Re: (313) Eevo Lute Newsflash january 2006 :: Terrace Live @ Model One
Thanks for the link and the recording. Out of curiosity, was this a laptop live set, or were there any hardware synths/sequencers being used? Cheers, Dave Remember, you've just been archived! The Archiver wrote: Stefan Robbers aka Terrace (Live) @ Model One The Live set can be downloaded from: http://www.eevolute.com/t.php?assetname=textid=98 or http://www.eevolute.com/ The Archiver
Re: (313) For vintage synth geeks and freaks
And while your there, pick yourself up a Voltage Controlled Tabla :) http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_tabla.cfm Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cyndustries.com/synapse/intro.cfm
Re: (313) XLR8R magazine
vmax wrote: Hard-Sync U.O.S. ;( Yep, Heather Hearts' Under One Sky (U.O.S.) was a great little zine from back in the day... Back when we didn't have the internet to do all of our work, or when I was logging in back then, it as on a 1200 baud modem so there was only so much work that you could do :) Dave
(313) Seattle - ArRange - w/Underground Resistance, Kirk Degiorgio, Oh No
Hi All, Wasn't sure if any of you knew about this. For those in Seattle, I would suggest getting your tickets tonight. The Red Bull Music Academy has been going on in Seattle for the past few weeks and having already brought Marco Passarani, Osunlade, Larry Heard and Theo Parrish/Rick Wilhite, they are topping it off with a free concert tonight with Kirk Degiorgio and Underground Resistance, but it is with a twist Oh No Kirk Degiorgio Todd Simon Underground Resistance perform their interpretations of Deodato David Matthews Clare Brent Fischer and vice versa. From: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=25436 But this extravagant demonstration (which will employ 36 classical musicians and a funk/jazz rhythm section to perform sample-based interpretations of mid- to late-20th-century compositions by contemporary producers) can easily amount to something that only sounds good in theory. This, however, is not the case. The old skool in this experiment are disco producer Deodato, jazz arranger Clare Fischer, and funk composer David Matthews; the new school are Detroit techno masters Underground Resistance, downbeat fuser Kirk Degiorgio, and hiphop wizard Oh No, who is Madlib's younger brother and Jay Dee's heir apparent. Bob Power, the producer/engineer behind one of the greatest hiphop albums of all time, A Tribe Called Quest's Midnight Marauders, is appointed to shape this massive, complex endeavor into one three-hour performance in McCaw Hall. More info here: http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/ Click on that ArRange logo for more info... Should be an interesting experience. As Seattle is only 3 hours away and the show's free, it's off to I-5 again. Cheers, Dave
Re: (313) Model 500 - Classics
I've got it, I picked it up on Double LP in 95 when it was new... It was released on R S originally Dave Andrew Jackson wrote: Rushhour has Model 500 - Classics as a 2LP release ? Was this ever released on LP ? This is the cd version for 1995 http://www.discogs.com/release/97513
(313) Wednesday: Theo Parrish and Rick Wilhite : Portland, OR
Hi All, For those in the Portland area, I just wanted to send a heads up: Renegade Rhythms and This Old House presents: Tonight, Wed Nov 30, 2005 3 Chairs': Rick Wilhite and Theo Parrish along with Tom Mitchell Location: Crystal Ballroom (Lola's Room) 1332 W. Burnside Phone: 503-225-0047 Time: 9pm Thanks... Dave
Re: (313) DJ Mag Poll
My vote is that they make bad sounding music, and if you look at the world today and in the past , most of the world really likes bad sounding music... Dave P. Lasell wrote: Why do you all think guys like Tiesto and Van Dyke are so popular? P www.peterlasell.net --- Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Magda only just made it into the list by the skin of her tea-th. Arf arf. N
Re: (313) DJ BONE.. ATTACKS - Week 11 - Live in Dublin 15 Oct 05]
Dan Bean wrote: Do you do your archiving by destructive whole-brain synapse scan, or do you use some sort of method based on quantum entanglement? On 10/19/05, The Archiver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: Dan. Consider yourself Archived! I asked for an explanation but have yet to receive one. I didn't ask to be archived. I can't tell whether it's supposed to be an honour or a diss. Dan, Unfortunately, we all asked to be archived when signed up to the 313 list : http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/ We've even archived the archiver: http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2005/10/1535217/ ;) Dave
Re: (313) mix WNUR Chicago - Tag Team: Jack the Bleep
It was definitely Mark Farina's first track, and most likely their first tag team. Network and KMS(1989) put this out before Organico(1993) knew what music was (not that they ever really found out... ) Cheers, Dave Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Symbols Instruments - Mood [Optimistic mix] (KMS) Wasn't this their (d.c., chris n. and mark f.'s) first record together or was it one on organico? I'm pretty sure this is it though. Gorgeous tunes matt and dave. Thanks again, been awhile since I said so. KKS -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:26 AM To: 313 Cc: david siska Subject: (313) mix WNUR Chicago - Tag Team: Jack the Bleep Clinically Inclined 30 September 2005:Tag Team Special: Jack the Bleep Fridays 9:30pm - 12:30am, 89.3 FM WNUR Chicago Download from http://SonicSunset.com Matt and Dave run a 3 hour tag team mix. We raid our classics crates for a tour of early UK bleep, Detroit techno and Chicago jack trax/acid. Finishes up with brand new records by Newworldaquarium, Claude Young, The Moderator and our longtime favorites Duplex! Part 1 CM Connection - Flutes (Network) Down Low - Gettin' Hot (Loop D' Loop) Hardcore Jazz - J.A.B. Traxx (Dance Mania) Future Sound of London - Calcium - Acceletator EP (Jumpin' Pumpin') Tuff Little Unit - Join the Future (Warp) Nexus 21 - Self Hypnosis [Mr Whippy Remix] (Network) Symbols Instruments - Mood [Optimistic mix] (KMS) Constant Ritual - Hardway to Come (Network) Tricky Disco - Tricky Disco (Warp) Sweet Exorcist - Testone (Warp) Musicology - Telefon 529 - Musicology (B12) Cabaret Voltaire - Sex Money Freaks [Francois K Rmx] (Virgin) Tyree - Video Crash [Crash Instrumental] (Rockin' House) Armando Presents Mike Dearborn - Sexual X-Perience [Original Mix] (Muzique) Model 500 - Wanderer (Transmat) Psyche - From Beyond (Transmat) Paperclip People - Clear and Present (Planet E) Mike Dunn - So Let It Be Houze (Westbrook) Cool House - Rock This Party Right [Tyree's Beats 4 Now mix] (Underground) Meat Beat Manifesto - Psyche Out [Version 2] (NovaMute) Royal House - Dirty Beats [Extended mix] (Idlers) Bam Bam - Give It To Me [Dub mix] (Westbrook) Part 2 Lil Louis - Frequency [Vocal] (Dance Mania) Lil Louis - Frequency [Track] (Dance Mania) Phortune - Can You Feel The Bass [Can You Groove Me] (Hotmix 5) Robert Owens - I'm Strong [Bonus Beats] (Alleviated) Phortune - Can You Feel The Bass [House Mix] (Hotmix 5) Farley Jackmaster Funk - Farley Knows House - Funkin With The Drums Again (Trax) House Gang - Workin' My Body [House mix] (Underground) Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jack'N The House - Funkin With The Drums Again (Trax) Neil Howard - To Be Or Not To Be [Gathering Club mix] (Future Sound) Shake - My Name Is Binky (Metroplex) Daniel Bell - Beyond and Back - New Horizons (Seventh City) The Chicago Connection - Dancin' [Mark Grant's mix] (Cajual) Stephanie Mills - Put Your Body In It Circulation - Dubba - Daylite EP (E3) Duplex - Sunbeam (Frantic Flowers) The Moderator - Consolidated - Reversed Evolution (Eevo Lute) Deepside - Heart of Space - Deepside EP (FNAC) D5 - Flotation Tank - Planet Delsin EP (Delsin) Claude Young - Winston Sleeps - one.nine.eight.four (cynet) Newworldaquarium - The Games That We Play (New Religion) Ruxpin - Formations - Midnight Drive (Electrolux) Schizophrenia - Schizophrenia - Tresor 3 (Tresor) Audio archives at http://SonicSunset.com --- Mixed live on air, 89.3 FM in Chicago every Friday night.
Re: (313) Record Time
Steward, Tim wrote: Not to be confused, Recordtime still sells vinyl They only moved the vinyl out of the dance room Into the main room.(There was always vinyl in the Main room, just not dance music). But also don't be confused that Mike Huckaby will NOT be the one ordering... so it's great that they have vinyl, let's just hope they have the vinyl that we want. Tower Records has vinyl too... but it's not the vinyl that I want to buy... Dave
Re: (313) Nice find of the weekend
I have Likemind 01 and it's a classic record. I believe that most of the Likemind records are limited to 500 (though I could be wrong, UK people speak up!) and I had thought the label owner left the UK to Nepal or Tibet for spiritual awakening... I just checked the archives and there's a Wealth of info on Likemind: http://elists.resynthesize.com/search.php?list=313q=Likemindsubmit=go According to this post, Lance indicated that he is rumoured to have moved to Tibet: http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/1998/10/25771/ Likemind was owned operated by Paul Smith aka Nuron/Fugue. I was told by a UK friend that several years ago Paul decided to give up music and moved to Tibet to be a monk or something crazy like that. Regardless, neither he nor Likemind has done anything since. Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: was digging around the used bins and found Likemind 03 http://www.discogs.com/release/6140 for $2.00 what gets me is the mad prices these records go for now - were they limited or do they just not show up in shops that much (people hanging on to them?) I'm surprised that Goldmine hasn't caught on to the fact that techno records are trading hands for insane prices now and they've become collectors items most dance 12 are pretty banged up but that would mean that a mint copy would be worth so much more I suppose that the world of the record collector still belongs to the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan crowd eh? MEK
Re: (313) iridite #5
Unfortunately, it doesn't usually go with who sampled them first, but the first(and every) recording that the artists hears. So if for example, he went into Submerge and ran across the Iridite record, and they did NOT have the KDJ and Steve Bug in stock, guess who would be getting sued. The person who's record he did get... Dave robin wrote: i'd imagine kdj is in for his ass-kicking first. in any case that sample's been used before by (i think) steve bug as superlova (tho i may have remembered that one wrong)so even he is ahead of you JB :) robin... Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Yeah, prince is notoriously hard a$$ed about people sampling his stuff. Like he'll hunt you...or so I hear.
Re: (313) Administrativa: Plain Text
Kent Williams wrote: Remember to always send your 313 messages plain text only. And remember not to cuss -- in american english anyway. One of _my_ messages bounced because of obscentity last week, but I discovered that it wasn't in the message I typed, but in the DomainKey-Signature field in the message header. There is some sort of encrypted signature in that field, and it just happened to include f**k in it. Weird. If you A) know for a fact you're sending plain text and B) not cursing and C) are actually subscribed to 313, and you send a message that doesn't go through, drop me a line. I'm no EZMLM expert but I can sift through the bounces and figure out why. Kent, you might want to add D) know that you are sending from the account address that you are subscribed to. (which can be more common now with multiple accounts). Dave
Re: (313) May's Mojo - where it gone?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I understand, Derrick is more interested in representing techno through DJing the music around the world than making music. I think he wants to concentrate on creativity in that sphere rather than making music, which he doesn't relly see as his role anymore. sounds fair enough to me, we weren't holding gun to his head or owt. still, a shame I say. Sounds like a great excuse for me.
Re: (313) May's Mojo - where it gone?
