Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
er yeah, it was a joke - you're supposed to laugh at it - sheesh MEK David Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] thms.com To 06/22/05 12:08 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shouldn't KMS be marketing the hoover - after all Kevin did invent it or are you saying that Metroplex sucks? ;) Kevin definitely did NOT invent the hoover. Talk to Roland. Who ever programmed that patch on the Alpha Juno series, is the one that invented it. Kevin's the one that made it famous initially but it definitely existed before Kevin got it. Cheers, Dave
Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
Man, why y'all so cynical (though you all make me laugh with the suggestions, esp Alex). I think it's a good thing to merchandise... Label owners need to be inventive to generate funds for labels with the drop in music sales and Axis is a cult label. -- From: David Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 3:08 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shouldn't KMS be marketing the hoover - after all Kevin did invent it or are you saying that Metroplex sucks? ;) Kevin definitely did NOT invent the hoover. Talk to Roland. Who ever programmed that patch on the Alpha Juno series, is the one that invented it. Kevin's the one that made it famous initially but it definitely existed before Kevin got it. Cheers, Dave
Re: (313) Ultravox
Why? Man, he had a superb, soulful voice like fellow Scot Annie Lennox - strong contrast with the electronic music. (I notice that Eurythmics are experiencing a revival among leftfield club DJs at the moment.) And, man, did he not have the look. Suave with a capital S! The record Vienna is magnificent! I just got the Vienna LP for $5 (around US$8) yesterday - mint - in a little second hand shop in Camberwell along with Rage In Eden Dare. What a steal. His later solo stuff was mixed - I agree, though his version of No Regrets is cool. BTW I recently did an interview with Howard Jones! He is such a cat! It's a real joy interviewing these 80s acts who are now being recognised. Maybe I can post it online somewhere. He is quite familiar with current electronic music and had some interesting insights into the marketing of electronic music. Iva Davies of Icehouse is fascinating too. Avoid all Ure-era Ultravox like the plague :-) what about Herr X/Mr X Greg? Do you not like that one...? thats from 'ure' era maybe?
RE: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
I think part of the reason why we're all so cynical is because axis is so serious about it? I wonder if him living in Japan plays any part of the influence in Axis merchandising. Japanese fans always get a wider range of merchandise and when I read their mags I just have to laugh at all the stuff that's 'exclusive to Japan' I read somewhere that ellen alien is going to launch her own fashion label... even tho her site already stocks some (expensive) clothing etc -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:15 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands Man, why y'all so cynical (though you all make me laugh with the suggestions, esp Alex). I think it's a good thing to merchandise... Label owners need to be inventive to generate funds for labels with the drop in music sales and Axis is a cult label. -- From: David Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 3:08 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shouldn't KMS be marketing the hoover - after all Kevin did invent it or are you saying that Metroplex sucks? ;) Kevin definitely did NOT invent the hoover. Talk to Roland. Who ever programmed that patch on the Alpha Juno series, is the one that invented it. Kevin's the one that made it famous initially but it definitely existed before Kevin got it. Cheers, Dave ## Notice: The information contained in this electronic mail is intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you have received this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system and kindly notify the sender. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce any part of this electronic mail or disclose its contents to any other party. ##
RE: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
-- Original Message -- From: Melody Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think part of the reason why we're all so cynical is because axis is so serious about it? i like inventive mechandise. i always wanted a pair of those metalheadz shoes but they were crazy money due to the exchange rate. sweat bands are not my kind of thing, but i thought UR's bandanas were cool. im a big dork so i have tons of label shirts (for all genres, not just dance music!) and buttons and patches and whatnot. axis isnt even my favorite jeff mills stuff so im not that into their stuff but i still gotta say that jeff always finds ways to get people talking about him and his projects! tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
Maybe. Though I think Jeff has a gentle sense of humour... I don't think he has a residency in Japan, just plays there a lot. The Japanese market is amazing though. In one store in Shibuya there's a whole wall devoted to the Detroit fest. I would like an Axis Hello Kitty range though... with sweatbands. Kitty playing records with headphones. Could be cute. ;) I think part of the reason why we're all so cynical is because axis is so serious about it? I wonder if him living in Japan plays any part of the influence in Axis merchandising. Japanese fans always get a wider range of merchandise and when I read their mags I just have to laugh at all the stuff that's 'exclusive to Japan' I read somewhere that ellen alien is going to launch her own fashion label... even tho her site already stocks some (expensive) clothing etc
RE: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
