RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
the term soul had a resergance in trend with the music industry starting around the mid to late 90's Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be scientifically proven, a primitive concept based in tradition. Ignoring for a second statements from the artists about how the landscape of Detroit impacted their soundscape, LISTEN to the music. Do you hear horror or contextual poverty in STRINGS OF LIFE? In NUDE PHOTO? In TRIANGLE OF LOVE? There is undoubtedly some darkness in these and other songs. But that isn't all there is. Just as techno is solely a reaction to a limited vision of what Detroit is, soul (and the blues) isn't simply a reaction to subjugation. I don't think we'd be listening to this stuff if it were. I hear simple tracks composed on drum machines and synthesizers, 4/4 16- step sequences. Derrick May isn't exactly Van Cliburn competition material if you know what I mean in fact Stings Of Life was more like good production/ editing skills but I'm glad to see him establish a name for himself in the mainstreme music community as the techno pioneer and reeping the awards of good marketing and PR skills. This nonsense about Detroit techno a way of escaping the economic, Industrial waste land of Detroit or the ghetto is complete nonsense. I'm sure maybe on a subconscience level. What was going on in Chicago with house and technology with drum machines, midi sequencers that Juan Atkins was into was more of a factor influencing the first techno coming out of Detroit. =
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 16:34:39 -0700 (PDT), spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: the term soul had a resergance in trend with the music industry starting around the mid to late 90's Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be scientifically proven, a primitive concept based in tradition. I must pick up my latest copy of Muzik or MixMag so I can catch up with the latest trends. I didn't realise 'soul' wasn't trendy again until 1996. You can now imagine the despair that I face when I see my 'friends' next, now that I know I just wasn't cool in 1995. Oh the humanity! -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
-- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be scientifically proven, a primitive concept based in tradition. i bet if you try REALLY REALLY HARD, you could say something even more stupid than this. id tell you to soul search to really get into it, but that would be futile. I hear simple tracks composed on drum machines and synthesizers, 4/4 16- step sequences. Derrick May isn't exactly Van Cliburn competition material if you know what I mean in fact Stings Of Life was more like good production/ editing skills but I'm glad to see him establish a name for himself in the mainstreme music community as the techno pioneer and reeping the awards of good marketing and PR skills. This nonsense about Detroit techno a way of escaping the economic, Industrial waste land of Detroit or the ghetto is complete nonsense. I'm sure maybe on a subconscience level. What was going on in Chicago with house and technology with drum machines, midi sequencers that Juan Atkins was into was more of a factor influencing the first techno coming out of Detroit. this bit was good too, but not nearly as dumb as the hu-man imagination bit. try again. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
On 6/22/03 7:34 PM, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be scientifically proven, a primitive concept based in tradition. And so it becomes clear. You ARE channeling the spirit of Criswell from Plan 9 from Outer Space. You see -- your stupid hu-man brains! Stupid, stupid, stupid! -- Im We are all interested in the future, for that, my friend, is where you and I will spend the rest of our lives.
RE: (313) DJ Mixers
Has anyone had a chance to try out that Vestax PCV-180? B -Original Message- From: Mark S. Krüx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) DJ Mixers If you can get the AH Xone 62 for a similar price go with that, it's quality can not be beat. Peace, m*hatespioneermixers*
Re: (313) DJ Mixers
Has anyone had a chance to try out that Vestax PCV-180? As far as I can tell it looks like an *updated* PCV175 aka PMC170.the basic mixer has been the same for many years. They keep reskining/tweaking it slightly and redesignating it. The PCV275 is also based off the same chassisas is my PMC270A Note: you have to upgrade to PCV faders...and it's plastic, blech. Don't pay more than $250 or you'll never be able to forgive yourself;-) Peace, m*
Re: (313) 7 Magazine
I have that issue, it was a cover story, the magazine went under a while back. It was quite a good magazine. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) 7 Magazine Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 8:57 AM I was reading an online article from 430 West website - there is a featured article in a back issue of 7 Magazine Is this magazine still in print? Where does it originate from? Any online links to them? Looks like it is/was a great magazine. MEK
(313) Talking Of Vestax
My first 'product' review (ahem): How sweet is the new Vestax portable turntable? Bit tinny for techno - ie any syncopated records, or records with hi hats - but very good, and real cool for neo-soul sounds, or anything in the middle range. Def worth Au$399. Surprised none of the spotters have mentioned it yet on 313.
RE: (313) DJ Mixers
i don't know about this mixer in particular- but the one thing you want to check with lower end Vestax is whetheryou can hear the EQ in the headphones. My roommate's old one sent the full signal to the headphones regardless of how the EQ was set. Annoying. And I don't remember what model it was. On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Neale, Bennett wrote: Has anyone had a chance to try out that Vestax PCV-180? B -Original Message- From: Mark S. Krüx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) DJ Mixers If you can get the AH Xone 62 for a similar price go with that, it's quality can not be beat. Peace, m*hatespioneermixers*
RE: (313) DJ Mixers
A few folk I know have Allen Heath mixers - think they do a couple with effects [although probs not as many features as the pioneer] Check out the 'Xone' range at : http://www.allen-heath.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:11 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) DJ Mixers Hello 313 Peepz, I'm looking into buying a new mixer (with in-built effects unit) and was wondering whether any UK based list members could offer me guidance into buying the right one. I want something that has a good range of effects (filters etc.) and is going to last. The one i've been looking at is the Pioneer 600 - would anyone recommend this or is there anything else around the same price (£600-700) that anyone would buy instead. Thanks - any help would be really appreciated. Chris. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) 7 Magazine
Is this magazine still in print? Where does it originate from? Any online links to them? Looks like it is/was a great magazine. Michael.Elliot-Knight Can't see the answer to this, sorry if I'm repeating. 7 is a sort of weekly UK Mixmag - the same guy who had the orginal idea for Mixmag (before it was sold to EMAP) started 7. I think he had to sell 7 last year - although he's still involved - as sales weren't as good as hoped. I believe it's still being published. I've never read a copy - although I read the item on Octave One, online. k
Re: (313) 7 Magazine
as far as I know it's re-started as Update ? - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: RE: (313) 7 Magazine Is this magazine still in print? Where does it originate from? Any online links to them? Looks like it is/was a great magazine. Michael.Elliot-Knight Can't see the answer to this, sorry if I'm repeating. 7 is a sort of weekly UK Mixmag - the same guy who had the orginal idea for Mixmag (before it was sold to EMAP) started 7. I think he had to sell 7 last year - although he's still involved - as sales weren't as good as hoped. I believe it's still being published. I've never read a copy - although I read the item on Octave One, online. k
(313) Damon Wild
Morning 313ers, Anyone on the list know where I can get in touch with Damon Wild? Please mail me off the list if you do - thanks in advance. Thanks to all those who mailed back about the 313 Mix, it's not to late to get your tracks in... -- Martin Dust Parkhead House 26 Carver Street Sheffield S1 4FS f: +44 (0) 114 241 3701 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://www.dustclub.com NOTE: This E-mail is private and confidential to the named recipients. Any information provided is given in good faith. However, unless specifically stated to the contrary, Dust, accepts no liability for the content of this E-mail, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. The unauthorised copying of any information contained in this E-mail to persons other than the named recipients is strictly forbidden. © 2003 Dust.
