(313) 313 Weekend in London
What an amazing two days! I first stopped by John (Ramar)'s new weekly at the new club 'the Lane' on Osborne Street, just at the south end of Brick Lane. I was there for most of the last 4 hours of his 6 hour set, and it was excellent. The Voices crew are really doing some excellent stuff in London. I'm not even sure where to begin in running down his set, but suffice it to say that it would have met the approval of any DHP afficiando. >From there I wandered around the corner to catch the last hour of Tom Churchill's set. F*cking wicked! *Everyone* in the place was floored by his selection. Every single track was devastating. I'm sort of gutted that I missed the first hour despite hearing amazing stuff from Ramar at the same time. DEMF-calibre conundrum... Titonton came on and f*cking killed it. It was enormous. I'v not seen a techno (and a bit of house) set like that in ages. His scrathing was TP-superb and never overwhelming while his sense of how to mix perfectly matched the tracks he was playing - like going from cut-up madness to a three minute long-mix of deep house mix between deep house toons. And what a brilliant chap! He sacrificied the last 30 minutes of his set to let Matthew Puffet come on and mix for about an hour or so as they closed the 2nd room, since he had sold everyone in the main room, then came back on after Matthew Puffet's (also great) set and took off where he left off. Nic Larsen closed with a half-dozen classics and it was sealed. I seriously doubt anyone will forget this one. Despite a severe hangover, I made it up to Cargo for Sunday night. Some of the best £4 I've ever spent. Fat Freddy's (???)... were wicked. Their 15 minute version of Midnight Marauders was stunning, preceeded by a funk track that was almost as long and equally epic, followed by a nearly 20 minute apparently improvised song with a London ragga MC, which segued into the actual song, punctuated with the lead singer's Razzell-esque vocal-scratching after he'd just done his Motown vocals. Wow! Very cativating. Recloose followed with a nice dub-into hip hop and house set that really hit the spot. I've never been floored by his DJ mechanics, but I have to give it up for his sense of when to drop the (very) short mix despite one horrendous 4 minute train wreck in the middle that he wouldn't let go. Surprisingly, after that he proceeded to enter deep house mixing zone and rode it out in immaculate style, carrying every mix at legth to perfection. What a way to end a beautful weekend in London! With so much coming up, this is shaping up to be a legendary Summer! Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Phonopsia wrote: Despite a severe hangover, I made it up to Cargo for Sunday night. Some of the best £4 I've ever spent. Fat Freddy's (???)... were wicked. Their 15 That'd be Fat Freddy's Drop from Wellington/NZ. I saw them in Sydney/AU earlier on in the year and they were absolutely wicked. Apparently the lead singer (Dallas) is doing some work with Recloose in the studio for some upcoming Recloose stuff and also I think Dallas and the saxophonist from Fat Freddy's has just done a live show together for the North Sea Jazz Festival. Or was that a show elsewhere in Europe. Can't remember for sure... hazy memory...
(313) fx mix
anyone got the kirk de giorgio fx mix 01 ? i had a listen in a shop but the tracks sounded a bit weak. i was hoping for some deep & deconstructed broken beat & house action but i'm not sure if it's really that kind of thing. hmmm. also checked out the tejada / leviste 'fairfax sake' (truly awful title imho) on playhouse. ummm nice but ordinary ? p
RE: (313) TONIGHT + TOMORROW: ele_mental 10 year anniversary party w/ DEGO, DOORMOUSE, ELE_MENTAL DJs + LIVE ACTS!!! (fwd)
Doormouse and Fishead together... now that's a party. -Original Message- From: ::P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) TONIGHT + TOMORROW: ele_mental 10 year anniversary party w/ DEGO, DOORMOUSE, ELE_MENTAL DJs + LIVE ACTS!!! (fwd) doormouse is scary :P - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 5:29 PM Subject: (313) TONIGHT + TOMORROW: ele_mental 10 year anniversary party w/ DEGO, DOORMOUSE, ELE_MENTAL DJs + LIVE ACTS!!! (fwd) > - Forwarded message from Todd Sines - > > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:24:23 -0400 > From: Todd Sines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: TONIGHT + TOMORROW: ele_mental 10 year anniversary party w/ DEGO, DOORMOUSE, ELE_MENTAL DJs + LIVE ACTS!!! > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i > X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > sorry for the confusion everyone, but due to some unfortunate circumstances > with The Factory + the Buggyworks the More than Music festival has been > cancelled. However, some shows are still going on. > > TONIGHT @ DRAGONFLY / NEO: 247 King Avenue, Columbus, OH 43201 > 614.298.9986 * http://www.dragonflyneov.com/ > > > ele_mental 10 year anniversary part 1. > + > DJs ... boogie, house, tech jazz mashups > DEGO [4 HERO, Reinforced, 2000 Black, Talkin' Loud] > ED LUNA aka LUNAR [ele_mental] > TODD SINES [Planet E, Peacefrog, Residual, 2122] > > live > DOORMOUSE [breakcore / noise] tbc > > 10 PM - LATE > $5 or pay what you can! > > AND > > tomorrow night > DRAGONFLY / NEO: 247 King Avenue, Columbus, OH 43201 > 614.298.9986 * http://www.dragonflyneov.com/ > > > ele_mental 10 year anniversary part 2. > + > ele_mental sound system > featuring ele_mental + Residual DJs > THOMAS JAMES > MAKKU DA KUTTA > MIKE SOLOMON > DOUG BLACK > ADAM YURATOVAC > ROB RAGE > MIKE LAUFF > POWERHOUSE > L BLACK > MELODY + MELIA > > TODD SINES [LIVE] > GEOFF WHITE [LIVE] tbc > > + > > 8 PM - LATE > $5 or pay what you can! > > PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD! call all of your friends! > email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for my phone number if you need it. > > > also.. tonight! > > RJD2 - Little Brothers... 12-2 $10 > > "Alright, so the More Than Music Festival is > kaput, BUT RJD2 is still in town and will be > playing a last minute show at LITTLE BROTHERS > (1100 N. High Street) from 12:00 - 2:00am. > SPREAD THE WORD! Cover is a mere ten bucks and > well worth it...have you seen this man in > action?!" > > we hope to see you later! > > > > > +odd > -- > + SCALE : http://www.scalestudio.com/ > /// > connecting the space between and within. > > - End of forwarded message from Todd Sines - > > -- > Todd Sines > icq: 7580 > SCALE:form | image | sound > http://www.scalestudio.com
Re: (313) Blech (Warp 040)
it was originally a cassette. but it now available on CD: http://www.warprecords.com/ography/release.php?cat=WARP44 i don;t know about running order difference On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > Is Blech a cassette-only release? And, does anyone remember the free Blech > tape given away with Muzik (RIP all is forgiven!!)? I had it years ago but > lost it, and looking at the official tracklisting on Discogs, it seems to > have a different running order! > > Any help is much appreciated. (Anyone selling Blech?) > > Cheers, > > Andrew > > PS. As an incentive I have the Muzik Magazine tape with the unreleased > version of Solitary Confinement by Florence, a beautiful electro track. Maybe > we can swapsies? ;-) >
RE: (313) Blech (Warp 040)