isnt' that shibuya store disk union? there wans't THAT much stuff. of course maybe I was expecting a lot more ;) In hindsight I should have taken a picture of it but I was too busy buying records :P they already had a hello kitty mini ipod (and a doraemon one!) so why not have an axis hello kitty... special pink edition! -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:51 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands Maybe. Though I think Jeff has a gentle sense of humour... I don't think he has a residency in Japan, just plays there a lot. The Japanese market is amazing though. In one store in Shibuya there's a whole wall devoted to the Detroit fest. I would like an Axis Hello Kitty range though... with sweatbands. Kitty playing records with headphones. Could be cute. ;) I think part of the reason why we're all so cynical is because axis is so serious about it? I wonder if him living in Japan plays any part of the influence in Axis merchandising. Japanese fans always get a wider range of merchandise and when I read their mags I just have to laugh at all the stuff that's 'exclusive to Japan' I read somewhere that ellen alien is going to launch her own fashion label... even tho her site already stocks some (expensive) clothing etc ## Notice: The information contained in this electronic mail is intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you have received this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system and kindly notify the sender. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce any part of this electronic mail or disclose its contents to any other party. ##
Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
Yeah it was Disk Union (thanks, I couldn't recall the name!) - there wasn't much maybe as I raided it first. ;) He he he. I want a Hello Kitty Axis record bag. And maybe a frisbee. isnt' that shibuya store disk union? there wans't THAT much stuff. of course maybe I was expecting a lot more ;) In hindsight I should have taken a picture of it but I was too busy buying records :P they already had a hello kitty mini ipod (and a doraemon one!) so why not have an axis hello kitty... special pink edition!
RE: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
they had a whole heap of art stuff there that you couldn't buy. disk union basically stocks the same merchandise as the submerge store and I worked out it was cheaper to buy from submerge yeah record bag would be cute, maybe some badges. I draw the line at axis/hello kitty underwear tho -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:10 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands Yeah it was Disk Union (thanks, I couldn't recall the name!) - there wasn't much maybe as I raided it first. ;) He he he. I want a Hello Kitty Axis record bag. And maybe a frisbee. isnt' that shibuya store disk union? there wans't THAT much stuff. of course maybe I was expecting a lot more ;) In hindsight I should have taken a picture of it but I was too busy buying records :P they already had a hello kitty mini ipod (and a doraemon one!) so why not have an axis hello kitty... special pink edition! ## Notice: The information contained in this electronic mail is intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you have received this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system and kindly notify the sender. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce any part of this electronic mail or disclose its contents to any other party. ##
Re: (313) Ultravox
On Jun 22, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Greg Earle wrote: Whoa, this must be the Generation Gap[tm] speaking. (Sorry Cyclone :-) ) At the risk of breaking ranks, I will respectfully disagree with my slightly older brother. ;-) Vienna is brilliant electronic music, and it crystallized the dispassionate neu-romantic aesthetic. If we could replace Midge's voice with John Foxx, I'll bet Greg would love it. The same holds true to a somewhat lesser extent with Rage in Eden. And Alex nails it: Mr. X begat Alleys of Your Mind after all. My own (highly biased) suggestions: Foxx's Metamatic. (One of the Greatest Albums Ever Made) Systems Of Romance. (Classic) Ha! Ha! Ha!. (If only for Hiroshima Mon Amour, one of their best) Ultravox! (first album) if the rest made you a fan. All good suggestions as well, but it was a different Ultravox. On that we agree. -- Ian
RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
-Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:17 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Rush Hour ( http://rushhour.nl ) is in the early stages of providing mp3's from many of their distributed labels -- they'll be available direct thru rh, but they should also end up at iTunes etc. I think you can already buy mp3's of some of the Delsin albums (or individual songs from the albums), via the rh site..probably some other stuff too Cool. Please say they're going to do it at higher than 192kbps (OK, probably not). Yeah I know they all say 'it's virtually indistinguishable from CD quality in earphones' but deep down we all know it so isn't. k Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Record Shops Abroad
--- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --- Von: Krzysztof Sluka [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Thorin Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: (313) Record Shops Abroad Datum: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:26:34 +0200 (MEST) he should check freebase records in frankfurt. best shop in this area. more shops in frankfurt are pro vinyl and delirium. also pentagon records in darmstadt (very close to heidelberg), small shop with a very nice, friendly and helpful crew. --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Thorin Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) Record Shops Abroad Datum: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:14:18 -0400 Duh. It's in Heidelburg, which is near Frankfurt apparently. Hope that helps. :) Carlos de Brito wrote: hi thorin, you gotta be a bit more precisely, there a loads of record shops in germany. which area in germany exactly do you mean? berlin, hamburg, cologne, munich, frankfurt, ruhrgebiet, other cities? Thorin Teague wrote: I have a friend in germany and a friend headed to singapore soon. I would like to know if anyone would suggest any record stores that I should send these two individuals to so I can get some cool foreign techno. :) Plz include street address. Thanks in advance for your help. -- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail gratis + 3 Ausgaben stern gratis ++ Jetzt anmelden testen ++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail ++ -- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail gratis + 3 Ausgaben stern gratis ++ Jetzt anmelden testen ++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail ++
