[313] House songs so good they make you cry....
I weep for house a little easier: -Mr. Fingers: Can You Feel It -That Farley Bootleg of Candi Staton's "You've Got the Love" that is impossible to find -Herbert: It's Only -Soha: Les Enfants Du Bled -All of both NWAQ's on Delsin -Ron Trent: I Feel the Rhythm -Norma Jean Bell: Dreams -DSL: Soothe Your Soul -This damn track that I can't get ID'd: 1:42:40 into Seiji's set on the Betalounge from 7-26-01 -...and Ayro's "Let This" is creeping up there for me (OK, so maybe it isn't house). ;P Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
Sakari Karipuro wrote on Fri, 7 Jun 2002 about following: > oh well my list - > > model 500 - ocean to ocean (vocal mix) > rhythim is rhythim - icon lets add one - Sequential - Sequential (on rising high.. RSN 45) sakke -- "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." - Master Yoda, Star Wars Episode II - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Track ID
- Original Message - From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: [313] Track ID > > Vocals : "Detroit , Detroit , Detroit , etc.. " man's voice > Synth Line : Bubbling > Kick : 4/4 > > It's @ 36:40 on the shapeshifter mix - > http://www.urbansounds.com/us_current/mixes/mixes_1.html > > not a bad mix btw. The stream isn't working for me either, but it's most likely "The Vision" (pseudonym of Rob Hood). There are two versions, "Detroit: One Circle" and "Explain the Style", both on this 12" (Metroplex 025). Agreed, it's one of Hood's best (if not the best) and one of the best Detroit Techno tracks ever made. Circa '95 if I'm not mistaken. Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Damn, been on this list since the beginning and finally started a good thread!
Haha. I've been on this list since it started, and finally started a hot thread! Hey, I just posted this thread like an hour ago...look at all these responses! Keep them coming. Alot of them are familiar to me and also favorites...especially the soofle/choice cuts, galaxy to galaxy, the deepest shade of techno comp, ocean to ocean, ...yeah, oldschool FNAC ludovic navarre tracks...these are some great toons people. Some are new to me..I'll have to have a listen. Sterac "sitting on clouds" on 100% Pure definately does it for me... Model 500 "I wanna be there" almost does it for me... Rob Hood's Minimal Nation *should* bring on the tears, but it's too detached to do that ;-) Dr. Attaman (I'm a real medical physician now, finally graduated) :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
thanks for the topic jasonmuch needed ... my tear jerkers off the top of my head. 1. Sueno Latino (derrick may rmx) on creative\ 2. model 500 ocean to ocean (vocal mix) 3.Polartronics - The Deepon Transfusion 4.The Movement - Feeling of This on Transfusion 5.Artificial Intelligence 1 The Compilation on Warp michael www.renegaderhythms.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Rc wrote: > model 500 - mind changes yup, that one, Galaxy 2 Galaxy's "Journey of the Dragons" and R Tyme's "R Theme" would be mine. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] ambient songs so good they make you cry.
detroit escalator company-gathering light - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rhythm is Rhythm --"Crackdown" (Carl Craig Remix) Deep Contest -- "Sunday Morning" Metro Area --"Strut" >-- Original Message -- >From: "Lee Herrington IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <313@hyperreal.org> >Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:34:39 -0400 >Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry > > > > finally! a thread that reminds me why i became a 313 subscriber. > > yennek-dancing tides > eddie fowlkes-stella[aka lodge freeway] > project 625 aka claude young-come closer > psychedelic research lab-tarenah[the version on "deepest shade of techno"] >-Original Message- >From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 6:51 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry > > >Thursday, June 06, 2002, 2:32:35 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came: > >BD> i hate to say it, but cheeze/piano/kiddie choir hardcore/d-n-b classic >"the >BD> sound of music" by nookie" ... > >BD> " >BD> just close your eyes and dream with me / >BD> you'll hear the sound of music / >BD> m-ziik / >BD> muuu-zik! >BD> " > >DJ Funk does it for me everytime. > >"She had the kind of booty that I'd always remember." > >Indeed she did. > >*snif* > >- >Brian "balistic" Prince >http://www.bprince.com - art and techno >Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon. > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.big12inch.com House Music - Vinyl Records,CDs,Hard to Find Records - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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godd*mn great idea! if you it. shout it to the world. regards, lrh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 6:18 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry I'm going to make a mix with all these tunes listed and post it so the whole 313 list will being crying into their keyboards ;) MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
finally! a thread that reminds me why i became a 313 subscriber. yennek-dancing tides eddie fowlkes-stella[aka lodge freeway] project 625 aka claude young-come closer psychedelic research lab-tarenah[the version on "deepest shade of techno"] -Original Message- From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 6:51 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry Thursday, June 06, 2002, 2:32:35 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came: BD> i hate to say it, but cheeze/piano/kiddie choir hardcore/d-n-b classic "the BD> sound of music" by nookie" ... BD> " BD> just close your eyes and dream with me / BD> you'll hear the sound of music / BD> m-ziik / BD> muuu-zik! BD> " DJ Funk does it for me everytime. "She had the kind of booty that I'd always remember." Indeed she did. *snif* - Brian "balistic" Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
emmanuel top 'lobotomie' ow. ow. ouch. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] submerge.panel
Someone at the festival I met that went to this mentioned it would be online. Does anyone know when/where? Thanks, _Pete -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 6:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel Err, not the place really to debate this, but it depends on the technology. Technology is a tool. You can't point to a particular technology, excepting weapons systems that uniformlly gives advantage to the haves at the expense of the have-nots. I think (without having been there) that the Submerge panel were talking about technologies -- like the Internet and music software -- that has been enabling for musicians ... I'd like to hear more specific instances of where you thought the panelists were 'pro-technology' in a way that conflicts with your concern (which I share) with globalization. I have a hard time thinking Juan Atkins was singing the praises of genetically modified food crops and The Gap. But maybe we could discuss it in private e-mail. On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > yeah this is a little late but. > > > i was at the submerge panel saturday morning of demfit had a very "pro > technology" flavor to it...imo that is rather problematic since technology > has played a _large_ part in the rising levels of inequality both in the > united states (the income of the poorest 20 percent of households has > fallen in real terms by about 15 percent in the last 25 years) as well > as in developing countries (increases in technology have led to > globalization which has led to dramatic increases in inequity in > these countries)..i understand that the panelists were not there to > speak on such things but all of us have a responsiblity to understand > our place in the world > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
ron trent's "altered states" 2x12 on djax - the whole thing -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:07 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry Hey, I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan Curtin track "out of sight and mind." well, that last 2 minutes or so of it is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss. There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now. What songs do this to you? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF Recordings--> I WILL PAY MONEY
I am willing to pay for recordings of DEMF sets. Please reply privately. I am especially interested in Dave Clarke, Marco Carola, Bryan Zentz, the Sonic Groove crew tag-team set, Juan Atkins, Blake Baxter, Deepchord, Adam X, T-1000, the Aux Men, etc. -sam hobbs __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
model 500 - mind changes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] submerge.panel
Err, not the place really to debate this, but it depends on the technology. Technology is a tool. You can't point to a particular technology, excepting weapons systems that uniformlly gives advantage to the haves at the expense of the have-nots. I think (without having been there) that the Submerge panel were talking about technologies -- like the Internet and music software -- that has been enabling for musicians ... I'd like to hear more specific instances of where you thought the panelists were 'pro-technology' in a way that conflicts with your concern (which I share) with globalization. I have a hard time thinking Juan Atkins was singing the praises of genetically modified food crops and The Gap. But maybe we could discuss it in private e-mail. On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > yeah this is a little late but. > > > i was at the submerge panel saturday morning of demfit had a very "pro > technology" flavor to it...imo that is rather problematic since technology > has played a _large_ part in the rising levels of inequality both in the > united states (the income of the poorest 20 percent of households has > fallen in real terms by about 15 percent in the last 25 years) as well > as in developing countries (increases in technology have led to > globalization which has led to dramatic increases in inequity in > these countries)..i understand that the panelists were not there to > speak on such things but all of us have a responsiblity to understand > our place in the world > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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altered states. best record ever. never get bored of that tune. - Original Message - From: Arne Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 Mailing List <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:12 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry For me it's "Inspiration", the title track of the first Stasis album on Peacefrog (PF028)... shivers down my spine every time I hear it. Cheers, Arne -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°° - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
Infiniti "game one" Andrea Parker "Melodious Think" dbx "City at the edge of forever" Moloko "Sing it Back" (Herbert's rmx) word. Trevor Wilkes inyerear.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
I'm going to make a mix with all these tunes listed and post it so the whole 313 list will being crying into their keyboards ;) MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For me it's "Inspiration", the title track of the first Stasis album on Peacefrog (PF028)... shivers down my spine every time I hear it. Cheers, Arne -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°° - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
Jason wrote on Thu, 6 Jun 2002 about following: > Hey, > > I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan > Curtin track "out of sight and mind." well, that last 2 minutes or so of it imo best dan curtin ep ever, origins ep on metamorphic.. really wicked stuff. does anyone if there are any repressess? i've seen other metamorphic stuff available pretty often but not this one. and my copy is quite worn off. and possibly the most psychedelic label art on both sides on this one :) oh well my list - model 500 - ocean to ocean (vocal mix) rhythim is rhythim - icon .. from ocean to ocean there will be shining?.. new world is approaching.. nothing remains the same.. can you imagine a world where all men will be free.. you'll be you and i'll be me.. to be free to be free to be free.. sakke -- "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." - Master Yoda, Star Wars Episode II - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Infiniti "Game One" Bandulu "Guidance" Slam "Dark Forces" LFO "What is house?" Kraftwerk "Numbers/Computer World 2" just about anything off "Metaphor" by Kenny Larkin on 6/6/02 10:07 pm, Jason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey, > > I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan > Curtin track "out of sight and mind." well, that last 2 minutes or so of it > is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings > tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss. > > There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now. > > What songs do this to you? > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
