Re: [313] 313?
I totally love this Derrick May live in Belgium mix I pulled offa Napster. Also the Rolando mix CD. As for not-really-313 mix CD's: A Basement Jaxx Radio 1 mix I have from '99 is hot, and a drum n' bass mix that DJ Empress (NYC) hit me off with last week rocks-- relentless and beautifully mixed. Jorge now i know that someone will argue that this stuff is somehow relevant to 313 but i don't give a shit. it's an irrevalent argument. so to help the list enter a new and exciting era of on-topic discussion, i will ask the question what is your favorite mixtape or live dj set on cd and why? -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Fwd: The state of the raver scene...
For your viewing pleasure/nightmares when you get the time. Some of these pictures are a must -- mind you, the subtitles need help... http://www.jalapeno.org/rra/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Di Giorgio
Yeah - DiGiorgio rocked it last night. Nice to see a big turnout for the event. and thanks for the good review! I have a few tracks on SUNRUNNERS as Duermo, and I'm proud to be on ism. Swingsett and J Warrin - the label heads - are two of the most musically forward thinking people I know, and I think it reflects in the label's output. Watch out, cuz NYC's coming with the new stuff in a big way. peace, Jorge That party was probably thrown by ism records (ism/Esho Thursdays 121 St.Marks Place near Ave. A)... check out their new CD Sun Runners mixed by DJ Swingsett. Very cool mix of deep house sounds, freestyle breaks, dub. Here's my review of it (http://www.toastmag.com/24/rev_04.html#rev14): Various Artists Sun Runners (ism Records) New York's DJ Swingsett showcases some previously unreleased tunes from his, and J.Warrin's, ism Records. Sun Runners is an eclectic mix of sambas, East Coast jazz/funk/house blends, floor rumbling drum & bass, fresh breakbeat excursions, Japanese Koto music, and dub that would drive the Mad Professor crazy. No, you didn't read it wrong I did list Japanese Koto music. That would happen to be "Vida Blue" by Beatboxes at Dawn. It's a weave of big and mental boom-boom beats and the gentle court music of Japan and it's that kind of stick-your-neck-out approach that makes the ism Record label a hot spot for innovation. Wally & Swinsett's "Dropera" pushes the beats into weirdness until you think it's almost lost the plot, then they drop a big ol' bassline in and it just jells into funky chunks. Dub tracks, like Motopsyco and Cassien's "Water Tree," are used to dunk listeners deeper into the mix. Actually, it's difficult to call any one track dub, house, or breakbeat. DJ Swingsett and J. Warrin have made it their purpose to break out of the mental walls that confine creativity, exploration, and good music. With ism Records, we've got plenty of good music in our future. [MEK] www.ismrecords.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Di Giorgio Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:09:42 GMT Checked out Kirk Di Giorgio last night in NYC. He was playing a small loungy party called "ism", I believe. My man was rippin' it with deep, eclectic housey flavors. He even dropped the lovely "Burning" by Pepe Braddock... Respect. Nice to see some quality music in NY. The nightlife gets pretty dry here. -J - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Fwd: NYC 313-ers -- Can't Miss This
Hello friends... PLEASE JOIN US THIS THURSDAY - APRIL 19 - FOR OUR FREE Party at... ** OPENAIR ** 121 St. Mark's Place (at Ave. A) Beautiful bar, atmospheric computer art, light installations and an amazing sound system...all served with Hot Sake!! ism Records and Esho Recordings in association with Ubiquity Recordings and Listen.com, IRMA Records USA and Turning Point Productions present our special guest all the way from London... KIRK DEGIORGIO (aka Off World Ensemble and As One) ( Ubiquity-singles,remixes and LP due in June; Mo' Wax-LPand remixes, Clear Recordings-LP&singles; Talkin' Loud-remixes only- ) This gifted veteran producer will be playing a rare NYC DJ set with his unique blend of breakbeat, soul, and organicfuturejazz. Don't miss your chance to hear one of the world's most innovative electronic/dance producers Its going to be something truly fresh and original. * Kirk will be spinning from 12midnite to 1:30am * HERE'S HIS BIO AND MORE INFO... > Kirk Degiorgio is one of the most sought-after mixers/producers in today's > eclectic dance music scene. Steering away from musical cliches and sticking > to his soul-boy roots, he has managed to maintain his musical integrity over > 8 years and 5 albums. In 1999 Kirk started work on a new musical project, > which will finally see completion and full length release on Ubiquity in > late 2001 under the name As One. > > Ubiquity will release the As One "Another Revolution" 10" in June 2001, and > the "21st Century Soul" album in the late Fall. > > While working on this new album Degiorgio has completed critically acclaimed > remixes for 4 Hero, Beanfield, Azymuth, Tony Allen, and even the Newcleus > classic "Jam On Revenge." He recently released a mixed CD called "The Soul > of Science" (Obsessive Records) featuring unreleased Herbie Hancock > soundtrack material, future jazz, and classic soul. Degiorgio currently uses > As One, Elegy, Esoterik, Critical Phase, Family Values, Super-A-Loof (with > Jamie Odell), and The Off World Ensemble as recording aliases. He has also > established himself as a club DJ /radio personality in London, where he > regularly hosts the R Solution show on Kiss FM. > > Degiorgio was raised in Ipswich, England, a town also once home to > experimental producers like Photek, Patrick Forge (Da Lata), and members of > The Black Dog. In 1992 Degiorgio recorded his first release on B12 Records. > Shortly after this debut he founded the ART label releasing early material > by artists such as Carl Craig, Aphex Twin, and The Black Dog. Degiorgio > recorded material under the names As One and Future/Past for ART, Planet E > and R&S before signing As One to New Electronica for the albums Reflections > and Celestial Soul, which both made the Muzik Top 30 albums for 1994/5. > Further albums for Clear (UK) and Shield (France) eventually secured Kirk's > reputation as a producer with a unique, individual sound, often > incorporating jazz, soul, and funk elements into electronic tracks. > Degiorgio's sound, as to be heard on the upcoming As One album, is warm > techno with real soul and often based outside of the constraints of the > straight 4/4 beat. His style can be partly traced to his main musical > influences: P-Funk, Motown, early hip hop, Detroit techno, and mid-60's Blue > Note. > Degiorgio's pioneering approach led to his first major release in 1997 for > the Mo' Wax label, for whom he also remixed the Carl Craig classic > "BugInTheBassBin". The Planetory Folklore album on Mo' Wax was a great > commercial and artistic success which together with several hi-profile TV ad > soundtracks gave Degiorgio a wider exposure. Infact his success as a > composer of soundtrack/advertising material (he's completed work for Adidas, > Fanta, Michelen, and Microsoft) has given him the freedom to take other > musical experimentations to new heights. > > For a (massive) full discography, plus info on Kirk Degiorgio, his favourite > tracks, and a guide to the recordings of Sun Ra and Blue Note see > www.kirkdegiorgio.com __ Joining Kirk on this THURSDAY at OPENAIR are two other very special guests... FABRIZIO(IRMA Records, Melting Pot) & TOMMY'Smokes'TODISCO(Turning Point, Melting Pot) Fabrizio has been DJ'ing in NYC for the past 10 years, settling here after growing up in Italy. He has a wide range of influences and superbly mixes Nujazz styles, with elements of AfroBeat, Latin and Brazillian flavors, along with deep jazzy house. Tommy "Smokes" Todisco has been DJ'ing for over 15 years in the finest Italian and NYC clubs. His recent Friday night set on the main floor at Centro Fly was a refreshing mix of deep soulful breaks and various styles of house. He had the club bumpin' and it will work for you too... * Fabrizio and Tommy will be gracing the decks from 1:30am - 3am * Opening the
Re: [313] Freep Article 2
Oof. Just read the lineup. Anyone else out there feel that overall it's a little hurtin'? Who *are* some of these folks? And why DiGiorgio and Jazzanova 2x on the same day? Couldn't they find anyone else to fill those slots? Sorry. Rainy and damp in NYC and in a bitchy mood. Maybe Happy Hour will get the grinch out of me. peace, Jorge _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] The spam must never stop flowing
