[313] nate jabbers for potentially the last time.
So hi everyone. Something I saw today astounded me. Thought maybe I could get some good conversation going before I leave 313/734/248 for the first time since I was a wee infant. Are we living in a more self-serving time? I went to Comerica Park today to see Stevie Wonder on a television perform live a few miles away. Stevie Wonder is a very rich man. Stevie Wonder has also stopped being a major creative force. Yet there was something that I witnessed that changed me. Here he was being moved to tears, thanking everyone from a woman that he created an entire album with, to a stage hand who was placing his microphone with the same enthusiasm. Everyone who came to see got down, even though we weren't even truly there. Even though he is a long way from Songs in the Key Of Life, he is an amazing performer, and a man with more soul than i could pretend to muster. Is Motown and the pop music of that era a more social and caring culture? Is Detroit techno and the pop music of our era a more introspective and personal experience? Is this why people who listen to electronic music have a hard time letting loose and getting together? No one really dances TOGETHER at raves or clubs, do they? I'm not counting slabs of beefs and people on drugs that encourage freakiness. It seems like this list likes to talk about who is on someone's nuts, or what is art, or why is some pretentious newcomer who doesn't understand the etiquette of self-promotion a chump? Did anyone ever wonder who was on Smokey Robinson's nuts? Or were people just plain content with getting the most out of this universal and beautiful music, and having a good time. Think about the difference between Stevie Wonder telling me he loves me just because I took the time to witness his art, and some of the posturing that the techno community thinks is so cool. I should've played at this festival because I taught so and so a guitar lick, or this person sucks because they are white, or this music is so overtly commercial that only idiots like you could appreciate it. Maybe I need to put some distance on 313, so that I can really digest it and create with what i've learned from it. Maybe we all need to put some distance in before we judge everyone else and act insanely hostile on a ludicrous music discussion forum. n8 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] motor virii
hey is anyone getting weird messages from motor detroit? sounds and looks like some sort of virus to me. Anyone want to contact whoever is in charge of the account. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] (don't hate me) gear fs
Hey all, sorry to bother you, but I am not a member of the tech-gear list, and I want to give my good friends of 313 a chance before I waste time with ebay. I'm moving out of michigan in 3 weeks, and I have a bunch of quirky gear for sale. Linn Drum w/ midi retrofit. My first piece of gear, this thing is absolutely badass. Has all the original chips, except for a weird but funky cabasa. This is such a great drum machine, with is individual outputs, panning, volume, for each sound. Problem is that this beast got dropped on its head a while back. The only real authorized Linn repair/modifier, Forat, quoted me as saying it could cost 100$ plus shipping to fix at the most. It's got a loose wire that's a bit messed up, and when you solder it back on, the linn will work, but can take 2-15 minutes to power up. These go from 400-550$ on ebay, so counting in repair costs, make a reasonable offer. It's in great shape other than the scratches it received when it dived off my rack. Ensoniq DP4+ fx processor. Top of the mid-range fx processors. It has 4 individual processors that can be arranged in any parallel or serial configuration. Good reverbs, weird modulations and delays, good compressors, weird nasty digital distortions. The problem here is that output 2 produces some strange intermittent white noise. It can be lessened or temporarily eliminated by playing with one of the knobs. Maybe some sort of electronics guru could quickly repair whatever sort of short is causing the noise. Since you can run fx in parallel, this unit is 3/4's perfectly functional, and the intermittant noise can be used creatively for very cool fx. It's got some rack scratches on the top and bottom. I'm asking 275$ for it. I've got a motu micro express midi interface in perfect shape. 1/2 rack space, works with mac and pc. 4in/6 out, plugs into the parallel port. 50$ I've got a 14U Peavey road rack. It's ugly, beat up, heavy, and bulky, but it has wicked rack spaces for all your gear needs. It has handles and wheels, so it might be nice for someone who isn't as frail as me. looking for 50$ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF
I thought it was a pacifier too, but in fact, it's a molecular D(z^2) orbital! /chemistry geek :D n8 I thought one of the video images looked a lot like a morphing pacifier. It was ironic b/c of the ravers there and the idea of having a pacification tool that resembles a pacifier. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf audiostream
What I saw of Eddie Fowlkes' set was like that too. He had a keyboardist and a shoutouter who showed absolutely no restraint. I do not like to see artists who I have immense respect for being upstaged to the point where I have to leave. On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The worst was during DJ Bone's set. That guy wouldn't shut up for a second! You couldn't even hear the music half the time, it was drowned out by Detroit, Detroit, DETROIT!!!... Bone, Bone, DJ Bone, Bone, Bone, DJ BONE!!. It went on and on and on... yaaawn! -J damn why in the HELL did they have people trying to MC what was an event for DJs?!? these damn whooty-whoos and get em ups during d. wynn's set are killing me - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message was sent via the Ulsternet webmail system. http://www.ulster.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] mike grant
Keen observation. On Wed, 30 May 2001, Giles Dickerson wrote: He was in the military. // giles Rob Theakston wrote: i'm surprised no one has mentioned this, but i thought one of the coolest things AT the festival itself was Mike Grant's salute to all the veterans on Memorial Day. i thought it was a very classy move by one of the kindest guys on the scene. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] and God said unto Carol Marvin
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[313] my boring take on the fhttp://demf
Hey all, Interesting weekend. John Acquaviva is quite a character. I thoroughly enjoyed his set except for the parts where he played 5 horrible records in a row. Two things though... I think Shades of Jae is probably the ONLY Detroit techno classic that can seriously piss off a crowd. I swear it's the anti-Spaztic. He also totally amazed me with that Plus 8-y track with the waterfall sample that morphed into synth. Can anyone ID that? Not only was it wicked, but it summoned the heaviest rain of Sunday. : Inner City was marvelous. I was thinking they'd be way too deep for people who didn't know where they were coming from. They had it all though. Presence, crowd involvement, and those catchy, wicked, and sometimes deliciously cheezy songs. Everytime I hear big fun and good life I sort of regret my musical upbringing. My sister owned all the inner city stuff of cassette, and I wonder what I'd be like now if I had appreciated Inner City, Eazy-E, and New Order, instead of listening to all of that corporate rock garbage in the late 80's early 90's.. but hey, I was just a kid. Juan didn't disappoint one bit either. With him staring down one of the more evil red/brown/black skies I've ever seen, he mixed well, made a mockery out of No UFO's, and got me dancing the hardest I did all weekend. I was disappointed with the festival in general, not because of Carol Marvin or Ford, but for wholly personal reasons I guess. I maybe got to spend 12 hours total at the festival, and didn't have the energy for afterparties. Last year, it seemed like a gigantic techno family, and this year, I barely saw any 313'ers I knew, and didn't get to meet any new ones. I think I was just always in the wrong place at the wrong time. Poor me, but I wanted it to be a sort of techno send-off before I move out of metro-Detroit for good in August... you can't always get what you want. n8 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Read the Carl Craig Link....