Sorry mate, that's Blechdottir, the follow-up. The first Blech is much more rare (apparently) and the Muzik Magazine tape is probably rarer than that. Someone out there must have it though... I have already sourced a CDR of Blech 1, thanks to a kind and generous 313er, so it's only the Muzik tape that eludes me. If anyone can help it will be rewarded! Cheers, Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 7/14/2003 7:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: (313) Blech (Warp 040) it was originally a cassette. but it now available on CD: http://www.warprecords.com/ography/release.php?cat=WARP44 i don;t know about running order difference On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > Is Blech a cassette-only release? And, does anyone remember the free Blech > tape given away with Muzik (RIP all is forgiven!!)? I had it years ago but > lost it, and looking at the official tracklisting on Discogs, it seems to > have a different running order! > > Any help is much appreciated. (Anyone selling Blech?) > > Cheers, > > Andrew > > PS. As an incentive I have the Muzik Magazine tape with the unreleased > version of Solitary Confinement by Florence, a beautiful electro track. Maybe > we can swapsies? ;-) >
(313) London 313'ers - 19/7
Just a quick reminder to all 313'ers that Rob Euroh, Brighton's resident scratch demon and electro DJ of the highest order, will be at our next Bleep43 party on Saturday. Details at www.bleep43.com
RE: (313) Blech (Warp 040)
The Blech! cassette was given away by WAX Magazine, not Muzik and has a different tracklisting from the Blech CD (although some of the tracks are the same). They were both mixed by PC and Strickly Kev of DJ Food (Ninjatune). IIRC the cassette mix is dotted with samples from John Carpenter's Darkstar, but it's been a while since I've heard the CD - the CD and the cassette are distinctly different though. They're both excellent and worth tracking down. Andrew - I have the cassette and can do you a tape of it. I might be able to get someone to do a CDR of it. Hit me back off list and I'll try and sort something out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Blech (Warp 040) Sorry mate, that's Blechdottir, the follow-up. The first Blech is much more rare (apparently) and the Muzik Magazine tape is probably rarer than that. Someone out there must have it though... I have already sourced a CDR of Blech 1, thanks to a kind and generous 313er, so it's only the Muzik tape that eludes me. If anyone can help it will be rewarded! Cheers, Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 7/14/2003 7:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: (313) Blech (Warp 040) it was originally a cassette. but it now available on CD: http://www.warprecords.com/ography/release.php?cat=WARP44 i don;t know about running order difference On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > Is Blech a cassette-only release? And, does anyone remember the free Blech > tape given away with Muzik (RIP all is forgiven!!)? I had it years ago but > lost it, and looking at the official tracklisting on Discogs, it seems to > have a different running order! > > Any help is much appreciated. (Anyone selling Blech?) > > Cheers, > > Andrew > > PS. As an incentive I have the Muzik Magazine tape with the unreleased > version of Solitary Confinement by Florence, a beautiful electro track. Maybe > we can swapsies? ;-) > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?
isiah thomas was #33 for the detroit pistons... maybe its that! ab -Original Message- From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:59 PM To: 313 detroit Subject: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? hi list, i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one i can't find it in google can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ? txs RAW btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose, carl en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha (check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of the festival ) RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) aux 88 track id
At 17:54 13-7-2003, scotto wrote: it has this lyric it "all i want to do is rock with you", and a few others that i'm not sure of fully. think it's 2x12 on DB, but not sure. The track is called 'Don't Stop it'. It's on the 2x12" Xeo-Genetic (DB4W-037) released in 1998 on Direct Beat. R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
RE: (313) Pepe Bradock Mix
> > Is that a sample or a remake of the bassline? > > It sounds a little more "synthy" than the sugar hill version... The bassline is orignally from Chic Good Times If Im not mistaken [sampled to death] but sounds processed/filtered in some crazy way - anyone know what the tune is ? Ta, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Pepe Bradock Mix
Yep correct - first I thought: 'that is so cliched/obvious' etc, then you hear how much the b-line has been fuffed with! Nice :-) k >-Original Message- >From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:41 AM >To: 'Maarten Baute'; Michael Long; Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org >Subject: RE: (313) Pepe Bradock Mix > > > >> > Is that a sample or a remake of the bassline? >> > It sounds a little more "synthy" than the sugar hill version... > >The bassline is orignally from Chic Good Times If Im not mistaken [sampled >to death] but sounds processed/filtered in some crazy way - anyone >know what >the tune is ? > >Ta, >marc > >--- >--- >This message is intended only for the personal and confidential >use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not >the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified >that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this >message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for >information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer >to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial >product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an >official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot >be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not >represent that this information is complete or accurate and it >should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to >change without notice. > > >
(313) Liquid Liquid
Hi there, got the opportunity to see the legendary Liquid Liquid last night at the Sub Club- mightily impressed- real loose limbed crazy funk with "shouty" vocals and a groove that just wouldn't stop. Kind of reminded me of a more "out there" talking Heads circa Fear Of Music- I know they've been sampled a few times (apart from White Lines)- anyone know some of the more famous lifts by Carl Craig etc.? cheers Jason Brunton PS Respect to list member Sean Creen for persuading me to go down- might have missed a great night otherwise
Re: (313) Liquid Liquid
I cant wait to see them.. I got their 3 biggest ep's on 99 did they do 'optiumo' I'm sure bell head has been lifted on enough tracks.. The cow bells are v fam,iliar... On 14/7/03 10:08 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > got the opportunity to see the legendary Liquid Liquid last night at > the Sub Club- mightily impressed- real loose limbed crazy funk with > "shouty" vocals and a groove that just wouldn't stop. Kind of reminded > me of a more "out there" talking Heads circa Fear Of Music- I know > they've been sampled a few times (apart from White Lines)- anyone know > some of the more famous lifts by Carl Craig etc.? > > cheers > > Jason Brunton > > PS Respect to list member Sean Creen for persuading me to go down- > might have missed a great night otherwise >
Re: (313) Liquid Liquid
They sure did- the club night they were playing at was called "Optimo", named in their honour i believe. The percussion playing was all hot- marimbas, xylophone, timbale and more. Jason On Monday, July 14, 2003, at 11:36 am, Placid wrote: I cant wait to see them.. I got their 3 biggest ep's on 99 did they do 'optiumo' I'm sure bell head has been lifted on enough tracks.. The cow bells are v fam,iliar... On 14/7/03 10:08 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(313) Promotion Question...
