RE: [313] Hawtin + Aphex Twin - NY Times
liner notes.. heh ;) my comments were from a combination of conversations with him, articles i've read, and from video clips of the de9:ce final scratch discussion/demo he did in new york not too long ago. http://www.music-mag.com/News/2001/sept/hawtin_video.htm At 9:52 PM -0800 11/6/01, FC3 Richards wrote: were you hired to write the liner notes to the CD??? my opinion on the CD?? since no one has asked i am going to give it. i like minimal. i like techno. i like this CD. there ain't no g0ddamn arguing about that. jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 12:08 AM To:M. Todd Smith; Detroits Finest List Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin + Aphex Twin - NY Times At 2:27 AM -0800 11/5/01, M. Todd Smith wrote: I would really like to know what Final Scratch had to do with DE9 2, besides being an influence on it (whatever that means). in using final scratch more and more, richie has started re-editing, re-mixing, re-interpreting tracks since he can do so and play them out almost instantly. he's able to experiment with tracks, and customize them to a mood, venue, whatever. in doing so, he got the idea of going (conceptually speaking) deeper 'into' the tracks; getting nearer and nearer to the basic elements of each track and what made it work one way or another. hence, closer to the edit. final scratch was just an influence on the album, a way of thinking about the music... so that's what it means. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hearing Loss
At 12:39 AM -0500 11/6/01, Phonopsia wrote: On this rather depressing note, has anyone heard yay or nay to the rumor that laurent garnier is giving up or cutting back on DJing due to hearing loss? That would be awful. yep, i've heard that. no way to know if it's actually true, but i've heard it also. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin + Aphex Twin - NY Times
At 2:27 AM -0800 11/5/01, M. Todd Smith wrote: I would really like to know what Final Scratch had to do with DE9 2, besides being an influence on it (whatever that means). in using final scratch more and more, richie has started re-editing, re-mixing, re-interpreting tracks since he can do so and play them out almost instantly. he's able to experiment with tracks, and customize them to a mood, venue, whatever. in doing so, he got the idea of going (conceptually speaking) deeper 'into' the tracks; getting nearer and nearer to the basic elements of each track and what made it work one way or another. hence, closer to the edit. final scratch was just an influence on the album, a way of thinking about the music... so that's what it means. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] speaking of hawtin... (was Re: [313] Hawtin + Aphex Twin - NY Times)
he said that was probably the best time he's ever had playing in SF. his set the following night in LA was quite similar.. came on, floored it for a while, backed off and played some de9:ce tracks, and then wound up banging it out again - but more funky, like you said. he snuck in that You Spin Me Round remix, as well as a rework of Coffee Pot, which kept a little humor and a lot of screaming fans going for it from beginning to end. they gave him an encore and damn i wish i knew what that track was! At 1:16 AM -0800 11/5/01, Eli Bingham wrote: No one mentioned anything about his set at Nikita last Friday in SF. I just wanted to drop a quick mention of it, and I must say, as someone who has critized Richie's more recent (read: '99 up to present) sets, I was really impressed. About an hour to an hour and half of bangin' (but not the drumcode-stiff type bangin', more inna funky vein), and then almost two hours of beautiful, deep, minimal, bliss. One of the most emotional sets I've seen him play...There was actual melody! And no 909 stupidity. I really felt like he's started trying to take people on a journey again. I thanked him for it afterwards and he said that he was really into it that night as well. Maybe the final scratch thing has had a positive effect on his programming...it was definitely reminding me of the richie of old... -eli - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] technology
yep, it was woody's party. took place on an unbelievably cold night in minneapolis. At 9:51 AM -0700 10/22/01, FC3 Richards wrote: wasn't that party thrown by woody mcbride? i have heard numerous times that party was one of the best in the MW...kinda makes we wanna live in the old times... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 9:59 PM To:Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] technology he is dropping is own version of Get Ur Freak On but it's still cool nonetheless. his supposed lack of humor is a common misconception, it seems. he once opened a set in minneapolis with the entirety of Stairway To Heaven - and i mean the whole damn song. the party was called Stairway To Headphones, hence the song. rich went on typically late in the evening, i think right after josh wink. so picture several hours of techno interrrupted by a very long Led Zeppelin song. damn that was funny. people had no idea what to do. At 7:26 PM +1000 10/19/01, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Well dude is dropping Missy Elliott into his sets too now, I read in Jockey Slut. Guess this means I get a reprieve from techno purists who scoff at my RB CDs now. Thanks Rich! ;) Now I dare Richie to drop Jay-Z or Bubba Sparxxx. ;) all i have to say is who else has ventured out into the land of experimantation like hawtin has on the closer to the edit CD?? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] santos rodriguez
not too long ago there was a discussion about this on global-techno. there were a lot of answers, but i don't know that there was ever a consensus. i really think/thought that santos is steve bicknell cuz i actually read that somewhere, but max duley (who prolly oughta know...) swore that it was not bicknell. so basically i have no idea either. At 6:01 PM +0100 10/20/01, scott mcgill wrote: Supposedly rumoured that it is Oliver Ho. Apparently he said once that the mysterious Santos Rodriguez is great and gonna be one to watch. Who knows? More of I hope in the future, that ep is the epitomy of good tribal tecchno IMO. Scott Mc - Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: [313] santos rodriguez Little question: is this guy producing under some aliases? Because cosmic id 001 is the only relase from santos rodriguez i´ve heard from (and I like it a lot). Greets, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] technology
