/03/2002 Omoa night feat. Recloose, Ayro (live), a.o.

further on:
05/04/2002 Wonderful w/ Dj Spinna  Bobbito
10/05/2002 Ron Trent
24/05/2002 Norma Jean Bell LIVE

all in Paradiso, Amsterdam.. .

and queensday?

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[313] Pow Wow records - was RE: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Neil Wallace

:I'm not going mad, here it is ...
:
:Unsatisfied with the beginning of the only mix of Late Night, I can
:remember deciding to fade in the level from silence for an introduction,
:thus discovering a technical trait that I was use on numerous tracks in my
:recording career. Tresor Records, Berlin later released this track on
:Waveform Transmission Vol. 1 a few months later with a later sublicense to
:Pow Wow Records in the US. The Pow Wow Records remixes included a few DJ
:Pierre mixes as well as a more aggressive remix by myself.

ive got a mills 12 on pow wow (i cant remember if its this one or not) but
it is the crappest pressing ive ever heard in terms of volume - seriously
its only got a couple of tracks on it but it is about half the volume of
most albums! i did get it second hand so it could concievably be a result of
some serious abuse but i doubt it - has any one else got any pow wow records
to confirm/deny their crapness

cheers

neil


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Re: [313] Pow Wow records

2002-02-27 Thread Jason Brunton

 
 ive got a mills 12 on pow wow (i cant remember if its this one or not) but
 it is the crappest pressing ive ever heard in terms of volume - seriously
 its only got a couple of tracks on it but it is about half the volume of
 most albums! i did get it second hand so it could concievably be a result of
 some serious abuse but i doubt it - has any one else got any pow wow records
 to confirm/deny their crapness
 
 cheers
 
 neil
 
 
I used to have this same record with the same problem

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[313] Off Topic - Brussels this w/e

2002-02-27 Thread Gary_Girard



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[313] DJ Encores.....

2002-02-27 Thread Kerr Graham
I had the pleasure of attending Body and Soul a few years ago on the night
of Francois K's 40th birthday - it finished bang on the stroke of 11pm so as
not to get in trouble with the authorities over the licence.The crowd
weren't having it though - everyone was screaming and shouting for an encore
(such was the quality of the previous 8 hours) but no way was it
happening.So what did they do?First someone started drumming out a beat on
top of a speaker,then a few more joined in,then someone started singing and
before you knew it people were dancing again! I've never seen anything like
it - it was 11.20 before they managed to get us out..



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RE: [313] may's djing

2002-02-27 Thread Eric Scuccimarra

That makes a lot more sense... I've seen that happen before.

At 12:56 PM 2/27/2002 +1100, David Gillies wrote:

I've seen DJs play overtime before, but an encore seems a bit bizarre to me
considering that what a good DJ does can't be done in the few minutes an
encore usually gets.


Maybe encore is the wrong word. It was more like people wouldn't leave, 
just kept dancing, so he just kept playing. Security cut the sound. People 
still wouldn't leave, they wanted more


It was that good a night people just wanted to keep dancing. He'd weaved 
his magic over the last 4 or 5 hours or whatever it was, and people were 
still entranced.


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Re: [313] DJ Encores.....

2002-02-27 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
Now this makes sense to me... People don't want to stop dancing so either 
the DJ keeps playing despite the clubs protests or something like this 
happens.


I guess my confusion over it is more about the DJ as rock star thing 
which I guess is the case in Europe but is not so much here. To have a DJ 
expecting an encore seems to me to be just a huge ego thing. And in the US 
I guess that while people often go to clubs to hear particular DJs the DJ 
is not the focus of the evening (with certain notable exceptions). The DJ 
is still providing music for people to dance to - not acting as a performer 
for people to watch.


I'm also assuming that the headlining DJ will not be the last DJ of the 
night, which I usually find to be the case with exceptions in clubs where 
the headlining DJ plays all of the next day (like Tenaglia at Vinyl and 
Vasquez from back in the Sound Factory days). So the thought of a DJ 
stopping the music when they are done to give the crowd a chance to ask for 
an encore rather than letting the next DJ continue to play music and not 
breaking the groove strikes me as slightly egotistical.


Probably just a cultural thing I guess.

On a related note is Body  Soul still going on? I know that Shelter closed 
and then moved and reopened or something but is Body  SOUL still going on 
or has that ended?