Am looking to start promoting myself DJ-wisecan anyone recommend any sites/resources which would have good information on this. Im not sure on things like if its better for me to target agencies/venues etc etc... Any info/advice/links muchos appreciated !! Peace, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
> > Recloose followed with a nice dub-into hip hop and house set that really hit > the spot. I've never been floored by his DJ mechanics, but I have to give it > up for his sense of when to drop the (very) short mix despite one horrendous > 4 minute train wreck in the middle that he wouldn't let go. Surprisingly, > after that he proceeded to enter deep house mixing zone and rode it out in > immaculate style, carrying every mix at legth to perfection. What a way to > end a beautful weekend in London! With so much coming up, this is shaping up > to be a legendary Summer! we had recloose up here at Eyes Down in manchester over the weekend. played more of a hiphop/downtempo set (probs to fit the night, eyes down aint known for it's techno :) ) which left the detroit heads wanting but overall was a proper groovin set... robin...
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
I thought it was very average in Manchester. If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd go to one. Is this what planet-e is pushing for? And he could have played some better hip hop too *snigger*. Apart from that, the fact that an MC was talking over everything and one air conditioning wall unit upstairs blowing smoke really made it an average night. And those curtains just did NOTHING except get in the way. Whats the point? |-Original Message- |From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 12:20 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |> |> Recloose followed with a nice dub-into hip hop and house set that |> really hit the spot. I've never been floored by his DJ |mechanics, but |> I have to give it up for his sense of when to drop the (very) short |> mix despite one horrendous 4 minute train wreck in the |middle that he |> wouldn't let go. Surprisingly, after that he proceeded to enter deep |> house mixing zone and rode it out in immaculate style, |carrying every |> mix at legth to perfection. What a way to end a beautful weekend in |> London! With so much coming up, this is shaping up to be a legendary |> Summer! | | |we had recloose up here at Eyes Down in manchester over the |weekend. played more of a hiphop/downtempo set (probs to fit |the night, eyes down aint known for it's techno :) ) which |left the detroit heads wanting but overall was a proper groovin set... | | | |robin... |
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
re. recloose in Manc. >If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd go to one. >Is this what planet-e is pushing for? You DID go to one. Eyes Down is a hip hop gig. I don't think Planet E had anything to do with it. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It must be a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum and bass. |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 13:10 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | | |re. recloose in Manc. | |>If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd go to one. |>Is this what planet-e is pushing for? | |You DID go to one. Eyes Down is a hip hop gig. |I don't think Planet E had anything to do with it. | | | | | | | |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | |
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
dont forget larry heard did a few very good drum and bass tunes - its all possible! ab -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:38 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It must be a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum and bass. |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 13:10 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | | |re. recloose in Manc. | |>If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd go to one. |>Is this what planet-e is pushing for? | |You DID go to one. Eyes Down is a hip hop gig. |I don't think Planet E had anything to do with it. | | | | | | | |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | | --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) Blech (Warp 040)
The original Blech (Wap MC 40) is a cassette only release and is long OOP. The CD mentioned below is Blechsdottir (Blech II) and is a completely different animal. jeff http://www.warprecords.com/ography/release.php?cat=WARP44 i don;t know about running order difference On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > Is Blech a cassette-only release?
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It must be >a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum and >bass. WTF? It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop party, because that's where they come from. alot of their guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ? and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do something different at no personal gain for the people in Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying. Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can you not look to the positive points? They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I dunno. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Ryan Snowden wrote on Mon, 14 Jul 2003 about following: > A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It must be oh boy i feel that there is yet another roots of hip hop and electro discussion coming. it's current trend to play old funk, disco & soul in hip hop gigs, why not deep house, it's not that far.. sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Cr4p to that. If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in detroit who has a few half baked outdated hip hop records in his collection which SURPRISE he is partial too. That combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin' really takes the piss! I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can deal with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really". That's not progression, its LAME. |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | | |>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It |>must |be |>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum |>and bass. | |WTF? | |It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress |things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip |hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop |party, because that's where they come from. alot of their |guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to |put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry |that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the |asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to |their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who |was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ? | |and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do |something different at no personal gain for the people in |Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying. | |Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying |that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can |you not look to the positive points? | |They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still |went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was |there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to |me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a |curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I |dunno. |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | |
RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?
Isiah Thomas was #11. -Original Message- From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:15 AM To: RAW2019; 313 detroit Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? isiah thomas was #33 for the detroit pistons... maybe its that! ab -Original Message- From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:59 PM To: 313 detroit Subject: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? hi list, i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one i can't find it in google can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ? txs RAW btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose, carl en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha (check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of the festival ) RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
not sure if you are aware of this but there are people who want to go out and listen to quality music across a few different genres and just want to have a bit of fun with their mates. not everyone who goes to a club stands in a corner stroking their chin and taking notes on a pad. NOTE : THIS IS A HOUSE DJ PLAYING HIP HOP OH MY GOD I MUST GET ALL UPSET ON MY INTERNET MAILING LIST TOMORROW! ab -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:57 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London Cr4p to that. If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in detroit who has a few half baked outdated hip hop records in his collection which SURPRISE he is partial too. That combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin' really takes the piss! I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can deal with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really". That's not progression, its LAME. |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | | |>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It |>must |be |>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum |>and bass. | |WTF? | |It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress |things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip |hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop |party, because that's where they come from. alot of their |guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to |put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry |that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the |asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to |their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who |was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ? | |and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do |something different at no personal gain for the people in |Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying. | |Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying |that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can |you not look to the positive points? | |They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still |went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was |there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to |me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a |curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I |dunno. |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | | --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
I think it's lame to go to a gig and hope everything confirms to a narrowly prescribed set of parameters - ie it all must be techno. There's not enough diversity in clubbing and I applaud anyone making the effort to promote variety in a club night. -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:27 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London Cr4p to that. If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in detroit who has a few half baked outdated hip hop records in his collection which SURPRISE he is partial too. That combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin' really takes the piss! I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can deal with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really". That's not progression, its LAME. |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | | |>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It |>must |be |>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum |>and bass. | |WTF? | |It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress |things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip |hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop |party, because that's where they come from. alot of their |guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to |put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry |that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the |asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to |their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who |was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ? | |and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do |something different at no personal gain for the people in |Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying. | |Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying |that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can |you not look to the positive points? | |They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still |went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was |there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to |me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a |curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I |dunno. |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | | # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Ryan Snowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I thought it was very average in Manchester. If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd > go to one. Is this what planet-e is pushing for? And he could have played > some better hip hop too *snigger*. Apart from that, the fact that an MC was > talking over everything and one air conditioning wall unit upstairs blowing > smoke really made it an average night. And those curtains just did NOTHING > except get in the way. Whats the point? but this was at Eyes Down...they love their hiphop and i'll groove to anything that's quality and played on a nice clear PA that shakes plaster off the ceiling, and by people who are properly into this not just in it for the cash... people need to let go of the "i'll only dance to _insert fave genre_", a nice variety in a night really grabs me now rather than 5 hours of seemlessly blended techno loops...don't get me wrong i love techno too but if they're not playing that i don't fret but appreciate when i do go to a techno nite... oh yeah and about the venue...i love the down and dirty vibe of the place (band on the wall) it feels more like a party (as in block party) and less like i'm meant to be wearing a shirt and shiney shoes... overall hats off to the Eyes Down gang for putting him on robin...