he is dropping is own version of Get Ur Freak On but it's still cool nonetheless. his supposed lack of humor is a common misconception, it seems. he once opened a set in minneapolis with the entirety of Stairway To Heaven - and i mean the whole damn song. the party was called Stairway To Headphones, hence the song. rich went on typically late in the evening, i think right after josh wink. so picture several hours of techno interrrupted by a very long Led Zeppelin song. damn that was funny. people had no idea what to do. At 7:26 PM +1000 10/19/01, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Well dude is dropping Missy Elliott into his sets too now, I read in Jockey Slut. Guess this means I get a reprieve from techno purists who scoff at my RB CDs now. Thanks Rich! ;) Now I dare Richie to drop Jay-Z or Bubba Sparxxx. ;) all i have to say is who else has ventured out into the land of experimantation like hawtin has on the closer to the edit CD?? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] technology
it wasn't a dis... i like that song, personally. was just pointing out that the version he's got in his computer is not the version you'll hear on the radio or anywhere else. At 3:16 PM +1000 10/21/01, hunter baby wrote: maybe i'm still getting it all wrong - but is it still cool to diss comeone because they drop a particularly (allegedly), 'uncool' track in an otherwise groovy set? i didn't think it mattered if it was pulled off. if it was good - it was good. no? peace. hanta (: Original message from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] he is dropping is own version of Get Ur Freak On but it's still cool nonetheless. his supposed lack of humor is a common misconception, it seems. he once opened a set in minneapolis with the entirety of Stairway To Heaven - and i mean the whole damn song. the party was called Stairway To Headphones, hence the song. rich went on typically late in the evening, i think right after josh wink. so picture several hours of techno interrrupted by a very long Led Zeppelin song. damn that was funny. people had no idea what to do. At 7:26 PM +1000 10/19/01, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Well dude is dropping Missy Elliott into his sets too now, I read in Jockey Slut. Guess this means I get a reprieve from techno purists who scoff at my RB CDs now. Thanks Rich! ;) Now I dare Richie to drop Jay-Z or Bubba Sparxxx. ;) all i have to say is who else has ventured out into the land of experimantation like hawtin has on the closer to the edit CD?? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . __ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] santos rodriguez
that would make me feel much better, since i also read the same thing somewhere ;) At 11:27 AM +0100 10/21/01, seth redmond wrote: Santos Rodriguez = Steve Bicknell. I've read this in magazines and I was pretty sure it hinted at it in the promo notes for Road to Rio... I'll check later - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin Magda
it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored. At 4:58 PM +0100 10/3/01, Gary Girard wrote: Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 I wouldn't say I wasn't in the mood for it, I just need more going on than Richie gave last Sat. It was all very neat tidy (everything in the right place), but it was just too cold calculated. There must have been about ten trax maximum that stood out in 6 hrs, trax that got a reaction from the crowd. Like I said earlier tho, I'm open minded and am going to hear him again on 15th. With a bit of luck I'll also be hearing him at 'I Love Techno' in November : ) GG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin Magda
that was not remotely an attack, nor was it a defense. it was an honest statement. At 8:28 PM + 10/3/01, Jayson B. wrote: it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored. I've stuck around many times for lengths for dj's that i expected to impress me. I've seen magda multiple times, on the suggestion of others, because maybe i felt i missed something the times before. its called having an open mind. Sad that someone says richie didn't impress them and suddenly they deserve to be attacked. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin Magda
it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored. At 4:58 PM +0100 10/3/01, Gary Girard wrote: Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 I wouldn't say I wasn't in the mood for it, I just need more going on than Richie gave last Sat. It was all very neat tidy (everything in the right place), but it was just too cold calculated. There must have been about ten trax maximum that stood out in 6 hrs, trax that got a reaction from the crowd. Like I said earlier tho, I'm open minded and am going to hear him again on 15th. With a bit of luck I'll also be hearing him at 'I Love Techno' in November : ) GG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin Magda
that was not remotely an attack, nor was it a defense. it was an honest statement. At 8:28 PM + 10/3/01, Jayson B. wrote: it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored. I've stuck around many times for lengths for dj's that i expected to impress me. I've seen magda multiple times, on the suggestion of others, because maybe i felt i missed something the times before. its called having an open mind. Sad that someone says richie didn't impress them and suddenly they deserve to be attacked. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] what ever happened to... was [313] Eric Haupt/upstage
oh yeah! the star wars guys... who brought out every piece of equipment ever made in order to do a live show. At 2:49 AM -0400 9/20/01, Mike Taylor wrote: Hatatomic? Other mid-90's acts that no one has heard from in years? From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Eric Haupt/upstage Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Last time I saw Eric Haupt play was at Sickness/Recovery...if I remember correctly. He was on leave from the navy at the time I think. Wasn't there a brother as well who played? Adam? I think the more important point here is that a larger known local talent is helping a less recognized talent get recognition. Kevin Saunderson is doing it with the new KMS studios (with Heath Brunner-sp-and some other experienced locals) and I think it's something that older Detroit players should use as an example. There is so much younger talent in Detroit that doesn't get the recognition they deserve, such as derek and many, many others. I find it interesting that some people forget that not everyone on this lists posts or speaks. If it's one thing the information age is infamous for, is creating a lack of manners and respect for others. Let's try and remember that what you post about someone, you should just as well be able to say it to their face. And even if they aren't on the list...it's pretty guarenteed it will get back to them (-especially- in Detroit).I don't care if anyone care's or not, just take into consideration. The opening act showup that comes to mind first is when I saw Lamb open for Gus Gus at St.Andrews. Lamb blew Gus Gus's set away IMHO. d __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin DE9-Closer to the Edit
rich's LA gig this weekend has been cancelled. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] de9:ce sample player
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RE: [313] Track ID Please?!!