> I would definitely advise you to aim for the lower numbers rather than > higher. From around vol 6 or so they started to go slightly bad, and the > latter volumes are better defined as early hip-hop than electro, imho! But > volumes 1-4, and the "Crucial Electro" spinoff, are well worth getting, with > classics like "Clear", "The Smurf", "Electric Kingdom", "Hip Hop Be Bop" all sorry, late on this thread, but i just wanted to say that some of the later numbers as well as the Crucial Electro ones were sort of more interesting for me. I already have a lot of the classics, but when you get into the later stuff there are some great gems that you wouldnt normally think to listen to.. so dont pass on them without a listen. p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
Thursday, June 06, 2002, 2:32:35 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came: BD> i hate to say it, but cheeze/piano/kiddie choir hardcore/d-n-b classic "the BD> sound of music" by nookie" ... BD> " BD> just close your eyes and dream with me / BD> you'll hear the sound of music / BD> m-ziik / BD> muuu-zik! BD> " DJ Funk does it for me everytime. "She had the kind of booty that I'd always remember." Indeed she did. *snif* - Brian "balistic" Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> J> What songs do this to you? Kosmic Messenger's Death March Stasis' Space and it's not Techno but the plaintive vocal in Joe Claussell's Je Ka Jo always gets me all weepy;-) Cheers, m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
i hate to say it, but cheeze/piano/kiddie choir hardcore/d-n-b classic "the sound of music" by nookie" ... " just close your eyes and dream with me / you'll hear the sound of music / m-ziik / muuu-zik! " -Original Message- From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:33 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry J> I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan J> Curtin track "out of sight and mind." well, that last 2 minutes or so of it J> is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings J> tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss. J> There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now. J> What songs do this to you? Claude Young "Gates of the Afterlife" Mad Mike "Voyage of the Dragons", "Inspiration" Schizophrenia "Schizophrenia" <-- who is this, by the way? Basic Channel "Radiance III edit" 3MB "Die Kosmichen Kuriere" (I probably mangled the spelling) - Brian "balistic" Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Original Message: There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now. What songs do this to you? i'll bite _i believe_ so soulful/touching/heartfelt/innocent this dnb song don't know the name has a refrain of "muusic is the melody, melody of life" with a guy talking in the background about a world w/o music..anyone know the name of this (btw it would be waay old) mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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J> I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan J> Curtin track "out of sight and mind." well, that last 2 minutes or so of it J> is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings J> tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss. J> There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now. J> What songs do this to you? Claude Young "Gates of the Afterlife" Mad Mike "Voyage of the Dragons", "Inspiration" Schizophrenia "Schizophrenia" <-- who is this, by the way? Basic Channel "Radiance III edit" 3MB "Die Kosmichen Kuriere" (I probably mangled the spelling) - Brian "balistic" Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Deepside "French" Soofle "How Do You Plead" Terrace "Midiology" 69 "desire" B12 "Hall Of Mirrors" Choice "Acid Eiffel" and that Global Comm / Link / Reload track, the sun and the sea (le soleil et la mer or something?) Need any more? :) W - Original Message - From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry > Hey, > > I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan > Curtin track "out of sight and mind." well, that last 2 minutes or so of it > is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings > tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss. > > There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now. > > What songs do this to you? > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. > Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
Hey, I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan Curtin track "out of sight and mind." well, that last 2 minutes or so of it is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss. There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now. What songs do this to you? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
I'm curious about that... any names to recommend ? Everyone needs to hear the following old electro tracks: Pretty Tony - Fix It In The Mix Freestyle - Jam The Box Freestyle - Don't Stop The Rock Planet Patrol - Play At Your Own Risk Captain Rapp - Bad Times Garrett's Crew - Nasty Rock Twilight 22 - Electric Kingdom A few other classics off the top of my head: Afrika Baambaataa - Looking for the Perfect Beat Hashim - Al Naafiysh (The Soul) Sexual Harassment - I Need A Freak The Unknown DJ - 808 Beats Model 500 - No UFOs Egyptian Lover - Egypt, Egypt JJ Fad - Supersonic Electro Empire (www.electroempire.com) is a good site to check out audio clips and get some history on the artists. Though some of the artists listed there fall more into the category of hip-hop than electro... but I'll leave categorizations to those who stock shelves in record stores. ;) g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] LANSING THIS SATURDAY w/Twonz, Carlos Souffront) (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:43:26 + From: joshua glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LANSING THIS SATURDAY w/Twonz, Carlos Souffront) Metamorphosis: 1. A transformation, as by magic or sorcery. 2. A marked change in a appearance, character, condition, or function. Lansing, MI June 8, 2002 ANTWON FAULKNER(a.k.a. Twonz) CARLOS SOUFFRONT MLE Another production brought to you by: Colourless Green Dreams, Inc. For more information, call Vinyl Addict Records @ 517.337.3121 or go to www.geocities.com/colourlessgreendreams Again? come to dance. Be prepared to sweat. Expect something special. But most of all? come to dance. Also, come help celebrate 28 years of living, learning, and experiencing reality? It?s my birthday! _troy _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] listen to records online
I've been shopping/snooping around online and found a old baby ford record (beach bump). does anyone know where you can listen to older records like this one. I only know of groovetech and they did not have it. anyone know of any others? scotto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
Sakari Karipuro wrote on Thu, 6 Jun 2002 about following: > immediately started asking for the cd-single and which shop i had bought btw, is there cd-single of it? i've only seen the fantasy records 12" sakke -- "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." - Master Yoda, Star Wars Episode II - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 6 Jun 2002 about following: > Can I plug my electro mix now? :) > > It's at: http://www.brelson.com/music_mx_electro2.html and features some > fairly obvious tracks - mainly made for people who are unfamiliar > with the genre, .. and looks like a good mix to download. "clear" is just soo beautiful track. i played the track for bunch of people and they immediately started asking for the cd-single and which shop i had bought it. :) i should have had taken a pic of their faces when i told them its "pretty old". all the other tracks are hot too... oh btw "industrial lies" on b-side of "clear" is pretty cool track too - definitely crosses over electro and industrial ! (but that was another already dead thread) sakke -- "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." - Master Yoda, Star Wars Episode II - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Please - if you get a chance go see the movie "Scratch" because 1) it's >very entertaining, 2)it's very educational, and 3) it's very inspirational. yes, i saw this last night and it was VERY inspirational. tom andythepooh.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 6 Jun 2002 about following: > everyone remembers breakdancing and electroboogie, which leads us to > electro (nevermind rap/hip-hop,< > > nevermind rap/hip-hop?! > > Electo *is* hip-hop! Electro, rapping, graffiti, > bodypopping/locking/rocking (usually called breakdancing), turntablism - > it's all part of the same family! Yes I am well aware of this. but does the "mainstream" know it? i bet many don't. Not everybody are interested as much as we are in electronic music culture. for the mainstream crowd its another new "trend" and they just go by it, then comes another. they don't care about its history or roots. which is sort of sad. sakke -- "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." - Master Yoda, Star Wars Episode II - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
Can I plug my electro mix now? :) It's at: http://www.brelson.com/music_mx_electro2.html and features some fairly obvious tracks - mainly made for people who are unfamiliar with the genre, so you get "Tour De France", "Clear" and "Trans Europe Express", but you also get Pretty Tony and Captain Rock, and overenthusiastic commentary on every track... Brendan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 June 2002 18:04 > To: Sakari Karipuro > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] Re: electro is "trendy" > > > > >1980's seem to be trendy now, so all things 80's is hot.< > > 80's style/influenced New Wave is hot > > >then again, techno isn't different enough from current pop/mainstream > dance to make > itself interesting. but electro is. with broken rhythms and > things. and > everyone remembers breakdancing and electroboogie, which leads us to > electro (nevermind rap/hip-hop,< > > nevermind rap/hip-hop?! > > Electo *is* hip-hop! Electro, rapping, graffiti, > bodypopping/locking/rocking (usually called breakdancing), > turntablism - > it's all part of the same family! > That's what bugs me about the new wave sh*t being called > electro - it's > like calling Blondie a hip-hop artist just because she rapped > very poorly > about Fab 5 Freddie! > > Please - if you get a chance go see the movie "Scratch" > because 1) it's > very entertaining, 2)it's very educational, and 3) it's very > inspirational. > > MEK > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] submerge.panel
I'm one of the first people who jumped onto this thread. When I did, I changed my subject line to OT: Globalization [was: sumberge.panel]. In most of my posts on the subject, I have brought the thread back to Detroit and to Detroit music. I fail to see how this relatively novel thread - which I believe is very relevant to 313 music - is so horrific that it sends people off the list, but a few gibbering Hawtin fanboys tossing back and forth the same arguments we hear every three months is "on-topic" and oh so relevant. I have to delete entire threads on this list all of the time. I suggest people who find a thread offensive should do the same, and refrain from complaining about it. Complaints about list content are the most OT thread of all. Brian -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:20 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel sorry David, BUT, from the very source you quote: "Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply in private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical." Im not nitpicking, but if you reference a text to prove your point, I'll tend to hold you to that text pretty firmly, at least initially. so yes, 313 is unmoderated, but IMO it should be since it wanders off topic enough for people to jump ship (Mike Taylor?) of course, we could argue semantics all day long. back to detroit techno back to my cage, -Joe - Original Message - From: "David Bate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel > >From what I understand, this is a self moderated list. From the list > guidelines: > > http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ > > Regarding Content and Community > > 313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313 list > members to 'self-police' 313 using the mechanisms described above. After five > plus years 313 has become a community and should be thought of as such. Like > any community (Detroit included) 313 is only as strong as every member makes it. > > In that spirit we ask you respect the following principles: > >Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing > fodder. >List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespective and > disruptive >behavior will not be tolerated. >List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using > 313 as >chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing for > off-topic, >or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line in no > way >excuses you from adhering to this rule. >Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity (and, > yes, >this has happened in past). >Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private > email >and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of > an original >copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Arguments >belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313, check > your >'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending out > email - it >may save you more embarassment than you thought possible. >Try not to swear. More and more corporate sites are using profanity >firewalls resulting in fellow 313 subscribers behind those firewalls > mis > > :P wrote: > > > this list desperately needs moderation > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:31 AM > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18 > > > > > > > > LKS> how would you measure this? > > > > > > > > BBP> Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et > > cetera. > > > > > > > > > > > > uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most > > > > technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these > > > > statistics because it's not > > > > > > Ah, but is the US the most technologically advanced country in the world > > > anyway? It probably isn't you know. It's a very diverse place and as you > > > say, inner city areas as well as remote rural backwaters aren't very > > > technologically advanced places. Countries like Finland, Norway or Japan > > are > > > arguably more technologically advanced all in all. But there aren't many > > > metrics for measuring the technological advancement of a particular > > nation, > > > in the same way as we use literacy, mortality rates, etc, to measure >