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
> oh boy i feel that there is yet another roots of hip hop and electro > discussion coming. it's current trend to play old funk, disco > & soul in > hip hop gigs, why not deep house, it's not that far.. Surely origins of hip-hop = cuttin up old funk/disco etc ? Anyhoo who cares as long as theres booty shakin soul in the music !! Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
(313) Ken or Mojo or Greg ?
Hi 313ers, Looks like I've opened a can of worms here, but it's an interesting one. Thanks for all the links and info, but how comes one of the key players in the rise of Electro/Techno never gets mentioned - Greg Wilson. md > |-Original Message- > |From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > |Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:55 PM > |To: 313 > |Subject: (313) Ken or Mojo > | > | > |Hey 313ers... > |I'm writing a piece on "back in the day" in Sheffield/Detroit (74-82) and > |I'm interested in finding out more about Ken and Mojo, who was the first to > |champion techno for example? Can anyone point me at any info. > | > |Md > | > | > >
RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?
33 is grant hill isnt it? also, ive seen these 33 shirts.. its got to be a basketball thing ab -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:02 PM To: '313 detroit' Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? Isiah Thomas was #11. -Original Message- From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:15 AM To: RAW2019; 313 detroit Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? isiah thomas was #33 for the detroit pistons... maybe its that! ab -Original Message- From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:59 PM To: 313 detroit Subject: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? hi list, i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one i can't find it in google can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ? txs RAW btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose, carl en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha (check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of the festival ) RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
(313) for londoners <- Re: (313) Liquid Liquid
TUESDAY 15TH JULY LIQUID LIQUID / COLDER / MU / 7-HURTZ DJ'S TREVOR JACKSON & MAURICE FULTON CANVAS (OPPOSITE THE CROSS) KINGS CROSS GOODS YARD 9-3AM / £15 culled from http://www.plasticpeople.co.uk Cheers, Anya > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon 14/Jul/2003 09:08 GMT > To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: (313) Liquid Liquid > > Hi there, > > got the opportunity to see the legendary Liquid Liquid last night at > the Sub Club- mightily impressed- real loose limbed crazy funk with > "shouty" vocals and a groove that just wouldn't stop. Kind of reminded > me of a more "out there" talking Heads circa Fear Of Music- I know > they've been sampled a few times (apart from White Lines)- anyone know > some of the more famous lifts by Carl Craig etc.? > > cheers > > Jason Brunton > > PS Respect to list member Sean Creen for persuading me to go down- > might have missed a great night otherwise __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Has everyone gone mad? If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out in gospel house do you? |-Original Message- |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 14:36 |To: Ryan Snowden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |I think it's lame to go to a gig and hope everything confirms |to a narrowly prescribed set of parameters - ie it all must be |techno. There's not enough diversity in clubbing and I applaud |anyone making the effort to promote variety in a club night. | |-Original Message- |From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:27 PM |To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |Cr4p to that. | |If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then |you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in |detroit who has a few half baked outdated hip hop records in |his collection which SURPRISE he is partial too. That |combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin' really |takes the piss! I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can |deal with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really". |That's not progression, its LAME. | ||-Original Message- ||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ||Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26 ||To: 313@hyperreal.org ||Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London || || || ||>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It ||>must ||be ||>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum ||>and bass. || ||WTF? || ||It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress ||things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip ||hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop ||party, because that's where they come from. alot of their ||guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to ||put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry ||that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the ||asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to ||their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who ||was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ? || ||and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do ||something different at no personal gain for the people in ||Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying. || ||Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying ||that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can ||you not look to the positive points? || ||They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still ||went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was ||there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to ||me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a ||curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I ||dunno. ||_ || ||- End of message text || ||This e-mail is sent by the above named in their ||individual, non-business capacity and is not on ||behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. || ||PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming ||e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and ||telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you ||give your consent to such monitoring || || || |### |## |Note: | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do |not necessarily represent |those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless |specifically stated. This email |and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely |for the use of the |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have |received this email in |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Thank You. |### |## |
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Langsman, Marc wrote on Mon, 14 Jul 2003 about following: > > > oh boy i feel that there is yet another roots of hip hop and electro > > Surely origins of hip-hop = cuttin up old funk/disco etc ? now what did i just say... :) > Anyhoo who cares > as long as theres booty shakin soul in the music !! exactly. good music is good music no matter what. sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
>That's not progression, its LAME. come back to me when you've made your contribution. either that, or spare a thought at how much effort it takes, or financial contribution to do something. undergound music is a d.i.y thing. You MUST make your contribution. We take pleasure from people around the world busting their balls to make their own little effort so that we can enjoy it and take our personal pleasure from it. Be it putting out records, or doing parties. If everyone was take take take, the whole thing would fall apart very quickly because a) they're ain't no money in it, b) it's a lot of hard work for little thanks or monetary gain. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
> Has everyone gone mad? i dunno you possess a very 90s attitude to musicthis is the next millenium manthings changepeople (as i see it) want to go to a club and listen to just good music, whatever genre that's wat this whole non-mixing thing is all about...it allows you to move between genres better... (for a discussion on this see archives...it was a long discussion, don't assume that i think non-mixing is a totally good thing) > If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out > in gospel house do you? he'd be all the more interesting if he did...along with a shed load of other stylesanyway from what i hear (not seen him myself since 95) vogel plays all sorts of mad musics... robin...