Dope Computer was the A side of the record, but that track is called Flash. Artist is Fix, on KMS. At 1:24 AM -0400 9/9/01, Dan Kurzius wrote: Isn't that 'Dope Computer' released on KMS?!?!? dK -Original Message- From: Christian Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 8:57 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: [313] Track ID Please?!! i really need to know this too, it's driving me crazy not to be able to remember the name of this one Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianbloch.htm Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured - Original Message - From: PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:20 AM Subject: [313] Track ID Please?!! Can someone Identify this track for me??! Please dont make fun of me, as it's an old one I probably should know... http://www.paxahau.com/sounds/2001/iapril/04-21-01_kennylarkin_motor.ram The track is 35:53 into the file Thanks, -Paul -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] closer to the edit tour
if he follows form, those parties only happen every 5 years... At 11:13 AM -0400 8/21/01, Ian wrote: on 8/21/01 4:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richie Hawtin will go on tour to promote his new ´closer to the edit´ album: October 30, 2001 - Birmingham, UK October 31, 2001 - L Enfer Club Paris, France Well. No Jak'O'Lantern for Devils' Night. What will the trick-or-treaters do this year? -- im - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
it's not ready for purchase yet; should be 'soon'. supposedly will be around $500. no special hardware is needed, other than the breakout box and the two pieces of special vinyl that will come with the system... and a pc running at least 500mhz P3 with a USB connection. the breakout connects to the pc via USB and to the mixer via the Line inputs - so you have to have a mixer with Line ins on most of the ins, which most mixers do. beyond that it's all the same stuff - two turntables, carts/needles, mixer, etc. you can see all the details, watch some QT movies of john explaining the system, and request to be notified when the system is ready at www.finalscratch.com At 7:32 AM -0400 8/15/01, PJ wrote: Hey, all... I was wondering if anyone outhere has seen, played with, or has any other info about the Finalscratch Program that John Richie are currently using. I'm curious as to what special hardware is needed, and how the switching of the turntables from audio to PC input works.. The only info I can get about it is that it is a system that allows you to cue manipulate mp3 files by way of a turntable playing a special record (I'm assuming it must have some sort of pulse timing signal on it?). I wonder when the average schmuck off the street (read: me) could go purchase this system.. Peace... -Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QRe: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
exactly.. you can record to a pristine digital 24/96 environment if you like, and then play that digital recording out. only consideration is file size. so technically finalscratch could sound better than records ever did. as for independent labels and distribution, a) this won't happen over night - vinyl production isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and b) sooner or later digital music distribution will finally dump its two left feet and figure out a way a safe and efficient way to work. seems so ironic that all the hard to find music we buy is almost exclusively on vinyl, when it started out as a digital master. artists need to be paid for their work, but in what format we receive it shouldn't matter. people seem to have gotten used to CDs just fine... plus, if music got cheaper due to the reduced distribution costs, there's a very good chance people would buy a lot more of it. i know personally there's tons of housier records that i ignore every month because it's just not in the budget. this also has huge implications for all the tiny, regional labels out there around the world that very few people get exposed to. At 6:53 AM -0700 8/15/01, Kevin Conrad wrote: Final Scratch can also play wav files, so someone using FS doesn't necessarily have to worry about the low quality of MP3's. Kevin --- M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with what Lauryn has said for the most part (because we have already seen the effect of Napster on the music industry). We must include one more particularily special point. MP3 Quality at less than a bit rate of 192 sounds shoddy on the extreme low end and extreme high end. MP3 is a compression algorithm which lops off the signal at the extent of the human hearing range (ie 20, 000 Hz but most codecs lop off around 16, 000), and the sub-extent of human hearing (around 20hz but again most codecs lop off around 100Hz). When listening at home this isn't so bad since most in home stereo systems already reduce extreme low-high end by means of a crossover either in the speaker itself or digitally in the amplifier. At the club however the is no roll off, and things like these become more apparent. Worse is the fact that despite our inability to hear these frequencies, we can hear the harmonics that they create with frequencies we do hear. Moreover even without knowledge the producer of the track may have utilized those particular harmonics. With MP3 those will never be heard. I've heard both MP3's and vinyl on the same system, and to be honest unless you have a good soundcheck and all your files are recorded and EQ'ed properly beforehand, your set will sound lackluster. MP3's with a bitrate higher than 192 sound great, the higher the better, but they take up more room. As we progress into a generation where physical memory is no longer an issue I'm sure this will become more viable. Cheers todd - Original Message - From: miss lauryn g [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT) i think the idea of this technology is fantastic. however, what i am wondering is what this is going to do to the independent record label industry. use of mp3s right now doesn't currently affect them as much as it does the major record labels. but what this is going to do is discourage buying vinyl. (at least that is how i see it.) all you have to do is basically find a track online or find a friend with that record and rip an mp3. it's going to cause a lot of producers to not make any money. i wonder how much people are going to start fighting within the dance music community after this becomes readily available. i personally think that final scratch is going to be pretty popular and that after it gets some more attention, it's going to be utilized by more and more people, especially after they see that it works so well. it's just also a question of people supporting their artists and buying the vinyl still. (which is something that i would still be doing if i really really wanted a certain track...it would cause a lot less of that h why did i buy THAT? syndrome that i occasionally get here and there if i used final scratch and just had an mp3 of the track.) i dunno...i'm just going to sit back and watch and see how people start changing their minds on the mp3 argument when it starts affecting THEM. -l - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make