One makes cars, the other pop stars. On Thu, 24 May 2001, xx xx wrote: Is there any difference between Ford and MTV ? Need your thoughts From: Zak-a -licious!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Read the Carl Craig Link Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:51:56 - Read the CARL CRAIG link...sorry should have been MORE specific http://www.mtv.com/sendme2.tin?page=/news/headlines/ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] from DEMF schedule
Speaking of Bacardi, I guess I didn't drink, or I don't recollect, but what was the alcohol like at last years festival? Was there none at all? Seems to me like that would be a major reason why there weren't any incidents at last year's fest. I can't wait for drunk frat boys to be spilling their beer on me and cursing autechre hey you homos, where's the steady beat? or yelling at Juan Atkins to spin some skynrd man!!! Bell's (TM) Porter: The official beer of Nate DeYonker (TM) n8 On Fri, 18 May 2001, M Elliot-Knight wrote: What is this on Sunday @ 20:00 on the Ba...I can't help but laugh when I think about this...the Bacardi stage? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is there any 313 inspired Club Nights in Singapore?
Don't know if that message was meant to be private, cause I haven't been following the thread, but it's funny you mention Sense, as Mike and I are old friends of his. Once in a while for the 6-7 years I've been on the list, people have batted around Adam Raisbeck's name as someone to look out for, but I think with these upcoming releases, he'll finally get the credit he deserves. Sense makes music that has really tapped how gorgeous electronic music can be. Thanks for the vote of confidence in Tim's work and my label. :) I have been traveling around China and Singapore for the last 5 weeks but the day before I left I picked up 500 cd's of the next release on my label Fourier Transformations by Sense. This CD is amazing (I would say that after all but this one I am really proud to release on my label). Though don't take me word go read: http://www.igloomag.com/document.php?task=viewid=154category=profiles - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] john arnold discography for Graham
Are you replying to all on purpose? On Thu, 3 May 2001, john arnold wrote: Hey Matt, #3 is the last release. #4 is new, but I don't have any white labels yet. Just call me and I will play you the c.d. I think you live like two blocks down the street from me. You can come by one day and I will let you check it out. Peace, john From: Matthew Gerbasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] john arnold discography for Graham Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:25:31 -0400 John is number 3 on your list your latest release??? and if #4is coming out around DEMF than I want you to know that I am doing a new release dicography/review of detroit and DEMF artist for Shovlin at Motormouth.we are going to have a 5' 7 glossy mag out during the festival..anyway let me know if I can get a copy of #4 or at least a taste of what it is about so that my write-up can be accurate.. peace matthew Matthew Gerbasi |l| Darcy Detroit lll Cadillac Regional Traffic|l| 248-458-8567|l| [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eliminate your ego by having self confidence without pride -- Basi john arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/03/01 01:19PM Hello Graham, Yes, I am making a lot of music. Here it is: 1.Carl Craig Onsumothasheeat-Shadow Records(Track #2) 2.Loqate Miracles Recloose remix-Ubiquity Records 3.John Arnold Sparkle E.P.-Fragile Records #18 4.John Arnold 4 Minutes E.P.-Fragile(Out late May) 5.Earth 4-John Beltran feat. Sol Set Aztec Girl-Good Looking Records 6.Detroit Esc. Co. Black Buildings-Peacefrog Records 7.John Beltran Americano-Exceptional Records(Out this Summer) (I have a guest appearance on this with Ibex and I play guitar on two tracks) 8.Blackman and Arnold Live-Complex Records Keep an eye out for this stuff Graham. peace, ja From: graham [tan] wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: john arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] neil ollivierra Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:35:01 - john arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It is really good to see someone talking about Neil. He actually does not work at Transmat anymore. He was there pretty much from the beginning though. i think he is an incredible artist that is serverely under-rated. excerpts is one of the most moving albums ever. that record. He was always really into my music, but unfortunatly as my first fragile release came out, Neil left the label to pursue other interests. Pick up Black Buildings, it is wicked. Also, Neil's brother Tony has records out on Planet e, under the name IBEX. yup yup.. will have a look for it.. i've got soundtrack 313 and excerpts.. love them both. are you still making tunes? graham -- graham [tan] wilson - because i got it like that [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fnord.fishwerx.org/tan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TEXT.htm _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] The Involve Records North American Tour: Detroit
Tomorrow night (may 2) On Wed, 2 May 2001, dj revolver wrote: when is this? (date?) Current Presents The Involve Records North American Tour: Detroit Aspen(Involve Records, New Zealand) Live PA Signer(Involve Records, New Zealand) Live PA Isol(Involve Records, New Zealand) Live PA Bill Vanloo(Chromedecay, Detroit) Live PA Doors are at 8pm, and admission is $7, this is an all ages show. The Detroit Contemporary Gallery is located at: 5141 Rosa Parks Boulevard, Detroit USA _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] tech-no at DEMF?
No kidding. People get ulcers about music discussion. It happens everywhere and I don't really understand it. Talking about T1000 is boring, and trying to figure out people's rationale is boring too. What I'd like to see is perhaps people reviewing some of these things on their top ten lists. Talking positively about music is what makes me not hit the delete key. n8 the last person who will never be a dj on earth. On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Lorie R wrote: - Original Message - From: Batory, Jason Ego is a dirty word. Respect JasonB dood... the E in ChrisE stands for sExxE- ChrisE not Ego. Its an email list..not a serious heart attack. If one post on an emailing list ruins someones day. issues. Some of you fellers make me laugh. Lorie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] in an attempt....
1 - 8. Amnesiac - Radiohead 9. Keyboard King of Studio One - Jackie Mittoo 10. Cumbia Jazz Fusion - Charles Mingus Everything else is just not study music. On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Rob Theakston wrote: to get everyone off the whiny why aren't they playing posts and wasting bandwidth. i'm starting a new topic. what's your top ten right now?