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
the things at rush hour are 256 kBps Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:17 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Rush Hour ( http://rushhour.nl ) is in the early stages of providing mp3's from many of their distributed labels -- they'll be available direct thru rh, but they should also end up at iTunes etc. I think you can already buy mp3's of some of the Delsin albums (or individual songs from the albums), via the rh site..probably some other stuff too Cool. Please say they're going to do it at higher than 192kbps (OK, probably not). Yeah I know they all say 'it's virtually indistinguishable from CD quality in earphones' but deep down we all know it so isn't. k Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!) Ken -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 10:41 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Don't Beatport do them at 320... Martin On 23 Jun 2005, at 10:36, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Well that's amazing! That's very rare, I think in the net labels market, I believe. I will definitely be a customer. I hope other net labels follow. I notice West End recently opted for 192kbps at their recent net launch. I mean, if you want the stuff you'll buy, whatever the quality (and a lot of us want those more obscure West End tracks) but you always get that niggling feeling that it could sound better. Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 08:44 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? the things at rush hour are 256 kBps Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:17 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Rush Hour ( http://rushhour.nl ) is in the early stages of providing mp3's from many of their distributed labels -- they'll be available direct thru rh, but they should also end up at iTunes etc. I think you can already buy mp3's of some of the Delsin albums (or individual songs from the albums), via the rh site..probably some other stuff too Cool. Please say they're going to do it at higher than 192kbps (OK, probably not). Yeah I know they all say 'it's virtually indistinguishable from CD quality in earphones' but deep down we all know it so isn't. k Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) i struggle with this one, i think i prefer to buy vinyl. partly cos i love it but partly cos of the whole package (i prefer cds to downloads too). hats off to marsel for the 256k mp3s tho (but like ken i'd prefer full fat) robin... Odeluga, Ken wrote: So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!)
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Aye, I've been thinking of doing FLAC versions for Dust Science stuff but I have to admit the digital market place gives me a headache, like Robin I like my objects - there something so final about a 12 Martin On 23 Jun 2005, at 10:46, Odeluga, Ken wrote: So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!) Ken -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 10:41 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Don't Beatport do them at 320... Martin On 23 Jun 2005, at 10:36, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Well that's amazing! That's very rare, I think in the net labels market, I believe. I will definitely be a customer. I hope other net labels follow. I notice West End recently opted for 192kbps at their recent net launch. I mean, if you want the stuff you'll buy, whatever the quality (and a lot of us want those more obscure West End tracks) but you always get that niggling feeling that it could sound better. Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 08:44 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? the things at rush hour are 256 kBps Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:17 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Rush Hour ( http://rushhour.nl ) is in the early stages of providing mp3's from many of their distributed labels -- they'll be available direct thru rh, but they should also end up at iTunes etc. I think you can already buy mp3's of some of the Delsin albums (or individual songs from the albums), via the rh site..probably some other stuff too Cool. Please say they're going to do it at higher than 192kbps (OK, probably not). Yeah I know they all say 'it's virtually indistinguishable from CD quality in earphones' but deep down we all know it so isn't. k Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Aye, I've been thinking of doing FLAC versions for Dust Science stuff but I have to admit the digital market place gives me a headache, like Robin I like my objects - there something so final about a 12 I like my 'objects' too. something to hold and to look at. i think ultimately this is what will keep the 'physical object' music marketplace going (?) however, gotta be worth looking into martin - theres lots of people out there who will want your stuff but dont buy records anymore - and theres no cds available of your stuff yet? I always think its money for old rope almost - doesn't cost anything to put up? everything is already done and mastered anyway - and even if you had 50/50, its 50p a track for you - all helps I guess? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
FW: (313) Ultravox
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 09:49 Cyclone, Howard Jones was massive here! in the charts all the time etc, as a young (very) kid I had all his ahem cassettes. Can't really remember anything dead good he did though (?) anything that stood the test of time (?). hmm, might investigate, but it was all pretty poppy no? can't remember any leftfield kinda dubs or anything New Song, What Is Love and Like To Get To Know You Well are all great! (IMO) Does poppy necessarily mean short lived? Does doing leftfield dubs (which, lets face it plenty have, therefore not really an entitlement to ahead of their time genius) automatically move the artist to a higher plane?