Re: QRe: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
i should also add, just to counter myself, that the greatly reduced distribution costs idea might end up being a big lie anyway. it sure was with the switch to CDs. we'll see. At 7:31 AM -0700 8/15/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: exactly.. you can record to a pristine digital 24/96 environment if you like, and then play that digital recording out. only consideration is file size. so technically finalscratch could sound better than records ever did. as for independent labels and distribution, a) this won't happen over night - vinyl production isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and b) sooner or later digital music distribution will finally dump its two left feet and figure out a way a safe and efficient way to work. seems so ironic that all the hard to find music we buy is almost exclusively on vinyl, when it started out as a digital master. artists need to be paid for their work, but in what format we receive it shouldn't matter. people seem to have gotten used to CDs just fine... plus, if music got cheaper due to the reduced distribution costs, there's a very good chance people would buy a lot more of it. i know personally there's tons of housier records that i ignore every month because it's just not in the budget. this also has huge implications for all the tiny, regional labels out there around the world that very few people get exposed to. At 6:53 AM -0700 8/15/01, Kevin Conrad wrote: Final Scratch can also play wav files, so someone using FS doesn't necessarily have to worry about the low quality of MP3's. Kevin --- M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with what Lauryn has said for the most part (because we have already seen the effect of Napster on the music industry). We must include one more particularily special point. MP3 Quality at less than a bit rate of 192 sounds shoddy on the extreme low end and extreme high end. MP3 is a compression algorithm which lops off the signal at the extent of the human hearing range (ie 20, 000 Hz but most codecs lop off around 16, 000), and the sub-extent of human hearing (around 20hz but again most codecs lop off around 100Hz). When listening at home this isn't so bad since most in home stereo systems already reduce extreme low-high end by means of a crossover either in the speaker itself or digitally in the amplifier. At the club however the is no roll off, and things like these become more apparent. Worse is the fact that despite our inability to hear these frequencies, we can hear the harmonics that they create with frequencies we do hear. Moreover even without knowledge the producer of the track may have utilized those particular harmonics. With MP3 those will never be heard. I've heard both MP3's and vinyl on the same system, and to be honest unless you have a good soundcheck and all your files are recorded and EQ'ed properly beforehand, your set will sound lackluster. MP3's with a bitrate higher than 192 sound great, the higher the better, but they take up more room. As we progress into a generation where physical memory is no longer an issue I'm sure this will become more viable. Cheers todd - Original Message - From: miss lauryn g [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT) i think the idea of this technology is fantastic. however, what i am wondering is what this is going to do to the independent record label industry. use of mp3s right now doesn't currently affect them as much as it does the major record labels. but what this is going to do is discourage buying vinyl. (at least that is how i see it.) all you have to do is basically find a track online or find a friend with that record and rip an mp3. it's going to cause a lot of producers to not make any money. i wonder how much people are going to start fighting within the dance music community after this becomes readily available. i personally think that final scratch is going to be pretty popular and that after it gets some more attention, it's going to be utilized by more and more people, especially after they see that it works so well. it's just also a question of people supporting their artists and buying the vinyl still. (which is something that i would still be doing if i really really wanted a certain track...it would cause a lot less of that h why did i buy THAT? syndrome that i occasionally get here and there if i used final scratch and just had an mp3 of the track.) i dunno...i'm just going to sit back and watch and see how people start changing their minds on the mp3 argument when it starts affecting THEM. -l - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] closer to the edit
also very excited to hear this... i know this is nitpicky, but i hear references all the time to how the DE9 cd was nothing but 'straight ahead' bam bam bam... didn't anyone listen to the latter 1/3 of that cd? from about the Pacou track on, he really switches gears. only making this point because i love that part of the cd.. not for the sake of debate ;) At 9:45 AM -0400 7/9/01, Rob Theakston wrote: received a promo copy on my desk this morning. absolutely sinful. i can't (and won't) mention all of the tracks by namebut thus far i've heard some rhythm n sound, basic channel, stewart walker, theorem, FUSE, Plastikman (spastik) and carl craig (the climax and 4 My Peepz) amongst others. very tasteful umm.edits ( wouldn't call them mixes ), but he goes all over the place with this release as well, not just straight ahead like the DE909. i don't know if this raises the bar for mix CDs...because it's more of an edit CD than anything..but whatever it isit's definitely worth a listen. he took it to a new level. rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: how many...? (was Richie in SF..)
it's true. At 3:42 PM +0100 7/8/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in my set of techno toptrumps (came free with the dj hell X-mix album) it claims that Acquaviva has 40,000 records in his collection. Can this be true? I don't think I own 40,000 things, let alone tunes. (It also lists Sven Vath as playing the longest dj set at 30hrs.) -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie in SF..
