(313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Phonopsia
What an amazing two days! I first stopped by John (Ramar)'s new weekly at
the new club 'the Lane' on Osborne Street, just at the south end of Brick
Lane. I was there for most of the last 4 hours of his 6 hour set, and it was
excellent. The Voices crew are really doing some excellent stuff in London.
I'm not even sure where to begin in running down his set, but suffice it to
say that it would have met the approval of any DHP afficiando.

>From there I wandered around the corner to catch the last hour of Tom
Churchill's set. F*cking wicked! *Everyone* in the place was floored by his
selection. Every single track was devastating. I'm sort of gutted that I
missed the first hour despite hearing amazing stuff from Ramar at the same
time. DEMF-calibre conundrum...

Titonton came on and f*cking killed it. It was  enormous. I'v  not seen a
techno (and a bit of house) set like that in ages. His scrathing was
TP-superb and never overwhelming while his sense of how to mix perfectly
matched the tracks he was playing - like going from cut-up madness to a
three minute long-mix of deep house mix between deep house toons. And what a
brilliant chap! He sacrificied the last 30 minutes of his set to let Matthew
Puffet come on and mix for about an hour or so as they closed the 2nd room,
since he had sold everyone in the main room, then came back on after Matthew
Puffet's (also great) set and took off where he left off. Nic Larsen closed
with a half-dozen classics and it was sealed. I seriously doubt anyone will
forget this one.

Despite a severe hangover, I made it up to Cargo for Sunday night. Some of
the best £4 I've ever spent. Fat Freddy's (???)... were wicked. Their 15
minute version of Midnight Marauders was stunning, preceeded by a funk track
that was almost as long and equally epic, followed by a nearly 20 minute
apparently improvised song with a London ragga MC, which segued into the
actual song, punctuated with the lead singer's Razzell-esque
vocal-scratching after he'd just done his Motown vocals. Wow! Very
cativating.

Recloose followed with a nice dub-into hip hop and house set that really hit
the spot. I've never been floored by his DJ mechanics, but I have to give it
up for his sense of when to drop the (very) short mix despite one horrendous
4 minute train wreck in the middle that he wouldn't let go. Surprisingly,
after that he proceeded to enter deep house mixing zone and rode it out in
immaculate style, carrying every mix at legth to perfection. What a way to
end a beautful weekend in London! With so much coming up, this is shaping up
to be a legendary Summer!

Tristan
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Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread David Gillies

Phonopsia wrote:


Despite a severe hangover, I made it up to Cargo for Sunday night. Some of
the best £4 I've ever spent. Fat Freddy's (???)... were wicked. Their 15

That'd be Fat Freddy's Drop from Wellington/NZ. I saw them in Sydney/AU 
earlier on in the year and they were absolutely wicked. Apparently the 
lead singer (Dallas) is doing some work with Recloose in the studio for 
some upcoming Recloose stuff and also I think Dallas and the saxophonist 
from Fat Freddy's has just done a live show together for the North Sea 
Jazz Festival. Or was that a show elsewhere in Europe. Can't remember 
for sure... hazy memory...




(313) fx mix

2003-07-14 Thread philip

anyone got the kirk de giorgio fx mix 01 ? i had a listen in a shop but the
tracks sounded a bit weak. i was hoping for some deep & deconstructed
broken beat & house action but i'm not sure if it's really that kind of
thing. hmmm. 

also checked out the tejada / leviste 'fairfax sake' (truly awful title
imho) on playhouse. ummm nice but ordinary ? 

p   



RE: (313) TONIGHT + TOMORROW: ele_mental 10 year anniversary party w/ DEGO, DOORMOUSE, ELE_MENTAL DJs + LIVE ACTS!!! (fwd)

2003-07-14 Thread Kelly M
Doormouse and Fishead together... now that's a party.



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party w/ DEGO, DOORMOUSE, ELE_MENTAL DJs + LIVE ACTS!!! (fwd)

doormouse is scary
:P

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Subject: (313) TONIGHT + TOMORROW: ele_mental 10 year anniversary party
w/
DEGO, DOORMOUSE, ELE_MENTAL DJs + LIVE ACTS!!! (fwd)


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> sorry for the confusion everyone, but due to some unfortunate
circumstances
> with The Factory + the Buggyworks the More than Music festival has
been
> cancelled. However, some shows are still going on.
>
> TONIGHT @ DRAGONFLY / NEO: 247 King Avenue, Columbus, OH 43201
> 614.298.9986 * http://www.dragonflyneov.com/
>
>
> ele_mental 10 year anniversary part 1.
>

+
> DJs ... boogie, house, tech jazz mashups
> DEGO [4 HERO, Reinforced, 2000 Black, Talkin' Loud]
> ED LUNA aka LUNAR [ele_mental]
> TODD SINES [Planet E, Peacefrog, Residual, 2122]
>
> live
> DOORMOUSE [breakcore / noise] tbc
>
> 10 PM - LATE
> $5 or pay what you can!
>
> AND
>
> tomorrow night
> DRAGONFLY / NEO: 247 King Avenue, Columbus, OH 43201
> 614.298.9986 * http://www.dragonflyneov.com/
>
>
> ele_mental 10 year anniversary part 2.
>

+
> ele_mental sound system
> featuring ele_mental + Residual DJs
> THOMAS JAMES
> MAKKU DA KUTTA
> MIKE SOLOMON
> DOUG BLACK
> ADAM YURATOVAC
> ROB RAGE
> MIKE LAUFF
> POWERHOUSE
> L BLACK
> MELODY + MELIA
>
> TODD SINES [LIVE]
> GEOFF WHITE [LIVE] tbc
>
> +
>
> 8 PM - LATE
> $5 or pay what you can!
>
> PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD! call all of your friends!
> email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for my phone number if you need it.
>
>
> also.. tonight!
>
> RJD2 - Little Brothers... 12-2 $10
>
> "Alright, so the More Than Music Festival is
> kaput, BUT RJD2 is still in town and will be
> playing a last minute show at LITTLE BROTHERS
> (1100 N. High Street) from 12:00 - 2:00am.
> SPREAD THE WORD! Cover is a mere ten bucks and
> well worth it...have you seen this man in
> action?!"
>
> we hope to see you later!
>
>
>
>
> +odd
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Re: (313) Blech (Warp 040)

2003-07-14 Thread yussel
it was originally a cassette. but it now available on CD:
http://www.warprecords.com/ography/release.php?cat=WARP44

i don;t know about running order difference



On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is Blech a cassette-only release? And, does anyone remember the free Blech 
> tape given away with Muzik (RIP all is forgiven!!)? I had it years ago but 
> lost it, and looking at the official tracklisting on Discogs, it seems to 
> have a different running order!
>
> Any help is much appreciated. (Anyone selling Blech?)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
>
> PS. As an incentive I have the Muzik Magazine tape with the unreleased 
> version of Solitary Confinement by Florence, a beautiful electro track. Maybe 
> we can swapsies? ;-)
>


RE: (313) Blech (Warp 040)

2003-07-14 Thread andrew.hodgson
Sorry mate, that's Blechdottir, the follow-up. The first Blech is much more 
rare (apparently) and the Muzik Magazine tape is probably rarer than that. 
Someone out there must have it though...