Remember how Godzilla would throw a train into the side of a mountain? I have only been to one (1) of Juan's sets where he didn't wreck. That was his tag team with Derrick May at Vinyl here in NY a couple of years back. Awesome. Besides that, he is a very, very bad man to the EQ's and turntables. Very bad. Jorge is Juan really that bad a DJ? i have his MasterMix on WaxTrax and the mixing is shady and dodgy at times... but i read the allmusic.com review of it and i got the impression from there that he's not bad live. i've never seen him before so i can't comment. any thoughts? Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] The spam must never stop flowing Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:40:57 -0500 SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY! SEE Juan Atkins as he MANGLES the turntables in this <> Juan will amaze with his SKZ on the one and two!!! SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY! B THRE! hahahahahahahaha! "Mike Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/22/2001 03:37:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: [313] The spam must never stop flowing gees, can you at least be kinda subtle and only post about your event 6 times a week. next thing you know there will be a TV commerical with the guy who does all the voice overs for monster truck shows. >From: THEMUSIC MUST NEVER STOP FLOWING <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: [313] get your tickets for juan atkins April 7th at discount price >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:36:15 -0500 > >the originator juan atkins show is on and you can be there for $10 just >call and say you hear it from the 313 and get your tickets. place 39940 >ford rd canton 2 blocks e of i 275 call 734-464-8447 > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Mixed Up Without A Tracklist
Need the tracklisting for "Mixed Up In The Hague" . I remember someone posting a link to it a while back, but - don't have it anymore. Could someone send / post it. Cheers! Jorge _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Electro
"MIXED UP IN THE HAGUE, Vol.1" by i-F is full of great old electro-y
Eurodisco and straight up electro tracks. A great mix CD.
Any comps of '80s American electro are usually a sure bet (can't think of
any names off hand, but will get back to you). Even the cornier old school
electro is pretty great.
Drexciya, Drexciya, Drexciya. Those guys are good. *smirk*
peace,
Jorge
...er...also Twilight 76
d
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> And what about Bunker, Plasmek, Electronic
> Corporation
> etc... There's loads of new electro about... If you
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> some
> of my favorite electro stuff comes from Adult,
> > LeCar and the Ersatz Aduio camp
> > (http://www.ersatzaudio.com)
> > I also highly suggest Ectomporph and some of the
> > electro releases from NYC's Spelunk Records as
> well
> > as
> > some of the music DJ Godfather put out under his
> > many
> > alias' for production (sektor 17, i think) and
> > always
> > Mr.Will Web and AUX 88 and Drexciya:).
> Dopplereffect
> > is always classic ("i want to be a porno-star")
> too
> > as
> > well as the early cybotron & bambaataa material.
> >
> > For a well put together history check out (copy
> and
> > paste link into):
> >
>
http://www.ele-mental.org/ele_ment/think/original/think.html
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> >
> > electric boogaloo,
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Re: [313] live on the puters
If it's crowd reaction you're talking about, setting up long breakdowns and pumping your fist in the air when the kick comes in seems to work pretty well, even if it's a cheap trick. The true heads aren't swayed by cheap theatrics, but then they'll be with you if the tracks are tight, even if all you do is hide under a table and tweak knobs. kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes I'm doing my first ever set in a couple of weeks, Powerbook playing my tracks straight off Logic and tweaking them live with Pluggo. It doesn't matter to me that I'll have a few seconds of space in between songs. I think of it as time to let the listener clean their aural palate, so to speak ; ). What matters is that the tracks are "tight" before I even go in and mess with them. Jorge ++- SUNRUNNERS - continuous mix by DJ Swingsett featuring new tracks by yours truly as DUERMO, DJ SPINNA, JAYMZ NYLON, TWILIGHT CIRCUS, DJ SWINGSETT/J WARRIN and others - out NOW *www.ismrecords.com* _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] MAKING traffic ON topic
i think in the past people used to go out to listen to music and perhaps to take some drugs. today, many of my generation go out to take drugs and perhaps to listen to some music. peter A valid point. I also, going back to Lester's question, think the particular drugs that are used owe more to an age difference. The few places I go to here in NY - mainly deep/tracky house nights - cater to an "older" crowd (late 20's to mid-30's) who prefer drinking or toking than being "off their heads" on E or K. I also don't see anyone crashed out in front of the speakers on these nights, whereas it's still a common sight at some of the bigger techno nights. Though that seems to be changing, too (for the better). E in NY at the moment appears to be more the party drug of choice for those who didn't grow up in / with dance culture. I know less and less people who grew up with this culture who continue to use it. Jorge ++- SUNRUNNERS - continuous mix by DJ Swingsett featuring new tracks by yours truly as DUERMO, DJ SPINNA, JAYMZ NYLON, TWILIGHT CIRCUS, DJ SWINGSETT/J WARRIN and others - out NOW *www.ismrecords.com* _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
OT: Performing Live With A Laptop
Sorry about the off topic thread, but the tech-gear list has been way too quiet lately and I'm in a bind: Does anyone have experience using a laptop (particularly a Mac Powerbook) in a live setting/performance? It's coming down to the wire for me - I'll need to take my machine out in March and make folks move, but I'm a bit freaked. Never done this before... Please respond privately, and I apologize again for the bandwidth use. Jorge _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] boards of canada +
Same goes for a show like this in NYC. Any NY 313-ers think it would be great to see B0C here? WARP just opened a NYC office, so here's to hoping they'll have something up their anorak sleeves for the coming year. Jorge Acts like Kid 606 cost about 1/4 the amount of any of the warp/rephlex artists you mention here. I'm sure many folks would be interested in seeing a show such as the one you propose, but it would require major promotion, needless to say. -joe p.s. aphex and some other rephlex heads are going on a US tour this winter anyway. --- "Dr. Robot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 313'ers, > > > i was interested in finding out how many of you guys > are into boards of > canada. if ya are, i figure we need to get a mass > email together to write to > the motor to try to pull these guys in to detroit to > play a show. i > personaly think that would be an opertunity of a > life time but maybe its > just me. maybe we can pull together some kind of > warp/rephlex show here in > detoit with all the all stars (autechre, aphex twin, > jamie lindell, bogdan > raczynski, u-ziq, etc.) > > now, i know i cant be the only warp head out there, > and to be quite honest, > i dont see why we couldnt bring these guys out if we > can pull in acts like > funkstorung and kid 606.if a show if this calibur > were to ever exist, how > many of you would be there? > > thanks, > mike > _ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
Could anyone please point me in the direction of some kind of minimal experimnetal classical music? It would be greatly appreciated. thx. there's so many ways to go with this: Schoenberg, Reich, Glass, uh... Gavin Bryars BUT start off with Erik Satie. You can get decent budget priced Naxos versions of his complete piano works at most big chain stores. Challenging, lovely stuff - and a big influence on people like Eno who in turn has influenced people like D. May, who in turn is one of the reasons for this list (wanna keep topics in 313-land, ya know). ; ) Satie's influence is *all over* contemporary electronics based music. peace, Jorge --+++--- SUN RUNNERS compilation on *ism records* Out November 21. Tracks by yours truly as DUERMO, Twilight Circus, DJ Spinna, Swingsett/JWarrin and others. Check It. - _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Another Necessary Spam