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
I can get you started with a few obvious ones. I'll start with a Planet E compilation called Elements of and experiments with sound released in 1994. Mode Selector-F.Flowers Fanon Flowers is still around and kicking. I'm not sure that he's based in Detroit anymore. He used to be an Ypsi native. He's made all sorts of great hard techno records and wowed people at the last demf. I have one of his 12's on the konsequent label, and he used to run Mechanism Industries. Flexitone-G.Donald, B.Gillen I always thought Flexitone was just Brendan, but Mr Gillen is the main brain behind Ectomorph. G Donald, I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you. I'm sure people can help you out more, but it's really no wonder that people sort of surface and drop off the face of the earth. They get jobs, go to school, move out of the 313/248/810/734, have to sell their gear, get married, etc. There are countless reasons many great unknown producers put out one record and then just run out of time to make music. Dare I call myself even a good producer, I may be in the same boat when I head off to grad school in august : n8
I:cube at demf
Very excited to see him. Does he play live or dj usually? How does he sound?
Re: [313] Freep Article
hahaha!!! awesome! I think that's the first time the 313 list has been quoted in a Detroit paper. Too bad the quote was from a sleazy troll. On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else read this in today's Freep? http://www.freep.com/entertainment/index.htm hope this link works...article titled 'world takes notice of electronic music event' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] fat new techno!!!!
Hi Tim, last time I checked, the only reason that someone has been blacklisted from 313 is for posting private emails. Here's a link to a webpage about netiquette: http://www.rdc.com.au/Netiquette.html On 29 Mar 2001, TIMOTHY JOHNSON wrote: Duely noted, Ani, thanks for your politeness. Since you work at Record time, how about letting me in on how I can sell my records at your store, once I get them pressed. www.mp3.com/wraith313 hi timothy, just wanted to let you know that most people interpret messages in caps to be 'yelling'. the people on the 313 list are usually kind of sensitive to that kind of thing... just keep in mind that there are 'techno snobs' on the list that aren't very open to opinions that go against what the heads like. and they're usually picky about netiquette (like the caps thing). don't worry, most of them write bad stuff about me :) ani record time [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.recordtime.com ph 810.775.1550 fax 810.775.5830 icq# 33610265 want to be on the record time mailing list? send an email message from the address you want to subscribe with subscribe in the subject - Original Message - From: TIMOTHY JOHNSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@HYPERREAL.ORG Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [313] fat new techno THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE I CAN'T FIND NO DECENT TECHNO POST. I JUST SCREWED UP THE SUBJECT LINE. THANKS FOR YOUR DUMB COMMENT THOUGH. THAT ALWAYS HELPS... iT'S ALL ABOUT THE FAT BEATS. AND THE FILTERS. BUILD-UPS RULE yes yes, very clever. or something. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] D?EMF Line-Up
Fatboy Slim I'll believe it when I see it. Moby Well... Moby is a techno superstar. He'll be responsible for bringing in a much wider audience to the festival, much like the Roots and Richie Hawtin were to do last year. I'm not going to go poison Carl Craig's cereal over this. I'll know pretty quickly whether or not Moby is going to impress me, then I'll go over to the less crowded stages. I honestly think that a hard core Moby fan is much more likely to be blown away by UR, Interdimensional Transmissions, or any of the Force Inc/Mille Plateux stuff rumored to be appearing than a hard core Blink 182 fan. Carl Cox I'm interested in seeing Mr Cox too. Always controversial on this list, but I hear he can rock it on a good night. What better night for a good night than the DEMF? Laurent Garnier I like Laurent Garnier. He was supposed to play at the first DEMF. and i'm also told several Planet E acts! god forbid! How anti-Detroit can you [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you boo Jason Hogans and Recloose off the stage last year? Veering off course my little white booty. Just sounds like the crowd-drawing acts are more mainstream. I'm still gonna have a good time. n8
RE: [313] D?EMF Line-Up
I'll show you proof. I've got a pic of Carl, Moby, and Diana smooching over drinks at Legends. email me for details. On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Andrew Wilson wrote: :::I have VERY RELIABLE sources that have informed me of who is and isn't :::playing this years D?EMF(as in Detroit??? Electronic Music Festival). :::According to my sources there were originally NO Detroit DJs :::scheduled to :::play the main stage at all this year! and apparently Carl Craig has decided to make a whole heap of eurotrance tunes and plans to sign Eiffel 65 and the Britney Spears to planet e PUHlease!!! can people do as diana potts asked and wait until the press conference b4 telling everyone they have reliable sources if they were that reliable then you'd tell us who said them and show us some proof andrew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: DEMF Press Conference
Maybe Carl will announce the lineup in alphabetical order, so then if he says Mike Banks or Mike Ink, I'll be cheering too hard to care. not that i'm going to the conference. :D n8 On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, stephen wrote: According to the DEMF website, the press conference for the artist lineup and festival activities is this Thursday (5.29) at Detroit City Hall. Are there any list members who plan on attending? Yes I can see it now, the name Moby coming out of Carl Craig's mouth as 313 list members cheer and applaud with approval. np: next is the, next is the, next is the, E. ugh..ugh..ugh..ugh.. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Drexciya was Venue Info
d. thong, Ani is very right. The reason that people create so much mystery behind their names is because they consciously decide to remain anonymous. I don't know how publishing/licensings work in this case, since I have never released a record anonymously, but I am sure that the artists in question are in no more danger of having someone make tone by tone covers of their tracks than someone who puts their full name on their albums. If you mean credit from the fans, many artists are content enough knowing that people out there are wanting to release, purchase, say good things about their art. Dipthong said: Then maybe you could get credit for your own werk. To me (and i'm sure allot of others) these groups above are all the werk of the same person/persons. At least that's the concensus.