SV: (313) 313 Weekend in London
If you buy a record and Mad Mike is producing, you don't expect him to break out in gospel house??? But then he went Mad many years ago... Recloose was a hiphop-dj in the beginning btw Peace! /Hansi -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 14 juli 2003 14:40 Till: 'Robert Taylor'; Ryan Snowden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Ämne: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London Has everyone gone mad? If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out in gospel house do you? |-Original Message- |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 14:36 |To: Ryan Snowden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |I think it's lame to go to a gig and hope everything confirms |to a narrowly prescribed set of parameters - ie it all must be |techno. There's not enough diversity in clubbing and I applaud |anyone making the effort to promote variety in a club night. | |-Original Message- |From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:27 PM |To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |Cr4p to that. | |If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then |you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in |detroit who has a few half baked outdated hip hop records in |his collection which SURPRISE he is partial too. That |combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin' really |takes the piss! I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can |deal with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really". |That's not progression, its LAME. | ||-Original Message- ||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ||Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26 ||To: 313@hyperreal.org ||Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London || || || ||>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It ||>must ||be ||>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum ||>and bass. || ||WTF? || ||It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress ||things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip ||hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop ||party, because that's where they come from. alot of their ||guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to ||put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry ||that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the ||asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to ||their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who ||was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ? || ||and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do ||something different at no personal gain for the people in ||Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying. || ||Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying ||that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can ||you not look to the positive points? || ||They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still ||went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was ||there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to ||me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a ||curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I ||dunno. ||_ || ||- End of message text || ||This e-mail is sent by the above named in their ||individual, non-business capacity and is not on ||behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. || ||PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming ||e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and ||telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you ||give your consent to such monitoring || || || |### |## |Note: | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do |not necessarily represent |those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless |specifically stated. This email |and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely |for the use of the |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have |received this email in |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Thank You. |### |## |
(313) breakbeat good life?
K Alexi and Gene Hunt played here friday night and Gene Hunt played a white label 'Good Life' remix I'd neve heard before -- jazzy breakbeats, the vocal with loads of echo, very sparing use of samples of the original. What the eff was that? Gene also played some Ron Hardy reel to reel tape edits (off of CDR) frome wy back in the day. Super raw Acid House. Very nice set, staying deep but with a lot of variety. K Alexi was good but the 200 shows I've either done sound for or attended are catching up with me -- I didn't have earplugs with me and the sound was starting to get painful, so I had to leave after 1/2 hour.
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
No, but it would be cool! Mills got cussed when he started playing disco cuts amongst his usual fare but sensible and open-minded people thought it was an inspired move. Are you one of those guys who moans at a Hood gig cos he plays Destiny's Child or Wu Tang? Possibly my favourite DJ is Laurent Garnier and he plays a bit of everything from house to techno to d'n'b to rave - and we love him for it. Why do think so many people rate FK ferchrissakes? I heard him an astonishing variety of genres at his last gig at Plastic People - I only heard one person bitching about it and he was a total nob. One of the reasons I'm looking forward to Carl Craig at Plastic People in London is because I am hoping he will mix it up. -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:40 PM To: Robert Taylor; Ryan Snowden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London Has everyone gone mad? If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out in gospel house do you? |-Original Message- |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 14:36 |To: Ryan Snowden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |I think it's lame to go to a gig and hope everything confirms |to a narrowly prescribed set of parameters - ie it all must be |techno. There's not enough diversity in clubbing and I applaud |anyone making the effort to promote variety in a club night. | |-Original Message- |From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:27 PM |To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |Cr4p to that. | |If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then |you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in |detroit who has a few half baked outdated hip hop records in |his collection which SURPRISE he is partial too. That |combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin' really |takes the piss! I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can |deal with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really". |That's not progression, its LAME. | ||-Original Message- ||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ||Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26 ||To: 313@hyperreal.org ||Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London || || || ||>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco. Interesting. It ||>must ||be ||>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum ||>and bass. || ||WTF? || ||It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress ||things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip ||hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop ||party, because that's where they come from. alot of their ||guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to ||put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry ||that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the ||asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to ||their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who ||was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ? || ||and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do ||something different at no personal gain for the people in ||Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying. || ||Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying ||that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can ||you not look to the positive points? || ||They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still ||went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was ||there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to ||me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a ||curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I ||dunno. ||_ || ||- End of message text || ||This e-mail is sent by the above named in their ||individual, non-business capacity and is not on ||behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. || ||PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming ||e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and ||telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you ||give your consent to such monitoring || || || |### |## |Note: | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do |not necessarily represent |those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless |specifically stated. This email |and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely |for the use of the |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have |received this email in |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Thank You. |### |## |
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
>If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out >in gospel house do you? well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno parties if he did. and not just us 'geeks' eh? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) breakbeat good life?
> K Alexi and Gene Hunt played here friday night and Gene Hunt played > a white label 'Good Life' remix I'd neve heard before -- jazzy breakbeats, > the vocal with loads of echo, very sparing use of samples of the original. > What the eff was that? kaori? http://www.discogs.com/release/76296 robin...
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
very good point, and one that's easy to forget/lose sight of...you're just a consumer otherwise...then you're stuck with Pete Tong/judge jules/fergie as the only type of dj that you see/hear a personal hell that one... r > >That's not progression, its LAME. > > come back to me when you've made your contribution. > > either that, or spare a thought at how much effort it takes, or financial > contribution to do something. > > undergound music is a d.i.y thing. You MUST make your contribution. > We take pleasure from people around the world busting their balls to make > their own little effort so that we can enjoy it and take our personal > pleasure from it. Be it putting out records, or doing parties. > > If everyone was take take take, the whole thing would fall apart very > quickly because a) they're ain't no money in it, b) it's a lot of hard work > for little thanks or monetary gain.
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Its funny you should ask I helped promote Recloose and common factor back in 2001 at a gig called Raw Funk, also villalobos, eddie flashin fowlkes, heiko laux, alexander kowalski, isolee. Don't rant onto me about contribution and sacrafice. Promoters should know if they're coming or going - not just shove on a gig which cross-covers music genre's. You're a sell out promoter who's just trying to get punters if you start doing a sankeys. |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 13:49 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | | |>That's not progression, its LAME. | |come back to me when you've made your contribution. | |either that, or spare a thought at how much effort it takes, |or financial contribution to do something. | |undergound music is a d.i.y thing. You MUST make your |contribution. We take pleasure from people around the world |busting their balls to make their own little effort so that we |can enjoy it and take our personal pleasure from it. Be it |putting out records, or doing parties. | |If everyone was take take take, the whole thing would fall |apart very quickly because a) they're ain't no money in it, b) |it's a lot of hard work for little thanks or monetary gain. | |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | |
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt play techno? Strange... On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 08:54 America/Detroit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out in gospel house do you? well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno parties if he did. and not just us 'geeks' eh? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Promoters should know if they're coming or going - not just shove on a gig which cross-covers music genre's. You're a sell out promoter who's just trying to get punters if you start doing a sankeys. >>>One word: Bollocks # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Yeah maybe if he played classical with a hint of death metal it might attract a crowd. |-Original Message- |From: Adam H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 14:06 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | |People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if |he didnt |play techno? | |Strange... | | | |On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 08:54 America/Detroit, |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |wrote: | |> |>> If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to |>> break out |>> in gospel house do you? |> |> well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno |> parties |> if he did. |> |> and not just us 'geeks' eh? |> _ |> |> - End of message text |> |> This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |> individual, non-business capacity and is not on |> behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. |> |> PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and |> other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. |> By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring |> |> |> |
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
> Yeah maybe if he played classical with a hint of death metal it might > attract a crowd. if the nite is a death metal nite with a broad mind and people enjoy it what's the problem? (hopefully you'll see the parallels with saturday in that) robin...