(313) Q's
Morning. I got a couple of Q's.. 1) How was the party in Glasgow? The line-up looked ace. anyone go? If I had any money I'd have gone up for that 2) How was the Bleep party in London? 3) I know it's been covered before - but how is a good way to un-warp a warped record? Thanks, Alex (very nosy, and always wanting something or other) _ - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, print or rely on this e-mail. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England with registered number OC303525. The registered office of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH. All partners in PricewaterhouseCoopers UK Associates A are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for designated investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com
Re: (313) Sonar Mixes...
http://sonar.emisiondigital.com/ingles/ hey, thanks for this link. There's a Strand set on there too, and a Metro Area one! woo-hoo, something to do at work today...! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) sonar vids
http://sonar.emisiondigital.com/ingles/ hmm. re. my last post. This isn't the real Strand on this video, it's someone else. gutted. Alex (who now needs something to do at work) *pesky electronica jokers ruining my day* : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Q's
I was at the Glasgow night. Got there just intime to catch the end of Tom's set, then Kirk DeGiorgio came on and did his Ableton set. He was far more banging than I expect and highly enjoyable - one minor point and I dont know if it was a technical problem with the set up or a problem with Ableton itself but there were minor glitches in the music, like a tiny pause thing every so often 15 mins or so. I bumped into Jason Brunton and that was when I found out that Stacey Pullen didnt make it. Apparently his flights got messed up and he was stuck in Amsterdam. Anyway after Kirk finished every time I went back through there was a different DJ on - Tom and the Trax residents seemed to be tagging on and off covering Staceys timeslot and doing a fine job of it too. I tried at one point to go a check out Danny Krivit in another room but I cant remember ever being in a club that busy (I think he should have been given one of the other 2 bigger rooms to play). Anyway he was playing Strings of life when I went in and the place was going nuts. Anyway, I had to leave that room due to lack of space and went out to the front arch for a few more drinks. All in all a good night out. Cheers BT Morning. I got a couple of Q's.. 1) How was the party in Glasgow? The line-up looked ace. anyone go? If I had any money I'd have gone up for that 2) How was the Bleep party in London? 3) I know it's been covered before - but how is a good way to un-warp a warped record? Thanks, Alex (very nosy, and always wanting something or other) _ - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, print or rely on this e-mail. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England with registered number OC303525. The registered office of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH. All partners in PricewaterhouseCoopers UK Associates A are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for designated investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com
RE: (313) DJ Mixers
i don't know about this mixer in particular- but the one thing you want to check with lower end Vestax is whetheryou can hear the EQ in the headphones. My roommate's old one sent the full signal to the headphones regardless of how the EQ was set. Annoying. And I don't remember what model it was. Yeah my Mixstick [pmc-06pro] does that - I might be wrong but I think its mainly the scratch stylee ones that do that. Peace, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) sonar vids
The Strand who played at Sonar are from Barcelona - not the geezers from Detroit. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:48 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) sonar vids http://sonar.emisiondigital.com/ingles/ hmm. re. my last post. This isn't the real Strand on this video, it's someone else. gutted. Alex (who now needs something to do at work) *pesky electronica jokers ruining my day* : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Bleep43.com on Saturday
Thanks to everyone who turned out for the party on Saturday and especial thanks to Jonny McIntosh and Phonopsia, aka Tristan Watkins for their ace deep housey sets. We were treated to 2 hours of immaculately selected and confidently executed house from Detroit (mostly) and broken beat from Tristan, and 2 hours of at turns euphoric classic house and disco and at others, the deepest of deep house, from Jonny. Once the spirit took hold in that little room, it didn't really dissipate (imho) for the rest of the night. And that would be the only party in London in which some of the (to most folk) most obscure vintage disco (or even Prince songs Jonny! ;-) would get a huge roar from the floor, before the end of the second bar! That just illustrates what a knowing and appreciative crowd attends. If you're doing a house event and you think you've got some credibility and a bit of class, you need to book Jonny McIntosh, and you need to book Phonopsia too. Ken
(313) Ulrich Schnauss
Any NW 313'ers at the Ulrich Schnauss and Arovane gig last night (Sunday) in Manchester? What did people think to it? I enjoyed it and bought the LP on the night, but then got side-tracked chatting to a pleasant chap about my dis-like of CDs and forgot to get the cover signed (DOH!)
Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss
Saw him in Nottingham on first Date of tour and thought it was quite good. I may get lots of personal attacks for this but I do think his stuff is slightly over rated. I think the music is just a bit too nice for my particular taste. I have far away trains passing and A Strangely Isolated Place, both are good but not as good as many people make out IMHO. Nottingham gig was good, like you though I got side tracked and missed some of it. Paul Hudson wrote: Any NW 313'ers at the Ulrich Schnauss and Arovane gig last night (Sunday) in Manchester? What did people think to it? I enjoyed it and bought the LP on the night, but then got side-tracked chatting to a pleasant chap about my dis-like of CDs and forgot to get the cover signed (DOH!) -- Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~mhl/
(313) Christian Morgenstern dead
http://www.side-line.com/indexnew.htm Yesterday morning we learned the very sad news that Christian Morgenstern, born on the 10th of november 1975 in Düsseldorf, Germany, had died 3 days earlier of what apparently seems to be a heart faillure. http://www.forterecords.com/ J -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Metaprogram yourself.