Odeluga, Ken wrote: I seem to remember in that very good article on Techno Tourist last year (?) he said it was legal issues which prevented him from releasing stuff until they're resolved. I could believe that, but I do wonder if they're other issues. I guess he's never heard of a psuedonym, sounds like more excuses to me Dave
Re: (313) Blaze in London
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that's what they're doing here in Minneapolis as well Kevin DJs while Josh plays the keys over the top MEK Well, let's hope that they aren't billing it as a Live show, as that would be annoyingly wrong! 99% record, 1% live... ouch! I would love to see this show, but I feel it would be mislabled if it was indicated that it was a live show. Dave
Re: (313) Old school acid track ID
Armando - Confusion's Revenge ... :) http://www.discogs.com/release/2355 Cheers, Dave Filip Sneppe wrote: Hi, (my first post to this list) I am looking for the artist/trackname that is behind an old acid track. I am guessing that the track must be at least 10-12 years old, but more likely from around '88/'89, as I've come across it on retro DJ mixes with other tracks from that era. The first part of the song has some pitched-up vocals on it that go like this: We searched the world over, looking for a sound a sound that ran deep, deep underground, finally we found it, ending our quest, a sound that jacked the house to its best. Our search then continued, looking for a name, a name that would claim all sorts of fame, Finally we found it, ending our search, a name that proved to us that it could really work. We called the sound acid, a name that came to be, a member in full of the house family, so as we go on, jackin' to the groove, we continue with the sound that makes your body move. ACID ACID ACID Let's jack the house. Then the rest of the track is just some cool 303 melody going berzerk. I could only find one reference about this via google, and it's of someone else asking for a track ID, like me: (google cache) http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:HIJtEN2wrs8J:www.rhythmism.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D6606+%22we+searched+the+world+over%22+looking+for+a+soundhl=en Does anyone know the name of the track I am talking about ? Thanks in advance, Filip
Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shouldn't KMS be marketing the hoover - after all Kevin did invent it or are you saying that Metroplex sucks? ;) Kevin definitely did NOT invent the hoover. Talk to Roland. Who ever programmed that patch on the Alpha Juno series, is the one that invented it. Kevin's the one that made it famous initially but it definitely existed before Kevin got it. Cheers, Dave
Re: FW: (313) Digital Rights
So Alex you could load some vinyl on to your laptop and go round a friend's party and play them and get arrested! It's all very well saying well they can arrest me if they like but it doesn't matter to me because I know I'm in the moral right but you're not going to be too happy when you've been fined $1.4 zillion and your life's f**ked are you? Hi Francis, This is correct, but many people also forget that even if you take out the laptop from it, the same applies for a DJ who shows up with his crate of records. It specifically says on the records themselves that no unauthorised performances are allowd. The law doesn't care if you do it via laptop or record. Either the DJ or the Performance venue should be paying Performance fees. Fun Laws :) Dave
Re: FW: (313) Digital Rights
So Alex you could load some vinyl on to your laptop and go round a friend's party and play them and get arrested! It's all very well saying well they can arrest me if they like but it doesn't matter to me because I know I'm in the moral right but you're not going to be too happy when you've been fined $1.4 zillion and your life's f**ked are you? Hi Francis, This is correct, but many people also forget that even if you take out the laptop from it, the same applies for a DJ who shows up with his crate of records. It specifically says on the records themselves that no unauthorised performances are allowd. The law doesn't care if you do it via laptop or record. Either the DJ or the Performance venue should be paying Performance fees. Fun Laws :) Dave
Re: FW: (313) Digital Rights
It would be up to the copyright holders to police this. Or the RIAA which tends to like to act on behalf of the copyright owners. But at least out here in Portland, OR, it hasn't been unheard of ASCAP BMI contacting nightclubs, and verifying permissions to play public performances of published works. I haven't heard of any specific dj's being contacted, but definitely nightclubs. Dave
Re: (313) Martins Bag
do you have any more info on this one tom, I don't have it, is it available still? this one? http://www.discogs.com/release/10559 never seen or heard of this, but the label has em still in stock (hmm wonder if they ship over here?) http://www.shopsolid.com/cgi-bin/order.cgi?store=vivaproduct=vv9804detail=yes robin... Hi Robin, Viva is a House label based out of Seattle Washington, about 3 hours from where I'm at. The Rick Wade one is really one of the only one on the label that I like, but it's a good one. I think I might have 2 copies if the Viva shop doesn't ship over there. Dave
Re: (313) podcasting
what i don't understand is, doesn't this mean that if you do a podcast you're wide open for the RIAA/BPI to come in a take you to the cleaners? Podcasting is covered by the same copyright/publishing laws that are any other medium is covered. So if you have payed your licenses, you have nothing to worry about. If you're a live musician and this is YOUR work, you have nothing to worry about. If giving away other peoples music for free (which is what podcasting does) and have NOT payed the correct licenses if the music isn't your own work, then yes they can take you to cleaners. And the law doesn't care if you are making money or not. It's the actual giving away the music that is what breaks the law. But there are other copyrights out there: http://creativecommons.org/ That allow other options. Dave
Re: FW: (313) Digital Rights
I'd be very curious if anyone knows of any alternatives that may be viable or moving in that direction? I may start a music publishing company and indie record label at some point, so this is really important to me! Hi David, Have you looked at the Creative Commons licensing? http://creativecommons.org/audio/ Dave
RE: (313) URGENT. Label people/Musicians
Everyone's on there - Ghostly, M_nus, Plus 8even R.E.M. and R. Kelly (and since when are they underground artists?). Yep.. .Mike Huckaby and KDJ ... One thing that's strange, none of the labels are actually listed, only listed as N/A. Hmmm.. why put the people who are going to Sue you on the website up! It seems like they aren't actually selling anything right now, just gathering want lists? They are selling stuff right now. You have to register (I used a fake email address). There's a Buy button next to the MP3's. If you click that, it will have you login. If you try to buy something, it says that you have NO money in your account. Then you can go to Your Account and buy a $20 Money Card: When you buy Cash Card you put certain amount of money on your JetGroove account in advance. So when you make purchase, your JetGroove account gets credited the necessary amount. Cash card has no expiration date, so you can put as much money on it as you'd like and spend it as long as you need. Then it asks for my credit card info. I'd say that they are selling it. Dave
Re: (313) Underated Producers
just tried to find your website via google. it says this: Hi Alex, Mike had a direct link to the site below his name in the email he sent you, but I looked into it this morning. It looks like the Vhosts file that our ISP is using, reverted back to a test config. It's been removed, so that the method you got to the site,shows the proper site. If you're still curious: http://www.RenegadeRhythms.com As Mike said, the sites in the process of being revamped but at least our history back to 99 you can check out, for our history back to 88, you'll have to wait for the new site. Cheers... Dave
Re: (313) Underated Producers
And if you guys from Renegade Rhythm come back with a story like well, me and the advent were having tea and scones and they say Carl Cox is alright, I'm gonna scream. Alex, 1. What's your problem with Tea. I thought the British like Tea. I'm personally a coffee drinker, but I don't personally have any problem with Tea. What's yours? 2. So how many guys from Renegade Rhythms have you been speaking to on this subject? From my count , it was only 1 person. So where does the plurality come in? 3. Just curious, because your' statement above didn't make sense to me. Actually, I think it's a common Logical Fallacy that you are displaying. A+B=E C+D=E Therefore C+B=E Here's how it plays out: Mani + Carl Cox = Like RenegadeRhythms + Mani = Like therefore Renegade Rhythms + Carl Cox = Like This is called the Fallacy of False Analogy. In an analogy, two objects (or events), A and B are shown to be similar. Then it is argued that since A has property P, so also B must have property P. An analogy fails when the two objects, A and B, are different in a way which affects whether they both have property P. Unfortunately Logic doesn't work that way. And the resulting statement is FALSE. If Advent likes Carl Cox (not saying that he does, that was the Alex's words), that's his perogative. It's not going to stop my ears from hurting when I hear Carl's music and mixing. So go ahead and scream, but I've felt nothing from Carl Cox for over 10-12 years (as long as I've known about him). If continue with your logic, I might as well end, that you are British. The British likes the Spice Girls. Therefore you like the Spice Girls. Doesn't make sense does it? Cheers Dave
Re: (313) techno isn't selling
I keep hearing this from people - artists, record labels, record stores, etc. but is there any source for stats? I'd like to see some numbers compared from year to year about the drop in sales of DJ vinyl to back up what people are saying. Not that I do or do not believe them, I just would like to know if any group has tracked the sales figures either in a specific country or globally. any DJ trade magazines cover this? Hi Michael, I really don't think these statistics are available. In the US, these are kept by the RIAA (http://www.riaa.org) and internationally it is keptby International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (http://www.ifpi.org). But they don't break it down into Genre's. And I'm sure that you're average small mom and pop record store isn't reporting their sales to the RIAA. So you have a breakdown. The only people that really know in the Techno world are the artists, record labels, distributors, and record stores that are seeing that they aren't selling as much now as what they were. If I'm wrong, please point me to these statistics, as I and many other people would love to see the break down of Dance Music sales over the last 10 years. Cheers... Dave
RE: (313) Narodniki - The laptop supergroup
I'm really hoping something similar happens at Mutek next year. Not even necessarily all those same artists, even just the concept would be interesting to watch unfold. And when I showed that picture to my boyfriend, he said That looks like Hollywood Squares!. Not sure if you were aware or not, but Narod Niki DID play at Mutek THIS last year, so I'm sure that they'll probably be their next year. I've never been to Mutek, but I'm getting the info from Ableton's site: http://www.ableton.com/index.php?main=eventssub=narod_niki NAROD NIKI is a collaboration project founded by Ricardo Villalobos that was presented for the first time at last year´s MUTEK Festival. The idea of the project is to bring together a number of techno masterminds to do a live jam, hiding their identities behind a collective alias to keep the attention dedicated to the music ... The exact lineup will, of course, remain secret. Even so, it should be quite obvious that the list of artists at this event can be nothing but long and extraordinary!! So, it wouldn't be the exact same line up, but something as good. *** Now what I'd like to see personally is not a 20 guys standing behind laptops. That's about as exciting as 1 Guy sitting behind a laptop. I'd like to see 20 Skilled musicians/patchers with their Modulars and Step Sequencers, and them just going at it. Patching like wildmen. Dave
Re: (313) Record pressing in USA
Well, we've had phonetics today, and now I'm moving over to the world of economics. Quick Q for you: Where do you small indie record label men get your records pressed over there? How much is it for say, 500 or 1000, and a 2 colour label? Is it worthwhile a euro label getting their records pressed in America, as the dollar is so weak against the pound and euro at the moment? Considering £100 can be the difference between losing/breaking even and making a profit at the mo, do you think it's worth looking into? Hi Alex, My comments are this are this: SHIPPING SHIPPING SHIPPING Any money that you might make in the current exchange, you're going to lose out with shipping. Records are not light. The only way I see this as being economically feasible, is if you were planning on selling all of these in the US and were going to ship directly from Factory to distributor. Cheers... Dave
Re: (313) Record pressing in USA
However, there must be a relatively cheap way, as all those tight a** record dealers I know get entire collections and half of warehouses shipped back. And there's no way they're paying top dollar. I should ask. Hi Alex, Shipping by the Pallet is what makes things much cheaper when shipping overseas. Unfortunately 500-1000 records won't fill a pallet. Dave
Re: (313) Record pressing in USA
However, there must be a relatively cheap way, as all those tight a** record dealers I know get entire collections and half of warehouses shipped back. And there's no way they're paying top dollar. I should ask. Hi Alex, Shipping by the Pallet is what makes things much cheaper when shipping overseas. Unfortunately 500-1000 records won't fill a pallet. Dave