I have already sourced a CDR of Blech 1, thanks to a kind and generous 313er, 
so it's only the Muzik tape that eludes me. If anyone can help it will be 
rewarded!

Cheers,

Andrew


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Subject:Re: (313) Blech (Warp 040)

it was originally a cassette. but it now available on CD:
http://www.warprecords.com/ography/release.php?cat=WARP44

i don;t know about running order difference



On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is Blech a cassette-only release? And, does anyone remember the free Blech 
> tape given away with Muzik (RIP all is forgiven!!)? I had it years ago but 
> lost it, and looking at the official tracklisting on Discogs, it seems to 
> have a different running order!
>
> Any help is much appreciated. (Anyone selling Blech?)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
>
> PS. As an incentive I have the Muzik Magazine tape with the unreleased 
> version of Solitary Confinement by Florence, a beautiful electro track. Maybe 
> we can swapsies? ;-)
>





(313) London 313'ers - 19/7

2003-07-14 Thread Bleep43
Just a quick reminder to all 313'ers that Rob Euroh, Brighton's resident
scratch demon and electro DJ of the highest order, will be at our next
Bleep43 party on Saturday.

Details at www.bleep43.com






RE: (313) Blech (Warp 040)

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Taylor
The Blech! cassette was given away by WAX Magazine, not Muzik and has a 
different tracklisting from the Blech CD (although some of the tracks are the 
same). They were both mixed by PC and Strickly Kev of DJ Food (Ninjatune). IIRC 
the cassette mix is dotted with samples from John Carpenter's Darkstar, but 
it's been a while since I've heard the CD - the CD and the cassette are 
distinctly different though. They're both excellent and worth tracking down.
Andrew - I have the cassette and can do you a tape of it. I might be able to 
get someone to do a CDR of it. Hit me back off list and I'll try and sort 
something out.

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Sorry mate, that's Blechdottir, the follow-up. The first Blech is much more 
rare (apparently) and the Muzik Magazine tape is probably rarer than that. 
Someone out there must have it though...

I have already sourced a CDR of Blech 1, thanks to a kind and generous 313er, 
so it's only the Muzik tape that eludes me. If anyone can help it will be 
rewarded!

Cheers,

Andrew


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Subject:Re: (313) Blech (Warp 040)

it was originally a cassette. but it now available on CD:
http://www.warprecords.com/ography/release.php?cat=WARP44

i don;t know about running order difference



On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is Blech a cassette-only release? And, does anyone remember the free Blech 
> tape given away with Muzik (RIP all is forgiven!!)? I had it years ago but 
> lost it, and looking at the official tracklisting on Discogs, it seems to 
> have a different running order!
>
> Any help is much appreciated. (Anyone selling Blech?)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
>
> PS. As an incentive I have the Muzik Magazine tape with the unreleased 
> version of Solitary Confinement by Florence, a beautiful electro track. Maybe 
> we can swapsies? ;-)
>




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RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?

2003-07-14 Thread Alex Bates
isiah thomas was #33 for the detroit pistons... maybe its that!

ab

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To: 313 detroit
Subject: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?


hi list,

i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one
i can't find it in google

can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ?

txs

RAW

btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose, carl
en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha
(check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of the
festival )

RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com



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Re: (313) aux 88 track id

2003-07-14 Thread Roland van Oorschot

At 17:54 13-7-2003, scotto wrote:

it has this lyric it "all i want to do is rock with you", and a few others
that i'm not sure of fully.
think it's 2x12 on DB, but not sure.


The track is called 'Don't Stop it'.
It's on the 2x12" Xeo-Genetic (DB4W-037) released in 1998 on Direct Beat.

R.


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RE: (313) Pepe Bradock Mix

2003-07-14 Thread Langsman, Marc

> > Is that a sample or a remake of the bassline?
> > It sounds a little more "synthy" than the sugar hill version...

The bassline is orignally from Chic Good Times If Im not mistaken [sampled
to death] but sounds processed/filtered in some crazy way - anyone know what
the tune is ? 

Ta,
marc

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RE: (313) Pepe Bradock Mix

2003-07-14 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Yep correct - first I thought: 'that is so cliched/obvious' etc, then you
hear how much the b-line has been fuffed with! Nice :-)

k

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>> > Is that a sample or a remake of the bassline?
>> > It sounds a little more "synthy" than the sugar hill version...
>
>The bassline is orignally from Chic Good Times If Im not mistaken [sampled
>to death] but sounds processed/filtered in some crazy way - anyone
>know what
>the tune is ?
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>Ta,
>marc
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(313) Liquid Liquid

2003-07-14 Thread Jason

Hi there,

got the opportunity to see the legendary Liquid Liquid last night at 
the Sub Club- mightily impressed- real loose limbed crazy funk with 
"shouty" vocals and a groove that just wouldn't stop.  Kind of reminded 
me of a more "out there" talking Heads circa Fear Of Music- I know 
they've been sampled a few times (apart from White Lines)- anyone know 
some of the more famous lifts by Carl Craig etc.?


cheers

Jason Brunton

PS Respect to list member Sean Creen for persuading me to go down- 
might have missed a great night otherwise




Re: (313) Liquid Liquid

2003-07-14 Thread Placid
I cant wait to see them..  I got their 3 biggest ep's  on 99  did they do
'optiumo'  

I'm sure bell head has been lifted on enough tracks..  The cow bells are v
fam,iliar...

On 14/7/03 10:08 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> got the opportunity to see the legendary Liquid Liquid last night at
> the Sub Club- mightily impressed- real loose limbed crazy funk with
> "shouty" vocals and a groove that just wouldn't stop.  Kind of reminded
> me of a more "out there" talking Heads circa Fear Of Music- I know
> they've been sampled a few times (apart from White Lines)- anyone know
> some of the more famous lifts by Carl Craig etc.?
> 
> cheers
> 
> Jason Brunton
> 
> PS Respect to list member Sean Creen for persuading me to go down-
> might have missed a great night otherwise
> 



Re: (313) Liquid Liquid

2003-07-14 Thread Jason
They sure did- the club night they were playing at was called "Optimo", 
named in their honour i believe.  The percussion playing was all hot- 
marimbas, xylophone, timbale and more.


Jason



On Monday, July 14, 2003, at 11:36  am, Placid wrote:

I cant wait to see them..  I got their 3 biggest ep's  on 99  did they 
do

'optiumo'

I'm sure bell head has been lifted on enough tracks..  The cow bells 
are v

fam,iliar...

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(313) Promotion Question...

2003-07-14 Thread Langsman, Marc

Am looking to start promoting myself DJ-wisecan anyone recommend any
sites/resources which would have good information on this. Im not sure on
things like if its better for me to target agencies/venues etc etc...

Any info/advice/links muchos appreciated !!

Peace,
Marc

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Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread robin pinning
>
> Recloose followed with a nice dub-into hip hop and house set that really hit
> the spot. I've never been floored by his DJ mechanics, but I have to give it
> up for his sense of when to drop the (very) short mix despite one horrendous
> 4 minute train wreck in the middle that he wouldn't let go. Surprisingly,
> after that he proceeded to enter deep house mixing zone and rode it out in
> immaculate style, carrying every mix at legth to perfection. What a way to
> end a beautful weekend in London! With so much coming up, this is shaping up
> to be a legendary Summer!


we had recloose up here at Eyes Down in manchester over the weekend.
played more of a hiphop/downtempo set (probs to fit the night, eyes
down aint known for it's techno :) ) which left the detroit heads wanting
but overall was a proper groovin set...



robin...



RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Ryan Snowden
I thought it was very average in Manchester.  If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd
go to one.  Is this what planet-e is pushing for?  And he could have played
some better hip hop too *snigger*.  Apart from that, the fact that an MC was
talking over everything and one air conditioning wall unit upstairs blowing
smoke really made it an average night.  And those curtains just did NOTHING
except get in the way.  Whats the point?

|-Original Message-
|From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|Sent: 14 July 2003 12:20
|To: 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
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|>
|> Recloose followed with a nice dub-into hip hop and house set that 
|> really hit the spot. I've never been floored by his DJ 
|mechanics, but 
|> I have to give it up for his sense of when to drop the (very) short 
|> mix despite one horrendous 4 minute train wreck in the 
|middle that he 
|> wouldn't let go. Surprisingly, after that he proceeded to enter deep 
|> house mixing zone and rode it out in immaculate style, 
|carrying every 
|> mix at legth to perfection. What a way to end a beautful weekend in 
|> London! With so much coming up, this is shaping up to be a legendary 
|> Summer!
|
|
|we had recloose up here at Eyes Down in manchester over the 
|weekend. played more of a hiphop/downtempo set (probs to fit 
|the night, eyes down aint known for it's techno :) ) which 
|left the detroit heads wanting but overall was a proper groovin set...
|
|
|
|robin...
|


RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread alex . bond

re. recloose in Manc.

>If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd go to one.
>Is this what planet-e is pushing for?

You DID go to one. Eyes Down is a hip hop gig.
I don't think Planet E had anything to do with it.







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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Ryan Snowden
A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It must be
a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum and
bass.

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|>If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd go to one.
|>Is this what planet-e is pushing for?
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|You DID go to one. Eyes Down is a hip hop gig.
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Alex Bates
dont forget larry heard did a few very good drum and bass tunes - its all
possible!

ab

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A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It must be
a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum and
bass.

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|>If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd go to one.
|>Is this what planet-e is pushing for?
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Re: (313) Blech (Warp 040)

2003-07-14 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk
The original Blech (Wap MC 40) is a cassette only release and is long OOP. 
The CD mentioned below is Blechsdottir (Blech II) and is a completely 
different animal.


jeff




http://www.warprecords.com/ography/release.php?cat=WARP44

i don;t know about running order difference







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>
> Is Blech a cassette-only release?





RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread alex . bond

>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It must
be
>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum and
>bass.

WTF?

It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress things. Yeah,
they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip hop, hungarian jazz, pop,
techno, whatever. It's a hip hop party, because that's where they come
from. alot of their guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably
try to put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry that most
house/techno people wouldn't understand the asthetics of the party.
Recloose was someone who fitted in to their way of thinking because he
plays across the board. Who was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ?

and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do something
different at no personal gain for the people in Manchester as there aren't
alot of others trying.

Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying that. Good
parties in manchester are few and far between, can you not look to the
positive points?

They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still went ahead
anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was there at the end. Looked
like a load of people enjoyed it to me. I certainly did. But then, if
you're going to let a curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then
well, I dunno.
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Ryan  Snowden wrote on Mon, 14 Jul 2003 about following:

> A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It must be

oh boy i feel that there is yet another roots of hip hop and electro 
discussion coming. it's current trend to play old funk, disco & soul in 
hip hop gigs, why not deep house, it's not that far.. 

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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Ryan Snowden
Cr4p to that.

If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then you get a hip
hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in detroit who has a few half
baked outdated hip hop records in his collection which SURPRISE he is
partial too.  That combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin'
really takes the piss!  I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can deal
with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really".  That's not
progression, its LAME.

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26
|To: 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|
|>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It 
|>must
|be
|>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum 
|>and bass.
|
|WTF?
|
|It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress 
|things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip 
|hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop 
|party, because that's where they come from. alot of their 
|guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to 
|put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry 
|that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the 
|asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to 
|their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who 
|was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ?
|
|and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do 
|something different at no personal gain for the people in 
|Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying.
|
|Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying 
|that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can 
|you not look to the positive points?
|
|They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still 
|went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was 
|there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to 
|me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a 
|curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I 
|dunno. 
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RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?

2003-07-14 Thread Rob Theakston

Isiah Thomas was #11.




-Original Message-
From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:15 AM
To: RAW2019; 313 detroit
Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?

isiah thomas was #33 for the detroit pistons... maybe its that!

ab

-Original Message-
From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:59 PM
To: 313 detroit
Subject: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?


hi list,

i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one
i can't find it in google

can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ?

txs

RAW

btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose,
carl
en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha
(check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of
the
festival )

RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com



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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Alex Bates
not sure if you are aware of this but there are people who want to go out
and listen to quality music across a few different genres and just want to
have a bit of fun with their mates. not everyone who goes to a club stands
in a corner stroking their chin and taking notes on a pad.

NOTE : THIS IS A HOUSE DJ PLAYING HIP HOP OH MY GOD I MUST GET ALL UPSET ON
MY INTERNET MAILING LIST TOMORROW!

ab

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From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London


Cr4p to that.

If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then you get a hip
hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in detroit who has a few half
baked outdated hip hop records in his collection which SURPRISE he is
partial too.  That combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin'
really takes the piss!  I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can deal
with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really".  That's not
progression, its LAME.

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26
|To: 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|
|>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It
|>must
|be
|>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum
|>and bass.
|
|WTF?
|
|It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress
|things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip
|hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop
|party, because that's where they come from. alot of their
|guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to
|put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry
|that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the
|asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to
|their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who
|was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ?
|
|and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do
|something different at no personal gain for the people in
|Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying.
|
|Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying
|that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can
|you not look to the positive points?
|
|They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still
|went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was
|there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to
|me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a
|curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I
|dunno.
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Taylor
I think it's lame to go to a gig and hope everything confirms to a narrowly 
prescribed set of parameters - ie it all must be techno.
There's not enough diversity in clubbing and I applaud anyone making the effort 
to promote variety in a club night.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:27 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London


Cr4p to that.

If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then you get a hip
hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in detroit who has a few half
baked outdated hip hop records in his collection which SURPRISE he is
partial too.  That combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin'
really takes the piss!  I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can deal
with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really".  That's not
progression, its LAME.

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26
|To: 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|
|>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It 
|>must
|be
|>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum 
|>and bass.
|
|WTF?
|
|It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress 
|things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip 
|hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop 
|party, because that's where they come from. alot of their 
|guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to 
|put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry 
|that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the 
|asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to 
|their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who 
|was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ?
|
|and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do 
|something different at no personal gain for the people in 
|Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying.
|
|Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying 
|that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can 
|you not look to the positive points?
|
|They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still 
|went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was 
|there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to 
|me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a 
|curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I 
|dunno. 
|_
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread robin pinning

Ryan  Snowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I thought it was very average in Manchester.  If I wanted a hip hop gig I'd
> go to one.  Is this what planet-e is pushing for?  And he could have played
> some better hip hop too *snigger*.  Apart from that, the fact that an MC was
> talking over everything and one air conditioning wall unit upstairs blowing
> smoke really made it an average night.  And those curtains just did NOTHING
> except get in the way.  Whats the point?

but this was at Eyes Down...they love their hiphop and i'll groove
to anything that's quality and played on a nice clear PA that shakes
plaster off the ceiling, and by people who are properly into this not just
in it for the cash...

people need to let go of the "i'll only dance to _insert fave genre_", a
nice variety in a night really grabs me now rather than 5 hours of
seemlessly blended techno loops...don't get me wrong i love techno too but
if they're not playing that i don't fret but appreciate when i do go to a
techno nite...

oh yeah and about the venue...i love the down and dirty vibe of the place
(band on the wall) it feels more like a party (as in block party) and less
like i'm meant to be wearing a shirt and shiney shoes...


overall hats off to the Eyes Down gang for putting him on


robin...



RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Langsman, Marc

> oh boy i feel that there is yet another roots of hip hop and electro 
> discussion coming. it's current trend to play old funk, disco 
> & soul in 
> hip hop gigs, why not deep house, it's not that far.. 


Surely origins of hip-hop = cuttin up old funk/disco etc ? Anyhoo who cares
as long as theres booty shakin soul in the music  !!

Peace,
marc

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(313) Ken or Mojo or Greg ?

2003-07-14 Thread Martin
Hi 313ers,

Looks like I've opened a can of worms here, but it's an interesting one.

Thanks for all the links and info, but how comes one of the key players in
the rise of Electro/Techno never gets mentioned - Greg Wilson.

md


> |-Original Message-
> |From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:55 PM
> |To: 313
> |Subject: (313) Ken or Mojo
> |
> |
> |Hey 313ers...
> |I'm writing a piece on "back in the day" in Sheffield/Detroit (74-82) and
> |I'm interested in finding out more about Ken and Mojo, who was the first to
> |champion techno for example? Can anyone point me at any info.
> |
> |Md
> |
> |
> 
> 



RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?

2003-07-14 Thread Alex Bates
33 is grant hill isnt it?

also, ive seen these 33 shirts.. its got to be a basketball thing

ab

-Original Message-
From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:02 PM
To: '313 detroit'
Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?



Isiah Thomas was #11.




-Original Message-
From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:15 AM
To: RAW2019; 313 detroit
Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?

isiah thomas was #33 for the detroit pistons... maybe its that!

ab

-Original Message-
From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:59 PM
To: 313 detroit
Subject: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?


hi list,

i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one
i can't find it in google

can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ?

txs

RAW

btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose,
carl
en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha
(check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of
the
festival )

RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com



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(313) for londoners <- Re: (313) Liquid Liquid

2003-07-14 Thread Anya Stang
TUESDAY 15TH JULY
LIQUID LIQUID / COLDER / MU / 7-HURTZ
DJ'S TREVOR JACKSON & MAURICE FULTON
CANVAS (OPPOSITE THE CROSS)
KINGS CROSS GOODS YARD
9-3AM / £15
culled from http://www.plasticpeople.co.uk

Cheers,

Anya
 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon 14/Jul/2003 09:08 GMT
> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: (313) Liquid Liquid
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> got the opportunity to see the legendary Liquid Liquid last night at 
> the Sub Club- mightily impressed- real loose limbed crazy funk with 
> "shouty" vocals and a groove that just wouldn't stop.  Kind of reminded 
> me of a more "out there" talking Heads circa Fear Of Music- I know 
> they've been sampled a few times (apart from White Lines)- anyone know 
> some of the more famous lifts by Carl Craig etc.?
> 
> cheers
> 
> Jason Brunton
> 
> PS Respect to list member Sean Creen for persuading me to go down- 
> might have missed a great night otherwise

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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Ryan Snowden
Has everyone gone mad?

If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out
in gospel house do you?


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|From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|Sent: 14 July 2003 14:36
|To: Ryan Snowden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|I think it's lame to go to a gig and hope everything confirms 
|to a narrowly prescribed set of parameters - ie it all must be 
|techno. There's not enough diversity in clubbing and I applaud 
|anyone making the effort to promote variety in a club night.
|
|-Original Message-
|From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:27 PM
|To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|Cr4p to that.
|
|If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then 
|you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in 
|detroit who has a few half baked outdated hip hop records in 
|his collection which SURPRISE he is partial too.  That 
|combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin' really 
|takes the piss!  I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can 
|deal with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really".  
|That's not progression, its LAME.
|
||-Original Message-
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
||Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26
||To: 313@hyperreal.org
||Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
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||
||>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It
||>must
||be
||>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum
||>and bass.
||
||WTF?
||
||It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress
||things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip 
||hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop 
||party, because that's where they come from. alot of their 
||guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to 
||put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry 
||that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the 
||asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to 
||their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who 
||was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ?
||
||and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do
||something different at no personal gain for the people in 
||Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying.
||
||Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying
||that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can 
||you not look to the positive points?
||
||They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still
||went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was 
||there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to 
||me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a 
||curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I 
||dunno. 
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Langsman, Marc wrote on Mon, 14 Jul 2003 about following:

> 
> > oh boy i feel that there is yet another roots of hip hop and electro 
> 
> Surely origins of hip-hop = cuttin up old funk/disco etc ? 

now what did i just say... :)

> Anyhoo who cares
> as long as theres booty shakin soul in the music  !!

exactly. good music is good music no matter what. 
 

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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread alex . bond

>That's not progression, its LAME.

come back to me when you've made your contribution.

either that, or spare a thought at how much effort it takes, or financial
contribution to do something.

undergound music is a d.i.y thing. You MUST make your contribution.
We take pleasure from people around the world busting their balls to make
their own little effort so that we can enjoy it and take our personal
pleasure from it. Be it putting out records, or doing parties.

If everyone was take take take, the whole thing would fall apart very
quickly because a) they're ain't no money in it, b) it's a lot of hard work
for little thanks or monetary gain.

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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread robin pinning

> Has everyone gone mad?

i dunno you possess a very 90s attitude to musicthis is the next
millenium manthings changepeople (as i see it) want to go to a
club and listen to just good music, whatever genre

that's wat this whole non-mixing thing is all about...it allows you to
move between genres better...

(for a discussion on this see archives...it was a long discussion, don't
assume that i think non-mixing is a totally good thing)

> If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out
> in gospel house do you?

he'd be all the more interesting if he did...along with a shed load of
other stylesanyway from what i hear (not seen him myself since
95) vogel plays all sorts of mad musics...

robin...



SV: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Güclüer, Hansi
If you buy a record and Mad Mike is producing, you don't expect him to break 
out in gospel house???

But then he went Mad many years ago...

Recloose was a hiphop-dj in the beginning btw

Peace!

/Hansi

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Ämne: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

Has everyone gone mad?

If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out
in gospel house do you?