Eric

At 12:47 PM 2/27/2002 +, Kerr Graham wrote:

I had the pleasure of attending Body and Soul a few years ago on the night
of Francois K's 40th birthday - it finished bang on the stroke of 11pm so as
not to get in trouble with the authorities over the licence.The crowd
weren't having it though - everyone was screaming and shouting for an encore
(such was the quality of the previous 8 hours) but no way was it
happening.So what did they do?First someone started drumming out a beat on
top of a speaker,then a few more joined in,then someone started singing and
before you knew it people were dancing again! I've never seen anything like
it - it was 11.20 before they managed to get us out..



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Re: [313] Fw: Jeff Mills: Archiv 4 - New??

2002-02-27 Thread s mcgill
I know you say this version is unearthed but I have always wanted to know
what the version was that Carl Cox (believe it or not) used on his first
'Fact' mix project. It certainly wasn't the version on Waveforms 1.

Scott M
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 Artist: Jeff Mills
 Title: Late Night
 Label: Tresor
 Ca. No: 56183-6
 Release: April 2002
 Distribution (UK): SRD

  TRACKLIST

 A1 Late Night (Mills Mix)(4:49)
 A2 Late Night (4:39)
 B1 Basic Human Design (5:52)

 The Tresor Archiv series continues to roll on, unearthing previously
 unavailable or deleted material from the depths of the vault.

 This latest release features a long-missing track from Jeff Mills - a
remix
 of the classic Late Night from 1993. The original version appeared on
 Mills' debut album Waveform Transmission Vol. 1 (1992!), but his Mills
 Mix remix has remained one of Tresor's most infamous 'lost tracks'. It is
 believed that the last DAT of the remix was destroyed in a Chicago
basement
 flood. However, in October 2001, the track was re-mastered by Moritz Von
 Oswald at Berlin's Dubplates  Mastering. This is the first time this
 long-lost Classic has been available on Tresor.

 The B-Side Basic Human Design is actually an instrumental version of
 Spider Formation (from Axis Records AX-009), originally found on
Waveform
 Transmission Vol. 3 but mastered and cut at DM; Berlin by Moritz Von
 Oswald (one half of Maurizio).

  *** Jeff Mills' Late Night (Mills Mix) also appears now for the first
 time on CD format via Tresor - True Sprit (Tresor 185, ca.no. 56185-2).

 Jeff Mills plays Homelands on 1st June.

 LATE NIGHT: meaning  deep or deeper in the night.

 Mid-Town Manhattan, New York, the summer of 1993 shortly after I moved
from
 Detroit. I just started my DJ residency on Friday nights at the Limelight
 called Future Shock. As I was beginning to get used to the rush of New
 York, my tensions from culture shock of moving from Detroit, a smaller
city
 with less than a million people to New York City, the Metropolis, I had
 began to relax again as my fondness for those infamous New York Nights was
 beginning to grow. It was a unique time. The sound of Rotterdam was the
 favorite Techno style, the beats were dark, fast and lethal but, still
 green. It was the summer: DJ Hell and Patrick Pulsinger had moved to
 Manhattan and every week, the Limelight was in competition with the
 Palladium and flew in Techno Artists from Europe to perform. I can
remember
 a lazy afternoon Richard (Aphex Twin) and crew flew in from London and all
 of us eating takeaway barbecue chicken on the roof of Lord Mike's
apartment.
 Then, the daytime was only a cocktail for the night.

 In those days on Friday night, the Limelight would reach its high
intensity
 level around 3:00am onward until the end of the night. High meaning, full
 capacity, swinging cage dancers, the rave flares of Authur's odyssey
 lightening and the ritual microphone introductions by Romeo Romeo were in
an
 extreme level. As for the music program, it was the honorable duty of DJ
 Repete and myself to keep the beats right. What I loved the most was later
 in the night, around 5:30am. The time when the out-of-town tourists and
the
 club trendy had tired left the dancefloor, the music we played got a bit
 more daring, a lot deeper and all existing dancers on the dancefloor were
 more alert and sensitive to new sounds. It was the feeling of this
 timeframe that I tried to capture through the track Late Night.

 In those days of my transition from Detroit to New York and not exactly
 aware of my permanent living situation, I was a bit reluctant to move all
 of my studio and equipment to New York at one time. So, from each weekly
 trip back to Detroit to fulfill my duties at Underground Resistance, I
began
 to take one piece of equipment at a time. My ability to create the
 more complex tracks was gradual and slow. Nevertheless, within the
weekdays
 I would have the enormous urges to compose music so, I would try to record
 with what I had at the time. Which was only a Roland 16 track mixer,
Yamaha
 DX100 keyboard, Yamaha Sequencer, Roland TR-909 drum machine, no monitor
 return speakers (I mixed through headphones) and one of those new gadgets,
a
 portable DAT recorder that I bought down on Canal Street in SOHO. The day
I
 purchased the DAT recorder was a productive one, I remember recording
about
 15 tracks within a few hours, Late Night among other Waveform
Transmission
 Vol. 1 tracks were created on this evening.