Re: (313) Re: EAR techno declaration of an EU boycott and an END TO EUROPEANinsourcing of TECHNO MUSIC
Hi Alex, I know that this whole thread got you all steamed but I wanted to point out quickly in case you didn't know, that you shouldn't be cc'ing private emails to the 313 list. Wasn't sure if you were aware of that rule or not. From: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/index2.html Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Arguments belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313, check your 'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending out email - it may save you more embarassment than you thought possible. Dave Dear Mani. I read your email with interest. Unfortunately I find it a little mis-guided. But, just to get this straight, we are to boycott all European artists bar Steve Rachmad and Cisco Ferrara? It's just I need to know as I'm off to the record shop at lunchtime and wanted to pick up a few of the latest european hotties, but obviously I don't want to literally take the beans off the american artists kid's toast. Please advise. Alex
Re: (313) Re: EAR techno declaration of an EU boycott and an END TO EUROPEANinsourcing of TECHNO MUSIC
David, I don't believe that this is the spirit of the rule. Obviously reposting something you wrote does not violate any copyright (you may distribute your own works however you please) nor is it really unethical (since you obviously didn't intend to keep it confidential). -- Hi Matt, I guess you're right, though I personally don't think that you should cc any email to 313 that you are actually emailing somebody privately, but I do agree, after re-reading the rule, that it is not explicitly against the policy, though it does state: Arguments belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313. Cheers... Dave
Re: (313) May Saunderson Win Awards
derrick and kevin can get all the awards and alcolaides they can fit on their shelves. that doesn't change the fact that there's only a 50/50 chance of them filling any club they decide to play in detroit (or the whole country for that matter). they still have to travel overseas to earn a living. so i don't see how 'acclaim' transfers into anything else, like sucess or stability. Acclaim doesn't tranfer to success or stability. And end result of acclaim can be success , but acclaim itself has nothing to do with success or stability. Here's the definition of acclaim: 1 : APPLAUD, PRAISE 2 : to declare by acclamation intransitive senses : to shout praise or applause You can be acclaimed by 1 person, or 5 million people. I do acclaim Kevin and Derrick, it's just that I also acclaim all the other hard working people who have sacrificed quite a bit to ensure that we all have a little Soul in our Music. Now if only more music had SOUL! Cheers, Dave On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While techno has been embraced by the European masses since the late '80s, it's only been in the past five years that the men who most people credit as the godfathers of the music have won broad acclaim in their hometown Just out of interest, do people from detroit feel they have broad acclaim in their hometown now? _
RE: (313) Friday - Home Town Band
Hi Robert, You forgot the best ones from Leeds. Wild Planet LFO Nightmares on Wax That's how I picked up a copy of the original NOW - Dextrous demo white label when I was in Leeds last. http://www.discogs.com/release/35147 Simon Hartley from Wild Planet used to be in a band with Mark Bell before LFO and Wild Planet existed, but I can't remember the name and I don't think they ever released anything. Maybe I'll find some more GEMS next summer when I go back. Dave The only bands I can recall from my home city (Leeds) are Soft Cell, The Mekons, The Sisters Of Mercy and The Mission :( -Original Message- From: John Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 12:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Friday - Home Town Band Hrm... here in Cleveland I'd have to say Devo, they're the closest thing to techno that's come from here and been influential (yeah, they're actually from Akron, but it's close enough, mmm-kay?) There were certainly other influential artists, such as Pere Ubu The Dead Boys, but I don't think they had much impact on the techno scene. :) Every City/Town has one, but which one do you think has had the most influence on the scene we now love? From Sheffield, it has to be Cabaret Voltaire, their BBQ's and Party's influenced everyone here and for many it was the first time anyone had heard Kraftwerk on a big rig - god bless Mal and Richard. Cheers Martin # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Hey Don't knock Boring, Oregon (yes it's a real city in Oregon) unless you've been there. It's got some great swimming holes. I have to say that Model 500's Time Space Tranmat song, sounds just as good out there, as it does in the inner city :) Too me , Techno is a people thing, not a city thing or a big city thing. It's about many things, among them deprogramming the programming. People in Boring as well as Portland, Berlin, NY, Detroit, etc... need deprogramming just as much or more then those city folks. I think one should do techno(what ever do techno is to you) no matter where one is. I don't stop enjoying Techno any less up in on Mount Hood then I do in a dirty warehouse. Actually many times, I enjoy it more. Cheers... Dave That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. everyone's always eager to get to where things are hot or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Render List
Hi All,
A searchable archive of the 313 list from day 1 to present is already in
place but has not been made public. I am waiting for the list moderator
to reply back with Hyperreal's agreeance to making this public. The only
issue that might be raised at this point, is that we have removed
the email addresses from the posts, but all header information has also
been requested to be removed. I and another person on the list are in the
process of writing a script that will remove the header information(except
for subject, time and such. But this will take time to put in place, test
and get approved.
Once this has been done and approved by Hyperreal, then a cron job will
be put in place that will grab the daily archive every hour,
parse them of their email header information and then re-index.
Then one would have the ability to search, based off of time frames as
well as subject and body content.
Thanks,
Dave
I'm reading this thread and what jumps out to me as opportunity with
what's been offered ... is perhaps the ability to search. haven't we
talked about this before concerning the usability of the current archives
setup? I'm not knocking what exists ('cos it's great that it *does*
exist), just saying that maybe this could help more in the future when
someone says ... 'hey wasn't there something a few years back about
_insert techno topic here_' - and then we'd actually be able to find it
(by keyword search, and not oodles of mails around to see who's still got
it on their hard drive, etc.).
I don't think 313 should turn into a forum. I like that it's a list.
Remember Dirtylist and how that changed to a forum - just not the same.
:\
lisa
Re: (313) The Burden Brothers - getting it straight :)
Hi Michael, Where did you get the information below that Lance is taking over main productgion/performance of RNG. Just curious... I haven't seen the Mills DVD as I've been buying too much equiment that my Record budget has been a bit low if non existant lately. We havne't really heard from Lance much since he stopped being the older Submariner from Submerge. Good to hear that he's back in the game, but it's interesting that Lenny would be stepping down as the main production/performance person of RNG. Especially when I just saw a post from him on another list, talking about their recent European performances. Also, there are a lot of alias that these talented folk have recorded under, various different names on the 430west/Direct Beat labels. Here's a couple that you dont' mention: Metro D: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Metro_D Never on Sunday: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Never_On_Sunday Munchman I'm sure there's more, those are just the ones on the top of my head. BTW, RNG and Octave have a great live sets, if they appear in your part of the woods (most likely NOT if you live in the US) then make sure you catch them. One of my most memorable Live moments, was the Octave One appearance at their 10 year anniversary party at the first DEMF. To hear I Believe live, with all of their friends and family around, was worth the plane ticket alone. Much respect to 430 West! Cheers, Dave people - please help me out here and fill in the blanks (any projects, aliases, etc. that I'm missing) ___ Lance - has been working in the studio as a member of Random Noise Generation and is now taking over the main production/performance of RNG Lawrence - was/is member of Random Noise Generation and Octave One, appeared on Mills DVD Lynell - was a member of Random Noise Generation/Octave One - now doing ? Lenny - was/is member of Random Noise Generation/Octave One, appeared on Mills DVD Lorne - took over Lynell's spot in Octave One - still doing Octave One or ?, also ecords under the name Kaotic Spacial Rhythms ___ my head hurts MEK
Re: (313) The Burden Brothers - getting it straight :)
Hi Michael, Where did you get the information below that Lance is taking over main productgion/performance of RNG. Just curious... I haven't seen the Mills DVD as I've been buying too much equiment that my Record budget has been a bit low if non existant lately. We havne't really heard from Lance much since he stopped being the older Submariner from Submerge. Good to hear that he's back in the game, but it's interesting that Lenny would be stepping down as the main production/performance person of RNG. Especially when I just saw a post from him on another list, talking about their recent European performances. Also, there are a lot of alias that these talented folk have recorded under, various different names on the 430west/Direct Beat labels. Here's a couple that you dont' mention: Metro D: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Metro_D Never on Sunday: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Never_On_Sunday Munchman I'm sure there's more, those are just the ones on the top of my head. BTW, RNG and Octave have a great live sets, if they appear in your part of the woods (most likely NOT if you live in the US) then make sure you catch them. One of my most memorable Live moments, was the Octave One appearance at their 10 year anniversary party at the first DEMF. To hear I Believe live, with all of their friends and family around, was worth the plane ticket alone. Much respect to 430 West! Cheers, Dave people - please help me out here and fill in the blanks (any projects, aliases, etc. that I'm missing) ___ Lance - has been working in the studio as a member of Random Noise Generation and is now taking over the main production/performance of RNG Lawrence - was/is member of Random Noise Generation and Octave One, appeared on Mills DVD Lynell - was a member of Random Noise Generation/Octave One - now doing ? Lenny - was/is member of Random Noise Generation/Octave One, appeared on Mills DVD Lorne - took over Lynell's spot in Octave One - still doing Octave One or ?, also ecords under the name Kaotic Spacial Rhythms ___ my head hurts MEK
Re: (313) Mike Bank blurb in Urb
Maybe we're dealing with a bunch of ignorant WMC Trance heads, who see a anybody with a face mask as being Mike Banks. My guess is that they were seeing this: http://www.buymusichere.net/rel/v2_viewupc.php?storenr=59upc=0120203 But since their is a Scan 7 one, I wouldn't doubt that their is a Mike Banks one, but I definetly haven't seen anything about it. Dave I'm not sure if this was a joke on the part of the writer but this morning I was reading an article in Urb about the WMC and M3 and apparently among the three hottest items being given away was a Mad Mike Banks bobblehead doll wtf?! MEK
RE: (313) new theo parrish/rotating assembly album/movement cd
Well, you have to remember, that with every Copyright violation that Theo makes with Ugly Edits, he's risking $100,000 - $250,000 fine's per infraction from the RIAA, so in reality, he's not charging enough to cover his butt, as I doubt he's paying royalties on these. Cheers Dave he could probs do it for that cos of the price he charged for the ugly edits :) robin... - just curious what people are paying for the triple pack vinyl. - email me privately if you wish. - - they're £17.99 here. - - which is pretty ok really, he must be losing a little cash - on that, as it's - three 12's, in three different sleeves which could have been - sold for £8.49 - each, so I was pleasantly surprised - could have been alot worse. - - so - has anyone heard the movement cd? - - just wondering about the unreleased tracks - anyone heard - any of those? - alex
RE: (313) new theo parrish/rotating assembly album/movement cd
Hi Ryan, You are right, that it is his choice to do them, but just like other illegal activities, they generally have a higher price to them. It doesn't cost very much to grow pot, but have you looked at how much street prices? Just a fact of life, Illegal Items generally cost more. Dave It's his choice to do them though- and any risks he takes shouldn't be passed on to his incredibly loyal customers, in any way, IMO.
Re: (313) new theo parrish/rotating assembly album/movement cd
Hi Robin, The only problem with that, is that one doesn't have a right as consumer of illegal substances, at least in America. Once can't take a drug dealer or a seller of stolen items to court, becuase of laws saying that Judges will only rule Legal activities. In fact, at least in America, it is just as illegal to own a bootleg as it is to put it out, so you don't have any rights. Cheers Dave so it could be argued that whatever he gets back off, say, 1500 copies of UGE5 is a drop in the ocean compared to the figures below... i was only having a light hearted pop tho, my right as a consumer of these things i guess :) robin...