Sorry, y'all. I just received this myself and felt it needs to be passed along. Hopefully this election weirdness will be resolved and I can quit sending this sort of thing: << Today is the deadline to do this, so please read this and send it today. -- > You can read the article on CNN's web site where it states that "Officials >in Palm Beach announced 19,120 ballots in the presidential race were tossed >out" >http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/09/election.president/index.h >tml#1 > >19,120 votes from Palm Beach County, Florida are being thrown out from the >Florida election due to poor ballet design, on these ballets two candidates >were selected, Gore and Buchanan. > >Click the link below to send an email to Clay Roberts, Director of the >Division of Election in Florida asking for a re-vote of the Presidential >race in Palm Beach County: > > http://www.workingforchange.com/activism/action.cfm?ItemId=9237 > >Deadline: November 9, 2000 >Please forward this message. >Urge Florida to Ensure Integrity of Presidential Vote >The election of Al Gore or George W. Bush as President may depend on the >resolution of voting irregularities in Florida. Reports from Palm Beach >County indicate that a confusing ballot set-up in that county led to >thousands of votes mistakenly going to Pat Buchanan instead of Al Gore. >There are reports of other voting irregularities as well. Florida Governor >Jeb Bush, brother of George W. Bush, has recused himself from investigating >these problems. >Florida's Division of Election Director, Clay Roberts, presides over >elections in Florida, and must bear responsibility for the integrity of the >results to be reported by that state. Call on Director Roberts to ask for a >re-vote of the Presidential race in Palm Beach County. > >Click the link below to send an email to Clay Roberts, Director of the >Division of Election in Florida asking for a re-vote of the Presidential >race in Palm Beach County: > > http://www.workingforchange.com/activism/action.cfm?ItemId=9237 > > >If you visit the site >http://www.workingforchange.com/activism/action.cfm?ItemId=9237 and can't >get through, their server crashed. > >It seems that the traffic on the site is so heavy, that the send button now >hangs and gives an error message. If you have trouble, please just cut and >paste the text below into an email message and send it, along with your name >and address, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Here's the text of the letter: > >Dear Election Director Roberts: > >The integrity of the 2000 Presidential election now rests in your hands. >Please use the full power of your office to call for a re-vote of the >Presidential race in Palm Beach County. Governor George W. Bush's ability >to govern will be greatly hindered if the presidential race is decided by >voting irregularities in Florida. --+++--- SUN RUNNERS compilation on *ism records* Out November 21. Tracks by yours truly as DUERMO, Twilight Circus, DJ Spinna, Swingsett/JWarrin and others. Check It. - _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] New music format/EAR/Kevin Shields
And if you haven't checked out My Bloody Valentine, it is more ahead of it's time than most (if not ALL) techno IMHO and i don't think anyone will ever match it. If you mean by "match it" that no one will ever be able to emulate the classic MBV sound - well, what would be the point? Any attempt to emulate a wholly unique work will just look/sound silly in the long run. Being influenced is a completely different matter, though. Please reply if you think anything else (especially techno) compares to MBV What's the criteria? "Timelessness"? Sonic adventurousness? It could be many : Derrick May's classic work , Autechre, Brian Wilson's work up to "Smiley Smile", Sun Ra, Ar Kane's "69" ? Hell, even "Kid A" comes close at times... --+++--- SUN RUNNERS compilation on *ism records* Out November 21. Tracks by yours truly as DUERMO, Twilight Circus, DJ Spinna, Swingsett/JWarrin and others. Check It. - _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] New music format
hmmm... so Kevin didn't spend the whole of the last decade "building a studio" then - he did work on some released music at some point! ;) He mixed a track on the latest Primal Scream record . It's nothing special. He also played guitar on the album and toured with them to support it. The sad thing is he seems to have become so caught up in listening to drum n' bass (read this in an interview) that he was trying to move MBV in more of a d n' b direction, most of the band members split for other pastures, and it just became a case of misguided genius. Kind of like Prince. J - SUN RUNNERS compilation on *ism records* Out November 21. Tracks by yours truly as DUERMO, Twilight Circus, DJ Spinna, Swingsett/JWarrin and others. Check It. - _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] New music format
E.A.R. *is* Sonic Boom's project, but Mr. Shields has assisted him - on the first album , at least - along with Kevin Martin. I saw Sonic do a performance here in NYC a couple of years back where all he used were about six Speak - N - Spells, all hotwired to create different tones and vocal sounds, along with an effects processor. The wall of sound he created was awesome. There are photos from this performance at www.djphotos.com , if anyone's innerested. peace, Jorge Tristan wrote: E.A.R. (Expierimental Audio Research) was a strange ambient project from Kevin Shield of My Blood Valentine once upon a time. Kinda spotty stuff. Could this be related to hiim? i think E.A.R was the handywork of Pete Kember (aka Sonic Boom), and not Kevin Shields. oops, not all that Detroit related... never mind eh. rob ps: also non-313 - the Blue Jam cd on Warp is hilarious. insanely dark humour... buy buy buy. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
+8 // M_nus Records Party In NYC October 19th
Thursday October 19 2000 (10 pm -- ?) * THEOREM (M_nus Records) * CLARK WARNER (+8 // M_nus Records) * SATAMILE (Satamile Records) * P.JAY (Nyex) Visuals By P.J.net // Feedbuck and others $10 // $5 with flyer --- BAKTUN 418 W 14th Street ) Xtra 1100 Watt Sub Bass Enforcement Call: 212.604.4496 for updates _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Infiniti feat.: Juan Atkins Never Tempt Me
Just listening to the various remixes of "Never Tempt Me". (Tresor 132) The second track (Flowing Mix) by Thomas Fehlmann has its points but I still like the original best. Anybody have any comments about the CD? mediadrome If you're referring to the insanely slept on and badly (non?) promoted SKYNET album, I personally think it's mostly an awesome piece of gorgeous funky, melodic, deep techno. Granted, a couple of the tracks feel like exercises in "repeating the groove", but even those have a strange kinda charm. I think it's one of the most slept on techno albums yet, and it pretty much matches, and often surpasses, M500's DEEP SPACE in its grooviness, cheers, j _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] website for Larry Heard
is there a good website for Larry Heard and his catalog??? thanks, five Try http://www.33rpm.com/larryheard/intro.html J. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Kid A
I had the joy of purchasing the new Radiohead album last night. Highly recommended and I guarentee is destined to be looked upon as a classic album. Worth every penny. Peace, Kyeo I absolutely second that. Somebody's been listening to Autechre in that band. Great record. j _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] digweed
the scoop on them is...I'd rather be trapped on an airplane listening to the mouths of screaming babes while 100 people line up on a chalk board scrapping their nails down it, while singing operatic Eminem and Ted Nugent (to put some 313 content in) songsthan listen to that poster/pretty boy trance crap. ...to put it lightly. but, hey...to each his/her own!tra la la, skippity doo:) d Oh, Diana. You have not known hell unless you have spent 3 hours in a packed Roxy (NYC) with Mr. Paul Oakenfold and the masses who love him. 3 hours of thump without a hint of funk. I would rather french a lemur than go through a night of trance again. No joke. ; ) J _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Carl Craig/Moodymann in NYC : Opinions?