 Unsatisfied with the beginning of the only mix of Late Night, I can
 remember deciding to fade in the level from silence for an introduction,
 thus discovering a technical trait that I was use on numerous tracks in my
 recording career. Tresor Records, Berlin later released this track on
 Waveform Transmission 

RE: [313] Fade in techno

2002-02-27 Thread Max Duley / ARCart
There was a thread on this subject last year on the g-tech list. Funnily 
enough I used Axis 9 as an example of the merits of fade-ins rather than as a 
negative. I've copied it over from the archives:


it can make a track for me.
Sometimes it can give an indication of the intended mood of a track. For
example, like I said before if a track fades in it can project the feeling
that it is not just a 5 minute piece, but a part of a bigger whole. Again it
depends on how you view the genre. If I could give a classic example, the
first track on the beige side of Axis 9 fades in and out, and is perfect in
that context. It could have just boosted off from a solid start, but then
you would KNOW exactly where the piece starts, you are not left to imagine
what has happened before or after the part you actually hear, the part of
the journey that you were not consciously travelling.


from another post in the same thread:



I recently got given some new records on a couple of prominent labels
associated with very loop based 4:4 tracks, and at home mixing them I am
amazed at how ridiculously accurate my mixes sound. This is because it is SO
easy to mix tracks that run to this over familiar formula. 2:4 4:4 8:4 there
is no room for error. I'm not saying error is desirable, nor that I don't
make or play tracks with that structure, but to me a whole set of that stuff
without variation is just unbearably boring. To me that rigid loop stuff is
just pure body music, and I like techno to stimulate my mind while my body
is distracted by dancing. If I want a pure body effect I'll dance to house,
it's more fun and interesting.

So going back to the title of the post, what is techno to you? Is it a kit
to be put together like something from IKEA, all the bits made the same so
they fit..neatly...together?

or what?

Is criticising a techno artist for fading in a track (or adding an unusually
structured section, or sticking an extra beat/bar in somewhere) not slightly
barbaric? I mean, is techno not supposed to challenge conventional art
forms? Indeed, is techno not art? Would you refuse to look at a great
painting if you didn't like one particular brushstroke, just because it
challenges the way you need to interact with it? Or would you take the
challenge and learn to adapt to new or more complex situations because it
can take you and your audience to another level on the techno experience?

After all, we are only talking about cueing up to a kick drum aren't we? It's 
not that much of a challenge!!


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[313] Kym Mazelle Taste My Love

2002-02-27 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Any thoughts on what'd be a fair price for this? I have looked for it for a
while and have been quoted at $85 for a copy. This seems like too much, but
maybe it isn't. Let me know off list. Thanks,

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[313] 16 / 32 beats (was: RE: (313) Fade In Techno)

2002-02-27 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
Well, I could take this to another level by saying that all records that I play
out are records that are produced in a strict 16 or 32 beat counter (I don't
know if this is clearly explained to everyone, I mean records in which nothing
new pops up until the end of the 16 or 32 counts). Really DJ friendly stuff,
and NOT necesarrily boring.

Most of the Drexciya shit does not fit in my set, so I only play it at home.

W
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Subject: RE: [313] Fade In Techno


I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
play Mills and Drexciya records.
Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem with
selecting a more mixable part of the record? Its important to remember that
these
tracks aren't just made for mixing and any that are tend to be lacking IMO...

Sean.

robin pinning wrote:

 hi wibo,

 i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible to
 mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and structure
 of your mix.

 drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
 understood it.

 robin...

  A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that do not start at
  normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in. (And not only
  Mills of course)
 
  Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I really like a
  specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible  to mix when there
  is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the type of records
  that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!
 
  I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
  produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?
 

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[313] RE: (313) Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis records) that
really would become instant classics and favorite DJ tools if they would just
start from 1 and not with a fade in... And it's not only Mills I am talking
about.

W

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It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all techno(related)
tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
DJ's or make there music for DJ's. They music because of the music and not
fot DJ's.