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
I don't see what broad mindedness has to do with people going along to see recloose, a house producer on a primarily house record label and expecting to hear house. The broadmindedness comes in when they can still have a good time. And let me make this clear, I danced all night and I *also* had a great time. Not because I'm broad minded, but because life is too short :-) |-Original Message- |From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 14 July 2003 14:10 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London | | | |> Yeah maybe if he played classical with a hint of death metal |it might |> attract a crowd. | | |if the nite is a death metal nite with a broad mind and people |enjoy it what's the problem? | |(hopefully you'll see the parallels with saturday in that) | |robin... |
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Aaaarrgggh! There are lot of people who want to hear more than just techno when they go out. Many older clubbers (not me, I hasten to add) have stopped going clubbing cos they have gotten bored of the tyranny of the kick drum and would be tempted back by a bit of diversity. To cater for that isn't commercialism, it's common sense - commercial clubs are NOT diverse in the music policy - the kids at the moment love kick drums and little else (hence the popularity of hard house and hard trance). Haven't we been here before? Somebody ain't listening or is obtusely missing the point. -Original Message- From: Adam H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt play techno? Strange... On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 08:54 America/Detroit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to >> break out >> in gospel house do you? > > well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno > parties > if he did. > > and not just us 'geeks' eh? > _ > > - End of message text > > This e-mail is sent by the above named in their > individual, non-business capacity and is not on > behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you > give your consent to such monitoring > > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Ken or Mojo or Greg ?
for more info http://www.jahsonic.com/GregWilson.html so anyone have any tapes of the piccadilly radio shows (or any mixes by greg) they'd be willing to share? i'm curious. (i could even host em on my website for sharing with people if that was cool...if not cool i'm still interested!) robin... > > Looks like I've opened a can of worms here, but it's an interesting one. > > Thanks for all the links and info, but how comes one of the key players in > the rise of Electro/Techno never gets mentioned - Greg Wilson. > > md > > > > |-Original Message- > > |From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > |Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:55 PM > > |To: 313 > > |Subject: (313) Ken or Mojo > > | > > | > > |Hey 313ers... > > |I'm writing a piece on "back in the day" in Sheffield/Detroit (74-82) and > > |I'm interested in finding out more about Ken and Mojo, who was the first to > > |champion techno for example? Can anyone point me at any info. > > | > > |Md > > | > > | > >
(313) WBAR - Playlist - 7-11
DJ Skooch (www.skooch.com) July 11, 2003 5:30-8:00pm EST WBAR - 87.9 - live stream www.wbar.org Moodyman - Forevernevermore - KDJ Moodyman - Sunday Morning - Planet E Common Factor & John Redmond - World is Mine - Planet E Soul Dharma - Flowers (KOT Mix) - Velocity Glenn Underground - Trek A1 70$ - 3 to 5 Rick Wade - Still Angry - Touch of Class Alton Miller - Extasol - Planet E Pepe Braddock - Life - Atavisme Mighty Dub Katz - Just Another Groove - Smile Mighty Dub Katz - Magic Carpet Ride - Smile Everything but the Girl - 5 Fathoms (? Rmx) - White Sade - Haunt Me (Sneak Rmx) - White Paperclip People - Climax (Dobre and Jamez Rmx) - Touche Prince - Controvery (Purple Mix) - White Todd Terry - When You Hold Me - TNT Daft Punk - Around the World (MAW Mixes) - Virgin Daft Punk - Around the World - Virgin Daft Punk - Da Funk (AVH Mix) - Virgin Dajae - Everyday My Life - Kid Dynamite Atom... - Fever - Plastic City Toronto Track Company - When the Spirits Rise - DNH PJ w/ Saxy - All I Can Give - Stickman Common Factor - Over You - Tactile Eddie Flashin Fowlkes - Soul Train - City Boy DJ Pierre - Atom Bomb - Twisted Paul Johnson - MuthaF*cka - Relief Green Velvet - The Stalker - Relief Boo Williams - Last Call - Relief Roy Davis Jr - Clap Your Hands - Strictly Rhythm MJB - Beautiful - White KOT - Fade II Black - Yoshitoshi Dubtribe - Samba Dub - Imperial Dub Francois K - Time & Space - NRK Dubtribe - Acceleration - Organico Garth & ETI - 20 Minutes of Disco Glory (Organ Grinder Mix) - Grayhound I:cube - Disco Cubism (Daft Punk Rmx) - Versatile The MP3s are available on my site www.skooch.com in the Sounds section or via direct link from: http://www.skooch.com/Sounds/Skooch-WBAR-7-11-03-1.mp3 http://www.skooch.com/Sounds/Skooch-WBAR-7-11-03-2.mp3 The second track starts towards the end of the MAW Remixes of "Around the World" Mixing and programming are not all that great but I was tired.
(313) Ken or Greg Collier ?