Re: oh, mysterious drexciya
It's been covered about 30 times since I joined this list. I do know who they are. I'm not getting pissed off, merely explaining to someone who is confused as to why they would remain anonymous. Your attitude is annoying. On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: d. thong, Ani is very right. The reason that people create so much mystery behind their names is because they consciously decide to remain anonymous. hasn't this been covered excessively on this list already? obviously the artists and anyone else who actually knows drexciya's true mysterious identity aren't planning to reveal this information any time soon. So stop wasting your time getting all pissed off about it. besides, you all know you want to know just as bad as the people who ask.
yay uk
My first trip to see how the other half lives was a lot of fun. Visiting my brother and being a tourist and all that, so I only got to see one 313-ish related event. I checked out Andy Weatherall and Keith Tenniswood DJ on Friday night. Andy played some really nice banging techno, but the highlight was Keith. I have been dating the same girl for almost two years, and this is the first time with the exception of the DEMF that I have witnessed her dance her ass off. It takes a lot, trust me. He played probably the best electro set I've seen yet, and then played live for an hour as Radioactive Man. Very warped and highly melodic stuff. Don't miss the swordsmen, please. n8
Re: [313] ...this
Speaking of this, it kind of irks me that people maul and maim you from the first peep, but are too afraid to even politely address people with status who do the same kind or worse self-promotion. Things have been good on the list for the past few weeks, so... maybe flaming you for poops and giggles isn't the best way to get threads going. I'm not honking my own horn here, I really think many who diss just because I'm the toneshifting extraordinaire are dissing a little too soon. But I suppose this is what you all like to do, some 313ers seems hard nosed just because it proper or something, cool, no bother to me, just a little confusing and certainly disenchanting at times...
Mr. Delay
I got the Vladislav Delay CD on Mille Plateaux anima Anyone have any info on this album? It's one track and 70+ minutes long. Is it a live set?
Re: [313] interesting....
Carl Craig will have the last laugh after the Undersea Electronic Music Festival (with a certain duo headlining) On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just in a chat I go in to and here was the topic: Topic is '313@hyperreal.org seems to completely lack the ability to sense sarcasm.' Set by j3s on Mon Feb 19 18:02:43 -Lorie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] JEFF MILLS-MARCH 1
I'm glad you've had fun. I'm glad I have respect for those who show respect in the first place. I'm glad I am ignorant enough to show others that they need more respect, despite it being all that hypocritical. Your flames make me feel like I'm in 8th grade on BBS's listening to a bunch of middle schoolers insult each other. I'm pretty sure Mr. Oldham can stick up for himself. I do know however this list has turned to sh*t since Alan stopped posting and the influx of advertisements and utter BS began. In truth I would much rather be up on someone's nuts in fervent RESPECT, than to be there simply to ogle and act like I know what I'm talking about. Up on someone's nuts in fervent respect? You have a much different sense of respect than I do. Alan has had nothing to do with the crap quality of this list. Don't forget that Alan left this list when it started to attain its taste of spam that it has right now instead of trying to change the subjects, or trying to enforce some netiquette. Just because someone puts out a lot of records and has a long history as a figure in the culture doesn't mean they say and do everything right. Having someone respecting their nuts doesn't really help get things on the right track, either.
Re: [313] Re: Jazz IS the Teacher
I'm not a Ken Burns' afficianado by any means, but this sounds like a total cop out. If Mr. Burns neglected to talk about people like Kirby Puckett and Pete Rose in his baseball documentary, I'll give that statement credit. If not, he's a raging hypocrite and not a historian. n8 Ken Burns: Yes, very much so, and we think quite effectively. Though I tend to agree with your viewpoint of it. The article in USA TODAY listed but a fraction of the movements, areas and types of jazz that we cover. However, this is a history, and so the bulk of our series is pre-1970. I consider the modern era the province of contemporary critics and journalists. Not enough water has passed under the bridge to make historical judgements of the past 30 years.
Re: [313] 15% pitch control
It also showed the fact that you and about 15 other people like to post to 313 once every 22 seconds. On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, darw_n wrote: I like to put it in-between my peppermint jam records and my freaky chakra stuff... (that was a piss poor attempt to show that I don't care what's cool and what's not, nor do I stick to one style, not sure if it worked though;) darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.thedemonstration.com http://www.sphereproductions.com http://www.mannequinodd.com search djdarwin on napster - Original Message - From: joshtwentythree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [313] 15% pitch control I find myself putting all my swedish techno in another crate and forgetting I played it currently...;) josh23 --- darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think things are slowing down... I find myself playing swedish tracks on like -6... __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Derek Plaslaiko please stand up. everyone else, don't.
Derek: send me an email. sorry for bandwidth all others :
new wave hot dogs
Well, I've picked up some records! Glory be! I have some really fun things on the electro/new wave tip. Has Fischerspooner been mentioned before? I finally picked up their full length self-titled LP. They're kind of like Abba and Adult. combined with a little more DSP idm-ish wizardry. This CD is so good I can't even begin to describe it, but I just did. I also got John Callaghan's new EP You've got your memories, I've got my Dreams on Warp. Very weird business. A cut up sexy track with a lot of moaning and the word blood once in a while. Cute synth pop, and a very bizarre bad video game track. Also listening to Landcruising for the time right now. I'm pretty sure Carl Craig knocking me on my ass head over heels in love with Detroit techno would've happened about 1.5 years earlier if someone had played me this album when it came out. Yay for music! n8
DEMF demos?
Hey all, the music fest is less than 5 months away. I seem to recall a mass mailing from planet e for those who wanted to perform last year. Where do demos go to this year? thanks n8
Re: [313] RE: OT/Gear talk?? Probs??
Hey Dave, OT stands for off-topic. Yes, the list is about 313 music and culture, so 313 musicmaking, and 313 musicmaking culture are going to fit in there somewhere. However, it's off-topic and frowned upon because the majority of list members are not musicmakers. To these people, conversations about musicmaking intricacies becomes pure filller. I'm not a DJ, so I know talking about the finer details of djing will make my eyes glaze over and my finger triggerhappy over the D-key. What is probably more appropriate is asking the list about a specific question, and taking it privately with people who can help. One email is much more fun than 30 emails and then 20 more about how gear is off topic. Not that I'm the king of netiquette... but even better places to talk about gear are IRC/ICQ/IM, because you can get instantaneous feedback if you're stuck on something, or get into more heated debates. I think a big reason that gear lists get so stale so quickly, is because email isn't the best method of discussing how to be creative. Much more fun to be on the phone or in the room. That and mp3.com spam :D phew... n8 np: Ion. Dale, I forgot what a great album this is to study to. cursed physics. On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, David Bitterman wrote: Does OT stand for over technical or something? I would hope there wouldn't be to much of a problem with this on a techno music chat list. I understand how it could get annoying and that this list is a more conceptual one. It's just that I find to many of the gear lists to be dry, and too many people post links to mediocre music. Not that I'm claiming anything of myself here, but it would be nice to be able to have some gear chat in a more mutually understanding and respectful forum. Just my two cents. Peace- DBIT http://www.music-in-formation.com vr 2.0 coming in the new year. New interface. No more long intros. Content is king. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
women in electronic music
Who was it that was doing some sort of academic work on women making techno? bekka? Anywho, I came across a pretty nice site. I like the design, and it's not perhaps as perfectly underground as humanly possible, but who cares. They do a spot on one of my musical heros, Nicole Elmer, too. http://www.pinknoises.com/
Re: [313] top 10 TECHNO djs international
Uh oh, Nan. Your welcome may be short lived :D Check the archives, as we had this argument a month or two ago and it sent everyone into massively uptight mode. Haven't been out in a long time. Looking forward to some of the up and coming events at motor. I buy records and hide in my bedroom. A lot of the music I like to support and tell people about are people who have had a profound influence on my production and music career. Chris Gray is getting his next LP together for release sometime next year, Bill VanLoo is making excellent detroit music, and longtime supporter Adam Raisbeck is finally getting high profile releases under the name Sense with Australia's Aural Industries and Neo-Oujia in the UK. Adam makes detroit-y idm goodness. Long subtle beautiful songs. On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, nan mitchell wrote: I am curious about everyones top 10 techno djs ? and the top 10 techno djs we should be looking out for ( up and coming) ? next: top 10 up and coming techno producers? = ***saRu maNe***tm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
313 off the beaten path.