Re: [313] submerge.panel
Could you point to where I had reposted private email to 313? Also, like wise, I don't remeber replying to a private email and cc'ing 313. I believe that I replied to a posting that on the 313 list. I don't mind being held to my point, but I don't see where that is happening. I never recieved any private email. From what I read (could be wrong), replying to a public 313 posting, and including the original sender isn't against those suggestions. And as for people dropping ship, it happens all the time. I'd have to say I've unsubscribed over 20 times myself since 1995 or so. But if one wishes to participate in discussions of Detroit based music, it's worth hitting the delete button from my point of view.If I don't have time in my life to deal with some of the drama that always surrounds people who are passionate around music (and what that music is attempting to protray), then I unsubscribe. I agree ... on to Discussions on Detroit Techno but I personally, agree that this list should stay unmoderated in regards to 1 person being the end all for what can and can't be on the list. List moderation , an actual single moderator, develops more of a community spirit then a dictorship. Dave :P wrote: > sorry David, BUT, from the very source you quote: > > "Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply in private email > and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an > original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical." > > Im not nitpicking, but if you reference a text to prove your point, I'll > tend to hold you to that text pretty firmly, at least initially. > > so yes, 313 is unmoderated, but IMO it should be since it wanders off topic > enough for people to jump ship (Mike Taylor?) > > of course, we could argue semantics all day long. back to detroit techno > > back to my cage, > -Joe > > - Original Message - > From: "David Bate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel > > > >From what I understand, this is a self moderated list. From the list > > guidelines: > > > > http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ > > > > Regarding Content and Community > > > > 313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313 > list > > members to 'self-police' 313 using the mechanisms described above. After > five > > plus years 313 has become a community and should be thought of as such. > Like > > any community (Detroit included) 313 is only as strong as every member > makes it. > > > > In that spirit we ask you respect the following principles: > > > >Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not > marketing > > fodder. > >List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespective > and > > disruptive > >behavior will not be tolerated. > >List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, > using > > 313 as > >chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing > for > > off-topic, > >or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line > in no > > way > >excuses you from adhering to this rule. > >Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity > (and, > > yes, > >this has happened in past). > >Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to > private > > email > >and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the > reproduction of > > an original > >copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. > Arguments > >belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313, > check > > your > >'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending > out > > email - it > >may save you more embarassment than you thought possible. > >Try not to swear. More and more corporate sites are using > profanity > >firewalls resulting in fellow 313 subscribers behind those > firewalls > > mis > > > > :P wrote: > > > > > this list desperately needs moderation > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:31 AM > > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18 > > > > > > > > > > LKS> how would you measure this? > > > > > > > > > > BBP> Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et > > > cetera. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most > > > > > technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these > > > > > statistics because it's not > > > > > > > > Ah, but is the US the most te
Re: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
>1980's seem to be trendy now, so all things 80's is hot.< 80's style/influenced New Wave is hot >then again, techno isn't different enough from current pop/mainstream dance to make itself interesting. but electro is. with broken rhythms and things. and everyone remembers breakdancing and electroboogie, which leads us to electro (nevermind rap/hip-hop,< nevermind rap/hip-hop?! Electo *is* hip-hop! Electro, rapping, graffiti, bodypopping/locking/rocking (usually called breakdancing), turntablism - it's all part of the same family! That's what bugs me about the new wave sh*t being called electro - it's like calling Blondie a hip-hop artist just because she rapped very poorly about Fab 5 Freddie! Please - if you get a chance go see the movie "Scratch" because 1) it's very entertaining, 2)it's very educational, and 3) it's very inspirational. MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Track ID
Oh my god isn't that the sickest track ! - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 > -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2002 12:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Track ID > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 06 June 2002 17:06 > > > > can't go and listen to the mix at the moment, but from the > > descripiton it > > sounds like The Vision - Detroit (One Circle) on Metroplex. > > I just listened to the mix, and Sean is correct! Metroplex 25 is the > catalogue number (and "Explain the Style", on the flip, is Hood's greatest > moment imo)... > > Brendan > > > Legal Disclaimer > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete > this e-mail from your system. > mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or > incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required > please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for > informational purposes only. > our website at: http://www.widelearning.com > > Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: > 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB > Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Track ID
Right ! The Vision. Exactly. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 > -- > From: Sean Creen > Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2002 12:05 PM > To: Grammenos, Peter > Cc: 313 mailing list > Subject: RE: [313] Track ID > > can't go and listen to the mix at the moment, but from the descripiton it > sounds like The Vision - Detroit (One Circle) on Metroplex. > > Sean. > > -Original Message- > From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 June 2002 17:02 > To: '313@hyperreal.org' > Subject: [313] Track ID > > > > Vocals : "Detroit , Detroit , Detroit , etc.. " man's voice > Synth Line : Bubbling > Kick : 4/4 > > It's @ 36:40 on the shapeshifter mix - > http://www.urbansounds.com/us_current/mixes/mixes_1.html > > not a bad mix btw. > > Thanks, > -Pete > > --- > Peter Grammenos > Goldman Sachs & Co. > Tel : 212.902.2446 > --- > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Track ID
Sounds to me like a Metroplex by Rob Hood from way back. Black label, I have it at home but can't remember the title. Anyone? - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 > -- > From: Grammenos, Peter > Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2002 12:02 PM > To: '313@hyperreal.org' > Subject: [313] Track ID > > > Vocals : "Detroit , Detroit , Detroit , etc.. " man's voice > Synth Line : Bubbling > Kick : 4/4 > > It's @ 36:40 on the shapeshifter mix - > http://www.urbansounds.com/us_current/mixes/mixes_1.html > > not a bad mix btw. > > Thanks, > -Pete > > --- > Peter Grammenos > Goldman Sachs & Co. > Tel : 212.902.2446 > --- > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Track ID
this track is probably my favourite ever - it just doesnt get any cooler unfortunately i dont know the name! but its rob hood off the vision ep on metroplex neil :-Original Message- :From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:02 PM :To: '313@hyperreal.org' :Subject: [313] Track ID : : : :Vocals : "Detroit , Detroit , Detroit , etc.. " man's voice :Synth Line : Bubbling :Kick : 4/4 : :It's @ 36:40 on the shapeshifter mix - :http://www.urbansounds.com/us_current/mixes/mixes_1.html : :not a bad mix btw. : :Thanks, :-Pete : :--- :Peter Grammenos :Goldman Sachs & Co. :Tel : 212.902.2446 :--- : : : :- :To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Track ID
> -Original Message- > From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 June 2002 17:06 > > can't go and listen to the mix at the moment, but from the > descripiton it > sounds like The Vision - Detroit (One Circle) on Metroplex. I just listened to the mix, and Sean is correct! Metroplex 25 is the catalogue number (and "Explain the Style", on the flip, is Hood's greatest moment imo)... Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
:> > And I can remember the "electro revival of 1994", where all :> > the StreetSounds : :> question 1 : are these comp really interesting ? what volume :> should I start with ? : :I would definitely advise you to aim for the lower numbers rather than :higher. From around vol 6 or so they started to go slightly bad, and the :latter volumes are better defined as early hip-hop than electro, imho! But :volumes 1-4, and the "Crucial Electro" spinoff, are well worth :getting, with :classics like "Clear", "The Smurf", "Electric Kingdom", "Hip Hop :Be Bop" all :making an appearance. And, as I have a weakness for Captain Rock, I find :them particularly indispensable :) i have a couple (around number 4 i think) the only problem is as far is remember the tracks are not exactly mixed but certainly blended together which can sometimes make it tricky to get the first beat clean - dunno if this is true of all the series. i think one of mine has egyptian lover and breakin in space - nice! neeil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Track ID
can't go and listen to the mix at the moment, but from the descripiton it sounds like The Vision - Detroit (One Circle) on Metroplex. Sean. -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 June 2002 17:02 To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Track ID Vocals : "Detroit , Detroit , Detroit , etc.. " man's voice Synth Line : Bubbling Kick : 4/4 It's @ 36:40 on the shapeshifter mix - http://www.urbansounds.com/us_current/mixes/mixes_1.html not a bad mix btw. Thanks, -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs & Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Track ID
Vocals : "Detroit , Detroit , Detroit , etc.. " man's voice Synth Line : Bubbling Kick : 4/4 It's @ 36:40 on the shapeshifter mix - http://www.urbansounds.com/us_current/mixes/mixes_1.html not a bad mix btw. Thanks, -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs & Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