Alright, NY area 313-ers. Any opinions on the show last Friday? My opinion? Moodymann's set was sloppy, self indulgent and somehow interesting, for the first 20 mins. Plus, i thought his c. 1982 Prince-isms behind the mic were pretty funny. But I expected something tighter. Carl Craig's set was a joy to hear and watch, but unfortunately he went on waaay too late and any energy I had for dancing was sapped. Great to see him do a "live" E2-E4, though. Some folks i spoke to afterwards hated the show, though. One said it was overall so sloppy in execution that its no wonder Americans ( I'm assuming my friend who made this comment was referring to the US record buying public) don't take 313 music/ artists seriously. Jorge _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Re: anyone know? - urb dont know
I have to disagree. I think URB has done a pretty admirable job of covering the trendy and the not-so-trendy, (Black, White, japanese or Drexciyan ;) ) with equal attention. Check out last year's Innovators issue. I have yet to see another "Future Music" magazine -- XLR8R included -- put out an issue like that one, where the great choice of "innovators" selected was matched by some high quality writing. If I have one - uh - issue with URB it's that they can be a tad Left-Coastcentric, and that I rarely read a negative or even highly critical review of new music. peace, Jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: anyone know? - urb dont know Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:29:36 EDT Hi all, I USED to be a reader of URB magazine. I think they do have an interest in Future Music Culture but it seems to be White Future Music Culture. It seems to have lots of tidbits about this and that but very white. There is a whole heritage of stuff that should be covered in -depth around this music. I think Derrick described his music as "Kraftwerk meets Funkadelic in the elevator." Carl Craig said they wanted to make music that wouldn't be classified as "ghetto", funny but Detroit Techno seems to be ghettoized. Like it's something for white people or music obscurists... I don't know It seems to me that the overall lack of American media coverage on Detroit techno has a lot to do with racism. If Juan, Derrick or Kevin were white I really believe them, their work, and things like the DEMF would have more respect. I think the DEMF was a great thing and I just regret that I wasn't there but thank God for archived webcasts. I think the Detroit News gave it its biggest coverage to my knowledge and even some that was suspect. Peace, Five - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Live In Detroit 1999 Tracklisting.
Anyone willing to trade a copy of this for something? Or anyone know where I can purchase a copy? J. From: "Jonny McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] Live In Detroit 1999 Tracklisting. Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:55:41 +0100 A few people wanted to know about the track listing for Theo Parrish's Live In Detroit 1999 tape. I've just listened to it again (after trying last week only to find the tape was swapped by my girlfriend for the Little Prince, in french, which was nice, but not much of a groove). I haven't done all the house tracks, cause I don't know them all. I know all the disco/boogie except the one that Discocaine sampled on "Back to back", if anyone can ID this, let me know. If anyone, out of gratitude, wants to reward me for this, I don't have either "Overyohead" or the one sided Summertime 12" thing. If anybody should find a spare copy of either, let me know, and I'll sort out reimbursment by way of cash or exchange. Here's the patchy listing: 1. Theo Parrish 2. Theo Parrish 3. Herbie Hancock - Stars In Your Eyes From the Monsters LP, which is crap, also available on a 12". 4. Players Association - Hustlin' From their first LP. 5. Larry Heard? 6. ??* 7. Old Trax thing, sounds like a dub of something well known? 8. Five Special - Why Leave Us Alone Fairly easily found 12" 9. Cameo - It's Serious Very easy to find 12" 10. Fingers Inc. - Washing Machine 11. Theo Parrish 12. Body & Soul type thing.* 13. Theo Parrish - the best he's done, IMO, is this Overyohead? 14. Apparently on a Salsoul subsidary, I know Discocaine sampled it for Back to Back. If anyone knows what this is, let me know. 15. Theo Parrish. 16. Theo Parrish. 17. Whatnauts - Help Is On The Way Quite hard to find, though try www.raregrooves.co.uk , they had a special on it a while back. 18. Made In The USA - Shake Your Body On De-Lite. The 12" is quite sought after, the LP's middlingly easy to find. I've got a spare 7", if anyone is desperately after it. 19. Marvin Gaye - Heavy Love Affair From the In Our Lifetime LP, which is good. 20. Bumblebee Unlimited - Lovebug Reissued on Unidisc, also on rare Red Greg 12" and album. It's Leroy Burgess, Patrick Adams etc. 21. Roy Ayers - Can't You See Me On 12", also available on some comp, apparently. One of the tracks marked with an asterisk is by Kings Of Tomorrow under a pseudonym that I cannot remember off the top of my head, but they used the same name for the "Rude Movements EP" on Yoshitoshi- I can't remember which track it is, either. Sorry. Similarly I haven't written what tracks are which for the Theo Parrish ones, partly because I am lazy and can't be bothered to check when I get home and partly because I don't have all the Sound Signature twelves to know. (hint hint). Enjoy, Jonny. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] paperclip people live
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] paperclip people live Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:18:25 +0200 It was indeed a nice DJ set but it wasn't really live. He had some equipment on stage but hitting the play button on your MPC and missing and talking into the mic. isn't really a live set, isn't it? Would you consider someone sitting/standing onstage behind, say, a laptop and hitting certain keys in order to get the sounds out to not constitute a "live act"? Maybe the laptop/MPC has to be understood as a newer type of instrument which demands different sort of expectations when viewed in a live context. Let's face it: the majority of instruments behind 313 type music don't lend themselves to real dynamic visual displays of technique. Remember the days of the guitar-style synth...; ) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Get Thee To CD Now, Now
Giorgio Moroder's "From Here To Eternity" on sale there for $12. If you don't have this, get it. Some of his best work. Jorge Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] for producers
I'm assuming you're talking about REASON. Yeah, it makes my mouth water. Almost *too much* good stuff in one box, and all for around $400! Can't wait to try this out. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] for producers Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:37:26 EDT for the producers on this list, might wanna check out this sitethis new program claims to be able to do everything a producer could possibly imagine. www.propellerheads.se it's in beta testing phase. anywho, check it out! -ruth www.ugsoundmgmt.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Cosmopolis and Frank Heiss
Heiss has done a bunch of productions with some of Cologne's finest (Dr.