Re: (313) Unauthorized edits
Hi Kent, I think your understanding is incorrect (I've been wrong in the
past before though... ;).
I wasn't able to get directly to the RIAA's website, because it appears to
be down, must be anther of the DOA attacks that have been going against
their websites. I ended up having to resort to the Wayback Machine
at http://www.archive.org to get an older display of their pages.
From my understanding, it doesn't matter whether you profit from the
record or not (one can't give away illegal items in America besides
selling them)
that you are liable for breaking the Copyright laws.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020924131524/www.riaa.org/Copyright-Laws-2.cfm
U.S. Copyright Law {Title 17 U.S.C. Section 101 et seq., Title 18 U.S.C.
Section 2319}
Federal law protects copyright owners from the unauthorized reproduction,
adaptation, performance, display or distribution of copyright protected
works. Penalties for copyright infringement differ in civil and criminal
cases. Civil remedies are generally available for any act of infringement
without regard to the intention or knowledge of the defendant, or harm to
the copyright owner. Criminal penalties are available for intentional acts
undertaken for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial
gain. Private financial gain includes the possibility of financial loss
to the copyright holder as well as traditional gain by the defendant.
Where the infringing activity is for commercial advantage or private
financial gain, sound recording infringements can be punishable by up to
five years in prison and $250,000 in fines. Repeat offenders can be
imprisoned for up to 10 years. Violators can also be held civilly liable
for actual damages, lost profits, or statutory damages up to $150,000 per
work.
The Federal Anti-Bootleg Statute {18 USC 2319A} prohibits the unauthorized
recording, manufacture, distribution, or trafficking in sound recordings
or videos of artists' live musical performances. Violators can be punished
with up to 5 years in prison and $250,000 in fines.
With that said, let's hope that Theo doesn't get 5 years
Cheers, Dave
I don't think this is technically correct. My understanding is that if you
sample a work without authorization, the copyright holder can seize any
profits from the sale of your infringing work, and destroy any remaining
unsold stock.
On records that are limited editions of 500, given the cost of cutting,
plating, and pressing, your maximum profit would only be 500 to 1000
dollars.
The RIAA's lawyers don't get out of bed and their their morning piss for
$1000, so I sincerely doubt anyone's going to sue Theo any time soon.
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, David Bate wrote:
Well, you have to remember, that with every Copyright violation that
Theo
makes with Ugly Edits, he's risking $100,000 - $250,000 fine's per
infraction from the RIAA, so in reality, he's not charging enough to
cover
his butt, as I doubt he's paying royalties on these.
Re: (313) new theo parrish/rotating assembly album/movement cd
Hi Martin, I can't speak for England or the rest of the World, but in America they are both criminally illegal, which was the commonality. So the point, I was trying to elicit, is that when most people do illegal activities, they generally will charge a higher price so that they can put money way for a legal defense, if they get caught doing that illegal activity (or to at least make it worthwile for them to take the risk). So it was more of a statement on blackmarket trading, which both Growing/Selling Pot and Manufacturing/Selling Bootlegs are a part of, at least in America where Theo is doing this from. Cheers, Dave Growing pot is hardly the same as taking someone else work tho is it... 7/4/04 5:05 PM David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ryan, You are right, that it is his choice to do them, but just like other illegal activities, they generally have a higher price to them. It doesn't cost very much to grow pot, but have you looked at how much street prices? Just a fact of life, Illegal Items generally cost more. Dave It's his choice to do them though- and any risks he takes shouldn't be passed on to his incredibly loyal customers, in any way, IMO.
Re: (313) 313 Archive help (was Things)
The archives are in gzip format, which is a GNU compression program. Stuffit Expander is supposed to be able to handle gzip format, and they make a version for Mac and Windows, so you should be fine which ever platform they are on. I've decompressed them all and placed them on a directory on our Renegade Rhythms.com website, but can't publish them until I get the OK from George Smiley, as Hyperreal's Copyright policy is that I need to get permission from all of the posters or if I get permission from the operator of 313, which is George. Just sent an email off to him to see if it's alright to publish the location. It's just html for each month, until I add search engine, which shouldn't take too long. Only problem that I see coming up, is that the archives contain the email addresses of all the posters, so it's possible that my having them in html or txt format, that misbehaved robots can grab the address's and use them in spams'. If somebody has a good way to grep out the email address' from the original emails, then that would probably be better. I'll reply back to this thread, if I ever hear back from George. Thanks, Dave Good question - I was trying to look at the archives a week ago but what came up was a bunch of garble I think they are in some compressed zip format and you need what ever software to open it (not the standard zips afaik) I recall being able to view them on my PC no problem but now that I'm on a Mac at work I can't get into them the instructions for getting the Mac version of what ever compression software was a bit cryptic to me and I gave up and yes - they are on Hyperreal - go to the same place you find the info on the 313list and they have the archive it's noted that they are supposed to be working on an HYML version but how long has that been in progress? With all the talk about how the list used to be I wanted to go back again and read some of the first years but wasn't able to view them. sadly. any help? MEK
(313) [EVT][PDX] Mar 23 : The Advent, Mani Miglani , Murat in Portland
Hello All, For those of you on the west coast. We've got a treat for you in Portland on Tuesday if you can make it. This Tuesday March 23, Renegade Rhythms brings you The Advent (Live PA) Kombination Research, EAR - UK Mani Miglani (Live PA) Obs,EAR - Chicago Murat (3 Turntables) Data Records, Hijacked Records, Elphanthaus - LA/NJ Dlyte - Renegade Rhythms - Portland event starts at 10pm at the 1201 This will be a 21 and over event 1201 SW 12th Street, Portland, OR - 503-255-1201 It's been 10 months since The Advent was in Portland, right before the Movement festival, and it was an night not to be missed, and Im sure that Tuesday will be the same. Also playing live will be Chicago's Man Miglani. For those who misses the rare Murat live performance a few weeks ago, the mans's back, this time djing on 3 decks. Should be a good night in Portland. *** For those wondering the 313 Relevance of this event, Cisco of The Advent has release on Detroits' Fragile records, as well as worked with Jay Denham, when he was under the Fade to Black moniker. One of Murat's best records his is limited edition of 500 release on Twonz' Hijacked Records. Cheers, Dave
Re: (313) OT: What is Hyperreal?
Hyperreal.org actually took it's name from an old Shamen song from the late 80's or early 90's. Now the Shamen most likely took it from Baudillard, but Brian Behlendorf, the guy who started hyperreal named it from their song. As for origins of Hyperreal.org, there's 2 great texts on their site that goes over the history up to today: http://hyperreal.org/info/mission.html and http://hyperreal.org/info/history.html As to how the 313 list came to live there, well, the list owner, George Smiley decided to have it listed here, as Brian offerred Hyperreal's resources to many people who needed it back in the early 90's (as he still does today), but back then, the Internet was very different then it is today, we didn't have groups.yahoo.com and such offering their services. In fact, many people on had to pay for each email they recieved, which then brought up even more posts about noise, as people were paying for their noise then ;) Glad it's just my delete button and not my bank account... Cheers, Dave The French social theorist Jean Baudrillard is responsible for theorizing the concept of the hyperreal, most notably in his book Simulacra and Silmulation. If you saw the first Matrix movie, you may have noticed that there is a fake book with this title which turns out to be a container for hiding things and not a book at all. The following is an excerpt from Baudrillard's text where he speaks about the concept of the hyperreal: By crossing into a space whose curvature is no longer that of the real, nor that of truth, the era of simulation is inaugurated by a liquidation of all referentialsworse: with their artificial resurrection in the systems of signs, a material more malleable than meaning, in that it lends itself to all systems of equivalences, to all binary oppositions, to all combinatory algebra. It is no longer a question of imitation, nor duplication, nor even parody. It is a question of substituting the signs of the real for the real, that is to say of an operation of deterring every real process via its operational double, a programmatic, metastable, perfectly descriptive machine that offers all the signs of the real and short-circuits all its vicissitudes. Never again will the real have the chance to produce itselfsuch is the vital function of the model in a system of death, or rather of anticipated resurrection, that no longer even gives the event of death a chance. A hyperreal henceforth sheltered from the imaginary and from any distinction between the real and the imaginary leaving room only for the orbital recurrence of models and for the simulated generation of differences. I don't know if Hyperreal got was influenced by Baudrillard but it seems likely. His concepts had some influence in the art world and academia for a time. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) This list Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:12:50 -0500 From: lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hehe - this leans well towards something I'm gonna post shortly. ;) but since you've posted this ... I was wondering about the origins of hyperreal.org and how the 313 list came to live there. hyperreal = more real than real? pushing/redefining 'what is real' perhaps? hmmm ... Lisa
Re: (313) Da Sampla Re: (313) no sequencers
Hi Matt, That's why another person from Portland, started discogs.com, so that us old folk who's brains are starting to have too many cobwebs, can still get information. Here's the 2 links for Da Sampla off their: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Keith_Tucker_-_Da_Sampla http://www.discogs.com/artist/Da_Sampla Hope that helps people out, Cheers, Dave On Mar 18, 2004, at 1:44 AM, FC2 Richards wrote: Shake is Da Sampla...is there more than just the Moods Grooves release out?? I think I have a Da Sampla record on M3? ...hmm the memory fades.. And the Frictional one of course. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313) Roland King
Greetings 313 People, Does anyone out there have a copy of Roland Kings' - Versatility ep (m3) for sale or trade. Been after this one for a while. Any help would be much appreciated. I can be contacted privately at the address below. thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chris, The Roland King is Mike Huckaby, and M3 was Record Time's now defunkt label, so you're best bet to track this down, might be to give Record Time a call and see if you can get a copy from Mike. I haven't seen very many in the Record Stores for the last 3-4 years... so hopefully, they might have some in the back, or Mike has some extra copies. Tell him that Dave sent you;)
Re: (313) Roland King
Greetings 313 People, Does anyone out there have a copy of Roland Kings' - Versatility ep (m3) for sale or trade. Been after this one for a while. Any help would be much appreciated. I can be contacted privately at the address below. thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chris, The Roland King is Mike Huckaby, and M3 was Record Time's now defunkt label, so you're best bet to track this down, might be to give Record Time a call and see if you can get a copy from Mike. I haven't seen very many in the Record Stores for the last 3-4 years... so hopefully, they might have some in the back, or Mike has some extra copies. Tell him that Dave sent you;)
Re: (313) what's your favorite track/album right now?