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|To: Ryan Snowden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
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|
|
|I think it's lame to go to a gig and hope everything confirms 
|to a narrowly prescribed set of parameters - ie it all must be 
|techno. There's not enough diversity in clubbing and I applaud 
|anyone making the effort to promote variety in a club night.
|
|-Original Message-
|From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:27 PM
|To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|Cr4p to that.
|
|If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then 
|you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in 
|detroit who has a few half baked outdated hip hop records in 
|his collection which SURPRISE he is partial too.  That 
|combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin' really 
|takes the piss!  I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can 
|deal with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really".  
|That's not progression, its LAME.
|
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||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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||
||>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It
||>must
||be
||>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum
||>and bass.
||
||WTF?
||
||It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress
||things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip 
||hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop 
||party, because that's where they come from. alot of their 
||guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to 
||put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry 
||that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the 
||asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to 
||their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who 
||was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ?
||
||and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do
||something different at no personal gain for the people in 
||Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying.
||
||Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying
||that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can 
||you not look to the positive points?
||
||They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still
||went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was 
||there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to 
||me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a 
||curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I 
||dunno. 
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(313) breakbeat good life?

2003-07-14 Thread Kent williams
K Alexi and Gene Hunt played here friday night and Gene Hunt played
a white label 'Good Life' remix I'd neve heard before -- jazzy breakbeats,
the vocal with loads of echo, very sparing use of samples of the original.
What the eff was that?

Gene also played some Ron Hardy reel to reel tape edits (off of CDR) frome
wy back in the day. Super raw Acid House.  Very nice set, staying
deep but with a lot of variety.

K Alexi was good but the 200 shows I've either done sound for or attended
are catching up with me -- I didn't have earplugs with me and the sound
was starting to get painful, so I had to leave after 1/2 hour.



RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Taylor
No, but it would be cool!
Mills got cussed when he started playing disco cuts amongst his usual fare but 
sensible and open-minded people thought it was an inspired move.
Are you one of those guys who moans at a Hood gig cos he plays Destiny's Child 
or Wu Tang?
Possibly my favourite DJ is Laurent Garnier and he plays a bit of everything 
from house to techno to d'n'b to rave - and we love him for it.
Why do think so many people rate FK ferchrissakes? I heard him an astonishing 
variety of genres at his last gig at Plastic People -  I only heard one person 
bitching about it and he was a total nob.
One of the reasons I'm looking forward to Carl Craig at Plastic People in 
London is because I am hoping he will mix it up.
 -Original Message-
From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:40 PM
To: Robert Taylor; Ryan Snowden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London


Has everyone gone mad?

If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out
in gospel house do you?


|-Original Message-
|From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|Sent: 14 July 2003 14:36
|To: Ryan Snowden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|I think it's lame to go to a gig and hope everything confirms 
|to a narrowly prescribed set of parameters - ie it all must be 
|techno. There's not enough diversity in clubbing and I applaud 
|anyone making the effort to promote variety in a club night.
|
|-Original Message-
|From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:27 PM
|To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|Cr4p to that.
|
|If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then 
|you get a hip hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in 
|detroit who has a few half baked outdated hip hop records in 
|his collection which SURPRISE he is partial too.  That 
|combined with an MC trying to rhyme over aint-changin' really 
|takes the piss!  I can deal with curtains and heat, but I can 
|deal with a gig which is "oh a bit of everything really".  
|That's not progression, its LAME.
|
||-Original Message-
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
||Sent: 14 July 2003 13:26
||To: 313@hyperreal.org
||Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
||
||
||
||>A hip hop gig where they play deep house & disco.  Interesting.  It
||>must
||be
||>a manchester thing.. You know, next thing mills will be playing drum
||>and bass.
||
||WTF?
||
||It's called sticking your neck out and trying to progress
||things. Yeah, they play disco, deep house, broken beat, hip 
||hop, hungarian jazz, pop, techno, whatever. It's a hip hop 
||party, because that's where they come from. alot of their 
||guests are hip hop people too. I think they'd probably try to 
||put more techno and house guests on but I think they worry 
||that most house/techno people wouldn't understand the 
||asthetics of the party. Recloose was someone who fitted in to 
||their way of thinking because he plays across the board. Who 
||was their last guest? was it ?ouestlove ?
||
||and, no. It isn't a 'Manchester' thing, it's a trying to do
||something different at no personal gain for the people in 
||Manchester as there aren't alot of others trying.
||
||Jesus f**king christ. You've really pi**ed me off by saying
||that. Good parties in manchester are few and far between, can 
||you not look to the positive points?
||
||They had to sell out that party to even break-even. They still
||went ahead anyway. they thought people might enjoy it. I was 
||there at the end. Looked like a load of people enjoyed it to 
||me. I certainly did. But then, if you're going to let a 
||curtain ruin your night and then moan about it, then well, I 
||dunno. 
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread alex . bond

>If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to break out
>in gospel house do you?

well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno parties
if he did.

and not just us 'geeks' eh?
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Re: (313) breakbeat good life?

2003-07-14 Thread robin pinning

> K Alexi and Gene Hunt played here friday night and Gene Hunt played
> a white label 'Good Life' remix I'd neve heard before -- jazzy breakbeats,
> the vocal with loads of echo, very sparing use of samples of the original.
> What the eff was that?

kaori?

http://www.discogs.com/release/76296




robin...



RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread robin pinning


very good point, and one that's easy to forget/lose sight of...you're just
a consumer otherwise...then you're stuck with Pete Tong/judge jules/fergie
as the only type of dj that you see/hear

a personal hell that one...


r

> >That's not progression, its LAME.
>
> come back to me when you've made your contribution.
>
> either that, or spare a thought at how much effort it takes, or financial
> contribution to do something.
>
> undergound music is a d.i.y thing. You MUST make your contribution.
> We take pleasure from people around the world busting their balls to make
> their own little effort so that we can enjoy it and take our personal
> pleasure from it. Be it putting out records, or doing parties.
>
> If everyone was take take take, the whole thing would fall apart very
> quickly because a) they're ain't no money in it, b) it's a lot of hard work
> for little thanks or monetary gain.




RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Ryan Snowden
Its funny you should ask
I helped promote Recloose and common factor back in 2001 at a gig called Raw
Funk, also villalobos, eddie flashin fowlkes, heiko laux, alexander
kowalski, isolee.

Don't rant onto me about contribution and sacrafice.

Promoters should know if they're coming or going - not just shove on a gig
which cross-covers music genre's.  You're a sell out promoter who's just
trying to get punters if you start doing a sankeys.

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|
|
|>That's not progression, its LAME.
|
|come back to me when you've made your contribution.
|
|either that, or spare a thought at how much effort it takes, 
|or financial contribution to do something.
|
|undergound music is a d.i.y thing. You MUST make your 
|contribution. We take pleasure from people around the world 
|busting their balls to make their own little effort so that we 
|can enjoy it and take our personal pleasure from it. Be it 
|putting out records, or doing parties.
|
|If everyone was take take take, the whole thing would fall 
|apart very quickly because a) they're ain't no money in it, b) 
|it's a lot of hard work for little thanks or monetary gain.
|
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Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Adam H
People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt 
play techno?


Strange...



On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 08:54 America/Detroit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:




If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to 
break out

in gospel house do you?


well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno 
parties

if he did.

and not just us 'geeks' eh?
_

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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Taylor




Promoters should know if they're coming or going - not just shove on a gig
which cross-covers music genre's.  You're a sell out promoter who's just
trying to get punters if you start doing a sankeys.


>>>One word: Bollocks
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Ryan Snowden
Yeah maybe if he played classical with a hint of death metal it might
attract a crowd.