Walker, Khan). I recommend his CD as Tube ("Alive") on the US Liquid Sky
label.
Jorge
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Subject: [313] Cosmopolis and Frank Heiss
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:58:43 +0200
can anyone provide me with some information of the two above mentioned djs?
they're playing at a local club next weekend and i've never heard of them
befor, so any info would be appreciated.
thanks for your time
peter
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Re: [313] landcrusing
I recommend it. CC had said at the time of release that the record was an attempt at paying homage to *all* his influences (Kraftwerk, Prince the geeetars>,his Detroit peers, et. al). The production values are high, so that was a bit off putting to some. Whatever. It's a great record. peace, Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish From: Mike Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] landcrusing Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 16:56:57 -0400 Hello, I just recieved this review from the S://kimo mailing list, I thought fellow list members would be interested. Also, I have not heard this release, is it essential? I have heard mixed reviews and I would like a few more opinions. "CRAIG, CARL: Landcruising CD (BLANCO Y NEGRO/WEA) $17.25 Now available as a mid-line reissue, this is Carl Craig's debut full length album, originally issued on the now-doomed UK WEA-associated Blanco Y Negro label in 1995. A concentrated, fully developed album (not a collection of previously released singles), Craig went all out to record one of the classic, defining records of Detroit-originated electronic music. A controversial record upon release (obvious guitar textures can be heard sampled; the overall sound is much more luxurious and sophisticated than usually expected from Detroit techno productions; it didn't contain any of Carl's numerous popular tracks under prior alias'; and, it was released on a label of dubious credibility w/ major label distribution), it is full of epic tracks and is a crucial document in Craig's career overview.. It has never been distributed in any proper sense in the US and remains largely unheard by Craig followers who are much more familiar with his Planet E/SSR output. Ripe for rediscovery." Take care, MT NP : All the Pretty Things : Involve 05 : beautiful... -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators
Wee Papa Girls? Aggh! The foulness. I'd love to hear these mixes, see what Reese did, 'cause the WPG alone were hard to deal with. BTW, Any NY 313ers going to hear Kevin at CentroFly on the 24th? From: Peter B Leidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: justice 808 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:08:25 -0400 (EDT) > >Wee papa girls -"" Kevin Saunderson RMX -Again I don't bother with the > >title. I remember this one had some awful 303 (???), somekind of > >acid-attempt tried. > > Are you kiding me??The Master Reese mix of The Wee Papa Girls "Heat It > Up"(Jive)is one of my fave remixes of all time!I thought the 303 line was > pretty good,and the remix as a whole was a groundbreaking one(one of the > first records 2 totally strip everything out of the original).Awesome > remix.I think there was also mixes by Chicago Mike "Hitman"Wilson. > I love that mix too, I have another wee papa girls track w/ KMS production on an old Jive records house comp- track was called "we know it". both are fun tracks- and they mix with lots of stuff 'cause theres the detroit beats/percussion, the chigaco acid bass, and the hiphop vocals. I think on that same Jive comp. was one of the worst adonis song i've ever heard, and also samantha fox :) -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Steve Arrington!
'sokay. I'd seek out the stuff he did as a member of SLAVE instead. There's a greatest hits out that has all you'll need. Keep Funk Alive. jorge www.mp3.com/milkish From: "justice 808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Steve Arrington! Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:53:33 BST Sorry for being totally off topic,but I had the chance to by a old Steve Arrington album today(think it was called "Songs In The Key of Life" or something like that)but I passed on it.A friend told me his early stuff is worth picking up,and I seem 2 remember Steve's name being mentioned on this list a few years back.So, should I have bought it??What's his best stuff?? Justice __ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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Re: [313] Fwd: Prince speaks
Thanks for posting this. As cheesy as the man may have gotten over the years, he's still a big part of where the 313 sound came from, so it's still cool to hear his opinions and (occasionally) his music. This comes from someone who's first self purchased 45 (w/ paper route money) was "Controversy", wy back in Dem Days. J. www.mp3.com/milkish From: "Diana Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Fwd: Prince speaks Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 01:15:40 GMT Pardon the previous, I got a bit trigger happy. Fellow 313er, Alex H., sent this to me. Though it is not _directly_ 313 related I thought it deals with some topics we've discussed on this list,from a man who has had such a part (what kind is matter of opinion) in music history (I dont know about you, but 'Manic Monday' brigtened my days as a youth:). Sorry, for the large post. Just delete it,instead of flaming me. d The truth from the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as Prince. (In his special numeric "language" and all...) http://www.npgonlineltd.com/freedomnews.html 4 The Love of Music: 2 Very Different Approaches Real music lovers do not simply consume music. Real music lovers develop a special relationship with the works of the artists they like. At some point of their xploration of the music of a new artist, usually something "clicks" and triggers a whole process of discovery which involves wanting 2 hear everything the artist has ever put out (including b-sides, non-album contributions, etc.), wanting 2 hear it in the best possible conditions, wanting 2 hear live renditions of the music and wanting 2 share this discovery with other people. They also feel that things like album packaging r an integral part of the musical experience, that the artwork, in so far as the artist has been involved in it, is an integral part of the artistic statement of a specific release and they want 2 own an original copy of it so that they can xamine it from all angles, in search of clues, or bits of in4mation which might enhance their understanding and appreciation of the music. On the other hand, some people just consume music. They want a copy of a song bcuz everyone else is in2 the song. They don't really care about top-notch sound quality, as long as it is more or less "CD quality." They don't really care about the rest of the contents of the album bcuz all they really like is the hit single that every radio station and music TV station is playing non-stop. They just want 2 b able 2 listen 2 the track over and over again until they wear it out, they effectively consume it and then turn 2 something else. They r not really interested in music as an art 4m, but rather as a 4m of disposable entertainment always looking 4 the latest hit which is going 2 displace the previous chart topper in their social environment, so that they r sure they stay "hip" 2 the latest trend. Those r 2 very different approaches 2 music. The trouble with the current system is that it is primarily designed 2 meet the needs of music consumers and not of music lovers. There is some overlap, of course, and sometimes real musicians enjoy a fair amount of commercial success which indicates that they r benefiting from the system designed 4 music consumers, that their music is not only appealing 2 music lovers, but also 2 music consumers. This is fine with them as long as they don't have 2 compromise their artistic integrity. Un4tunately, once u become part of the music consuming system, u have 2 obey very different rules and many artists r, understandably, not comfortable with this, which creates all kinds of tensions after they have xperienced a certain amount of commercial success. A Fundamental Hypocrisy The fundamental hypocrisy of the music industry (and of some artists) in the current debate over the MP3 4mat, Napster and other 4ms of online xchange of music is that they r talking about copyright, intellectual property and other such noble concepts when the only thing that they r actually trying 2 protect is the commercial value of their musical "product." It's indicative, 4 xample, that, in a recent interview with the Los Angeles Times, Time Warner President Richard Parsons would make comments such as these: An increasing number of young people don't buy albums, so we are not only losing that immediate revenue. They are also growing up with a notion that music is free and ought to be free. This statement deals with the relationship between music and the public from a purely commercial point of view. Nowhere in his statement is there any indication that what might happen with young people xchanging music is that they might develop a real appreciat