At 09:47 AM 3/9/2004, J. T. wrote: i could be wrong but i thought deepchord were based out of boston. i like a lot of deepchord stuff, but i wouldnt put it on the same level as bc/cr/etc because they are seriously lacking in the bassline department -- great dubby chords and nice beats, but missing lowend...many releases have no basslines at all. altho i guess that doesnt hurt them in the mix discogs.com shows their address as Detroit, MI Tom (my partner) and I hooked up with Deep Chord at one the DEMF's, and since we went to their apartment in the D, I would guess that they are from the D, but you never know... ;) check the archives of 313... you may find out that they are really based out of dairy farm in Wisconsin... You never know who to believe ... ! Dave
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the noise i'm seeing today is in the form of complaints regarding noise. kind of ironic, right? Ironic, but that's the way one has to do it, when one is on a self moderated list. We can't write to a moderator and have them step in, it's something that we have to ourselves. There's good and bad to a self moderated list, but it's the way that 313 has been doing it for the last 10 years. delete takes a second. let people say what they want to say. noise is an inherent part of any community, online or real life. At least for me, maybe I'm slower then some people, but delete's take more then a second for me. When I'm presented with 50-100 messages and some of them are good and some of them are bad, you have to go through the bad ones to find out which are the good ones. That's why I think Phred indicated that he only reads emails from people's who he knows, as most of the time, people aren't even talking about the subject that is on the subject line, so you think you're reading about something that you're really not. I kind of think of it as lurking SPAM. Noise is an inherent part of any community, I do agree, but we use filters to try to reduce that noise. The particular filter on this list is 313, and that's how I have attempted to reduce the noise for non 313 stuff. Unfortunately, I don't see very much stuff about Detroit Techno on this list... I know many people who have just left the list and don't want to deal with it. I've been lurking on this list since just after it started, when I was logging in with my 14.4 baud modem on my Mac Plus ( I know, I was behind the times, even then!) and the signal to noise ratio has never been so high as it has in the last year or two. Also, using the 313 as a chat room, goes against 1 of few rules that we have on here: * List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using 313 as chat room is not permitted. and here's my attempt to start a more interesting thread: lately i can't get enough of: _ (theo parrish jill scott slowly surely) Remember... please insert DETROIT related artist here ;) Have a good DETROIT day to you all ... Dave
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
I don't mind a bit of noise to be honest, if there was less chit chat do you all feel there would be more people from the D here, is that what this is about? What next - We need more one eyed lesbo women in wheelchairs :) Actually , I think what is wanted is not more people from the D here (I'm from Portland OR myself), which is quite a ways away from the D. I think what is wanted is more talk about music that is from or related to the D. Rather then what they are going to be wearing at the next club night, as I've seen in some posts... I can't say that Im the most active person on the list by any stretch, but when I do speak, I try to make it in relation to what this list is about. I also like Brendan's idea of policing as we go. If we see specific posts that are off topic to bring it up then. I guess... i've added enought noise myself to the signal, so time to filter myself... Dave
Re: (313) TG
The Survival Research Labs show that they put on in Seattle in the late 80's or early 90's (starting to fade from memory at this point), they played crazy circus music. Seemed very appropriate at the time. I definitely would NOT want that changed to be the Surgeons music. You wouldn't get the same Surreal out of this world type of experience unless they were playing 3-4 hours of straight circus tunes. Dave I recently found a used copy of the Re/Search Industrial Culture Handbook with some extremely interesting interviews including TG. Maybe if I was feeling really motivated I might scan, OCR, and email the text to the list. MAYBE. Man the interviews in that book are really great though. I always wanted to see a show with Survival Research Labs. I think it would be cool to have Surgeon doing a set in the background while things get blown into bits. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) TG Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:51:48 + From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Crikey that would take years to explain... Buy yourself a copy ov: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1901033600/qid=1078487737/sr=1-2/re f=sr_1_10_2/026-2436903-0519652 Watered down and through the eyes of a fan boy but as close as it gets... Martin 5/3/04 11:47 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com OK, I got a throbbing gristle Q, pretty basic one really. I've got a couple of Throbbing Gristle records, and quite a few Chris Cosey ones, but I know very little about them and have not read any interviews or anything. Bit ignorant really - but then thats me all over. what were they listening to to come out with ideas like that around that time? any idea? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Detroit Soul Questions
The Davina on Soul City is one of my favourite Mad Mike house tracks... hasn't left my crate for a very long time .. Dave Cyclone Wehner wrote: I recently bought the 1998 Davina CD Best Of Both Worlds on Loud and it's classy. I borrowed it back then but, while enjoying it, I didn't realise then that she had a Detroit connection. I think my fave cut is still the single So Good, which has a Mary J feel. I know she did some music with UR ages ago, but I wonder what she's doing now? I really think Loud failed Davina (and most of its small RB roster).
Re: (313) axis
I've absolutely nothing against the man making a living off of his art - more power to him, he definitely deserves it. But there's a difference between making a living and ripping off people whilst demanding their support. Hmm... I've never had Jeff come up to me and demand that I buy his music or support him. This statement is very confusing to me. If you're referring to this on the album: 'Support those who try to make a difference' That doesn't look like a demand to me, more of a request or a statement. And he also indicates that it's up to you, if you don't think that Jeff makes a difference, then don't support him... go ahead and support who YOU think tries to make a difference. Peace... Dave
RE: (313) the funky 808 drummer
Any one here actually ever programmed a 909 or 808 though? Ok.. Now we're just getting silly ;)Besides myself, I'm sure that several people on this list have programmed a 909 and/or 808, most notably Fred Giannelli among others... There are several musicians on this list but that would be a topic for a different list :)
Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels Hi Lester, just read the interview. Richie didn't indicate that he was downloading dance music from Itunes ,just that he had downloaded a bunch of things. Could be Jazz.. Dub .. anything really. Also, I believe that Apple recently met with 100 independant labels in regards to getting them involved with itunes. I don't think it's been announced which labels were the 100 that they talked with, so it may be possible that Independent labels with dance music are available now. Don't know myself, because they don't let you download vinyl yet... :) If you are an indepenent label that wishes to be on iTunes, you'll want to follow this technote: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93191 Cheers... Dave
Re: (313) Mike Grant interview online
This is the first time I've heard that Mike Big50 Grant was responsible for the Technicolor sample on Baby's Got Back, and for getting it settled out of court. What a classic twist! (especially after three years of listening to garbage on the West Coast) He's talking about Washington here, not California, right? ;) Andrew Duke's Cognition site has had a Mike Grant interview with the same info.I think the interview is from about 4-5 years ago. http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com/mikegrant.html haven't read the Technotourists interview, but he should be referrering to Seattle Washington, where Mike Grant was stationed. Remember, that there is garbage on the West Coast , and there is garbage on the East Cost, what's most important is the Garbage that you listen to! Have a good one Dave
Re: (313) Dj Bone - Nova mix
I believe that it was first released on Chicago's Future Sound records and then was subsequently licensed on Network and put on the wonderful BioRhythms compiliations. Cheers Yea i love this track too! Its Indulge, by Neal Howard, on Network Records : http://www.discogs.com/release/49580 - KiDD*e* - Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: KiDDy*RaVeR [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ThReE-oNe-ThReE 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: (313) Dj Bone - Nova mix Heres a 30min set he did on air recently : http://www.kiddyraver.com/mixs/dj_bone-novamix.ram Thanks for sharing! What is that first tune again? Might be a mad mike record that I forgot about.. sounds nice. Cheers, Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com
Re: [313] submerge.panel
From what I understand, this is a self moderated list. From the list guidelines: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ Regarding Content and Community 313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313 list members to 'self-police' 313 using the mechanisms described above. After five plus years 313 has become a community and should be thought of as such. Like any community (Detroit included) 313 is only as strong as every member makes it. In that spirit we ask you respect the following principles: Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing fodder. List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespective and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using 313 as chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing for off-topic, or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line in no way excuses you from adhering to this rule. Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity (and, yes, this has happened in past). Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Arguments belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313, check your 'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending out email - it may save you more embarassment than you thought possible. Try not to swear. More and more corporate sites are using profanity firewalls resulting in fellow 313 subscribers behind those firewalls mis :P wrote: this list desperately needs moderation - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18 LKS how would you measure this? BBP Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et cetera. uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these statistics because it's not Ah, but is the US the most technologically advanced country in the world anyway? It probably isn't you know. It's a very diverse place and as you say, inner city areas as well as remote rural backwaters aren't very technologically advanced places. Countries like Finland, Norway or Japan are arguably more technologically advanced all in all. But there aren't many metrics for measuring the technological advancement of a particular nation, in the same way as we use literacy, mortality rates, etc, to measure overall standard of living. But ultimately I don't think it impacts on techno music all in all. What stance should UR or Submerge take on this issue? Should the process of globalisation be stopped, so that records can't be exported to the rest of the world? Does techno music pose the dangerous risk of homogenising European culture? To me, techno is one of the *good* things about globalisation; on one hand, you get Starbucks, McDonalds, and other sterile forces spreading throughout the globe. But on the other hand, you get new cultural phenomena, like techno, which are not geographically specific, and allow people of diverse backgrounds and ideologies relate to one another and feel part of the greater whole. Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL
Re: [313] submerge.panel
Could you point to where I had reposted private email to 313? Also, like wise, I don't remeber replying to a private email and cc'ing 313. I believe that I replied to a posting that on the 313 list. I don't mind being held to my point, but I don't see where that is happening. I never recieved any private email. From what I read (could be wrong), replying to a public 313 posting, and including the original sender isn't against those suggestions. And as for people dropping ship, it happens all the time. I'd have to say I've unsubscribed over 20 times myself since 1995 or so. But if one wishes to participate in discussions of Detroit based music, it's worth hitting the delete button from my point of view.If I don't have time in my life to deal with some of the drama that always surrounds people who are passionate around music (and what that music is attempting to protray), then I unsubscribe. I agree ... on to Discussions on Detroit Techno but I personally, agree that this list should stay unmoderated in regards to 1 person being the end all for what can and can't be on the list. List moderation , an actual single moderator, develops more of a community spirit then a dictorship. Dave :P wrote: sorry David, BUT, from the very source you quote: Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply in private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Im not nitpicking, but if you reference a text to prove your point, I'll tend to hold you to that text pretty firmly, at least initially. so yes, 313 is unmoderated, but IMO it should be since it wanders off topic enough for people to jump ship (Mike Taylor?) of course, we could argue semantics all day long. back to detroit techno back to my cage, -Joe - Original Message - From: David Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel From what I understand, this is a self moderated list. From the list guidelines: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ Regarding Content and Community 313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313 list members to 'self-police' 313 using the mechanisms described above. After five plus years 313 has become a community and should be thought of as such. Like any community (Detroit included) 313 is only as strong as every member makes it. In that spirit we ask you respect the following principles: Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing fodder. List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespective and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using 313 as chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing for off-topic, or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line in no way excuses you from adhering to this rule. Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity (and, yes, this has happened in past). Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Arguments belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313, check your 'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending out email - it may save you more embarassment than you thought possible. Try not to swear. More and more corporate sites are using profanity firewalls resulting in fellow 313 subscribers behind those firewalls mis :P wrote: this list desperately needs moderation - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18 LKS how would you measure this? BBP Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et cetera. uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these statistics because it's not Ah, but is the US the most technologically advanced country in the world anyway? It probably isn't you know. It's a very diverse place and as you say, inner city areas as well as remote rural backwaters aren't very technologically advanced places. Countries like
[313] Streaming Webcasts for Money...