RE: (313) Ulrich Schnauss
Michael Lees: I may get lots of personal attacks for this but I do think his stuff is slightly over rated. I think the music is just a bit too nice for my particular taste. I have far away trains passing and A Strangely Isolated Place, both are good but not as good as many people make out IMHO. Actually, I think you are right Michael. However, this is after using the first LP as aural wallpaper for over a year, and I still like it! What repeated listening does expose though is the essential naivete of the construction of the tracks - not sure if that's a criticism though. Also, anything hyped is never (or rarely) as good as the hype. To me it's still a class LP. Haven't heard the latest one. k
Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss
well folks. welcome to Alex's The bored at work Monday debate todays debate; Electronica Art? or a load of f**king old tosh? discuss. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Ulrich Schnauss
Neutron, proton, mass effect, lyrical oxidation, yo irrelevant |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 23 June 2003 15:13 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss | | | |well folks. | |welcome to Alex's The bored at work Monday debate | |todays debate; | |Electronica |Art? or a load of f**king old tosh? | |discuss. | | |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | |
(313) last post
sorry. I'm bored. _ - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, print or rely on this e-mail. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England with registered number OC303525. The registered office of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH. All partners in PricewaterhouseCoopers UK Associates A are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for designated investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
I hear simple tracks composed on drum machines and synthesizers, 4/4 16- step sequences. Derrick May isn't exactly Van Cliburn competition material if you know what I mean in fact Stings Of Life was more like good production/ editing skills but I'm glad to see him establish a name for himself in the mainstreme music community as the techno pioneer and reeping the awards of good marketing and PR skills. Uh, he's established a name for himself in the mainstream music community? Really? That's interesting because last time I checked very few people even know what the Movement festival or even the DEMF is, let alone songs like Nude Photo, Beyond the Dance, Stings of Life, or The Dance. Pop his name into MTV's search and in the news archives you get one item that comes up - and that item is - BLANK. There isn't anything there on him. There is one review of Innovator and a bio. The other CD they list is a compilation that includes other artists like - Propellerheads, The Crystal Method, Atomic Babies, Headrillaz, Electric Skychurch, BT, Rabbit in the Moon, Fatboy Slim, etc. Plus Derrick isn't even mentioned in the review! All this despite pulling off one of the nation's largest electronic festivals without any financial backing and managing to bring the spirit, dare I say soul, back to the festival. The reason I use MTV as a thermometer is because *that is the mainstream music community*. If you think Derrick May is being recognized by the mainstream music community then you are seriously fooling yourself. Now back to our regularly featured program featuring the White Stripes and Justin Timberlake. MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw 06/22/03 06:34 PM was going on about) the term soul had a resergance in trend with the music industry starting around the mid to late 90's Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be scientifically proven, a primitive concept based in tradition. Ignoring for a second statements from the artists about how the landscape of Detroit impacted their soundscape, LISTEN to the music. Do you hear horror or contextual poverty in STRINGS OF LIFE? In NUDE PHOTO? In TRIANGLE OF LOVE? There is undoubtedly some darkness in these and other songs. But that isn't all there is. Just as techno is solely a reaction to a limited vision of what Detroit is, soul (and the blues) isn't simply a reaction to subjugation. I don't think we'd be listening to this stuff if it were. I hear simple tracks composed on drum machines and synthesizers, 4/4 16- step sequences. Derrick May isn't exactly Van Cliburn competition material if you know what I mean in fact Stings Of Life was more like good production/ editing skills but I'm glad to see him establish a name for himself in the mainstreme music community as the techno pioneer and reeping the awards of good marketing and PR skills. This nonsense about Detroit techno a way of escaping the economic, Industrial waste land of Detroit or the ghetto is complete nonsense. I'm sure maybe on a subconscience level. What was going on in Chicago with house and technology with drum machines, midi sequencers that Juan Atkins was into was more of a factor influencing the first techno coming out of Detroit. =
(313) Playlist WBAR NYC - 6-20-03
DJ Skooch (www.skooch.com) June 13, 2003 6:00-8:00pm EST live stream www.wbar.org / 87.9 FM in New York Pet Shop Boys - Before (D. Tenaglia Dub) - Parlophone Blaze - Lovely Ones (T. Regisford Shelter Remix) - Shelter Solar House - Got To Be You - Large Nick Holder - Da Sambafrique - NRK Ron Trent - Paradise - Prescription Common Factor - Disco Exorcism - Tactile Scotti Deep - Brooklyn Beats - Accor Todd Terry - Day in the Life - Freeze Dance Johnny D Nicky P - Reach 4 The Sky - Henry Street Aaliyah - More than a Woman (MAW Dub) - Virgin Danny Tenaglia - Bottom Heavy - Tribal UK DJ Sneak - Sneaks a Freak - Henry Street Harddrive - Deep Inside - Strictly Rhythm BucketHeads - THe Bomb - Henry Street Danny Tenaglia - Music is the Answer - Twisted Seal - Latest Craze (K. Chandler ? Remix) - White Musk Men - I Never Thought - Musk KOT - I Want You For Myself - YoshiToshi OnePhatDeeva vs. FatBoy Slim - In and Out of my Life - White Minimal Funk IV - My Definition of House - Junior Cevin Fisher - Got Me Burning Up - Tommy Boy Armand Van Helden - Armand Does Donna - White CZR - Southside Chicago (Mazi Rmx) - IHR Submission - Women Beat Their Men - Velocity MAW - Voices in My Mind - Da Groove Jedi Knights - May the Funk Be With You - Smugg Little Louie Vega w/ Blaze - Elements of Life - MAW George Benson - El Barrio (MAW Mix) - MAW MP3s will be posted monentarily to www.skooch.com at http://www.skooch.com/sounds/Skooch-WBAR062003-1.mp3 http://www.skooch.com/sounds/Skooch-WBAR062003-2.mp3
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
Trivial point I know but: Stings of Life spw ?!?! I guess it would be an appropriate title given those infamous sampled string stabs, which even my younger sister remembers, although she doesn't know where from ... Or maybe spw's spelling is just as poor as his reasoning ooh - something tells me some more stings of life will be heading in my direction shortly ;-) k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:26 PM To: spw Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about) I hear simple tracks composed on drum machines and synthesizers, 4/4 16- step sequences. Derrick May isn't exactly Van Cliburn competition material if you know what I mean in fact Stings Of Life was more like good production/ editing skills but I'm glad to see him establish a name for himself in the mainstreme music community as the techno pioneer and reeping the awards of good marketing and PR skills. Uh, he's established a name for himself in the mainstream music community? Really? That's interesting because last time I checked very few people even know what the Movement festival or even the DEMF is, let alone songs like Nude Photo, Beyond the Dance, Stings of Life, or The Dance. Pop his name into MTV's search and in the news archives you get one item that comes up - and that item is - BLANK. There isn't anything there on him. There is one review of Innovator and a bio. The other CD they list is a compilation that includes other artists like - Propellerheads, The Crystal Method, Atomic Babies, Headrillaz, Electric Skychurch, BT, Rabbit in the Moon, Fatboy Slim, etc. Plus Derrick isn't even mentioned in the review! All this despite pulling off one of the nation's largest electronic festivals without any financial backing and managing to bring the spirit, dare I say soul, back to the festival. The reason I use MTV as a thermometer is because *that is the mainstream music community*. If you think Derrick May is being recognized by the mainstream music community then you are seriously fooling yourself. Now back to our regularly featured program featuring the White Stripes and Justin Timberlake. MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw 06/22/03 06:34 PM was going on about) the term soul had a resergance in trend with the music industry starting around the mid to late 90's Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be scientifically proven, a primitive concept based in tradition. Ignoring for a second statements from the artists about how the landscape of Detroit impacted their soundscape, LISTEN to the music. Do you hear horror or contextual poverty in STRINGS OF LIFE? In NUDE PHOTO? In TRIANGLE OF LOVE? There is undoubtedly some darkness in these and other songs. But that isn't all there is. Just as techno is solely a reaction to a limited vision of what Detroit is, soul (and the blues) isn't simply a reaction to subjugation. I don't think we'd be listening to this stuff if it were. I hear simple tracks composed on drum machines and synthesizers, 4/4 16- step sequences. Derrick May isn't exactly Van Cliburn competition material if you know what I mean in fact Stings Of Life was more like good production/ editing skills but I'm glad to see him establish a name for himself in the mainstreme music community as the techno pioneer and reeping the awards of good marketing and PR skills. This nonsense about Detroit techno a way of escaping the economic, Industrial waste land of Detroit or the ghetto is complete nonsense. I'm sure maybe on a subconscience level. What was going on in Chicago with house and technology with drum machines, midi sequencers that Juan Atkins was into was more of a factor influencing the first techno coming out of Detroit. =
Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss
good. I may get lots of personal attacks for this but I do think his stuff is slightly over rated. I think the music is just a bit too nice for my particular taste. I have far away trains passing and A Strangely Isolated Place, both are good but not as good as many people make out IMHO. I have far away trains and a few singles I'm w/ you. I think his melodies and synth work are really great - reminds me a little of some old 4AD stuff. But his beats are really cold, thin, simple, and overly quantized for my taste (in general.. although i've heard exceptions on a few standout tracks). They sound like cheap casio wannabe hip-hop beats or something... kinda ruins it for me - either stick with 4-4 beats or get some really well produced broken stuff, but half-assed break beats are weak.. p
Re: (313) Christian Morgenstern dead
from discogs.com http://www.discogs.com/artist/Christian_Morgenstern Christian Morgenstern died last week (19.06.2003) in his apartment in Cologne at the age of just 27. After skating with friends he went home because he felt pain in his chest. No one could reach him for a few days and finally last friday a friend found him dead in his apartment. Christian was working night and day on his new album, so it was normal that he wasn´t replying to phone calls or whatever. Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Somewhere in Internet 313@hyperreal.org etppl.ficc: Subject: (313) Christian Morgenstern dead 06/23/03 09:03 AM http://www.side-line.com/indexnew.htm Yesterday morning we learned the very sad news that Christian Morgenstern, born on the 10th of november 1975 in Düsseldorf, Germany, had died 3 days earlier of what apparently seems to be a heart faillure. http://www.forterecords.com/ J -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Metaprogram yourself.