Re: [313] Sean Deason "Allegory and Metaphor"
From: Kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 list <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] Sean Deason "Allegory and Metaphor" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:13:31 -0500 (CDT) Sean came to Iowa City to spin last year and dropped me a copy of this. It is a remarkably smooth and deep exploration of techno. which has some bumping tracks, but also some pieces that are incredible 4 am chill material. Having grown up with techno in Detroit, this record has the traits of a classic jazzy techno track -- Kevin Saunderson comes to mind more than, say, Jeff Mills. But Allegory and Metaphor is beyond that a very personal work. It really does what art is supposed to -- express what is unique about Sean as an artist, instead of striving merely to conform to conventions of the form. I personally want this record to be a big success, if for no other reason than to make it possible for Sean to give more of his time to music, because with "Allegory and Metaphor" he's only just gotten started. kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=chaircrusher -- mix I was in a local used clothing shop with a friend yesterday afternoon and they were playing some lovely, almost baroque techno. I asked what it was and the cashier tells me "the new Sean Deason". After reading so much about it here I was glad to finally get a "glimpse" of it. Will be buying it, definitely. On another note: NYC 313'ers should get over to Kim's Underground as they've got a pile of Dan Curtin's "Pregenesis" CD on sale in their used bin (though the CD's are new)very cheap. It's highly recommended. I've been digging it nonstop. peace, Jorge Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Patrice Rushen
From: sean deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: james duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Patrice Rushen Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:33:55 -0400 since you brought her up. my memory has gone a bit foggy: what was the Patrice - Prince connection again? Anyone recall? I know there was one but cant seem to access that area of my memory :^) sean I remember seeing her playing keys for him on Saturday Night Live, doing "Electric Chair" off the BATMAN album. There's an earlier link between the two - but I gotta check my Prince bio to find that out. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Detroit in The Face
I've got an issue of The Face c. 1989 that has Depeche Mode hanging in Detroit w/ Derrick May. Great photos in that one. Don't know if anyone mentioned this in the past thread. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Astrology/Techno (Was Moronic)
From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Astrology/Techno (Was Moronic) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 13:24:31 +0900 >>>Decisions, decisions, the latent Gemini in me can't make up its mind. >> >>How many ppl on this list and prolific techno artists are gemini's? I'm not but should have but was born a few weeks later, I am not sure how premature/late births affect it. I am a Leo (though in in a few interpretations Leo/Cancer cusp) and there are no Leos making techno/ electronic music that I know of apart from Carl Cox. We're supposed to get on well with Geminis but they just beguile me, which isn't a bad thing since I like being beguiled. I have this theory that we're partly socialised into signs but then there are some commonalities that can't be explained. A lot of those daily readings are dubious though - how many times have you been promised a grand romance/holiday (BOTH OF WHICH I WANT NOW) and they ain't come? I was recently asked to make one up for a fashion magazine (I didn't) and I found out that a mate of mine did them for a leading women's mag when the regular guy (I'd love to tell you what he did before he retired and took up this column but it could get out and I'd be in trouble, it's hilarious mind) couldn't get around to it. Neither had backgrounds in astrology and were just using their creativity. So approach with caution. What is surprising though is how universal astrology is. If you talk star signs with people from different backgrounds (crossing race, creed, colour, nationality, gender, etc) you will usually find common ground. In this Claude Young (Cancer) interview I did recently he said that everytime he logs onto his e-mail he checks out his daily chart and it's usually not far off the mark. Cheers Cyclone Gemini here. STONE Gemini (May 31). Can't say much about how this influences the stuff I make, except maybe that my head's usually in 5 places at once and maybe all the things I pick up on come through in the music. I try not to think I'm superstitious, but just about everyone I've told I'm a Gemini waaay after they've gotten to know me says they could've guessed immediately. And their reasons why are usually - freakily - similar. Who knows? Jorge P.S. On another thread note: Let's hear/read opinions on Rob Hood's new one. Besides a couple of early reviews, everyone's been silent. I'm sure many of you have bought it. What's the consensus? I think it's one of the best 313 releases in a long time. While not in the stylistic vein he's recognized for, it holds up, for me, as a deep, very funky and very nostalgic series of exercises in Detroit techno.And it flows as an album, too. Been playing it every day. my 2 centavos. www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Juan/Swayzak
From: Mike Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Joshua M. Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Juan/Swayzak Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:46:40 -0700 (PDT) How about posting a review of the show afterwards? Swayzak isn't coming to SF until Aug. and I'd love to hear about their set and Juan's. thanks! -Mike Swayzak did a live PA at P.S. 1 ( an old school building converted into a contempo art museum in Queens, NY. The DJs/acts every Saturday thru the summer play in a sand filled space complete w/ beach umbrellas and chairs! Fun.) a couple of Saturdays back. Off the hook. I totally recommend checking them out when they're in your neck... Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] IF Mixed up in the Hague
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Re: [313] John Byrne (was Alan Oldham comics)
From: "*** ASKEW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] John Byrne (was Alan Oldham comics) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:57:57 PDT Jorge wrote: what didn't you dig about Eshun's book? I thought it was pretentious doodoo at first, then found it fascinating. I've got nothing against Kodwo or Dan... more power to them. I was just trying to lighten the thread a little. :) Besides, there's quite a few comic-book influences in Detroit techno... the Punisher, Vision, Nannytown, the Molemen... just to name a few. Kinda works in with Kodwo's black science fiction angle. cheers ~Askew Definitely. I'd love to see what Marvel would do with "Suburban Knight" : ). Or a UR comic. Jorge Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] John Byrne (was Alan Oldham comics)
From: "*** ASKEW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] John Byrne (was Alan Oldham comics) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:34:56 PDT Second: does anyone know of any good books about techno in particular, or electronic music in general? I've read "Techno Rebels" by Dan Sicko, "More brilliant than the Sun" by Kodwo Eshun and "Space is the place" by Szwed (about Sun Ra)... pffft* Kodwo Eshun. Dan Sicko... who's he? Try 'X-Men' 108-143 by John Byrne. The collected trade paperbacks of these issues should be easy to get. Some of the best techno books ever! Ha! :) ~Askew Try - if you can find them - The Incal series by Jodorowsky and Moebius. Let's see Neuromancer by William Gibson (I know, cliched.Still, it's a fun read. Hey, ~Askew: what didn't you dig about Eshun's book? I thought it was pretentious doodoo at first, then found it fascinating. Jorge Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Which Jay Denham?