> -Original Message- > From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 June 2002 16:15 > > > And I can remember the "electro revival of 1994", where all > > the StreetSounds > question 1 : are these comp really interesting ? what volume > should I start with ? I would definitely advise you to aim for the lower numbers rather than higher. From around vol 6 or so they started to go slightly bad, and the latter volumes are better defined as early hip-hop than electro, imho! But volumes 1-4, and the "Crucial Electro" spinoff, are well worth getting, with classics like "Clear", "The Smurf", "Electric Kingdom", "Hip Hop Be Bop" all making an appearance. And, as I have a weakness for Captain Rock, I find them particularly indispensable :) > I didn't know that story about how the label was founded... > what is this > label's situation BTW ? as far as I know it went out of > business years ago, > but some records are still available, I think I saw a new > comp recently ??? Not sure about any Clear compilations, but I worked in Ambient Soho at the time so was fairly close to the whole process. It was the dying years of the ambient boom in London, and we were all looking for new musical pastures to go and graze in; I flew off towards Detroit techno, others went to 'trip-hop', others to 'intelligent drum'n'bass', and Clair was leading the contingent who were heading in the direction of electro. We were all dropping lots of electro in ambient sets at the time, and we had some copies of "Rockit" in the shop which were selling like hot cakes. Clair wanted to run an electro label, and had the concept of Clear in her head, and so a bunch of people from Autechre (Sean also worked in the shop around that time) to Seefeel to Reload all produced some electro tracks from which she culled the first few releases. I think it turned out to be more successful than even she was expecting it to be! I was asked to make some electro tracks too (I used to do some relatively high-profile ambient PAs) but never got around to it. I think I missed out on a major opportunity there! As Tom mentioned, Clair is now running another label, deFocus, alongside an ex-313er by name of Simon Walley (aka [CiM])... > I'm curious about that... any names to recommend ? Everyone needs to hear the following old electro tracks: Pretty Tony - Fix It In The Mix Freestyle - Jam The Box Freestyle - Don't Stop The Rock Planet Patrol - Play At Your Own Risk Captain Rapp - Bad Times Garrett's Crew - Nasty Rock Twilight 22 - Electric Kingdom They're certainly the tracks that work the most magic on me, but for some reason they're not as common as many of the others. "Nasty Rock" and "Bad Times" in particular are bloody amazing... Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Radioboy/globalisation, ON topic again even... (was sub merge.panel)
>And to get this thread back on topic, it seems like Radioboy, >who performed >at the planet e party, is very consciously making his performance a >commentary on the negative aspects of the corporate aspects of >globalisation. I saw radioboy live for the first time at the metropolis screening in london the other month. I have to say from a personal viewpoint I think his whole 'anti-capitalism' slant detracted from what was otherwise a fascinating and interesting performance. Fair enough I see his point and am not saying it is right/wrong, but I found the whole ripping up specifically gap/McD's/starbucks/... products a little on the patronising side. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
> Clear is definitely no longer in business (what was the comp > you saw?), but I don't remember, but these were all classic Clear tracks (most of which I already have elsewhere, so I didn't buy it); all I know is that it wasn't "everything is becoming" or "twisted love songs" > Clair went on to start the deFocus label a few years ago: > http://www.defocusrecords.co.uk I didn't know the connection between the 2 - that explains a lot about the quality of the releases on deFocus ! Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 6 Jun 2002 about following: > I love how people still consider electro "trendy." > Funny cos it's been looked at this way since '96 or so. thats what i've been thinking. actually electro never went away.. check early UR/red planet stuff for example. > Also, how people call electro "retro" or "80s" > but never label techno this way. > Funny, cos the root-shaping of BOTH of these subgenres took place in the > 80s in one way or another. 1980's seem to be trendy now, so all things 80's is hot. then again, techno isn't different enough from current pop/mainstream dance to make itself interesting. but electro is. with broken rhythms and things. and everyone remembers breakdancing and electroboogie, which leads us to electro (nevermind rap/hip-hop, its nothing interesting, because it is all the time on lists still) sakke -- "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." - Master Yoda, Star Wars Episode II - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel
>> globalisation; on one hand, you get Starbucks, McDonalds, and other >sterile >> forces hmm burgers hmm coffee ;) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
> I didn't know that story about how the label was founded... what is this > label's situation BTW ? as far as I know it went out of business years ago, > but some records are still available, I think I saw a new comp recently ??? Clear is definitely no longer in business (what was the comp you saw?), but Clair went on to start the deFocus label a few years ago: http://www.defocusrecords.co.uk Cheers, Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] New Starbaby
At 11:17 -0400 06-06-2002, Rob Theakston wrote: Top stuff, deep techno with the kind of dark brooding basslines that Carl Craig would have been proud of. When did Carl die? He died of laughter of reading the Carol Marvin interview i suppose :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] London List Party...
cool cool no probs - just wasnt sure if they been put up but Id missed the posting :) cheers, Marc >-Original Message- >From: Nic Larsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:05 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [313] London List Party... > > > >Marc/UK-313. > >Not sure about the pics but the MD's still need to be recorded >and converted. Rob's given me about 4 weeks to get them >encoded, then we'll load 'em up. > >Cheers, > >Nic > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 06 June 2002 15:47 >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: [313] London List Party... >> >> >> Cant remem who recorded the party but is there any sign of >the mixes / >> pics >> on the web yet ? Ive been out of the loop for a while so Im >not sure if >> Ive >> missed a posting or anything >> >> cheers, >> Marc > > > >-- -- >Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com > >Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be >the views of Reuters Ltd. > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Radioboy/globalisation, ON topic again even... (was submerge.panel)
And to get this thread back on topic, it seems like Radioboy, who performed at the planet e party, is very consciously making his performance a commentary on the negative aspects of the corporate aspects of globalisation. The website that goes with his CD has some very good info on that note. My question is, are there any other musisicians that formulate their music as a response to what is going on now? Offhand I think cover of the UR Ambush record has some relevance: "You've been waiting for your adventure vacation all year and now your finally headed up river and your gonna have fun regardless of the poverty, corruption, political unrest, fragile ECO systems and reports of rebel forces in the area. After all it's your god given right to have fun all over the world wherever you please right? ... Finally they appear their war painted faces staring. Didn't the missionaries teach them this is wrong? You feel the power of their God thru their eyes, it is the jungle itself. one of the hostiles wears an old shirt that reads "UR unexploitable". Your imminent destiny calls and as with all pollutants UR consumed by nature as she punishes her children who cannot dance to her drums." Any other ideas? /dave Paul Virilio: "Resistance is always possible! But we must engage in resistance first of all by developing the idea of a technological culture. However, at the present time, this idea is grossly underdeveloped. For example, we have developed an artistic and a literary culture. Nevertheless, the ideals of technological culture remain underdeveloped and therefore outside of popular culture and the practical ideals of democracy. This is also why society as a whole has no control over technological developments. And this is one of the gravest threats to democracy in the near future. " _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] submerge.panel
sorry David, BUT, from the very source you quote: "Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply in private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical." Im not nitpicking, but if you reference a text to prove your point, I'll tend to hold you to that text pretty firmly, at least initially. so yes, 313 is unmoderated, but IMO it should be since it wanders off topic enough for people to jump ship (Mike Taylor?) of course, we could argue semantics all day long. back to detroit techno back to my cage, -Joe - Original Message - From: "David Bate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel > >From what I understand, this is a self moderated list. From the list > guidelines: > > http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ > > Regarding Content and Community > > 313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313 list > members to 'self-police' 313 using the mechanisms described above. After five > plus years 313 has become a community and should be thought of as such. Like > any community (Detroit included) 313 is only as strong as every member makes it. > > In that spirit we ask you respect the following principles: > >Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing > fodder. >List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespective and > disruptive >behavior will not be tolerated. >List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using > 313 as >chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing for > off-topic, >or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line in no > way >excuses you from adhering to this rule. >Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity (and, > yes, >this has happened in past). >Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private > email >and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of > an original >copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Arguments >belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313, check > your >'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending out > email - it >may save you more embarassment than you thought possible. >Try not to swear. More and more corporate sites are using profanity >firewalls resulting in fellow 313 subscribers behind those firewalls > mis > > :P wrote: > > > this list desperately needs moderation > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:31 AM > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18 > > > > > > > > LKS> how would you measure this? > > > > > > > > BBP> Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et > > cetera. > > > > > > > > > > > > uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most > > > > technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these > > > > statistics because it's not > > > > > > Ah, but is the US the most technologically advanced country in the world > > > anyway? It probably isn't you know. It's a very diverse place and as you > > > say, inner city areas as well as remote rural backwaters aren't very > > > technologically advanced places. Countries like Finland, Norway or Japan > > are > > > arguably more technologically advanced all in all. But there aren't many > > > metrics for measuring the technological advancement of a particular > > nation, > > > in the same way as we use literacy, mortality rates, etc, to measure > > overall > > > standard of living. > > > > > > But ultimately I don't think it impacts on techno music all in all. What > > > stance should UR or Submerge take on this issue? Should the process of > > > globalisation be stopped, so that records can't be exported to the rest of > > > the world? Does techno music pose the dangerous risk of homogenising > > > European culture? To me, techno is one of the *good* things about > > > globalisation; on one hand, you get Starbucks, McDonalds, and other > > sterile > > > forces spreading throughout the globe. But on the other hand, you get new > > > cultural phenomena, like techno, which are not geographically specific, > > and > > > allow people of diverse backgrounds and ideologies relate to one another > > and > > > feel part of the greater whole. > > > > > > Brendan > > > > > > > > > Legal Disclaimer > > > > > > This message contains confidential information and i
RE: [313] 'hard techno'
let's not forget that weird mexican/polka stuff either. now that's a genre i just can't get my head around. -Original Message- From: Fixer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] 'hard techno' Most music stays in it's semi-closed circles. Accordian music is very very common in a lot of Europe, especially here in Ireland, which then fed American bluegrass/appalachian music as well as cajun/zydeco. You always have to look for things, it can't all come to you on it's own. > "hard techno will never die as long as there > are kids who want to dance." > > like folk music on an accordian? it's still there, you got to look > though. > -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] London List Party...