313ers... I'm still very short on info on Ken Collier and his brother Greg, can anyone help, I'm sure this timeline work I'm doing is going to kill me but it seems that there are "massive gaps" in the history on both sides of the sea, legend and myth is one thing, but some of the info I have seems to be very revisionist. I'm not that interested in who was first, I'm interested in who the players where? Many don't seem to be named in anything I've read but the more people I speak to the more these names keep cropping up, so if anyone in Detroit can help I'd be grateful... Anyone with a contact for Greg Wilson in Manchester? md 14/7/03 1:22 PM robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > for more info > > http://www.jahsonic.com/GregWilson.html > > so anyone have any tapes of the piccadilly radio shows (or any mixes > by greg) they'd be willing to share? i'm curious. (i could even host em > on my website for sharing with people if that was cool...if not cool i'm > still interested!) > > > robin... > > > >> >> Looks like I've opened a can of worms here, but it's an interesting one. >> >> Thanks for all the links and info, but how comes one of the key players in >> the rise of Electro/Techno never gets mentioned - Greg Wilson. >> >> md >> >> >>> |-Original Message- >>> |From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> |Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:55 PM >>> |To: 313 >>> |Subject: (313) Ken or Mojo >>> | >>> | >>> |Hey 313ers... >>> |I'm writing a piece on "back in the day" in Sheffield/Detroit (74-82) and >>> |I'm interested in finding out more about Ken and Mojo, who was the first to >>> |champion techno for example? Can anyone point me at any info. >>> | >>> |Md >>> | >>> | >>> > >
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Tyranny of the kick drum eh? O_o _I dont have a problem with diversity_ but I do have a problem with non-techno somehow being a techno progression, getting people into "techno parties" by not playing techno, etc etc On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 10:13 America/Detroit, Robert Taylor wrote: Aaaarrgggh! There are lot of people who want to hear more than just techno when they go out. Many older clubbers (not me, I hasten to add) have stopped going clubbing cos they have gotten bored of the tyranny of the kick drum and would be tempted back by a bit of diversity. To cater for that isn't commercialism, it's common sense - commercial clubs are NOT diverse in the music policy - the kids at the moment love kick drums and little else (hence the popularity of hard house and hard trance). Haven't we been here before? Somebody ain't listening or is obtusely missing the point. -Original Message- From: Adam H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt play techno? Strange... On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 08:54 America/Detroit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out in gospel house do you? well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno parties if he did. and not just us 'geeks' eh? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
>Its funny you should ask >I helped promote Recloose and common factor back in 2001 at a gig called Raw >Funk, also villalobos, eddie flashin fowlkes, heiko laux, alexander >kowalski, isolee. OK, not in Manchester though? I'm talking about Manchester particuarly because it's a fickle market (obviously its smaller than London, and therefore the percentage of people interested is smaller) and one that needs someone to do something for the people who live here. It's ball breaking stuff to be honest. I did it for at least 5 years. >Don't rant onto me about contribution and sacrafice. OK, fair enough, I apologise. You caught me at a bad time. anyway, I'm sure people are sick of this now, so I'll shut up. But please remember, this isn't London or Glasgow - and we have to take what we can get. Rather that than nothing in my opinion. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
> Tyranny of the kick drum eh? O_o > > _I dont have a problem with diversity_ but I do have a problem with > non-techno somehow being a techno progression, getting people into > "techno parties" by not playing techno, etc etc techno came out of a huge variety of different types of musicmaybe going back to a more varied approach will yield a progression? no one knows the answer to this but i'm willing to give it a go :) robin...
Re: (313) Greg Wilson mix
found a mix online at deephousepage.com http://www.deephousepage.com/gregwilson.htm Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> com> cc: Subject: Re: (313) Ken or Mojo or Greg ? 07/14/03 10:56 AM He's the missing link between Northern Soul/Electro/Techno and a unsung hero... Search here for info http://www.jahsonic.com/ 14/7/03 2:42 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fallon.com > > er ah, who *is* Greg Wilson? This is the first I've ever heard the name. > > MEK > > > > > > Martin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > com> cc: > Subject: (313) Ken or Mojo or > Greg ? > 07/14/03 08:36 AM > > > > > > > Hi 313ers, > > Looks like I've opened a can of worms here, but it's an interesting one. > > Thanks for all the links and info, but how comes one of the key players in > the rise of Electro/Techno never gets mentioned - Greg Wilson. > > md > > >> |-Original Message- >> |From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> |Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:55 PM >> |To: 313 >> |Subject: (313) Ken or Mojo >> | >> | >> |Hey 313ers... >> |I'm writing a piece on "back in the day" in Sheffield/Detroit (74-82) > and >> |I'm interested in finding out more about Ken and Mojo, who was the first > to >> |champion techno for example? Can anyone point me at any info. >> | >> |Md >> | >> | >> >> > > > > > > >
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
I think both dj's who only play techno and dj's who mix it are both valid approaches. Its just a style thing and this is some dj's style and they are good at it and can get away with it while some dj's i would prefer to hear play techno all night because this is what they play best. Neither is wrong, and really i can enjoy both just depending on what i feel like. I think the important thing is going to see a DJ's interpretation of the music and as long as its done tastefully and i'm in the mood for it then fine by me. Also techno doesn't haven't to be all 4/4 tyranny, there does exist techno without 4/4 beats. One more spanner in the works here-maybe peoples interpretation of dance music and or techno can differ from their exposure depending on their age and locality so its going to be impossible to come to a general consensus. Its all good if its good. Quest
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
I don't want to take sides on this or anything. I just wondered if hip hop is not as mainstream there or something? Here in Chicago there are a million places to hear hip hop and not just the top 40 stuff but more underground (relatively) stuff plus tons of rare groove and funk and soul. With house it is still here, although quite a bit less, it isn't surprising to hear some deep house at all kinds of random small bars however. For techno, along with minimal, microhouse, electro (not clash) and experimental, there is very little, and almost zero Detroit style techno. The point being, for a US DJ to play hiphop is a kind of mainstream thing to do in my opinion, not that it isn't good but seems like that stuff already gets a lot of play. Of course things are different over there across the ocean. But I guess I could see how I might be disappointed if I went hoping to hear some Detroit style sounds and got hiphop which I get to hear constantly. /Dave -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:48:46 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org >That's not progression, its LAME. come back to me when you've made your contribution. either that, or spare a thought at how much effort it takes, or financial contribution to do something. undergound music is a d.i.y thing. You MUST make your contribution. We take pleasure from people around the world busting their balls to make their own little effort so that we can enjoy it and take our personal pleasure from it. Be it putting out records, or doing parties. If everyone was take take take, the whole thing would fall apart very quickly because a) they're ain't no money in it, b) it's a lot of hard work for little thanks or monetary gain. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?
ok txs !!! - Original Message - From: "Alex Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'313 detroit'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:39 PM Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? > 33 is grant hill isnt it? > > also, ive seen these 33 shirts.. its got to be a basketball thing > > ab > > -Original Message- > From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:02 PM > To: '313 detroit' > Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? > > > > Isiah Thomas was #11. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:15 AM > To: RAW2019; 313 detroit > Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? > > isiah thomas was #33 for the detroit pistons... maybe its that! > > ab > > -Original Message- > From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:59 PM > To: 313 detroit > Subject: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? > > > hi list, > > i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one > i can't find it in google > > can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ? > > txs > > RAW > > btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose, > carl > en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha > (check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of > the > festival ) > > RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 > >
Re: (313) bug in bassbin drums ?