he and john are nothing if not complusive record shoppers. and travelling the world doesn't hurt matters either. still, we used to joke that there was some private factory in germany making records only for rich... he ALWAYS has stuff you've never heard before. At 10:10 AM -0700 7/5/01, Bulger, Tim wrote: I caught Richie here in SF doing a DJ set over the weekend and he totally destroyed the place. Was among the best performances I've seen in a long time. He played very little of the DE9 style tribal techno, more of a tech-house + underground techno sound. Anyone have any idea what these records are and where he's buying them?!? :) Later, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richie
i was at that autechre party... At 7:52 PM -0400 5/29/01, Dharma Fowler wrote: speaking of richie, i think two of his best parties were the cd release party for consumed and another one in toronto called ritual submission a few years ago. autechre was also there. did anybody else on the list go to that party? i have some specific questions about that party. thanks, dharma _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richie's gear
purely live, i.e. no turntables... not very. not the direction he's heading... but there seems to be more and more + in the de9+, so it's just semantics. sorta. At 3:14 PM + 5/30/01, Jayson B. wrote: ive seen richie perform live - very intense. nearly all jammed live on classic roland gear. his DJ sets always seemed an anti climax to me after that... I guess i should have refined my question a bit more: when's he going to start playing live more often? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Looking for Gaetano Parisio's ART10 2x12
10?? when did 10 come out? 9 was not very long ago. At 1:51 PM +0300 5/23/01, Nuutti-Iivari Meriläinen wrote: I'm terribly sorry to waste the bandwidth, but I just haven't been able to locate the last in Gaetano Parisio's ART series anywhere. It was released a while back but not one mail order shop I've tried to get it from has it listed. If anyone knows where I could order this item, let me know privately. It's a 2x12, catalog code ART10. Someone must know what I'm talking about :). Cheers, -- nuutti-iivari meriläinen gordon at diversion dot org http colon slash slash www dot diversion dot org slash - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] sunny demf
http://www.weather.com/weather/local/48202 -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] true/false
FALSE, sort of... Colin McBean, (formerly) 1/2 of The Advent, = Mr. G Cisco Ferreira, the other 1/2 of The Advent, = G Flame The Advent as it stands currently is only Cisco, so technically The Advent = G Flame. ...and Stanny Franssen (formerly of LFO) = G-Force. At 12:37 AM -0400 5/17/01, Dan Kurzius wrote: advent = mr g = true -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:32 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] true/false i heard the advent = mr g well? k -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] true/false
h yeah... so who the heck was using G-Force? At 11:47 PM -0700 5/16/01, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: dr == dobyrush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dr FALSE, sort of... dr Colin McBean, (formerly) 1/2 of The Advent, = Mr. G dr Cisco Ferreira, the other 1/2 of The Advent, = G Flame dr ...and Stanny Franssen (formerly of LFO) = G-Force. I'm pretty sure Franssen was never a part of LFO, but Gez Varley, who was, records under the name G-Man (~swim, i220) when he wants to roll out the minimal click-house. They both sound pretty tight, though, so I can understand the confusion. - o . . . the self-reflecting image of a narcotized mind . . . ozymandias G desiderata [EMAIL PROTECTED] desperate, deathless (415)558-9064http://www.aoaioxxysz.com/ ::AOAIOXXYSZ:: -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] true/false
too many G's! so stanny is G-force, but i dunno where the LFO comment came from.. that's Gez. sorry for the confusion. At 2:21 PM +0100 5/17/01, scott mcgill wrote: Wasn't it Mark Bell and Gez Varley (G-Man) in LFO yes, you are right on the Mr G thing, easy to mix it up. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Kurzius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:18 AM Subject: RE: [313] true/false FALSE, sort of... Colin McBean, (formerly) 1/2 of The Advent, = Mr. G Cisco Ferreira, the other 1/2 of The Advent, = G Flame The Advent as it stands currently is only Cisco, so technically The Advent = G Flame. ...and Stanny Franssen (formerly of LFO) = G-Force. At 12:37 AM -0400 5/17/01, Dan Kurzius wrote: advent = mr g = true -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:32 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] true/false i heard the advent = mr g well? k -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] global underground and deck, efx, and 909
yes. the original mix was much longer. he recorded it, pulled it into acid and came up with what you hear... he has discussed this in interviews, etc. definitely was digitally processed after being recorded with the equipment listed. At 1:10 PM -0700 5/9/01, Samuel Hobbs wrote: i am looking at the liner notes of de909 and there is a technical list of what was presumably used to mix this cd. richie lists vestax pmc-50a mixer, vestax dcr1200pro isolator, ensoniq dp/2 effects processor, roland tr-909 drum machine, technics sl-1200 turntables, stanton trackmaster cartridges, and roland cv pedal. given this does anyone else have any other evidence that this cd is digitally mixed using protools. i have never gotten any other feeling from the 100+ times i have listened to it that it is digitally mixed. -sam -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] t-1000
http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/ol2k/library/aoldham.htm At 4:51 PM -0400 5/6/01, Andy Battle wrote: anyone know of any articles/interviews with dj t-1000/alan oldham? thanks. --
Re: [313] MTV UK
that 'extra' video is great... At 2:16 AM +0100 5/5/01, tim maughan wrote: for all you that were hating me the other night for saying we got jaguar played a lot on MTV in the UK, thought you'd like to know since i got back from the pub tonite ive seen on and window licker by aphex twin, love by luke slater, and the wonderful extra by ken ishi, with its fantastic toshihiko okiura anime video... nice;) --
Re: [313] 313TechKnow
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/313techknow At 4:40 PM -0400 4/28/01, Graeme ~ wrote: Can someone send me the sign up address / URL for this? I know it was posted last week, but I deleted the message it was in. Cheers! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [313] Quick question...