(313) Cartridges for SL1200's
I have some Stanton 500 cartridges on my SL1200's. I'm thinking of getting me a nice new set. what are you guys using or what would you recommend??
RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
Ortofon nightclub e's did me fine for home Concorde's if you're cool :) |-Original Message- |From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 23 June 2003 16:01 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's | | | |I have some Stanton 500 cartridges on my SL1200's. I'm |thinking of getting me a nice new set. what are you guys |using or what would you recommend?? |
RE: (313) Sonar Mixes...
I recorded a few tracks from the Mathew Herbert Big Band @ Sonar and will post it once I get my baggage back (it was sent to the wrong airport) ! SONAR was inspirational. I'm convinced more people in Spain / Germany love techno than in any other country. -p -Original Message- From: m a t t [d] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: (313) Sonar Mixes... that cd is some kind of compilation va i v.much doubt it's acutally live, if ppl are looking for livesets check: Gilles_Peterson_-_Worldwide_Live_from_Sonar_06-12-DAB-2003-BOSS VA_-_The_Blueroom_Live_from_Sonar_BBC_Radio_One_06-14-DAB-2003-BOSS Underworld-Live_from_Sonar_2003-DAB-15-06-2003-MS VA_-_Oneworld_Live_From_Sonar_BBC_Radio_One_06-12-DAB-2003-BOSS Akufen-Live_from_Sonar_2003-DAB-14-06-2003-MS T._Raumschmiere-Live_from_Sonar_2003-DAB-xx-06-2003-MS VA_-_Oneworld_Sonar_2003_Special_BBC_Radio_One_06-20-DAB-2003-BOSS --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) DJ Mixers
here is my breakdown. personally id dont see the point in buying an expencive mixer which will wear out fast and i see lots of 500 and 600's in the shop where i used to work. personally i think they are flimsy, cheap pots and faders. i also think the cheaper vastex and neumarks are not worth a crap, they break down very quickly from experience with friends equipment. please note i'm not talking about there more expencive units, have not used them. it took me a very long time to buy a mixer, i settled on a simple 2 ch, 3 band eq battle style (i'm not a battle style dj though). at first i wanted a mixer with efx but decided that they all sounded either cheap or cheezy and i was really only using them very rare and mainly on the master. so i decided when i wanted to use my exf i could just route them through the master before the amp. the mixer o bought was a stanton sk-2f it was $250 and i have had not problems with mine. three of us around here have them they cost use a range of $150-$300 depending on when we bought and where. we have had one problem unit, the cheapest one, guess you get what you pay for. but the bass pot on one of the channels is going bad. needs to be replaced and stanton warrenty is good for 30 days on that part (bastards). one thing i noticed every 500 or 600 i play is is wack unless it's new or kept in a glass case/has a anal owner. every club i have been at thet has one they are just trash. almost every club around here has one which pisses me off because they are a crappy mixer imo, very cheaply built. if i was you and living in the uk i would look to an ah i dont care for them much either, but it is a layout issue with me there. i have used the x-zone 32 once and it was a beast to use for me. i really did not like how the preamp volume was on the back of the mixer and the volume curve was set up like a scratch mixer but it had no kill switches. but the mixer was solid sounded good and if ah makes a dj mixer like they make there desk mixers they will last. the only club around here i can think of that has an AH is the necto and from my understanding it was very expencive but it's really nice. it has these hudge knobs which leeds me to the one vastex i liek i think is the 245? it's the 19 one with the big knobs for the eq's. scotto lansing, mi plaztikjezuz.com
RE: (313) DJ Mixers
one thing i noticed every 500 or 600 i play is is wack unless it's new or kept in a glass case/has a anal owner. Speaking which - does anyone make plastic dust covers for mixers or are there good alternatives (excluding a towel) for keeping dust and pet hair off of a mixer? MEK
RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
There's quite a few types of Concord.. Silver, Gold, nightclub... Anyone know what the benefits are with each type?? -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51 To: 'rob'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's Ortofon nightclub e's did me fine for home Concorde's if you're cool :) |-Original Message- |From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 23 June 2003 16:01 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's | | | |I have some Stanton 500 cartridges on my SL1200's. I'm |thinking of getting me a nice new set. what are you guys |using or what would you recommend?? |
RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
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RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
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Re: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
I have some Stanton 500 cartridges on my SL1200's. I'm thinking of getting me a nice new set. what are you guys using or what would you recommend?? i dont like stanton needles much, the 500's imo is one of the worst needles ever, almost all my friends have them. my biggest complaint about stanton needles are they dont track for jack! i have a pair of trackmasters and they are IMO the worst tracking needle ever. you have to have the lightest hand to even cue and they cost as much as ortofon's. i really like shure needles for the price the m35s are pretty good, they track nice, they sound good, don't over wear the record and the price is right. the m44g is also nice; tracks very well, scratchs, stays in the groove, etc. ortofon needles are nice but they cost alot and then the replacement tip cost a lot also and if you use them a lot you need to replace the tips. these would be my choice if i was rich! i have the same problem with my trackmasters tips $85 for two replacements. i can buy all new shure m35's ($65 for a pair) for that the tips for those are $20 a peice. another thing to think about is wheather you want spherical or eliptical tips. spherical wear the records faster but are better for scratching and surface noise and eliptical wear less but don't track as well and pick more surface noise. i would also look into how much the replacement tips cost and factor that in my decision. scotto lansing, mi plaztikjezuz.com
RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
I would say to stay away from the one piece Ortofons. They have been known to mess up the tone arms on technics turntables because of size the contacts. If you can, compare how much bigger the contacts are on an ortofon compared to a normal headshell, they will push the contacts apart inside your tone arm causing them to come loose after time. Anyone else ever had this problem? Ortofon makes a good sounding cartridge though, you should check out the ones that mount under a headshell. The model #s on these all start with OM. Musicians friend has the OM PRO S with an extra cart for 49.99 right now, you could get 2 for just over a hundred with shipping. Mike -Original Message- From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:05 AM To: Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's There's quite a few types of Concord.. Silver, Gold, nightclub... Anyone know what the benefits are with each type?? -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51 To: 'rob'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's Ortofon nightclub e's did me fine for home Concorde's if you're cool :) |-Original Message- |From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 23 June 2003 16:01 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's | | | |I have some Stanton 500 cartridges on my SL1200's. I'm |thinking of getting me a nice new set. what are you guys |using or what would you recommend?? |
RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
Thanks for the warning Michael... I'll check that out!! -Original Message- From: Michael Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2003 17:19 To: rob; Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's I would say to stay away from the one piece Ortofons. They have been known to mess up the tone arms on technics turntables because of size the contacts. If you can, compare how much bigger the contacts are on an ortofon compared to a normal headshell, they will push the contacts apart inside your tone arm causing them to come loose after time. Anyone else ever had this problem? Ortofon makes a good sounding cartridge though, you should check out the ones that mount under a headshell. The model #s on these all start with OM. Musicians friend has the OM PRO S with an extra cart for 49.99 right now, you could get 2 for just over a hundred with shipping. Mike -Original Message- From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:05 AM To: Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's There's quite a few types of Concord.. Silver, Gold, nightclub... Anyone know what the benefits are with each type?? -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51 To: 'rob'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's Ortofon nightclub e's did me fine for home Concorde's if you're cool :) |-Original Message- |From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 23 June 2003 16:01 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's | | | |I have some Stanton 500 cartridges on my SL1200's. I'm |thinking of getting me a nice new set. what are you guys |using or what would you recommend?? |
RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
I would say to stay away from the one piece Ortofons. They have been known to mess up the tone arms on technics turntables because of size the contacts. If you can, compare how much bigger the contacts are on an ortofon compared to a normal headshell, they will push the contacts apart inside your tone arm causing them to come loose after time. Anyone else ever had this problem? I have always heard this from people who don't own ortofon needles. and have had friends who have had ortofons for a few years with no problems like this. i just can not imagine ortofon would realese a product tha would destroy the tone arm, who knows maybe i'm wrong? on the same note, stanton trackmasters and groovemasters are the same style as the ortofon one peice style and the contacts are even bigger and i never hear this rumor about them? Ortofon makes a good sounding cartridge though, you should check out the ones that mount under a headshell. The model #s on these all start with OM. Musicians friend has the OM PRO S with an extra cart for 49.99 right now, you could get 2 for just over a hundred with shipping. i have used these carts and they sound really good and track very good. they look funky as hell. scotto laninsg, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
I used to buy Stanton Carts and styli, and I was buying them about one replacement stylus every 6 months (and carts about once a year, sometimes twice), until I purchased my first set of Ortofons 4 years ago. They lasted over 2 years (styli were pretty worn, but never had any cartridge problems at all), and I'm on my third set now (one set was stolen). I've NEVER had the problem described with a tonearm, and when I was using stanton's I remember the contacts being very small, which in turn led to alot of cartridges buring out fast (and then you have to lick the contacts, etc.). I've never had to do anything like that with any ortofons that I've used. My tables are 6-7 years old, and I've been using ortofons for 4 years, with none of the aforementioned problems... Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:21 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's I would say to stay away from the one piece Ortofons. They have been known to mess up the tone arms on technics turntables because of size the contacts. If you can, compare how much bigger the contacts are on an ortofon compared to a normal headshell, they will push the contacts apart inside your tone arm causing them to come loose after time. Anyone else ever had this problem? I have always heard this from people who don't own ortofon needles. and have had friends who have had ortofons for a few years with no problems like this. i just can not imagine ortofon would realese a product tha would destroy the tone arm, who knows maybe i'm wrong? on the same note, stanton trackmasters and groovemasters are the same style as the ortofon one peice style and the contacts are even bigger and i never hear this rumor about them? Ortofon makes a good sounding cartridge though, you should check out the ones that mount under a headshell. The model #s on these all start with OM. Musicians friend has the OM PRO S with an extra cart for 49.99 right now, you could get 2 for just over a hundred with shipping. i have used these carts and they sound really good and track very good. they look funky as hell. scotto laninsg, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
(313) Subject: RE: (313) 7 Magazine
Can't see the answer to this, sorry if I'm repeating. 7 is a sort of weekly UK Mixmag - the same guy who had the orginal idea for Mixmag (before it was sold to EMAP) started 7. Does it have anything about music in it or is it all about how cool it is to take drugs, perhaps with some verbal rimjobbing Sasha thrown it to get it put on the same shelves as the rest of the music mags!?! Cheers David
(313) RE: good reads (was 7 Magazine)
Well, I know you're joking (sort of) but it does seem to have more to do with music than most other DJ/dance music magazines do. The Octave One article was good and as far as I know when Mixmag started it concentrated on the music and not the newest drug/fashion/high profile DJ - I might be wrong but it seems like the team or person who started 7 has/had some integrity. I don't know about other people on 313 list but I do like to have something to read about in dance music but it seems like there less than a handful of decent magazines out there that cover the music I like and are intelligent - consistently. So far they are: XLR8R (although the recent sway toward post-rock has me a bit worried - not that I don't like that music) Straight No Chaser 3000 (haven't seen it yet but I'd expect anything out of Submerge to be quality) The Wire (although it gets a too self-absorbed at times) If 7 is still kicking around and is upholding the quality that I've seen from on-line articles then I'd be more than happy to read it. MEK David Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org dstor.com cc: Subject: (313) Subject: RE: (313) 7 Magazine 06/23/03 11:31 AM Can't see the answer to this, sorry if I'm repeating. 7 is a sort of weekly UK Mixmag - the same guy who had the orginal idea for Mixmag (before it was sold to EMAP) started 7. Does it have anything about music in it or is it all about how cool it is to take drugs, perhaps with some verbal rimjobbing Sasha thrown it to get it put on the same shelves as the rest of the music mags!?! Cheers David
Re: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
Ortofon concord pro-s for me Used them 5 years non-stop, replaced styli for $29 each 2, twice My tone arm is fine and I love these things. Gives good meaning to putting the needle on the record instead of 2 inches above it. I would never switch, unless they were free
(313) Subject: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's / DJ Mixers
I replaced my 500s with Trackmaster II SKs a short while back and I am very happy with them, though I had to spend quite a bit of time experimenting with the correct tonearm weight - you will need to knock this up to at least 3.0... It appears to be considerably cheaper to buy from the US (about 50% of UK costs), but I tried several places all who could not understand some combination of the concepts of credit card payments, international shipping or keeping items in stock. I ended up getting an excellent deal through EBAY (3xcartridges + 8 styli + shipping for £140) With regards to the DJ mixers, I have the Technics Mixing Championship mixer (can't recall model number) and the sound quality I get with it is considerably worse than if I directly attach the turntable to the amp; I have been told that it is a fact of life that mixers will do this - has anyone got any suggestions here as to anyway I can improve things or recommend any mixer which does retain decent sound quality? Cheers David
Re: (313) RE: good reads (was 7 Magazine)
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about other people on 313 list but I do like to have something to read about in dance music but it seems like there less than a handful of decent magazines out there that cover the music I like and are intelligent - consistently. So far they are: XLR8R (although the recent sway toward post-rock has me a bit worried - not that I don't like that music) im not really into post rock so i feel you on that tip too. other than that XLR8R doesnt even seem like the kind of magazine that should exist in america. Straight No Chaser this is definitely my favorite. i just picked up the new one with amp fiddler on it and a nice carl craig interview. it even features a top 10 from titonton this issue. i swear the people that write this mag had me in mind when they wrote it. The Wire (although it gets a too self-absorbed at times) the wire is so elitist, i love it. if im feeling pretentious, i buy it. i was looking at this mag called breakin point i think it was, last month's issue had an article and mix CD by bugz in the attic. it was pretty decent, though i dont know if id buy it. and when did URB become mixmag? the first issue i can remember buying of that mag had photek on it back when he was interesting. now they put crap like fischerspooner on the cover (or whatever electrocrap artist that was, i cant remember). its too bad for them that they suck now. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) DJ Mixers