Marc: > Cant remem who recorded the party but is there any sign of the mixes / > pics > on the web yet ? Ive been out of the loop for a while so Im not sure if > Ive > missed a posting or anything then Nic: Not sure about the pics but the MD's still need to be recorded and converted. Rob's given me about 4 weeks to get them encoded, then we'll load 'em up. some of the pictures i took have been developed, and there are a few more to follow. i haven't scanned any of them in yet - unfortunately i've got a lot on my plate at the minute - but i'm hoping to get it done by the end of the month. i'll send out an email when the pics and mixes are up on the web. cheers rob _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] New Starbaby
Top stuff, deep techno with the kind of dark brooding basslines that Carl Craig would have been proud of. When did Carl die? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] submerge.panel
>From what I understand, this is a self moderated list. From the list guidelines: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ Regarding Content and Community 313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313 list members to 'self-police' 313 using the mechanisms described above. After five plus years 313 has become a community and should be thought of as such. Like any community (Detroit included) 313 is only as strong as every member makes it. In that spirit we ask you respect the following principles: Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing fodder. List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespective and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using 313 as chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing for off-topic, or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line in no way excuses you from adhering to this rule. Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity (and, yes, this has happened in past). Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Arguments belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313, check your 'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending out email - it may save you more embarassment than you thought possible. Try not to swear. More and more corporate sites are using profanity firewalls resulting in fellow 313 subscribers behind those firewalls mis :P wrote: > this list desperately needs moderation > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:31 AM > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18 > > > > > > LKS> how would you measure this? > > > > > > BBP> Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et > cetera. > > > > > > > > > uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most > > > technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these > > > statistics because it's not > > > > Ah, but is the US the most technologically advanced country in the world > > anyway? It probably isn't you know. It's a very diverse place and as you > > say, inner city areas as well as remote rural backwaters aren't very > > technologically advanced places. Countries like Finland, Norway or Japan > are > > arguably more technologically advanced all in all. But there aren't many > > metrics for measuring the technological advancement of a particular > nation, > > in the same way as we use literacy, mortality rates, etc, to measure > overall > > standard of living. > > > > But ultimately I don't think it impacts on techno music all in all. What > > stance should UR or Submerge take on this issue? Should the process of > > globalisation be stopped, so that records can't be exported to the rest of > > the world? Does techno music pose the dangerous risk of homogenising > > European culture? To me, techno is one of the *good* things about > > globalisation; on one hand, you get Starbucks, McDonalds, and other > sterile > > forces spreading throughout the globe. But on the other hand, you get new > > cultural phenomena, like techno, which are not geographically specific, > and > > allow people of diverse backgrounds and ideologies relate to one another > and > > feel part of the greater whole. > > > > Brendan > > > > > > Legal Disclaimer > > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and > delete > > this e-mail from your system. > > mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late > or > > incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept > > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that > > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required > > please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for > > informational purposes only. > > our website at: http://www.widelearning.com > > > > Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: > > 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB > > Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 > > > > > > --
RE: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
> And I can remember the "electro revival of 1994", where all > the StreetSounds question 1 : are these comp really interesting ? what volume should I start with ? > compilations suddenly shot up in price around London, Clair > (who worked in > Ambient Soho at the time) decided to launch the Clear label > (she was asking > everyone to start making electro tracks, and it's that burst > of activity > that led to things like Gescom, Jedi Knights, etc etc). I didn't know that story about how the label was founded... what is this label's situation BTW ? as far as I know it went out of business years ago, but some records are still available, I think I saw a new comp recently ??? > charting. And there's > lots of old electro many people have yet to discover - the > Pandisc material, > Captain Rapp, Garrett's Crew, etc etc. I don't think many people are > actively rejecting electro as a result of the recent hype, anyway... I'm curious about that... any names to recommend ? Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] London List Party...
Marc/UK-313. Not sure about the pics but the MD's still need to be recorded and converted. Rob's given me about 4 weeks to get them encoded, then we'll load 'em up. Cheers, Nic > -Original Message- > From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 June 2002 15:47 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] London List Party... > > > Cant remem who recorded the party but is there any sign of the mixes / > pics > on the web yet ? Ive been out of the loop for a while so Im not sure if > Ive > missed a posting or anything > > cheers, > Marc -- -- Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] New Starbaby
Hi Keep your ears open for the new Starbaby 12 by listmember Arne Weinberg. Top stuff, deep techno with the kind of dark brooding basslines that Carl Craig would have been proud of. Its got a fairly good Fabrice Lig mix on there too. I know Arne has been waiting for this to come out for an eternity so definatly worth checking if you get the chance. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: electro is "trendy"
> -Original Message- > From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 June 2002 15:48 > > I remember back when there was the "electro revival of 1995." And I can remember the "electro revival of 1994", where all the StreetSounds compilations suddenly shot up in price around London, Clair (who worked in Ambient Soho at the time) decided to launch the Clear label (she was asking everyone to start making electro tracks, and it's that burst of activity that led to things like Gescom, Jedi Knights, etc etc). But basically electro is a continually evolving scene, as that allmusic.com essay posted yesterday made clear. To the wider world it was seen as an early-80s phenomenon, but it actually wasn't. Similar to techno, which obviously didn't die once Inner City singles stopped charting. And there's lots of old electro many people have yet to discover - the Pandisc material, Captain Rapp, Garrett's Crew, etc etc. I don't think many people are actively rejecting electro as a result of the recent hype, anyway... Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] new Viewlexx
> anyone heard. > > Viewlexx V005: V/A - We Still Kill The Old Way (Pt II The > Double double Cross) Yeah i heard this one, two tracks are really great. There is a classic from Alden Tyrell. I liked it a lot, better then his previous 12" Also the Duplex track is extremly deep. Not really dancefloor material but so beautifull. There are three other tracks on it which are, to me, a bit boring. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Viewlexx V006: If - Space Invaders Revenge > Viewlexx V007: CASCO - Cybernetic Love > > jd > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: new Viewlexx
Viewlexx V005: V/A - We Still Kill The Old Way (Pt II The Double double Cross) Best electro release in quite a while, been singing the praises of this comp for the last month and a half. Buy it. Viewlexx V006: If - Space Invaders Revenge Viewlexx V007: CASCO - Cybernetic Don't know but been waiting to hear on this. Scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: electro is "trendy"
I remember back when there was the "electro revival of 1995." And then Drexciya came out with the "Return of Drexciya" on UR. As far as I remember Drexciya had come out with at least one record every year since 91. Now there's the "electro revival of 2002." But as to the trendiness of electro, being in NY I can say that is has become NYC-trendy. My "trendy" friends have been asking me for mix tapes for the first time since the last Basement Jaxx album came out. There have been articles in all of the "trendy" NYC papers and magazines about "electroclash," Adult., Miss Kittin and the Hacker, etc. At 10:34 AM 6/6/2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love how people still consider electro "trendy." Funny cos it's been looked at this way since '96 or so. Also, how people call electro "retro" or "80s" but never label techno this way. Funny, cos the root-shaping of BOTH of these subgenres took place in the 80s in one way or another. Electriyin Mojo was never afraid to jump across genres, and he was definetly revolutionary. I like classic techno as much as the next person, but I cant disgard electro by calling it "trendy" and pushing it aside. I never understood this whole philosophy. -j ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Sakari Karipuro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, termi.net><313@hyperreal.org> cc: 06/05/02 10:04 Subject: Re: [313] Techno/Industrial (was Re: [313] Does anyone compare AMto Hawtin?) nope, the immediate future is electro and micro*.* both are considered trendy among those who need to be trendy to be part of something -Joe - Original Message - From: "Sakari Karipuro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [313] Techno/Industrial (was Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?) > Ian wrote on Wed, 5 Jun 2002 about following: > > > That said, I'm waiting for the EBM revival to rise out of this > > "electro-clash" business. Front 242/Nitzer Ebb cover band, anyone? > > actually front 242 instrumentals (although i definitely like the > vocal versions) are pretty good mixing stuff.. straigth beats and > whatnot. > > anyway, as we've seen genres come and go - what do you people think, > will acidhouse be next big thing? there has been some hints about it > already in this list - and perhaps hip-house quite quickly after that.. > :) > > > sakke, waiting for the youngsters to find out FLA - Mindphaser :) > -- > "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." > - Master Yoda, Star Wars Episode II > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] London List Party...