even if you don't 'dj' in the go out and do it places sense, there's every reason to not only have a tuntable at home, but to have 2 (or 3) tables, a mixer, etc at home. first of all, all the good techno is only on vinyl and that's just the way it is right now, plus learning to mix (even a little) gives the whole thing a different perspective. lots of tracks sound better when they are played with other tracks, and getting familiar with the music happens a lot more quickly when you are actually engaged in 'doing' something with it. ok, yes, listening to it is doing something with it.. let's avoid that thread. there's a lot of damn fun to be had by djing at home, for yourself, is my point. At 12:26 AM -0400 4/27/01, TyDesign7 wrote: I don't DJ. For the longest time I bought vinyl (based on reviews on the 313 list) in the hopes that I would one day get a turntable. Nearly a decade later and I finally bought one. What a revelation! There are so many things I have missed. 80% is a conservative estimate. I'd say vinyl all the way. on 4/26/01 9:41 PM, Omar Hackett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peace. Many who know me, are still baffled as to why I dont have a darn T-Table. Some have told me that 80% of the best techno and house/tech-house comes out on vinyl only. Just as others are bewildered by me not having a t-table, so too am I with EVERYONE having onethus my question is this... How many people, in anyones estimation, spin for a club, or DJ at private gigs, etc. As oppossed to those who just buy vinyl just to listen to the 80%-good stuff on vinyl? (I really wanna freak'n know too) --
Re: [313] Best of the best...
i LOVE the Leave Me Now version with her vocals. At 2:20 AM -0400 4/22/01, Phonopsia wrote: I second the Herbert/Sicialano vote. She's probably my fav vocalist at the moment. If Leave Me Now ever gets a proper release (although nt Sicialano), that's a great track on which tp build since it's essentially downtoempo, but at aroud 115 bpm. --
Re: [313] Christian Morgensen
it's Christian Morgenstern can't tell you much about him except that i like his stuff. the new Hawaii Blue on Forte is really nice. At 2:32 PM +1000 4/4/01, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I wondered if anyone is familiar with Christian Morgensen, a techno producer out of Cologne. I mainly want to verify the spelling - I have just written it phonetically in German. Some info may be good too. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hey mac Users!
for the record, itunes has never crashed or crashed my system. every other mac mp3 player i've used has. At 11:16 AM -0400 4/4/01, Sean Deason wrote: any other Mac users out there with iTunes installed? just listening to the DJing Classics in the Electronica section. nice stuff! theyre playing Rolando's Jaguar right now :^)I love iTunes!! sean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Jeff Mills and song id Green Velvet
cajmere (out) used to equal the cajual sound - you are correct. 4-5 years ago, that is. At 2:04 AM +0100 4/3/01, scott mcgill wrote: Curtis is a top producer with a real quirkyness to the sound, we cannot all be too serious. I think Rush owes a bit to him. I think he is a better producer as his DJing leaves a little to be desired; mainly because he is always so plastered. I am off to see him this Friday with Ben Sims. He is performing as Cajmere doing a techno set. Could someone please tell me whether I was rightin think that when he used to perform as Caj was when he was playing his Cajual sound because now I am being told different? I'm sure I am right. Tats. SMc - Original Message - From: Robin Crampton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: [313] Jeff Mills and song id Thanks to all that responded. Green Velvet, Preacher Man. This Green Velvet chap is pretty good, isn't he? Innovative I think is the word, a quality which is getting rarer these days (in techno at least). Nice programming. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Mills and the 909
At 3:38 PM -0500 3/28/01, dj revolver wrote: get the jeff mills live at liquid room cd. extensive use of the 909 and performed very well. there's no 909 use in the liquid room cd.
Re: [313] spastik
slak/kriket @ spastik was relased on the sickness/panikattack cd single. so yes, there is a recording of spastik. does anyone have it.. other than rich, i highly doubt it. At 10:37 PM -0800 3/22/01, Samuel Hobbs wrote: tonight i was doing some general searches on napster under plastikman when i saw slakricket live @ spastik in the listing of tracks. my question is this...does a recording of plastikman live at Spastik exist? if yes does anyone on the list own it? would you please let me know via private email addy. -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Mistress Barbra
That sounds like 'Aural Exciter' but that's not Mistress Barbara; it's by Glen Wilson and Mike Humphries. Punish #4. Her proper British accent makes the whole thing SO nice... ;) At 3:16 PM -0800 11/7/00, FC3 Richards wrote: I am looking for a track that i was told was done by Mistress Barbra. Basically it is a track with a vocal of a female dominatrix talking about what she is doing to a you and how good it feels and all that other dirty nasty stuff. you know, the kind of track that would make everyone horney. OK, maybe just Vidal. anyways i want this record and any info on it i can get. i know it had a UK release, but not what label. and i don't know if it was released in the states. thanks ahead of time. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Are Juan Atkins Eddie Flashin' Fowlkes L.A. residents now?