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 Van: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are
 impossible to
 mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow
 and structure
 of your mix.

 drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
 understood it.

 robin...


  A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that
 do not start at
  normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in.
 (And not only
  Mills of course)
 
  Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I
 really like a
  specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible
 to mix when there
  is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the
 type of records
  that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!
 
  I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly,
 but why does he
  produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on
 dealing with this?
 


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[313] RE: (313) Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread marsel



whoop!!

and there goes the crossfader


it's so easy
i can mix every record

;)

At 27-2-2002 +0100 14:43, you wrote:
Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis 
records) that

really would become instant classics and favorite DJ tools if they would just
start from 1 and not with a fade in... And it's not only Mills I am talking
about.

W

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It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all techno(related)
tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
DJ's or make there music for DJ's. They music because of the music and not
fot DJ's.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are
 impossible to
 mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow
 and structure
 of your mix.

 drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
 understood it.

 robin...


  A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that
 do not start at
  normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in.
 (And not only
  Mills of course)
 
  Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I
 really like a
  specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible
 to mix when there
  is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the
 type of records
  that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!
 
  I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly,
 but why does he
  produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on
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[313] ot : OP-ART FA + more

2002-02-27 Thread gw12b
Ive got a pretty big list of stuff for sale at the mo. including Autechre /
Plug / OP-ART / Mike Paradinas etc. etc. If youd like a look please check it
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[313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Neil Wallace

i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
female vocal slapped on top - what is this?

neil


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RE: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Rob Theakston
that's kevin saunderson's wife, ann. i believe it is out on 430 west. 

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i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
female vocal slapped on top - what is this?

neil


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Re: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 9:25:37 AM, a knob was tweaked and out came:

NW i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
NW female vocal slapped on top - what is this?

Was it the Ann Saunderson vocal mix?  Just open your heart,
open your mind, let the love flow let the sun shine?

That's been out for a while now.

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Re: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Tim Maughan

i've even heard it on daytime radio 1 here in the UK. which was pretty cool
and weird.

on 27/2/02 4:29 pm, Brian 'balistic' Prince at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 9:25:37 AM, a knob was tweaked and out came:
 
 NW i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
 NW female vocal slapped on top - what is this?
 
 Was it the Ann Saunderson vocal mix?  Just open your heart,
 open your mind, let the love flow let the sun shine?
 
 That's been out for a while now.
 
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RE: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Eric Scuccimarra

Blackwater - Kevin Saunderson Remix on Concept.

E-Dancer Vocal Mix
E-Dancer Dub Mix
Chase the Blues Instrumental Mix

The original has vocals by Kevin's wife Ann as well, as far as I remember.


At 11:27 AM 2/27/2002 -0500, Rob Theakston wrote:

that's kevin saunderson's wife, ann. i believe it is out on 430 west.

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i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
female vocal slapped on top - what is this?

neil


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Re: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Gary_Girard

That's the mix Lawrence Burden plays on the 430 West comp. Personally, I
think the vocal sounds alright but I appreciate that the die-hard techno
heads out there would write it off as cheese instantly.


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Re: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org

2002-02-27 Thread glyph1001
Nah, there's nothing wrong with ya.  Sometimes, in order to 'break in' 
certain measures have to be taken.  Surely,there's plenty of ways to go 
about it and your explanation is one.   If you want to suffer through, 
you can.  Or if you want to play to it and change your style later on, 
that's a great way too.  This also occurs in the movie industry where an 
indie producer may work his way up to notoriety and financial award by 
producing a money-making film and then down the road he/she will have 
the clout and freedom and most importantly THE MOOLAH to do 
serious/experimental films.  This may not sit well with alot of people 
but its just how the world works from my observation.


Laters,
g

Ploegmakers, Joost wrote:


Hi,

I'm always a bit confused about how I feel on these practises. I've seen it
happen before: D.J. or producer or singer gets famous easily by being
friends with the right people at the right time, (sometimes good looks are
are great help in this) get noticed by the larger ignorant crowd and media
by playing commercial crap music and when at the righ momentum they get
educated, miraculously develop a sense of taste and decide to break with the
past and now all of a sudden expect the true people to take them
seriously.

That's the negative point of view. On the other side, the good taste was
probably always there, it just needed some time to surface. And at least the
person in question has seen the light (some people never do).

We've seen it happen with big names like:
Madonna
George Michael
Robbie Williams
And now with 100% Isis (and I bet there are more examples from the
underground)

My dilemma is: I really have respect for Madonna, George and Robbie. Is
there something wrong with me?