If you go to the www.electronicmusicfest.com and click on the link to StreamPod who broadcasted the DEMF. They have a statement indicating for everyone to look for Pay per View shows of the DEMF archives. And these are only from the Main Stage only... Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Spotters question
Rick Wilhite - What do you see - Soul Edge Records - (KDJ 008 is cut into the groove). Filth Music released the exact same mixes as the original KDJ/SoulEdge. Also , while I was at Record Time this weekend, they had another label that just released it. It was Apricot Records , from what I remember. Exact same mixes as the KDJ/SoulEdge Filth. They had plenty of this new release in stock. Here's the mixes: Get on up (Theo's late dub) What do you see (Ricky's groove mix) What do you see (MM mix) If you don't have a copy, I'd buy any of the version on sight. Enjoy Dave Sean Creen wrote: Or did this come out on Filth/Music is or something? (I'm sure I've got it but not on KDJ, but my records are at home) Some mixes of What Do You See definitely came out on Filth, but I'm not sure if they're the same... Sean. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Track ID
That's the point of the song I believe... to show the realities of cocaine use... Giles Dickerson wrote: Sounds horrible. That give sme chills just reading thos elyrics. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:35 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Track ID opps. should have read the lyric again before I replied. wrong record it's vitallic on gigglo I forget the track name and cat # but it could be cocaine speaking and it pretty new so you can still find in stores Vocals : This is cocaine speaking. I'll take your life from you, your car from you, your ... etc. Mark Flintoft played it last night @ Local 138 and I just heard it again on a Christian Block mix off of Frequency Detroit. -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] [EVT][Portland] Scion and Tikiman - Tonight , May 17, 2002
Hello all, I hadn't seen anyone mention this on the list. Looks like we get a nice treat of some good music , before we all fly out for the DEMF. For those in Portland, OR or Seattle, if you are fans of the sounds of the Basic Channel/Chain Reaction/Rhythm and Sound/Burial Mix crew, please check out: Tikiman Scion - Burial Mix/Chain Reaction - Berlin -- ragga MC Tikiman teams up with minimal/downtempo dub techno mainstays Scion (Germany) CNSE (live) - OMCO Portland -- Portland representing Portland's own brand of dubworthy techno, in a Klang or Perlon sort of vein! CNSE has just appeared with a 12 on Starbass (Portland) and has several more 12s forthcoming. Bliss (djing) - Renegade Rhythms - Portland -- exploring the inner dimensions of sounds. Friday, May 17th at the Blackbird (www.theblackbird.org), $7, 21+, 3728 NE Sandy Blvd 503-282-9949 hosted by Outward Music Company (www.outwardmusic.com) drop on in for what should be a great show! for more info [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Andrea Parker.
I don't know if DJ'ing is term that you can give to her. When she played in Portland , she was more worried about where her next cigarrette and beer was coming from then when to start the next record. I'm all down with Loft Style mixing but when the record runs and is in a lock groove, THATs when the next record should be starting Dave Anya Stang wrote: She's defo still DJing, saw her name a couple of times recently on line-ups for Electro nights here in London. Don't know if she's still producing tho', would be a shame if she didn't. Her album Kiss My Arp is quite something - although some people call it a bit over the top and cheesy, I like it. I really dig her DJ Kicks mix too, opens with her remix of DM's It's No Good and also includes Model 500 - Night Drive, Dopplereffekt - Cellularphone and Drexciya - Hydro Theory. A DJ Kicks I'd recommend on the DnB tip is KemistryStorm - dark dirty! Such a shame Kemistry's no longer with us. Anya - Original Message - From: Tim Maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '- BT -' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [313] laurent garnier mixed cd from react. Is she still going? Melodious Thunk (?) is one of my fav electro tunes. on 10/5/02 1:28 pm, Langsman, Marc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The andrea parker DJKicks mix is pretty decent - I seem to remeber theres a dexciya tune and some kool keith and stuff. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Detroit in LA
Here they are:
http://63.105.27.154/kennyFlyer1.jpg
http://63.105.27.154/kennyFlyer2.jpg
sean deason wrote:
speaking of Detroit in LA. that reminds me:
Kenny and Kelvin Larkin have started a new monthly residency (the first
Wednesday of each month) at a club in Santa Monica. The night is called the
music box and it's at Mix Niteclub 2810 Main Street. I tried to attach a
flyer to this post, but it seems it's not allowed on 313. I can forward the
flyer to anyone who wants to put it up on a webpage for everyone else to see.
sean deason
James Hurlbut wrote:
So exciting I had to say it twice. April 27, FAITH will be bringing
Terrence Parker, Mike Huckaby, and Rick Wade to LA Info line at
323.288.7725. Also Recloose will be in town next Sat. the 20th at Heading
Home http://www.headinghome.net/ (Yes, I know Ectomorph is playing the
same night but the theme here is detroit house). No, I'm not involved with
any of these nights, just a devoted fan gettin ready for some raw chuggin
soulful rhodes-full house music from the D. Please tell me if the LA
updates are not wanted on this list. Don't worry, you won't hurt my
feelings. I'll just have to think of some obscure hawtpants hawtin factoids
to post instead :) See ya.
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Re: [313] The committee vs. Carl Craig
Got a sponsor that can supply a Million Plus to sponsor the stage? P wrote: next year, if DEMF happens, we should see to it that there is a 313 stage -joe - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [313] The committee vs. Carl Craig - Original Message - From: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [313] The committee vs. Carl Craig In today's Freep, Dan Sicko and Carl Craig himself both raise the issue implicitly of whether the festival lineup really should be more focused on Detroit or Electronic, in the sense of encompassing the widest variety of cutting-edge high quality electronic music. I really appreciated the more experimental edge for Carl's selection approach -- for example, Afronaut last year was by itself one of the most inspired picks he made. Or pick your own favorites. I heard similar sentiments about Autechre, Titonton, and others. Clipped from the freep article here: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf13_20020413.htm The inadvertent bill, while accurately listing most of the scheduled acts, also mistakenly featured such in-demand names as DJ Shadow, Black Eyed Peas and Drexciya. That lineup was removed by midafternoon. Pop Culture spokesman Greg Bowens said he couldn't deny that the festival may be pursuing some of the artists accidentally listed. A handful of open time slots remain. Still, what may have been on a wish list yesterday is not necessarily the case today, Bowens said. I'm not complaining, but I can't help but feel we were toyed with a bit when Rob Hood and some of the other names were waived under our noses. Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DJ Magda
Jayson B. wrote: Great track selection by itself a good dj does not make. But Bad Track Selection , 100 % makes a horrible DJ Nothing worse then hearing every Record you hate, mixed to perfection, in the end , the Song still sucks and makes me leave the room. I'll pay to listen to GOOD music and Average DJ You'll have to pay me to go listen to Something that I don't want to hear.. no matter how well mixed it is. I guess I'm jaded from listening to TOO MUCH BAD MUSIC much TOO LOUD Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] questions, questions and more questions.
It's same obsession that we all have with him...
I mean ...
its the 6 Million Dollar Man!
What else is to say.. :)
jurren baars wrote:
have nothing better to do so here are a couple of things i've been wondering
about:
1. anyone know what terrence dixon's been doing lately, last thing i
remember was his album for tresor, and what is his obsession with steve
austin? if you listen to his 'bionic man ep' on background it has this
excerpt from a movie/tv-show, starring steve austin. when you listen to it
you can hear a couple of titles of releases comming by ('earth 2976', 'from
the far future') maybe a nice game, guessing the title for his next release.
('perfect unison' is my pick.)
2. just recently found a copy of 'los ninos del parque', and i know jeff
mills has sampled music from this record, but the similarities between the
artwork on this release (mine's on roadrunner, don't know if it was released
through other labels with the same artwork) and a lot of purpose maker
material is striking. is this just me looking to much into it, or was this
track extremely influential to him?
3. track id's, just when you think you've heard it all, you tune into
Wdisko.net, and you find out there's heaps of lovely tunes just waiting to
be rediscovered in the old-disco section of your local recordstore.
songs i'm looking for are all from a mix by i-f for Wdisko.net:
http://www.wdisko.net/audio/wdiskomix1.ram
- first one i should probably know... 09:30 (right after 'the lover')
- old trax/jack trax stormer... 25:08 ('phocque me, jacque me')
- beautiful strings on this italo tune... 1:01:00
this is a really nice mix, in case you haven't checked it out yet, with
tracks by: egyptian lover, machine, kraftwerk, fingers inc (distant
planet!!)and loads more.
jurren
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Re: [313] richie and dance musik?
I certainly can call it dance music. I've danced to it. I've seen other people dance to it. How else do you define dance music, other then music that one dances to. If that music is rhythmatic whitenoise, or if it's a pattern of 909 beats, it's all the same, music that makes one dance. So yes, I would say that de9 is a dance music record , plus a whole lot of other releases on Minus Not that I'm a big fan of Richie of anything, but I am a big fan of Dance Music and hate to see it so restricted so with such a defintion. Cheers Dave Jayson B. wrote: is richie dance music. i dont think thats his goal, to make you people dance. rghht. EVERYTHING he released pre-95 certainly wasn't dance music, i wouldn't consider de9 dance music, and god forbid anyone considers minus-anything dance music. You're kidding right? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] random noise generation playing live in seattle in september
It'll be good to hear the Sounds of Random Noise Generation out here in the Northwest again... See anybody in driving distance in Seatlle... Dave Phil Chan wrote: i know it's frowned on to post events here, but i figured this one was pretty relevant. http://www.danceritual.org will have more info at some stage too. p. Dance Ritual Presents ITERATION TWO 22 September 2001 Seattle WA On 18 August 2000, Tobias, Iron Monkey, Brahman and Phil Chan joined techno legend Oliver Ho (Meta/Blueprint/Surface, UK), playing to a packed warehouse in downtown Seattle at 'Beneath the Surface'. This year, we bring you another rare North American performance: RANDOM NOISE GENERATION - LIVE SET (430 West, Detroit) Lenny and Lawrence Burden are legendary figures in underground electronic music. Two of Detroit's famous Burden brothers, their labels 430 West and Direct Beat have defined electronic music since the late 80's, featuring artists such as Juan Atkins, Underground Resistance, Jay Denham and AUX88. Their debut track 'Falling in Dub' was adopted as the theme of the 1991 Love Parade, and inspired remixes by Claude Young, Terrence Parker and Westbam. In addition to Random Noise Generation, they record with brother Lynell as Octave One, a group with releases on Derrick May's Transmat label as well as the seminal Techno 2 - The Next Generation compilation. Members of Detroit techno's second wave, they have influenced electronic music as much as contemporaries Richie Hawtin, Carl Craig, Jeff Mills and Kenny Larkin. Since first performing live in 1999, as part of the Electric Entourage tour with Underground Resistance DJ Rolando, Random Noise Generation have played to packed houses around the world including Berlin's Love Parade, Fabric (UK) and the Detroit Electronic Music Festival. Please join us for a very rare and intimate performance by these true Detroit legends. Keep an eye on the streets for a limited edition audio CD-flyer promoting the event, featuring mixes from the evening's performing DJs: PHIL CHAN (Southern Outpost Records, Australia) Hailing from Sydney, Phil was introduced to electronic music in the late 80's and has been DJ'ing since 1994. His 3 deck sets incorporate techno, house, electro and duct tape. In 1999 he co-founded Southern Outpost Records, which has upcoming releases featuring DJ Godfather, Keith Tucker (AUX88) and Strand. BRAHMAN (gr0k studios, Seattle) ...the all inclusive reality, that which is comprised of the Atman (the pure self) and the Jiva (that part of the self that each of us experiences daily) - this special evening will play host to the final performance of this underground techno magician, you're invited to participate in the age-old ritual of life-death-rebirth... TOBIAS (technoWest / ST, Vancouver) Tobias has been enmeshed with musikal resistance culture since 1993, DJ'ing house and techno as well as producing music under the monikers saibot and saibotuk. DJs and produces experimental techno/house, from microsound to altered dub bangin' loops, as well as audioart/radioart material. JERRY ABSTRACT (fixelplix, Detroit / Seattle) Born into, educated in, influenced under and humbled survivor of Detroit, Michigan, Jerry started curling up inside speakers and attending underground events in 1991 while having social, personal, and universal revelations about the peacefully chaotic importance of every-one-thing. Many exhausting lessons later he moved onward, in late 1999, to Seattle, where he continues to seek out the abstract essence that inspires us all... music. _ELLIOTT (bitmethod.org, Portland) This disc-jockey uses old-fashioned vinyl records to mix the hip sounds of nujazz, broken-beat, house, dub and techno. Only for the headstrong, 160+ BPM. KRIS MOON (Division, Seattle) Kris began DJ'ing in '93 - after a 3-year stint on KUGS, college radio for Bellingham, he moved south to Seattle and sold his soul to a merciless pro audio retailer. He now slings black crack at Zion's gate and spins the hit choons for the crowd at the Ballroom in Fremont. His set for us on this night will consist of pitch-black techno and electro. IRON MONKEY aka Aron Schoppert (DanceRitual.org, Seattle) Since he started promoting underground events back in 96, his passion for dance music has always been about exploring the mind/body synergy with sound and rhythm as the working catalyst. He will be closing out the ritual; moving in and out of the deep contrasting textures of present day German techno visionaries, and some of our own US born techno innovators. --- Look who's taking off with Tenzing! http://www.tenzing.com/airbus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe,