Some of the places I may be attending graduate school at next year aren't exactly places where new genres of music and style have been born. I'm wondering if any listmembers are near: Lawrence, KS Hanover, NH Seattle, WA Athens, GA and can tell me about the electronic music scenes there. You can actually email me about any types of interesting music coming from these places, but perhaps reply privately :) n8
Re: [313] True People: Detroit Techno Comp, Pacou, Rob Hood
Interesting and optomistic post, Stacey... I wish I had been there to see Rob Hood, since he put on such a fantastic show at I/o many many months back. I don't see how anyone could have such a disdain for a techno artist doing covers. Sounds like a homage to the things that make Mr. Hood tick, and I bet it was incredible fun to put that set together. Anyone who likens it to classic rock doing covers and furrowing their brows at it might take things to seriously. It's not like Green Velvet and Farben are both putting out 12's of the Rolling Stones' Start Me Up... I think it's pretty clever of someone in dance music to do this. As for the dissection of music, this list is often the later that you speak of. Since criticism tends to weigh on the side of negative in our culture, it might seem like when someone has a lot to say about a performance, it implies that they disliked it. I'm not sure that's necessarily true. We're all just trying to chat it up. I like this discussion a lot more than drug problems and architecture. Thinking the opposite way, The Dylan Group is an instrumental rock group that covered Aphex Twin's classic We are the musicmakers with bass guitar/vibraphone/drums. Very cool... n8 On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well his remixes of the covers were definetly great. I feel that his sister's vocals and his production put the original Greatest Dancer by I believe Sister Sledge to shame. Rob was not playing in front of a panel that would be picking apart his music and making connections such as how covers are related to rock sets or if doing covers is innovative or not. just enjoy the music while ur hearing it and disect it if you want later. -Stacey
Re: [313] True People: Detroit Techno Comp
Hey Mike, Well.. I can certainly see people viewing it as a disappointment, but when I bought this comp back in late 96, it became my first who's-who names-to-faces piece of detroit techno. Sentimental value... it's got the stars on it for sure. At the time, the two(three) biggest detroit artists I was getting into were Claude Young and Drexciya. The tracks by both are hideous. Still the worst tracks I've ever heard by them. Not a big fan of Saunderson's E-Dancer either. This comp definately got me into Eddie Fowlkes. He's got two great tracks on there, one of which is this slurpy happy pre-klang IDM track that makes me pump my fist into the air 4 years later. Classics like D. May's wiggin, Pullen's 8th Wonder Pennington's Art of Stalking Cool stuff by T-1000, Shake, Keith Tucker, ... first time I had heard actual tracks by those 3. Blake Baxter's where's the love rocks hard with extremely tactful 303 usage. :) the good old days before all the animal porn, heroin addiction, and Mills/Oakenfold love children. n8 On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I believe that this comp came out in 1996 on Sony/React. I do not know for sure if it is in print or not, but I would bet that it isn't. I have not heard this comp in years, but I remember it as being a disappointment. Anybody care to comment?
Re: [313] True People: Detroit Techno Comp
It's the sound of an overused instrument being used in a really great sounding way. On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Hugh G. Blaze wrote: Blake Baxter's where's the love rocks hard with extremely tactful 303 usage. What exactly is tactful 303 usage. Enlighten me. (Not to sound curt, but, I'm not looking for a defination of what a tb-303 is, or acid house, or trance anthems either.) _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
was Re: [313] quick note...is Scandanavia
hahaha! Really though... I agree with Mr Mike Taylor. This list starts to go down the tubes when there's more talking about talking about music than there is talking about music. Shut up already : Anywho, there's some pretty fun stuff going on at Motor in the next couple days. Rob Hood's gonna rock out twice in one night. Neil Landstrumm's coming, too. Does anyone know if he's playing live or djing? Either way, is he doing the digital madness now? Or is his stuff still funky and danceable (hopefully both :) n8 On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, holly c macdonald-korth wrote: darw_n said, at the end of _another_ post: But now I must say, I have to leave for a couple days to play some records, so next week... thank god. maybe now i may receive an interesting email. xoxoxo, h - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dancefloor friendly?