Joost


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Sent: dinsdag 26 februari 2002 09:28
To: bart wolff; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org


Her latest mix-cd called ´reformations´or ´transformation´(i believe?)
is quite good, as mentioned already, deep/dark/funky techno and
no more clubby stuff, she broke with that kind of sound and scene...

What´s next..dj Joost van Bellen playing Awakenings???

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: bart wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2002 9:57
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: Re: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org


Well, i am not a fan of 100%isis, but i must say, that a year or so, she has
stunned me a few times with a very good, pumping, minimal techno set

Yes i know, all the Dutch on the list find that hard to believe, and so do
i...but it's a fact




At 25-2-2002 + 16:00, you wrote:


Following on from that,  maybe some of the Dutch and Belgian contingent on
here may be able to help...

I heard a mix by a female Dutch DJ called 100% Esis (or something like
that)
on London's Kiss FM a couple of years back which mixed the likes of 16b,
Mills and others in a quick half hour mix. Anybody heard of her or seen
her
play?

Cheers


Toby





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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org



Hi,

We have added an interview with one of Hollands leading techno DJ's,


Lady


Aida to our website. She is an excellent DJ, she writes her column for


a
big


dutch music magazine and her clubnight (Fluid) in her hometown


Eindhoven
is


one of the longest running clubnights in Holland.

For those of you who don't have a clue who she is (proberly 95% of you


:))


we have added to DJ mixes from her to our website. One of them is


recorded


live at Fluid, the other one shows the state of the dutch techno scene,


so


one mix with only dutch artists.

read and listen here:


http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexr


eq


=viewarticleartid=10

or:
http://technotourist.org and click on 'Interviews' and select 'Lady


Aida'


Enjoy!


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[313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread stewart
The first promo copy I got of this about 4 months ago had this vocal mix on.
I had always assumed it was the vocal mix that had caused it to become such
as big hit in the first place as the vocals do make it more commercially
uplifting. I personally can't see why the instrumental version has been
picked up on as I really dont think its anything special. Liked it when I
first heard it, but only because it reminded me of very old techno, but got
bored of it quickly. It certainly isn't the best track Octave One have ever
done (that honour possibly belongs to 'niccolette' imo) and so I really dont
understand why that track inparticular amidst all the electronic music that
comes from Detroit is suddenly deemed chart and major record store worthy,
how do these things happen? Did Pete Tong play it on Radio 1 once or
something? Then again it always seems to me that it is never the best of any
artist or genre that becomes commercially representative of it. Is S-Express
the best Acid tune ever? Is 'Jaguar' The best UR tune ever? No, but because
of the seemingly random mechanics of the commercial dance industry, these
tunes end up getting held up above the rest, doomed to appear on endless
'best ever in the world part 34...etc' compilations for the rest of
eternity, when they are anything but!. I for one can't really figure it out.

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RE: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Dennis Donohue
Wasn't the Blackwater with vocals the original?  I have the release on 430
west by Octave One with the instrumental on one side and Ann Saunderson
singing vocals on the other side. IMO - those vocals are excellent.  If
you're talking about a vocal that just says, balckwater over the
background, that's very E-dancer sounding - it's actually the e-dancer remix
also out on 430 west.  Those vocals are pretty hairy IMO.  There's also a
new Octave one remix of the tune that is supposed to be the strings remix.
Haven't heard it, but Mike Taylor was supposed to play it on his show last
weekend - maybe he can shed some light.

Dennis

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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Neil Wallace
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: [313] black water with vocals?

Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 9:25:37 AM, a knob was tweaked and out came:

NW i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
NW female vocal slapped on top - what is this?

Was it the Ann Saunderson vocal mix?  Just open your heart,
open your mind, let the love flow let the sun shine?

That's been out for a while now.


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[313] New York City

2002-02-27 Thread Rudy Delgado


   Hi all,

Some friends and I are making a trip to New York 
(from Detroit) for a nice 4 day vacation and I was
wondering if any of you can throw some recommended
spots my way.  I picked up a couple of tickets to go
see Hawtin on the 2nd and as of now that seems to be
the only plan (aside from record shopping). Any help
will come appreciated. 

 Regards,
   -Rudy-

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[313] Dirk Diggler + Dub Taylor this week

2002-02-27 Thread Giles Dickerson
Does anyone know who's booking these guys in NYC?