Don't know about Eddie, but as for Juan, yes, he's in LA now. At 5:22 PM -0800 11/3/00, Greg Earle wrote: I'm seeing a lot of listings with Eddie Flashin' Fowlkes on our local SoCal rave calendars of late. In our current one, he's listed 3 times. I've also been seeing Juan's name pop up more on event listings of late. Have the two of them moved out here to L.A. or something? Inquiring minds want to know. (No, not a stalker, just curious.) - Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Mayday mix..........albumn
ah, the eternal question. the line for answers to that one forms to the left - 10 years ago. one can only hope. At 4:26 AM -0800 11/4/00, Sam Karmel wrote: hi 313 I got the Derrick May mix of Jaguar today. Very nice production. My question is does Derrick May have any plans of doing a full length albumn in the future. He has to much talent not to. Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
uh oh... At 10:56 AM -0500 11/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Detroit Trance
rippin' arpeggios, pumpin 909 kicks, and swirling psychedelic dolphin noises. still busy laughing ;)
Re: [313] heiko laux?
buy Sensefiction.. very, very good LP - like most of the stuff on kanzleramt. hard to categorize.. mintechdubelectrohouse; just good. groovetech has 4 clips from that album which might help you get an idea of the sound. recommended - same with the remixes. speaking of kanzleramt, the new diego is also great. At 10:28 AM -0400 10/27/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone ever hear anything buy this guy?Reviews, opinions? ~Z - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] mills silliness
jeff sometimes has records in the small of his back/in his pants, under his arms, between his legs... At 8:25 PM +0200 10/3/00, peter mueller wrote: well, i think the only reason for doing so is due to the speed of mixing. it saves a lot of time (but obviously not good for the records).
Re: [313] Yet another Track ID
I have that record.. pretty sure it's not Jon Carter... hmph... I can't find it right now, so maybe it is. ;) At 7:18 PM -0400 10/1/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. The phrase, women beat their menand men beat on the drums. with a continuosly beautiful tribal drum session going on. Thanks. Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richard harvey explanation
And I believe that richard harvey is also an alias... At 11:39 PM -0700 10/1/00, john holmes wrote: richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is from london, he is also know as user which is some of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that appear on the decks, efx, 909 disc. hopefully this brings some clarity to you. troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Q about Detroit, Richard Harvey...
Also, is Richard Harvey really Ritchie Hawtin? Nope. And there's no 't', BTW.
Re: [313] plus8 in sf
In general talking about Rich is a dead end, or at least I try not to do it on this list - but since HP asked. ;) Likewise, Rich is still very much an inspiration. It's funny to me how popular it has become to slag him for media sensation this and that... he has always cared deeply for presentation, for putting his own stamp on the things he does. This is not news; that he has accumulated the success that affords him the ability to do bigger productions, make a bigger name for himself has absolutely nothing to do with anything other than that success. He earned it. Behind the decks or in the studio, he is a master. You can't buy that, nor can you promote it into existence. The old days... ahh. Too much like the whole dancing about architecture cliche... Spastik, the Toronto live show.. just about religious experiences - euphoric. Toe-head Richie Rich in The Shelter. The Hard parties, the Jak parties, the free barn party, his little black hole of a room at the back of the warehouse in Toronto during the Autechre party, Jak 6 and the tribal speaker destruction, the amazing Jak o'lantern (I got there early and was in the main room when it was empty - The System was scary that night!) (he also had some rack-mounted stuff back in these days, to concur with Steve's observation.) Several events in SF, LA, Iowa, Pittsburgh, M1, others. All permanently stamped in my brain, part of who I am today. Earlier this month I spent a bunch of money so I could be back in Detroit for about 12 hours at the u1 party. Felt like a small homecoming and Rich laid down the law that night; no question whatsoever that he has become one of the world's best DJs. Worth every penny and every uncomfortable moment on the airplane. How glad I am that I got old(er) doing this and that spontaneous cross-country trips have become possible. Some people go fishing...
Re: [313] From Our Minds To Yours - October 28th, 2000, Detroit, Michigan
Fixer and I went to see Richie John do the Plus 8 Classics tour thing at Giant in LA last night. Me too. (and a Join In The Chant remix encore! Long time no hear) done with all the house lights on.. which was bizarre all by itself. Earlier John dropped a Dead Or Alive/You Spin Me 'Round mix and the place went f'ing crazy. Then Rich stepped up and.. you could tell a lot of the people didn't know what was going on, but they all loved it anyway. I think the second track he played knocked over every drink in the building. Relentless for about 2.5 hours. Wonderful. No 909 use though..
RE: [313] Re: track id?
Wasn't Acid Eiffel, good track as that is. and let's face it.. what the hell was 2/3 of what he played in that last hour? Unbelievable. It def. was not a 303 bass line, I'm guessing the wow-wow sounds were probably made by a Juno. But after hearing Acid Eiffel again, i'm gonna hunt it down. I'm trying to locate a copy of Killer Whale, but I don't see it on the UR catalog anywhere. I may have located a copy of the Warp Track as well..hopefully one of these will pan out. thanks again all jim
Re: [313] hollywood music...
Colors ('88)
At 9:04 PM + 9/2/00, Sanderson Dear wrote:
since we're on the topic of hollywood music... i've got a question.
does anyone know what movie soundtrack did so good that it's spawned
this cookie cutter approach to music scoring now? because for a
long while record companies didn't bother much with a soundtrack,
now it seems like the soundtrack can save the film if it goes belly
up at the box office.
i some how think it was the Hackers soundtrack that got record
exec's attention.
anyone?
sand.