A weird question! Have you spun out at clubs/raves/house parties? What do your friends say when you show your skills to them? If people are giving you enough feedback then you should already know the answer :) Pick up one or two detroit records and try to weave them in. See what people think. Look up while you are spinning! On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Jon Schoning wrote: I've been spinning house and techno with some sucess but i can't keep myself away from the older detroit labels like Red Planet and Transmat. I desprately want to start spinning this music but i have no idea if it is dancefloor friendly, which is important if i'm going to spend a lot of $$ on it. Does anyone have any experience in using this music to move a party or is it just becoming home-listening stuff (hopefully not)? Also have a lot of the same questions about electro... If yes, can someone point me to the direction of some essential tunes every detroit techno DJ must have? -Jon Schoning - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Minneapolis vs Detroit
Why hit ya privately? : These are legit topics! Chris Sattinger rules. I think he's more concentrating on his IDM material nowadays. He's done a pretty crazy release that I enjoy as Timeblind on Kit Clayton's Orthlorng Musork (sp) label. I thought he put out something new last year around DEMF time on Black Nation? Changing subjects: If people had to pick between forevernevermore and mahogany brown, which would you buy and why? Maybe this can be private to me, since I know the rabidity of 313ers about KDJ. Also, non 313 related... BMG's latest article in the metro times mentions the Schematic people coming to Motor. Phoenicia live makes me go unf! but Mr gillen fails to mention a date that this is happening. Anyone? Once upon a time..there were people in Minneapolis doing some good music.. People like DJ Slip..Chris Sattinger..and Woody Mc Bride.. I wonder what happened to these cats..Communique site be down.. Have they all moved to dirty, low NYC and became superstar DJ's like Keoki? Any Minneapolis folks here? Hit me privately
Re: [313] spam
Ummm.. NO. It's not a good idea to put spam in the header. Because I could put spam in my header and flood the 313 list with porn links and information about amazon.com and everyone would be happy with me? I'm sort of from the days of the list where I had to grudgingly accept the occasional advertisement/playlist for web radio shows. ugh! Anyway, I think if you have an ACTUAL release for sale or you are performing somewhere, you have the right to share your achievements with us. The progress of the list members as musicmakers is very important to me to this degree. Because mp3.com in my opinion is a scam, and full of so much garbage, I get wary and angry over the incessant check out my tracks on mp3.com posts! The acidplanet contest, which I did not give a rat's ass about, I think has made me go off the deep end about this subject. It got to the point where people were like yay, i turned on my gear today and didn't really make any tracks, but check out my cool new stuff for the redux contest. Ok, if something like that happens again, how about you post that you are entering the contest, and then if we have any interest in the contest, we'll probably check the site for new stuff eh? jesus... mr. revolver compiling links I think is a fantastic idea. If he or someone else has time, I saw a great idea where there was a webpage with a form where you could type in who you are, what kind of tracks you do, and links to the tracks. You could go back in and hit an update button whenever you changed your site or added new tracks, and it would say if and when a site was updated on the main page. This way all of you can leave me the hell alone. Not only is all this rubbish off topic, but I think it's been destroying this list for about 2 months. n8 i don't have any trouble with someone posting links to their music, playlists etc..i think this is what this list is all about, ie: not just sterile intellectual musings on techno. I think its a good habit for posters to state *spam* in the subject.
Re: [313] (even more spam)
you may disagree Todd, but if Mr Atkins, Mills or May posted a link to free mp3s i do not think you would be so quick to complain. Well, I think if Mr. Atkins posted often enough about his free mp3's or about how his music is charting on some obscure websites/radio station, I'd get pissed off. It all brings back to my constructive suggestion that maybe we could have some communal webspace where people who are INTERESTED could seek out 313 musicmaking instead of having it shoved into our faces 20 times a week. i wonder if the people complaining make music themselves? yes. my debut release may in fact be coming out today. Feel free to email me for details.
antispam?
Here's my idea.. http://www.bogdanraczynski.com/mp3-form.php bogdan is a Rephlex artist. his website has a discussion board that was a spam-fest. Ever since the mp3-links page has been made, spamola has disappeared. this is idm territory, so if you don't care, don't blame me if you check out the rest of the site Here you type in the blah blah about your music. Perhaps a seperate form could be made for people with radio shows. one link to the show/station and a second to their playlist. http://www.bogdanraczynski.com/mp3.php Links go here, we could have flags settable if your site is updated. This part could be made a lot prettier, with oneline descriptions and a bigger than 6 point font when viewing in netscape :) God forbid people would have to be proactive about checking the site to see what new stuff people are doing, but if someone is curious enough to join this list wanting to learn about detroit techno, then they are going to check out a site compiling everything list members do. Trouble is, my HTML skills are absolute zero. I can temporarily or permanently host this if someone else wants to code away. n8
Re: [313] Fw: (G-TECH) dylan drazen Top 11 for week of 11/15/00
I don't get it. Lots of 4/4 techno music I'll never hear? On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Christian Bloch wrote: pay atention to #7 ;) Top 11 for week of 11/15/00 Techno Rino Cerrone - Optical Way EP - Relentless Karius Baktus - Bandsalat - 3D Asem Shama - Over Fiend EP - Core Thomas Schreiber - Girl EP - Anlx Shag + Beat Council - Strike - Chronobrain Elastik Trikery - 4 Neil EP - Insert Christian Bloch - Refuse - Simple Muzik Access 58 - Visions EP - On Test Do you like the way you feel when you shake? - A Squared Thomas Gwosdz - Gesellenstuecke - Schnittstelle Sump Pump - Frontal Assaults - Colours Ko-Ta - Private Tools EP - Stratosphere Gil - Noise Shaping - Spiritual Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seafoam
Not at all 313 related, but I've got this person's first record on Guidance and it smokes... Weird curveballs and breakdowns, and a really nice chicago feel. Any one heard his new one on guidance or know any other labels he's released on?
Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION
rhymes with carcasm On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, FRED MCMURRY wrote: Ford owns Jaguar automobiles as well as some others (Volvo, Autin Marten, Mazda...) but why the hell would they put a Jaguar on their Ford brand cars? That's like putting a Rolls Royce label on a Toyota. Does it have anything to do with the UR tune? I couldn't see them really trying to connect on this level. It's just too deep a connection (Detroit Techno = UR's Jaguar) for a company to try and market it this way. Doesn't make sense. Fred From: *** ASKEW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FOCUS DETROIT TECHNO/STREET EDITION Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:05:09 GMT defragged wrote: Focus and Street Edition will feature an image exclaiming Detroit Techno on posters and in print ads. The Street Edition is the third in a series of Focus statement cars built since Focus was launched in the U.S. last year. The Sony Limited Edition Focus and the Kona Mountain Bike Edition were the first two statement cars. Apparently the 'Sony Ltd. Edition' Focus features European styling, 'Jaguar' badges (in place of Ford badges) and is decked out in British racing green. But, I hear the highway performance is disappointing compared to the Detroit Techno/Street Edition. awareness, interest, desire, action, satisfaction ~Askew _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] OT: Propellerheads:Reason Soft Synth
The reviewer of this says Adam Douglas only needs one reason to pick up Reason: it looks awesome. Notice he says it LOOKS awesome. I've heard on some of the musicmaking lists I belong to (where I know this would be more appropriate) that Reason has been indefinately delayed. With Reaktor, Max, Nord Modulars putting out the raw power, and VST2 plugins that out-pretty Rebirth, I'd say the second coming of Propellerheads' rave-o-lution is a mess. On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, darw_n wrote: these things are getting kinda crazy... http://formen.ign.com/news/26672.html darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Top Ten Techno Tracks ???