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|Sent: 14 July 2003 14:06
|To: 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if 
|he didnt 
|play techno?
|
|Strange...
|
|
|
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|>
|>> If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to
|>> break out
|>> in gospel house do you?
|>
|> well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno
|> parties
|> if he did.
|>
|> and not just us 'geeks' eh? 
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread robin pinning

> Yeah maybe if he played classical with a hint of death metal it might
> attract a crowd.


if the nite is a death metal nite with a broad mind and people enjoy it
what's the problem?

(hopefully you'll see the parallels with saturday in that)

robin...



RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Ryan Snowden
I don't see what broad mindedness has to do with people going along to see
recloose, a house producer on a primarily house record label and expecting
to hear house.  The broadmindedness comes in when they can still have a good
time.

And let me make this clear, I danced all night and I *also* had a great
time.  Not because I'm broad minded, but because life is too short :-)

|-Original Message-
|From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|Sent: 14 July 2003 14:10
|To: 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London
|
|
|
|> Yeah maybe if he played classical with a hint of death metal 
|it might 
|> attract a crowd.
|
|
|if the nite is a death metal nite with a broad mind and people 
|enjoy it what's the problem?
|
|(hopefully you'll see the parallels with saturday in that)
|
|robin...
|


RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Taylor
Aaaarrgggh! There are lot of people who want to hear more than just techno 
when they go out. Many older clubbers (not me, I hasten to add) have stopped 
going clubbing cos they have gotten bored of the tyranny of the kick drum and 
would be tempted back by a bit of diversity. To cater for that isn't 
commercialism, it's common sense - commercial clubs are NOT diverse in the 
music policy -  the kids at the moment love kick drums and little else (hence 
the popularity of hard house and hard trance).
 Haven't we been here before? Somebody ain't listening or is obtusely missing 
the point.

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Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:06 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London


People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt 
play techno?

Strange...



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>> If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to 
>> break out
>> in gospel house do you?
>
> well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno 
> parties
> if he did.
>
> and not just us 'geeks' eh?
> _
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Re: (313) Ken or Mojo or Greg ?

2003-07-14 Thread robin pinning


for more info

http://www.jahsonic.com/GregWilson.html

so anyone have any tapes of the piccadilly radio shows (or any mixes
by greg) they'd be willing to share? i'm curious. (i could even host em
on my website for sharing with people if that was cool...if not cool i'm
still interested!)


robin...



>
> Looks like I've opened a can of worms here, but it's an interesting one.
>
> Thanks for all the links and info, but how comes one of the key players in
> the rise of Electro/Techno never gets mentioned - Greg Wilson.
>
> md
>
>
> > |-Original Message-
> > |From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > |Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:55 PM
> > |To: 313
> > |Subject: (313) Ken or Mojo
> > |
> > |
> > |Hey 313ers...
> > |I'm writing a piece on "back in the day" in Sheffield/Detroit (74-82) and
> > |I'm interested in finding out more about Ken and Mojo, who was the first to
> > |champion techno for example? Can anyone point me at any info.
> > |
> > |Md
> > |
> > |
> >



(313) WBAR - Playlist - 7-11

2003-07-14 Thread Eric Scuccimarra

DJ Skooch
(www.skooch.com)

July 11, 2003 
5:30-8:00pm EST 
WBAR - 87.9 - live stream
www.wbar.org

Moodyman - Forevernevermore - KDJ
Moodyman - Sunday Morning - Planet E
Common Factor & John Redmond - World is Mine - Planet E
Soul Dharma - Flowers (KOT Mix) - Velocity
Glenn Underground - Trek A1 70$ - 3 to 5
Rick Wade - Still Angry - Touch of Class
Alton Miller - Extasol - Planet E
Pepe Braddock - Life - Atavisme
Mighty Dub Katz - Just Another Groove - Smile
Mighty Dub Katz - Magic Carpet Ride - Smile
Everything but the Girl - 5 Fathoms (? Rmx) - White
Sade - Haunt Me (Sneak Rmx) - White
Paperclip People - Climax (Dobre and Jamez Rmx) - Touche
Prince - Controvery (Purple Mix) - White
Todd Terry - When You Hold Me - TNT
Daft Punk - Around the World (MAW Mixes) - Virgin
Daft Punk - Around the World - Virgin
Daft Punk - Da Funk (AVH Mix) - Virgin
Dajae - Everyday My Life - Kid Dynamite
Atom... - Fever - Plastic City
Toronto Track Company - When the Spirits Rise - DNH
PJ w/ Saxy - All I Can Give - Stickman
Common Factor - Over You - Tactile
Eddie Flashin Fowlkes - Soul Train - City Boy
DJ Pierre - Atom Bomb - Twisted
Paul Johnson - MuthaF*cka - Relief
Green Velvet - The Stalker - Relief
Boo Williams - Last Call - Relief
Roy Davis Jr - Clap Your Hands - Strictly Rhythm
MJB - Beautiful - White
KOT - Fade II Black - Yoshitoshi
Dubtribe - Samba Dub - Imperial Dub
Francois K - Time & Space - NRK
Dubtribe - Acceleration - Organico
Garth & ETI - 20 Minutes of Disco Glory (Organ Grinder Mix) - Grayhound
I:cube - Disco Cubism (Daft Punk Rmx) - Versatile
The MP3s are available on my site www.skooch.com in the Sounds section or via direct link from:
http://www.skooch.com/Sounds/Skooch-WBAR-7-11-03-1.mp3
http://www.skooch.com/Sounds/Skooch-WBAR-7-11-03-2.mp3
The second track starts towards the end of the MAW Remixes of "Around the World"
Mixing and programming are not all that great but I was tired.




(313) Ken or Greg Collier ?

2003-07-14 Thread Martin
313ers...
I'm still very short on info on Ken Collier and his brother Greg, can anyone
help, I'm sure this timeline work I'm doing is going to kill me but it seems
that there are "massive gaps" in the history on both sides of the sea,
legend and myth is one thing, but some of the info I have seems to be very
revisionist. I'm not that interested in who was first, I'm interested in who
the players where? Many don't seem to be named in anything I've read but the
more people I speak to the more these names keep cropping up, so if anyone
in Detroit can help I'd be grateful...

Anyone with a contact for Greg Wilson in Manchester?

md






14/7/03 1:22 PM robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> 
> 
> for more info
> 
> http://www.jahsonic.com/GregWilson.html
> 
> so anyone have any tapes of the piccadilly radio shows (or any mixes
> by greg) they'd be willing to share? i'm curious. (i could even host em
> on my website for sharing with people if that was cool...if not cool i'm
> still interested!)
> 
> 
> robin...
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Looks like I've opened a can of worms here, but it's an interesting one.
>> 
>> Thanks for all the links and info, but how comes one of the key players in
>> the rise of Electro/Techno never gets mentioned - Greg Wilson.
>> 
>> md
>> 
>> 
>>> |-Original Message-
>>> |From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> |Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:55 PM
>>> |To: 313
>>> |Subject: (313) Ken or Mojo
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |Hey 313ers...
>>> |I'm writing a piece on "back in the day" in Sheffield/Detroit (74-82) and
>>> |I'm interested in finding out more about Ken and Mojo, who was the first to
>>> |champion techno for example? Can anyone point me at any info.
>>> |
>>> |Md
>>> |
>>> |
>>> 
> 
> 



Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Adam H

Tyranny of the kick drum eh?  O_o

_I dont have a problem with diversity_ but I do have a problem with  
non-techno somehow being a techno progression, getting people into  
"techno parties" by not playing techno, etc etc




On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 10:13 America/Detroit, Robert Taylor wrote:

Aaaarrgggh! There are lot of people who want to hear more than  
just techno when they go out. Many older clubbers (not me, I hasten to  
add) have stopped going clubbing cos they have gotten bored of the  
tyranny of the kick drum and would be tempted back by a bit of  
diversity. To cater for that isn't commercialism, it's common sense -  
commercial clubs are NOT diverse in the music policy -  the kids at  
the moment love kick drums and little else (hence the popularity of  
hard house and hard trance).
 Haven't we been here before? Somebody ain't listening or is obtusely  
missing the point.