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
robin wrote: this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) I've been collecting MP3's off the free net labels for 10 months. I will never buy vinyl again, I might buy a CD. There are artists who I have collected from net labels who I would pay for, if their new releases were available only from pay sites. I would prefer higher bit rate, and would pay for higher bit rate versions of some of my favourite 'free' tracks. Personally I tend to burn my music to CD and play it using Pioneer CDJ's. I am looking at the next alternative being Final Scratch, Serato or Live 5 Digital is such a convenient method of having music for me. I much as I like vinyl it never was the gospel for me. I have no future interest in spending money on vinyl. I am not interested in packaging or objects of music. .simon -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
Re: FW: (313) Ultravox
Does poppy necessarily mean short lived? no, not at all! sorry didnt quite come across right there Does doing leftfield dubs (which, lets face it plenty have, therefore not really an entitlement to ahead of their time genius) automatically move the artist to a higher plane? no! ha, must have been sounding an arse. no, its just what I'm more interested in, thats all _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aye, I've been thinking of doing FLAC versions for Dust Science stuff but I have to admit the digital market place gives me a headache, like Robin I like my objects - there something so final about a 12 I like my 'objects' too. something to hold and to look at. i think ultimately this is what will keep the 'physical object' music marketplace going (?) so thinking about it...it's not really the object i like (though that is nice, and let's face it it's something we've all been collecting for years) it's more the fact that i can't lose it on a harddrive or just forget where i put the file etc. I always think its money for old rope almost - doesn't cost anything to put up? everything is already done and mastered anyway - and even if you had 50/50, its 50p a track for you - all helps I guess? well for martin he probs has all the payment stuff set on his website, so the only other costs then is hosting/bandwidth. robin...
FW: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
-Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 13:15 it's more the fact that i can't lose it on a harddrive or just forget where i put the file etc. yeeks! one reason digital appeals to me (not that I've actually put into practice using it yet) is this is exactly what happens to my analogs! Is there no hope?
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Wait until HD goes down :) On 23 Jun 2005, at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 13:15 it's more the fact that i can't lose it on a harddrive or just forget where i put the file etc. yeeks! one reason digital appeals to me (not that I've actually put into practice using it yet) is this is exactly what happens to my analogs! Is there no hope?
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this is what i worry about. never happened to me but it will one day. i have one external HD at the mo and that mirrors my laptop but i have extra stuff on there that isn't backed up. that worries me a lot. francis: i can find most of my vinyl if i look hard enough, took ages to get it that organised :) robin... Martin Dust wrote: Wait until HD goes down :) On 23 Jun 2005, at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 13:15 it's more the fact that i can't lose it on a harddrive or just forget where i put the file etc. yeeks! one reason digital appeals to me (not that I've actually put into practice using it yet) is this is exactly what happens to my analogs! Is there no hope?
FW: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
-Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 13:43 this is what i worry about. never happened to me but it will one day. i have one external HD at the mo and that mirrors my laptop but i have extra stuff on there that isn't backed up. that worries me a lot. Only use a PC at work at the mo (this has been supposed to change for about a year and hopefully will in the next 3 months). In it I have 2 drives - I back one up to the other with Ghost about once a week so hopefully I can carry that discipline home. francis: i can find most of my vinyl if i look hard enough, took ages to get it that organised :) I'm organised - if everything's where it should be (which it is 99% of the time). My problems are getting pi*sed and having parties (often both), that's when things disappear and emerge months or, in extreme cases, years later. Manchester 313 headz will recall my recent panic when I lost Virtual Sex (though that seems funny now when I see it [not] in every shop window) only for it to turn up wedged in the end of a record rack.
RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Well that's the reason why I asked for a list of who offered digital downloads in the first place. Geeze, my turntables sit collecting dust. I hate the thought of thinking about my next move where I have to box up all my old vinyl. And really, if you take the time to catalog, and backup your music collection it should be fine. Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. Plus, there's really no worry about music going out of print with digital format. The problem of scarcity is gone. -- -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:59 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) i struggle with this one, i think i prefer to buy vinyl. partly cos i love it but partly cos of the whole package (i prefer cds to downloads too). hats off to marsel for the 256k mp3s tho (but like ken i'd prefer full fat) robin... Odeluga, Ken wrote: So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!)
RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
I'm surprised ACME isn't in the act Gil, perhaps you should suggest it. ACMETECHNODOWNLOAD.COM sounds like a winner to me. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Gil Yaker wrote: Well that's the reason why I asked for a list of who offered digital downloads in the first place. Geeze, my turntables sit collecting dust. I hate the thought of thinking about my next move where I have to box up all my old vinyl. And really, if you take the time to catalog, and backup your music collection it should be fine. Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. Plus, there's really no worry about music going out of print with digital format. The problem of scarcity is gone. i'm sure this scarcity can be artificially introduced. i guess the pressure from bootleggers is then replaced by pressure from p2p --- the more i think about it, if the bitrate is high enough (or it's a wav) and the price is right (it'll have to be less than vinylno media) then eventually i might give in to the idea. robin...
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
At 09:11 AM 6/23/2005, robin wrote: the more i think about it, if the bitrate is high enough (or it's a wav) and the price is right (it'll have to be less than vinylno media) then eventually i might give in to the idea. it would be nice if everyone gave you your choice of download format. you could pick from mp3, aac, WAV, FLAC, AIFF, and um, Sound Designer II. it would also be nice the stores kept records of who has a license for which track so you could redownload lost files (for a nominal fee if necessary). -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Gil Yaker wrote: Geeze, my turntables sit collecting dust. mine do toothey need an overhaul which i haven't been arsed to get around to doing. the only turntable that gets any use in my house is the hifi one i use to record all my vinyl. robin...
RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised ACME isn't in the act Gil, perhaps you should suggest it. ACMETECHNODOWNLOAD.COM sounds like a winner to me. : ) What about ACMEOFFSITEBACKUPSERVICE.COM Alex to ease peoples fears about loosing their digital files - your missing a market there I think Cheers BT
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
matt kane's brain wrote: At 09:11 AM 6/23/2005, robin wrote: the more i think about it, if the bitrate is high enough (or it's a wav) and the price is right (it'll have to be less than vinylno media) then eventually i might give in to the idea. it would be nice if everyone gave you your choice of download format. you could pick from mp3, aac, WAV, FLAC, AIFF, and um, Sound Designer II. it would also be nice the stores kept records of who has a license for which track so you could redownload lost files (for a nominal fee if necessary). yes! i've been banging on about that for a couple of years. not sure how workable a situation that would be tho. robin...
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
At 09:16 AM 6/23/2005, robin wrote: yes! i've been banging on about that for a couple of years. not sure how workable a situation that would be tho. robin... multi-format downloads have been handled by magnatune for a while now. re-downloads i'm not so sure on, but if you have some sort of account history function you could tie into that. i just hope there isn't a patent on it. (so i can patent the idea, ha ha ha) -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
RE: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
I draw the line at axis/hello kitty underwear tho Why? That's soo hot. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
multi-format downloads have been handled by magnatune for a while now. re-downloads i'm not so sure on, but if you have some sort of account history function you could tie into that. i just hope there isn't a patent on it. (so i can patent the idea, ha ha ha) it's a license you're talking about here i think. you're buying the license to have the file/music just like software. robin...
RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
One half-way house solution (really its fudge!) might be to buy one of those new pro-CD decks which can play mp3s. I almost bought one recently, although in the event I opted for an ordinary deck on price, thinking that, if it came down to it, I could of course just burn CD-Rs of mp3s, (biting my tongue on the sound quality issue.) This way, I can always maintain the full-spectrum quality and ethos and malleability of analogue DJing (or so-called DJing, in my case, ha!) and play out anything I might only possess in mp3 format, on CD. However, I realized years ago that the benefits of digital are overwhelming and it's just a matter of time before I decide to go for it properly (I'll always need some proper hands-on format though so I would probably still look at final scratch or serato (?), possibly Ableton.) But I would wherever possible, still buy vinyl and/or cds. Even if I played out digital files, I'd still like to know that I had access to the full-fat version. Plus it gives you the flexibility to decide the quality at which you play them out - that might depend on how long a set you have, laptop capacity etc ... hmmm. K -Original Message- From: Gil Yaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 14:05 To: 313@hyperreal.org; 'robin' Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Well that's the reason why I asked for a list of who offered digital downloads in the first place. Geeze, my turntables sit collecting dust. I hate the thought of thinking about my next move where I have to box up all my old vinyl. And really, if you take the time to catalog, and backup your music collection it should be fine. Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. Plus, there's really no worry about music going out of print with digital format. The problem of scarcity is gone. -- -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:59 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) i struggle with this one, i think i prefer to buy vinyl. partly cos i love it but partly cos of the whole package (i prefer cds to downloads too). hats off to marsel for the 256k mp3s tho (but like ken i'd prefer full fat) robin... Odeluga, Ken wrote: So they do Martin. I hadn't caught up with them yet. Need to bookmark. It's a positive trend. (Even though fundamentally I of course I prefer uncompressed audio - especially 'live'!)
(313) Does anyone have John Arnolds email address?
I know he pops up on the list! I dont sem to have his email address anywhere though, does anyone have it? don't worry, I'm not a stalker. p.s. I seem to be having email trouble. if people have sent me email and I haven't replied it seems that I havent got them. it appears theres no bouncing message either? ugh. apologies. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Toronto’s only free outdoor electroni c music festival returns.....
Looks quite promising July 8th 10th These are a few of the names I recognized, also, check out the film section. There's a screening of Moog http://www.harbourfrontcentre.com/summerfestivals/bbc.php Scan 7 / Posatronix (Detroit) Platinum Pied Pipers (Detroit) DJ Sara Scruton (Detroit) Jeff Milligan aka Algorithm (Toronto)
(313) i had a dream...
..the other night where i was at a house party in london (ie. a party in a house) - even though the house was one of those swank central rome ones - with all you 313 people. i remember wandering around anonymously trying to recognise who was who. the only one i did recognise was tristan although in the dream he had gained much weight ;) ps: yes, im very bored at work np: richard h kirk - virtual state fab. CITYMORB MUSIC www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED] next release: CTM001 Receptor - Moving Head ep.
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
i have been checking the netlable scene for around over a year as well, mainly because i have several friends that release on them. which are your favourite labels and artists? i have been downloading from the obvious ones (thinner, textone etc) but there are so many these days you can get totally lost. i see it a see it as a completely parallel universe. but i do think that some labels release more or less the same sounding stuff, that diversity is still not a characteristic to netmusic. hopefully this will change as the scene matures. on a side note, dubplatesmastering in berlin now offer mp3 mastering, due to increasing demand, and so does twerk's mastering service. btw...313s own dennis desantis (hi dennis ;) has released some great stuff on thinner. fab. - Original Message - From: Global Warming ?! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:06 PM Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? robin wrote: this does raise the larger issue of: would you switch to buying digital downloads instead of vinyl? (assume you have the means to dj them digitally) I've been collecting MP3's off the free net labels for 10 months. I will never buy vinyl again, I might buy a CD. There are artists who I have collected from net labels who I would pay for, if their new releases were available only from pay sites. I would prefer higher bit rate, and would pay for higher bit rate versions of some of my favourite 'free' tracks. Personally I tend to burn my music to CD and play it using Pioneer CDJ's. I am looking at the next alternative being Final Scratch, Serato or Live 5 Digital is such a convenient method of having music for me. I much as I like vinyl it never was the gospel for me. I have no future interest in spending money on vinyl. I am not interested in packaging or objects of music. .simon -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. That's why i have embraked on the gargantuan task of ripping all my vinyl to mp3 - digital files ARE easier to use, although for me there is nothing like vinyl. the sound, the feel, the smelland the packaging. fab.