Re: [313] UR London
Mark Hughes wrote: How do? Somebody mentioned a UR party in London, but I seem to have lost the details. I would appreciate if somebody could repost. Cheers Mark Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could you reply all , so that those of us that are heading to Europe can pencil this into our Itinerary? I was only aware of the Festival Appearance in Holland in late Aug. Thanks, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] More DJ obsessions
Corny or Classic it's all a matter of perspective ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right before I really started listening to house and techno (1987-1988) I remember getting frustrated with The Wizard a lot because he, as well as a dj on 107.5, used to play 1 particular track that I simply couldn't stand back then. Almost every one of my remaining Wizard tapes has it on there and I would debate with myself whether or not to stop the recorder when it came on. It was Derrick May's Nude Photo. I didn't like it back then 'cause it reminded me of the presets from my old Casio VL1 calculator/keyboard. It sounded corny as hell, but everyone played it to death. I tolerate it more today than back then... It still sounds corny. Another track (and my #2 all time favorite) that damned near every Detroit DJ played excessively was Pacific 0101 by 808 State. Frankie Knuckles' The Whistle Song was in every crate and at every party around 1991. I may remember others later in the day. I'm only on my first can of Whoop Ass. phuture jacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/31/2001 03:16:05 AM ok i'll give it a shot i'm not from Detroit,and i certainly was not at the Music Institute,but i heard a few tapes from both MayMills's earlier years on the WJLB radio station May first of all,the thing about may is that he used to play A LOT of his own stuff,in fact 70% on the couple of tapes i have heard,was his own! some chicago stuff too Phuture - pump up the bass,Lil Lois - Freq,Rosario - I want u,ten city etc some disco i can only clearly remember Harry Thuman - Underwater,but he did play some more diva type disco too,i just could not trainspot'em;) German Liason Dangerous -peut re pas(sp),avant apres (obviously) Gotching(sp)-e1e2 new wave visage - freq7 in general i find May style to be very similer to Ron Hardy!(good long musicalmixing,with some crossfader tricks in key) i don't know that his radio apearences were consisted of what he would play out as he obviously would have wanted to showcase his own stuff on radio. Wizard while i heard quiet a few Wizard tapes now,lets just say that they can be very good or realy boring,all depends on what you are after,usualy they consist of: 75% rap,hihop-electro Mantronix,Whodini,Globe,Utfo,Imperial Bro,Wrekin cr,Hashim,Eric b,Dynamix,RunDmc,Public Nme,Marley marl,Beasties,Spooni g,Unkown dj,Kool moe d,Heavy d Man Parish,Jj Fad,Bambata,TuffCrew,Egyptian lover,B Boys,Aleem,LLCoolJ etc etc 5% funk Paliament,Funkadelic,Princeshila E,Hancock did i say Clinton:) 5% disco Kano,Kurtis Blow,Rhythm Heritage,War,Sugerhill,, 2% pop Micheal Jackson,SaltPeper,We Papa girls,MelKim,, 5%techno No Ufo,Future,the Sound,body to the box,(mm i don't think i heard any May at all tho) 13% house Chip E,Chip e,Chip e(he must have realy loved him,usualy there would be 3-4 tracks of his in every k7),Hurley-JYB,Pierre,BnC-house aint,Hercules - 7 ways,Rosario - Amour PuertRico,adonis - no way,Bad Boy -MixTell,Hitrax-cool J Acid and other chicago stuff,as well as some uk(Pump Up The Volume,Krush - House Arrest)New York (Raze - Jack The Groove) now all this is mixed on a four track(you would hear 3 tracks playing,or 2 and a third being scratched quiet often)yet it's very raw,usualy loses momentum after a while,beat is changing constantly, i don't think he was on the same class with the NY guys when it comes to scratching(if you ever heard DST,or Marley Marl tapes you'd now what i mean), the thing that i realy wanna know is: were was the industrial side of him,i have not heard anything industrial on any of his tapes yet some were around the time he made the Final Cut stuff? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties.
www.technotourist.org/afterdemf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: I've seen a lot of afterparties advertised... Is there a list that has been put together? Thanks/Peace, dMAN./ ___ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Day 1
When did Detroit House go away in order to make a come back... been going strong for many years. Fred Heutte wrote: It's impossible to see everything, of course, so I decided to stay with what was working on Saturday. And what was working was the Motor stage out by the water, where TP, Afronaut, Fred Gianelli and K Hand put on a solid afternoon of music that just got better and better. Big shouts to the Telepathic One and Kelli for really putting on a show. I bailed around 9:30 because I was starving, and headed over to Greektown for some grub. Then commenced the afterparty circuit, starting with the Camillian Cafe (300 Monroe at Randolph) which is actually a very nice coffee place. I missed Gerald (Matrix) who played around 7, but Dwayne Jensen and Mike Clark were heating it up when I stopped in around 11. He played a white label of a new vocal track, and his singer was there but with no microphone all she could do was a lip-sync to her vocal, but she definitely put some serious diva energy into it :) It's quite cool to see Detroit house making a big comeback; I talked with D-Ha (Derwin Hall) later at the MI party, he's coming out with some new ones shortly after a long break. Then off to the Round Table Records showcase; this is a crew from Toronto that's associated with an interesting bunch of labels including Chair, 21/22 (hey Ed Luna, where were you?), Polaris and Public Transit. Saw a bit of DJing and some live stuff with a cool singer, this was all at a loft right on Gratiot. Then the UR party at the Johanson Gallery, which was pretty packed when I got there, I heard a bit of both Suburban Knight and Rolando. Finally, home, more or less, to the Music Institute reunion in a loft on W Grand River, where Alton Miller, D Wynn and D May were on the decks. I imagine all the real MI veterans were looking at the rest of us and saying, where did all these people show up from? but on the other hand this party had the best vibe of the evening. Day 1 down... Day 2 ready to go... bring your rain hat! phred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] LTJ cancels on the DEMF?
Not being a LTJ fan, its' odd that I know that he's touring the states right now and that his fans don't? From what I understand , he's in the States already, so if he's not playing , one would think its because he doesn't want to Dave Kevin Conrad wrote: A criminal record will definitely hinder entry to the US. My friends father, who's Canadian, was denied entry a few years back for writing bad checks 30 years ago. Kevin --- Paul Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been written that he canceled because he was only going to play as a favour to Carl in the first place. However, I do know that he has problems getting a work visa everytime he goes to the states due to owning a criminal record, so maybe this was causing him problems again. I just don't know. doesn't anyone know why LTJ won't be playing the DEMF now? I'm hoping some of our wonderful insiders out there will have the juice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] AREA:ONE/FORD focus Area
It is!. SFX is there to Earn Money and Paul Oakenfold is what's going to do it. Therefore, big letters. The innovators are only on their to get few extra dollars from the underground. You can't be a monopoly unless you monopolize everything, therefor the Innovators are on the bill. Dave Gil wrote: Oh god this irks me... If not for any other reason because on the line up, the two bigname tr_nce DJs get individual mention and so does another respected techno DJ. It just seems like a dis to lump them together. On Sun, 13 May 2001, The [Quad] wrote: QUESTION: When the BIG 3 are billed in this manner: The Innovators featuring: Juan Atkins, Derrick May Kevin Saunderson ... is this some sorta SupaGroup and if so, whom else is a member... i.e: who shakes tambourine, who makes-up the back-up singers..? n.p.: Sympathetic Sounds of DETROIT, J. E. v.F-B. B. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Tough decision
RNG! Jamil Ali wrote: Hey guys, If you had to choose between these two parties... what would you choose? May 11 DJ T1000 (Paradiso, Amsterdam) DJ T1000 May 11 sound architecture Detroit speci (Nighttowm, Rotterdam) Lawrence Burden a.k.a. Octave One, Random Noise Generation (live), Jochaim and Michel de Hey Jamil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF FORD COPERATE SPONSORSHIP
My last Ford was fake... well.. .at least the engine was Dave darw_n wrote: how about if they made a stage out of a fake ford focus car? 'cuz that wouldn't be keepin' it real yo! ;-] darw_n... ... :i: explore. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 313? rare Jaguar reMix - live Now ! May 4
More 313 Related - Any one want to hear Random Noise Generation's remix of the Knights of Jaguar? We're broadcasting RNG's live performance and Lawrence Burden's DJ set. An hour of each. Every two hours it repeats. If you listen you'll hear RNG's remix of the Knights of Juguar that they performed in Portland Or, March 18, 2000. Broadcast is at: http://www.RenegadeRhythms.com Dave Mark S Flintoft wrote: Sam wrote... so to help the list enter a new and exciting era of on-topic discussion, i will ask the question what is your favorite mixtape or live dj set on cd and why? 'Bout time we got back on topic!=) 313 related... Stacey Pullen's Essential Mix from 99 (?) :just a beautiful mix of House and Techno by the master... Derrick May Welcome to The Future from Paradiso (sp?) Amsterdam :lots of energy. Non 313 related... Danny Tenaglia's Global Underground Athens 2XCD :so dark, moody and perfect... Any of the Late Night Session's CDs on MOS :the perfect post-club chill out CDs. laters, m* NP - Pure Science Africa Re-HabCan you say beautiful percussion?;) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Kooky conspiracy
Hell Yeah! I'll be donating to your hat. I've always said when I'm heading to a Party just for one dj or artist (which happens alot out here), I'd rather skip paying at the door and just give my $20 to the performer. Would have done it when you played in Olympia except some big giant guy stood in front of the door indicating he was more worthy of the money then you were... I enjoyed it anyways .. See you in may... Dave Fred Giannelli wrote: All this talk about corporate takeover conspiracy is making me sick ; ( ; P If I pass around a hat during my performance will some of you put in money so I can release some new music? Telepathic regards, The Kooky Scientist Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: May 25th - Detroit Electronic Music Fest http://www.electronicmusicfest.com/lineup/index.html -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fabric - May
What and Where is Fabric? Mark Hughes wrote: Hello all Just a quick note to let people know: Fabric May: 05 May Rolando 12 May Kevin Saunderson Cari Lekebusch 26 May Stacy Pullen Just thought some people would appreciate this. See you later Mark Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf vs. woodstock
If anything was to happen at the DEMF it would have no affect on my Faith in the music as when I go home and put on Galaxy to Galaxy it's going to do the same thing to me that it always did. Move Me and Deprogram me. This music is not about the DEMF. The DEMF is about this music. Remember that Dave Samuel Hobbs wrote: i was at woodstock 99. it was a great time until that last day. until then people could pay for the $5.50 hotdog and the $8.50 bbq sandwich. then people started running out of money. then people began to realize that no one had pumped out any of the porta-johns. then people began to realize that no had picked up any trash the entire weekend. then people got pissed. i think all the trouble began with the promoters assumption that kids will pay any amount of money for basic necessities like food and water. it didn't help that korn played the first night, limp bizkit, rage, and metallica played the second night, and red hot chili peppers did a good job of riling up the crowd on the last night. IF ANYTHING LIKE THIS WERE TO HAPPEN AT DEMF I WOULD LOSE ALL FAITH IN WHAT THIS MUSIC IS ABOUT. -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
May 4 - Random Noise Generation and Octave One on this week's AutoRepeater webcast
May 4, 2001 Renegade Rhythms Radio's AutoRepeater featuring Lawrence Burden (dj) - 430 West Records - Detroit Random Noise Generation (live) - 430 West Records - Detroit This weeks' AutoRepeater will be featuring a rebroadcast of the Burden Brothers visit to the Portland, from Saturday March 18, 2000. When Lawrence and Lenny perform, they bring together a sort of primal power that can move the spirit as well as the soul. While you are listening to this week's AutoRepeater, check out the Review of the 10 Years Deep - the 430 West 10 Year Anniversary party that was help last May 27, 2000 , on one night of the First DEMF night. The reviews has pictures, expect more to be put in there by Friday's AutoRepeater start. The review can be read here: http://www.renegaderhythms.com/articles/tenyearsdeep/ RRRadio's AutoRepeater features specially commissioned shows from respected and upcoming Artists, DJ's and Producers. The AutoRepeater feed goes from 10am - 10am PST Friday to Saturday. It can be reached by going to this URL: http://www.RenegadeRhythms.com/main.html and clicking on the Live logo. Requires Real Audio 5.0 or higher (web tv friendly) http://www.RenegadeRhythms.com Exploring the Inner Dimensions of Sound Live House and Techno Broadcasts every Wed and Sat.