my roommates wasn't a scratch mixer. but whatever. i think you just have to ask before you buy. or better yet, test it. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote: i don't know about this mixer in particular- but the one thing you want to check with lower end Vestax is whetheryou can hear the EQ in the headphones. My roommate's old one sent the full signal to the headphones regardless of how the EQ was set. Annoying. And I don't remember what model it was. Yeah my Mixstick [pmc-06pro] does that - I might be wrong but I think its mainly the scratch stylee ones that do that. Peace, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) RE: good reads (was 7 Magazine)
I always enjoy jockey slut. Not only do they cover the music I like, but they're actually fun to read. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I know you're joking (sort of) but it does seem to have more to do with music than most other DJ/dance music magazines do. The Octave One article was good and as far as I know when Mixmag started it concentrated on the music and not the newest drug/fashion/high profile DJ - I might be wrong but it seems like the team or person who started 7 has/had some integrity. I don't know about other people on 313 list but I do like to have something to read about in dance music but it seems like there less than a handful of decent magazines out there that cover the music I like and are intelligent - consistently. So far they are: XLR8R (although the recent sway toward post-rock has me a bit worried - not that I don't like that music) Straight No Chaser 3000 (haven't seen it yet but I'd expect anything out of Submerge to be quality) The Wire (although it gets a too self-absorbed at times) If 7 is still kicking around and is upholding the quality that I've seen from on-line articles then I'd be more than happy to read it. MEK David Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org dstor.com cc: Subject: (313) Subject: RE: (313) 7 Magazine 06/23/03 11:31 AM Can't see the answer to this, sorry if I'm repeating. 7 is a sort of weekly UK Mixmag - the same guy who had the orginal idea for Mixmag (before it was sold to EMAP) started 7. Does it have anything about music in it or is it all about how cool it is to take drugs, perhaps with some verbal rimjobbing Sasha thrown it to get it put on the same shelves as the rest of the music mags!?! Cheers David
RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
You are correct; I have never had this problem. But then again, I have never put ortofon needles on my decks. I do however know a couple different people who this has happened to, maybe its something else they are doing to their decks to cause this problem but they swear it was the Orts that did it. I use Stanton AL500II mounted to technics head shells and have no complaints. I have a pair of used (not by me) Concord pro S sitting here, one with broken needle. 40 bucks plus shipping if anyone wants them. Has anyone tried or seen the Shure Whitelabel cartridges that are out? Real funky looking and are supposed to sound real nice. Here is a link to the website. http://www.needlz.com/cartridges/whitelabel.asp Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:21 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's I would say to stay away from the one piece Ortofons. They have been known to mess up the tone arms on technics turntables because of size the contacts. If you can, compare how much bigger the contacts are on an ortofon compared to a normal headshell, they will push the contacts apart inside your tone arm causing them to come loose after time. Anyone else ever had this problem? I have always heard this from people who don't own ortofon needles. and have had friends who have had ortofons for a few years with no problems like this. i just can not imagine ortofon would realese a product tha would destroy the tone arm, who knows maybe i'm wrong? on the same note, stanton trackmasters and groovemasters are the same style as the ortofon one peice style and the contacts are even bigger and i never hear this rumor about them? Ortofon makes a good sounding cartridge though, you should check out the ones that mount under a headshell. The model #s on these all start with OM. Musicians friend has the OM PRO S with an extra cart for 49.99 right now, you could get 2 for just over a hundred with shipping. i have used these carts and they sound really good and track very good. they look funky as hell. scotto laninsg, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
(313) Christian Morgenstern(fwd)
is this true? i hope its a lie -- Forwarded Message: - From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Christian Morgenstern dead at 28 Date:Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:29:50 EDT Death of Christian Morgenstern Shocks Music World: Yesterday morning we learned the very sad news that Christian Morgenstern, born on the 10th of November 1975 in Düsseldorf, Germany, had died 3 days earlier of what apparently seems to be a heart failure. Christian released his first solo single on Important Extracts entitled 'Minus 38 and Counting'. The 'Miscellaneous EP' was released a month later on Kanzleramt records. Besides producing records for labels like Kurbel, Konsequent and Creation Rebel, Christian gave birth to his own outlet, Forte records in 1999. Bands signed to the label are Codec and Flexor, Dr. Shingo, Maral Salmassi, Matthew Mercer, Moshikop, Ronny Priest and Solar.
RE: (313) Bleep43.com on Saturday
had a wicked time ::)) thanks guys for the great musique :) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2003 14:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Cc: Toby Frith; Emile Facey; Jo Johnson; Jonny McIntosh; Phonopsia Subject: (313) Bleep43.com on Saturday Thanks to everyone who turned out for the party on Saturday and especial thanks to Jonny McIntosh and Phonopsia, aka Tristan Watkins for their ace deep housey sets. We were treated to 2 hours of immaculately selected and confidently executed house from Detroit (mostly) and broken beat from Tristan, and 2 hours of at turns euphoric classic house and disco and at others, the deepest of deep house, from Jonny. Once the spirit took hold in that little room, it didn't really dissipate (imho) for the rest of the night. And that would be the only party in London in which some of the (to most folk) most obscure vintage disco (or even Prince songs Jonny! ;-) would get a huge roar from the floor, before the end of the second bar! That just illustrates what a knowing and appreciative crowd attends. If you're doing a house event and you think you've got some credibility and a bit of class, you need to book Jonny McIntosh, and you need to book Phonopsia too. Ken --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
Re: (313) Bleep43.com on Saturday
yeah! what a wicked evening! great tunes throughout, thanks Ken, Tristan and Johnny. great dancing too, when I was sat down at the side, watching everyone, it was like a panorama of groove great ppl - nice to meet and dance with some 313/overload members! matt :) . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) UK 313ers - This Wednesday Nite 25th June
Technology In association with Midnightbeats (www.midnightbeats.com) invites you to a night of detroit house and techno The Detroit Impression Tour 2003 only UK Date Wednesday 25th June 9pm-3am Madame Jo Jo's, Brewer Street, Soho Chris Finke (Atomic Jam, Flux Recordings) 12:00 - 1:30am Kube 72 (Midnightbeats, Triebwerk) Both me and Taurus will play til close Taurus (Midnightbeats, Hamburg) Speaker People 10:30 - 12:00am Salerno DJ Drummer (Renegade 107.4FM) 9:00 - 10:30pm Synchronised Video Projections by Redwhale £6 (£4 before 11pm) www.technologylondon.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope some of you can make it. Thanks in advance! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
Re: (313) Christian Morgenstern(fwd)
Sadly, this is true. The websites of Kanzleramt and Forte both have been updated to reflect it. It's not a hoax. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this true? i hope its a lie -- Forwarded Message: - From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Christian Morgenstern dead at 28 Date:Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:29:50 EDT Death of Christian Morgenstern Shocks Music World: Yesterday morning we learned the very sad news that Christian Morgenstern, born on the 10th of November 1975 in Düsseldorf, Germany, had died 3 days earlier of what apparently seems to be a heart failure. Christian released his first solo single on Important Extracts entitled 'Minus 38 and Counting'. The 'Miscellaneous EP' was released a month later on Kanzleramt records. Besides producing records for labels like Kurbel, Konsequent and Creation Rebel, Christian gave birth to his own outlet, Forte records in 1999. Bands signed to the label are Codec and Flexor, Dr. Shingo, Maral Salmassi, Matthew Mercer, Moshikop, Ronny Priest and Solar.