Hey, folks. Currently listening to Abe Duque's DiskoB mix Cd and there's this Jay Denham piece on there, "False Hopes", I'm really feeling. Can anyone recommend a particular EP/CD of his stuff? Cheers. Jorge Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
From: "FRED MCMURRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:33:43 PDT Dub records doesn't really do dub music. They are more into the IDM click and clack sounds with ambient melodies underneath. From everything I've heard it's not the super bass heavy sound typical of dub music. However, the NUMMER EEN compilation is excellent..in fact I've been listening to it for the last week nonstop, yes buy it. I've been especially drawn to Funckarama's tracks. But don't confuse dub records with having elements of dub music...it doesn't. If you are looking for dub music go for Elektrolux records (elektrolux.com) (check out Synchromatic Dubsters, Dr. Scissors, Dub Mix Convetion, Jammin Unit), Dubhead records (dubhead.dircon.co.uk), Sountern Dub records, anything by Burnt Freeman, the Bush Chemists, Aramagideon, Sly and Robbie (of course)...this is just scraping the surface of the good dub. Fred I recommend Kit Clayton's "Nek Sanalet" album on ~scape (Pole's label). Some very deep dub textures/effects blended with Clayton's signature electronics. Noice. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish From: "The [Quad]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:00:46 -0700 I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on the 313... DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the "sounds" to be expected... Would the dub be of the spacious, minimal-type or maybe the heavy, gut-churning kind..? Better still-can my question be answered with a purchase of the "NUMMER EEN" CD comp..? Me And My Arrow, J. E. v.F-B. B. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Carl Craig & Friends in NYC 7.13.00
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Carl Craig & Friends in NYC 7.13.00 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:18:51 EDT For you New Yorkers out there, I thought you might want to check this... Carl Craig & Friends (featuring members of Innerzone Orchestra) plus opening act @ The Knitting Factory Doors at 9pm Tickets are $15.00 The Carl Craig & Friends performance takes the far reaches of what Innerzone Orchestra is and leaps further out into the open expanse of live electronics, organic instrumentation and improvisation, without a net. Accompanied by the talents of ex-Sun Ra and current Innerzone drummer/percussionist Francisco Mora, plus an assemblage of other like-minded musicians and DJ's, expect a melange of electronic soundscapes, percussion, free jazz, spoken word, turntablism, dance beats of many origins and permutations, and most of all, the unexpected. As has always been the case during his musical career, Carl Craig & Friends looks to challenge his audience's preconceptions even further. I hope Carl shows up this time. The Knitting Factory hosted the same thing last winter and Carl couldn't make it(snowed in). It ended up being Jonah Sharp, Mora, Taborn and another musician who's name I forget. Ok in parts, but mostly an aimless mess. Anyone going on the 13th? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] DJ Spooky/Dave Clarke
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Duke) Reply-To: Andrew Duke Cognition/In The Mix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "...IDM list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [313] DJ Spooky/Dave Clarke Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 08:44:36 -0300 My question after all this blather: was last night an atypical DJ Spooky set, or is he truly someone who shouldn't be DJing? Thanks. Andrew Duke -- Doesn't sound like an "atypical" Spooky set - and I've seen a few of them - and by this I mean I'm surprised he didn't break out way more records than the ones mentioned. Fatboy Slim??! He's also been known to break out the double bass and play it/play with it, along with finger piano. Spooky's a nice enough guy. I've just come to the conclusion that he's wy in his own head and those that choose to follow will. He's also got a great PR agent, methinks. mis dos centavos. Jorge Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
AXIS 20 -- opinions?
So, what do you all think of Axis 20? I've been playing this thing nonstop since I got it. Some of the best 313 I've heard in *ages*. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] axis 20
From: "Jwan Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] axis 20 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:59:15 -0400 Has anyone been able to snag a copy yet? This record looks to be the minmal nation of the next year (in terms of limited quanities) Jwan Allen www.hypervinyl.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Yup. Just bought myself a copy, along with the "Humana EP", a couple of hours ago. Called "Every Dog Has Its Day". Sounds fantastic, though I've only given both of the Axis 20 12"s a cursory spin each. Taping "Humana" as i write. According to the folks at Sonic Groove, where I bought it, Axis 20 is extremely ltd. edition. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Sequencers and Music
Hey, folks. Just came across this person's college paper on sequencers and their use/effect on music composition. Looks great. For the geeks like me who drool over this sorta thing (I need to get out more), it's at http://www.dan98.demon.co.uk/textdoc.htm peace and have a great weekend, Jorge PS. I downloaded a D.May set offa Macster last night "Live at FUSE March 1999 Part 1" anyone know where this was, and does anyone have access to Part II? Part I is definitely bumpin' (sounds taken right off the mixer). www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Infiniti : Overlooked?
I'm listening to "Skyway" at the moment and wondering: why the hell didn't the SKYNET album get a *massive* push from the press and record label? It's really an amazing piece of work, IMHO. Any ideas? Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] M500's "The Passage"
woops...the other track on that apollo record was not "warning" (which was off his deep space album), but "vessels in distress" Juan's vocals are real nice on this record. Thanks. I gotta track this one down now. Jorge NP: Vangelis - SOIL FESTIVITIES AR Kane -I Mr. Fingers - INTRODUCTION www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
"History Of House" publisher's address
I posted a comment re: this book earlier today. If anyone wants to learn what all your favorite 313 producers (and Larry Heard, Kraftwerk, and many, many others) had to say about where they were coming from - musically and conceptually, in their own words - back in the day, I seriously recommend this book.Highly. Sanctuary Publishing Ltd. The Colonnades 82 Bishop's Bridge Rd. London W2 6BB tel: +44(0) 171 243 0640 There's a US/Canada distributor # (no address given): Music Sales Corporation 1 800 431 7187 Good luck! Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
M500's "The Passage"
I've got this on a weird little comp. c.'93 (can't remember the title offhand - something like "Techno Fever" or thereabouts...). It's one of my absolute fave M500's - unlike anything else Juan had done up till then. Anyone know how many versions exist of this track, if any? Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] [was] Innovator Vs. Red Planet [now is] manners, and hodge podge
The Yardbirds may have beaten the Beatles to the punch, and Brian Williams get's into the mix with Pet Sounds. Hate to be a stickler, but it's "Brian Wilson". Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Old recording techniques...