Didn't we have this thread last month and it made me want to blow my brains out? Or was that Top ten Dj's? On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, McCartha, Merrick wrote: I would like to resume my techno record collection. What are the top ten techno records in Detroit?.(According to DJs) MORPHEUS: It's that feeling you have had all your life. That feeling that something was wrong with the world. You don't know what it is but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad... ..But what is it? -- The Matrix * Merrick McCartha Design Engineer Space Electronics Inc. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 503-3420 Fax: (858) 503-3301 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
So basically summing up your reply to Mike, all you have to add to this thread is belittling Mike's long, thoughtful message. Even though Mike is offering a great deal of generalizations and minimizations, what he is saying is a personal opinion. People seem to think you can cover all of the bases and have some sort of perfect discussion full of examples/counterexamples, and exceptions. The reality of argument isn't really like that though. So jumping on Mike's ass and offering idiotic one-liners to waste the bandwidth of the list isn't going to make arguing anymore perfect. Yes, hugh, you are exactly right. music is music, and you can't color music. You certainly CAN however, color the politics of music, and the business of music. The culture of music can also be colored by the aforementioned business and politics. This is the point I believe Mike is trying to make. That's kinbd of an over-generalization. I know a lot of people who *only* go there if there's someone playing that they want to hear. He played some pretty good tracks last Sat., man. That's 100% true and I don't think many people would disagree with you. I thought music was music. Didn't know you can color sound. Wow you're jaded. And all in 10 years or less, huh.
Re: [313] tadd mullinix...new skool
I finally got to hear this album in its entirety and I think it is a fantastic piece of work. Whereas Autechre seems to put the crazy broken beats on the forefront, and have the melodies and harmonies in the background, Tadd seems to take the opposite approach while keeping the emotion of Autechre's best works. This CD also has an upbeatness that Autechre and their clones don't have or perhaps even wish for. It's a refreshing 50 minutes of sound. Mr. Mullinix is only going to get better, and this inspires me quite a bit. I believe Tadd quite a bit responsible for sparking my personal love for music. My appreciation for techno, soul, jazz, and rock n roll, all began by borrowing cd's from this guy and taking my first trips down to record time with him way back in high school. It makes me happy to see his profile rising, and people realizing what a talented individual he is. n8 Doing something I have not yet hear come from Detroit, Tad strongly refelects the school of Warp and IDM Detroit fans on the CD. Broken noises layered with broken beats sounds, the influence of british idm combined with detroit obscurity is reprezented.(yo:). Not to mention a fancy dancy pict of Tadd inside. For a debut, the art and design is done professional and well done. The release party is Saturday October 14th at Motor 9-2am David Alvarado Mathew Dear and Tadd Mullinex w/ Carlos Souffront Todd Osborn in the study. support the local. yos d _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig/Moodymann in NYC : Opinions?
Sounds like you aren't letting someone assert their opinion. Seems like there's a lot of that on the list today. So sloppy in execution? what did they think it was a gymnastics meet? Its no wonder that people like that make comments like that when they come to events like that and expect to see an MTV stage show. Maybe next time carl or kenny play we could ask the NYC ballet to dance around them to mask the sloppiness and help out their execution. Vez _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I seek the power of the horse
Hey all, sorry to bother. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether Mr. Steve Lammers is back from Europe. Also, I have misplaced his home phone number, so any help on the would be appreciated. n8
Re: [313] TR-606 VS. TR-707
Mind you, a 707 is MIDI, which makes it a great first piece of equipment for a techno musician to be. 606's have to worry about sync boxes, kenton, and all that expensive add-on stuff. And yes, the 606 is more expensive due to its better sounds, cuteness, and modifiability. The 707 couldn't control a sedated lobotomy outpatient. It can only sequence other midi instruments in song mode, which is the main reason I sold mine. Also mind you, Mike Taylor should soon be chiming in about how gear discussion should be moved to his email list because that's not what 313 is for. Lastly mind you, Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut is an amazing book. On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Ted Weinberg wrote: You mentioned price as a concern, and I thought I'd add that the 606 tends to go for about U$100 more on average than the 707, but you should be able to find one for around U$250. I wouldn't pay more than $150 for a 707, if that. I agree that the 606 is superior. As someone else said, the 707 is more useful as a controller. = oo00oOo0Oooo00oOo0ooOoOo0O0oO0o0oO000o0oOoOOoo0o00oOooOooOo \/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] oo http://www.lucidmultimedia.com/ignatius/ The Final Church of The Naughty Apocalypse UU We're high on tech, we're making digital friends ___/===\_/--\___/\__/=\__/== __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom
I would disagree. Experimentation does not exist. I think this attitude is pretty harsh and stuck up. By using the same logic, you could say that Charles Mingus isn't experimental. After all, the double-bass had been around for centuries before him, as did the keys and chords that he used. It isn't as if he singlehandedly invented jazz, right? I think a more laidback and encouraging attitude would be to say that almost anything with soul is experimental. Take the Detroit Grand PuBahs. They're using booty, detroit techno, and dub, and taking the piss out of it. Having fun and seeing how far they can go. Like it or not musically, (and I am nearer to the not), I'd say they are putting their heart into it, having a blast, and expanding the horizons of the music coming out of our city. Respectable, IMO. I try to not be so inclusive as to what I consider experimental, and it benefits my art and my dealings with others greatly. Micho makes good music, and does it in his own quirky little way. Manipulating the guts of musical equipment, nonmusical equipment, pyrotechnics, etc. are not considered experiments? I think you have pretty high standards, Jared. Then using such a rude term as reinventing the wheel and excusing yourself by saying no offense I just want some discourse. Remember that sinewaves, quadrophenia, and room tone aren't exactly inventing new forms of wheels, either. Perhaps you could give us some more concrete examples of what experimental art means to you (no pun intended with the concrete) n8 Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JARED WILSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:23:27 +0100 (BST) Micho, I realy do not believe what you are doing or have done would be concidered experimental. If it involves experimentation it is experimental - so if I sit down to make a track, if I do not start out with a concrete idea but instead figure it out as i go, then this is experimental no matter how straight ahead the resulting track is. neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The motor stage
this must be said... The scenery at the Motor stage was awesome! Not only did the RenCen tower over it from the front, but if you were up on those stairs looking at it from the side and above, it looked like BEACH MTV!! haha! hm... think about how much better mtv would be if d. wynn spun on the grind (and they let him play what he wanted) :) n8
Contact info for Kelsey Thomas
Meighen, Kelli, Steve, or anyone that was at Foran's on Friday... Does anyone know how to find this man? His set was excellent...