-Original Message-
From: Adam H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:06 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London


People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt
play techno?

Strange...



On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 08:54 America/Detroit, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:




If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to
break out
in gospel house do you?


well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno
parties
if he did.

and not just us 'geeks' eh?
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread alex . bond

>Its funny you should ask
>I helped promote Recloose and common factor back in 2001 at a gig called
Raw
>Funk, also villalobos, eddie flashin fowlkes, heiko laux, alexander
>kowalski, isolee.

OK, not in Manchester though?
I'm talking about Manchester particuarly because it's a fickle market
(obviously its smaller than London, and therefore the percentage of people
interested is smaller) and one that needs someone to do something for the
people who live here. It's ball breaking stuff to be honest. I did it for
at least 5 years.

>Don't rant onto me about contribution and sacrafice.

OK, fair enough, I apologise. You caught me at a bad time.

anyway, I'm sure people are sick of this now, so I'll shut up. But please
remember, this isn't London or Glasgow - and we have to take what we can
get. Rather that than nothing in my opinion.
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Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread robin pinning

> Tyranny of the kick drum eh?  O_o
>
> _I dont have a problem with diversity_ but I do have a problem with
> non-techno somehow being a techno progression, getting people into
> "techno parties" by not playing techno, etc etc

techno came out of a huge variety of different types of musicmaybe
going back to a more varied approach will yield a progression?

no one knows the answer to this but i'm willing to give it a go :)

robin...



Re: (313) Greg Wilson mix

2003-07-14 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

found a mix online at deephousepage.com

http://www.deephousepage.com/gregwilson.htm




   
  Martin
   
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
 
  com> cc:  
   
   Subject:  Re: (313)  Ken or Mojo 
or Greg ?  
  07/14/03 10:56 AM 
   

   

   




He's the missing link between Northern Soul/Electro/Techno and a unsung
hero...

Search here for info
http://www.jahsonic.com/





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>
> er ah, who *is* Greg Wilson? This is the first I've ever heard the name.
>
> MEK
>
>
>
>
>
> Martin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   313
<313@hyperreal.org>
> com> cc:
>  Subject:  (313)  Ken or Mojo
or
> Greg ?
> 07/14/03 08:36 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi 313ers,
>
> Looks like I've opened a can of worms here, but it's an interesting one.
>
> Thanks for all the links and info, but how comes one of the key players
in
> the rise of Electro/Techno never gets mentioned - Greg Wilson.
>
> md
>
>
>> |-Original Message-
>> |From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> |Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:55 PM
>> |To: 313
>> |Subject: (313) Ken or Mojo
>> |
>> |
>> |Hey 313ers...
>> |I'm writing a piece on "back in the day" in Sheffield/Detroit (74-82)
> and
>> |I'm interested in finding out more about Ken and Mojo, who was the
first
> to
>> |champion techno for example? Can anyone point me at any info.
>> |
>> |Md
>> |
>> |
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>








RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Quest Pond
I think both dj's who only play techno and dj's who mix it are  both valid 
approaches.

Its just a style thing and this is some dj's style and they are good at it and 
can get away with it while some dj's i would prefer to hear play techno all 
night because this is what they play best.

Neither is wrong, and really i can enjoy both just depending on what i feel 
like. I think the important thing is going to see a DJ's interpretation of the 
music and as long as its done tastefully and i'm in the mood for it then fine 
by me.

Also techno doesn't haven't to be all 4/4 tyranny, there does exist techno 
without 4/4 beats.

One more spanner in the works here-maybe peoples interpretation of dance music 
and or techno can differ  from their exposure depending on their age and 
locality so its going to be impossible to come to a general consensus.

Its all good if its good.


Quest


RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread David Powers
I don't want to take sides on this or anything.

I just wondered if hip hop is not as mainstream there or something?

Here in Chicago there are a million places to hear hip hop and not just the top 
40 stuff but more underground (relatively) stuff plus tons of rare groove and 
funk and soul.  

With house it is still here, although quite a bit less, it isn't surprising to 
hear some deep house at all kinds of random small bars however.

For techno, along with minimal, microhouse, electro (not clash) and 
experimental, there is very little, and almost zero Detroit style techno.
 
The point being, for a US DJ to play hiphop is a kind of mainstream thing to do 
in my opinion, not that it isn't good but seems like that stuff already gets a 
lot of play.  Of course things are different over there across the ocean.  But 
I guess I could see how I might be disappointed if I went hoping to hear some 
Detroit style sounds and got hiphop which I get to hear constantly.

/Dave

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>That's not progression, its LAME.

come back to me when you've made your contribution.

either that, or spare a thought at how much effort it takes, or financial
contribution to do something.

undergound music is a d.i.y thing. You MUST make your contribution.
We take pleasure from people around the world busting their balls to make
their own little effort so that we can enjoy it and take our personal
pleasure from it. Be it putting out records, or doing parties.

If everyone was take take take, the whole thing would fall apart very
quickly because a) they're ain't no money in it, b) it's a lot of hard work
for little thanks or monetary gain.

_

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Re: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?

2003-07-14 Thread RAW2019
ok txs !!!
- Original Message -
From: "Alex Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'313 detroit'"
<313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?


> 33 is grant hill isnt it?
>
> also, ive seen these 33 shirts.. its got to be a basketball thing
>
> ab
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:02 PM
> To: '313 detroit'
> Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?
>
>
>
> Isiah Thomas was #11.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:15 AM
> To: RAW2019; 313 detroit
> Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?
>
> isiah thomas was #33 for the detroit pistons... maybe its that!
>
> ab
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:59 PM
> To: 313 detroit
> Subject: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?
>
>
> hi list,
>
> i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one
> i can't find it in google
>
> can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ?
>
> txs
>
> RAW
>
> btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose,
> carl
> en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha
> (check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of
> the
> festival )
>
> RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com
>
>
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Re: (313) bug in bassbin drums ?

2003-07-14 Thread RAW2019
Hi Silvia,

Sorry but you make to much conclusions ...
I did not say that, neither did carl .. he probably sampled them from a real
drummer
which could be the reason why ppl can't find those beats

but I don't know either
that's why asked the question and made the link with the percusionist of
outherzone orchestra.

anyway,  thanks for replying :-)

RAW


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Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:54 AM
Subject: RE: (313) bug in bassbin drums ?