Re: [313] Fw: [313] Charles Webster/313
I've got a Sueno Latino remix with one side the D. May and the other being Charles Webster. How's that for tying in two threads into one. Dave Jonny McIntosh wrote: Also, Stacey Pullen did a remix of another Presence track on a Love From San Francisco doublepack which is quite tasty. That's all I can think of, though. Unless you go through some convoluted Inner City/Nail/DiY/CW process, of course. What is the connection between sometime Nottingham, UK resident Charles Webster (now the guy who does Presence) and The Belleville 3? i'm not aware of any connection. the nearest i can think of is that Webster did a remix of Hot Lizard's Big Air, as did Stacey Pullen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: [313] X-Mix tracklist = Free Herbert CD
Maybe K7 should repress X-mix 3 , just so you can get a copy of the vinyl version. It's the least they can do for not sending it to you in first place. And then I could get a copy too :) Dave Since I'm on both X-mix 2 and X-mix 3 I can help you out. Strangely enough Studio K7 never sent me a vinyl version of X-mix 3 so I can only provide the vinyl tracklist for X-mix 2 and the CD tracklist for X-mix 3. Laurent Garnier X-mix 2 Record 1 A1. Planetary Assault Systems Gated - Peace Frog A2. Galaxy 2 Galaxy Journey of the Dragons - UR B1. Mazdaratti Fingered - Telepathic a/k/a me ; P B2. Deepside French FNAC B3. Mike Dearborn Deviant Behaviour Record 2 A1. Relativity - Carl Craig's Urban Affair mix - Deep Dish A2. Rhythm is Rhythm - Icon (montage mix) - Transmat B1. Kenny Larkin Track - Warp B2. Laurent Garnier Moon Beam - FNAC Record 3 A1. UR-003 Final Frontier- UR A2. Dave Angel Original Man - Aura B1. HMC/ASIO Tropic of Capricorn - Juice B2. Essence of Nature Blue Orchidee - Harthouse John Acuaviva Mix CD tracklist 1. Sysex At First Light - Plus 8 2. Orson Karte Metamorphosis - R S 3. Erik van den Broek Ursa Major 7 - Shiver 4. Math-U-Matics Blue - Plus 8, (actually came out on Definitive I believe) 5. Scanner Mass Observation - Ash International 6. L.S.G. Fragile (Ice Age Remix) - Superstition 7. Nicole A Small Entrance to a Large Spectrum - Basic Beat Songs 8. Megalon Darkness - Plink Plonk 9. Cal-Q-Lator Dr. Bradford - MFS 10. Laurent Garnier Astral Dreams (Speakers Mix) - F Comm 11. K. Hand Flashback - Acacia 12. House Proud People Trantastic Pt. II - Cross Section 13. Speedy J Secret Cinema (mix 2) - Music Man 14. Hardfloor Roarrh - Harthouse Richie Hawtin Mix CD tracklist 1. The Acid Didj The Acid Didj Three - Telepathic(guess who? ; P 2. Speedy J Evolution - Plus 8 3. Lemon 8 Model 8 - Basic Energy 4. Barada Glue - Definitive 5. Peelo Neewa - Stickman 6. Fuse vs. LFO Loop - Warp 7. Plastikman Spastik - NovaMute 8. Plastikman Spaz - NovaMute 9. Teste The Wipe - Probe Telepathic regards, fRED on 4/28/01 2:20 PM, Tosh Cooey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the tracklists of X-Mix 2, and X-Mix 3 on vinyl that's Laurent, and Rich and John. And just to make digging through the dusty crates worth the hayfever, I'll send the people with the first verifiably correct responses a copy of the new Herbert CD, Bodily Functions. Oh the tracklist MUST include: artist, track and label info. There might be some problems with the label info since I've seen it missing on the videos. Thanks!! Tosh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: May 25th - Detroit Electronic Music Fest http://www.electronicmusicfest.com/lineup/index.html -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: Moods Grooves
I'm not a German 313'er .. just a Portlander... but the remix that Mike is doing is on International Deejay Gigilos. http://www.gigolo-records.de/ David http://www.RenegadeRhythms.com Exploring the Inner Dimensions of Sound Live House and Techno Broadcasts every Wed and Sat. - Original Message - From: xx xx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:46 am Subject: Re: [313] Re: Moods Grooves Yes this site is really usefull. You can recheck it in few days, because they have received the Moods and Grooves catalog yesterday and a big part has already been updated. In the meantime: MG-007 Various #8211; #8220;Soul: Often Imitated, Never Duplicated#8221;A1. Brian Harden - Nubian Shuffle A2. Mike Grant - Late Night B1. Alton Miller - First Light B2. Brett Dancer - Delayed Reaction. - new millennium deepness from three of the labels mainstays and Brett Dancer MG-011, Mike Grant #8211; #8220;And Then It Was My Turn#8230;#8220;A1. The Struggle Of My People A2. A beautiful Thing B1. The Struggle#8230;(Mr. G#8217;s There#8217;s Hope Mix) Out soon MG -012 Theo Parrish #8220;Segments From The Fifth Wheel#8221; And do not forget the 2 new babies of Mike Grant End to End records: with already 2 white labels which are already circulated around EE-001 Black Noise #8220; Step Into The Darkness#8221; Tracklisting : A1. Young Gifted Black B1. Smoke Mirrors B2. Smoke Mirrors (Cut Up Mix) EE-002 Scan 7#8220;Home Soil#8221; Tracklisting : A1. How #8216;Bout Me B1. Evasive Maneuvers B2. Chosen Solitude And Afro Syntrix Recordings, same the white is around. AS-001: Erotek #8220;Now Playing - In Detroit#8221; Tracklisting A1. Get Your Freq On A2. Club Mode B1. Bas2 Muf2in B2. Metro Transit B3. Riffs Of Jazz Mike is also doing some remix for a German label, maybe the German 313er on the list can say more ??? and a Chari Vari one too. Who says that Detroit spends time snoring? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Gerbasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: Moods Grooves Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:13:41 GMT Here's an almost complete discography: http://www.discogs.com/label/Moods_+_Grooves Matthew Gerbasi writes: Does Mike have a website or a full discography anywhere??? thanks matthew Matthew Gerbasi |l| Darcy Detroit lll Cadillac Regional Traffic|l| 248-458-8567|l| [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eliminate your ego by having self confidence without pride -- Basi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Moods Grooves
Mike's Website is http://www.moodsandgrooves.com which is currently getting a face lift. I have a some what complete disgography of Mike Grant productions other then what may have just come out. http://www.renegaderhythms.com/dj/guests/mike-grant/recordings.html David Matthew Gerbasi wrote: Does Mike have a website or a full discography anywhere??? thanks matthew Matthew Gerbasi |l| Darcy Detroit lll Cadillac Regional Traffic|l| 248-458-8567|l| [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eliminate your ego by having self confidence without pride -- Basi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF
I believe that UR will be reprented by James Pennington as they were represented last year by Rolando Nick Walsh wrote: --- tom johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for all of your help! Why isn't DJ T-1000 playing at this year's lineup? Is there some sort of bad relationship between the DEMF and him? There are few people left in Detroit that have not played yet, why is he not on there? Why aren't UR there? Why isn't Rob Hood or Mills there? They're more detroit than most of the freaks playing this year... Later, Nick:) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF no Ritchie Hawtin!!
Here Here some excellent music coming up in late May. You'll definitely be seeing me ... Dave Dale Lawrence wrote: Yes, there were plenty of people last year that weren't given the opportunity to play. There just weren't enough slots for all the talent. We should be glad that we have enough talent in this city to throw a three day festival with four stages and still not have enough slots to cover even half of the names we'd like to see. I was honored to play last year, and twice honored because I was lucky enough to play on the mainstage too. I had no intention of playing this years DEMF and didn't even submit my name for consideration, as did many other artists from the area. Even in the Planet E camp, I don't see Recloose, Moodyman, or even Mr.Craig in the line-up. There are plenty of musicians here that deserve to get their turn too and I'm looking forward to seeing them play this year. See you in Hart Plaza... Dale At 03:04 PM 3/29/01 -0500, you wrote: the fact that he was there last year is more than likely the reason he is not coming this year. have you not noticed that has been the formula mg Matthew Gerbasi |l| Darcy Detroit lll Cadillac Regional Traffic|l| 248-458-8567|l| [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eliminate your ego by having self confidence without pride -- Basi TIMOTHY JOHNSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/01 03:01PM I can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet!!! Jeff Mills rules (don't get me wrong) but Ritchie and Larkin were the heart of the party last year, in my opinion! What is the group consensus? http://www.mp3.com/wraith313 for tasty tracks! PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Press Conference
Yea.. but you have to remember that you're donating $25 basically to the Detroit Parks and Recreations deptarment. I definitely feel that I got my $25 worth of entertainmnet last year. Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they sell those posters at the event? I'll need about 1000 to wallpaper my apartment. last year they were $25 a piece. they were really nice posters, and i really wanted one, but not for that price! that'd be a pretty pricey wallpaper job. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fw: Richie Hawtin live in the UK
I believe the 430 West Crew has played Gatecrasher as well But being in the states.. that could just a be rumor Mark Hughes wrote: No it REALLY can't be Gatecrasher, it can't be! Next thing we'll be hearing that he's playing Cream because they are now down with the Underground. Cheers Mark --- paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U.K. LIVE DATES IN APRIL Fri 13th April: Generation Arena @ Gatecrasher, NEC, Birmingham you've got to be kidding! who else is playing gatecrasher? paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