Cant remem who recorded the party but is there any sign of the mixes / pics on the web yet ? Ive been out of the loop for a while so Im not sure if Ive missed a posting or anything cheers, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] new Viewlexx
anyone heard. Viewlexx V005: V/A - We Still Kill The Old Way (Pt II The Double double Cross) Viewlexx V006: If - Space Invaders Revenge Viewlexx V007: CASCO - Cybernetic Love jd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel
this list desperately needs moderation - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18 > > > > LKS> how would you measure this? > > > > BBP> Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et cetera. > > > > > > uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most > > technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these > > statistics because it's not > > Ah, but is the US the most technologically advanced country in the world > anyway? It probably isn't you know. It's a very diverse place and as you > say, inner city areas as well as remote rural backwaters aren't very > technologically advanced places. Countries like Finland, Norway or Japan are > arguably more technologically advanced all in all. But there aren't many > metrics for measuring the technological advancement of a particular nation, > in the same way as we use literacy, mortality rates, etc, to measure overall > standard of living. > > But ultimately I don't think it impacts on techno music all in all. What > stance should UR or Submerge take on this issue? Should the process of > globalisation be stopped, so that records can't be exported to the rest of > the world? Does techno music pose the dangerous risk of homogenising > European culture? To me, techno is one of the *good* things about > globalisation; on one hand, you get Starbucks, McDonalds, and other sterile > forces spreading throughout the globe. But on the other hand, you get new > cultural phenomena, like techno, which are not geographically specific, and > allow people of diverse backgrounds and ideologies relate to one another and > feel part of the greater whole. > > Brendan > > > Legal Disclaimer > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete > this e-mail from your system. > mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or > incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required > please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for > informational purposes only. > our website at: http://www.widelearning.com > > Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: > 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB > Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons ==> >
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 02:21 AM, Langsman, Marc wrote: yeah I heard it was gonna be shipped on a bootable cd , so presumable it would be pretty simple for them to make it self installing etc. I take it there will be separate mac and pc versions with powerpc / ix86 kernels ? I cant see that being much work for them - especially if the code uses standard OSS/ALSA libraries it should be pretty portable. probably/maybe. but it's just as likely that they may get it to run on osx natively. ...osx being the greatest thing since sliced bread. ;) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: electro is "trendy"
I love how people still consider electro "trendy." Funny cos it's been looked at this way since '96 or so. Also, how people call electro "retro" or "80s" but never label techno this way. Funny, cos the root-shaping of BOTH of these subgenres took place in the 80s in one way or another. Electriyin Mojo was never afraid to jump across genres, and he was definetly revolutionary. I like classic techno as much as the next person, but I cant disgard electro by calling it "trendy" and pushing it aside. I never understood this whole philosophy. -j ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Sakari Karipuro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, termi.net><313@hyperreal.org> cc: 06/05/02 10:04 Subject: Re: [313] Techno/Industrial (was Re: [313] Does anyone compare AMto Hawtin?) nope, the immediate future is electro and micro*.* both are considered trendy among those who need to be trendy to be part of something -Joe - Original Message - From: "Sakari Karipuro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [313] Techno/Industrial (was Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?) > Ian wrote on Wed, 5 Jun 2002 about following: > > > That said, I'm waiting for the EBM revival to rise out of this > > "electro-clash" business. Front 242/Nitzer Ebb cover band, anyone? > > actually front 242 instrumentals (although i definitely like the > vocal versions) are pretty good mixing stuff.. straigth beats and > whatnot. > > anyway, as we've seen genres come and go - what do you people think, > will acidhouse be next big thing? there has been some hints about it > already in this list - and perhaps hip-house quite quickly after that.. > :) > > > sakke, waiting for the youngsters to find out FLA - Mindphaser :) > -- > "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." > - Master Yoda, Star Wars Episode II > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel
06/06/2002 10:17 AM > > > Original Message: > - > From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:39:32 -0700 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel > > > Wednesday, June 05, 2002, 12:17:08 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came: > >>> technology hasn't changed dick. People have simply NEVER been equal. the >>> haves vs the have-nots has always been there, and in many cases to a worse >>> degree than it is now. slavery? caste systems? serfs? I'm sure someone >>> would argue that we're all slaves now to corporations, but life in general >>> for the entire world is better now than it was even 200 years ago, and i can >>> only see it continuing to get better BECAUSE of technology. > > LKS> how would you measure this? > > Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et cetera. > > > uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most technologically > advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these statistics because it's not > > in my old neighborhoold of west philadelphia the infant mortality rate > approached those of 3rd world countriesthese are the sorts of facts that > have people protesting > > you wanna know who has one of the best health care systems..cuba ..and that is > _despite_ us embargos on supplies... > > >>>The dutch are actually better tha n the cuba ns (ps no o ne is swimmi ng 90 miles from Holla nd or the US a nywhere to escape political oppression. Who wants to live forever (repressed) As a canadia n I have been there, have you? (Just curious). > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18 > > LKS> how would you measure this? > > BBP> Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et cetera. > > > uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most > technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these > statistics because it's not Ah, but is the US the most technologically advanced country in the world anyway? It probably isn't you know. It's a very diverse place and as you say, inner city areas as well as remote rural backwaters aren't very technologically advanced places. Countries like Finland, Norway or Japan are arguably more technologically advanced all in all. But there aren't many metrics for measuring the technological advancement of a particular nation, in the same way as we use literacy, mortality rates, etc, to measure overall standard of living. But ultimately I don't think it impacts on techno music all in all. What stance should UR or Submerge take on this issue? Should the process of globalisation be stopped, so that records can't be exported to the rest of the world? Does techno music pose the dangerous risk of homogenising European culture? To me, techno is one of the *good* things about globalisation; on one hand, you get Starbucks, McDonalds, and other sterile forces spreading throughout the globe. But on the other hand, you get new cultural phenomena, like techno, which are not geographically specific, and allow people of diverse backgrounds and ideologies relate to one another and feel part of the greater whole. Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel
Original Message: - From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:39:32 -0700 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel Wednesday, June 05, 2002, 12:17:08 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came: >> technology hasn't changed dick. People have simply NEVER been equal. the >> haves vs the have-nots has always been there, and in many cases to a worse >> degree than it is now. slavery? caste systems? serfs? I'm sure someone >> would argue that we're all slaves now to corporations, but life in general >> for the entire world is better now than it was even 200 years ago, and i can >> only see it continuing to get better BECAUSE of technology. LKS> how would you measure this? Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et cetera. uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these statistics because it's not in my old neighborhoold of west philadelphia the infant mortality rate approached those of 3rd world countriesthese are the sorts of facts that have people protesting you wanna know who has one of the best health care systems..cuba ..and that is _despite_ us embargos on supplies... mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] OT broken beat stuff
Some of the releases on 2000 Black or Archive might have what you're looking for ... Artists like Nubian Mindz, Phoojun, the "Avenues and Alleways" 12" from Titonton Duvante, etc. Very electronic sounding with broken beat influences... Also some stuff from Delsin has this kind of sound, check the Aardvarck things or the Future Beat Alliance 12" (not the album). >From what I've heard the Agent K album is pretty "jazz-funky" though. Bart www.freestylegrooves.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: donderdag 6 juni 2002 3:02 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] OT broken beat stuff > > > > howdy peeps > > anyone into the uk broken beat stuff? i have heard fragments of it and > generally find it a bit too jazz-funky for my tastes, but was > kinda curious > to see if it has developed in any interesting ways...agent k LP > anyone? hit > me back privately. thanx. > > p-dogg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] EXTRA T's - E.T. Boogie (Juan Atkins Mix) - (1999 Regal)