>
> He got the nerves to say that ?
> If he really said that
> he'd better to give more credit to people.
> CC made BIB in 1992 ? I guess he hasn't cleared it.
> that might why he said that.
>
> Well, the world is not just about
> esoteric-underground-hipsterz and
> masses-of-bland-stupidity-Less-than-Jake.
> We have also true/real music lovers
> with immense musical background, hopefully.
>
> Snipped from McCoy Tyner's "Passion Dance" 1978 -
> Reedited by a major company last year.
>
>
> |-Original Message-
> |From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:45 PM
> |To: 313 detroit
> |Subject: (313) bug in bassbin drums ?
> |
> |
> |yep it's me again
> |carl once said that nobody could find where he got the beats from
> |for bug in the bassbin ...
> |
> |i heard outherzone orchestra lasr friday
> |and came to conclusion this could be 'that' drumsound of bug in a bassbin
> |(outherzone orchestra is formed around former sunra orkestra members!)
> |
> |anybody got a clue ?
> |
> |RAW
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
>




(313) FS: Sequential Multi-Trak

2003-07-14 Thread logic7
Aiight y'all... I'm moving out west to Arizona in a few weeks. I have to
consolidate my rig to a small keyboard and my PC. I need to get rid of my
old faithful Sequential Circuits board. It needs a new battery (readily
available at Radio Shack) and a pitch bend pot (usually available from Wine
Country). It's in pretty good shape and sounds great, but since I switched
to software last year I've only used it as a controller. I'm asking $100 or
best offer. I would prefer a local buyer (S.E. Michigan), but could probably
work something out with someone out of state.

George Jones/Logic7
http://always.nu
http://www.geocities.com/labwerx
734-340-4704
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(313) Niko Marks interview up at Technotourist.org

2003-07-14 Thread John Osselaer
Hi,

We have a new interview up at Technotourist.org: Niko Marks

Niko Marks used to be part of Members of the House and Unit 2. He also
worked together with Eddie Fowlkes. He now is stepping into the
spotlight with his own releases on Planet-e and he has a full album
ready: 'Cosmology'. Those who were lucky enough to see his live show at
the Movement festival know that this guy is incredibly talented. And he
has some really interesting things to say...

You can read the interview at:
http://technotourist.org and then click on interviews and select Niko
Marks or,

Go directly to the interview here:
http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index
&req=viewarticle&artid=31

Enjoy!


John


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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Ralf Gill
Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber?
Also, if hi vocals are hissy/ distorted is that my needle or the record
damaged? Can you tell by looking at a record if its damaged? and if so
how...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 2:13 a.m.
To: Adam H; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London


Aaaarrgggh! There are lot of people who want to hear more than just
techno when they go out. Many older clubbers (not me, I hasten to add) have
stopped going clubbing cos they have gotten bored of the tyranny of the kick
drum and would be tempted back by a bit of diversity. To cater for that
isn't commercialism, it's common sense - commercial clubs are NOT diverse in
the music policy -  the kids at the moment love kick drums and little else
(hence the popularity of hard house and hard trance).
 Haven't we been here before? Somebody ain't listening or is obtusely
missing the point.

-Original Message-
From: Adam H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:06 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London


People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt 
play techno?

Strange...



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>> If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to 
>> break out
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>
> well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno 
> parties
> if he did.
>
> and not just us 'geeks' eh?
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk

At 04:17 PM 7/14/2003, Ralf Gill wrote:

Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber?


Dunno. I'm 46, but I'm usually not able to BE out that late :-) (work + 
school, etc.)
And if I was, it would be the overwhelming cigarette smoke WHICH would keep 
me away otherwise.

I choose my venues with that in mind.

jeff








RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk
Just for the record, my email program has taken to capitalizing words now 
and then when memory is dragged upon - the word "which" in my last email 
has no special significance.


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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Ralf Gill wrote on Tue, 15 Jul 2003 about following:

> Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber?

28!

> Also, if hi vocals are hissy/ distorted is that my needle or the record
> damaged? Can you tell by looking at a record if its damaged? and if so
> how...

Could be worn-out record, or worn-out needle; OR just horribly badly 
mastered track, quite common mistake nowadays - just too much 
compression. try with other needle, if the sound is still the same, it's 
either record or mastering; then compare two copies of the record.. 

and you might want to read this too:
http://needleexpress.com/faq.htm


sakke
-- 
Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/


(313) good life

2003-07-14 Thread philip

> K Alexi and Gene Hunt played here friday night and Gene Hunt played
> a white label 'Good Life' remix I'd neve heard before -- jazzy breakbeats,
> the vocal with loads of echo, very sparing use of samples of the original.
> What the eff was that?

i wonder if this was the same version stacey pullen played in melbourne a
few weeks ago - sounds like it might be. it was pretty cool.

p 



Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread lisa
Well, playing the same style all night at ~ the same bpm is just fooking 
boring, I don't care how old you are or what music happens to be 
popular. I felt this way 15 years ago and I still feel this way @ 37. 
Which btw, is prolly not the average age (if there is one). hehe


lisa


Ralf Gill wrote:

Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber?
Also, if hi vocals are hissy/ distorted is that my needle or the record
damaged? Can you tell by looking at a record if its damaged? and if so
how...

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 2:13 a.m.
To: Adam H; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London


Aaaarrgggh! There are lot of people who want to hear more than just
techno when they go out. Many older clubbers (not me, I hasten to add) have
stopped going clubbing cos they have gotten bored of the tyranny of the kick
drum and would be tempted back by a bit of diversity. To cater for that
isn't commercialism, it's common sense - commercial clubs are NOT diverse in
the music policy -  the kids at the moment love kick drums and little else
(hence the popularity of hard house and hard trance).
 Haven't we been here before? Somebody ain't listening or is obtusely
missing the point.

-Original Message-
From: Adam H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:06 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London


People might show and interest in going to "techno parties" if he didnt 
play techno?


Strange...



On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 08:54 America/Detroit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



If you go to a gig and Vogel is playing, you don't expect him to 
break out

in gospel house do you?


well, perhaps the world might show an interest in going to techno 
parties

if he did.

and not just us 'geeks' eh?
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RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread Ralf Gill
Specifically Security on Automan 6..when the women speaks its sounds very
tttss, distorted sibilance I think is the phrase used..is this the
record or my setup? Anyone else heard this?

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From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:13 a.m.
To: Ralf Gill
Cc: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: (313) 313 Weekend in London


Ralf Gill wrote on Tue, 15 Jul 2003 about following:

> Just wondering whats the average age of an older clubber?

28!

> Also, if hi vocals are hissy/ distorted is that my needle or the record
> damaged? Can you tell by looking at a record if its damaged? and if so
> how...

Could be worn-out record, or worn-out needle; OR just horribly badly 
mastered track, quite common mistake nowadays - just too much 
compression. try with other needle, if the sound is still the same, it's 
either record or mastering; then compare two copies of the record.. 

and you might want to read this too:
http://needleexpress.com/faq.htm


sakke
-- 
Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/


Re: (313) 313 Weekend in London

2003-07-14 Thread David Gillies

Ryan Snowden wrote:


Cr4p to that.

If you're going to put on a hip hop gig or broken beats then you get a hip
hop dude, not some deep house dj off a label in detroit who has a few half

Have you seen Recloose dj at all before?? He's always far from being 
just a "deep house dj". The two times I've seen him at a "deep house" 
night here in Sydney, he's always been right across the board. From 
hip-hop to electro to deep house to funk to disco to broken beat to 
techno and beyond.