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
It's not only with dance music culture but with more mainstream music like rock, country (artist going back to blue grass, folk music roots) genres like neo-soul (coke classic commercials)electronica Pop artsit like Moby. Pick up and read magazines like Rolling Stone, Vibe, I'm sure youll have no problem spotting the word soul which is a common place cliche these days. Eddie Flashin' Fowlkes get's credit for using the term first with techno way before it became common place and trendy with dance music culture. He even had the concept of soulful house and tech-house down incoporating more sample happy/ natural sounding beats. --- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must pick up my latest copy of Muzik or MixMag so I can catch up with the latest trends. I didn't realise 'soul' wasn't trendy again until 1996. You can now imagine the despair that I face when I see my 'friends' next, now that I know I just wasn't cool in 1995. Oh the humanity! =
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
nonsense. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, spw wrote: It's not only with dance music culture but with more mainstream music like rock, country (artist going back to blue grass, folk music roots) genres like neo-soul (coke classic commercials)electronica Pop artsit like Moby. Pick up and read magazines like Rolling Stone, Vibe, I'm sure youll have no problem spotting the word soul which is a common place cliche these days. Eddie Flashin' Fowlkes get's credit for using the term first with techno way before it became common place and trendy with dance music culture. He even had the concept of soulful house and tech-house down incoporating more sample happy/ natural sounding beats. --- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must pick up my latest copy of Muzik or MixMag so I can catch up with the latest trends. I didn't realise 'soul' wasn't trendy again until 1996. You can now imagine the despair that I face when I see my 'friends' next, now that I know I just wasn't cool in 1995. Oh the humanity! =
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
I think he has, artist like Jay-Z and Herbbie Hancock are well aware of who Derrick May is, I think Carl Craig is more popular though. Someone told they saw highlights of the DEMF on MTV which is about as mainstream as it gets. Carl Craig has been featured in mainstream American magazines like Rolling Stone on numerous occasions, Wasnt it you that mentioned them making the cover of Urb? Urb is on a lot of Magazine racks. Speaking of Rolling Stone I rember reading an article (or was it Spin?) about Kraftwerk when they went on tour back in the late 90's it had all the bands Kraftwerk had influenced and Carl Craig was up there with the likes of Devo. These guys are not hitting the Billboard Top 40 but that doesn't mean they are not getting recognition for their accomplishments by the music industry. If you still have any doubts look what's classifdied under Popular Music on the CDNOW: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-7582885-0525427 Innovator -- Derrick May; Audio CD Editorial Reviews Amazon.com Thanks to legendary singles like Strings of Life and Nude Photo, Derrick May is universally regarded as the definitive techno producer; by hijacking the rhythmic sensibilities of house and adding the intelligence of European electronica and the spirit of Motown, he single-handedly defined and articulated the sound of Detroit. But despite (or perhaps because of) his status as a legend, nary a bleep had emerged from his studio since 1990 before the release of Innovator, a collection of his past work. This double CD contains the aforementioned Strings and Nude Photo singles as well as other classics like It Is What It Is, Salsa Life, and The Beginning, all of which have been available only in vinyl form on May's own Transmat label. Until he reemerges from a self-imposed musical hiatus, your course in the spirit of Detroit begins and ends here. --Matthew Corwine Customers who bought this title also bought: * Faces Phases ~ Kevin Saunderson * Wax Trax! Mastermix, Vol. 1 ~ Juan Atkins * X-Mix: Transmission from Deep Space Radio ~ Kevin Saunderson * Classics [IMPORT] ~ Model 500 * Clear ~ Cybotron * A Hundred Days Off ~ Underworld * Selected Ambient Works, Vol. 2 ~ Aphex Twin * The Beatles (The White Album) ~ Beatles Explore Similar Items: 9 in Music Customers who shopped for this item also shopped for these items: * Mysterious Traveller ~ System 7, Derrick May * Deep Space ~ Model 500 * Vol. 1 - Club Classics 10th Anniversary ~ Soul II Soul * Dig Your Own Hole ~ The Chemical Brothers --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, he's established a name for himself in the mainstream music community? Really? That's interesting because last time I checked very few people even know what the Movement festival or even the DEMF is, let alone songs like Nude Photo, Beyond the Dance, Stings of Life, or The Dance. Pop his name into MTV's search and in the news archives you get one item that comes up - and that item is - BLANK. There isn't anything there on him. There is one review of Innovator and a bio. The other CD they list is a compilation that includes other artists like - Propellerheads, The Crystal Method, Atomic Babies, Headrillaz, Electric Skychurch, BT, Rabbit in the Moon, Fatboy Slim, etc. Plus Derrick isn't even mentioned in the review! All this despite pulling off one of the nation's largest electronic festivals without any financial backing and managing to bring the spirit, dare I say soul, back to the festival. The reason I use MTV as a thermometer is because *that is the mainstream music community*. If you think Derrick May is being recognized by the mainstream music community then you are seriously fooling yourself. Now back to our regularly featured program featuring the White Stripes and Justin Timberlake. MEK =
Re: (313) Christian Morgenstern dead
How ironic I was playing Christian Morgenstern Death Before Disko (Falko Brocksieper Mix) just the other day. That's about the only track I like off the remix LP. --- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.side-line.com/indexnew.htm Yesterday morning we learned the very sad news that Christian Morgenstern, born on the 10th of november 1975 in Düsseldorf, Germany, had died 3 days earlier of what apparently seems to be a heart faillure. http://www.forterecords.com/ J -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Metaprogram yourself. =
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
--- Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i bet if you try REALLY REALLY HARD, you could say something even more stupid than this. id tell you to soul search to really get into it, but that would be futile. No it isn't if you think about it and observe the evidence. There's a great documentary on PBS about animal behavior, they had one of the great chimpanzee researchers describe how she thinks the first first primitive religions came about with prehistoric man watching apes dance and jump around in awe of the rain. Just like how the first tools were invented form developing weapons and fighting in tribal warfare by prehistoric man. =
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
-- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] No it isn't if you think about it and observe the evidence. There's a great documentary on PBS about animal behavior, they had one of the great chimpanzee researchers describe how she thinks the first first primitive religions came about with prehistoric man watching apes dance and jump around in awe of the rain. Just like how the first tools were invented form developing weapons and fighting in tribal warfare by prehistoric man. blahblahblahblahblah. what the hell are you talking about? and youre still a f*cking idiot. on CDnow/amazon.com all non-classical music is under the popular music section. i hope something heavy falls on you from a great height. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Tour De France 03
Caught an mp3 of this today. At first listening, I didn't think that it was that great, but like Expo 2000 it worms it's way into your affections nicely with repeated listening..I've been playing it non-stop now for about 30 mins!. Very much a dance-floor track, some nice vocodered vocals very low in the mix...It's definitely techno-orientated, probably more in the vein of Steve Rachmad/Sterac meets Thomas Brinkmann via the Youngsters...and I think this is Etage 2 of the 4 on the CD and 12 released on 5/7. == Big props to those at the Bleep43 party. Cheers for coming down. Will have to reiterate cheers for Tristan and Jonny, two fantastically talented DJs. Toby www.bleep43.com
(313) ? re: Akufen set at SONAR