- Giles

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Re: RE: [313] Back To May's djing - uncut opinions

2002-02-27 Thread Catherine Eberhardt
It's not really much to talk about, it's just May.  The last time I saw him his 
set was ok, but why does he always have to play that cheesy latino stuff?  Off 
the tables, he was running around hitting on every woman in the building like a 
perverse hormone-driven teenage boy.  

I've seen him probably 5 or 6 times in and around Detroit.  Every time I have 
seen him he is nothing to get excited over.  It's not a horrible set or 
anything, but I know it could be a lot better.


 Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/02 04:06 AM 
An elaboration on 'total ass' would be helpful - it's quite hard to be a
TOTAL ass in a DJ booth, there's really not much to do but play! Plus your
experiences of him being 'wasted when he DJs Detroit' I eagerly await.

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IMO You people are crazy.  I live in Detroit and most any time I
hear him spin or see him he's a total ass.  I am not much for his
DJing, maybe he just likes to be wasted when he DJs Detroit.

 allnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/02 09:24 AM 
man i dont just respect him. in fact i never meet anyone who feels
the way i do about his tracks. he is by far my bigest influence in
producing as well. it would be a dream to me if i could only see him.
but i really dont like some styles of eletronic music. at the same
time that good techno is maybe the most important thing in my life,
dancing tribal techousy is something that i just cant stand. but u
bet i respect derrick may or anyother famous dj who spin for living.
if i had the oportunity of live y spining records i would also play
all the christian smith discography.
 but i think im free to say that i dont like tribal techouse.
whatever.. i stil have my hope of seeing the man spin and listen to
something like Icon or Ilusion.

 take care u all.
love
henrique
 Good??? and commercial?

 well everyone has their off days, I am sure you do too..so lets be
kind to
 all
 those who do mix as , well we all have off days..

 Well I have had the pleasure and he plays three decks like a
wizard..
 great choice of music and styles, very good all round three deck
mixer...

 So yeah he is more than good, but then that's my opinion..


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 you people mean that derrick may's djing is good? man that would
make
 me happy, since i'm a gigant fan of his work.. the mixed sets i
could
 check out of him were anything but good.. but who knows.. maybe in
 detroit his sets can sound from a detroit artist. the last mix i
 heard from him was depressing. even M4J (a pop eletronic band from
 brazil, leaded by dj MauMau whos totaly comercial) appear in that
 mixed set.

 any coments about his djing in detroit?

  -- Mensagem original ---
 
  De  : John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Para: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED],313
 313@hyperreal.org
  Cc  :
  Data: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:57:40 -0500
  Assunto : RE: [313] Lost - further details
 
  Oooh, at least one 734 313'er will be in England round then --
I'm
 leaving
  Detroit on March 28 and getting back April 10 (though, granted, I
 did just
  see Derrick last month).  If there are any other intriguing shows
 happening
  anywhere in England around these dates, I'd love to hear aout
 them
 
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   Subject: [313] Lost - further details
  
  
   Juan Atkins  Derrick May
  
   Sun 31 March
  
   no venue as of yet
  
 
 
 

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Re: [313] RE: (313) Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread s mcgill
I am not normally too bothered by fade ins on records as most of the time
you can get around it. But yopu have hit a raw nerve with one record I have
always wished wouldn't fade in. That record is the UR - Turning Point
release. The track with the distorted funked out organ sound. The name
escapes me now though.

I also remember when Antonio Fargas (Huggy Bear) presented the 'top ten soul
records of all time' for Channel 4 in the UK. He quipped, Man, I hate fade
outs!.

Scott M
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Subject: [313] RE: (313) Fade In Techno


 Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis
records) that
 really would become instant classics and favorite DJ tools if they would
just
 start from 1 and not with a fade in... And it's not only Mills I am
talking
 about.

 W

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 It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all
techno(related)
 tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
 DJ's or make there music for DJ's. They music because of the music and not
 fot DJ's.

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  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are
  impossible to
  mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow
  and structure
  of your mix.
 
  drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
  understood it.
 
  robin...
 
 
   A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that
  do not start at
   normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in.
  (And not only
   Mills of course)
  
   Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I
  really like a
   specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible
  to mix when there
   is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the
  type of records
   that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!
  
   I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly,
  but why does he
   produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on
  dealing with this?
  