Re: [313] demf cancellations/ me neither - influences
Why isn't Aphex Twin, Rob Hood, Jay Denham, Speedy J, or Carl Craig on the bill either? Cause you don't always get everything you want (and because there are going to be two more demf's) i would like to know why jeff mills is not on the lineup. i hope he just shows up somewhere.
Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY
This list is maintained in order to facilitate the discussion of the music and culture that goes along with Detroit techno. Fat Boy Slim and Paul Oakenfold stand for neither of these things so they are fair game to flames and complaints. The discussion of this garbage is not for the list. It'd be like me talking about the Kinks record that came in the mail for me today. There are better places. n8 On Wed, 24 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is it with all you people pissing and moaning? Music is music in the eye of the beholder. I personally don't enjoy this type of music, but I don't criticize others for their chioce. Leave Gwen be and continue on with your narrow mindset...last time I checked this is a semi-free country we live in. Peace. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Laurent Garnier at DEMF???
Funk post-rock darlins Isotope 217 are gone too. Will there be a final lineup posted at the show so the people don't miss anything? get out yr pad and paper. n8 On Thu, 25 May 2000, D Slegers wrote: I've noticed that Laurent Garnier is now conspicuously absent from the schedule on the DEMF website. Is he a scratch? I was really looking forward to seeing him with a full band. Anyone have any word on this? -dave slegers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) adam beyer in detroit
Hrm.. That's an odd sentiment. Motor isn't the only club in this town by any means, and with the DEMF coming up, I don't see anything to complain about. All I know is that I'm gonna go to hart plaza, and see the man who can make my hips and fists dance at the same time: shake! jason b. said Haye! Too bad Motor doesn't bring in people like Beyer for their residency's rather than DJs such as Dave Ralph and Stacy Pullen.
Re: (313) Line Up : Detroit electronic music festival
Am i the only one in the 313 list ether that can't access either of these sites yet? n8 On Mon, 1 May 2000, Dale Lawrence wrote: The DEMF will take place Saturday, May 27th through Monday, May 29th: We are currently updating the website (http://www.demf.org or http://www.demf.net) with the press conference info, but here is the line-up. stop quoting the entire lineup punks!!
Track ID
Alright kids, the last two times I've seen Mike Huckaby spin, he's thrown down this incredible jam. No vocals, it's got these crazy warped disco-ish samples, and a synth line that arpeggiates in a shuffle-y way. The track is all over the place, the breaks and fills in it are completely mad. Last night at Motor, he spun it about 3-4 tracks after Shades of Jae. It's weird, beautiful, and funky... the perfect combination. The first time he played it, I got a chance to spot. All I got from the label was maybe the word storm Diana: Ferris Beuller's Day Off is all about Chicago. np: Some asshole's car horn outside my window. n8
Re: (313) reality check/toronto
Can we save this for mw-raves? Seriously, this is personal reply territory. Then, either stay home at night and be productive, or go out dancing and ignore the annoying people. It's part of life. n8 On 5 Apr 2000, Rich Neal wrote: I guess you had no quarrels about filling that venue to oh i dunno, 1000 over max. capacity considering you sold each ticket for $25. But I'll tell you first hand, most of the people that I know that used to have faith in Phryl events, don't anymore. I remember the good old days..the first clockwork to be specific. oh dear lord how carola rocked my ass that night. hah. Peace, Rich.
Re: Sv: (313) Jaguar: The Detroit Connection.
Happy to report the BMG/Sony release seems to have disappeared from the stores here in NY...I've heard tell there was someone buying them all up, presumably to burn them. Whomever he/she is...Thank You!! Mark* Again, if someone is actually doing this, please drag them out in to the street and beat on them. PURCHASING these records is not the way to tell Sony/BMG that they have done a horrible deed. Once you have bought these records, it doesn't matter whether you listen to them, burn them , or masturbate over the records, YOU HAVE GIVEN SONY YOUR MONEY. I am sure this is all rumor, but do not encourage this. If you can't figure out why, I question how you'd be literate enough to get yourself onto an email list. It's like giving a homicidal maniac some guns so he/she won't kill people anymore. jesus.. n8
Re: (313) Saturday (was Re: Proxy v1.0 @ Foran's (Saturd)
Of course the choice is clear, the Proxy event was two days ago. I wouldn't make it a habit of dissing honest, low-key events, btw. Carlos and Steve did a pretty fantastic job of entertaining me for 4 hours. Or you can come to Science and hear techno. Dez, Mike Ransom, Mike Santiago + myself. Speechless whites will be circulating. The choice is clear. ryan.
Re: (313) live PAs Live PAs :)
A few weeks ago, I had some YoungUrbanProfessional lady almost ash her cigarette on my modified TR-606. Needless to say, she got an earful from my girlfriend and I. n8 Yeah, and seeing people treat thousand dollar gear like something to rest on is s agitating. This guy started resting both hands on a JP-8000 and nearly flipped it right off it's stand! R __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) 89x suggestions--hmmm
In a message dated 2/25/00 8:29:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lots of yum yum titles *snip* How about Monolake-Interstate, Planet E's-Geology, The Warp Records 10th Anniversary comps... some artists in this city like certain styles of their music to be off mainstream radio..where it will have little impact on american culture and soon thought of as just another tune on the FM dial part of mainstream music... SET Setting ..think 100 years down the line before you act.. *sigh* Would I listen to electronic music if I hadn't heard some inspiring and mind blowing things on CBC, WDET, and WCBN, et al.? Just before you get comfy on your 313 chair, remember that we all started somewhere, like Linda said. It's just as important to the 30 seconds down the line before you act. Some kid itching to find out what music's all about and hearing Knights of the Jaguar instead of crystal method or Puff Daddy. Having this kid become the next generation of detroit artist.
Re: (313) Sex and Music
Oi, that's what CD-burners are for. I like to throw Like a Tim in the stereo, get on my goat mask, and squeeze my plastic fish while dripping a root beer float on my lady's stomach. Now THAT'S 313 n8 yeah...but it really kills the mood when you gotta keep getting up and flip the records ;p That's why you gotta get into threesomes... Then you got an extra pair of hands to flip Marvin's 'Let's Get it On'... Or, if that's not your style... you've always got lock-grooves.:) ~Askew __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