Just watched the video of Akufen at SONAR. A question for those who were there to witness his set: What happened at the end? At the 33minute mark the sound drops out and Marc looks frustrated; he appears to try things with both laptops (he had two), yet no sound. He then walks over to the side of the stage, talks to a guy, then back to his laptops where it looks like he was trying things before stopping; he then waves to the crowd and then walks off the stage. There's 4 minutes of video with no sound (ie 33 minutes to 37 minutes where the file ends). Is there a problem with the audio in the video for the last 4 minutes or did his setup crash and he aborted his set at the 33minute mark? What strikes me as strange is that if he had two laptops, if one had crashed, why did he not reboot that and continue at the same time with the other laptop? I can't see how both could have crashed at the same time. And rebooting only takes about 2 minutes, whereas there were 4 minutes of silence. So maybe he intended to do a 33 minute set and I just saw things differently? Anyway, if someone who was there for the actual set could clear this up, would be interested to know what happened. Thanks. Andrew out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk Sprung http://bip-hop.com http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? cat=BLEEP12fc_type=CD *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation http://techno.ca/cognition
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
Oh - ok, you're talking about being *mentioned* in some mainstream press (if being on a magazine rack equates mainstream then so is High Times and Juxtapose) - this is different that being recognized. MTV - when Carl Craig walks onto TRL and the crowd outside hold up signs saying I (heart) C2!!! then I will agree with you. There might be highlights but you never see a video, you never hear an interview, evidently they aren't buzzworthy, and I'm waiting for the day that one of their talking heads of the month comes on and declares We're here live at the Movement '05 music festival in downtown Detroit city for the next three days! instead of repeating MTV's Spring Break in Cancun '98 for the third time that week. as for the popular music thing with Amazon/CD Now - that's just to say he isn't making Classical music. They only have two general classifications at the highest level - Classical music and Popular music. You'll also find stuff like Jean Ritchie, Oumou Sangare, and Opiate in the Popular music even though you'd be hard pressed to find them being recognized within the mainstream. All said and done - you might see their names pop up but until you *hear* their music on the radio or *see* a video on MTV - they aren't being recognized because it is the music, their art, that they produce that is important. Until the day they stop paying lip service saying oh yeah - he's techno pioneer and we respect that but never play his music (or any other under represented techno/house/etc. innovator) then he/she isn't being recognized. MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw 06/23/03 03:09 PM was going on about) I think he has, artist like Jay-Z and Herbbie Hancock are well aware of who Derrick May is, I think Carl Craig is more popular though. Someone told they saw highlights of the DEMF on MTV which is about as mainstream as it gets. Carl Craig has been featured in mainstream American magazines like Rolling Stone on numerous occasions, Wasnt it you that mentioned them making the cover of Urb? Urb is on a lot of Magazine racks. Speaking of Rolling Stone I rember reading an article (or was it Spin?) about Kraftwerk when they went on tour back in the late 90's it had all the bands Kraftwerk had influenced and Carl Craig was up there with the likes of Devo. These guys are not hitting the Billboard Top 40 but that doesn't mean they are not getting recognition for their accomplishments by the music industry. If you still have any doubts look what's classifdied under Popular Music on the CDNOW: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-7582885-0525427 Innovator -- Derrick May; Audio CD Editorial Reviews Amazon.com Thanks to legendary singles like Strings of Life and Nude Photo, Derrick May is universally regarded as the definitive techno producer; by hijacking the rhythmic sensibilities of house and adding the intelligence of European electronica and the spirit of Motown, he single-handedly defined and articulated the sound of Detroit. But despite (or perhaps because of) his status as a legend, nary a bleep had emerged from his studio since 1990 before the release of Innovator, a collection of his past work. This double CD contains the aforementioned Strings and Nude Photo singles as well as other classics like It Is What It Is, Salsa Life, and The Beginning, all of which have been available only in vinyl form on May's own Transmat label. Until he reemerges from a self-imposed musical hiatus, your course in the spirit of Detroit begins and ends here. --Matthew Corwine Customers who bought this title also bought: *Faces Phases ~ Kevin Saunderson *Wax Trax! Mastermix, Vol. 1 ~ Juan Atkins *X-Mix: Transmission from Deep Space Radio ~ Kevin Saunderson *Classics [IMPORT] ~ Model 500 *Clear ~ Cybotron *A Hundred Days Off ~ Underworld *Selected Ambient Works, Vol. 2 ~ Aphex Twin *The Beatles (The White Album) ~ Beatles Explore Similar Items: 9 in Music Customers who shopped for this item also shopped for these items: *Mysterious Traveller ~ System 7, Derrick May *
Re: (313) Cartridges for SL1200's
I started out with a pair of Stanton 500AL's... they were an ok starter cartridge, basically a bargain buy for the buck. I never encountered any tracking problems with them, although they were a little fussy on cueing some records. A lot of people that experience problems with tracking and cueing probably don't have their cartridges and tonearms set up correctly, in regards to weight and angle and height. Incorrect settings will make ANY needle perform poorly regardless of how good or bad it's supposed to be. I had upgraded to Trackmaster II-SK's, they were a significant improvement over the 500's (no surprise there)... I used them for about 2 or 3 years with out any contact trouble, and I'm a DJ who's a bit rough with equipment. However, on my second set of replacement needles a while back, I got some real garbage replacement needles (via mail order)... out of the box they wouldn't play right. It took some close examination and comparing to the old needles to determine that faulty manufacturing had set the stylus at an angle that was impossible for it to play correctly on vinyl. With no time to spare and needing immediate replacement, I bought Shure M44's... they've been absolutely wonderful so far. I got a better price on them than I did on the Trackmasters, as well. A couple of guys that I know who have used Ortofon (Concordes) have nothing but praise for them. They're pricey (and trendy, of course), so definitely worth a look if money's not too tight for you. I have some Stanton 500 cartridges on my SL1200's. I'm thinking of getting me a nice new set. what are you guys using or what would you recommend??
(313) Re: Christian Morgenstern dead
The R.I.P. Christian Morgenstern part was accidentally edited out during a spell check since people are complaining about my spelling. I never saw my email make it to the list only your reply. At least he died of natural causes doing what he enjoys instead of being murderd or something like that. You idiot. He is a young man who died before his time and all you can think of is another stupid way to annoy the people on this list. I'm sure there are more than a few people on this list that knew him and you just pissed all over their mourning. Your respect for nothing is too much. GO AWAY!!! =
(313) Re: Re: Christian Morgenstern dead
- Original Message - From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: (313) Re: Christian Morgenstern dead You idiot. He is a young man who died before his time and all you can think of is another stupid way to annoy the people on this list. I'm sure there are more than a few people on this list that knew him and you just pissed all over their mourning. Your respect for nothing is too much. GO AWAY!!! The R.I.P. Christian Morgenstern part was accidentally edited out during a spell check since people are complaining about my spelling. I never saw my email make it to the list only your reply. At least he died of natural causes doing what he enjoys instead of being murderd or something like that. I posted this off-list because it doesn't belong on the list. Removing my name from the email and posting it in public does not suddenly make your commentary topical. It's still just you, taking everyone's time up with stuff about you. It offers nothing of value to the whole. Please stop now. If you must reply, do it off-list. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) dj stingray mix track id?
from the mix on Soulseek- I'm pretty sure there's only one floating around and a few folks here are familiar with it. Does anyone know the deets on the first song on there? its something I've heard on many a ghettotech mix, and I always thought it as the Drexsters, but now I'm not so sure. any other playlist info on that mix would be great! thanks, Rob Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/