 
 
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[313] Re: New York City

2002-02-27 Thread Ana Dane
if you're looking for something to do in new york, try frank's in brooklyn-
tonight around 11pm metro area will be djing. no cover, cheap drinks, and
cheap women.

http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/11351270/

-ana


Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:52:54 -0800 (PST)
To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: Rudy Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New York City 
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Hi all,

Some friends and I are making a trip to New York 
(from Detroit) for a nice 4 day vacation and I was
wondering if any of you can throw some recommended
spots my way.  I picked up a couple of tickets to go
see Hawtin on the 2nd and as of now that seems to be
the only plan (aside from record shopping). Any help
will come appreciated. 

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Re: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Mark S Flintoft
Duff vocal??  Frankly I quite like it and have played it out quite a bit

What is the general consensus on this though?  I am intrigued...

Cheers,

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Re: [313] RE: (313) Fade In Techno

2002-02-27 Thread Mark S Flintoft
Hey Wibo...

You could always throw the track into Sound Forge,  re-edit it so that it's
more 'DJ friendly' and burn it to CD...

Just a thought,

m*
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Subject: [313] RE: (313) Fade In Techno


 Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis
records) that
 really would become instant classics and favorite DJ tools if they would
just
 start from 1 and not with a fade in... And it's not only Mills I am
talking
 about.

 W

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 From: Jongsma; K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Lammerts, Wibo; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1
 Subject: RE: [313] Fade In Techno


 It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all
techno(related)
 tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
 DJ's or make there music for DJ's. They music because of the music and not
 fot DJ's.

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  Van: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are
  impossible to
  mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow
  and structure
  of your mix.
 
  drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
  understood it.
 
  robin...
 
 
   A lot of the old records by Mills have tracks on them that
  do not start at
   normal volume levels, but somehow the track gets faded in.
  (And not only
   Mills of course)
  
   Am I the only one who thinks of this being a real drag? I
  really like a
   specific track from AX009 but I find it really impossible
  to mix when there
   is a monitor speaker blasting in my left ear. These are the
  type of records
   that cause major trainwrecks in my DJ sets!
  
   I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly,
  but why does he
   produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on
  dealing with this?
  
 
 
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[313] Live Dirtyradio Tonight

2002-02-27 Thread Tyler Hanel

Tonight at 6pm pacific time (gmt-8:00) tune in to dirtyradio
(http://www.dirtyradio.net) for another night of Thrift-Store Radio with my
good pal JP, spinning all his wierd and wonderful records rescued from the
forgotten bins of suburbia, followed by the techno/house mix-up by me,
Tyler Hanel, spinning both fresh and classic techno, electro, and house
tracks, starting at 7pm pacific. Straight out of deepest, darkest Leucadia,
California.

Check the website at: http://www.dirtyradio.net 
or go straight to the broadcast: http://www.dirtyradio.net/listen.pls

Also, Dirtyradio is streaming 24/7 now, with the automated mp3 playlist,
when we are not doing live shows. Give it a listen and tell us what you
think. Thanks!

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RE: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread yussel
They also just recorded a version with live strings and percussion that
should be out soon.



On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Rob Theakston wrote:

 that's kevin saunderson's wife, ann. i believe it is out on 430 west.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:26 AM
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 Subject: [313] black water with vocals?



 i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
 female vocal slapped on top - what is this?

 neil


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RE: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Yair Etziony
r they like trying to make this record into this years jaguar???
Y
ps-i like the ann saunderson vocal version:)

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They also just recorded a version with live strings and percussion that
should be out soon.



On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Rob Theakston wrote:

 that's kevin saunderson's wife, ann. i believe it is out on 430 west.

 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:26 AM
 To: 313
 Subject: [313] black water with vocals?



 i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
 female vocal slapped on top - what is this?

 neil


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[313] Dirk Diggler + Dub Taylor this week

2002-02-27 Thread Jim Grindle
re: Does anyone know who's booking these guys in NYC?
Viktor Mizo and Christian Smith
Tronic Treatment parties

http://www.tronictreatment.com/proof/progress.jpg 
in this link it's Vik up front and Christian in the middle at Baktun(the new
venue)...
http://www.ofoto.com/PhotoView.jsp?UV=304836953538_31224184303US=0Upost_si
gnin=BrowsePhotos.jsp%3FshowSlide%3Dtrue%26m%3D15057254303%26n%3D766571450c
ollid=64926254303photoid=85926254303


RE: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
I like the record as well, I like the vocal on it though it's not the best 
vocal I've ever heard, or even that great of a vocal but it's pretty good.


As someone already said the record isn't even one of Octave One's best so 
I'm not sure what the big deal is.