(313)* Radio Spam* - Bleep43 on Proton Radio
Anyone with a spare ear at the moment, tune into http://www.protonradio.com for a Bleep43 special. Coming up: TOBY FRITH JONNY MCINTOSH Cheers Emile
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
.. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
At 10:59 AM 6/23/2005, fab. wrote: i have been downloading from the obvious ones (thinner, textone etc) but there are so many these days you can get totally lost. i see it a see it as a completely parallel universe. but i do think that some labels release more or less the same sounding stuff, that diversity is still not a characteristic to netmusic. hopefully this will change as the scene matures. i actually got pretty sick of thinner for a while. i downloaded their entire catalog, which ended up being about 10% of my entire iTunes library. Not good for shuffling. -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
(313) bad photos of Mills in Chicago
If anyone is interested. Some funny comments on our sad stateside techno scene too. http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21657
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Bah, guess, i will add my two cents, I look at owning the vinyl as owning the next best thing to a studio master. Problem is vinyl wears out each time it is played. Digital files never wear-out, and if you dj digitally, you don't have to get an acetate made every time a remix/edit is done. Alot easier to play your exclusive tracks on a limited budget, as most of us are on. -so I have been working on digitizing my vinyl collection, but its time consuming. Most of the vinyl I am after is out-of print, some new music I would rather buy a legit mp3 if the music is recorded digitally in the first place. But for the older records which were mastered from reel-to-reel, vinyl is the only answer because one must do there own analog to digital master, and this is where modern djs have a chance to stand out from the rest, the techno-world needs more Larry Levins and Ron Hardys doing there own remixes etc. On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:02 AM, fab. wrote: Records are great, but they just don't compare to the convenience of keeping things in digital format. That's why i have embraked on the gargantuan task of ripping all my vinyl to mp3 - digital files ARE easier to use, although for me there is nothing like vinyl. the sound, the feel, the smelland the packaging. fab.
(313) Ectomorph - Chromed Out / XXX 12
Just noticed this on the Interdimensional Transmissions site. Slated for release June 31st. I'm not too sure what I think of it, yet. Doesn't seem to live up to their previous releases. Although Salvatore Principato of Liquid Liquid is featured on both tracks, which I found interesting. Listen: http://star67.com/mp3/IT21A.mp3 http://star67.com/mp3/IT21B.mp3 Thoughts?
Re: (313) Gear v. laptop
Hi, I think this is VERY true, in fact, I have gotten out all my old gear and I'm working on a new hardware live PA again - but while I gain a huge amount of energy, I definitely lose a lot of intricacy due to the limitations of the gear which pretty much forces me to do a bunch of loops. I just can't program the same amount of change and detail as I can when I DJ my finished tracks off of laptop. Still, I'm hoping that the funkiness and live energy and constant change up of patterns/songs will make up for that. I also have considered syncing my laptop to the gear and once in a while bringing finished tracks off of the laptop. Best of both worlds? ~David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the lack of variety was due partyly to them being so busy keeping all the gear under control. The atmosphere created by this mad scientist lab of gear (one of them had a dexter's lab tshirt which was very appropriate) lends itself to sweaty knob tweaking and channel cutting while trying to catch up with the sequencer as it goes from track to track. This made the tracks sound very similar and somewhat compromises the ability to intricately map out the flow of a performance over time which IMO a laptop is more suited for since the timecode and cabling is all internal and out of sight. Of course the tradeoff with the laptop is that it compromises the raw live feel you get when it seems like the machines could go haywire at any moment.
Re: (313) bad photos of Mills in Chicago
I think the funny thing is that the techno scene of whatever form in chicago was a really neglible percentage of the people there. It was mostly young, middle class whatever, but overall there was a pretty wide variety in the crowd. I don't know if its because money and organization seems like a total non-issue at these events, but they're the most comfortable and humane and plain fun things going on around here. Afterwards it was great to see Mike Dearborn joking around on the mic and a bunch of people including dj Funk up saying hi to Mills. I know Josh thinks its gonna make people go soft, but he played everything from Ben Sims to James Brown and people really did start cheering the whole time once the sun went down. On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:52:09PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is interested. Some funny comments on our sad stateside techno scene too. http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21657
(313) [Fwd: Sonar pictures]
Hi all, here are all the pics i took at Sonar http://djtioneb.free.fr/Sonar2005/ 16,17 and 18 day events also : 16 june, Tresor party @ Moog w/ special guest Jeff Mills more 17 june, Technique vs Immigrant @Zentraus w/ Funk D void, Robin Porter ... 17 june, F**k me im famous @ Discotheque w/ David Guetta (yeah i was really drunk when i got there) Ill post a review soon, i need to write it and it takes time hehhe =) cheers -- Benoît. PS : damn those filters...