found this on the play-lists of kirk degiorgio's now defunct radio show. does it really exist? anyone knows anything about it? a - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 'hard techno'
Most music stays in it's semi-closed circles. Accordian music is very very common in a lot of Europe, especially here in Ireland, which then fed American bluegrass/appalachian music as well as cajun/zydeco. You always have to look for things, it can't all come to you on it's own. > "hard techno will never die as long as there > are kids who want to dance." > > like folk music on an accordian? it's still there, you got to look > though. > -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: [313] Drexciya
I love all that recent Drexciya (and related) stuff. My favourite though was the first Transllusion 12". From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: Fw: [313] Drexciya Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:45:38 -0400 "harnessed the storm" is damn good, and the other people place LP is actually my favorite recent thing from that camp. i actually didnt like the translussion LP all that much. tom -- Original Message -- From: "Tom Mackenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:32:01 +1200 > > >- Original Message - >From: Tom Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Alexandres Lugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:21 AM >Subject: Re: [313] Drexciya > > >> Not much apart from what i heard in the interview, while on drexciyan >> topics, anyone heard Harnessed the storm and/or Other peoples place? I >> bought the Translusion Cd earllier in the year where are they taking >things? >> it's good stuff my personal fav's Cluben in Guyana, Transdimensional Glide >> shows all the classic signs. I guess they have heaps of material >stockpiled >> can't wait for the Next 4 albums. From what i gathered from the interview >it >> sounds like there are going to be many more apperances from Dreciyan DJ's >> all around the world, i hope!! >> >> Tom >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Alexandres Lugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org' <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:46 AM >> Subject: [313] Drexciya >> >> >> > If any of the UK posse is going to this, please let us know who, how or >> what >> > the Drexiyen DJ is/does... >> > >> > Peace, >> > Alex >> > >> > **JUST ANNOUNCED*** - LONDON ELECTROWERKZ - THURSDAY 6TH JUNE >> > > with: >> > > CASSETTEBOY >> > > DREXCIYEN DJ STINGRAY >> > > JAMIE LIDELL >> > > LFO DJ >> > > PLAID >> > > RICHARD DEVINE >> > > RUSSELL HASWELL >> > > WARP DJS >> > > WARP FILMS ROOM >> > > ADVANCE TICKETS £12.50 >> > > AVAILABLE FROM WWW.STARGREEN.COM, ROUGH TRADE:0207 240 0105 >> > SMALLFISH:0207 >> > > 739 2252 >> > > >> > > >> > > AVAILABLE ON TOUR ONLY - 'MAGIC BUS TRACKS' - an exclusive CD >featuring >> > > unreleased material from LUKE VIBERT, PLAID, RICHARD DEVINE, RUSSELL >> > > HASWELL, CHRIS CLARK, ASTROBOTNIA and others >> > >> > >> > >> > Peace, >> > Alex >> > www.fulcruminn.net >> > >> > >> > >> > -- --- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > >-- --- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > andythepooh.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons ==> >
yeah I heard it was gonna be shipped on a bootable cd , so presumable it would be pretty simple for them to make it self installing etc. I take it there will be separate mac and pc versions with powerpc / ix86 kernels ? I cant see that being much work for them - especially if the code uses standard OSS/ALSA libraries it should be pretty portable. A friend of mine runs a sound+light business in the UK, he was telling me he sold the first FS the other week - am going to get some leaflets and pricing info off him soon hopefully Marc >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:41 AM >To: Jayson B. >Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons >==>> > > > >On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 01:56 PM, Jayson B. wrote: > >> >>> All this adds up to me wanting a MAC version. I'll keep >buying vinyl, >>> I love listening to it at home and almost all the music I own in on >>> wax, but come on, get that heavy record bag off my shoulder >and I'm a >>> happy camper. >> >> >> >> >> if i'm correct, finalscratch still runs on the BE operating system. >> And while i know it only comes with the pc version, if you >bought the >> mac version, there's no reason why final scratch wouldn't >work on it. >> that was one of the beautiful things about the Be os; although you >> could use either a mac or a pc with the Os, anything that >would work on >> Be Pc would work on the Be Mac. >> >> anyone know anything different? > >you could only use be on much older versions of macs. basically about >the time that jobs came back to the company, that compatibility went >away. so it was several years ago. and that's also irrelevant now > >the pro version of FS (i.e. the first version) was based on >be. be got >sold and basically dismantled, sot that screwed up everything. > it then >got ported to an embedded linux system -- this is a little different >than a normal linux install. the consumer version will come with a >stripped down linux distribution, designed to run FS. it uses a >loopback file system on your (pc) c: drive, which is basically like a >virtual partition. it creates a 500mb (or so) file from within which >all the OS stuff happens, independent of the rest of the c: drive >(believe this doesn't apply to the audio files). this is how they get >around the latency issue without requiring the home user to >repartition >their drive and do a 'normal' linux install - which, depending on the >distribution and the hardware, can be a real bitch. this need to make >FS consumer friendly is what has delayed the launch.. which is >a pretty >good reason. stanton swears that if you have a pc that meets >the basic >system requirements you'll just be able to run the installer >and be done >with it. and as that letter stated, a mac version will be out shortly >thereafter. not sure if that will also be an embedded linux >solution as >well or not. it's feasible to run FS under osx because of >it's unix/bsd >heritage so we'll see. no way will it run on 9.x systems. i'm one of >those people anxiously awaiting the mac availability... > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons ==> >
Ive written realtime DSP software under linux and the latency is excellent compared to windows. Obviously the latency achieved is dependant on the spec of the system and the complexity of digital filter algo's involved. 5ms would be fine for mixing - Ive had decks running through the DSP stuff I wrote at 10ms and the latency wasn't noticeable. Anything under 10 is usually considered preety good for software. >-Original Message- >From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:06 PM >To: Giles Dickerson; 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail) >Subject: Re: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons >==>> > > >I think that the reason it's only written for BeOS, not Mac or >Windows, is >because of the audio latency. The last I heard they had it >down to like 5 >ms or something. If anyone has ever seen BeOS in action it's pretty >impressive. There's no way a Mac or a Windows machine could >handle audio >latency that low. > >And 5 ms still isn't all that great for DJ uses, at least in >my opinion. > >At 03:58 PM 6/5/2002 -0400, Giles Dickerson wrote: >>1. I had spine surgery 1 year ago for an injury I incurred >most probably >>from carrying my records to my radio show and DJ gigs. It >caused me three >>years of unbearable pain (anyone who knew me then can attest >to this by >>the shear number of pills I was taking) and my limp. I ended >up in the >>emergency room in New York and then on Morphine for a week and into >>neurosurgery. I would like to avid another back injury and >therefore not >>carrying my records to gigs is very appealing. >> >>2. My record bag can only hold 40 - 60 records, and is >limiting as I'm >>sure you all know. You know that moment where you still have apile of >>records you HAVE to bring with you to this gig but there's >just no room! >>With a big selection of my records on a laptop I can have a >few hundred >>tracks with me. >> >>3. With my music in a laptop or hard drive in my carry-on bag >I never have >>to worry about flying / losing / breaking my records in >airports / baggage >>claims. Ever know anyone that's had a crate of their favorite records >>ripped off? Don't answer that. >> >>All this adds up to me wanting a MAC version. I'll keep >buying vinyl, I >>love listening to it at home and almost all the music I own >in on wax, but >>come on, get that heavy record bag off my shoulder and I'm a >happy camper. >> >>- Giles >> >>D I G I T A S // B O S T O N >>-- >>Giles Dickerson >>Art Director >>800 Boylston Street >>Boston, MA >>02199 >>-- >>mobile 617 899 9635 >>office 617 369 8601 >> >>- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Herbert
> I understand that there are at least 2 versions of the "Secondhand Sounds" > lp. Anyone have the lowdown on this? There are two volumes of the vinyl release (available separately) simply because there are so many tracks. The CD release is a double-CD set, the vinyl was released in the form of two triple-packs I believe... Cheers, Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Techno/Industrial (was Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?)
Ian wrote: > On 6/5/02 9:00 AM, "Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Still, what's to say that techno has to have "soul" or "funk" - why can't we > > have some industrial sounding stuff? > > We can, but then it wouldn't be called techno. Yeah, it would be called IDM :) Seriously, AFX, Autechre, and LFO have been at it for years. I was just listening to LFO's "Tied Up" today. Lots of people call that music techno, and not industrial, but IMHO they're in denial. - Mike mike j. brown | xml/xslt: http://skew.org/xml/ denver/boulder, colorado, usa | personal: http://hyperreal.org/~mike/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons ==>>
Just curious : I know none of these two, but I loved the several Stephenson books I've read... what do these two books talk about ? why did you mention them in this thread ? Gwendal > Nope, but I've read/own "Open Sources" by DiBona, Ockman, and Stone. > > Has anyone read the Neil Stephenson book "In The Beginning > Was The Command > Line"? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] They're clinging to my hull . . .