Is it being hyped up in Europe or something? I don't think I've heard it 
outside of my home in NY...


Eric

At 10:28 PM 2/27/2002 +0200, Yair Etziony wrote:

r they like trying to make this record into this years jaguar???
Y
ps-i like the ann saunderson vocal version:)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:20 PM
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Cc: Neil Wallace; 313
Subject: RE: [313] black water with vocals?


They also just recorded a version with live strings and percussion that
should be out soon.



On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Rob Theakston wrote:

 that's kevin saunderson's wife, ann. i believe it is out on 430 west.

 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:26 AM
 To: 313
 Subject: [313] black water with vocals?



 i was in hmv on saturday and heard black water with a (IMHO) pretty duff
 female vocal slapped on top - what is this?

 neil


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[313] Thurs, Feb 27 at Quest: Mike Geiger and Gabe Real

2002-02-27 Thread Altitude
Thursday, Feb 27 2002


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Special Guest: Mike Geiger

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$5, Doors at 9 PM, 21+ with ID please
 


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Ferndale 313.438.4105
(the SW corner of 9 mile rd and Woodward)

We would like to thank everyone who came out last week to make
the kick off a great success and we are looking forward to seeing 
u there this week.


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[313] Agents of cHange/Disco Nouveau

2002-02-27 Thread yussel
Here's apiece I write for Urb if anyone cares.

It addresses two of this list's favorite subjects, and one of rob's
favorite subjects.

www.urb.com

click:
massv
agents of change/disco nouveau


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RE: [313] black water with vocals?

2002-02-27 Thread Innes Macnee
The original of this track didn't have vocals on it and was named as The 
Untold on the Black Water EP on 430 West.  The other side of the EP has 
tracks called Black Water and Black Waters but they are different tracks.  
The version with the vocals came out on Concept/430 West, who put out the 
Burden mix cd also




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RE: [313] black water with vocals? Sexy Adventures of orietta St .cloud

2002-02-27 Thread Ja'Maul Redmond
I'm not a big fan of the vocal black water track. It doesn't sound like the
vocals were written with the track. It sounds like an add on instead of a
completely new mix. 
 
Also,, I must say that i'm disappointed with the soundtrack to the comic
book. with a few exceptions the c.d. sounds like outakes instead of fresh
material.  The Marco Passarani track is the obvious stand-out. And
Although,,, mills, walker,and the advent add some good tracks,, All together
they don't make a good soundtrack. 


 
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From: Mark S Flintoft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:52 PM
To: Brian 'balistic' Prince; Neil Wallace
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: [313] black water with vocals?


Duff vocal??  Frankly I quite like it and have played it out quite a bit

What is the general consensus on this though?  I am intrigued...

Cheers,

m*


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[313] CDs

2002-02-27 Thread Dan Sicko

This is a late reply to the thread about new CDs ...

Just wanted to mention there are reviews of the new Aardvarck album 
on Delsin and Tim Koch on deFocus up on www.techno-rebels.com


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Re: [313] titonton dj-set online ++ amsterdam

2002-02-27 Thread glyn
rsel wrote:

 just added a mix set from the man duvante, titonton
 http://www.rushhour.nl/broad.html

anybody know if there are any more/better quality encoded sets of
titonton's floating around?  his sets always know my proverbial socks
off.

glyn


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Re: [313] titonton dj-set online ++ amsterdam

2002-02-27 Thread yussel
yeah-

titonton is one of my favorites.

and i've never heard a recording that comes close to what he can do.

both times he's played for me the dats came out fucked, and the one mix
he's given me (double edged sword) just doesn't do him justice.


On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, glyn wrote:

 rsel wrote:

  just added a mix set from the man duvante, titonton
  http://www.rushhour.nl/broad.html

 anybody know if there are any more/better quality encoded sets of
 titonton's floating around?  his sets always know my proverbial socks
 off.

 glyn


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[313] ELECTRONICS, BODIES and PICTURES, SATURDAY MARCH 2nd 2002, ART SYSTEM TORONTO CANADA

2002-02-27 Thread Neil

An evening of
ELECTRONICS, BODIES and PICTURES
  dj   /   laptop geeks   /   performance art   /   video  

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9.00pm video pop chart: Open video screening bring your tapes 5min max

10.30pm live electronic music:
ohvov
the blameshifter
naw
  djs:
   skeeter
   neurotek

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SATURDAY MARCH 2nd 2002
at the  ART SYSTEM  327 Spadina Ave. Second Floor
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