Hi Silvia, Sorry but you make to much conclusions ... I did not say that, neither did carl .. he probably sampled them from a real drummer which could be the reason why ppl can't find those beats but I don't know either that's why asked the question and made the link with the percusionist of outherzone orchestra. anyway, thanks for replying :-) RAW - Original Message - From: "Sylvia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RAW2019" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313 detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: RE: (313) bug in bassbin drums ? > > He got the nerves to say that ? > If he really said that > he'd better to give more credit to people. > CC made BIB in 1992 ? I guess he hasn't cleared it. > that might why he said that. > > Well, the world is not just about > esoteric-underground-hipsterz and > masses-of-bland-stupidity-Less-than-Jake. > We have also true/real music lovers > with immense musical background, hopefully. > > Snipped from McCoy Tyner's "Passion Dance" 1978 - > Reedited by a major company last year. > > > |-Original Message- > |From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > |Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:45 PM > |To: 313 detroit > |Subject: (313) bug in bassbin drums ? > | > | > |yep it's me again > |carl once said that nobody could find where he got the beats from > |for bug in the bassbin ... > | > |i heard outherzone orchestra lasr friday > |and came to conclusion this could be 'that' drumsound of bug in a bassbin > |(outherzone orchestra is formed around former sunra orkestra members!) > | > |anybody got a clue ? > | > |RAW > | > | > | > | > | >
(313) FS: Sequential Multi-Trak
Aiight y'all... I'm moving out west to Arizona in a few weeks. I have to consolidate my rig to a small keyboard and my PC. I need to get rid of my old faithful Sequential Circuits board. It needs a new battery (readily available at Radio Shack) and a pitch bend pot (usually available from Wine Country). It's in pretty good shape and sounds great, but since I switched to software last year I've only used it as a controller. I'm asking $100 or best offer. I would prefer a local buyer (S.E. Michigan), but could probably work something out with someone out of state. George Jones/Logic7 http://always.nu http://www.geocities.com/labwerx 734-340-4704 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.500 / Virus Database: 298 - Release Date: 7/10/2003
(313) Niko Marks interview up at Technotourist.org
Hi, We have a new interview up at Technotourist.org: Niko Marks Niko Marks used to be part of Members of the House and Unit 2. He also worked together with Eddie Fowlkes. He now is stepping into the spotlight with his own releases on Planet-e and he has a full album ready: 'Cosmology'. Those who were lucky enough to see his live show at the Movement festival know that this guy is incredibly talented. And he has some really interesting things to say... You can read the interview at: http://technotourist.org and then click on interviews and select Niko Marks or, Go directly to the interview here: http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index &req=viewarticle&artid=31 Enjoy! John [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technotourist.org
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber? Also, if hi vocals are hissy/ distorted is that my needle or the record damaged? Can you tell by looking at a record if its damaged? and if so how... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 2:13 a.m. To: Adam H; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London Aaaarrgggh! There are lot of people who want to hear more than just techno when they go out. Many older clubbers (not me, I hasten to add) have stopped going clubbing cos they have gotten bored of the tyranny of the kick drum and would be tempted back by a bit of diversity. To cater for that isn't commercialism, it's common sense - commercial clubs are NOT diverse in the music policy - the kids at the moment love kick drums and little else (hence the popularity of hard house and hard trance). Haven't we been here before? Somebody ain't listening or is obtusely missing the point. -Original Message- From: Adam H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt play techno? Strange... On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 08:54 America/Detroit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to >> break out >> in gospel house do you? > > well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno > parties > if he did. > > and not just us 'geeks' eh? > _ > > - End of message text > > This e-mail is sent by the above named in their > individual, non-business capacity and is not on > behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you > give your consent to such monitoring > > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
At 04:17 PM 7/14/2003, Ralf Gill wrote: Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber? Dunno. I'm 46, but I'm usually not able to BE out that late :-) (work + school, etc.) And if I was, it would be the overwhelming cigarette smoke WHICH would keep me away otherwise. I choose my venues with that in mind. jeff
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Just for the record, my email program has taken to capitalizing words now and then when memory is dragged upon - the word "which" in my last email has no special significance. jeff
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Ralf Gill wrote on Tue, 15 Jul 2003 about following: > Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber? 28! > Also, if hi vocals are hissy/ distorted is that my needle or the record > damaged? Can you tell by looking at a record if its damaged? and if so > how... Could be worn-out record, or worn-out needle; OR just horribly badly mastered track, quite common mistake nowadays - just too much compression. try with other needle, if the sound is still the same, it's either record or mastering; then compare two copies of the record.. and you might want to read this too: http://needleexpress.com/faq.htm sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
(313) good life
> K Alexi and Gene Hunt played here friday night and Gene Hunt played > a white label 'Good Life' remix I'd neve heard before -- jazzy breakbeats, > the vocal with loads of echo, very sparing use of samples of the original. > What the eff was that? i wonder if this was the same version stacey pullen played in melbourne a few weeks ago - sounds like it might be. it was pretty cool. p
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Well, playing the same style all night at ~ the same bpm is just fooking boring, I don't care how old you are or what music happens to be popular. I felt this way 15 years ago and I still feel this way @ 37. Which btw, is prolly not the average age (if there is one). hehe lisa Ralf Gill wrote: Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber? Also, if hi vocals are hissy/ distorted is that my needle or the record damaged? Can you tell by looking at a record if its damaged? and if so how... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 2:13 a.m. To: Adam H; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London Aaaarrgggh! There are lot of people who want to hear more than just techno when they go out. Many older clubbers (not me, I hasten to add) have stopped going clubbing cos they have gotten bored of the tyranny of the kick drum and would be tempted back by a bit of diversity. To cater for that isn't commercialism, it's common sense - commercial clubs are NOT diverse in the music policy - the kids at the moment love kick drums and little else (hence the popularity of hard house and hard trance). Haven't we been here before? Somebody ain't listening or is obtusely missing the point. -Original Message- From: Adam H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt play techno? Strange... On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 08:54 America/Detroit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out in gospel house do you? well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno parties if he did. and not just us 'geeks' eh? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Specifically Security on Automan 6..when the women speaks its sounds very tttss, distorted sibilance I think is the phrase used..is this the record or my setup? Anyone else heard this? -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:13 a.m. To: Ralf Gill Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London Ralf Gill wrote on Tue, 15 Jul 2003 about following: > Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber? 28! > Also, if hi vocals are hissy/ distorted is that my needle or the record > damaged? Can you tell by looking at a record if its damaged? and if so > how... Could be worn-out record, or worn-out needle; OR just horribly badly mastered track, quite common mistake nowadays - just too much compression. try with other needle, if the sound is still the same, it's either record or mastering; then compare two copies of the record.. and you might want to read this too: http://needleexpress.com/faq.htm sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
Ryan Snowden wrote: Cr4p to that. If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in detroit who has a few half Have you seen Recloose dj at all before?? He's always far from being just a "deep house dj". The two times I've seen him at a "deep house" night here in Sydney, he's always been right across the board. From hip-hop to electro to deep house to funk to disco to broken beat to techno and beyond.