. . . maybe I can shake them inside that nebula . . . http://www.bprince.com/ChargerC.mp3 (900kb) [this evening's audio doodle. quick and sloppy.] -- Brian "balistic" Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] OT broken beat stuff
given the latest traffic, this is more on-topic than you think. the uk "broken beat" stuff is inclusive of a lot of different material, ranging from ex-drum-and-bass types like Seiji (whose Opaque material and remixes are among my favorite), house, hip-hop (IG Culture!) and yes, very "jazz-funky" as you put it. I hope it never becomes a "real" genre with the limitations that go with. -d On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > howdy peeps > > anyone into the uk broken beat stuff? i have heard fragments of it and > generally find it a bit too jazz-funky for my tastes, but was kinda curious > to see if it has developed in any interesting ways...agent k LP anyone? hit > me back privately. thanx. > > p-dogg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons ==>>
Nope, but I've read/own "Open Sources" by DiBona, Ockman, and Stone. - Original Message - From: "Giles Dickerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail)" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Eric Scuccimarra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons ==>> Has anyone read the Neil Stephenson book "In The Beginning Was The Command Line"? - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 > -- > From: Eric Scuccimarra > Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 4:24 PM > To: Grammenos, Peter; Giles Dickerson; 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail) > Subject: RE: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons ==>> > > When they were shipping it out on their laptops they were sending the > laptops with a dual boot of Windows and BeOS, I think. Be has been out of > business for a while, I thought, but apparently you can still get the OS. > > I was not aware that it ran on Linux, though. > > At 04:19 PM 6/5/2002 -0400, Grammenos, Peter wrote: > > >I took a look at the website earlier, it can be installed on LINUX. PC only > >though... > > > >-p > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:12 PM > >To: 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail); Eric Scuccimarra > >Subject: RE: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons > >==>> > > > > > >So what type of system do you need for final scratch? > > > >- Giles > > > >D I G I T A S // B O S T O N > >-- > >Giles Dickerson > >Art Director > >800 Boylston Street > >Boston, MA > >02199 > >-- > >mobile 617 899 9635 > >office 617 369 8601 > > > > > -- > > > From: Eric Scuccimarra > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 4:05 PM > > > To: Giles Dickerson; 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail) > > > Subject: Re: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these > >reasons ==>> > > > > > > I think that the reason it's only written for BeOS, not Mac or Windows, is > > > > > because of the audio latency. The last I heard they had it down to like 5 > > > ms or something. If anyone has ever seen BeOS in action it's pretty > > > impressive. There's no way a Mac or a Windows machine could handle audio > > > latency that low. > > > > > > And 5 ms still isn't all that great for DJ uses, at least in my opinion. > > > > > > At 03:58 PM 6/5/2002 -0400, Giles Dickerson wrote: > > > >1. I had spine surgery 1 year ago for an injury I incurred most probably > > > >from carrying my records to my radio show and DJ gigs. It caused me three > > > > > >years of unbearable pain (anyone who knew me then can attest to this by > > > >the shear number of pills I was taking) and my limp. I ended up in the > > > >emergency room in New York and then on Morphine for a week and into > > > >neurosurgery. I would like to avid another back injury and therefore not > > > >carrying my records to gigs is very appealing. > > > > > > > >2. My record bag can only hold 40 - 60 records, and is limiting as I'm > > > >sure you all know. You know that moment where you still have apile of > > > >records you HAVE to bring with you to this gig but there's just no room! > > > >With a big selection of my records on a laptop I can have a few hundred > > > >tracks with me. > > > > > > > >3. With my music in a laptop or hard drive in my carry-on bag I never > >have > > > >to worry about flying / losing / breaking my records in airports / > >baggage > > > >claims. Ever know anyone that's had a crate of their favorite records > > > >ripped off? Don't answer that. > > > > > > > >All this adds up to me wanting a MAC version. I'll keep buying vinyl, I > > > >love listening to it at home and almost all the music I own in on wax, > >but > > > >come on, get that heavy record bag off my shoulder and I'm a happy > >camper. > > > > > > > >- Giles > > > > > > > >D I G I T A S // B O S T O N > > > >-- > > > >Giles Dickerson > > > >Art Director > > > >800 Boylston Street > > > >Boston, MA > > > >02199 > > > >-- > > > >mobile 617 899 9635 > > > >office 617 369 8601 > > > > > > > >-> > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons ==>>
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 01:56 PM, Jayson B. wrote: All this adds up to me wanting a MAC version. I'll keep buying vinyl, I love listening to it at home and almost all the music I own in on wax, but come on, get that heavy record bag off my shoulder and I'm a happy camper. if i'm correct, finalscratch still runs on the BE operating system. And while i know it only comes with the pc version, if you bought the mac version, there's no reason why final scratch wouldn't work on it. that was one of the beautiful things about the Be os; although you could use either a mac or a pc with the Os, anything that would work on Be Pc would work on the Be Mac. anyone know anything different? you could only use be on much older versions of macs. basically about the time that jobs came back to the company, that compatibility went away. so it was several years ago. and that's also irrelevant now the pro version of FS (i.e. the first version) was based on be. be got sold and basically dismantled, sot that screwed up everything. it then got ported to an embedded linux system -- this is a little different than a normal linux install. the consumer version will come with a stripped down linux distribution, designed to run FS. it uses a loopback file system on your (pc) c: drive, which is basically like a virtual partition. it creates a 500mb (or so) file from within which all the OS stuff happens, independent of the rest of the c: drive (believe this doesn't apply to the audio files). this is how they get around the latency issue without requiring the home user to repartition their drive and do a 'normal' linux install - which, depending on the distribution and the hardware, can be a real bitch. this need to make FS consumer friendly is what has delayed the launch.. which is a pretty good reason. stanton swears that if you have a pc that meets the basic system requirements you'll just be able to run the installer and be done with it. and as that letter stated, a mac version will be out shortly thereafter. not sure if that will also be an embedded linux solution as well or not. it's feasible to run FS under osx because of it's unix/bsd heritage so we'll see. no way will it run on 9.x systems. i'm one of those people anxiously awaiting the mac availability... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Loudboxer-speedy J
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 11:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all... I realize there was a thread about this a few weeks back, however... I like what I have heard from this record (Loudboxer-speedy J) What else would you recommend? Thanks, j would really recommend all his albums.. public energy no. 1, a shocking hobby, g-spot, ginger.. but they're generally quite a bit different than loudboxer. sorta. and all great. i believe there's a fair amount of RA on his site, so you might want to start there. also the plus8 site has clips of all the old 12"s now. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] final scratch ==>> Very Appealing for these reasons ==>>
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 03:34 PM, Giles Dickerson wrote: Has anyone read the Neil Stephenson book "In The Beginning Was The Command Line"? - Giles several times. re-read it on the way to detroit last weekend, actually. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OT broken beat stuff
howdy peeps anyone into the uk broken beat stuff? i have heard fragments of it and generally find it a bit too jazz-funky for my tastes, but was kinda curious to see if it has developed in any interesting ways...agent k LP anyone? hit me back privately. thanx. p-dogg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?
next on 313: Jeff Mills...Boxers or Briefs and the colors he prefers. ;) d --- Jason Kessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ohh god, NO!!! > > on 6/5/02 5:20 PM, Grammenos, Peter at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > PG> Also, rich is no > > longer wearing black rimmed glasses, he's moved on > to the trendier > > big-ass-orange glasses w/ silver wire rims. Guess > nyc is influencing him > > already, the're quite trendy here ;) > > > > -p > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] should I continue...
it was nice, i definitely didnt like the distorted drums, taking those out would be nice. a sweet little dubby bassline might be nice in there. tom -- Original Message -- From: ":P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:45:44 -0400 >I have this track that I layed down a melody for, but I cant tell if its >deranged or what. I lose perspective on music because I have it and I am of >course biased in one way or the other, depending on the track. > >http://www.emmrecords.com/~fux/should_I.mp3 > >its 3.x megs, and very very early. I will probably layer something else in >there, quiet, around 8-9khz and replace the drums with something even more >delicate and minimal. > >Please listen and provide any kind of feedback you want. > >(bad feedback is the most useful) > >http://www.emmrecords.com/~fux/should_I.mp3 > > > >-Joe > > > >-- --- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > andythepooh.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] [OT] Re: [313] submerge.panel and technology
Unfortunately there is no better world to escape to (and if there was I dare say we'd need rocket ships to get there!) Avoiding global capitalism is not an option at this point in the game, those who refuse to play will probably not survive. Therefore I see no other option than the creative adoption of technology as a weapon of resistance for those cultures that wish to survive. However, I don't believe that global capitalism is necessarily synonymous with technological advance; in many ways technology appears to be hindered by capitalism, and backwards agendas promoted (why else gas guzzling cars STILL are the primary form of transportation?). I don't see technology as something that necessarily conflicts with inherited cultures, either. Techno music itself is in so many ways a technological reworking of very basic human rhythms, often with roots in Africa. Even the homogenization promoted by the internet seems to exist primarily insofar as the internet promotes a homogenous corporate agenda; but one must admit that it has just as much potential to create virtual spaces that promote what is unique and singular, what is heterogenous rather than always the same. Indeed the decentralization of the internet makes it ideal for this, although there is an ongoing struggle over how decentralized it will be and who will control it. In the end, your argument against technology would seem to be misleading, as all humans use tools, there is no human culture that exists without technology. The question is: what kind of technology will we choose to create??? /dave g wrote: Agreed that societies which are technologically advanced have a "competitive advantage" in the global economy, but should all cultures be forced into global capitalism and the technology race? g Paul Virilio: "Resistance is always possible! But we must engage in resistance first of all by developing the idea of a technological culture. However, at the present time, this idea is grossly underdeveloped. For example, we have developed an artistic and a literary culture. Nevertheless, the ideals of technological culture remain underdeveloped and therefore outside of popular culture and the practical ideals of democracy. This is also why society as a whole has no control over technological developments. And this is one of the gravest threats to democracy in the near future. " _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