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Does anyone know if Submerge might be planning on doing this with their back catalog? It seems like a no-brainer to me, and contract issues aside, it's pretty easy to set up shop. -bp the other prince of techno
(313) gil did it
and then -you- ask but 'gee why' http://nomusic.net/~gyaker/Gee_Why_presents_Four_Times_Electric.mp3 a fellow lister suppling tunes. shout outs. big ups. d Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Yeah they are, you can see the hints on: http:// www.submergerecordings.com/ But then again it is Submerge, we still have to wait and see ;) KJ On 23-jun-2005, at 22:40, Brian Prince wrote: Does anyone know if Submerge might be planning on doing this with their back catalog? It seems like a no-brainer to me, and contract issues aside, it's pretty easy to set up shop. -bp the other prince of techno
RE: (313) [Fwd: Sonar pictures]
While we're at it here are my photos. http://www.born-yesterday.co.uk/radio/bornpics/SonarBCN05_night/ http://www.born-yesterday.co.uk/radio/bornpics/SonarBCN05_day/ Please bear in mind there are a few holiday snap's amongst these as well + lots of BCN :D If you have trouble using the navigation due the picture resizing ( a problem on lower rez screens) just use the arrow keys on ya keyboard. Had a great time, really enjoyed Joris Voorn, Monoceros, Alex Attias, Jeff Mills, and the minus stage plus loads more. Going back next year I've decided. MAX www.amp-art.com -Original Message- From: Benoît Pueyo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 21:17 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) [Fwd: Sonar pictures] Hi all, here are all the pics i took at Sonar http://djtioneb.free.fr/Sonar2005/ 16,17 and 18 day events also : 16 june, Tresor party @ Moog w/ special guest Jeff Mills more 17 june, Technique vs Immigrant @Zentraus w/ Funk D void, Robin Porter ... 17 june, F**k me im famous @ Discotheque w/ David Guetta (yeah i was really drunk when i got there) Ill post a review soon, i need to write it and it takes time hehhe =) cheers -- Benoît. PS : damn those filters...
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:59:32 +0200, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have been checking the netlable scene for around over a year as well, mainly because i have several friends that release on them. which are your favourite labels and artists? My favorite 'Net label is alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.electronic ;-D - Greg (the old 'net pirate, arrr a)
(313) TitontonDuvanté?
What's he been up to lately? Any new releases? I recall seeing him play at DEMF and since I only own a few records by him I have to ask which of his records does he mix his classical instrumentation in? If I recall he played with a violinist and a operetic vocalist. MEK
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
3 dvd-r - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Wait until HD goes down :) On 23 Jun 2005, at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 13:15 it's more the fact that i can't lose it on a harddrive or just forget where i put the file etc. yeeks! one reason digital appeals to me (not that I've actually put into practice using it yet) is this is exactly what happens to my analogs! Is there no hope? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005
(313) fxhe mofo
peeps just got a copy of marcellus pittman's 'nyrobi knight' 12 ummm is this record meant to sound like this? track a2 cherry lee in particular, I mean I know some of these peeps like it dark crazy but this is just nuts. the kick drum jumps all over the shop and I really can't tell if it's a bad pressing or if it's actually meant to sound like that. anyhoo 'nyrobi knight' itself is an er interesting track and I can see it working set tho I doubt if you'd want to play it all the way through, it's just a bit too stop/start until about half way through. also got jerry the cat statements ep on psychostasia, a1 is a lovely percussive abstract groove, the fxhe comp 1 12 has a cool omar-s track that's an understated (disco?) loop with grinding fx percussion that sounds a bit industrial almost, jus-ed's track 'am mix' reminds me a little of 2nd wave stuff like 'techno 2', it's very nice. 'moment' by young seth is nice but kinda ordinary minimal - is that a Detroit escalator co. sample hmmm? philski
(313) merchandise
well axis sweatbands are all very nice I'm sure but I SWEAR that there used to be a page on the acacia website that sold acacia baby bibs and g-strings aka 'thongs' (aussies do not try this with what we refer to with this name) aka anal floss beat THAT! :^)
(313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
May I be annoying, and raise a technical point here? Digitalised music is always an approximation, so I prefer to stick with the real thing and keep my vinyl. In a decent sound system anyone can tell the difference when comparing the real thing with .wav, .mp3 or any other standard digital format... I am planning to digitalise some vinyl in 24bit/96KHz (or higher) to see if this is a better solution. Anyone had experience with this? Fab? G -- On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 08:42:14PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:39 +0200 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's why i have embraked on the gargantuan task of ripping all my vinyl to mp3 - digital files ARE easier to use, although for me there is nothing like vinyl. the sound, the feel, the smelland the packaging.