From: c myster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Old recording techniques... Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:37:29 -0500 What impresses me is the attention to Detail. Derrick would would actually Splice peices of tape and insert it backwards to give it that backspin sound. If you've worked with Linear analog tape or even fixing old eaten cassette tapes, you can respect the amount of tedious time that went into it. mystro While we're on this thread, I would recommend "The History Of House" book that came out a couple years ago. I think it's a UK release through The Mix magazine, so you could probably get it from them. The interviews in there are priceless, and the Detroit ones are from the heyday (88-89). From what you learn about the technology Atkins, May, Saunderson (even Larry Heard, Li'l Louis, man! down to Kraftwerk)had to work with to come up with such timeless music, you have to wonder why there's so much garbage - along with some good stuff - now that we have *way* better tools to work with! My 2 centavos. JVelez Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Mixed Up in the Hague Vol. 1
From: "jim proffit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Mixed Up in the Hague Vol. 1 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:23:11 PDT Nathaniel Hovan wrote: Can anyone help me with artists and/or labels for these songs off >i-F's Mixed Up in the Hague Vol. 1 CD? These are the tracks I'm stuck on: -Primitive World -World Invasion -Manmade -Spacerwoman -Robot is Systematic -Super Shuffle -Take A Chance -Dirty Talk -Living Up -Feel The Drive -Catch -Influence Haven't heard that mix. Here's some tracks anyway... Patrick Cowley-Primitive world (Megatone) Man Parrish-Man made (Importe/12) 'Lectric workers-Robot is systematic (Discomagic) "Take a chance"... Uh, it's by some of these bands I guess: Bizzy & co. Malcolm J. Hill Mr.Flagio (my guess is it would be this. Vocoder classic...)(Squish) Klein & MBO-Dirty talk (Zanza) Doctor's cat-Feel the drive (Discomagic) "Catch"... I guess it's by Sun La Shan...? Silly song. (Superradio) -Proffit While we're on this subject: who did the electro version of "BladeRunner"? And has anybody heard the Anthony Rother CD yet? www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [313] Craig Taborn
From: "Scott MacInnis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Intermodal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [313] Craig Taborn Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:39:35 -0400 Is he the same guy that played w/Aril Brika & Spacetime?? > > Out of curiosity, what else has Taborn done outside of IO, and does he > have any releases. > take care, > mike > > Yeah, he's on Francisco Mora's album, released by Planet E "side label" Community Projects. Supposed to be a good record. Here's an All Music link to Taborn: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B215082 hope this helps Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Dj software and Recycle
I was on the verge of buying Cubase when I was shown the light that is LOGIC. The manual is scary as hell, but once you watch the thing in action it's something else. Up till now I've used outboard stuff sequenced with an MMT8 a-la-old-school, but I can't wait to get Logic and Reaktor in my Powerbook and try to get the funk a flowin'. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Previous v Present turnouts in Detroit
From: "Holly C MacDonald-Korth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Previous v Present turnouts in Detroit Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:15:48 -0400 >>>I'm certain that Derrick May didn't became didn't become to be known because of his DJ skills. The lines between musical artist and DJ once again become blurred.>>> are you kidding me? derrick has spun some of the best sets i have ever heard in my life... and he damn well better have been known for his dj skills cause he hasn't produced a record of his own in what, 10 years? have you listened to the mix-up cd? that's how he really sounds, and if he didn't, then he was having an off day... i wish he hadn't played so hard at demf, i like his salsa-ier and housier sets better, but he still rocked it... and i think he should have closed out the event, not rich.. peace, holly I second that! I had the good fortune to be in the booth watching Derrick spin a set a couple of weeks back. It was a sight to behold. And funky as hell. He rocked it. A good friend of mine, who happens to also be a very skilled DJ, was watching in awe. Said Derrick was the best techno DJ he'd ever heard/watched. You'd have to put up an extremely convincing - make it airtight- argument for me to think he's not at the top of the game. peace, Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Larry Heard "Alien" - Get It While You Can!
From: "Jorge Velez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Larry Heard "Alien" - Get It While You Can! Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 23:22:11 EDT Hey, all youse Larry Heard fans: Hurry up! Tower Records' site (www.tower.com) has got a dwindling supply of "Alien" CD's on sale for a whopping $17.99!! I ordered mine today.I think they're in extremely limited supply (unless I got the last one). Go get 'em, kids! Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Sorry. The URL should read www.towerrecords.com Jorge Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Larry Heard "Alien" - Get It While You Can!
Hey, all youse Larry Heard fans: Hurry up! Tower Records' site (www.tower.com) has got a dwindling supply of "Alien" CD's on sale for a whopping $17.99!! I ordered mine today.I think they're in extremely limited supply (unless I got the last one). Go get 'em, kids! Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313]Larry Heard!!!!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313]Larry Heard Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 19:26:07 EDT In a message dated 6/1/00 9:07:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: apparently there's a new larry heard out on moods and grooves. it's meant to be fantastic. anybody know anything about it? is it a limited editions? when is it out? james Hi-His new LP has one song that is amazing-a vocal like i have never "heard"-and gives any other vocal track a run for its money...as for the rest...it's a little light-hearted, but okay..not techy at all..a little jazzier than the law should allow...but it is worth it for the one vocal- kat,CA -Just bought the "Missing You" 12'' today. Beautiful. Side A is an almost 8 minute vocal, the B is an "Instrumental". Worth it. Find it and love it! peace, Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313]Larry Heard!!!!
Speaking of Mr. Fingers, would anyone out there be willing to share some of their Heard material with a fan? I've got "Introduction", "Dance 2000 Pt. 1" and assorted Chicago Trax stuff. Anyone have "Sceneries...", "Another View", "The It?"? peace, Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
How Many Wiggins?
Whew. I'm almost embarrassed to ask this one, but: how many versions of "Wiggin" exist? I only know of Juan Atkins' remix on "Innovator". Fiendin' for any others. And, please, cut a non-djing-D- Techno-lovin'-fool a little slack? Please? peace, JVelez www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] DEMF-Electronic FAMILY REUNION!!!!
Beautifully said. Wish I was there more and more each day. Next year. JVelez www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
From: Tom Lawton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit Techno Mailing List <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:18:35 +0100 In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] messed around with filters and compression to make the sounds now known as: >>I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. > >Speedy J? > >Ben Sims? >(not sure about Ben...) > Dave Clarke was a hip-hop DJ before he turned to all things techno, and that'd definately explain his wikkid turntablesque skills of late. TTFN, -- Tom Lawton ICQ:21604785 "A penny saved is ridiculous" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Autechre have also cited hip hop as their earliest influence, esp. Mantronix and the Mantronik produced Just Ice album. Title of this one escapes me. Was it "Back To the Old School"? One of my adolescence hallmarks (among others ;) ), listening to that stuff... Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Have Fun
Hello, all! I'm new to 313. Glad to finally make myself a part of this. I just want to wish everyone a great time at the DEMF. I envy all of you who are going. BTW, anyone from the NYC area stick around at CentroFly long enough this past Tuesday to dig Derrick May's set? Off the hook, IMHO. peace. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