Re: [313] Underground Classic Gets Sampled
Sure it's Lil' Louis' track, but somehow Derrick May should get the credit for this... :) At 5:37 PM +0900 7/17/00, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Wow. The new Lil' Kim record features a sample of French Kiss on this track Custom Made (Give It To You)!! What next? Your favourite underground techno classic (insert here). Cheers Cyclone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin is the future of Detroit Techno.
plastikfan.org At 2:28 AM -0500 7/17/00, stephen wrote: Someone made a Richie Hawtin Discography page that was posted on 313 awhile back, not the one on www.m-nus.com/ Could someone please drop me a link? Forgot to bookmark the page and cant find it on a search engine. thanks, stephen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Surgeon - contact address
http://www.dj-surgeon.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 9:11 PM -0400 7/13/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have a contact address for Surgeon? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: (G-TECH) dj horsepower
;) From: lars relander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Global-techno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (G-TECH) dj horsepower Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:43:17 +0300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: lars relander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Comment: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe global-techno to [EMAIL PROTECTED] hmm we've got a big techno/electronic music event coming up (http://www.koneisto.com) and there's a guy called dj horsepower coming in.. i've heard of this name before but can't somehow come up with where and when and who he is. any information about him that you have that i could pass on? L -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [x-rust] http://www.x-rust.org/alkemist/
Re: [313] Black Dog CD at Satellite
Yes - Groovetech is superb. At 2:04 PM -0700 6/28/00, FRED MCMURRY wrote: My experience with Groovetech has been excellent. I've made several orders from them now and get them within 3 days, every time. Never a messed up order and their online site has realaudio samples of every record/CD (except if there is a repeat listing) so it's almost like being in your local record store. Their stock, I think, is somewhere around 2000+ record titles. Fred
Re: [313] Black Dog CD at Satellite
At 11:39 PM +0200 6/28/00, Jernej Marusic wrote: I've been listening to the great DEMF sets on groovetech and till now haven't even realized that they also sell records :) I'll check what they got. that's maybe the one not-so-smart thing about Groovetech: the record store is under Listening Lab. not exactly intuitive. however, once you get over there, it's great - the search function works really well, and they have RA samples of almost everything. check the 'text' box for search results and the site runs a lot faster - and who cares about little thumbnails of the record sleeves anyway.
Re: [313] Older people's views on detriot?
At 6:18 PM -0400 6/26/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've watched some of the best DJs that have ever come to midwest and find most of them tend to be in their mid to late thirties. I think it's great that they still enjoy the scene and are willing to share their extreme talents with us young folk. Get near 30 and you'll discover that, for as many ways as it's different from being 20-ish, it's also not. ..Unless you convince yourself otherwise ahead of time.
Re: [313] Software question revisited
you should buy the software, try it, and then ask your question here: http://www.egroups.com/group/tech-gear or sub to these and do some homework: http://www.egroups.com/group/vst-mac - if you have a mac http://www.egroups.com/group/cubase-users http://www.egroups.com/group/logic-users - over 3000 members, lots of traffic, *great* resource http://www.egroups.com/group/LA-Mac - Logic Mac group. much smaller, Mac specific (duh).
Re: [313] Re: Girls and Detroit
Dustin? -Original Message- From: Dance Extacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Sunday, June 18, 2000 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Girls and Detroit -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are calling out Diana, my friend, be prepared. She's tougher than you. ? what is she gonna sit on me ;] stop the insanity __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: Girls and Detroit
---Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: curves,brains,intuition and all.I am proud that I come with these insticts that men will never understand, 500 pounds is more then just curves dear. time OUT a second... if your comment means what it sounds like, you are completely out of line.
RE: [313] DEMF real audio?
At 3:34 AM -0500 5/28/00, stephen wrote: hey, where's the live real audio/ video stream? not much info on the DEMF site. thanks, stephen. www.groovetech.com/demf
Re: [313] DEMF 'Hurt Feelings'
There's about 100 arguable, semi-ridiculous points in that original posting. The loudest one seems to be: if you've never heard Alan you really can't make all these subjective assumptions about what he does and doesn't play - even if you have snippets of quotes from Alan himself and the sounds of his production to go by. Never mind the fact that there are people (at least one person..) on the bill who *do* usually play proto-european mega banging techno. In fact, I think he's closing out the festival. However, like Alan, this person can play everythying and does play everything - extremely well. And they are both Detroit icons. The fact of the matter is that Alan has been around for a long time, and has been a positive contributor to Techno (let's leave out the geography for a moment) for an equally long time. We'll never know why he wasn't included in this particular DEMF unless Carl (or whomever) decides to come out and actually tell us. Good or bad, there could be dozens of reasons. Separately, be glad there is a DEMF at all. I realize many people around the world do have an idea of what it's been like there for the last 15 years, but unless you lived there, you'll never fully understand: this is virtually a miracle. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, May 27, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: RE: [313] DEMF 'Hurt Feelings' if they were booking dj's that move stuff forward. then, explain to me why gary chandler has two sets. i'm not dissing the mans skills, but tell me how booty music moves anything forward. In a message dated Sat, 27 May 2000 12:16:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rol leider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alan I think the reason you haven't been asked to play is because you don't play what the rest of Detroit is into anymore. Though I've never heard a set I own a few of your records, which are solid, and have an indication of what you play from the comments you've made on this list. Hard and minimal is my guess, the way Detroit used to do it, and from all reports mixed up in inspirational style. But with the exception of Hawtin, Mills and yourself (and maybe Rolando), it doesn't seem to me that that's what Detoit musicians are into anymore. I think Detroit and I think Carl Craig, Moodyman and Theo Parrish. I think Moods and Grooves and Theorem. They're the ones getting attention for moving stuff forward. I like the Detroit sound you helped to pioneer. But I think somewhere it got stuck in a groove. And the rest of Detroit kept moving on. I still like what you're doing, and I think lots of Europe like it too. I just don't think that your lack of invitation is a personal thing: it's more that your sound no longer represents present day Detroit. I'm keen to hear how you (very very lucky) people at DEMF sum up the Detroit sound circa 2000. Cheers Rol
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. Speedy J? Ben Sims? (not sure about Ben...)
